Gibbs responds: Why is anyone still listening to Dick Cheney?
Gibbs responds: Why is anyone still listening to Dick Cheney?
In an interview with Fox News Sunday yesterday, Vice President Cheney aggressively attacked Attorney General Eric Holder for opening preliminary investigation into CIA interrogation abuses. He called it an “outrageous political act,” “intensely partisan,” and “politicized.” He said that the so-called enhanced interrogation techniques were directly responsible for keeping the country safe and by abandoning them, the Obama administration was putting Americans at risk. Today, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs responded to these accusations, wondering whether it’s really useful to listen to anything Cheney has to say on foreign policy:
I’m not entirely sure that Dick Cheney’s predictions on foreign policy have borne a whole lot of fruit over the last eight years in a way that have been either positive or, to the best of my recollection, very correct.
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“Why is anyone still listening to Dick Cheney?”
Because he’ll shoot them if they don’t?
August 31st, 2009 at 3:14 pmAnd this is the awkward situation that happens when an ex-Veep inserts himself into a current political debate. There has been a longstanding tradition of ex-Presidents and ex-Veeps staying quiet about political issues after their tenure is over. Of course, like just about every other tradition of mutual respect established in America, Cheney doesn’t give a rat’s ass.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:15 pmOr have his assasination squads take you out if you do not listen.
Evil has a face and it is Dick’s face.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:16 pmSending Cheney to the International Criminal Court looks better every day.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:17 pmWhy do people listen to Darth Cheney? Because it feels so good when it stops. He should stop more often, then people would feel lots better.
Oh, I forgot the torture fans who think he speaks truth from power and people like that; people who need a daily dose of authority from someone else, people who can’t think without direction, that sort of thing.
But it’s an excellent question for Mr. Gibbs to ask.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:18 pmRarely in American history has a former Vice President criticized the newly elected administration. This is a time honored tradition that DickBruceDarth Cheney violates, because he is the most partisan politician of our generation.
And, may I say, an a$$hat, to boot.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:19 pmOf course, Mr. Gibbs is also dead on the mark when he notes that DarthBarney Cheney hasn’t been doing very well in the prognostication department. He could have pointed out that DarthBarney’s morals and attitude toward the law are not commendable, even to sewer pond scum and cess pool bacteria.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:20 pmSome former Vice Presidents spread joy wherever they go.
Other vice presidents spread joy WHENEVER they go.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:22 pmExactly what I always yell to the TV screen when Cheney shows up. When Liz Cheney shows up, I ask, “Why do we have to listen to you defend your daddy? I have better credentials to comment on foreign policy than you do?”
August 31st, 2009 at 3:24 pmCheney was just bringing more light and attention to the torture issue for one reason: To divert attention from the REALLY evil stuff he was doing. What was on those emails he destroyed? Was Rumsfeld still paling around with Sadam? Was his assassin “death panel” getting too successful? How many horrible things did that administration do that we’ve collectively forgotten about? Maybe planned 9/11?
If I was Cheney I would keep talking(to push my book sales) and to keep people on this wild goose chase. instead of chasing the golden goose he stole from the taxpayers and gave to his buddies(and himself).
August 31st, 2009 at 3:24 pmVice President Cheney is attacking AG Holder because the AG wants to uphold the law, a phenomenon unfamiliar to Dick Cheney.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:26 pmWay to go Gibbs>>>>>> now we need more and a continues use of this. who cares dick>>>>>>>
the real axles of evil cheney, rummy, rove
August 31st, 2009 at 3:26 pmBob, you seem like a pretty bright guy so you should pick up on this pretty quick. The reason people are still listening to Dick Cheney is because YOUR BOSS IS LETTING HIM RUN AROUND LOOSE WHEN HE SHOULD BE IN AN ORANGE COVERALL WITH HANDCUFFS.
Ok, Bobby?
August 31st, 2009 at 3:26 pm“Gibbs responds: Why is anyone still listening to Dick Cheney?”
