Texas ‘tenthers’ plan pro-secession rally tomorrow.
Texas ‘tenthers’ plan pro-secession rally tomorrow.
An organization calling itself the “Texas Nationalist Movement” plans to march on the Texas capitol tomorrow to demand “Sovereignty or Secession”:
Texans will converge on Austin to deliver a petition to Restore America by Demanding our Sovereignty or we will be forced to call a vote for Secession.
This is straight out of the Declaration of Independence and our right to “alter or abolish” our government if it has, “after a long train of abuses” refused to protect the rights of the people.
At present, the Texas Nationalist Movement has a petition with 1 Million signatures directly calling for a vote of secession.
We are calling for an orderly process that will allow our federal government to fall back in line with the Constitution. We are reclaiming our states rights and our individual rights. [...]
We must stand up and be counted or we will find ourselves in another government. Either we restore America, we will live in a Marxist dictatorship, or we will secede and start over again.
The organization’s petition echoes language used by other “tenther” activists who believe that everything from Social Security to Medicare to the federal highway system violates the Tenth Amendment. According to the petition, Texas officials must either “immediately move for the restoration of the complete and unadulterated Sovereignty of Texas, explicitly adhering to the 10th Amendment wording of the U.S. Constitution,” or “move immediately for complete Secession from the United States of America.” In light of Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s recent expression of support for Texas secession, the petition could receive a friendly hearing.
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Austin will get a lot of good songs out of this.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:36 pmHere comes the second Civil War.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:37 pmI hope you have more guns than the entire United States, Texas. Oh yeah, also planes, bombs, aircraft carriers and nukes.
I predict the next Civil War will last less than 24 hours.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:37 pmThis is straight out of the Declaration of Independence and our right to “alter or abolish” our government if it has, “after a long train of abuses” refused to protect the rights of the people.
Y’all mean the right to have only White Presidents, right?
August 28th, 2009 at 8:40 pm“Texas ‘tenthers’ plan pro-secession rally tomorrow.”
In the basement of the Alamo.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:40 pmLet them secede. Then we’ll send in the army to put down the rebellion. And then I say we do to Texas what Rome did to Carthage.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:41 pmAs long as Texas takes over the debt run up by W, and military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. I am all for them seceding.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:42 pmCan you imagine Texas trying to defend itself against the entire US military? I mean, one cluster bomb dropped on those marching on the Texas capital, and it’s all over. Texas is an embarrassment to this country and needs a serious wingnut enema.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:45 pmThat means they lose all US government contracts right? Adios mother phu(kers.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:45 pmWe get Austin. The rest of you knuckleheads are free to go.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:45 pmI can’t imagine Texas defending itself from a hostile takeover by drug gangs. But at least we wouldn’t be paying to fight it for them any more.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:46 pm***
At present, the Texas Nationalist Movement has a petition with 1 Million signatures directly calling for a vote of secession.
. . . . . .
one million texans wearing
tin foil cowboy hats.
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crazy.
:|
August 28th, 2009 at 8:50 pmFunny part:
We are calling for an orderly process that will allow our federal government to fall back in line with the Constitution.
They’re too chickensh!t to actually back up anything they say. Remember, these are the teabaggers who wouldn’t throw their tea in the Delaware after a cop pointed out that doing so would violate environmental protection laws.
Wait, what?
Texas officials must either “immediately move for the restoration of the complete and unadulterated Sovereignty of Texas, explicitly adhering to the 10th Amendment wording of the U.S. Constitution,”
I was just looking at the 10th Amendment, and I didn’t see a damn thing in there about “the sovereignty of Texas” or any other state.
Bold added by me.
The Constitution delegates pleny of powers to the United States. In fact, most of it consists just of delegating buttloads of specific powers to the United States.
Especially this part:
The simple fact is, there has been no long train of abuses. The black guy has been in office less than 9 months. Even if you view having a black guy in charge of your government as “abuse,” it hardly constitutes a “long train” in any case.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:51 pmBye bye Texas, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:52 pmYeah, Texas, good luck with that. Let us know how it works out for you.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:52 pmOh please! I triple dog dare them to try and sucede! ROTFL! There would be a mass exodus OR the people with an ounce of sense will over throw them.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:53 pmMaybe they are just getting around to noticing the abuses of power by CheneyCo?
No?
I didn’t think so.
Can Homeland Security go down there and round up everyone who signed the petition? They obviously are anti-American terrorists!
August 28th, 2009 at 8:55 pmI’ve always said that revolutions are best started on a Saturday, when government offices are closed.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:56 pmB’bye!
Don’t forget to give back all the US property, however, including all the military bases.
I guess they get to keep the National Guard, but losing more than 100,000 active duty personnel is going to be a punch to the wallet. And, naturally, we’ll be taking all the equipment. All of it. No reason to leave any in the hands of a hostile government.
And all the defense contractors. My my, there must be a lot of those.
And it looks like Texas might have some folks to care for. Almost exactly one-third of a million people on welfare. Funny, isn’t it? They’re number three after New York and California.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:57 pmGood. Leave the nation as soon as possible and be sure you take Rick Perry and Kay Bailey Hutchinson and the rest of you fanatic dimwits with you. Be sure, however, to return all of the Federal dollars that have been poured into Texas in recent years.
August 28th, 2009 at 8:59 pmCut Texas loose.
They will love the war with Mexico when that country tries to annex them (again). Even if they remain independent they will need passports to enter our country. This will be good because we can regulate entrance to our country by redneck Texans.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:01 pmLet them secede, when Mexico invades Texas to reclaim land watch them scream and cry for help from the USA. :)
August 28th, 2009 at 9:02 pmWe’ll take all the NASA $$$ and facilities too.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:05 pmMaybe you can turn Johnson Space Center into a
Piggley Wiggley.
I suppose all these nit-wits will be showing up with their guns, to show the rest of us that they are tough guys and really mean it when they say they are going to leave.
God, you just can’t make this shit up if you tried. If you tried to pass this off as a movie script, you would get laughed out of town.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:05 pmThe government of the United States is not going to “let” Texas secede from the union over wingnut propaganda. Texas may like to talk tough, but when it comes down to it, they are totally dependant on the rest of us.
So let them try to secede, the US will send in a few units pulled out of Iraq, and Texas will surrender. Then we just arrest all the troublemakers that signed the petition, and put them in a nice education camp for their deprogramming.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:06 pmSo that would be 1 million people demanding
a) no Coast Guard, NOAA warnings or FEMA at the beginning of hurricane season
August 28th, 2009 at 9:07 pmb) no FBI, ICE, INS, DEA or DHS
c) no FAA or NTSB
d) no more DoD or any other federal jobs, and no more minimum wage
e) no more government handouts like food stamps. medicare, medicaid or social security benefits
f) no more assistance to veterans
g) no more anti-terrorism grants
h) no more highway funds
i) a new currency and all new trade agreements
j) no more FDIC
No more Secret Service protecting Bush. And just for kicks they get booted out of the NFL and Ms. America. Texans love them some football and beauty pageants.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:14 pmSo they’d like to start another civil war?
August 28th, 2009 at 9:14 pmConsidering their antics of late, I think I’d like to see them go. They’ll have to pay to use federal roads, their citizens would lose federal aid, their schools would lose federal dollars (they would like that, because they could teach creationism, and erase anything liberal from their text books).
So, keep it up, Texas, secede from the union and while you’re at it, take the Connecticut-blue-blood – turned-Texan, Dumbya with you.
Is this protest against the law? Is it Constitutional?
August 28th, 2009 at 9:15 pmBush without secret service protection equals a world without Bush.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:16 pmI can’t believe the mass hysteria that has taken hold in that state. Surely they can’t be serious? I mean, this does defy all logic and reason. What they are wanting is to start another war right here on U.S. soil and engage in the killing of thier fellow Americans… and for what? Because an African-American is President?
How did it come to this?
August 28th, 2009 at 9:17 pmHow do I donate to the secession efforts? Rove, Bush, and DeLay can then be labeled “foreign alien terrorists” and be detained indefinitely, tortured, and denied that wacky habeas corpus silliness.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:19 pmi’d sign a texas secession petition if they’d promise to oklahoma, or at least its congressional delegation, with them.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:19 pmI would like to hope that cooler and saner heads will prevail in this matter, but when 1 million people in that state sign a petition sanctioning this madness, I’m not sure I have any faith that there are cooler and saner heads down there anymore.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:20 pmFirst, I say let the crazy buggers go. But not until they’ve returned whatever money has gone to surveying or building the border fence. Use that money to build a border fence between TX and whatever bordering stats are populated by sane people. If we have to exclude the entire Old South, so be it. Good riddance. They’ve miscalculated the likely consequences of their idiotic actions even more than they’ve misinterpreted the Constitution.
BTW, nutbags: Ak-47s, bazookas, whatever—bring’em on. I’m sick of your loopy sh*t.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:24 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Let them go. I’m tired of Texans thinking they are better then everyone else. What will they do when the federal government removes all the jobs that are down there cause of the federal government? 2 in 5 texans are employed by the federal government. They are 2nd behind Maryland.
And the socialist charge. It never gets old enough for Texans. Texans get some of the oil profits socialized, like what Sarah Palin was trying to do in Alaska. I guess socialism is ok when Texans do it. What a joke they and their 10 gallon hats are.
After they form there own country they wont last long. They will invade some middle eastern country for oil and the U.S. military will not be there to defend them. Let Russia and China blow Texas off the map.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:29 pmShayne says:
No more Secret Service protecting Bush. And just for kicks they get booted out of the NFL and Ms. America. Texans love them some football and beauty pageants.
Ooooh, that might be a deal breaker, Shayne. No footsball?
August 28th, 2009 at 9:29 pmkwsventures says:
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Only if raving, incoherent loons like yourself give him any credence.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:31 pmkwsventures says:
Maybe that Russian is on to something?
No matter how many times you post that (lacking any original thought of your own), it’s still astonishingly stupid. This is one of my favorite bits:
This guy is as silly as the Texans and all those Southrons who want to replay the Civil War.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:32 pmI hope that Texas does secede. But if it does, we’re going to want our stimulus funds back. Don’t let Oklahoma hit you on the way out!
August 28th, 2009 at 9:34 pmOH, I hope they do it. Let history show how they attempted secesion- or TREASON?-for the stupidest reasons ever. Oh, I would love it. Texas on its own would look like Somalia in 2 years. So sick of these bigmouth racist tough guys.
I know there are a lot of very good Texans, even ones i disagree with. It’s a vast state with an interesting history. But I’m sick of brush-clearin’ blowhards talking trash.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:36 pmGee, if Texas leaves, what is OSU going to do without the Texas Long Horns to beat up on?
August 28th, 2009 at 9:36 pm***
#36,
maybe you should move to texas?
:)
August 28th, 2009 at 9:36 pmDoom Siren says:
I can’t believe the mass hysteria that has taken hold in that state.
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I do find it… peculiar… that such a fever pitch of dissatisfaction can come to a boil in just 6 short months. For theFULL EIGHT YEARS that Bush was despoiling the WH, I don’t recall hearing ONE PEEP from this crowd about how unhappy they were.
Apparently they were just fine w/ endless deficits, torture, wiretapping, systemic, deliberate corruption of the DoJ, and endless bloody war started under false pretenses.
BUT… try to give them “socialized medical care”… and they go absolutely BATSHITE CRAZY in no time flat.
It’d be funny, if it weren’t so pathetic.
And no doubt, they will elect Chuck Norris their King.
And Glen Beck his Queen..
August 28th, 2009 at 9:37 pmThey have two teams, they can play each other all season. :)
August 28th, 2009 at 9:38 pm***
and take rupert murdoch with you.
:)
August 28th, 2009 at 9:39 pmIt’s a Triple Crown! THIRD Laugh of the Day!
ha ha
Although technically this story is about an event tomorrow…
August 28th, 2009 at 9:39 pmHe can’t, they won’t move the double wide with passengers in it and he’s afraid to step outside. That’s what happens when you’re homeschooled.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:40 pmMaybe that Russian is on to something?
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Oooooooo… is this an opening for Sarah Palin to regale us w/ her wisdom?
She’s knows ALLLLLL about them dang Rooskies.
After all, she can see ‘em from her kitchen window.
I wonder if Sarah “accidentally” leaves the shades up when she comes out of the shower?
August 28th, 2009 at 9:40 pmOh for FSM’s sake, just go already.
And leave all the stuff we taxpayers paid for….
August 28th, 2009 at 9:41 pmTentherth?
In Tekthuth?
Let’em thethede, I thay.
(Give’em the Shay’s Rebellion treatment)
August 28th, 2009 at 9:43 pmWow, can we afford to loose that type of brain trust? On the bright side, we could shed a million idiots in one fell swoop
August 28th, 2009 at 9:45 pmIf they’d consider taking Oklahoma with them I think we should talk.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:46 pmExcellent – The suspense has been killing me, and I’ve got a lot of pent-up aggression I’d LOVE to share with some Righties.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:47 pmGive the secessionists a big section around Waco. Make Ted Nugent’s ranch the nucleus of the new Texas Republic and throw some concertina wire up so they can’t can’t change their minds. Just like with corporations, maybe a little divestment of unproductive entities would result in a better overall situation.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:47 pmHopefully we’d never have to see a stupid cowboy hat again.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:48 pmAnd all this time I thought FOX NEWS CHANNEL was good for nothing! They have been most helpful identifying the retards in out midst
August 28th, 2009 at 9:48 pmReally, this topic has come up so often we’re all repeating our same snarky comments over and over again. It would be nice if Florida or Arizona would threaten to secede so we would be forced to be more creative.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:50 pmI propose that Texas tries secession in stages.
Stage One: Refuse to accept any Federal Funds in excess of the amounts Texans pay to the Federal government.
Stage Two: erect border crossings.
Stage Three: remove Texas from NAFTA.
Stage Four: wait for a category four or higher hurricane to hit. Texas will be on its own.
OR: TRY ALL LEADERS OF THE SECESSIONIST MOVEMENT FOR TREASON AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:50 pmYES, please! But they have to take ALL the crazies with them, and we must build a HUGE wall around Texas and they don’t get Austin….
August 28th, 2009 at 9:51 pmPlease – go – and take the whole disgusting bunch of right-wing lunatics with y’all. I’ll give it six months and you will be eating each other.
Oh yea – we get to keep Austin and maybe San Antonio
August 28th, 2009 at 9:52 pmSEVEN Mucking fonths into the BlackGuy administration, and the crosseyed fauxbuckskins are already coming out.
No, you idiots can’t wear Coonskin hats and get away with it.
Morons.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:53 pmUT hasn’t had a great football team since Darrel Royal coached. I would hate to lose the University of Texas, and Austin; but they wouldn’t be lost for long. How many Yankees is Chuck Norris going to kill, I mean really?
August 28th, 2009 at 9:53 pmAt present, the Texas Nationalist Movement has a petition with 1 Million signatures directly calling for a vote of secession.
This is a lie. Everybody knows damn well they don’t have a million signatures for any such thing.
Remember: never believe anything a wingnut says, no matter how seemingly irrelevant it may seem to the main point. Anything else they say is just another lie designed to set up their thesis.
I’d be willing to give them back to Mexico, with any infrastructure built as interest on the loan. But nothing else.
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Marie says:
Is this protest against the law? Is it Constitutional?
The Constution contains no provision whatsoever for the secession of any State.
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kwsventures says:
Maybe that Russian is on to something?
No, he’s an idiot. Look at the borders he drew. Nobody who lived in America (at least not anywhere near those borders) would divide America remotely like he did.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:55 pmCan I help build barricades at every single interstate highway in and out of the “Public of Texass” so these fools can’t actually do any more damage to our nation?
August 28th, 2009 at 9:55 pmSo, 1/25 the population of Texas wants to go on their own. I don’t like their chances.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:55 pmwiley, you make a good point. Looks like Alex Rodriguez isn’t going to make any more appearances at Arlington Stadium, eh?
August 28th, 2009 at 9:56 pmReally RUC they’re reacting to a black president as if they were losing their slaves all over again.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:56 pmJust farking secede already, Texas.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:57 pmIt can be your way of atoning for Bush.
If the Texas authorities do not arrest the leaders of this march, they are not enforcing the rule of law. It is treason to actively petition for secession. If necessary, try everyone that signed the petition, and hang them all.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:58 pmShayne, imagine what they’d do to Sherriff Bart!!
August 28th, 2009 at 9:59 pmI say, fine…let ‘em secede. Wonder how long it will take them to realize that this means any and all kinds of federal funding or protection will cease to apply to them. After all, if they’re so opposed to what they perceive as intrusions by our federal government that they wish to separate themselves from it, then they no longer deserve to claim whatever benefits they gain from it.
One thing this would mean, just for starters, is that they should be required to either purchase or turn over most of the heavy equipment belonging to the armed forces because it’s US government property and not Texas property — if they’re not part of the country anymore, then it no longer belongs to them and they have no legal or ethical right to claim it as theirs.
The Republican Party (the one to which many Tenthers belong) loves to pontificate on the importance of taking personal responsibility and accepting the consequences of one’s own choices. Well, if they’re determined to secede, this will be the perfect opportunity for them to do just that. Let’s just see how well they do at taking care of all the tasks which the federal government used to do for them. My guess is that when the consequences of their decision really start to hit home and they begin to notice ways in which they took federal services for granted or overlooked them, they might just rue their decision. However, in my opinion, it’s one thing for a foreign country to apply to the United States for aid — but it would be quite another for a state which deliberately chose to reject and separate itself from us to do so. Frankly, if a majority of Texans should choose to reject the United States and secede, then I think perhaps we should consider extending the withdrawal of aid from the federal sector into the private sector — as in, no trade between the United States and Texas. It’s not nice to bite the hand which helps feed you — so where would be the point or the virtue in rewarding them for it?
August 28th, 2009 at 9:59 pmThis could get interesting. Maybe there’ll be a war between the secessionists and the loyal Americans.
August 28th, 2009 at 9:59 pmI meant a civil war amongst Texans.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:00 pmThis has all come about because we currently have an African-American President name Obama. This movement is all about racial hatred. And it comes just as Texas is moving politically toward a toss-up State thanks to the Republican leadership stance on immigration. Keep digging, Republicans.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:03 pmi’ll say it again –
they forgot about the “indivisible” when they added “under god”…
what a waste…
August 28th, 2009 at 10:04 pmEnough of the stupid shi*heads. Either we let Texas go and deport any wingnut from Iowa (or where ever they may be) to Texas – or we just strip the citizenship from any as*hole that wants to cede.
