Huckabee: Kennedy Was Fighting Cancer To Deny Cancer Patients Ability To Fight The Disease
Huckabee: Kennedy Was Fighting Cancer To Deny Cancer Patients Ability To Fight The Disease
Today, in an attempt to criticize Democrats for using Ted Kennedy’s legacy to pass health care reform, Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AK) argued during a radio segment on ABC Radio Networks that Kennedy would have died sooner under health care reform:
It was President Obama himself who suggested that seniors who don’t have as long to live might want to just consider taking a pain pill instead of getting an expensive operation to cure them. Yet when Sen. Kennedy was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer at 77, did he give up on life and go home to take pain pills and die? Of course not. He freely did what most of us would do. He choose an expensive operation and painful follow up treatments. He saw his work as vitally important and so he fought for every minute he could stay on this earth doing it. He would be a very fortunate man if his heroic last few months were what future generations remember him most for.”
Listen:
Piggy-backing off of Sarah Palin’s claim that health care reform would establish “death panels,” Republicans have launched a coordinated campaign to scare seniors. This week, the effort found Republicans in the rather awkward stance of defending Medicare while simultaneously arguing that the program is “a very good example of what we should not have happen with all of our health care.” Huckabee’s contention is even more baffling. Following Huckabee’s argument to its logical conclusion would suggest that Kennedy fought cancer in order to strip other older Americans of the ability to vigorously fight the disease.
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Jesus, God, & the Bible will brand Huckabee a hateful, lying anti-Christian. Hope he’s happy with that.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:24 pmHuckabee thinks he can wave the flag and thump his Bible to the presidency. God save us from this fool.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:27 pmThere is no low to which a fascist Republican will not stoop.
We must remove them from every elected position, at every level of government.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:28 pmThat was a particularly sick thing to say, even from a smarmy piece of sh!t like Huckabee.
President Obama’s mother died of cancer. She spent her last months fighting with her insurance company, trying to get them to pay for her treatments.
He wants ALL Americans to have the kind of medical care he and Kennedy and everyone in Congress have access to. The kind of care his mother was denied.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:32 pmHey, Phuckabee, those squirrels you’ve been gnawing on have alot of mercury in them…
…it seems to have affected you small brain…
…Obama never said that…therefore you are lying…
…you know what happens to liars don’t you?
…they die like everyone else and turn to dust…
…sorry, but there is no heaven or hell…
…but in your case maybe hell would be just fine.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:32 pmStay classy, Huckabee! America needs to be reminded at every turn that the GOP fought tooth and nail AGAINST Medicare–that they are “protecting seniors” is a laugh riot.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:33 pmMy statement is the truth.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:33 pmEven Huckabee’s god will have a hard time with this one.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:34 pmEver find yourself praying there’s a hell?
August 28th, 2009 at 6:35 pmWhat difference does it make to Huckleberry, he still has lots of friends in Israel.
I wonder what will happen to all these idiot protesters when they see their premiums rise again and again. I also wonder what they will say when their decuctables rise along with all their co-pays. I wonder what they will say when they incur a medical problem only to find out that have been denied coverage because they had a wart 20 years earlier and didn’t disclose it. Republicans, the dregs of society.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:36 pmThe way fear works is not rational.
But it does work.
In a corporately mediated society and culture, fear will always trump reason because the corpoRat state supports and is supported by the status quo, which is preserved by fear of change (and everything else).
August 28th, 2009 at 6:36 pmFear works on the ignorant.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:38 pmI thought Huckabee was supposed to be a Christian man? I don’t understand these Repugs! Isn’t it our moral obligation to care for the poor and sick? What happened to empathy? What happened to decency? Sigh.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:40 pmHave you noticed that Huckabee is getting fat again after having liposuction and then telling a big fat lie about it.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:40 pmIt is imporssible for a christian, republican fox employee to get anywhere near telling the truth.
Huckabee misses the point that Kennedy had the option for all of his medical care and people without insurance have no options. DUH!
August 28th, 2009 at 6:40 pmHe choose an expensive operation and painful follow up treatments.
and he fought for the right of ALL to have that choice…
.
what, do they just not think?
definitely wired different…
August 28th, 2009 at 6:40 pmThe mind numbing asshattery continues.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:41 pmMr. Evil @ 10 they will all be begging the government to do something.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:42 pmThe Republicans really have no interest in a rational discussion about this or any important issue.
Why should they? They have to recognize that reality has a liberal bias, and they’re gonna lose in a rational discussion.
So they have to take the low road and gin up fear wherever they see an opportunity.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:43 pmIt was President Obama himself who suggested that seniors who don’t have as long to live might want to just consider taking a pain pill instead of getting an expensive operation to cure them.
Can someone provide me a link to where President Obama said this?
I tell ya, it doesn’t really sound like him.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:44 pmHow many of us can afford this?
August 28th, 2009 at 6:44 pmHuckabee is NOT a man of God. To be frank, he’s actually Satanic in trying to fight real health care reform tooth-and-nail.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:45 pmdid anyone notice, and was perturbed by, the way mcLIAR exited his car,
and approached the building, like he was going to a party?
… much too happy…
all that “next” talk went to his head.
spit.
.
(as annie ? would say)
August 28th, 2009 at 6:46 pmand just what have you ever done that would even come close to anything teddy ever did????
though so nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you are a low life bible thumping idiot
August 28th, 2009 at 6:47 pmBut — but — but — Daryll said that Jesus told him that Huckabee would be the next president. He even took to calling him “President-elect Huckabee“. Whatever happened with all that?
August 28th, 2009 at 6:49 pmWait, rich people would still be able to buy expensive treatments. Why do they assume that if regular folks get something, the rich people won’t be able to have it any more? And why do they act like most Americans fall in the category of “the rich people” when by definition, we do not?
