Al Gore: ‘We have a moral duty to pass health care reform.’
Al Gore: ‘We have a moral duty to pass health care reform.’
Former Vice President Al Gore, who endorsed universal health care well before most other elected Democrats in 2002, told a meeting of Tennessee Democrats Sunday that the country has “a moral duty to pass health care reform this year.” Gore implore activists to mobilize to “give President Obama the victory our country needs”:
“We have a lot of talk about liberal and conservative, and left and right, but when there are tens of millions of people in our country who can’t get access to health care, we need to pass health care reform this year. Build support for it. Let’s give President Obama the victory our country needs,” he said to a standing ovation.
Gore was also joined by former President Bill Clinton, who noted that the U.S. pays nearly $900 billion dollars more in health care costs every year than most other industrialized nations. “That 800 to 900 billion is going somewhere. And the ‘somewhere’ doesn’t want to give it up,” he said. Watch a compilation of local news clips:
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Health care is a right, not a privilege. What is so difficult to understand about that?
August 31st, 2009 at 1:00 pmIt IS a moral duty to pass single payer, and it has the additional advantage of making American products more competitve in the marketplace.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:01 pmI don’t think any sane person would argue against health care reform.
Then again some Repugs want to get government out of medicare and the VA.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:02 pmI am so glad to see the big talent like Bill Clinton and Al Gore stepping up to the task of “selling” health care reform, including the Public Option.
This is so important for the very survival of our nation.
A sick and debilitated citizenry cannot insure the future of this nation.
A healthy, non-stressed citizenry can insure the future of this nation.
Screw the repiggies, and screw the teabagger trash.
Let’s get this thing done, and done correctly.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:05 pmwell this oughtta bring the screechmonkeys out of the woodwork.
Gore is like “trollnip”.
Also, Righties don’t approve of anyone else talking about what’s moral. They bought that real estate, along with “law and order” and “national security” back in the ’80’s, and by God they’re not about to let anyone on that lawn.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:07 pmCue the trolls screeching that health care is a privilege, not a right, and whining that we just need to get JOBS.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:11 pmIf president elect Gore had been allowed his win in 2000, health care reform would have been a done deal already.
Just imagine how different this country would be if the Bush/Cheney disaster had not been shoved down our collective throats.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:13 pmWhile Clinton and Gore are promoting healthcare reform, dick Cheney is still defending torture.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:13 pmBoth Gore and Clinton? Talk about your trollbait. I think the Dems may actually have a strategy brewing here…
August 31st, 2009 at 1:15 pmbradshaw – do you know how much of the revenue Gore generates goes to charitable causes?
August 31st, 2009 at 1:16 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Zooey says:
Mistress Z got a voet down, but I gave a vote up to negate that.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:16 pm(:-D)
cd says
August 31st, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Then again some Repugs want to get government out of medicare and the VA.
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And on most days, that would be about the nuttiest thing I would hear all day.
But today, it looks like all the loonies are out in force. Just on TP, I’ve heard about a Texas Congressman claiming that a mother who had to look high and low to find somebody to operate on her infant child wouldn’t have been able to get that treatment if a public option had been available. I’ve heard about an Arizona preacher who’s praying that our president dies, and soon. And I’ve heard about some Texans who hate the United States and want Texas to secede.
Hey, at least the “we wanna see the birth certificate!” crowd seems to have simmered down…
August 31st, 2009 at 1:17 pmThe poor, stupid, trolls can’t help it. They see Al Gore’s name and screech “global warming” like Pavlov’s dogs.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:19 pmA tale of two parties, okie.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:19 pmI am seriously thinking about switching my course of study to Health IT or even a pre-med track (primary care). The only reason I haven’t considered becoming a doctor up to this point is not because I don’t have a medical interest or aptitude, but my stomach turns easily. Even though primary care physicians are not surgeons, you still have to mingle with cadavers in med school. That’s what increases my respect for good doctors – a deep appreciation every aspect of the human being – not $glitz$ and $glamor$!
August 31st, 2009 at 1:20 pmAnd we already have our first intoxicated troll, rolling his back with the trollnip mouse in his paws.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:21 pm(h/t tombaker for the concept of “trollnip”)
August 31st, 2009 at 1:21 pmi think that wordpress mixup freaked bradshaw out….
….because it looks like I was reading his mind!!
August 31st, 2009 at 1:21 pmNice that Al and Bubba are on the same page. Are they going to go out and stir up support for it in the blue dog and red states? We need that to pull it through Congress.
People have to get off the sofa and away from their desk and send nastygrams to the blue dogs and Rs in their states and districts reminding them of the power of the ballot.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:22 pmUncle Ho says:
Mistress Z got a voet down, but I gave a vote up to negate that.