If they dispise it enough here to no longer want to be part of the union – then it’s o.k. with me. Stip them of citizenship and deport the bastards.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:05 pmIt is possible that there could be violence erupting within the state of Texas itself. Unfortunate for the Republicans, the loyalists would have the full support of the United States of America.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:06 pmThese idiots think they’re uber-patriots, but all they are is treasonous bastards.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:08 pmThese people do not have the right to revoke U.S. citizenship from those Texans who want to keep it. That’s what they’re trying to do: strip rights from their neighbors.
If you don’t want to be a U.S. citizen any more, then remove yourself from its borders physically.
You do not get to remove the rights of your neighbors.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:15 pmanother embarrassment for the progressives of Texas I cant believe how stupid we are in this state I mean first we elect bush Governor then his butt boy Perry takes his place and continues to do so along with that nut job Senator Cornyn frankly if Texas left the U.S. The countries I.Q. would jump ten points at least id head north until Texas goes broke or the U.S. takes it back and hangs these idiots.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:15 pmBruce is right, you know. It is extremely unlikely that they have that many signatures. Austin is blue in general, but San Antonio, Dallas, and Houston were all blue in the last presidential election. Though I’ve been personally disgusted with my home state and left it in disgust in ‘94, I must say that it might be unfair to assume that these wingnuts represent Texas. My sympathies to the sane citizens of Texas.
When a minority goes nuts in a country with an MSM that is sensational and lame as ours, it’s kind of hard to get the “we’re not insane” message out.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:17 pmWho are these bozos trying to kid?? This is a KLAN rally – pure and simple….Hope the locals have a large supply of handcuffs….
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First we have Bush and the world despises us. Then we gain an incredible amount of good will by electing Obama. Then a zillion racist crazies rear their heads (like Putin, you know). What does the rest of the world think of us now?
If I was a foreign leader I’d think twice about giving us visas, I mean we all must have mad cow disease or something.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:20 pm***
looks like kwsventures has bailed out.
maybe he was scared of something?
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August 28th, 2009 at 10:26 pmTexas ‘tenthers’ plan pro-secession rally tomorrow.
– - Get out, GO! And take the Wasilla Whackjob with you.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:27 pmSerg909 says:
another embarrassment for the progressives of Texas I cant believe how stupid we are in this state I mean first we elect bush Governor then his butt boy Perry takes his place and continues to do so along with that nut job Senator Cornyn…
Fix your Tom Delay era gerrymandering and you should be fine. That means focusing on state legislative positions first. But I do believe Texas can dig themselves out of this deep, deep hole of pure stupid. It’s just going to take some persistence and tenacity, two things of which I am assured Texas has no dearth.
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blclem says:
Are you saying that the people in Texas who bring up the 10th admendment, states rights or even secession are racist? I don’t understand what you are saying.
They didn’t complain to this degree before now. Not when Clinton or Bush or anyone before them were in office. Obama has done nothing to earn all of these cries of tyranny. The only difference is that he’s a black guy.
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blclem says:
I think the states just want to be heard and not ignored.
They’re called elections. We just had one late last year. Check it out sometime.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:27 pmI’m bad at math but I think 1,000,000 signatures out of the state’s population of 24,000,000 represents 2.4% of all Texans. This group is making a big, big noise like Beck, the birthers, etc. They all represent a tiny part of the population. They feed off the media attention. Chill and ignore them, as loud and whiny, posturing, and macho as they get.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:29 pmThat said, their staements are treasonous and the F.B.I. et al should keep their eyes on them. Does the war on terror only apply to people who aren’t Christian and live in foreign countries?
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If Texas decided to secede, I wonder how long it would be before people from Texas started trying to sneak across the border into the United States in the hope of getting better jobs and/or enjoying some of the benefits which they used to have when they were still US citizens…
Now that would indeed be brutally — perhaps even painfully — ironic, wouldn’t you say? Texans choosing to make the very same choices that they used to hate and vilify other people for making…
Isn’t there an old saying to the effect that the world often looks a lot different when you stand in the other person’s shoes? In my experience, people all too often find that the other man’s shoes aren’t nearly as comfortable as they’d assumed they’d be — or else they find out that they fit far too well for comfort!
August 28th, 2009 at 10:31 pmMaking a huge stink, and threatening to withdraw from your republic because you “just want to be heard”, is called “being in tantrum”. Very unbecoming behavior for adults and anyone older than three. It suggests a poor upbringing, lack of socialization, and lack of self-control.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:33 pmI aint you,
Please go with them. And when you BEG to return we’ll let you in as long as you wear a big scarlet T on your chest.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:34 pmi aint you says:
GO TEXAS
August 28th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
You can go with them, traitor.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:35 pm***
“… become thier own nation,since they were at one time thier own country any way”
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you have shown (in a clear voice)
your pathetic stupidity.
:)
August 28th, 2009 at 10:36 pmi aint you says:
I just wounder how the feds will get by with out Texas Tea, AKA Black Gold, never mind they will just get it from OPEC.
– - Geeze are you dim.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:37 pmWe really shouldn’t be so squeemish about hanging traitors like iaintyou and everyone that signed that petition.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:37 pmblclem says:
I think the states just want to be heard and not ignored.
Damn, I have to respond to that again, it’s so egotistical.
I think we’ve heard plenty from Texas in the last few decades, thanks. Maybe some other states should get a chance to “not be ignored.” I’m from Oregon. We want rational Americans (like Obama) to put their heads together and get us out of the mess that the “special needs” states (like Texas) created. Don’t we get an equal chance to “not be ignored?” Because it sounds a lot to me like Texas is trying to ignore us.
Sit down, shut up, and let us take care of this. You’ve done enough already.
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rattypilgrim says:
I’m bad at math but I think 1,000,000 signatures out of the state’s population of 24,000,000 represents 2.4% of all Texans
Don’t even grant them that. 1M signatures is a lie. They lie. That’s what they do. Besides, it’s just an online poll. Vote early and often!
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i aint you says:
this has nothing to do with the 10th admendment, this has to do with the agreement they signed when they joined the USA, that is if at any time they are not happy with the way the US is ran they can “once again” become thier own nation,since they were at one time thier own country any way,
Which agreement was abrogated when they seceded during the 1st Civil War. It is not in force at present. Nice try, but we’ve already looked into that one.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:40 pmOh…PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE secede!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!
August 28th, 2009 at 10:41 pmSayonara, Texas, and take all those damn revisionist history books with you, along with that edict to teach in the public schools that America is a Christian nation. Oh, and you will probably be giving up those federally-funded public schools–that’s OK, you can homeschool all your little darlins. And I think you’ll probably be losing Kinky Friedman as a resident.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:43 pmMakes me think of General W.T. Sherman, after being stationed in Texas after the Civil War he remarked if he owned Texas and Hell, he’d rent out Texas and live in Hell.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:43 pmWhere do I sign….get these suckers out..Pull every Federal installation and dollar out of Texas. Then they can enjoy “their” government.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:44 pm***
i don’t think this parade’s going to come off.
check the link, there’s only seven comments
and most of those are from idiots.
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August 28th, 2009 at 10:45 pmWhat a group of idiots.
They can secede and find their own land outside of the US.
This is a big waste of time. The repugs should look at their club and try to figure out what’s wrong with THEM.
One million idiots doesn’t compare to the 76% on our side.
~~~cracking my neck~~~
August 28th, 2009 at 10:52 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
A really grieve for this country. It was once a great nation founded upon great virtue and values. However, it is apparent that insanity has impacted a significant minority of our population. Give Texans ten days to leave the state and then nuke it.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:55 pmPlease secede! And take all your neocon/evangelist friends with you! We DON’T WANT YOU ANYMORE!! GO!!!
August 28th, 2009 at 10:56 pmJoe,
Checked you link. I think my favorite part is where on poster says Lincoln faked his birth certificate.
The other being another knucklehead citing Beck and Limbaugh as sources of information.
Hilarious.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:57 pmLevi the Dungbeetle says:
Can you imagine Texas trying to defend itself against the entire US military? I mean, one cluster bomb dropped on those marching on the Texas capital, and it’s all over. Texas is an embarrassment to this country and needs a serious wingnut enema.
It won’t be all of TX, just the stupid repugs. Fighting on the repug side will be old white farts and racist scum.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:57 pmBS. I have heard nothing of this. And no one I know is going to it.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:57 pmThere is nothing to this, its just hype, ignore it.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:58 pmBuh-and-Bye! Oh, and quit making childish threats, Texas. Man the f-up and leave already! Geez-us H…seriously, like what, we’re going to miss y’all?
August 28th, 2009 at 10:58 pmWe are also having a march in favor of the healthcare reform in downtown Austin tomorrow. Austin is blue as any city in the United States. Every state has wingnuts. These are the teabaggers who voted for Rick Perry. Kinky Friedman is the only reason that loser won last time. Rednecks are misinformed haters.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:58 pmIGNORE THE HYPE There is nothing like that here
August 28th, 2009 at 10:59 pmOH GOOD GRIEF.
If I could do something similar to Bugs Bunny, when he sawed Florida off, gave it a shove, and said “South America…Take It Away!”…
I would do that to Texas.
Mexico? If we can get House Haulers from TV, would you take that lameass state with their bizzaro freak show and move it to your area of the world? Please?!?
August 28th, 2009 at 10:59 pm***
rich,
here’s the mother lode.
enjoy!
:)
August 28th, 2009 at 10:59 pmTo paraphrase Mark Twain,
The worst year of my life was the day I spent in Texas.
August 28th, 2009 at 10:59 pmJust how many more times do we have to go to the Slave Sates to teach them a lesson on how to get along with people? I’m getting tired of burning the South to the ground.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:00 pmIts BS, I am in Texas and there is nothing that like that going on.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:00 pmi aint you says:
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Sheesh… from the quality of the grammar and spelling, I’m putting my money on home schooled…
And Texas tea? Haven’t heard that phrase used since The Beverly Hillbillies went off the air.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:01 pmOutlaw,
They are actively committing treason. The penalty for treason is death by hanging. I picture a million wingnuts swinging from the end of a rope, making America a safer, saner nation.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:01 pmOh, let them secede. And every other southern state that is making similar noises. Including my state, Florida, if it ever comes to that. No war necessary. All sane people within the state will leave, and the rest can try to get along without all the federal aid and protections they’ve received. It wouldn’t be long before they’d be clammoring to rejoin the Union.
I would, personally, look forward to Texans having to have a passport to cross the border into the U.S. And I guess we’ll just have to build fences between Texas and the U.S. now since they will be invaded by all those scary “illegal aliens” they hate so much. And with no federal border security guards, they’ll have to hire the Minutemen and other such militia groups. Really…it tickles me to imagine all the various comedic scenes created by their idiocy. Unfortunately, there will be a lot of poor people who, if they are sane and want to leave can’t because they can’t afford it. Perhaps there will be a People’s Revolution in Texas at that point. Ah, the imagination knows no bounds!
August 28th, 2009 at 11:02 pmOk, yes Texas is al red and we are for private wars.
/snark
August 28th, 2009 at 11:03 pmOuthouse,
It was decided by the Supreme Court in 1868. Educate yourself.
Texas v. White
August 28th, 2009 at 11:03 pmTexas and Idaho aryans for life!!!
August 28th, 2009 at 11:04 pmRight Zooey, we are, and your nephews and nieces are neo nazis, right?
August 28th, 2009 at 11:05 pmWoo hooo, Texans for Hitler!!
/snark
August 28th, 2009 at 11:05 pmHow arrogant and irrelevant.
Crazy TX doesn’t rule the US.
These traitors need to fall back.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:06 pmIdaho can go with Texas — after they let me out. ;)
August 28th, 2009 at 11:07 pmYou know, it strikes me that a Southern state trying to secede during the administration of a President who has a tendency to compare himself to Lincoln would be a really, really bad idea… especially when it’s a fight you have zero per cent chance of winning.
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kasinca says:
We are also having a march in favor of the healthcare reform in downtown Austin tomorrow. Austin is blue as any city in the United States.
Fear not, Austin. If worst comes to worst we will liberate you.
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delafield says:
I’m getting tired of burning the South to the ground.
I’m not.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:07 pmFine. Let ‘em go. But make sure they understand that if they’re no longer part of the U.S. then their pro football teams are ineligible to play anymore.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:07 pm***
#128,
we get your point,
there are nuts everywhere.
:|
August 28th, 2009 at 11:08 pmXisithrus says:
BS. I have heard nothing of this. And no one I know is going to it.
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You watch. Any news footage will be shot like that great scene years ago in “Help”, where the Beatles came off the plane in the Bahamas and started shaking hands w/ a row of policemen, who kept circling around to form an endless line.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:08 pmJoe,
What a great link. I guess I don’t want to copy and paste (actually I do), let’s just say it’s all one would need to know about these crazies.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:08 pmAint gonns happen
August 28th, 2009 at 11:10 pmOutlaw, before you get an answer to your question, you have tell us what were the crimes you were convicted of that led to you’re serving time in prison.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:11 pmLevi the Dungbeetle says:
If the Texas authorities do not arrest the leaders of this march, they are not enforcing the rule of law. It is treason to actively petition for secession. If necessary, try everyone that signed the petition, and hang them all.
Actually, this is called “petitioning the government” and is certainly NOT treason, until it were to evolve into actual planning and action. That action, and actual secession would be considered so. As I stated above, however, let them do so. Just withdraw all federal support, dollars, aid and so forth. It wouldn’t be long before they’d beg to become part of the United States again. But, honestly, I think this is just another example of the very loud and vocal but tiny minority of far-right crazies. And the media pays way too much attention to these nuts.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:14 pmYa know… I’ve been thinking about this…
***tapping finger slowly on table…***
Now… if Texas agrees to take Bush, Norris, and Nugent with them… AND… we can throw Murdoch and his whole nutty crew in too…
We’ve… got… a… DEAL!!!!!!!
***flashing lights… balloons and confetti drop from ceiling…***
August 28th, 2009 at 11:14 pmThe sun also sets,
Or they could just cut and paste like Bush used to in order to make his crowds look bigger. Too stupid though, you could actually see where the same people were repeated over and over.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:14 pmDont fall into the trao, it isnt going to happen.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:15 pmIf Texas secedes, the collective IQ of the remaining states would rise by 10 points, the whole south, make it 35
August 28th, 2009 at 11:15 pmRich H says:
Or they could just cut and paste like Bush used to in order to make his crowds look bigger.
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Photoshop… A Republican’s best friend…
August 28th, 2009 at 11:16 pmI live in Texas, Norris is a joke and people were glad to see dubya go, but if you wish to let pre-conceived notions sway you….fine
We will see.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:18 pmSkip57 says: If Texas secedes, the collective IQ of the remaining states would rise by 10 points, the whole south, make it 35
Yes, Texas is going to secede..LMAO
August 28th, 2009 at 11:21 pmSo is Idaho and Kansas, lol
August 28th, 2009 at 11:23 pmZooey says:
These idiots think they’re uber-patriots, but all they are is treasonous bastards.
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You’re being far too generous.
In the spirit of the thread… having seen the flop, I’m going all in “Too Stoopid to Live…”
August 28th, 2009 at 11:24 pmIf Rick Perry secedes he cannot run for pres, its red meat, of course Perry wants to be Pres. Think about it. Secession is but red meat like birthers, tenthers, deathers etc etc
August 28th, 2009 at 11:27 pmI can along with that, Sunset.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:27 pmI’m not, Zep. I just think it’s so funny. :)
August 28th, 2009 at 11:29 pmLMAO, dont fall for this crap.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:29 pmQ: 150 years later, “Why did the Civil War happen?”
A: To end slavery.
Q: In 2159, “Why did Texas secede from the United States?”
August 28th, 2009 at 11:31 pmA: Because they didn’t want the government to pay for medicine.
If the Birthers join ranks w/ the MILLION proud members of the Texas National Movement… can we call them the Mirthers?
They’re sure cracking me up…
But then… Hitler did start out w/ a half dozen drunken followers in the back of a Munich beer hall.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:31 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
This group is major whacko! I would hope they’re on the Fed’s watch list. http://www.drawaline.org/
It is sad that a small and noisy group are tarring every Texan with the same brush. I lived in Texas many years ago and have many friends and a few relatives there, and believe me – NONE are happy with what’s been happening with Perry, the changes in schooling, and now this.
Where are a few good Democrats who could run for office and get elected?
As to the changes in teaching religion, etc….doesn’t that go against Federal laws and wouldn’t that mean they cannot get money for their programs?
I never watch Fox, but wouldn’t be surprised if someone like Hannity shows up in Austin tomorrow.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:32 pmI’m not, Zep. I just think it’s so funny. :)
Its so stoopid it is funny, I agree. Abd yet people will make this an issue.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:33 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
time travek is weird huh zooey?
LOL
August 28th, 2009 at 11:34 pmBwahaha. AINT. GONNA. HAPPEN,
August 28th, 2009 at 11:36 pmI answered your question above, Outhouse.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:39 pmVery weird, X. :)
August 28th, 2009 at 11:41 pmIn keeping with my long standing interest in zany people I really really want to meet some of these oddballs…
August 28th, 2009 at 11:43 pm***
#157,
see you at the parade assho|e.
:)
August 28th, 2009 at 11:46 pmWhat makes you think the ex con can read?
August 28th, 2009 at 11:46 pmI see Barbara Wagner is a talking point. Would private insurance have granted her an experimental medication? Tragic as her case is, the state of Oregon and OHP has kept many people alive. My best friend would have died in Texas, but the state of Oregon provided him with a 24/7 live-in caregiver and a transplant.
Using this case as an argument to deny health coverage to anyone who needs it and can’t afford it is EVIL and hypocritical. So you wingnuts want a lot of people to die without health insurance because the state is imperfect? Blow me.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:49 pm***
#154,
it was her insurance carrier who turned
her down you lying nazi fu(k.
read it and weep, literally.
:|
August 28th, 2009 at 11:50 pmWhy do I get the feeling that shit about being an outlaw is in fact shit?
August 28th, 2009 at 11:52 pmReggie says:
What makes you think the ex con can read?
August 28th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
I don’t really care. :D
August 28th, 2009 at 11:53 pmOutlaw284 says:
Oregon Health Plan wouldn’t pay for it but it would pay for drugs for a physician-assisted death
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Riiiiiiiight… so much better to be like Texas, w/ more than for times the number of executions than ANY OTHER state in the Union over the last 30 years.