Basically he’s advocating that the few should continue to have gold-plated health care options at the expense of the many. Even if helping the rest of us did take away their fancy treatments – which it wouldn’t – this is flat-out immoral.
I don’t recall Jesus healing only the wealthy… as a matter of fact, he was pretty explicitly against them.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:49 pmIts hard to watch! It seems everyone who comes into contact with Rupert Murdoch turns into a liar.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:52 pmMore cons are flooding the airwaves accusing dems of “using” the Sen. Kennedy’s death to pass reform. Did you know congress isn’t even back in session and President Obama is on vacation? Hmmm.. how could that be? Apparently the stupidity of the right-wing will end only when their party is rightfully thrown in a black hole, never to be seen or heard from again.
Kennedy said the cause of his life was health care. Exploit much?
Kennedy wrote the bill that came out his committee and covers 97% of Americans and includes the public option. Exploit much?
Hatch and McCain voted against the Kennedy bill. Bipartisan much? What are the “right” concessions, Senator McCain? Kennedy had signaled no intention to drop the public option. The bill was sold as is.
I don’t have to say republicans are exploiting the senator’s death, I can see them with my own eyes getting right back to dirty games before the liberal lion is even buried. Shameful.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:52 pmJeezuzChrist!!!
August 28th, 2009 at 6:54 pmHuckleberry is supposed to be a christian man – a humble man — at least that was how his campaign portrayed him — and we see him more truly as a bitter, mean-spirited, un-christian, self-serving partisan hack just like the rest of the repugs.
How dare they set up these false scenarios as if they had any clue about anything — he is politicizing Kennedy’s death for his own selfish purposes — and shows himself to be a small, angry and frustrated prick.
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What a miserably disgusting son of a cheney……and this guy calls himself a “christian”?? Im not a “christian” Mike…so here’s hoping the next bus that drives by you winds up with you wrapped around the axle.
August 28th, 2009 at 6:54 pmAll this from someone who was a pastor and a denominational leader?! Huckabee is a liar. There’s a scripture in the Bible that says “He who works deceit shall not dwell within my house, He who tells lies shall not continue in my presence.” Psalm 101:7.
They’re so quick to judge and tell someone how they should live according to the Bible!? Does Huckabee practice what he preaches?! Hell no!
August 28th, 2009 at 6:58 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
So, cellar dweller, can YOU point me to a link that shows President Obama making the statement that Huckabee attributes to him?
Thanks.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:01 pmcellardwellinliberal says:
Obama isn’t failing for your benefit. He simply wants to let one branch of government be. Your elation is up for grabs – remember the bill Kennedy helped write that covers 97% of Americans and costs in a ten-year period just one year of funding the DoD?
Well, all the president needs to do is endorse that bill and you’re toast.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:03 pmMike Huckabee is the Rube’s Rube.
A backwoods yokeldolt, unfit to dig ditches.
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ralph, I think I may remember something. Someone will correct me if I am wrong.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:03 pmAt a town hall, Obama said that unnecessary and expensive treatments were often employed by providers because the insurance would pay more for them than for a prescription drug. It was in the context of facilities and doctors taking advantage of the way insurance manipulates medical care.
cellardweller – be glad you’re not in the same room as me.
seriously.
gfy, with a sharp, rusty implement.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:04 pmtee hee – the righty closet queen casts aspersions.
larry craig much, cellardweller??
(is it watchpoop, back from banishment, and jacked on crank?)
August 28th, 2009 at 7:06 pmcellardwellinliberal says:
Care to give us the rundown of your rap-sheet? Skeletons in the closet?
August 28th, 2009 at 7:06 pmHuckleberry twists words to suit his lies.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:07 pmObama would never, has never, will never say that seniors should take a pill instead of surgery.
Christian liars would make their Jesus ashamed of them – he would drive them from the temple along with the moneychangers.
Shuckabee at it again when will he and Mitchy boy finally come out of the closet?
August 28th, 2009 at 7:08 pmWasn’t the troll mouthing off earlier about “expanding your mind”? Sounds like the little troll has been “expanding his mind” in porn-rich Utah. Yuck.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:09 pmIgnore and flag that troll. It isn’t making any points worth responding to, but is extensively violating the TP ToS.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:09 pmHey cellar @33 – I’ll be that! I’ve got the gay all day! I love the gay! The Godess loves the gay!
August 28th, 2009 at 7:09 pmSince cellar dweller is so cued into hatred, here’s something for him to chew on:
CNN has picked up our story from yesterday on Steven Anderson, the Arizona pastor who prayed for Barack Obama’s death the day before one of his parishioners, who attended the sermon, brought an AR-15 rifle to an Obama event.
Okay, now let’s launch into a chorus of “And they’ll know we are Christians by our love… by our love… yes, they’ll know we are Christians by our love…”
August 28th, 2009 at 7:10 pm(sigh) okay, ElBruce. You’re right.
I was just hopin’ to get in a few swings before Happy Hour.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:11 pmWhat kind of conservative closet-case hangs out in “liberal” chat rooms on a Friday evening telling the participants how “gay” and “angry” they are–all the while spewing liberal amounts of homophobic hate?
August 28th, 2009 at 7:13 pmOkay, now let’s launch into a chorus of “And they’ll know we are Christians by our love… by our love… yes, they’ll know we are Christians by our love…”
Ralph, you bet, and these faux Christians will feed a hungry person on condition they can plaster his face in the paper as a fundrai$ing ploy.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:15 pmHuckabee, you sir are a liar, and a non-Christian as far as I can tell (and a lot of other people seem to feel the same as I do).
August 28th, 2009 at 7:16 pmWhat a hick. But I all ready knew he was.
Teabaggers:
‘WHAT, WHA, WHAT! HOW LONG IS THE VIEWING GOING TO GO ON!