Excellent question to ask, Gibbs. However, keep in mind, is that Dick is lining the pockets of Fox News for airtime [since Fox News gets all of Dick's exclusive interview] for his continuing ” the end is near” campaign attack against Obama on the torture techniques probe. It’s more of “I’ll scratch your back, if you scratch mine” relationship with Dick and Fox News. Some of the media outlets still continue to give Cheney airtimne of their network while majority of Americans are completely tuned out to this war criminal ex-Veep.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:27 pmAndrew Sullivan likened the Wallace/Cheney interview thusly: A Teenage Girl Interviewing The Jonas Brothers.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:28 pmThe reich-wing smear machine should be revolting against Gibbs in 5….4….3…..2….1…..
August 31st, 2009 at 3:29 pmSo, if we use “Cheney Logic”, it was perfectly fine and legal for Phillip Garrido to kidnap and repeatedly rape an eleven year old girl because it produced two children.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:30 pmThe ONLY sound I want to hear from 5-deferment Dickhead Cheney is the sound of his neck snapping like a dried twig as he falls through the trap door of the gallows.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:31 pmI can see all the trolls in there basements trying to get there talking points on Gibbs they can.
So i say in another 10 mins the trolls will begin.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:31 pmAIO says:
Normally, I don’t chide you for your posts, but THAT one is truly perverted.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:33 pmIt’s not JUST Dick Cheney I wonder about …. I can’t help wondering why the mainstream media pay attention to (and give airtime to) a whole lot of people who are simply speaking crap. For instance, Liz Cheney. She’s everywhere. What are her qualifications to speak authoritatively on anything? Has she ever been elected to any position? Who does she represent? Why is what she says so worthy of airtime and discussion? It’s puzzling to me. Why are folks listening to her?
How come Sarah Palin still makes the news? She’s not the Governor anymore — why are people paying attention to her?
Now people are all tut-tutting about some rabid minister who prays Obama gets brain cancer and dies. There are lunatics in asylums who say the same thing. Obviously, this man belongs there — and not being the centre of discussions about whether it’s free speech or not.
Can’t folks give Obama at least a year before jumping on him with hobnailed boots? It took Bush and Cheney 8 years to bring the US to the precipice. Now noisy dimbulbs want the whole thing turned around, taxes lowered, peace to break out and unemployment to get back to 3-4% and everybody’s mortgages to be safe and they want a strong economy YESTERDAY with all the banks lending at low interest rates to anyone who asks — all in, what is it now — 7 and a half months. Cripes. That the Republicans actually got about 48% of the votes in the last federal election is dumbfounding to me.
I’m a Canuck, I love Americans and wish you well – but holy cow, I swear there must be something strange in the water you’re drinking down there.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:36 pmUncle Ho, the most perverted part of it is it matches Cheney’s logic. If what you do meets your goals, screw what society thinks.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:37 pmGee remember back in the good old days when it was treason to critize a president during wartime…Dick is aiding and abetting the terrorists.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:37 pmHo, you have no reason to “chide” me about anything.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:39 pmBravo. I would respectfully suggest that the only thing wrong with Mr. Gibbs’ statement is that he limited it to the prior eight years. Let’s not forget that it was secretary of defense Cheney who proclaimed in 1991 at the end of the first war for oil that it would be a bad idea to continue on to take out Saddam. Bet vice president Cheney would like to have a word with that sissy. Maybe Chris Wallace can ask about that one the next time he polished The Dick’s knob.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:40 pm… because, Gibbs, your boss and the rest of the Dems are spineless pussies who do NOTHING to counter the right-wing insanity machine and cave to them at every opportunity?
Cheney smells BLOOD, wtf part of that is hard to grasp. Jesus, don’t you people have ANY strategists!?
Where’s the hope and change, you tools!