Saaaaaaaaay… didn’t Bush once GIGGLE, on camera, about sending a woman to her death, and even mock her?
August 28th, 2009 at 11:58 pmOutlaw284 says:
ElBruce says:
I’m from Oregon.
Well now there is a state to brag about. The state that refused Barbara Wagner, a 64-year-old Oregon woman, the cancer medicine that she needed to fight cancer. Oregon Health Plan wouldn’t pay for it but it would pay for drugs for a physician-assisted death.
And you know for sure that a private insurance company would have gone ahead and paid $4,000 per month for a medication that “does not meet the “five-year, 5 percent rule” — that is, a 5 percent survival rate after five years.” A drug that has a success rate marginally above a placebo. When you started injecting talking points, you might have asked for a little detail that didn’t make you look stupid.
Yup that is a state that I would brag about being from. By the way the only part of that state that is Democratic is Portland, Salem, and Eugene-Springfield. and that is getting to be questionable.
You should look at the voting for November 2008 before you again look like an idiot. Pay particular attention to the central portion of the south, which voted for Obama. You should also know, if actual facts aren’t too difficult to digest, that Portland/Salem/Eugene happens to have the bulk of the state’s population. And that the Oregon GOP holds absolutely no statewide positions, hasn’t had any for years, has minority status in both houses of the legislature, and had so little money they had to give up their headquarters because they couldn’t pay the rent. Any suggestion that the Democratic lead in the state is in danger is so unbelievably stupid that even you should be embarrassed.
Try dishing out your bullsh!t around people that don’t know any better — like your fellow GOPers. Just don’t try it around people from Oregon, fool.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:00 amAny place that serves fried pickles ought to secede…Chicken Fried chicken is a stupid concept as well… Have at it Texas hit the road…
August 29th, 2009 at 12:01 amOh, this article chaps my butt. The doctor who prescribed the $4,000 dollar a month medication gave her another six months to live. That’s the median survival rate for this drug. These wing-nuts are using this as argument that the government would have “death panels” and kill people when they had a substantial chance of surviving for a long period of time with routine treatment.
Thousands die every year for lack of routine care that used to be affordable for a working class family to pay for with cash, if it were absolutely necessary. Our system stinks.
The state wasn’t encouraging to kill herself, either. They were simply informing her of an option. If you have lung cancer, have previously undergone chemo and radiation therapy, and it returns after a remission, you should consider your option.
I hate the current theme that life-threatening illness is the sole province of the elderly and people who abuse their bodies, but this woman was 64 and a heavy smoker, and all of a sudden in the wingnut world, it’s the gravest tragedy that the state didn’t pull out all the stops to save her for six months (maybe).
August 29th, 2009 at 12:05 amOutlaw284 says:
Levi the Dungbeetle
So just how is wanting to secede treason. It is a states right if they get the votes from the people to do it. There is nothing that the Federal Government can do about it.
Proof? Because in the world of reality, we fought a war in the 19th Century the last time states tried. Where is the wording in the Constitution that says, “If a state gets sick of being in the union, they just call a mulligan, and walk away.”
So if the rest of us decide we’re sick of Texas, we will be happy to wave goodbye, right after the state returns all the federal property they’re sitting on, and start squabbling with Mexico about whether they really had the right to steal that land in the first place–and they’ll have to do it without the US military.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:06 amgummitch,
I said that already! He’s supposed to go back and look for it.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:07 amdbadass says:
Chicken Fried chicken is a stupid concept as well…
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Ever hear of Chicken Fried Bacon Strips?
And how about this little cholesterol bomb?
Geez… I’m getting chest pains just THINKING about it…
And you’d think this would scare the heck outta people…
On the other hand, it sure explains a lot of the behavior I’ve seen recently.
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I think I speak for most liberals, (except liberals who live in Texas), when I say…
LET THEM SECEDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, and please take Oklahoma and the rest of the south with you. Maybe then, we can actually accomplish something in this country without conservative riffraff clogging the arteries of the federal government.
Obama, if they DO secede, don’t you DARE try to be a second Lincoln and instigate a war to “preserve the union.” There is absolutely nothing better in this world than to watch Texas dig its own grave by trying to be its own nation. We don’t NEED Texas, nor the rest of the south. If anything, we NEED them to secede.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:08 amDon’t worry Xisithrus, we’re just getting the whole Bush/Southern thing out of our system. Of course there’s zero chance that it will come to anything. But if wingnuts down there want to talk tough, I’m more than willing to fit their asses for my size 12 boot.
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Outlaw284 says:
The state that refused Barbara Wagner, a 64-year-old Oregon woman, the cancer medicine that she needed to fight cancer. Oregon Health Plan wouldn’t pay for it but it would pay for drugs for a physician-assisted death.
Yep, and then we fixed the loophole that exactly one person fell into. But at least we’re trying. Wherever you live, you’re happy to let unnamed people die left and right for no reason at all. Our “Death With Dignity” and “Medical Marijuana” laws have been administered responsibly for years, and all of the chicken-little predictions the right wing complained about have failed to come true. Check this out:
We don’t kill anybody. But if a terminally ill person wants to choose how they go out and is consistent through counseling and therapy, then we won’t stop them. And we’ve carefully monitored to make sure we aren’t creating an incentive or trend towards any form of euthanasia. The factual results continue to bear our approach out.
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Outlaw284 says:
By the way the only part of that state that is Democratic is Portland, Salem, and Eugene-Springfield. and that is getting to be questionable.
Before I lived here, I lived in Washington State. They both work pretty much the same – over 70% of the population is left-wing and lives on the West side of the Cascade mountain range, which cuts each state vertically down the center. The remaining 30% trends right-wing and lives in the flat East side, which basically amounts to the West edge of the Great Plains region. But Oregon is hardly trending-conservative overall, no more than Washington is.
I’ve always thought it would be much more reasonable for Western Washington and Western Oregon to join as a single state, and let Eastern Washington and Eastern Oregon create their own state as well. At least the East-siders would have fair representation in the Senate. And the West-siders could stop having to deal with bible-thumping wingnuts encroaching on our Cascadian utopia.
You know the right-wing method of repeatedly attacking various regions of America as being “unamerican” is merely serving to exclude you from the greater portion of the country, right? You keep this up, there’ll be nowhere left for you to claim as the “high ground.” Will you GTFO then? Please?
August 29th, 2009 at 12:09 amHi conservative guy. Gone already aren’t you?
August 29th, 2009 at 12:10 ambitblt says:
Is it more important to eliminate poverty and weaken families, or is it more important to preserve the family and let the intact families worry about the poverty?
August 29th, 2009 at 12:08 am
You are a sick f uck. No wonder I flag you on sight.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:10 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Do they not realize that a vote for secession has no binding constitutional meaning, aside from being treasonous?
August 29th, 2009 at 12:12 amWhat is it that the U.S. could give the people of Texas that the Texas Nation couldn’t give them? bit would be Ok with a Texas issued passport.
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August 29th, 2009 at 12:12 amA place to sell fuc ked up textbooks that tell kids that two of everything can coexist on a boat and that dudes can live in cetacean stomachs?
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What happen in the U.S. between 1940 and 2007? The Great Society, a U.S. Federal welfare program, happened around 1965. If the Texas Nation has to end the U.S. Federal welfare programs, the Texas Nation might find that some of the importance of the family is restored and regained.
When bitblt brings the stupid, it’s difficult to find a competitor. Of course, nothing happened between 1940 and 2007 except the Great Society. Nothing. So, naturally, everything would be perfect and wonderful if we all just magically returned to 1940 (ignore WWI, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, Civil Rights, etc etc etc).
And, heck and gosh, if one-third of a million Texans have to eat dirt because welfare has dried up, the rest will be stronger as a result. Of course, they’ll also lose a lot of income when all those military bases close, and when they lose all their defense contracts, but what the heck? They’ll still magically have family values!
August 29th, 2009 at 12:13 amHi Outlaw284
August 29th, 2009 at 12:14 amWhich laws are you out of? Just curious….
Outhouse,
Do your own homework. I gave you the link.
Hint: The Supreme Court has decided already.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:14 amWhen bitblt brings the stupid, it’s difficult to find a competitor
August 29th, 2009 at 12:15 am—
I am just wondering what this has to do with homosexual abortions…
i aint you says:
Rember the Alamo– Battle cry for Texas’s independance, that is till they made the mistake of believing the lies the US goverment told them, they should’ve learned by listining to the lies that the US told the Native Americans. i wounder what Crocket, Bowie, and Travis would think if they knew they had died for nothing. in short Texas should’ve stayed independent
Another tool. My goodness, we’ve got more than our share tonight. Hey, tool, Texas PETITIONED to join the Union and were rebuffed because abolitionists and nationalists wanted nothing to do with them. They weren’t tricked into joining the Union, although I’m sure that’s what they’re teaching in home schools these days.
Go! Please, just frickin’ go!
August 29th, 2009 at 12:15 amA new troll graces us with his presence. *flag* *flag* *flag*
And to make it better, the troll gets pwn3d on his Right Wing Talking Point. Nice.
In 1860, the worse that could happen to a seceding state was that it could be invaded and conquered by men with rifles on horseback.
Today, what could happen to a seceding state is that it gets set free to fend off agressive foreign neighbors by itself, gets thrust into the world economy with an unproven government and currency, is invaded by men on APCs carring battle rifles, gets its infrastructure blown up by precision laser guided missiles, or at an extreme, has a close encounter with either fission or fusion and a new sun rises over that state. There are so many ways we could f*** over the troll and his side that it’s amusing to think of how some could go. But hey. Go for it. Maybe I can avoid moving to Canada if you’re all moving to the Republic of Texas.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:17 amOutlaw284 says:
So just how is wanting to secede treason. It is a states right if they get the votes from the people to do it.
Show me in the Constitution where it says they get to that, ‘k? If it ain’t there, they’re talking treason. Hint: it ain’t there.
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dbadass says:
…Chicken Fried chicken is a stupid concept as well…
Wait – Texas is where I can find chicken fried chicken? Damn, I’ve been looking for that everywhere! That tears it – they’re not getting away with secession now. No damn way.
I mean, chicken fried steak is a stupid concept if and only if there’s no such thing as chicken fried chicken. And CFS is awesome. CFC more so.
Do not come between a Portlander and tasty breakfast food. Seriously, the rest of the country doesn’t know – check out the front of any really good breakfast restaurant on a Saturday morning and there’ll be a line of hipsters around the block. It’s kind of like how New Yorkers line up in front of night clubs every Friday night. The thing is, the New Yorkers all do coke and go out dancing at night; the Portlanders smoke weed all night and then go out to breakfast in the morning
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conservative guy says:
Obama is only half black.
Obama is only half white. What’s your point?
I’ve never heard of a bigot making the distinction between black and half-black. It’s all the same to them.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:19 amdbadass says:
I am just wondering what this has to do with homosexual abortions…
August 29th, 2009 at 12:15 am
Now you’ve got bitbutt all excited…
August 29th, 2009 at 12:19 amOutlaw284 says:
What that is saying is that texas couldn’t unilaterally secede.
Maybe outlaw doesn’t know what the word “unilaterally” means?
August 29th, 2009 at 12:19 amNo wonder I flag you on sight
August 29th, 2009 at 12:20 am—
Please don’t Zooey. For me?
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gummble-bee-itch says:
Maybe outlaw doesn’t know what the word “unilaterally” means?
August 29th, 2009 at 12:19 am
Outhouse doesn’t know what “outlaw” means.
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bitblt says:
The Texas Nation…
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What’s “The Texas Nation”, bit? The latest tag-team pro wrestling sensation?
Question for you Bit… after 8 years of “Abstinence Only” sex ed, the rate of teen pregnancies is up, and EVEN MORE SO in Red States…
What’s your take on that, bit?
August 29th, 2009 at 12:21 amOutlaw284
Perfect example of why Texas should secede.
That would be an incredible boost to the US economy and fund health care for all, knock a big fat dent in the deficit, Bush and Cheney’s tyrannical legacy would be null and void and their books would banned books in the US. No more US military bases or help they would have to hand over all DOD arms and WMD’s. And they would have to handle all the illegal immigrants.
We get to watch a bunch of conservatives maim each other and rob from each other all, while blaming each other for their misdeeds. That would provide great fodder for MSM.
BTW we could impose heavy sanctions on Texas.
Yes, Texas would do much better if it left the union.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:21 amthe Portlanders smoke weed all night and then go out to breakfast in the morning
August 29th, 2009 at 12:22 am—
Well that would make the fried pickles with ranch dressing more appealing…
Do not come between a Portlander and tasty breakfast food. Seriously, the rest of the country doesn’t know – check out the front of any really good breakfast restaurant on a Saturday morning and there’ll be a line of hipsters around the block. It’s kind of like how New Yorkers line up in front of night clubs every Friday night. The thing is, the New Yorkers all do coke and go out dancing at night; the Portlanders smoke weed all night and then go out to breakfast in the morning
You really are from around here, aren’t you? Zell’s is the best, IMO. Dutch pancakes with seasonal fruit? Get out of my way!
Still, we also rock in terms of cocktails; some of the best and most innovative bartenders in the country are working within a 1/2 mile or so, plus bonus, a bunch of microdistillers in even closer proximity.
Need I say it? Much better than Texas.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:22 amMy mom’s a Texan.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:23 amWhen people ask about my ethnicity, I usually say I’m half Texan and half American. I didn’t realize I was being prophetic……
Outlaw284
August 29th, 2009 at 12:24 amAre you going to tell me which laws you are out of or not? See I really am a badass but I am doubting you are an outlaw…
Outhouse:
In deciding the merits of the bond issue, the court further held that the Constitution did not permit states to secede from the United States, and that the ordinances of secession, and all the acts of the legislatures within seceding states intended to give effect to such ordinances, were “absolutely null”.
LINK
August 29th, 2009 at 12:25 amdbadass says:
Please don’t Zooey. For me?
August 29th, 2009 at 12:20 am
Only tonight, db. :)
August 29th, 2009 at 12:25 amOutlaw284 says:
ElBruce
Hate to tell ya but your breakdown of Oregon is so wrong it isn’t even funny. The only place that the libs have a strong hold in the state of Oregon is the towns that I listed. The rest of the state is Con. If the rest of the state could move Portland, Salem, Albany, and Eugene-Springfield out they would be happy.
You really are an idiot. November 2008, 56-40% Obama. If those cities left, there wouldn’t be an Oregon. There would be only a fraction of the population, no money, no industry . . .
Check this out. Guess where the voters are, you buffoon.
And before you shove your foot any farther down your throat, explain what I listed above about the status of the Oregon GOP. No national offices. None. Zero. Zip. Minority status in both houses. Tiny minority at that. And a bankrupt state GOP. You know even less about the State of Oregon than you do about, well, just about anything.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:29 ami aint you says:
___________
This oneCAIN’T be real…
It’s GOT TO BE a deliberate parody…
‘N I see ya brought Ole Chomper with ya too!
August 29th, 2009 at 12:30 amA.M.F.!!! Don’t let the door hit you on your collective, DUMB- asses.
Leave Austin for the sane.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:33 ami aint you says:
bruce you need to spend some time east of the Cascades– which by the way make up 2/3rds of the state, and is concidered high desert, you would find it to be very conservative
I think I’ve mentioned that I’ve lived longer East of the Cascades (Spokane, Washington specifically) than I have West. I like West better.
And it’s not 2/3, unless you count all of the Cascades themselves as “East of the Cascades.” Which I don’t. But that would still be just going by landmass, not population.
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i aint you says:
and as for that ladie being declined meds– well that is not the only time it has happened
Yes it is.
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Outlaw284 says:
Hate to tell ya but your breakdown of Oregon is so wrong it isn’t even funny
No, it’s not.
2008 President
Obama (D): 1,037,291 – 57%
McCain (R): 738,475 – 40%
2008 Senate:
Ron Wyden (D)
Jeff Merkley (D)
2008 Congress
District 1: David Wu (D)
District 2: Greg Walden (R)
District 3: Earl Blumenauer (D)
District 4: Peter Defazio (D)
District 5: Kurt Schrader (D)
So that’s 1 out of 1 Democratic Presidents, 2 out of 2 Democratic Senators, and 4 out of 5 Democratic Congressmembers.
And Oregon trending Dem is nothing new; remember, we’re the hippies-and-spotted-owls-state. So what the hell are you trying to claim here? That the 2008 election is a huge victory for Republicans? Well, in that case, keep up the good work there, skippy! See ya next year!
August 29th, 2009 at 12:35 amTexas? Destroyer-of-text-books to the country? Wrongful-death-penalty capital, that Texas?
Yeah, I could lose them. We wouldn’t even have to change the flag when Puerto Rico becomes a state…
August 29th, 2009 at 12:36 amIt is getting close to breakfast time here. I hope I bump into some Portlanders soon…Chicken fried anything is bogus and that weird white gravy only belongs on bisquits…
August 29th, 2009 at 12:38 amOnly tonight, db. :)
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August 29th, 2009 at 12:41 amand again in the morning?
Is the outlaw on a vote down crime spree?
August 29th, 2009 at 12:43 amWow…what a bargain and without federal (US) support
August 29th, 2009 at 12:44 amhow long before the border with Mexico moves northward.
Twenty years and they’ll be gone….Bush’ll go to Paraguay,
and all the government (socialistic) payments to nearly 1/3 of Texans, will stop. It’ll be like Pakistan with better roads…..for now….bye
Lemme see…..was Texas in the original colonies…..nope
August 29th, 2009 at 12:46 amgo on ahead you guys….we’ll see you at the next OAS meeting.
C’iao
gummble-bee-itch says:
You really are from around here, aren’t you? Zell’s is the best, IMO. Dutch pancakes with seasonal fruit? Get out of my way!
Dude:
1) Genie’s bacon-infused-vodka Bloody Mary’s – and they do the best Benedicts in the world.
2) The Screen Door has the best Su’thun food North of … well North, anyways.
3) Pine Street Biscuits – get a “Reggie” to go (country-fried-steak biscuit sandwich with egg, bacon, cheese and country gravy) and be prepared to wait in line outside for 1/2 hour at least.
4) I live about 5 blocks behind the “Original Hotcake House,” where they do it all up old school.
I’m now going to hunt down Zell’s like it owes me money, thx.
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gummble-bee-itch says:
Still, we also rock in terms of cocktails; some of the best and most innovative bartenders in the country are working within a 1/2 mile or so, plus bonus, a bunch of microdistillers in even closer proximity.