THIS CAN’T BE…BUT, BUT, ALL THOSE PEOPLE…TOO MANY PEOPLE…THIS IS TOO@…PEOPLE DON’T UNDERSTAND…
WHERE ARE MY TEABAGGERS! THIS IS MORE THAN RONNIE!”
What a lying SOB! he can’t stand the attention that our beloved Senator is getting. These racist, self-centered, scums are the lowest of what the US stands for.
Another fine example of a viable repug contender.
Oh yeah trolls, when one of your freaks get this much attention then we can talk about Liberals and Greatness. Get a viable Legacy for once.
hucky, you can used your nutty ronnie raygun as an example of healthcare.
Leave Senator Kenndey’s alone, bonehead.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:17 pmcellardwellinliberal reported for abuse. He doesn’t deserve the time of day from normal human beings.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:18 pmMr. Huckleberry needs to just go away…preferably under a rock someplace and just stay there! Forever.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:20 pmThese parasites and piles of right wing dung need to STFU. Freedom of speech is one thing and I’ll defend their right to have it with my last breath, but for these clowns to constantly berate folks everywhere needs to be tempered a bit. Huckleberry needs to spend some time back in Arkansas digging some roots for a while to get back in touch with realty instead of spending every last minute of his existence getting closer and closer to be hannity’s clone!
This guy is an idiot…
August 28th, 2009 at 7:20 pmIt’s kinda sad that cellardwellinliberal thinks that he can think.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:20 pmcellardwellinliberal said,
Three references to homosexuality in only two posts. I think this particular wingnut is a closet case.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:21 pmcellardwellinliberal reported and not long for this site…bye, bye hatespewer
August 28th, 2009 at 7:26 pmAbove the Clouds says:
What kind of conservative closet-case hangs out in “liberal” chat rooms on a Friday evening telling the participants how “gay” and “angry” they are–all the while spewing liberal amounts of homophobic hate?
He has plenty of time, no customers at the “Glory hole”
August 28th, 2009 at 7:28 pmGame of Life – Yes indeed!
Huckabee, McCain, Cheney, Bush, Palin, Limbaugh and any other Rethug could never hold a candle to Senator Ted Kennedy! All of their careers combined would never garner the amount of respect as the late great LION of the Senate – Ted Kennedy!
August 28th, 2009 at 7:32 pm“Yet when Sen. Kennedy was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer at 77, did he give up on life and go home to take pain pills and die? Of course not. He freely did what most of us would do. He choose an expensive operation and painful follow up treatments.”
GOP party sinks lower and lower everyday. This is the lowest from Huckabuck. Memo to Rev. Huck: If you can’t say anything intelligent, don’t say anything at all.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:32 pmhuckybilly:
The last paragraph of your jindal-reading-bs book report is way out of whack. The healthcare reform bill includes healthcare as good as your lying-mumble ass gets or Sen. Kenndey’s had received.
What kind of idiot are you?
August 28th, 2009 at 7:32 pmIsn’t Huckabee a minister? Isn’t there a comandment or some section in the bible that says that we should not lie? Well I think Huckabee should go back and read the bible again and again and again.
If he is such a good Christian, then he would not be saying such lies and using Ted Kennedy’s death to push it.
Republicans have no shame or conscience.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:33 pmHuckabee: Kennedy was fighting cancer to deny cancer patients the ability to fight cancer.
Is this man the idiot he pretends to be? What a stupid, convoluted, dishonest piece of crap this Huckabee vomit is.
I still find it astounding that this lying, hateful, dishonest man, who lies about others, still thinks himself to be a Christian. He is not. He is a lying, bigoted, hateful man, just the opposite of a true Christian. Huckabee, Jesus is watching & thinks you are a deceitful anti-Christian.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:36 pmSinking to new lows daily. I grieve for the reputation of the American people.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:37 pmWhat an ugly, lying, shrewish, bitter little man.
Definitely *spit*.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:37 pmI thank huck. I use his words with the religious people here in okla. They didn’t believe it when I told them he was saying such things. Proof was easy and they get quiet.
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it,a seems like just all the republicans are race bateing commies it makes me sick what greed does to sick minded people.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:42 pmSlappyBastinado, you are a sick and disgusting person. I’m glad I don’t live next door to you.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:43 pm***
#68,
take your finger
out of your nose.
:)
August 28th, 2009 at 7:43 pmSlappyBastinado, I guess I should have said in the “cell” next to you.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:45 pmSlappyBastinado says: #69
Uh, hate to inform you, but, I live in Kentucky. Lexington as a matter of fact and here we are fairly progressive. Very clean city, well organized, not a lot of political problems and housing prices have pretty much stayed the same. Basically it’s a great place to live. Except they don’t have enough rock concerts here anymore like we used to.
If you want to talk about “hillbillies”, take a shot at Arkansas.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:47 pmHow unChristian of Huckabee to make such a statement.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:47 pm***
#70,
here’s his picture
in case you’re wondering if you do…
:|
August 28th, 2009 at 7:48 pmSlappy,
We aren’t going to kill you with a pill. We are going to put you in an education camp, and castrate you. Have nice dreams.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:50 pmCats r Flyfishn says: #75
Welcome back. Haven’t seen you here in a while.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:51 pmralph the wonder llama says:
Since cellar dweller is so cued into hatred, here’s something for him to chew on:
CNN has picked up our story from yesterday on Steven Anderson, the Arizona pastor who prayed for Barack Obama’s death the day before one of his parishioners, who attended the sermon, brought an AR-15 rifle to an Obama event.
Okay, now let’s launch into a chorus of “And they’ll know we are Christians by our love… by our love… yes, they’ll know we are Christians by our love…”
I kinda stop knocking my head to understand stupid. I thought I heard it all when the cstreet mob’s preacher praises hitler and other vile people.
But the logic of their asses stating that one is chosen into elected office therefore their fate is marked. If one of their freaks chose to rape and murder a child it would be ok because it was made to be. I’m paraphrasing of course.