August 31st, 2009 at 3:41 pmIf Dickhead Cheney needs to talk about something, perhaps the entire content of every secret energy meeting he had would be a good starting point.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:41 pmIt isn’t anyone who still listens to Dick Cheney:
Its an ignorant, stupid and xenophobic voting bloc large enough to significantly influence elections and national policy that listens to Cheney.
It is an immensely wealthy xenophobic military-industrial power elite that consistently benefits from Cheney’s philosophies that promote the promote his worldview for their poltical and financial benefit.
It is the corporate media that consistently offers Cheney and Cheney’s philosophically attuned corporate sponsors that provide him a national pulpit and validating deference, thereby asymptotically validating the idiot voting bloc and validating the passive corporate media in a cycle of incestuous financial benefit.
And because of this self-affirming, self supporting close-loop system, those of us outside the system have to listen to him too, because however empirically invalid his ( and his supprters’) worldview is, HIS world is the world we have had to live in and have to continue to live in for some time.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:43 pmGee, here I was all wound up to say something and rosie beat me to it!!!! Go rosie!!!!
August 31st, 2009 at 3:45 pmDam off by a few mins on the troll watch.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:46 pmOy…it’s been sickening having to listen to him. For eight and a half long years we had to listen to him. I wouldn’t mind it so much if the media would DO THEIR JOBS and debunk the crap he’s spewing, but they seem much more interested in ‘the controversy’ he engenders rather than the substance (or lack thereof) of his views.
It’s taking an awfully long time to wake up from this, and there are those still perfectly willing to slumber through it. We don’t HAVE to live in that world anymore if enough people (and yes – the spineless Democrats in government most of all) – call bullshit what it is.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:49 pmOn distant island
August 31st, 2009 at 3:52 pmWolf howls under darkened skies
No ferry service
And Bob, as long as you are asking, just who is offering anything else to listen to?
Is there someone in authority who is standing up and saying, “No, the US stands by its laws and treaty agreements, 100%” with the same frequency? Or are they claiming the right to unlimited detention without trial?
Is anyone in authority coming out and saying, “I’m sorry, Mr. Cheney is as full of sh*t as a baby goose.” when he makes these statements? Or are they threatening the UK with repurcussions if they tell the world just what we have done?
They listen, Bob, because no one has done anything to shut them up.
August 31st, 2009 at 3:53 pmUntil we get the megaphones away from the corporate apologists (I mean REALLY! Can we actually be debating whether torture is effective?), we will be stuck with Cheney and his Grendel-like daughter spewing their nonsense, and it will be taken seriously by way too many people.
There probably ARE people of consequence out there saying, “I’m sorry, Mr. Cheney is full of sh*t as a baby goose,” but Hooda is right. Who besides maybe Bill Moyers is going to air that?
August 31st, 2009 at 3:57 pmUh oh….I sense the word “traitor” coming on! Trolls?
August 31st, 2009 at 3:58 pmWhat I meant is that the news coming out of Antioch, CA is monstrous in itself and there should be no comparison to the prior administration.
time for me to go
August 31st, 2009 at 3:59 pmsee you all tomorrow
I’ll bite. Cheney is a traitor. He sold this country out for his six pieces of Halliburton.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:00 pmNot sure how someone who approved and still champions illegal interrogation methods is considered some sort of litmus test for every decision by President Obama concerning interrogations and national security as a whole…
http://www.political-buzz.com/
August 31st, 2009 at 4:03 pmDick Cheney isn’t trying to influence the political debate, he is trying to influence the jury pool.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:09 pmGood for Gibbs, it’s something that needed to be said, and we cant count on the MSM to do it.
Cheney, Rove, Bush et. al. know their days in the sun are numbered now that a special prosecutor has been appointed. Once the huge, criminal mess that is Bushco has been poked with a stick, so many crimes and abuses will come oozing out they’ll need a truckload of prosecutors to handle all of it.
Keep the faith people, the wheels of justice turn slowly, but at least they are now starting to turn.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:19 pmCheney was apparently a major architect in a spate of imperialism that led us to a broken economy and broken government.