1) Yeah, the craft (aka. pre-prohibition recipe) bartending scene is blowing up.
2) Hell, you can get at least 6 truly great regional beers at any conveniece store. Most of the big regional-to-national brewers (Henry’s, etc) are from around here anyway, and have been replaced by better stuff by now.
3) Get down to McMinville/Carlton some time for some mad wine tasting. Nowhere else in the U.S. can do a Pinot Noir like Oregon Vintners. Something about the mild climates.
I’d also like to add, for the Portland-deprived…
More strip clubs per capita than any other city in America.
Yes, you read that right.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:49 am3) Get down to McMinville/Carlton some time for some mad wine tasting. Nowhere else in the U.S. can do a Pinot Noir like Oregon Vintners. Something about the mild climates.
I’m helping a friend bottle on the 11th; he’s gotten his Pinot into a bunch of high end restaurants. Hopefully, he pays in bottles.
If you live behind the OHH, you live within walking distance of my workplace, and a five-minute drive from where I live. We used to go there at 2 am back when the wizened old women serving up the eggs and bacon had cigarettes dangling from the mouths. LONG time ago.
And I think you can take “per capita” out of the strip club thing; I’m pretty sure it’s more strip clubs than any city in the country. Period.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:55 amTexas has no right to secede. That was settled practically by the Civil War and legally by Texas v. White, which several commenters have cited. Rick Perry is pandering to the racist and radical righty element camped outside his office.
3. ElBruce sez:…
Texas has more nukes than anyone else. At Pantex, outside Amarillo. DOD just has the active stock in the field. DOE/Pantex has the reserve stuff, stuff being dismantled, stuff in for maintenance, all the obsolete units that haven’t been dismantled, etc and that’s a lot more warheads, bombs, and warshot units than are active. Of course, just because they’re physically in Texas doesn’t mean that Perry or any of those yoyos have access.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:57 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Maybe this is Bush’s retirement plan. I’m sure he has enough of our money to start his own country …….
August 29th, 2009 at 12:58 amAnd it would be a lot harder to extradite him for that war crimes thing…..
the petition link just looks like a page where they push propaganda and sell CD’s and coins. Looks like scammers to me.
Do they have any snake oil salesmen in tejas? Just kidding of course.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:02 amOutlaw284 you’re doing a lot of running your mouth about things you obviously don’t know anything about again.
Is you learning yet?
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Outlaw284 says:
gummble-bee-itch
You and LaBruce are truly stupid.
If the two of you want to say that the population of Oregon is only 1,775,766 then both of you have no clue about the state. Since the total number of people in the state is 3,559,596. Which means how may didn’t vote. Wow Less then half of the people in Oregon voted this last time. There is something for you to brag about to.
Oregon’s Final Voter Turnout Numbers: 85.67%
85.67% > “less than half”
We do mandatory mail-in ballot. If you knew a damn thing about this state, you would have double-checked before even trying to accuse us of low turnout. I put mine in a drop-box downtown, FYI.
Whatever state you live in, I’ll bet your turnout was lower. Hey, let’s try this – you quit telling me what you think my state is like and tell me instead, where exactly do you live, Outlaw284?
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Outlaw284 says:
gummble-bee-itch
You and LaBruce are truly stupid.
If the two of you want to say that the population of Oregon is only 1,775,766 then both of you have no clue about the state. Since the total number of people in the state is 3,559,596. Which means how may didn’t vote. Wow Less then half of the people in Oregon voted this last time. There is something for you to brag about to.
Wow. You do know that people under 18 cannot vote, right? And that those people are counted in the population? You really are astonishingly ignorant. Voting turnout in 2008 was 83% of registered voters, numbnuts.
Have you ever even been to Oregon? I’ve lived here, this time, for 25 years. I lived here in the late 1950s and again in the early 70s. You, on the other hand, appear never to have crossed the state line.
gummble-bee-itch
As to your totally stupid claim about the state not having any industry. What do you call the Timber Industry or the Fishing Industry or the farming or the wine. That state could survive with no problem without those citys and the people in them. So by all means keep bragging about what you think you know about the state of Oregon. Or should I say don’t know.
Timber and fishing is dead in Oregon, and has been for a long time. That’s the reason the economy has been so depressed in southern Oregon for decades, and why Congress had to create a special benefit to help out those counties which had been devastated by the loss of jobs.
The wine “industry” is healthy enough, but hardly sufficient to sustain an economy — and, for your information, it is focused on the Willamette Valley which is exactly the region you are so contemptuous of.
And why do you keep ignoring the information provide by ElBruce and myself about the state of the Democratic and Republican parties in this state? Oh, that’s right, because it doesn’t fit your fantasy about a state you know absolutely nothing about. Just like you’ve ignored the population map I linked to that should make clear, even to someone so deeply ignorant as yourself, that it’s a great big state and the majority of the population lives in just the region you keep claiming doesn’t matter.
Give it up and pretend you didn’t say anything at all about Oregon, because you truly have no frickin’ idea what you’re talking about.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:15 amVirtual Pebble says:
Texas has more nukes than anyone else. At Pantex, outside Amarillo. DOD just has the active stock in the field. DOE/Pantex has the reserve stuff, stuff being dismantled, stuff in for maintenance, all the obsolete units that haven’t been dismantled, etc and that’s a lot more warheads, bombs, and warshot units than are active. Of course, just because they’re physically in Texas doesn’t mean that Perry or any of those yoyos have access.
Precisely. Just because they’re physically located there doesn’t mean they control them. It just means they’ve got a much shorter flight path from launch to target.
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Outlaw284 says:
Yeah right Fred since I lived in Oregon for over 30 years I guess I wouldn’t know what I am talking about at all
Obvious lie. You’ve never set foot inside this state.
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Outlaw284 says:
Right now I am in Canyonville, OREGON
No, you’re not. Or else you would know that Oregon does mail-in ballots, and would be aware that Oregon voted overwhelmingly Democratic in the last cycle with a record turnout of registered voters. You’d also know about breakfasts.
Nice try though, Internet dude.
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Outlaw284 says:
ElBruce
Right now I am in Canyonville, OREGON
Canyonville has a population of something like 1500 people, right? Douglas County has a population of, what, 100,000? How can you live in that part of the state and be so completely ignorant about the condition of the timber industry? Did you just now get out of the slammer?
August 29th, 2009 at 1:19 amOutlaw284 says:
August 29th, 2009 at 12:58 am
Cuz every single person in OR is over the age of 18 and eligible to vote.
Sheesh…
August 29th, 2009 at 1:20 amMy aunt moved to Oregon from California. She was all excited about the no state tax thing. But, the last time I talked to her she said there wasn’t enough money to keep the libraries open.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:20 amOutlaw284 says:
ElBruce
Right now I am in Canyonville, OREGON
It was an hour or two ago, that outvoted284 was chastising ElBruce for bragging he was from Oregon. Now he lives there?
WTF?
August 29th, 2009 at 1:21 amI think you’ve been caught in another lie. Are you like slappy, you just lie as easily as you breath because you have no consiense?
August 29th, 2009 at 1:21 amGeez-everyone has said all that needed to be said on this subject. Except – that as a condition of secession Bush is put in charge of the new country. I am sure he will do a great job of managing things.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:24 amokie dokie says:
My aunt moved to Oregon from California. She was all excited about the no state tax thing. But, the last time I talked to her she said there wasn’t enough money to keep the libraries open.
No sales tax, but there is an income tax. Thanks to tax “activists” — and the collapse of the timber industry (which appears to have escaped Outwitted284) — the southern part of the state has taken it in the shorts and have had trouble keeping libraries open. If Outwitted284 actually lives in the region, perhaps books aren’t all that critical, though. At least not to him.
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177. bitblt sez: … Remember the cost of “single women with children” to the Federal government is $281B/year. August 29th, 2009 at 12:08 am
bit, where did you get that number? I have a copy or two of Federal budget listings and there isn’t any category labeled “single women with children”, so just what did you use to cobble that number together? Or does it come from some other source?
August 29th, 2009 at 1:27 amIs there state income tax there?
August 29th, 2009 at 1:28 amOutlaw– since you siad you were in canyonville can you tell me wheather or not columbia helicopter is still flying logs out west of there?, i for get the name of the mill but i heard it closed down – is that true
August 29th, 2009 at 1:29 am*
#230,
you’re in the lower intestine
of a feverish dog.
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August 29th, 2009 at 1:31 amVirtual Pebble says:
177. bitblt sez: … Remember the cost of “single women with children” to the Federal government is $281B/year. August 29th, 2009 at 12:08 am
bit, where did you get that number?….
Does it matter where he got the number? If you call him on it, he will just make up another one.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:32 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Please secede. Pretty please. Then maybe we’ll be able to pass healthcare reform.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:33 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
all I have to say to you, gumble-bee-itch and ElBruce, is “quack”
(Go Ducks)
August 29th, 2009 at 1:34 amWell you had an opportunity to be the caretakers of the nation and you shat upon it. It is time for you to stop acting like spoiled children now.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:34 amokie dokie says:
My aunt moved to Oregon from California. She was all excited about the no state tax thing. But, the last time I talked to her she said there wasn’t enough money to keep the libraries open.
Oregon has no sales tax, but it does have a state income tax. More progressive, y’know. But we’ve got the 3rd highest unemployment ranking by state right now. Times are tough, here more so than in many places.
I’d be willing to throw the conservatives a bone and point out that the jacked extra income tax on bonus-style payouts is keeping this area from being the obvious internet-startup location that it otherwise would be. Sure, we’ve got a lot of linux development going on here, as well as Norton, but seeing as we’re located pretty evenly between Seattle and San Francisco, you’d think we’d be reaping a lot more tech industry than we are.
PS: I personally think it’s awesome how we’re turning this thread into a discussion of a far more interesting state than Tejas.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:35 amI guess I could do like outlaw and slappy and look at a map of Oregon to see if I can find a lake area that I might like to go fishing.
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#244,
take it somewhere else,
this ain’t e-harmony.
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August 29th, 2009 at 1:41 amHey, my aunt in Oregon is full Texan, but I try not to hold it against her.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:42 amKlamath falls looks like a good remote fishing area. I have friends in Redding who could supply the herbal necessities.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:42 amgummble-bee-itch says:
No sales tax, but there is an income tax. Thanks to tax “activists”
Coulda been worse. The “no tax activists” won big in Washington, instantly chopping car plate registration by 90%. Which in turn killed all bus service, and pretty much doomed most people who weren’t rich from being able to get anywhere.
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i aint you says:
SlappyBastinado — i like it better up in Kettle Falls the fishing and hunting up on Mingo Mt rocks, then party down in colville at night
Now yer talking. Isn’t it awesome that the lib’rals protected all that wilderness for ya?
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SlappyBastinado says:
No….thats why we, I live in Washington now, run across state lines when we buy a large ticket item to avoid Washington state tax (except on cars, they catch you at licensing time). Smokers run across the bridge to avoid tax on cigarettes ……they have drive up cig sales….so dam funny.
You know, I tried the Vancouver WA cross-the-border tax thing for a couple of years. In the long run it just wasn’t worth it, if only because Vancouver is a total sh!thole.
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Fred says:
I guess I could do like outlaw and slappy and look at a map of Oregon to see if I can find a lake area that I might like to go fishing.
There’s lots of nice ones. I don’t think they’ve taken Crater Lake yet. Become an Internet Oregonian today!
August 29th, 2009 at 1:43 amThe Columbia has been hot all season…..
not to sure about this though…….
http://www.tdn.com/articles/2009/08/29/this_day/doc4a970f7ae6e7a044897673.txt
August 29th, 2009 at 1:44 amMy cousin fishes in the Rogue River. Mmmmmm…salmon……
August 29th, 2009 at 1:45 amI think Outhouse is bitter.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:47 amOK Texas here’s what you lose by leaving the United States:
1) You own almost no oil or gas. The rights to almost all of your natural resources were sold to international conglomerates. Any attack on pipelines or infrastructure would be considered an act of war.
2) You have no currency, and nothing to back it with (see item #1). The federal reserve in Fort Worth? Gone.
3) You have no military. All the military bases and equipment (and federal funding dollars) will leave. NO more NASA, military contractors or colleges.
4) You will have no diplomatic relations on this continent. You are not part of NAFTA, the WTO, and are not recognized by the United Nations. No country will do business with you nor extend you a line of credit because you have nothing of value to back it up with. So, no international trade.
5) You will have no telephone or internet access. How many satellites does Texas own? ANYTHING that connects you to the other lower 47 is now severed.
6) You will have no electricity since most of your electricity is generated by coal which would have to be imported from the United States.
7) All the corporations whose headquarters are currently located in Texas will have to leave, such as General Motors and Bell Helicopter. Along with their equipment. And those jobs.
8) You will be responsible for defending your own borders. So good luck with that.
Stop acting like five year olds or we will give you what you want. Lord Jesus, please forgive me, but I hate stupid people.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:47 amAll this makes me want to move back to Oregon…
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Outlaw284 says:
Maybe you should look up how many people in the state of Oregon are registered to vote. To help you out there are only 78% of the people in the state that are legal to vote that are registered.
Only 78% of eligible voters registered to vote in this state? O noe! Tell me O wise one, how many other states did better? 3? 4?
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Outlaw284 says:
That is why a lot of the fishermen go to alaska and fish as well as fishing when they can off the Oregon coast. A lot of the smaller mills closed but the bigger ones are still going. And since Douglas County is known as the Timber Capital of the country I guess you wouldn’t know that with you being from one of those big cities. I noticed you didn’t say anything about the farming either. Lets see eastern oregon started the the comercial dry wheat farming. But no I don’t know anything about Oregon. Lets see weyerhauser is still in oregon in a lot of areas since they bought out georga pacific, champian left oregon long before the spotted owl crap. Roseburg lumber is still going strong in many different towns. Not to mention mills like Lonestar, Glide lumber, Keller lumber…
Does this sound to anybody else like a synopsis of something off of Wikipedia? Or is it just me?
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Outlaw284 says:
Well Yeah I don’t I don’t know crap about those liberal hippie towns that keep trying to get the same laws like california has passed.
An Oregonian “doesn’t know crap” about Portland, the only real city in the state, which pretty much determines everything. Yeah…
August 29th, 2009 at 1:49 amOutlaw284 says:
So by all means please move your sorry sad sack butts out of Oregon. It would be a better place without you.
Naw, because then you wouldn’t have anyone paying into the welfare you’re undoubtedly counting on.
Your ignorance about the state is laughable.
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Outlaw284 says:
Whats wrong LaBruce you can’t support your clam about me not knowing anything about the state of Oregon. Do you even know where Canyonville is. Here I will help you out. It is real close to Riddle, Myrtle Creek, Tri City, Glendale. Not to far from Roseburg.
Oh crap, Outlaw found Google Maps.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:52 amOuthouse forgot Drain.
He sounds like someone from Drain.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:52 amYou always know when he’s losing it. He starts calling everyone that crosses him “stupid”
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I keep coming back to this:
Outlaw284 says:
ElBruce says:
I’m from Oregon.
Well now there is a state to brag about. The state that refused Barbara Wagner, a 64-year-old Oregon woman, the cancer medicine that she needed to fight cancer. Oregon Health Plan wouldn’t pay for it but it would pay for drugs for a physician-assisted death.
Yup that is a state that I would brag about being from. By the way the only part of that state that is Democratic is Portland, Salem, and Eugene-Springfield. and that is getting to be questionable.
But yeah the state that has the health care plan like Obama wants.
GO OREGON Keep killing them off. Right ElBruce.
August 28th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
And now he’s claiming to actually live in Oregon? Who the hell refers to the state he lives in as “that state”?
The ability to wiki a town in Oregon, and find nearby towns on a map, does not equate to actually living in “that state”.
Give it up, troll. No one is fooled.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:55 amyou could not protect your livestock against what? Butchering?
A good shepard would be sleeping with his livestock to keep the varmits at bay.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:57 ami aint you says:
you libs tried to shut it down back in 92-95– and also tried to tell we could not protect our live stock in Adams county. what are you talking about?
Nope, that was conservatives. The fact that it’s all still there demonstrates that libs were looking out for ya. If the wingnuts had got to it, there’d be nothing left there now.
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SlappyBastinado says:
i aint you says:
I know, I know in Washington it’s West side and the Inland Empire…Oregon it’s Eastern Oregon and what ever else the name is today for the west side…
I just call the West side “Oregon” and ignore the rest. Works out OK.
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#274,
let us know when
you learn how.
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August 29th, 2009 at 2:04 amHey, Fred.
What part of OK do you live?
August 29th, 2009 at 2:05 am267. Zooey sez: … Drain… Glenwood. Stuck between Springfield and Eugene, with no way out, except the river on one side and I-5 on the other.
Drain never looked all that bad to me, but then I’ve only driven through it, never stopped for a close look. Always liked the name though; almost as good as Camas Swale.
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#278,
drunken meanderings.
interesting.
:)
August 29th, 2009 at 2:08 amWho gives a shi* where your from outlaw as long as you depart with Texas when it goes.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:10 amMy point exactly, Outhouse.
Geez, you’re dense.
Enjoying your Google tour of Oregon?
August 29th, 2009 at 2:11 amI see outlaw has to do some more research before he try’s to prove he’s from somewhere he’s not.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:14 amHi Joe,
Looks like I’ve come in at the end of things (as usual you’ve already done all the heavy lifting).
August 29th, 2009 at 2:16 am***
rich,
let him sleep it off.
:|
August 29th, 2009 at 2:16 amWhen one state makes war on another, all previous agreements and treaties are nullified.
When one state surrenders to another after making war, they cannot, they do not, expect prior treaties to be upheld. That’s what it means to surrender.
When Texas surrendered to the United States, all previous treaties were voided. Texas has no more “right to secede” due to a previous treaty with the United States than does Germany have to the Sudetenland because of a prior treaty with Czechoslovakia.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:16 amI was just thinking, why would some redneck pretend to be from Oregon? Just to “prove” a point?
Doesn’t really make any sense. That would be like me pretending I’m from Texas because I’d like to impersonate some racist butt fuc*in stupid cracker.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:20 amOutlaw284 says:
I am sorry that you don’t know anything about the southern part of the state you live in…
I didn’t say I didn’t know anything about it. SW OR is a weird patchwork of super-hippy liberal vs. ex-logger conservative. Talk about your clash of extremes! I mean, the Baghwan set up shop there. There’s honest-to-God hippie communes down there to this day, relics of the 60’s who migrated North from Cali. The Ashland Shakespeare Festival. “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” was based in Salem. Seriously, to try to characterize that whole area as being politically – anything – would be sheer insanity.