I wasn’t even trying to understand that madness.
August 28th, 2009 at 7:52 pm***
#76,
he doesn’t dream
he vegetates.
:\
August 28th, 2009 at 7:52 pmSlappyBastard, should be “REALLY GLAD” he doesn’t live next to me and my family.
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Not to nitpick, but the Huckster wasn’t the governor of AlasKa, but of ARkansas.
I can understand the mistake though, because the governor of Alaska is the Huckster in lipstick. Both frighten me too. :(
August 28th, 2009 at 7:57 pmSlappy, why don’t you start by leaving, because nobody cares what you think.
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Slappy, I’m not a tough guy, I just have a large family that sticks together, and we don’t suffer fools.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:03 pmLets break this deception thru truth statement down.
Kennedy Was Fighting Cancer: [Thats true]
To Deny Cancer Patients: [Untrue]
A lie Ability To Fight The Disease [untrue]
Shame on you Huck, shame shame shame
August 28th, 2009 at 8:04 pmsee 1929-1994 republican obstuctionist minority party. If you even survive.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:06 pmbrothejr says:
Isn’t Huckabee a minister? Isn’t there a comandment or some section in the bible that says that we should not lie?
Yep, and Obama’s been pointing that out specifically.
I do hope that the result of this ongoing wingnut behavior will ultimately divorce responsible people of faith from the GOP forever. If they keep slandering the poor, exalting the rich, fomenting war and generally pushing an ethic of pure selfishness and greed, something eventually is going to have to snap. The trick is to make sure that they have an attractive alternative, and Obama seems to be doing that.
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SlappyBastinado says:
Hummmmm….delemma, dilemma when the government has a finite amount of money for health care, like American Indian health care, and when the money is almost gone for the year, and a Washington bureaucrat has to make the choice…
What’s the difference from when your insurance company’s profit margins didn’t look so hot last quarter? As a matter of fact, since government agencies have the capability of going into the red, whereas private companies don’t (if your balance sheet comes up short, you’re officially bankrupt and cease to exist) I’d say that concern over “rationing” would be significantly less of a problem under a public option than as the situation is now.
You lost me completely after that point, btw.
.
Game of Life says:
But the logic of their asses stating that one is chosen into elected office therefore their fate is marked.
I believe the original name of this belief would be “Divine Right,” and it is the central doctrine which the United States of America came into existence to oppose.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:06 pmslappy is just pissed because they hate losing and they have lost…well, everything.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:07 pmReally m Huckabee claims to follow Jesus’ teachings. The is in favor of private for profit insurance?
Cmin Huck, you are better than that, rise to the ocassion and be the one you supposedly admire
August 28th, 2009 at 8:07 pmHeal the people Huck, if you can.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:08 pm81 what do you do with them?
August 28th, 2009 at 8:08 pmSlappy @81 – Progressives would keep you and your kind safe. Only fake christian rightwingextremists like to kill and destroy.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:11 pmSlappy,
It has become apparent that the Republican Party has taken to fascism through the use of propaganda. The only way to cure the brainwashing caused through the use of propaganda will be to round up all the wingnuts and deprogram them in internment camps.
That means you slappy.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:12 pmFirst, slappy, the progs dont want complete power, so we must view then the current DC consensus objectives:
Half a millenia of the great game….
August 28th, 2009 at 8:13 pmSlappy, I think if you try and use that thing you have between your ears, you might be able to figure that out for yourself.
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Fred says:
slappy is just pissed because they hate losing and they have lost…well, everything.
Democrats are nothing if not forgiving. All they have to do to regain a seat at the table is quit being insane.
Some reasonable, centrist conservatism would be a very welcome phenomenon about now. Especially if they want to quit losing elections. But historically speaking, they’ve got to go through one more Presidential election cycle before they fully realize what they’ve done to themselves.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:14 pmSo you have had major surgery?
August 28th, 2009 at 8:15 pmWell slappy – Let’s hope that non-profit and those family members are there for you if you should ever get hit by a bus or an uninsured driver.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:16 pmYour great shape, my friend, is not infinite and you will require, eventually, to feed off the pool of capital others put in.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:17 pm***
#97,
congratulations.
you’re a self make basterd.
like your dad.
:)
August 28th, 2009 at 8:17 pmSure you do bastard. See why you can’t be believed?
Do you carry your fairy dust in a baggy or what?
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Slappy wakes up one morning feeling really ill. The next thing he knows, he is waking up in a hospital with a $50,000 medical bill. That’s when he will finally understand.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:19 pmThere is something wrong in this statement.
You use your family members in the industry.
Huh, So you use workers to pay for your health insurance, work you didnt actually do?
August 28th, 2009 at 8:19 pmHe will just “pay for it his self” god that’s really funny to think that someone would be that g damned stupid to even say such a thing.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:20 pmSlappyBastinado says:
X….that would be a NO!
August 28th, 2009 at 8:21 pmYou said your family, that you use, provides health insurance, then, I csn only surmise, the workers, pay for your insurance?
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What work do you actually do Slappy?
August 28th, 2009 at 8:22 pm***
sloppy,
personal aside here;
have you given up on
the dream of becoming a
right wing, conservative comedian?
:( :( :(
August 28th, 2009 at 8:23 pmA ditch digger burns more calories than slappy,
August 28th, 2009 at 8:24 pmHave you, slappy, ever labored in the hot sun for 12 hours doing manuaal labor?
August 28th, 2009 at 8:25 pmYay, so shall it be.
The poor reduce the greedy
To ashes
August 28th, 2009 at 8:26 pmSlappy,
Would you give up everything you own, all your savings and personal belongings to pay your health care? Should your family go homeless and starve because you need expensive medical care?
You need to get off the propaganda pony ride and come back to earth. What are you, furniture?
August 28th, 2009 at 8:26 pm***
#115,
his head makes a wonderful
hat rack.