In short, for a neocon this is a stunning resume. Promote yourself up. Same way a failure at a horse show became head of FEMA.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:23 pmDick Cheney…
9/11 happened on Cheney/Bushs watch…..
Cheney chose five-deferments over the war in Vietnam when he HAD the opportunity to serve and kick-ass…..
Cheney is an arm-chair politician….absolutely worthless!
August 31st, 2009 at 4:25 pmThe ONLY reason there have been no more attacks since 9-11 is that Cheney has not sub-contracted for any more.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:37 pmCheney aggressively attacked Attorney General Eric Holder for opening preliminary investigation into CIA interrogation abuses.
He called it an
“outrageous political act,” translation – He is a war criminal and wants to stay out of prison.
“intensely partisan,” translation – He is a war criminal and wants to stay out of prison.
“politicized.” translation – He is a war criminal and wants to stay out of prison.
“were directly responsible for keeping the country safe” translation – He is a war criminal and wants to stay out of prison.
Yeah, we understood every word you said Dick.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:38 pmGeorge says – Hehehe, that Dick, he sure was all, ‘We ain’t never gonna pay for these war crimes’, and he was right, we did it, what are you gonna do about it, nothing, that’s right nothing, we murdered, we tortured those ‘brown islamo guys’ to death and there isn’t anything anyone is going to do about it, why? Because we conservatives own the media, and they do our bidding, Fox, (snicker) is balancing the propaganda. Obama doesn’t want to piss off our insane nut cases anymore than he has by trying to help them, just imagine the sh!t that would happen if they actually went and followed the law, hell, the racist gun nuts would just go gun crazy…what you think Dick?
Dick says – I want fresh blood from cute kittens and puppies.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:44 pm…once a Dick, always a Dick.
What is he REALLY afraid of?
Perhaps standing trial at the Hague?
His petulant and annoying spawn “Liz” was sure sounding pretty scared this past Sunday on “This Week with George Stephanopoulos” …but not for the lame ass reasons she spoke of. I’m glad Sam Donaldson took her sorry ass to the woodshed.
We got hit. We got hit badly on 9/11. In the aftermath…
August 31st, 2009 at 4:51 pmwhat these miscreants did is pretty much close to what the German people as a whole had to answer for after World War II.
The Nation, as a whole, needs to come clean and do the right thing:
Hold those accountable for violations of the Geneva Convention and make an example of them here in our Country…before the rest of the “civilized world” MAKES us.
Sad, but true…that certain people in power went beyond what is considered “proper treatment” of prisoners of war…
…it has never happened in our Country before, yet, sadly…it did happen.
MapleStreet says: Cheney was apparently a major architect in a spate of imperialism that led us to a broken economy and broken government.
Interestingly when Cheney was Sec. Def. under Bush41, he argued AGAINST turning the ejection of Iraqi forces from Kuwait into an outright assault on Hussein’s regime, apparently because he thought it was too risky, for a whole bunch of reasons. Imperialism didn’t seem to be an objective of his back then, despite the opportunity.
BUT as far as I can tell, he had nothing to gain from any US imperialism at the time.
Cheney hadn’t yet joined the AEI or Halliburton and the election race was already in progress.
As Sec. Def. he even wanted to cut the B-2 bomber, an obvious tool of imperial power projection—but on the other hand the Bush41 economy was in the crapper thanks to Reagan’s “voodoo economics” (as Bush 41 described Reagan’s proposed fiscal policy during the 1980 GOP primaries).
I suspect Cheney’s “imperialist” proclivities were and have been entirely personal rather than national. He invested himself as the VP candidate to facilitate his own financial and egotistical ambitions–his constant position has been that he’s right, everyone else has been and is wrong.
THAT is a fundamentally imperialist attitude.