Or the sort of thing that a poser with Internet access would try to do… although why is beyond me.
But Portland’s politics still dominate the state, which is the original point you were trying to discredit, and which you have failed to do.
Look dude, if I lived in Texas, even if I was in Austin, I’d admit on the Internet that the state as a whole went in a political direction that I disagreed with. I wouldn’t try to convince conservatives that Texas was really liberal.
You’re trying to do the reverse of that. And frankly, it’s a really, really retarded thing to do.
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Probably not, after all it looks like it took you 15 minutes to look it all up.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:24 am286. Rich H sez: … I was just thinking, why would some redneck…
Wrong move, Rich. Thinking when dealing with ‘necks will just give you a headache. Thinking when dealing with outlawn will give you a headache with a really big ‘excedrin’ number.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:25 amI dunno if it has been covered already, but… Texas CAN’T secede from the union. We (I’m a life-long Texan) gave up that option after the Civil War in order to get back in. The only thing Texas CAN do is… divide itself into five states where we’d have ten senators. Here’s the pertinent page from the Texas State Historical Association…
August 29th, 2009 at 2:25 amScroll down and begin reading at the fifth paragraph.
Outlaw284 says:
The only troll here when it comes to the places that I listed is you. You want to know where everyone fo those mills is located. Or how to get to those places. I don’t need a map to tell you. In fact this isn’t on a map. Cow Creek Indian Casino…
Sorry, but you’re being really vague. If you could supply some more specific details, I might consider believing you. As it is, it still really looks like you’re copy/pasting from whatever you found in your latest Google search.
I bet you’re a Californian. You sound like a Californian to me.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:25 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
ElBruce,
I’m from CA by way of Boston and NY. Yeah, he could be californian.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:28 amSo interesting….
Usually people who think they have nothing to prove don’t try so hard.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:28 amHi Zooey,
it is an interesting patchwork of information. Like I’d know the names of the people who owned this and that in my home town, and who they sold it to, then rattle off the presumably correct names of all the businesses. I lived there for 30 years and I’d probably get half of it wrong.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:33 amElBruce says:
Outlaw284 says:
The only troll here when it comes to the places that I listed is you…
I bet you’re a Californian. You sound like a Californian to me.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:25 am
August 29th, 2009 at 2:34 am~~~~
Hey, we don’t want him – or lay any claim to him. Then again – checking Google could keep him very busy for a long time as CA is a large state.
Alantcd says:
I dunno if it has been covered already, but… Texas CAN’T secede from the union. We (I’m a life-long Texan) gave up that option after the Civil War in order to get back in. The only thing Texas CAN do is… divide itself into five states where we’d have ten senators.
Actually, you don’t even have that option any more. We took you back by force. No special rules apply any more.
If there were any rules governing the secession of any state, they’d be listed in the U.S. Constitution. And the U.S. Constitution has no such rules.
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Outlaw284 says:
There are more people in those two towns that vote then the rest of the state. So to say that because Portland and Salem are Democrat the whole state is is wrong.
You lost. Just admit it. It doesn’t matter how many square miles you control. All that matters is how many citizens you are. That’s democracy.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:35 amElBruce says:
I bet you’re a Californian. You sound like a Californian to me.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:25 am
Now you’ll get him started on a tour of CA. From Eureka, to Mount Shasta, Castle Crags, the Central Valley, to Sacramento, the the Bay area, ping ponging around Oakland, Berkeley, San Leandro, Hayward, and down to San Jose, on to Fresno……
August 29th, 2009 at 2:37 amHey, Rich.
Yeah, too much information is a dead giveaway. :-D
August 29th, 2009 at 2:40 amGoodnight, all.
I wonder where Outhouse will be from tomorrow…?
*yawn*
August 29th, 2009 at 2:40 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
That’s good, Outhouse.
As a CA native, I think I speak for the rest of the state when I say you aren’t wanted.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:42 amGoodnight as well,
This outlaw guy is way too boring.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:43 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
The problem with you Outhouse, is that you probably haven’t lived in very many places. It limits your world view.
BTW, I live in a town of 21,000.
Toodles.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:47 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Anyone who doesn’t know anyone in a big city they’ve lived in for awhile has problems other than living in a big city. If you want to be truly isolated, move into a small town where you are a stranger, an outsider, and don’t “fit in” with all those “folks” who “know everybody”. Conceits of the little pond are kind of interesting, but not very.
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Hey Zooey, your California tour skipped around me. Whatsup with that?
wiley is right. The myth that everyone likes everyone in a small town is false. Many leave small towns because there is little or no tolerance of those different from the norm. Homosexual, left of center, not religious, not married, anti-war, Iranian, etc.
Anyone who thinks Obama us proposing Marxism is pretty ignorant! What do they call the 100 in the House or the tens of millions of Americans who are to left of Obama?
August 29th, 2009 at 3:13 amus=is
August 29th, 2009 at 3:15 amMany leave small towns because there are no j.o.b.s.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:22 ami aint you says:
your right la bruce your right there is no law that says they can but at the same time there is not any that says they can’t either. there in lays the problem at hand
Not how rules systems work. Example: Let’s say you and I are playing chess. And just as I’m about to make a move, I instead pull out a stiletto and stab it between your 3rd and 4th rib. As you’re laying there bleeding out, I point out that the official rules of chess don’t say anything about mid-game assassination. So does that mean I win?
No. If there’s no process described for secession, then there’s no secession.
However, the last time we had a dispute about just this issue, we settled it “the old fashioned way.” If you’d like to try that again, us Nawthuhnuhs would be more than happy to oblige you with a little reminder.
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i aint you says:
…but on close and contextual examination, it actually exposes the unconstitutional, despotic, and tyrannical agenda that presumes to award the federal government, under color of law, sovereignty over the people and the states
… also known as “the Constitution of the United States of America,” traitor.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:38 amElBruce said…
Actually, you don’t even have that option any more. We took you back by force. No special rules apply any more.
I think we were both wrong. The U.S. Congress TRIED several different plans to divide Texas but all came to naught. It wasn’t TEXANS trying, but it looks like any plan would have to pass The Texas State Legistlature as well. Since no plan ever came to pass, I guess Texas can’t divide. Here’s the page (it’s a searchable data base online)…
August 29th, 2009 at 3:48 amDivision of Texas
Now that’s truly rude. Why do you hate California so much you’d want to pin this gasbag on us?
August 29th, 2009 at 3:52 amI’ve lived in Ausitn, TX, for many years, and want to assure you that most Texans are perfectly lovely people. The traitors are a distinct minority.
Kingdom of the Democrats
August 29th, 2009 at 5:26 amWill Texas be considered an ally or a hostile nation? Will there be an embargo? Will we sell them arms to shoot at us?
August 29th, 2009 at 5:54 amBusiness is business after all.
I forgot, will they make a peace treaty with Goldman Sachs?
August 29th, 2009 at 5:55 amHey Texas, don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Oh, and could you be so kind as to take Georgia, Oklahoma, Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina with you. Thanks so much.
August 29th, 2009 at 7:03 amHow big of a deal can this be? Not one word about it in the Houston paper today.
Fact is, not all Texans are as crazy as these people. Our secessionist in chief Governor only got 39% of the vote last time around, and surely some of even those people are smart enough not to want to re-fight the Civil War. If war does come, I hope Rick Perry is right up front, leading the charge against Ft. Hood. With that hair, he ought to be an easy target.
August 29th, 2009 at 7:08 amWhat a bunch of dumb arses. The Declaration of Independence is NOT a legal document. Besides, the capital offices are closed on weekends.
August 29th, 2009 at 7:44 amLet’em go!
August 29th, 2009 at 7:53 amTo sum this up: “If we don’t get our way then we are going to try and succeed from the union.”
I have a feeling that if they try that then they will quickly realize how few people actually support their position.
August 29th, 2009 at 8:08 amI think this could be the solution to all our problems. Let’s say we give every Neo-Con, Guns-God-Anti-gay weirdo one week to move to Texas and then we build a fence to keep them out and then let them have their way.
How soon would it be before they were begging to come back and how soon would Mexico start building their own fence?
August 29th, 2009 at 8:21 amWell now, this whole secession stuff is naturally a bunch of hoory, but if I were a republican (and I am NOT), then I would get down on my knees and pray that TX never secedes, for without TX, the GOP would not even have a rat’s chance in hell of winning a GE in the next 100 years. Without TX’s soon to be 38-38 Electors, the GOP is sunk.
August 29th, 2009 at 8:30 amWow…my wife and I go out for dinner last and this crazy stuff happens.
I live in Texas, so if this actually happens (very unlikely) let me and the rest of the sane people enough time to leave. Then invite ALL the OTHER crazies from around the country in…then we nuke it.
August 29th, 2009 at 8:32 amPotential advantages of Texas’ secession:
We could refuse a visa to George W. Bush when he shows up at the border waving his Texas passport around.
They might take the whole Republican Party with them.
We could gather around their border to listen to them sing their national anthem, “Don’t Fence Me In, Please”.
The problem is the authenticity of the signatures on the petition. I’m given to understand that the petition consists of 75 signatures and 999,925 unwitnessed X’s.
August 29th, 2009 at 8:39 amAnother problem with the petitions:
the 75 signatures came from outside of Texas.
August 29th, 2009 at 8:41 amDon’t mess with Texas? Texas is a mess! Can we “Berlin Airlift” the good folks of Austin? The next hurricane should be an adventure, too.
August 29th, 2009 at 9:10 amDon’t let the door hit you in the ass …
August 29th, 2009 at 9:12 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I say just let them go. They will realize they can’t run their “new country” on the basis of bloated ego and big hair and they’ll crawl back – like prodigal sons/daughters.
I have family there that are pretty liberal, many people there are. I hope they get to leave before the crazies take over.
August 29th, 2009 at 9:55 amSorry y’all live in a big city and don’t know anyone in it. Guess that is the difference between big cities and small towns.
— why is the wannabe outlaw always wrong? My town doesn’t even have a traffic light. Well unless you count that blinking yellow on the outskirts of town. I that successful outlaws were brighter…
August 29th, 2009 at 10:05 amto ljm:
there are plenty of good liberals and progressives throughout TX, not just the “good folks of Austin”. let’s hope we could get all of them out of there. Hey! we could let all of those the want to pro-secession (ie) Mr. Sarah Palin et al, all move to TX and get rid of them at the same time. Ah! Heaven on Earth!
August 29th, 2009 at 10:05 amWith apologies to all the good progressive Texans (and I know there are plenty of y’all) I gotta say texas is just more trouble than it’s worth. If they want to secede, let ‘em.
Even if the effort fails, the Texas teabaggers will never again be allowed to claim that they love their country.
August 29th, 2009 at 10:14 ammorning ralph
August 29th, 2009 at 10:19 amRaining?
Not raining where I am, dbadass. In fact we’ve got record heat.
August 29th, 2009 at 10:48 amSo, 1/25 the population of Texas wants to go on their own. I don’t like their chances.
But you’ve gotta love their chances of being slaughtered.
August 29th, 2009 at 10:58 amMaybe if you mix your record heat with my tropical depression formerly known as tropical storm formerly known as hurricane…
August 29th, 2009 at 11:05 am***
today’s the day!
Time: August 29, 2009 from 11am to 12:30pm
Location: South Capital Steps in Austin, TX
Organized By: Gerry Donaldson
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don’t forget to fire a shot at fort sumter.
. . .
August 29th, 2009 at 11:10 amThe second civil war will be of a guerilla nature. Considering your army can’t even pacify the Sunni Triangle in Iraq, what chance do you think you have against a much larger population spread out across the entire southern US?
Oh, puleeze! Cut them off from their football, liquor, and store-bought food, and it’s over in a month. This ain’t 1860, boss.
August 29th, 2009 at 11:14 amAs many have pointed out, Texas is turning blue.
These are just localized teabaggers trying to get attention and they have nothing so they have gone negative.
August 29th, 2009 at 11:46 amWill Texas be considered an ally or a hostile nation? Will there be an embargo? Will we sell them arms to shoot at us?
Business is business after all. — Druthers
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I stand by what I said in an earlier post — if Texas secedes, they ought to be regarded and treated as a hostile nation (or at the very least, a neutral nation). After all, the whole issue of secession supposedly revolves around their hatred for the U.S. government and their desire to turn their backs upon it — how much more clear does it need to be that this would not be a nation that we could really consider an ally (certainly not at first)? As I said before, it’s one thing for most foreign countries to request aid or trade agreements from the United States — quite another, in my opinion, for a nation of people who chose to deliberately reject and dissociate themselves from the United States to do so. Business is business, yes…but why reward people for biting the hand which used to help feed them? I know, I know — it’s not as if we’ve never done it before — but it almost always proves to be more trouble than it’s worth.
Consider another historical precedent apart from the Civil War. The United States and the United Kingdom technically shared borders for several decades following the Revolution — but even though we engaged in trade with them. we did not regard each other as allies. For one thing, we were also engaging in trade with Napoleonic France as we had every right to do — but the British were at war with the French, and they tried to prevent this. They were also concerned that the expansion of our merchant marine fleet might pose competition to their own maritime empire. As well as giving support to the Native Americans in their efforts to resist westward expansion by the United States, the British were also forcibly recruiting U.S. citizens into the Royal Navy (although to be fair, the Americans were welcoming Royal Navy deserters into the U.S. merchant marine fleet). Ironically and paradoxically, British and American relations improved in the aftermath of the War of 1812.
August 29th, 2009 at 11:47 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Good Lord, this kind of crap makes me ashamed to be a native Texan. Thank God for Austin. It’s the only place I would even consider living in this Godforsaken state. If it weren’t for my kids and my beloved Austin friends, I would be SO OUTTA HERE!
August 29th, 2009 at 12:04 pmUnfortunately,the U.S.allowed the leaders of the confederacy to go free.(except Jeff Davis ,Ithink)They should have hung ole Bobby Lee from a tree.Actually,not a smart thing to do at the time. Confederate flag=swastika
August 29th, 2009 at 12:08 pmStewtheScot
yes it is. I know it does’t fit your delustion but just google it fool.
texas turning blue
by the way, your link does not support your statemnent!!!
August 29th, 2009 at 12:08 pmMore lies. Tejas is a welfare state that takes in more federal money than it produces.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:09 pmStewie,
Whatever Texas is donating, we don’t want it.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:10 pm***
#345.
gerald celente.
:)
see you at the rally assho|e.
:)
August 29th, 2009 at 12:13 pmThe federal government is lawless and totally corrupt. Anybody remember the Soviet Union?
– Yes, Yes I do.Now would you like to defend your thesis or just talk some shit?
August 29th, 2009 at 12:14 pmRed States Feed at Federal Trough, Blue States Supply the Feed
August 29th, 2009 at 12:16 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
And Texas is not corrupt and lawful.Washington can thank Bush,Delay,Armey,etc.for showing how to be corrupted,big time.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:18 pmSure, I think the gop is dead. What’s your point?
August 29th, 2009 at 12:21 pmstewie, you can read can’t you?
GOP Losses Span Nearly All Demographic Groups
The gop is less popular than bush and you know how well he’s liked……
August 29th, 2009 at 12:23 pmLook partner, you aint going anywhere until we say so.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:24 pmFrom Wikipedia,
“Texas is a “tax donor state”; in 2005, for every dollar Texans paid to the federal government in federal income taxes, the state received approximately $0.94 in benefits.[140]”
Of course, someone may have more current information.
Also from Wiki,
“Texas had a gross state product (GSP) of $1.09 trillion, the second highest in the U.S.[137][138] Its GSP is comparable to the GDP of India or Canada which are ranked 12th and 11th worldwide. Texas’s economy is the third largest in the world of country subdivisions behind California and Tokyo Prefecture.”
We all know what happened to California, and Tokyo…
August 29th, 2009 at 12:27 pm^^^
#359,
check your calendar inbred,
this is 2009.
:)
see you at the rally, assho|e.
:)
August 29th, 2009 at 12:30 pmJoe,
August 29th, 2009 at 12:33 pmI will be there.
Stewthescot said that Texas would be bombed like Iraq,Afganistan,and soon tobe Iran.This would only come true if we put Bush-Cheney back in power.You remember those fellas,don’t you?You are either with us or against us.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:33 pmFirst of all, wiki is not a reliable source. If you were educated you would know that. Anyone can put data up there that can say anything.
second, even if we take it at face value, you are basically breaking even on that one point.
Let me ask you how much FEMA money texas has recieved comparitively? See, you can’t win this. There are many more examples that make your statement absurd.
Tejas can’t survive alone even if we allowed it. Mexico would annex you and you would be begging to get back into the USA.
You are a fool for even suggesting this and as I said before, you are just a crying cowboy. You don’t represent Texas. Texas is turning democratic and you are just a noisy minority.
sucks to be you.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:34 pmLike the U.S. Needs Texas. What a joke. Just take your welfare state and go. Take those new textbooks with you too, except you’ll be able to add new chapters on how Texas faced down the evil empire to it’s north.
If all the leech states would go away and all the corruption that came out of Texas went back to Texs then the U.S. would be in a much better position financially and morally.
Please, we don’t need you and sure as hell don’t want you.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:34 pmStewie, how are you going to keep your barely solvent economy running if you have no one to trade with? No federal roads, No air force or army, ect.
You expose just how ignorant you are.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:36 pmOutlaw284 says:
Well now there is a state to brag about. The state that refused Barbara Wagner, a 64-year-old Oregon woman, the cancer medicine that she needed to fight cancer. Oregon Health Plan wouldn’t pay for it but it would pay for drugs for a physician-assisted death.
Oh I see. You are one of those who support spending $100,000 in the last 6 months of someone’s life when there is no hope for recovery.
My daughter’s mother-in-law died of ovarian cancer. There was no hope for her. But in the last six months of her life her doctors ordered over $50,000 in tests and treatments even though they knew she would die any day. And now the health care providers are coming after my daughter and son-in-law to pay the unpaid portions of those bills, even though they had nothing to do with incurring the bills. This woman never got around to end-of-life counseling and didn’t have a living will. That made it impossible for my daughter and her husband to refuse these treatments and test.
Oh, BTW, her physician was part owner in the facility she was in and the lab that did all the testing. Talk about a conflict of interest.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:38 pm***
#361,
your fly’s down.
:|
August 29th, 2009 at 12:39 pmI will be there.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:51 pm—
Will you have learned how to defend a thesis by then or will you still just be talking shit?