:)
August 28th, 2009 at 8:28 pmSo shall you
August 28th, 2009 at 8:28 pmWho profit my sweat
Become me
slappy probably does have good health care. I hear they take pretty good care of you in the joint.
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Slappy is an ashat, it’s that simple.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:30 pmNot as exquisite as Debs, but you get the point.
And Huckleberry doesn’t understand much of his bible, being a hate-monger liar that he is
tony and lido
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Churchhill spoke for empire, not the common man
August 28th, 2009 at 8:31 pmto kwsventures, we’ll really never know if you ever had an original thought. There seems to be no evidence to show that you have.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:31 pmBut Churchill lived in communities that had firefighters and teachers and, etc. ect. ect. oh, and nationized health care, did I forget to mention that?
August 28th, 2009 at 8:33 pmkwsventures, comon and tell us about your thriving business that oddly doesn’t seem to exist anywhere except in the smooth place between your ears.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:34 pm“The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.”
– Winston Churchill
This from an imperial empiricist, What America fought against for its independence.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:34 pmIn his 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard, Brzezinski outlined a strategy for America in the world. He wrote, “For America, the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia. For half a millennium, world affairs were dominated by Eurasian powers and peoples who fought with one another for regional domination and reached out for global power.” Further, “how America ‘manages’ Eurasia is critical. Eurasia is the globe’s largest continent and is geopolitically axial. A power that dominates Eurasia would control two of the world’s three most advanced and economically productive regions. A mere glance at the map also suggests that control over Eurasia would almost automatically entail African subordination.”[21] Brzezinski explained that, “the pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public’s sense of domestic well-being. The economic self-denial (that is, defense spending) and the human sacrifice (casualties even among professional soldiers) required in the effort are uncongenial to democratic instincts. Democracy is inimical to imperial mobilization.”[22] Brzezinski also outlines Russia and China, in cooperation with Iran and possibly Pakistan, as the most significant coalition that could challenge US hegemony.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:37 pmEmpires are over.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:38 pm***
#199,
“All I know for sure, is nobody gets out of life alive.”
*
that’s all you know for sure?
:)
August 28th, 2009 at 8:38 pmWe have entered a new paradigm, the five thousand years of war and empire are over, the great game is over.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:40 pmdasm says:
Huckabee: Kennedy was fighting cancer to deny cancer patients the ability to fight cancer.
Is this man the idiot he pretends to be? What a stupid, convoluted, dishonest piece of crap this Huckabee vomit is.
Huckabee is the Savanarola of the US. His politics is mixed with a big dose of religion and patriotism. The man intends to run for President in 2012 with the following campaign platform: cut spending and regulations, restore Christianity as the de facto religion and accuse everyone who opposes him as an unpatriotic heretic. We know what happened to Savanrola and Huckabee should take care that something similar does not happen to him.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:41 pmHuckabee is catapulting inaccurate propaganda, as so many Republicans do.
He is suggesting that under “health care reform”, people who already have insurance won’t have it. Or they’ll have something completely different against their will.
Senator Kennedy might not be the best example to use. Not only was he a Senator (and it’s doubtful that a Senator’s health care will ever be substandard), but he was rich. Which means that even if he had NO INSURANCE AT ALL, he would no doubt be able to pay for expensive operations and follow-up treatments out of his own pocket.
Now, if Huckabee was suggesting something along the line of “if Ted Kennedy wasn’t a Senator, wasn’t rich, and was just an ordinary guy, he would have died sooner under health care reform,” that’s another matter.
If Ted Kennedy was just an ordinary guy, he may or may not have been able to get an expensive operation such as he had, depending on what kind of insurance he had. Many companies would have declined to pay for an operation such as that with such a small degree of possible success. And if he had a Cadillac gold-plated policy that would have paid for it, he wouldn’t have had to give that up under “health care reform”. Remember a public option is just that — an OPTION. Given that set of circumstances, there’s no evidence (or even compelling anecdotal conjecture) that he would have died sooner. Of course, if he was REALLY an ordinary guy, he would have been laid off, exhausted his COBRA benefits, and not been insured at all. How is this “better”?
More lies, propaganda, and fearmongering from the right — with an element of tastelessness thrown in for good measure, exploiting the death of someone who spent his life fighting for the people the Republicans are trying to screw.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:50 pmSlappyBastinado says:
Don’t have and “insurance company” so its a “non starter”. I am lucky to be in great shape and I use family members in the industry and a non profit should I need it AND I PAY FOR IT MYSELF!
This is all standard Internet wingnut lies. You’re on Medicare and we all know it.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:55 pmHuckabee, Beck, Rush, Hannity – what pigs?
Republicans, GOP, conservatives – unfit at any speed.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:02 pmXisithrus says:
I am lucky to be in great shape and I use family members in the industry and a non profit should I need it AND I PAY FOR IT MYSELF!
There is something wrong in this statement.
You use your family members in the industry.
There is a good possibility that slappy does have family in the health care industry. There will definitely be people losing jobs in the this
August 28th, 2009 at 9:05 pmOops, wasn’t done.
There is a good possibility that slappy does have family in the health care industry. There will definitely be people losing jobs in this industry has it stands now. However, these people should be able to find something in the new structure. Surely people will suffer. Unfortunately for them, there were many people made to suffer with the current system.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:06 pmI have expensive group coverage. I had to take my daughter to the hospital lab because the doctors office couldn’t find a vein. It was routine blood work to make sure medication wasn’t harmful. 5 minutes, 3 tubes of blood, routine tests. $750. Fortunately I have a PPO and get reduced rates but I still had to pay $70. A family that has to use an emergency room one time for health care will be filing bankruptcy. I hope that family is Slappy’s.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:07 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Shayne, hey, will take care of Slappys family, it just him who should get thrown in the street.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:11 pmDo you Paulbots call leaching off a non profit charity taking personal responsibility?