August 31st, 2009 at 5:09 pmI agree! The GOP and its chief spokesmen, Dick Cheney and Limbaugh et al all engage in a disinformation campaign focused on hte and racial bias. They thnk they can succeed by paintng the current administration as wimps, but they are the ones who justify their criminal acts by explaining how Fearful they were, not how cool and calculated they are. Their actions were desperate, not deliberate, and what they are expressing is distraction from the embarassment they will feel if their actions were acknowledged. Who needs leadershp from clowns?
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Athena, what does the fact that the Taliban is a brutal gang of thugs have to do with our values as Americans. Are you suggesting that we should act like the Taliban?
August 31st, 2009 at 6:39 pmWhy is it that when there’s the slightest chance that a Democrat has possibly broken a law, conservatives believe in “the rule of law” and think that investigations should simply go where the facts lead, but when there’s a chance that a Repub has broken the law, conservatives are all about nuance, intentions and situational ethics?
August 31st, 2009 at 6:42 pmAthena, one more thing about your buddy Dick: THERE’S NO TALIBAN IN IRAQ, DUMBASS! That big a-hole you love to defend is personally responsible for more than 4,000 American soldier deaths, over 1 million Iraqi deaths and over 30,000 American war injuries. He lied through his teeth and caused all this misery and death… and you just looooovvvvve him!
Un-fricking-believable!
August 31st, 2009 at 6:56 pmTrolls and repugniscum believe in an eye for an eye — that solution leaves everyone blind — and that’s the way they like it. They believe in retaliating one for one, never stopping to think that there are smarter, more long-lasting ways to deal with serious matters. Instead, they opt for the primtive approach — my stick is bigger than your stick.
August 31st, 2009 at 7:00 pmI have one think to say about Robert Gibbs: he’s the typical Democratic wimp. It is this type of wimp at is the true threat of any progressive movement in this country. His response to Cheney’s constant idiotic response about torture: “I’m not entirely sure that Dick Cheney’s predictions on foreign policy have borne a whole lot of fruit over the last eight years in a way that have been either positive or, to the best of my recollection, very correct.”
August 31st, 2009 at 7:01 pmThat poor excuse for a eunuch should have respond like this: “Dick Cheney’s predictions on foreign policy have not borne any fruit during the last eight years; he has been corrosive to our national security, and more importantly, false at every turn.” This is what you’ll expect from Gibbs and the rest of his gonads-less wonders.
I voted for his too, 5th, so now I will vote for yours!
August 31st, 2009 at 7:01 pmNinerFan says: Athena, what does the fact that the Taliban is a brutal gang of thugs have to do with our values as Americans. Are you suggesting that we should act like the Taliban?
…or raise the bar of brutality, or apply force as the solution to every contention?
Sorry, ninerfan, the voting system at TP doesn’t permit multiple votes from an individual, otherwise I’d be stuck voting your perfectly pithy comment UP all day.
August 31st, 2009 at 7:02 pmThanks, 5th Estate! Earlier, you posted this: “I suspect Cheney’s “imperialist” proclivities were and have been entirely personal rather than national.”
Exactly. He’s a corporatist sociopath who doesn’t really have any belief in or dedication to civil government. His only over-riding political position, for 40 years, has been a thoroughly un-American belief that the executive should have powers that place him above the law.
August 31st, 2009 at 7:11 pm# 29, “thereby asymptotically validating the idiot voting bloc”
I meant symbiotically . I have however accidentally learned a new word.
Unfortunately (or fortunately) I can’t figure out how to use asymptotically with any reasonable effect in ordinary conversation.
August 31st, 2009 at 7:15 pmArmando Gomez says:
I don’t agree precisely with your comment, but I do agree with your sentiments.
Gibbs is doing his job as it is defined for him, and he has on a couple of occasions delivered reasonably sharp responses to some of the more ridiculous questions and conjectures the press has offered up.
Even so, Gibbs is unnecessarily diplomatic in most cases, and in that he reflects a disappointingly ( to me) conciliatory and.pr respectful tone that at least the last 8 years of history do not and should not justify.