If Texas is so great why do all those dipshit freestaters keep leaving for New Hampshire?
August 29th, 2009 at 12:54 pmJust think if Texas seceeded.All federal agencies would leave.No U.S.military bases,NSA gone. Then Texas could negotiate with Mexico in reuniting with them–either by force or negotiations. You see,if Texas hasn’t forgotten the Civil War,the Mexicans haven’t forgotten aabout the land they lost in 1846. Don’t be telling us aboutTexas being so wealthy without including all the federal agencies that they would lose.By the way ,Texas would be the wealthiest state in Mexico.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:54 pmAs a Texas resident, I would just like to say… Not all of us are such idiots. I swear. I’m still in shock that they have one million signatures!
August 29th, 2009 at 12:57 pm***
the “rally” has been going on for an
hour now. any news reports or videos yet?
:)
August 29th, 2009 at 12:58 pmDon’t they still believe slavery is legal in Texas? Isn’t Texas where your still allowed to have sex with under aged children if their part of your family?
August 29th, 2009 at 1:00 pmLot’s of right wing bigoted and sick extremists running around that part of the country. Must be the inbreeding…
I live in Okla and I agree with you. They are just a vocal minority. They say they have 1 million sigs but where is the evidence that it is true?
Americans at large know that Texas is not as stupid as the loudmouths. It used to be a democratic stronghold and looks to be retuning to that status again.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:04 pm***
#373, don’t off the deep end.
#371 seems like a nice guy.
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#371, any news reports where
you are? is texas still part of the union?
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August 29th, 2009 at 1:05 pmthe new country of Mexas.It has a nice ring to it.Of course we would have to build a wall around Mexas-no illegals allowed. The Mexas Cowboys could form the MFL.Only 3 USplayers would be allowed per team.I’m sure that Jerry Jones would welcome that.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:06 pm***
checked their meetup site.
nineteen proud texans have
promised to be there.
:|
stewthescot did not rsvp’d.
:)
August 29th, 2009 at 1:08 pmTo Texas residents .This is a truly stupid argument. The nitwits truly put your state in a bad light.Unforunately, such ridiculous drivel is what passes for news these days. One million signatures? Baloney.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:14 pmin case Texans forgot what happened the last time they seceded, let me remind them; you got your asses handed to you.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:16 pmjoe cantwell says:
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hey joe i was being fictitious, framing insanity with the wingnuts. there are great people everywhere and we do have our fair share of nut jobs here in California.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:18 pmI seriously doubt the veracity of their claim to have 1 million signatures.
I checked Alexa and Website Outlook; Drawaline’s home page barely has any traffic and averages 267 visitors a day.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:20 pmwebsiteoutlook
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#380,
yes that’s true,
except for the upper peninsula.
they’re a bunch of crazy penguins.
:|
August 29th, 2009 at 1:22 pm***
#381,
i can’t understand why,
gerry donaldson is a very
charismatic guy and one
millions signatures is a lot.
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August 29th, 2009 at 1:27 pm***
millions = million
:)
August 29th, 2009 at 1:32 pm______
Rich H says:
If all the leech states would go away and all the corruption that came out of Texas went back to Texs then the U.S. would be in a much better position financially and morally.
August 29th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
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Blue States: Ready for a Less Progressive TaxCode?
“Spending does lean red, but the reason is demographic, not political. Most federal money is spent on retirees, especially Social Security and Medicare. And of course the elderly have been moving south and west for years. Every large blue state saw its elderly population depleted during the late 1990s. As might be expected, red Florida and Arizona took in many of the elderly, but they weren’t alone. Almost every Mountain and Southern state expanded its elderly population.”
“Despite the red dominance of retirement destinations, the spending tilt toward red states isn’t extreme. The ten states where Uncle Sam spent the least money per capita in 2003 include three solid reds — Utah, Georgia and Indiana; two solid blues – New Jersey and Illinois; and five battleground states — one barely red, Nevada and four barely blue, New Hampshire, Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin.”
“Which brings us to the real culprit: high blue-state income taxes.
States with the highest incomes per capita — and they’re all solid blue — pay much higher federal taxes per capita. An income of $132,000 in San Francisco buys the same standard of living as $71,000 in Phoenix, but when it’s time to fill out the 1040, the San Francisco family pays 17.3 percent of its income in federal income taxes. That’s $22,812, almost triple the national median. Meanwhile, the Phoenix family pays $7,576, about $400 less than the median. A similar comparison could be drawn of Boston and Atlanta, not to mention New York and almost anywhere.”
http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/75.html
The foolishness of the secession idea aside, surely you don’t fault red states for their elderly residents or for blue state’s high tax rates?
August 29th, 2009 at 1:38 pmUpright Left,
Of course not. I don’t mind paying taxes. And I don’t mind when they are used for the common good. I was responding to a poster who said Texas was a “donor” state. That doesn’t jibe with any stat I’ve seen.
It just seems that alot of the right wing crazies are hiding their racism with calls of “not with my tax money.” I hear it all the time – I wish my money wasn’t used for illegal wars – and that it was used to prosecute the criminals who brought them upon us.
See, it’s just part of being in the U.S., we should all share the rewards and the burden. These crazies just don’t get it.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:45 pmupright left, I read your entire diatribe and I have no idea what the hell you are trying to say.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:46 pmby the way upright, your stats are incorrect.
Red States Feed at Federal Trough, Blue States Supply the Feed
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html
August 29th, 2009 at 1:49 pmAnd whats up with states that don’t collect income tax? Don’t they draw more heavily upon the federal government for aid? That would mean my tax dollars go to support to racist rubes in Florida. Geez, I can’t have that, maybe I’ll start a secession movement.
August 29th, 2009 at 1:53 pmThe website shows pictures from a previous rally on the steps of the capitol, with a tag line something like “surrounding the Austin statehouse” and only THREE people are visible in the picture, one at the podium, two sitting in folding chairs behind. If that is what they call surrounding, they have some serious problems…
August 29th, 2009 at 1:56 pmI would love to know if ANYONE turns up for this line in the sand, being washed away by the wave of apathy…
Ok, Let them.
Drop all the Texas seniors from Medicare and Social Security and any other Federal programs they are currently enjoying.
Let’s see how many still want succession.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:03 pmWe can make a deal if they’ll just take Harry Reid when they go.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:20 pmHave I mentioned that tax whinners bum me out…
August 29th, 2009 at 2:22 pmDon’t all right wingers whine about taxes?
August 29th, 2009 at 2:30 pmthe Tenthers are obviously part of the Know Nothing Party.
I live in Texas and don’t hear a lot about Secession in conversation with people. There is a vocal minority here that seems to be on the wingnut end of the spectrum. They think (if it can be so called) Secession is a legal, viable option; but it isn’t.
Texas v White
Select quotes
“When Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States.
“…The obligations of the State, as a member of the Union …remained perfect and unimpaired. …the State did not cease to be a State, nor her citizens to be citizens of the Union.
“…Our conclusion therefore is, that Texas continued to be a State, and a State of the Union.”
August 29th, 2009 at 2:32 pm— Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700, 703 (1868)
The Politics of Jesus OR What Would Jesus Do In America Today?
FSM, that’s hilarious.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:36 pmI got to the rally a few minutes after 11AM and left just after noon. To say that there were 150 secessionists their might be generous. When you include the DPS, tourists strolling the grounds and a few curious gawkers like myself, the number was near 200.
August 29th, 2009 at 2:50 pmAs you might expect, all of the speakers said roughly the same things- individuals have sovereign rights, states have sovereign rights, Obama is out to socialize and ruin the country, let’s end Texas’ association with the illegal federal government, roll back the state of law to 1780, etc. One amusing note…
A woman got up and said that she wasn’t a birther yet insisted that Obama was not an American. She didn’t care if he was born in Kenya, Canada or Hawaii… he still was not a citizen.’ I assume that particular nutter was one of the 7% who doesn’t realize that Hawaii is one of the United States.
Fred says:
by the way upright, your stats are incorrect.
Red States Feed at Federal Trough, Blue States Supply the Feed
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html
August 29th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
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Fred, I’m sorry about your comprehension problem. Now, did you actually not realize that the blog in your link gets it’s information from the Tax Foundation, the source of the information that you were unable to understand but disagree with? Or is the Tax Foundation only a valid source of information when you agree with it?
August 29th, 2009 at 2:51 pmupright left, then why did you misquote them?
August 29th, 2009 at 2:57 pmtojby,
Thanks for the update. Joe Cantwell posted a link yesterday where one of the organizers (I think) said the Lincoln forged his birth certificate too. I guess they just want to bring back slavery.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:00 pmI see my fingers don’t follow my mind when I haven’t had enough sleep. My apologies for all past, present and future typos.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:02 pmWell, I guess we could just strip the disloyal secessionists of their citizenship, deport them and be done with it.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:03 pmtojby_2000 says:
I got to the rally a few minutes after 11AM and left just after noon. To say that there were 150 secessionists their might be generous.
Thanks for the update.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:03 pmWow, they really do surround us.
;-)
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tojby,
thank you for your on the spot reporting…
was fox there to exaggerate the event?
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August 29th, 2009 at 3:07 pmHell YES!
August 29th, 2009 at 3:15 pmLet them succeed from the Union…cut off all of their social security, their medicaid and medicare…eliminate any assistance for the next “big hurricane” and let them fend for their sorry ass selves.
Let them “privatize”.
I hate to re-post something I have said before but…well…
REPLACE REPUBLICAN
WITH TEXAN
and you will get the ideal…
Ok let me get this straight.
If you’re a republican you’re against people of any other color except white.
If you’re a republican you’re against women…unless they are cooking you dinner.
If you’re a republican you’re against people of any sexual orientation except monogamist.
If you’re a republican you’re against any religion any where near schools , government or politics..UNLESS it is your brand of fundamental christian?
If you’re a republican you’re against any program or service that will assist, benefit or support individuals that are not republicans (or the filthy rich)
If you’re a republican you’re against supporting anything “Democratic” in government and believe that corporations should rule the masses rather than the masses dictate rules of conduct for the corporations?
If you’re a republican and currently in power, you would be in PRIVATE a Democratic obstructionist, fascist,racist,sexist,religious fanatic,Jingoist.
If you’re a republican not in power, you would rather be in PUBLIC a Democratic obstructionist, Fascist,racist,sexist,religious fanatic, Jingoist.
That about sum up the current (state of Texas politics?) republican party?
Why don’t you people change your name to the 4th Reich and give a little honesty to your party?
After all, you have already had your:
Hitler = Bush
Himmler = Cheney
Goebbels = Rove
And working on your second coming:
Hitler = Gingrich
Himmler=Scarborough
Goebbels=Limbaugh
THE “CURRENT” REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THEIR FOLLOWERS DO NOT REPRESENT MY VERSION OR VISION! OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
I really wish that you could see what you are doing to this country.
Divisiveness, Polarization, Acts of Violence rather than…
Religious tolerance, Personal equality, and most of all UNITY = the “Spirit of Hope” that is this country’s greatest asset!
May whatever God you believe in judge you all…soon….
August 29th, 2009 at 3:27 pm***
no need to apologize,
it’s worth repeating.
:)
August 29th, 2009 at 3:37 pmAnd another re-post for your viewing pleasure :P
Ok folks lets remove ALL military bases and equipment from Texas and lets not forget the Houston Space Center.
Oh and you can forget about Hurricane Relief…
And oh yeah! lets see…
MEDICAID (5th largest receiver in nation)
MEDICARE (5th largest receiver in nation)
WELFARE (3rd largest receiver in nation)
UNEMPLOYMENT Benefits ( LARGEST receiver in nation)
Federal Entitlements Program (4th largest in nation)
FEDERAL GRANTS PROGRAMS (The LARGEST receiver in nation)
FEDERAL LOAN PROGRAMS (4 largest receiver in nation)
A few of the business’s that will have to move out of the secessionist state IF they want to survive as United States based companies…
Macdonald-Douglas
Boeing
CISCO Systems
American Airlines
Alcatel
Dell
AT&T
Bell helicopters
DOW
EDS
HP
Nieman-Marcus
United Space Alliance
USAA
= 82% total State Revenue Providers…
10% State Revenue generated by government installations and personnel…
The other 8% is their total from their pitiful oil refining processing. Oil alone not gonna cut it fools…
PLEASE I AM BEGGING YOU TEXAS YOU LUNATIC FILLED PILE OF **** PLEASE GO INDEPENDENT…Take Rick Perry, George Bush, KKKarl Rove, I am Not a Dick Cheney, and the rest of the religious Right with you!
I REALLY DON’T WANT TO HEAR ANYMORE BULL**** ABOUT TEXAS OR IS IT TEJAAS secession.
Have fun teaching your kids about riding Dinosaurs…SNORT…
August 29th, 2009 at 3:46 pm——————–
I can’t believe that this thread has been running for a full eighteen hours!
I’m impressed.
I’m also impressed with the total stupidity of the teabaggers and secessionists. I must admit, I don’t have the stamina to keep up with the b.s. they smear when they come here.
I would think that they might have better things to do–eat, sleep, go outside and play on their swing-set…anything.
So it goes.
August 29th, 2009 at 3:53 pmThe worst few hours of my life were spent in Texas – so Texas has a special place in my heart.
I love reading these posts, especially those that defend that place. Don’t mess with Texas (laughable), that slogan was started because of all the trash the rednecks threw onto the side of the highway!! Not because they’re so tough.
Snicker.
August 29th, 2009 at 4:08 pm408. the Angry Republican sez: … Macdonald-Douglas …
Uh, hate to rain on your parade o’ relocatable businesses, but it isn’t Macdonald-Douglas; it’s McDonnell-Douglas, which was formed from the old McDonnell Aircraft Corp and Douglas Aircraft Corp back in the 60s (or close by, and I did NOT intend a pun by “old McDonnell”), and is occasionally referred to as MD, because of their MD-80 and MD-90 airliners. It’s also referred to as “Boeing”, because Boeing bought McDonnell-Douglas in the mid 90s.
Boeing, and hence MD, doesn’t have to relocate if TX seceeds; Boeing isn’t headquartered there. Boeing corporate HQ is in Chicago, and the MD product line HQ is still in St. Louis.
All they’d have to do is pull the plug on their facilities in the state, unless they want to do a deal with the Tejanos new federal masters in Mexico DF. I think Lockheed-Martin has more of a problem because I believe their General Dynamics division is still headquartered in Ft. Worth.
Same thing is true for a few others on the list. They may have major facilities in TX, but they aren’t incorporated there nor headquartered there. Dell has a problem; they’re still centered in Round Rock.
Of course, if there’s a Douglas TX and there’s a Mickie Dee’s there, they might have to change their menu to TexMex & Spanglish from Low Texas PsuedoEnglish. But they don’t have to move.
August 29th, 2009 at 4:23 pmWow so because a bunch of lunatics want to do this you all generalize what ALL Texans want? There ARE people in Texas who are not wingnuts who are “liberal” or “progressives”.
For a site that reports these things, I find it funny that everyone wants Texas to leave because you know, all Texans agree with this “Texas Nationalist Movement”. Way to give hope to all the far left people who do exist in traditionally right-wing states. Bravo.
August 29th, 2009 at 4:28 pm410. Rich H sez: The worst few hours of my life were spent in Texas …
That’s too bad, Rich, but I empathize.
I’d have to say that some of the best moments of my life were spent in TX. The first one, which I don’t remember, was when I was born, and the second one, also not recalled, was at age three when my parents relocated to northern NM. I’ve since spent a couple of years back in TX, in El Paso, but the general scuzziness of the place didn’t really effect me much because I spent most of my waking time at work. Been away from TX since 2002, back in northern NM, where the politics and the climate are somewhat more congenial.
August 29th, 2009 at 4:32 pmOuch I feel so dirrrrty now…
August 29th, 2009 at 4:32 pmTO BeeBee08,
Sorry it does seem I and others toss out blanket statements in response to “National news media” on Texas and their politicians…
My only excuse is that if all we see is the negative and no one from Texas is refuting these assertions loud and clear…then some of us…like me i’m guilty…have knee jerk reactions to the lack of reasoning and sanity behind all these reports.
With no dissenting voice we assume passive silence is akin to agreement with these inane assertions.
August 29th, 2009 at 4:39 pm412. beebee08 sez: Wow so because a bunch of lunatics want to do this you all generalize what ALL Texans want? …
I think it’s called hyperbole, BB, although there may be some who really wish that TX would go away. Most of us could probably do without the secessionist crazies, and maybe even some of us recognize that there’s more to TX than the crazies.
On the other hand, they are bizarrely entertaining and some of us are in states where there’s nothing quite so fracking publicly nutty. I just hope this silliness doesn’t spread to SE NM because I may be moving there shortly, and when Texas gets the drunken dizzies, ‘Little Texas’ gets the dry heaves.
August 29th, 2009 at 4:41 pmPerry isnt for secession, it would ruin his chances of becoming president. He is just throwing red meat to the base for votes just like Bachmann, Demint, Palin and others are to get them out to oppose ANYTHING.
August 29th, 2009 at 4:51 pmI find it funny that everyone wants Texas to leave because you know, all Texans agree with this “Texas Nationalist Movement”.
August 29th, 2009 at 4:52 pm—
seems you are making a generalized statement while complaining about generalized statements. What gives….
I live in Texas and you would have to go out and hunt for these people because they are such a minority here. Secession isnt going to happen.
August 29th, 2009 at 4:52 pmI dont let the redneck remarks bother me BB08, I just laugh at the stereotyping. Once when I was working in upstate New York people would ask me, because of my accent, if I had oil wells and rode horses around town.
Heh, I said yes, we had oil coming up out of the ground just like Jed Clamppet, had to be careful where you shoot.
August 29th, 2009 at 4:58 pmno word on this ‘event’ on any of the Austin media websites as yet. even on the radio station that uses Faux radio news and gives Rush three hours a day – surprising cos they were pushing it yesterday. Lloyd Doggett’s holding a MoveOn sponsored town hall as I type this, so I expect some news on disruptions sooner or later.
August 29th, 2009 at 5:12 pmI hope that secession happens.
Once and for all, we could finally rid ourselves of all the repiggie teabagger trash.
Let Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Alabama and Mississippi form their own holy roller theocracy, complete with their evangelical Sharia.
Quite frankly, I would be very happy to see the Mid-Atlantic and New England states form an independent nation, perhaps closely aligned with or part of the European Union.
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Fred says:
upright left, then why did you misquote them?