August 28th, 2009 at 9:15 pmkwsventures says:
Snappy sayings do not justify the fiscal arguments when weighing life and death issues for people who have no medical care.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:19 pm… I use family members in the industry and a non profit should I need it AND I PAY FOR IT MYSELF!
hate to do this, but can’t resist the urge… to point out
what a mooch this one is…
and to give a clue that the family is surely annoyed at the mooch…
August 28th, 2009 at 9:21 pmXisithrus says:
Empires are over.
Well, ours is in any case.
We’ve spent a half a century pretending we weren’t an empire, even though the countries under our subjugation knew better. How the USA manages the dismantling of its geopolitical empire in the next century will say a lot about how we get by after that. In the best case we end up as Britain; not too shabby. A worse case is Russia, which is still in disarray.
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pags2 says:
We know what happened to Savanrola and Huckabee should take care that something similar does not happen to him.
I had no idea, but thanks for the lesson – it’s an apt comparison.
I think a Huckabee run in 2012 will do a great deal to peel honest Christians of faith away from the hypocritical GOP.
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Shayne says:
I had to take my daughter to the hospital lab because the doctors office couldn’t find a vein. It was routine blood work to make sure medication wasn’t harmful. 5 minutes, 3 tubes of blood, routine tests. $750. Fortunately I have a PPO and get reduced rates but I still had to pay $70. A family that has to use an emergency room one time for health care will be filing bankruptcy.
The reason that hospitals hike charges for simple tests to obscene rates are, 1) they have to cover free emergency care for the uninsured, so they pass the costs along to you, and 2) cost schedules with insurance companies are protected by non-disclosure agreements, so it’s impossible for hospitals, other insurers and/or consumers to shop for the best rate. Of course, both of these are solved immediately by public-option or single-payer health insurance reform.
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kwsventures says:
We’ve discussed this before. If you’re just going to post quotes from other people, don’t bother. Either you have a point to make, or you don’t. If I want to find a page full of quotes that support conservative philosophy, I’ll Google it myself. I won’t dignify your (non-)approach by inserting contrary quotes from other respected sources.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:21 pm***
#139,
a) Voltaire
b) George Bernard Shaw
c) Thomas Jefferson
d) Thomas Sowell
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which one does not belong?
:)
August 28th, 2009 at 9:44 pmkwsventure, I was 16 years old when I realized cliches wouldn’t solve all my problems. But then I wasn’t as stupid as you.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:45 pmElBruce, these idiots who think they’ve saved enough money to pay for medical care at a hospital have no idea.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:46 pmkws is a puppykiller.
and he’s secretly ashamed of himself for it
or he wouldn’t be here at all.
sleep well kws.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:50 pmooh – slap-a-dappa-dippy was here too??
he’s SO funny.
i heard he’s Dice Clay’s dumber step-brother,
so that explains his cutting-edge sense of humor.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:50 pmWell no wonder he’s here, he’s probably Chuckleberry’s son.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:52 pmkws is just a sik greedhead phuk.
he’s got all the moral sensibility of a babboon.
AND all the intellectual subtlety.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:57 pmJust heard Ron Wyden make some comments on my local news KPOJ am radio in Portland OR.
He states in so many words he supports his Healthy American Act and the reform in the bills now are too costly…. could run 1 trillion.
Since Wyden, my senator/staff, is not answering his phone, but has asked the caller to leave a message for the past 2 months, I will ask the question here:
Sen Wyden
1. why are you putting a price tag on health care when the illegal invasion on Iraq had no, still has no price tag?
2. Are you using your HAA idea, which we all know is not going to be in the bill as an excuse to vote against a public option… an excuse to vote for your contributors that paid you so handsomely?
3. Are you aware of the KPOJ am radio poll that 95% voted to find another dem to run against you in the ‘10 primary? This 95% rating is all about your negative view on public option.
4. Is there any truth to this story: Sen. Lindsey Graham reveals backroom deal making with Sen. Ron Wyden on the public option
August 28th, 2009 at 10:03 pm***
answer: d
:)
thanks for playing.
:)
August 28th, 2009 at 10:05 pmI posted this a month ago and am wondering if there are any updates anyone knows about.
These 14 names are very worrisome.
from: billpressshow.com
Health Care: The Public Plan Option
These Democratic Senators have NOT agreed to support it:
1. Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)
2. Senator Tom Carper (D-DE)
3. Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
4. Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR)
5. Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL)
6. Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE)
7. Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
8. Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND)
9. Senator Max Baucus (D-MT)
10. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
11. Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)
12. Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR)
13. Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT)
14. Senator Mark Warner (D-VA)
These names are reported by The Hill here and here
Update: Senator Kay Hagan (D-NC) says she supports a public option.
Update: Senator Jeff Binghaman (D-NM) says he supports a public option.
You can also contact the White House and voice your opinion
August 28th, 2009 at 10:14 pmComments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414
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had enough says:
Just heard Ron Wyden make some comments on my local news KPOJ am radio in Portland OR.
He used to have a pretty good reputation too. In fact, it was pretty much his endorsement that got Merkley in, especially with Smith running on an “I get along with Wyden” platform, ha ha. The junior Senatorship was pretty much his to hand out at will.
I think the problem is, some Democrats have the skill set and mind set to be a great minority-party Senator. Wyden was pretty good at it – get everything you can out of Republicans when Republicans have all the power. Suck them into being “bipartisan” so you can get more concessions from an otherwise belligerent majority. Draw them towards the middle by staking out the middle. Whatever.
But it takes a completely different skill set and mind set to be a majority Senator. We need people who realize that they have the power we have given them, and who are willing to fulfill the mandate for which we have placed them in office. Don’t capitulate to a paper tiger.