August 31st, 2009 at 7:31 pmhi Marie, and right back at’cha :D
August 31st, 2009 at 7:34 pmI thought Obama was supposed to get us out of these wars? Like you fell for that crap and voted for him? No change you can’t believe in.
August 31st, 2009 at 7:53 pmSlightly o/t: Here’s a new film Cheney doesn’t want the media mentioning. (So they don’t.)
August 31st, 2009 at 9:02 pmOhhh, burn! Niiiice. Good job, Mr. Gibbs. :D
August 31st, 2009 at 9:10 pmHi kwsventures
August 31st, 2009 at 9:11 pmSo what is it that you produce again and how can I purchase your product or services?
Thanks…
What’s with the beheading thing? We kill better? Is that the message? It’s a quick death for a single person. That doesn’t justify it, nor does a beheading justify over a million Iraqi and Afghani civilian deaths, and torture. I think turning a child into a pink mist with a cluster bomb is far more offensive, it is indiscriminate.
August 31st, 2009 at 10:29 pmkwsventures says:
I just gave your post on 62 one vote closer to the craphola. Now that’s change we can believe in little dweeb.
September 1st, 2009 at 1:26 amI wish a foreign country would lodge a criminal warrant for torture in the International Criminal Court so that Cheney cannot leave the US and will always be looking over his shoulder. The Israelis kidnapped Eichmann, tried and then executed him. Every day Cheney would have to worry about being kidnapped and taken to the Court.
September 1st, 2009 at 1:54 amit DOES take a bit longer than 1 day to get out of a war. If Obama gets us out of both wars in his first term I will say thats a lot better than bush’s war forever policy. If he only gets us out of ONE war, I will still vote for him again. If he appears to be TRYING to get us out of wars by his end of term.. I’ll still vote for him. If he starts 2 more wars I might not. If my state gets bombed in anyway I will NOT vote for him.
September 1st, 2009 at 3:33 amNOBODY SHOULD LISTEN TO DICK CHENEY.
CHENEY IS SEVERELY MENTALLY ILL AND REQUIRES INVOLUNTARY PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITALIZATION.
GEORGE W. BUSH IS ALSO SEVERELY MENTALLY ILL.
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SCANDALS! SCANDALS! SCANDALS!
DANGER! DANGER! DANGER!
GEORGE W. BUSH IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CRIMINAL STALKER AND SERIAL KILLER!
“In her suit, Margie Schoedinger states that George W. Bush committed sexual crimes against her, organized harassment and moral pressure on her, her family members and close relatives and friends. As Schoedinger said, she was strongly recommended to keep her mouth shut. . . . Furthermore, she alleges that George Bush ordered to show pressure on her to the point, when she commits suicide” (go to Google, type “blog of drizzten Margie Schoedinger,” and hit “Enter”).
“George [Bush is personally complicit] in the death (murder to be precise) of my friend Margie Schoedinger in September of 2003. Determining the exact whereabouts and contacts of . . . George Bush on September 21 thru 22, 2003, should be entirely lacking in difficulty” (Leola McConnell—Nevada Progressive Democratic Candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010).
McConnell is correct: Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death.
Bush also used this sort of modus operandi to intimidate or terrorize people: it is physically impossible for it to have been otherwise insofar as he could implement such a modus operandi at all. Thus, sometimes Bush continuously criminally stalked people to terrify them by inflicting organized harassment against them, their family members, relatives, and friends—and furthermore—possibly their employers and/or contacts otherwise. Some of Bush’s victims were so scared and realized that the worst thing that could happen to them was that they would ultimately be murdered by him—for example—like Schoedinger. So it might have behooved any number of them to step down to whatever arbitrary and capricious demands of Bush or else he might have ordered to show pressure on them all the way to the point—when they commit suicide.
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Lets arrest and handcuff the whole group in bush white house from the ex pres down and send them to the world court to be tried and let,s see what the coward channey does then.
September 1st, 2009 at 1:05 pm