August 29th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
There’s no misquote, fred. It’s that darn comprehension thing giving you problems again.
August 29th, 2009 at 5:47 pm422. evangenital says: … I hope that secession happens. Once and for all, we could finally rid ourselves of all the repiggie teabagger trash. … August 29th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Good point, evangenital, but I wouldn’t get up on any high horse soon. I’m from the SW and we have a fair number of political crazies in this state, NM, and in every adjacent state, but the very first honest-to-god real deal righty crazy I ever met was in Mount Vernon NY. This was some years ago; guy was a Minute Man, not one of the present day border bozos, but the armed wing of the John Birch Society kind of Minute Men; guys like that went on to become survivalists and righty militia types.
Anyway, there are still wackos in the NE and Mid-Atlantic states, as evidenced by that ambush of police officers recently, plus that unconcealed carry business outside President Obama’s NH townhall, so throwing TX and the south out of the Union won’t really solve the problem. There are realistic solutions but I’m not inclined to spoil a venting session any more than I already have.
August 29th, 2009 at 5:47 pmWhat do you think we will have to do to go see our grandchildren ? Get a passport like we do when we fly down to Mexico are go to Europe on vacation to get into Texas.
August 29th, 2009 at 5:49 pmJames Tait, well I guess you have your reason too. We just deem it to be insanity. You must remember that there are really only a few of you……remember the alamo.
August 29th, 2009 at 5:50 pmHey James Tait..
Help me with a bet I have…
You sound like you’re from Texas and darn proud of it.
These questions should be easy…
1. How old is the Earth?
2. How old is the solar system?
3. Where do you go to buy chaps to go with the Dinosaurs you ride in Texas?
Thanks, your reply will help me with a little bet I have going.
August 29th, 2009 at 5:53 pmJames Tait says:
August 29th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
GTFO, Jim. And good luck.
The SCOTUS has already ruled on the illegality of secession, but you just keep on keepin’ on.
August 29th, 2009 at 5:56 pmVirtual Pebble,
I get your point on nuts being everywhere, but if enough of those nuts thought they’d have some kind of evangelical right wing shangri-la in Texas if Texas actually seceded and wanted to join them, that’d be fine with me.
August 29th, 2009 at 5:58 pmThe Angry Republican says:
1. How old is the Earth?
2. How old is the solar system?
3. Where do you go to buy chaps to go with the Dinosaurs you ride in Texas?
Thanks, your reply will help me with a little bet I have going.
August 29th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Oh goody…
August 29th, 2009 at 5:58 pmJames,
That’s right, Don’t Mess With Texas, no pick up all the shi* you rednecks have been throwing on the side of the road.
August 29th, 2009 at 5:59 pm426. grandma nancy says: What do you think we will have to do to go see our grandchildren ? Get a passport like we do when we fly down to Mexico are go to Europe on vacation to get into Texas. August 29th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Heh. NM will probably have passport inspection and immigration control stations on TX’s west side (our east side).
We’ve frequently been mistaken for being part of our sourthern neighbor so it won’t take us long to gear up for that. Since our state tourism department is frequently asked whether a passport or visa is required to visit NM, they’ll be mighty relieved to finally be able to say, “Yes, if you arrive from Texas.”
August 29th, 2009 at 6:00 pmHi James Tait
August 29th, 2009 at 6:01 pmWanna explore these ideas further?
When the economic and politically motivated immigrants from this half ass wannabee country wish to enter a real nation, I’ll bet lady liberty will welcome their sorry ass huddled masses…
August 29th, 2009 at 6:06 pmJames is busy calling his friends to help him post on this thread and give us hell.
But then he realized he didn’t have any.
August 29th, 2009 at 6:08 pmMy father-in-law, a Coloradan, had a favorite saying when a Texan stopped at his restaurant\gas station:
“If God had wanted Texans to ski, He would have made s**t white!” ‘Nuff said!
August 29th, 2009 at 6:10 pmWe could invite Mexico to reassert sovereignty over its rebellious northernmost state. But the Mexicans wouldn’t want to put up with the “tenther” idiots either.
August 29th, 2009 at 6:23 pm.
… Because nothing screams “PATIOTIC” like sucession, YES?
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August 29th, 2009 at 6:26 pmGood when are they going to leave? How much oil do they have within the boarders of TX? What would their economy be based on without the rest of the Union because I would want to cut all ties with them. I want to see how they respond to the next Natural disaster without Federal help. Please do leave and take that long boarder with Mx with you! Have fun watching the Cowboys, Spurs, and all the rest of your pro teams play each other as with your Universities which will also lose all those Federal research dollars. More for the rest of us. Good-by and Good ridden.
August 29th, 2009 at 7:13 pmStewtheScot says:
The federal government is lawless and totally corrupt.
By definition, it is lawful. I mean, it’s like made of laws and stuff. Your statement is kind of like saying “air is liquid.”
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StewtheScot says:
Anybody remember the Soviet Union?
Sure. But how is Texas like the Soviet Union? I’m curious to here whatever insanity you’ve got set up for this one…
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StewtheScot says:
“Texas is a “tax donor state”; in 2005, for every dollar Texans paid to the federal government in federal income taxes, the state received approximately $0.94 in benefits.[140]“
Right. And the following states have an even lower ratio: Oregon, Michigan, Washington, Wisconsin, Massachusetts, Colorado, New York, California, Delaware, Illinois, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Nevada, New Jersey.
So what’s your point? That Texas is merely the most selfish and unpatriotic?
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StewtheScot says:
We all know what happened to California, and Tokyo…
I have no idea what you’re talkin about. Japanese people live there? Earthquakes? What?
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James Tait says:
DON”T MESS WITH TEXAS!
I mess with Texas all the time. What are you going to do about it? Apparently nothing.
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James Tait says:
I fully support Texans rights to succeed from the Union if they choose.
I also support the right of individual Texans to “secede” by moving out of the U.S. to another country. But you’re leaving the land behind.
August 29th, 2009 at 8:06 pmWell to all those that commented on my comment, thanks. And as for the person who said I was generalizing myself…well I really hardly saw any comments that was actually neutral or tried to show any support for those of us who actually are not Republican/conservative wingers at all. I’ve actually seen these types of comments all over the place and I don’t mind stereotypes about us riding horses and what not, but to generalize that we all just don’t care about Rick Perry making these comments is a bit much. People who DON’T live in Texas aren’t the people that have to put up with bs legislation, one in particular that has come up stating that Cesar Chavez and MLK Jr and others are less important than Stephen F. Austin and people of the Bible. I say leave the Bible stuff for parochial schools and Sunday school, don’t put that stuff in history books. It’s bad enough I got a sub-par education that I had to teach myself on the side…But I digress with all my ranting. =/
August 29th, 2009 at 8:31 pmReally hardly…
August 29th, 2009 at 8:54 pmJames Tait 423 says:
“Texans are standing up! I wouldn’t get in their way either.”
Is that all 150 in the tenther parade, or do they have the moral backing of all those other X’s that preferred to stay out of the way?
August 29th, 2009 at 9:15 pmLook, its better to embrace the fundamentalists than argue with them, I think, because they are being funded by an unholy alliance of political and business interests.
So what if they believe what they do? They are being used, virgin political timber, because of their belief.
I embrace them. I know that the politicians will use them. Thats wrong. By chastising them its not helpful. My POV
August 29th, 2009 at 10:27 pmI as a moderate am willing to discuss all matters, religious or not, in the interest of denying greed control of our government.
August 29th, 2009 at 10:30 pmBrought to you by “The Family”?
August 29th, 2009 at 10:55 pmJames Tait says:
And when morons as stupid as YOU are for it that is a good indication that anyone with a functional cerebral cortex ought to be against it. You want to secede? Get a passport and get your ignorant worthless ass out of our good country. You are so stupid the collective IQ can only gain from a brainless inbred piece of garbage like YOU getting the hell OUT
August 30th, 2009 at 3:11 amXisithrus says:
Look, its better to embrace the fundamentalists than argue with them, I think, because they are being funded by an unholy alliance of political and business interests.
Jesus preached for the healing of the sick. Jesus preached about the decency of the poor. Jesus preached about the evil of the rich. Jesus was quite clear on the value of compassion vs. selfisheness. None of Christ’s teachings are in dispute on such matters.
Anyone who would call themselves “Christian” must align with the progressive agenda. If they do not, then they must know in their heart that Christ will judge them harshly upon their deaths.
August 30th, 2009 at 6:09 amThe Federal Government should close all Agencies and Bases in the state of Texas ASAP. Cut off all funding and Invade their Capital, just like Bush Invaded Iraq.
August 30th, 2009 at 10:12 amwiley says:
When a minority goes nuts in a country with an MSM that is sensational and lame as ours, it’s kind of hard to get the “we’re not insane” message out.
You nailed it.
August 30th, 2009 at 10:20 amIf it’s crazy, put it on.
If it’s sane, it’s not news.
El Bruce says:
Anyone who would call themselves “Christian” must align with the progressive agenda. If they do not, then they must know in their heart that Christ will judge them harshly upon their deaths.
August 30th, 2009 at 6:09 am
August 30th, 2009 at 10:33 am——-
That would be a true statement with a little modification. Something like: Christians must support some of the goals, though not necessarily the means, of the progressive agenda.
upright left, Do you just parse someones words because you simply can’t refute them? What you said in 452 makes not sense at all.
August 30th, 2009 at 11:28 amPlease, believe me… all Texans are not this stupid. This sort of thing is an embarrassment.
August 30th, 2009 at 12:38 pmWell, it’s Sunday and I havene’t heard anything about Texas withdrawing from the union.
They must be just a bunch of phony’s. All hat & no cattle.
I thought texans were supposed to be tough guys. Guess there are more progressives in texas than the tenthers thought……surprise!!!
August 30th, 2009 at 2:09 pmTHE NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT (2010-2050)
(THE DEMOGRAPHICS)
The fact of the matter is that the North American Continent between (2010-2050) will become a Demographically, Third World Country, that is simply the pure stated facts even excepted and stated by William “Bubba” Bill Jefferson Clinton. Now, since the discovery of the New World, along with establishing fact that the World was a Sphere, complete families have packed up lock, stock and barrel to move to wear they felt they had a chance for a better life for both themselves and the generations that were to follow them, often leaving everything, and everyone they knew and loved behind. Those areas which were once separate Republics or Territories chose to unite with others to become what they saw as the promise of a first rate if not the number one nation upon the face of the globe. But, Bigger has in fact turned out not to be better, and the map of the North American Continent will, as the map of Europe, change along with the demographics and decline of the Empire.
(THE MAP OF CHANGE / SECESSION)
It has come to the time when a collision between, the many groups under the umbrella, of the growing Take Back America Movement, and the Empire, will begin, bringing with it the Map of Change to the North American Continent. No, group or groups of peoples simply stands by as their standard of living and work that has been generation upon generation in the making goes down the drain, do to a failed system of government, but will either over throw that system or simply separate by Secession from it. Bigger has proven not to be better, and much like the Old World change will happen, Old Republics will once again be upon a new North American Map, The Republic of Alaska, The Republic of California, The Republic of Texas, The Confederate States of America, etc., and how that effects the present Global Community is financially, it is now the time to take steps to end the (Empire Dollar) based World Community of Nations, Economic Structure, Europeans understand this process, and have been thru it many time, the Former Soviet Republic of Georgia just one of the latest, and as with Vietnam the (U.S. Empire’s) is interfering in normal historic change, which will fail as will its Blood for Oil Wars upon the Islamic Crescent.
(A NEW ECONOMIC BASE CURRENCY TIME)
It has come time for the Worlds Economic Community to come to the common sense conclusion that nothing last forever and no Empire lasts forever, and based upon that, the single (Empire Based), currency is not in the best interests of the Worlds Economic Community of Nations, especially since that of the ( U.S. Empire) which will be a, Third World Currency, of a Third World County, if it still remains, in tack which as history has shown time and time again is very unlikely, when an Empire fall’s its like Humpty Dumpty, after his fall, all the King’s Horses and All The King’s Men, Couldn’t Put Humpty Dumpty, Back Together Again! The Empire is made up of (NYC/NYSE) New York City, The New York Stock Exchange (Wall St.), The (AIPAC/AZC) American Israel Public Affairs Committee/American Zionist Council, a (100K) One-hundred membership neo-conservative Jewish [LOBBYISTS GROUP] group, connected to various caucus members of influential members of the Empire’s pro-Israel lawmakers, and their hired hand (544/DC) Five-Hundred-Forty-Four, Dumb Democratic and Crooked Republican electorate who have not only forgotten who rules when it comes to a show down, between (Wall St., & The Beltway Vs Main St.), in today era these boys could be shown maps or globes, even be flown around this Blue Sphere, but view themselves as Gods, and the World Community is there oyster!!! And, the Republics and Terror ties which formed The United States of America will form the New North American Map.
COMMON SENSE DICTATES A NEW BASE LINE CURRENCY!!!
HERCULE TRIATHLON SAVINIEN
August 30th, 2009 at 3:12 pmgot conspiracy there, Triathlon?
What the heck does that mean, anyway? TRIATHLON? Is that a new AMD CPU chip? Just axin’, ya know.
If you think the dollar needs to be revalued, just say so. It’s floating, so it undergoes constant revaluation to reflect “market realities”, which seems reasonable for an exchange mechanism.
August 30th, 2009 at 3:26 pmFred says:
upright left, Do you just parse someones words because you simply can’t refute them? What you said in 452 makes not sense at all.
August 30th, 2009 at 11:28 am
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Yet another definition you need to work on, Fred. I didn’t parse your words. I corrected your pronouncement that all Christians “must align with the progressive agenda” or “Christ will judge them harshly upon their deaths.”
August 30th, 2009 at 3:52 pmYou are sorely unequipped to make pronouncements about what Christians
must support.
I wish I could have been at this “event” and yelled “America! Love it or leave it!”. Just to see their little heads explode.
August 30th, 2009 at 4:24 pmWhen i was a young woman in 1940 we were at war with Japan. We stood together and cared for each other as a nation. We all pulled together, men going to war and women building the planes for war . I ask this question ? if we were attacked today by N. Korea or some other country what would happen if the South is against the North and the East against the West or say Democrates are against the Republicans or visa versie and we are hit with a Bomb? If it were hit in the North is the South and East and West going to just sit there and let our fellow Americans fight alone? What if it hit the South are people in the North or East or West going to say,” Good ridance, let the scum bags face it alone.”? Wheather you believe it or not we all still need each other. We are still as a nation also a family. It would be to all our benifits if we would learn to give and take. Lets quite calling each other names like 2nd graders and try to see each others side of things. Both sides do not have to have every thing they wont all the time absolutely their own way and no other way will do. Thats how kids act. This country should run like a marriage between the Democrate and Republican Parties where there would be some give and take on both sides till every one is reasonably happy and can live with the results.
The way the Constitution is written has served us well for many years. Should we as a nation throw out the baby with the bath water so to speak when there is a problem? The Constitution is like the baby. Let us work together on the problems fellow Party Democrates and Party Republicans but let us also keep our Constitution and not cut out any of its parts . If we cut parts out of the Constitution it would lose it’s power as a legal document and we as a nation would lose our uniqueness.
August 30th, 2009 at 4:28 pmSorry y’all live in a big city and don’t know anyone in it. Guess that is the difference between big cities and small towns.
Outhouse obviously has never lived in a big city. I live in New York City, I know my local business owners, I know my neighbors.
Some white trash rube like you would be eaten up and spit out by New York (or Portland). You can’t hack anything larger that some hick wasteland, racist town in the crappy, fundamentalist part of Oregon. You are a loser, an uneducated, uncultured pathetic sad loser
August 30th, 2009 at 4:35 pmAs a matter of History, Texas never wanted any part of Slavery or the Slaves. This mis-information about Texas being a slave state comes from a provision allowing slave owners from the U.S. to come into Texas with their slaves. The citizens of The Republic never bought nor sold any slave in Texas. Those slaves that were here were brought in by owners who were originally not Texians, but came asking to become citizens. Below is that section of the General Provision of the Constitution of The Republic which addresses the admittance of people from the U.S.:
SEC. 9. All persons of color who were slaves for life previous to their emigration to Texas, and who are now held in bondage, shall remain in the like state of servitude: provided, the said slave shall be the bona fide property of the person so holding said slave as aforesaid. Congress shall pass no laws to prohibit emigrants from the United States of America from bringing their slaves into the republic with them, and holding them by the same tenure by which such slaves were held in the United States; nor shall congress have power to emancipate slaves; nor shall any slave-holder be allowed to emancipate his or her slave or slaves, without the consent of congress, unless he or she shall send his or her slave or slaves without the limits of the republic. No free person of African descent, either in whole or in part, shall be permitted to reside permanently in the republic, without the consent of congress, and the importation or admission of Africans or negroes into this republic, excepting from the United States of America, is forever prohibited, and declared to be piracy.