Generally speaking, newer legislators are better at this. Seniority breeds complacency – or at least, obsolecense.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:21 pmAs a farm boy with a father like you I labored for days, months mmmmmm……..about 18 YEARS in the sun with out pay
Pay? you learned a great skill.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:28 pm:)
August 28th, 2009 at 10:34 pmget the picture? You didnt work for ‘free.’
August 28th, 2009 at 10:35 pmWhat kills me about this, is that any time a person who purchases health insurance uses more dollars than they contributed to cover their health care costs, someone else is paying for it. This self-righteousness about who runs their gambling pool is bizarre. The fact that they gamble on private insurers, does not mean that the health care costs of people being treated for cancer are actually being paid by their premiums or that it’s they’re the house. It’s a pool. Period. Idiots.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:36 pmWe in Oregon looked the other way when Wyden voted to confirm Roberts and then Alito in ‘05 as he was very popular and well liked. But the fact he may drop the ball on a public health care option is unconscionable and will not fly.
He will be voted out!
August 28th, 2009 at 10:48 pmAmerica: the Axis of Stupid.
God, I’m so ashamed.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:06 pmA ‘public option’ is already in place, with regard to emergency room visits; the real question is how well a new ‘level playing field’ for all available health care, might keep pace in existing medical accounting systems, by including many additional health care visits, and likely including more essential, preventative care treatments?
August 28th, 2009 at 11:37 pmIs there any thing these people from the Christian right won`t attack and DEFILE?
August 28th, 2009 at 11:40 pmI will not only not vote for Wyden if he drops the ball, I will campaign for any Democrat who wants to run against them, and thinks the public option should be passed.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:08 amhad enough says:
Just heard Ron Wyden make some comments on my local news KPOJ am radio in Portland OR.
He states in so many words he supports his Healthy American Act and the reform in the bills now are too costly…. could run 1 trillion…..
I just cannot fathom these Blue Dogs. In Chicago the Democrats are very conservative. But that conservatism does not extend to social issues. It is perfectly acceptable for a Chicago Dem to liberal on most social issues while still being conservative about other issues such as budgets, crime, etc. These views can live in peaceful co-existence because all of these opinions are shared by most of the middle class here. So my question is why can’t the Blue Dogs do the same without all these gyrations?
August 29th, 2009 at 12:12 amMen that cannot honor the honor of another man, deserve no honor.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:44 amThat’s what cheney and rumsfeld and wolfowitz say too but when you see them in person you know that people with no consience lie as easily as they breath. That would be you.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:18 amhad enough says:
I posted this a month ago and am wondering if there are any updates anyone knows about.
Thank you so much! I just sent this to Wyden:
He probably won’t lay eyes on it personally, but it’d be awesome if he did.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:09 amI JUST went through this same b/s with two wingnut police officers at work. Texas doesn’t have the option to secede any more. They gave it up in order to get back in the union after the Civil War. We USED to have that option, but the only thing us Texans can actually do now is…divide our state into four MORE states where we would have ten senators (same amount of congress critters though). Here’s the pertinent page from the Texas State Historical Association…
August 29th, 2009 at 2:16 amScroll down and begin reading at the 5th paragraph.
my bad… I posted at the wrong thread *slaps self*
August 29th, 2009 at 2:18 amXisithrus says:
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Have you, slappy, ever labored in the hot sun for 12 hours doing manuaal labor?
Have you?? i doubt it very much
August 29th, 2009 at 3:13 ampags2 says:
I just cannot fathom these Blue Dogs. In Chicago the Democrats are very conservative. But that conservatism does not extend to social issues. It is perfectly acceptable for a Chicago Dem to liberal on most social issues while still being conservative about other issues such as budgets, crime, etc
The thing is, Wyden’s no Blue Dog! He was supposed to be very center-left, until just now. Now out of nowhere, he’s betraying his entire state and career for apparently no reason! It’s like they have mind control lasers in D.C. or something.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:43 amThank God this talk show radio host didn’t become president. Just what does the Gee-Oh-Pee in the well party have to offer this country but hate and fear.
August 29th, 2009 at 9:00 amIf you think Obama is fighting to give you the same healthcare he enjoys, think again. It will never happen. Just the same for Social Security. He will enjoy a secure retirement. Congress and all it’s members will make sure of that. You and I, not so fortunate. Whether you are a Democrat or a Republican, do your research. Make sure you understand what you are being asked to accept. Ask questions. Don’t just assume anything becaused you will be very unhappy when it comes to be. Make your voice heard.
August 29th, 2009 at 10:25 amHere is the problem with taking pain pills. If you know anyone who is in their 80’s, they can’t take pain pills because the pills make them dizzy. When an older person, like my Mother, gets dizzy they can fall. Then they take a chance of breaking a bone, they end up in the hospital where they can catch pneumonia and die. Again, do your research.
August 29th, 2009 at 10:31 amTo paraphrase H.L.Mencken – The trouble with Christianity are Christians.
August 29th, 2009 at 11:42 amOnce again these HYPOCRITTERS from the Reich are use fear mongering……..just like Hitler,but to them it`s the truth.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:09 pmOne thing is certain: the term “disgusting Republican” has become an oxymoron, thanks to, um, morons such as Huckabee. He’s just on among millions of others, of course, but still …
August 29th, 2009 at 12:40 pmWOW just…WOW…
The things spewed from a supposed preachers mouth…
very low class
August 29th, 2009 at 3:56 pmIllegal immigrants WILL BE entitled to free medical, dental and mental health coverage under the Obamicare health bill. There is No language in the bill excluding immigrants, therefore by DEFAULT they WILL be entitled to coverage so American families struggling to pay for their own health coverage will be required to subsidize free coverage to immigrants.
August 29th, 2009 at 4:25 pmI forget to say pass the above info to everyone yu know because you won’t find out these true facts from the media, you know the guys that get “tingles up their leg” (or did he say he tinkles down his leg) when Obama appears.
August 29th, 2009 at 4:30 pmThe fact that the reichers are using the day of Kennedy’s funeral to spew such garbage pretty much sums up their lack of decency
August 29th, 2009 at 8:29 pmThe Angry Republican says:
The things spewed from a supposed preachers mouth…
Yeah, his whole “I’m a reverend!” thing played pretty well during the last primary, but he’s used it all up by now. It’s obvious to everybody by now that he has no moral standing whatsoever. I don’t know what he thinks he’s going to do in 2012.
As a matter of fact, it occurs to me that he doesn’t even have a shot in 2012, and neither does Palin. Only twice in the last 50 years has either party nominated someone who wasn’t currently the President, Veep, Governor or Senator: Nixon in ‘68 and Mondale in ‘84. In each of those cases, the nominee had been Veep four years previously.
If you don’t currently have an elected official job (below Veep), you have zero chance of winning any nomination.
Huckabee isn’t even worth talking about. He’s political history. He’s basically the next Buchanan.
August 30th, 2009 at 3:27 amEl Bruce,
August 30th, 2009 at 3:51 amI hope you’re right about Palin and Huckabeee not having a chance in 2012. But even if either of them became the Republican nominee, I think that would turn just more independents as well as even some intelligent GOPers (the few that remain left) away from the party.
Now for one little fact correction: Nixon was Vice-President under Ike until January 1961–so eight years–not 4– had passed before he became his party’s nominee (again). Democrat JF Kennedy was President from 1961 to Nov. 1963, followed by LB Johnson, with Hubert Humphrey as VP, until January 1969.
Lora says:
Now for one little fact correction…
Thanks for the research. Nixon was an outlier, Mondale less so. But both of them had been Veep before coming back later to take their parties’ nomination. Neither Palin, Huckabee nor Romney even compare, resume-wise. The fact remains: at present, none of the class-of-2008 GOP candidates have a chance of taking the nomination in 2012.
You have to be a current Prez, Veep, Governor or Senator even to have a shot.
Bobby Jindal? Yeah, I’d like to see them try that one: Just because he’s brown and skinny doesn’t make him a match against Obama. Previous GOP Veeps, let’s see – Cheney? HA HA HAA, BRING IT! Dan Quayle? Give me a break. The fact is, they’ve got nothing. As thin as the 2008 GOP Primary was, 2012 is going to be considerably thinner.
August 30th, 2009 at 6:21 ami aint you says:
Have you, slappy, ever labored in the hot sun for 12 hours doing manuaal labor?
Have you?? i doubt it very much
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I have. Have YOU ever had an original thought or had a single funtional braincell? I doubt it VERY seriously. You do KNOW you are a moron dont you?
August 30th, 2009 at 7:49 amBaloney says:
YOU conjecture and speculation does not qualify as FACTS. You are stupid and brainwashed. Your delusions do not BECOME facts because you post them on a website. As for Tweety yeah he said that. He also said Bush shined with a kind of sunny nobility and only the far left loons didnt like him also that he was like Atticus Finch. So he has his man crushes but they are for Republicans more often than Democrats. Then again I wouldnt expect a brainwashed loser like you to know that or really anything else. Just keep regurgitating what Rush tells you to think. We both know you are too stupid to do anything else.
August 30th, 2009 at 7:57 am“Hey Huck, which plan of the public option did you select for your government supplied insurance?”
August 30th, 2009 at 10:01 amElBruce says:
Huckabee isn’t even worth talking about. He’s political history. He’s basically the next Buchanan.
I wouldn’t count him out. Anything can happen between now and 2012. If the economy slides and the jobless rate go down, then Huckabee could win by default since a lot people will not vote. He represents the base of the Republicans which is a mix of social issues and fiscal conservatism. Huckabee will go into primaries talking about both issues but will move to the center after he is nominated. Romney has problems because he is a Mormon but Huckabee is a Christian fundamentalist which works in his favor. Then he will talk in vague terms about both so as not to commit himself to any specific plans. But make no mistake, he is all about the social issues, abortion and gay rights. If he were elected we will be fighting these issues for another 8 years. The last Republican got “Jesus” and made decisions based on his gut which is another way of saying Christian fundamentalism mixed with flag waving. And that turned out bad.
August 30th, 2009 at 11:59 amOops I meant jobless rates go up.
August 30th, 2009 at 12:14 pmWhat a horses butt!!! And this man claims to be a man of God!! Sen. Kennedy, May he rest in peace did the only things he could do to fight this disease….he had the surgery, he had the follow-up treatments….nobody would ever not do any or all of this for that chance to live just one more day!!!! Of course it is expensive, and had he lived the Senator would have fought for every American to have the same access to health care that he had!!!! Huckabee…go back to the farm!!!
August 30th, 2009 at 9:17 pmNope you’re wrong on who the Republicans are going to nominate…
It is already being talked about in State Republican committees.
Amazingly the split nomination is divided almost perfectly North State Committee members vrs. Southern committee members…
Two Republican candidates with base support:
Newt Gingrich (North) (Well Georgia repugs vote for him)
Joe Scarborough (South)
hat in ring loosers who will try to get nomination:
Sarah Palin
MIchelle Bachmann
Rick Perry
Mark Sanford
Winner of Republican nomination:
The back door deal is already set that if Newt wins Joe will support him and garner the VP nomination.
Newt has agreed and will support Scarborough to gain the VP nomination…
Newt will win Scarborough will be nominated his VP.
See all the fun info you get lurking in the Republican party :P It’s time for me to go Democrat I guess… I cannot handle the fanatical religious right that has usurped the party.
OH and just my guess on the outcome of this election…
Barring any malfeasance and voter fraud…I predict they only win Arizona…
This will be the end of the Republican party.
August 30th, 2009 at 11:06 pmEugeneDebs
Just remember this– it takes people like you to make people like me, and you are doing a fine job — keep up the good work and God Bless
Yours truly
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:31 pmI Aint You