SEC. 10. All persons, (Africans, the descendants of Africans, and Indians excepted,) who were residing in Texas on the day of the declaration of independence, shall be considered citizens of the republic, and entitled to all the privileges of such. All citizens now living in Texas, who have not received their portion of land, in like manner as colonists, shall be entitled to their land in the following proportion and manner: Every head of a family shall be entitled to one league and labor of land, and every single man of the age of seventeen and upwards, shall be entitled to the third part of one league of land. All citizens who may have, previously to the adoption of this constitution, received their league of land as heads of families, and their quarter of a league of land as single persons, shall receive such additional quantity as will make the quantity of land received by them equal to one league and “labor” and one-third of a league, unless by bargain, sale, or exchange, they have transferred, or may henceforth transfer their right to said land, or a portion thereof, to some other citizen of the republic; and in such case the person to whom such right shall have been transferred, shall be entitled to the same, as fully and amply as the person making the transfer might or could have been. No alien shall hold land in Texas, except by titles emanating directly from the government of this republic. But if any citizen of this republic should die intestate or otherwise, his children or heirs shall inherit his estate, and aliens shall have a reasonable time to take possession of and dispose of the same, in a manner hereafter to be pointed out by law. Orphan children, whose parents were entitled to land under the colonization law of Mexico, and who now reside in the republic, shall be entitled to all the rights of which their parents were possessed at the time of their death. The citizens of the republic shall not be compelled to reside on the land, but shall have their lines plainly marked. All orders of survey legally obtained by any citizen of the republic, from any legally authorized commissioner, prior to the act of the late consultation closing the land offices, shall be valid. In all cases the actual settler and occupant of the soil shall be entitled, in locating his land, to include his improvement, in preference to all other claims not acquired previous to his settlement, according to the law of the land and this constitution: Provided, That nothing herein contained shall prejudice the rights of any citizen from whom a settler may hold land by rent or lease. And whereas, the protection of the public domain from unjust and fraudulent claims, and quieting the People in the enjoyment of their lands, is one of the great duties of this convention; and whereas the legislature of Coahuila and Texas having passed an act in the year eighteen hundred and thirty-four, in behalf of general John T. Mason, of New York, and another on the fourteenth day of March, eighteen hundred and thirty-five, under which the enormous amount of eleven hundred leagues of land has been claimed by sundry individuals, some of whom reside in foreign countries, and are not citizens of the republic, which said acts are contrary to articles fourth, twelfth, and fifteenth of the laws of eighteen hundred and twenty-four of the general congress of Mexico, and one of said acts, for that cause has, by the said general congress of Mexico, been declared null and void: It is hereby declared that the said act of eighteen hundred and thirty-four, in favor of John T. Mason, and of the fourteenth of March, eighteen hundred and thirty-five, of the said legislatue of Coahuila and Texas, and each and every grant founded thereon, is, and was from the beginning, null and void; and all surveys made under pretence of authority derived from said acts are hereby declared to be null and void; and all eleven-league claims, located within twenty leagues of the boundary line between Texas and the United States of America, which have been located contrary to the laws of Mexico, are hereby declared to be null and void; and whereas many surveys and titles to land have been made whilst most of the people of Texas were absent from home, serving in the campaign against Bexar, it is hereby declared that all the surveys and locations of land made since the act of the late consultation closing the land offices, and all titles to land made since that time, are and shall be null and void. And whereas the present unsettled state of the country and the general welfare of the people demand that the operations of the land offices and the whole land system shall be suspended until persons serving in the army can have a fair and equal chance with those remaining at home to select and locate their lands, it is hereby declared that no survey or title which may hereafter be made shall be valid, unless such survey or title shall be authorized by this convention or some future congress of the republic. And with a view to the simplification of the land system, and protection of the people and the government from litigation and fraud, a general land office shall be established, where all the land titles of the republic shall be registered, and the whole territory of the republic shall be sectionized, in a manner hereafter to be prescribed by law, which shall enable the officers of the government or any citizen to ascertain with certainty the lands that are vacant, and those lands which may be covered by valid titles.
The Government of the Republic of Texas has always co-existed with it’s sister U.S. State government. It isn’t a shadow left wing or right wing government, and those born in Texas with ancestry to the beginning of the Republic know this. The U.S. State of Texas is well aware of this too. Generally Texans do not want to separate from their sister states, merely limit the Federal Government which is every Citizens right under both their State and U.S. Constitution. It isn’t a matter of Left or Right-Democrat or Republican, they’ve been in bed together a long time before stripping away the freedoms and rights of the individual in each of their repective states.
There is a solution or reform if you will to caring for our people, no matter their status in our society. It is up to We The People to Take care of our own, without the intervention of a government who will arbitrarily take and spend your hard earned $$ in a manner that is wasteful and one that lines their pockets..from now til?
Even if the Healthcare bill passed tomorrow, the same millions who are uninsured (they do have publicly funded options, don’t know about your state, but here in Texas they do)would not have an “Insurance Policy” for another 3-7 years by the time implementation begins. This is a huge undertaking and a whole new agency by the government. We can’t afford to go into a new poorly administered program. We need to focus instead our efforts on reforming both Medicare and Medicaid as a “Social” form of insurance (gov programs-which work when the powers that be quit borrowing the monies and not repaying them) Working on reforming or initiating tiers in these two programs, eradicating those who are supposedly overseeing the budgets – assigning those who really do have the people’s best interest as their mission. We can overhaul and reform quicker than it would be to implement a whole new program and set aside the monies for it. (We supply a ton of $$ to the existing Fed programs now.) Use it/manage it wisely, stop allowing the Feds to borrow from it. Then…and this is a good one: Regulate the hell out of the Insurance Industry…They are the problem and “they” co-exist with EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THE CONGRESS, Not one congressman, senator has ever refused the special interest money from them. Has no one ever wondered why the Government can manage many,many huge corporations and yet not one entity in the government has EVER put real oversight or regulations upon the Insurance Industry or their “Holders”
All this back and forth “We’re Right” “Your Wrong” is exactly the issue our government wants us to focus on, this way they maintain their control over all facets of our income producing endeavors.
Everyone please step back, take a deep breath and say hey…we can do this ourselves, we don’t need a new “Daddy” we are grown people.
Ezaxs99
August 30th, 2009 at 4:50 pmupright left says:
That would be a true statement with a little modification. Something like: Christians must support some of the goals, though not necessarily the means, of the progressive agenda.
Fair enough. But they don’t support any of the means either. The right wing is literally advocating the side of pure evil in every issue.
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TRIATHLON says:
Oh crap, not another one of these. Why don’t you post your gigantic and dense articles on a blog so you’re not spreading them all over comments on other peoples’ blogs? There are lots of sites that will set you up for free.
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TRIATHLON says:
No, group or groups of peoples simply stands by as their standard of living and work that has been generation upon generation in the making goes down the drain, do to a failed system of government, but will either over throw that system or simply separate by Secession from it.
The system of government isn’t what’s failing. Some of the populace is failing themselves, by buying into complete insanity. They are free to stop, or leave.
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TRIATHLON says:
COMMON SENSE DICTATES A NEW BASE LINE CURRENCY!!!
Man, one can turn pretty much anything into a complete and utter crazy-thon by throwing currency valuation into the issue. It seems like nobody understands it but everybody’s get their own extremely creative theory.
If mass-seceding will bring us to Third World status (and I agree that it would) then perhaps we should just not do that. Problem solved.
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jgc says:
I wish I could have been at this “event” and yelled “America! Love it or leave it!”. Just to see their little heads explode.
We need to start using that phrase more.
August 30th, 2009 at 5:15 pmezaxs99 says:
Please dont condescend to tell us anything till you have some dim idea what you are talking about. In fact Texas rebelled FROM Mexico after Mexico abolished slavery. One MONTH after the Alamo Texas ratified a Constitution that declared slavery legal in Texas. So you are flat out wrong. It is always a bad idea to couple your ignorance with condescension it makes you look stupid
August 30th, 2009 at 5:24 pmezaxs99 says:
As a matter of History, Texas never wanted any part of Slavery…
I really don’t care.
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ezaxs99 says:
The Government of the Republic of Texas has always co-existed with it’s sister U.S. State government.
No it hasn’t:
No such thing exists, nor has it for over 160 years. Stop pretending there is such a thing. That would be like me claiming the Roman empire is still in effect.
If you want us to take any of your other political opinions seriously, starting off with a whopper like this doesn’t make you look very good.
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ezaxs99 says:
It is up to We The People to Take care of our own, without the intervention of a government who will arbitrarily take and spend your hard earned $$ in a manner that is wasteful and one that lines their pockets
“We The People” is the government, you tool. That’s the entire point of writing those words in the document that establishes the government!
If we specify by statute the minimum of how will provide for the general welfare, then that guarantees that it’s not administered in an arbitrary fashion. As opposed to right-wingers donating to a televangelist and then claiming they made a charitable donation to help people, which is what happens now.
I mean, just listen to yourself: “let’s not help each other, let’s just help each other!” You’re literally claiming that we can do what isn’t being done by continuing to not do it. You’re advocating a double-blind fallacy solely to prevent real people from actually getting any real help.
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ezaxs99 says:
We can’t afford to go into a new poorly administered program.
Insurance policies are administered poorly at present. This would be an improvement, and a less expensive one, by any real measure.
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ezaxs99 says:
We need to focus instead our efforts on reforming both Medicare and Medicaid…
Whenever a right-winger says “reform,” I hear “destroy.” It’s practically hard-wired at thsi point.
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ezaxs99 says:
All this back and forth “We’re Right” “Your Wrong” is exactly the issue our government wants us to focus on…
OK, so admit you’re wrong. Because we’re actually, really right, and you’re actually really wrong. I can’t capitulate to crazy and evil. So y’all need to stop pushing crazy and evil into otherwise rational debates. Then we won’t be having this back and forth any more, will we?
August 30th, 2009 at 5:31 pmEugeneDebs says:
In fact Texas rebelled FROM Mexico after Mexico abolished slavery. One MONTH after the Alamo Texas ratified a Constitution that declared slavery legal in Texas.
Ooh, good catch. I didn’t even bother looking into that one.
August 30th, 2009 at 5:32 pmIf anyone is interested in how this went down yesterday check out this report from the Texas Observer:
http://www.texasobserver.org/blog/?p=1369
the depths of their insanity is captured in the title:
“We Hate the United States”: Secessionists rally at Capitol while Perry stays home
August 30th, 2009 at 6:12 pmMore Fodder; Everyone stay focused “Off Issue” with the U.S.Gov right now!
Is Texas part of the United States?
Absolutely not!
There are over 2800 pages clearly confirming the fact that Texas never acceded to become a part of the United States or of the united States of America. There are many appearances that Texas is a State of the Union, however the State of Texas and the United States both know differently, as neither can produce a signed Treaty of Annexation.
August 30th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
I will let someone else deal with your Republic of Texas fantasy. You were flat out wrong about Texas and slavery I doubt this is any more accurate. I will deal with the libertarian tripe that sovereign people blah blah. Sovieriegn people can decide DEMOCRATICALLY that we arent that enamored of the Ebenezer Scrooge philosophy known as economic darwinism. That the whole I got mine get yours or DIE BS is for lower lifeforms and not the ideals of a society. So when we DEMOCRATICALLY decide that healthcare, or the Air Force or highways or rural electrification or Social Security is good for ALL Americans that itself IS a function of soveriegnity which is NOT a synomym for selfishness and small mindedness. The idea is we are all in this together. Not MINE, MINE. This is the difference between a society and a large group of people living in the same geographic area. I HAVE healthcare. Great healthcare. I want to be sure my nieghbor has it too. Right now more than 40 million of my nieghbors DONT. Right now more than 18,000 people a year DIE from lack of access to healthcare. You obviously dont CARE which of your nieghbors die. YOU are one of the people John Kenneth Galbraith was talking about when he said this
“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”
August 30th, 2009 at 6:59 pmJohn Kenneth Galbraith
After giving careful thought to the matter, I’ve decided to throw my full support to the movement for Texas secession. Think about it. With Texas out of the picture, the Republican Party will never win another national election, and we could then encourage all the birthers, teabaggers, neo-Nazis, militia nutcases and right-wing talk show hosts to emigrate there. We could even give them relocation fees to uproot their double-wides and hit the road! They could then live happily in their own little tax-free, supply-side paradise; that is until the Mexican Army comes north to greet the gringos with a little “historical payback”!
August 30th, 2009 at 7:02 pmezaxs99 says:
There are over 2800 pages clearly confirming the fact that Texas never acceded to become a part of the United States or of the united States of America.
No, there aren’t. Texas joined the U.S.A. in 1845. It seceded in 1861, thereby abrogating any terms or documentation regarding its original statehood. It was unconditionally readmitted in 1870. Whether or not you “acceded to it” the second time around is moot.
Most of your rant is pure crazy, but I’ll pick out and touch on some points. However, omission of any ranty portions from my responses does not constitute condoning them. You are a freaking lunatic across the board.
Basically you’re calling for pure anarchy. Anarchy doesn’t work.
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ezaxs99 says:
Another example; both the Texas Constitution (Article II, Section 2) and the United States of America Constitution (Article 1, Section 10) provide that only Gold and Silver (Coin or Specie) shall be offered as tender and payment of debt.
Can you recall when you last received gold or silver coin in payment? Both have been unlawfully banned by Congress – yet there were no constitutional amendments allowing the government to do so.
Let’s check:
This only governs what states can’t do. It does not restrict the federal government from printing currency, or from anything else.
I would guess that it gets really annoying when we go and read the actual thing you were lying about, huh? Maybe you should knock off lying about it.
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ezaxs99 says:
Where is the Constitutional Amendment that authorized that?
Under whose authority was that law passed?
Congress’. It doesn’t requre an amendment to criminalize a behavior or substance, which is another reason that Prohibition was such a stupid idea.
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ezaxs99 says:
Again, I emphasize the fact that I am neither Left nor Right, nor Democrat or Republican,
Again, I emphasize the fact that you are a batsh!t loony.
August 30th, 2009 at 7:08 pmI bet you’re a member of the Ron Paul cult.
August 30th, 2009 at 9:10 pmtenthers give new meaning to the term “texas toast”
August 30th, 2009 at 9:16 pmI say let Texas go ahead with secession. When the military moves out and the pro rata portion of the federal highway system is destroyed because it can’t be moved, and Texas has no representation anywhere but Texas, and Texas gets no Federal funding that would include Medicaid, and no Texan would be allowed to cross the border into American until they have appropriate passports, and the Border Patrol moves out and Texas is overrun by Mexicans and others of Latino descent, et cetera, et cetera. Well, you get the idea. These poor, misguided, foolish 4% who have signed the petetion are going to bring a lot of trouble to the remainder of Texans who apparently don’t mid living in America.
August 30th, 2009 at 9:36 pmYe gods!
I have never seen such a small percentage of befuddled Americans get soo much media time.
One would think that they are the majority?
And where are the opposing forces?
August 31st, 2009 at 2:46 amOne million-Really? How many times did Yosemite Sam and Wile E Coyote sign? Maybe what we need is education reform and mental health reform.
August 31st, 2009 at 2:48 amLet them leave, it would benefit the rest of the country if they did and their survival rate would be next to zero.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:48 amThey are little more then a third world country right now, so all they are doing is taking money away from states that would be glad to receive it and let’s see how long they would last once they are NOT receiving federal money for everything.
Response to # 468:
Does this mean that George w. Bush, having been Governor of Texas, was not a citizen of the United States, and therefore ineligible to be a President of the United States?
If so, it seems that we should be about the business of invalidating anything carrying the signature of George W. Bush. The USA Patriot Act is a prime example, or any of his signing statements or executive orders.
August 31st, 2009 at 11:38 amfleabittenmonkey says:
One million-Really? How many times did Yosemite Sam and Wile E Coyote sign?
And I’m pretty sure that Wile E. is a resident of New Mexico or Arizona, based on the backgrounds in his cartoons.
August 31st, 2009 at 11:40 amFor all of you collectivists, there is a bikers rally to your state capitol on the 19th of September. Bikers vs. Bankers. We would love to see you there!
August 31st, 2009 at 12:35 pmI’m from Texas, and man, are we getting stereotyped by this minority of ‘tenthers’. On tap of that. Austin is one of the most liberal cities in Texas, and the largest county in Texas, Harris County, has elected democrat politicians, and, voted Obama during the elctions. The point I’m making is that Texas is full of clear-thinking, rational liberals and progressives, but these ‘tenthers’ are really stealing the spot light and giving Texans a bad wrap. Texas is not all right-wing lunnies, we just have a lot of rural areas. But the urban areas are definately central to progressive.
August 31st, 2009 at 2:32 pm479. ElBruce sez:…
Wile E Coyote is a resident of the Navajo Nation; his place of residence is Monument Valley. He’s a member of the Trickster Clan brought low by Acme Corp., with an assist from Rube Goldberg.
August 31st, 2009 at 2:43 pmStewtheScot says:
For all you MORONS. Bite me. Doesnt it bother you to be so stupid and pitiful?
August 31st, 2009 at 4:33 pmHey everyone,
August 31st, 2009 at 4:51 pmThe mid-term elections are just around the corner. A lot of progressives are going to get their walking papers. Maybe then, we could end our illegal foreign occupation(s) and the killing of innocent people.
It is important that we know where candidates stand on these important issues.
HOW ARE ALL MY FELLOW PARTY MEMBERS DOING TODAY . HOPE ALL OF YOU ARE WELL AND HAVE A GREAT WEEK. SO THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE SUCH A GREAT BLOG WE CAN EXPRESS OUR VIEWS ON.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:33 pmStewtheScot says:
The mid-term elections are just around the corner. A lot of progressives are going to get their walking papers.
Y’all ran on these politics in 2006 and you lost seats. You continued to run on these politics in 2008 and you lost more seats, plus the Presidency. Now you continue to run on the same politics and expect to win in 2010? Have you ever heard of the definition of insanity?
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StewtheScot says:
Maybe then, we could end our illegal foreign occupation(s) and the killing of innocent people.
The D’s are working on that. The R’s are the ones who started those wars, btw.
Also, Afghanistan was harboring the people who planned and executed the attacks on the World Trade Center on 9/11/01. Maybe you’ve heard of that little news item? Or have you forgotten now that it’s no longer a useful political kicking bag for you and now you need to use those brain cells for something else?
August 31st, 2009 at 9:06 pmChecking out the posts upthread about Portland breakfast places, have you tried the Semaphore on 17th and Holgate, ElBruce? They’ve got a bacon and 4-cheese omelet that will curl your toes. And if you work nights like I do, you can get a cocktail with an after-work breakfast.
97202 _rules_!
September 1st, 2009 at 2:53 amyou know i have never realized how many people or bitter, how many people are really smart and know a lot. How many wont to make a real point with good manners and then there are those that just wont to say mean stuff about their fellow human beings and call each other names and are just plain mean.
If a huge astroid was coming our way how would you mean, name calling, and bitter people act then? If the end of the world was at hand. What would you do?
Think about this. You would all be trying to find out where to go to be safe and you sure would not be calling people names. According to some this could happen as early as 2010. There may not be any Texas or New York left for that matter to fight about.
After reading all these comments i am sure that the most of us would, that is those of us left alive would still be fighting over something else because it looks like that is what most humans can do best is go to war and fight and if they cannot do that they call each other names … . My most of us are all so intelligent and mature we all must have come from New York or the East Coast and Texas or the South or South West, brilliant and sophisticated. I DON’T THINK SO.
We are all IGNORAMUSES if we cannot learn to get along and respect each other. A lot of what is written is just MEAN AND HATEFUL. IT DOES NOT SEEM TO MATTER WHERE THE MOST OF YOU COME FROM. CAN THE MOST OF YOU DO ANYTHING BESIDES CALL EACH OTHER NAMES AND FIGHT. TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE ONLY A FEW OF YOU KNOW HOW TO MAKE A MEANINGFUL COMMENT.
IT IS LATE 1;39 AT NIGHT GOODNIGHT
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:21 amvery thanks for article!
September 4th, 2009 at 10:20 am