(:-D)
August 31st, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Thanks, Unka Ho. :)
I’ll return the favor sometime.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:22 pmbradshaw88 says:
He’s made 100 million peddling global warming.
I find it fascinating how right-wingers put rich people on a pedestal unless those rich people actually try to do anything to help anybody else.
Look, if you had millions of dollars from family oil money and you looked at the science and saw that global warming was a reality and that at some point the world would have to do something about it, wouldn’t you invest in alternative energy sources? Get in on the ground floor? That’s just good business. But it doesn’t harm anything. It helps, since that early investment aids in the reasearch that will help those things come to market.
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bradshaw88 says:
Why doesn’t he write checks for at least half of that to families in need?
Because even that would be a drop in the bucket, and once that money was gone, the problem would still be there. Whatever happened to “a hand up not a hand out?” Don’t you get that?
August 31st, 2009 at 1:23 pmbradshaw88 says:
Why do brainwashed morons like you come in here to tell the lies you are programmed with as if we didnt know better. Is it that you are really that stupid or that you really dont CARE what is real?
August 31st, 2009 at 1:24 pmTHIS is why trolls are naturally wary of trollnip. It leaves them vulnerable to getting their bellies ripped open by sharp-witted progressives.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:24 pm6. Zooey sez:…
Cue the trollscreech? Sheeyit, I’da thought they’d jump the starting gun and we’d have to do a callback.
Clinton and Gore? Together? That’s really high church trollchum.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:26 pmbradshaw88 says:
He’s made 100 million peddling global warming. Why doesn’t he write checks for at least half of that to families in need? Limousine Liberalism at it’s finest!!
How much of that 100 mil went directly to his cause, i.e. his foundation?
August 31st, 2009 at 1:28 pmI love whenever anyone uses the blank-minded buzzphrase “Limousine Liberal”. People like Al Gore and Ted Kennedy have done more in their positions of wealth than any (R) to help those in actual need. The only conservative-related folks who did this had to face personal hardship to realize “oh, wait, there are problems in the world!” (RE: Nancy Reagan, Betty Ford). “Limousine Liberal” is a phrase about as attached to reality as “Compassionate Conservatism”.
Gore is right: Our question shouldn’t be “public option or not”, it should be “should we relegate our American health care system solely to private industry, and is it a moral imperitive to cover all U.S. citizens?”
August 31st, 2009 at 1:32 pmElBruce says:Whatever happened to “a hand up not a hand out?” Don’t you get that?
you should not confused the trolls like that it could cause a brain pop.
or you may have just made a new friend, you know one who follows you home.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:33 pmThe reason the trolls hate Slick Willy and the Tinman is because they are both good businessmen as well as concerned humanitarians. This is a combination their masters cannot fathom.
Plus, they are flat out likable. Something they really can’t wrap their brains around.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:33 pmPlease prove to us that global climate change isn’t real.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:35 pmTrollnip? Excellent, tombaker.
what’s this “bradshaw88″ business? there another 87 bradshaws out there that aren’t trolls? or is that kind of an ubertroll signification mark?
88 seems to be some sort of shorthand salute among the white power adolf admirers, stands for HH, eighth letter of the alphabet repeated, which in turn is short for heil you-know-who. apparently a number of the righty skinheads and neonazi white power tat fans have it tattooed somewhere.
warning; next phrase may be considered to be in poor taste…
I’ve been considering having it tattooed next to me anus so I fart past it and smear crap on it
August 31st, 2009 at 1:36 pmYeah, as if it’s some sort of hypocrisy to be well-off and still be concerned about your fellow man.
It just makes clear the right-wing mindset: if one gets to be wealthy, the normal response is to be selfish about it.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:36 pmYoungSloshee says:
I love whenever anyone uses the blank-minded buzzphrase “Limousine Liberal”.
I just mentally substitute “class traitor” whenever they use that phrase. That’s what they really mean.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:37 pmStupid troll doesn’t even have the ability to see how illogical his ‘argument’ is.
Based on the troll’s logic, with Cheney’s family benefiting very nicely from the wars in Iraq, why didn’t Cheney fund the invasion of Iraq? For that matter, didn’t Bush Sr. through the Carlyle Group benefit from the war?
Of course it’s the moral thing to do to pass health care reform. I’m glad Gore came out and said that.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:37 pmbradshaw88 says:
He’s made 100 million peddling global warming.
And now he is just sitting back on his laurels, enjoying his profits. No? You mean he is still irritating the crap out of trolls because he is still out there, still working? Why the heck can’t he just give it up and stick with making mega profits from the misery of others like a good Republican.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:38 pmThe Dems might have an easier time selling their healthcare plan when/if they present a coherent bill. There are too many versions right now…too much ambiguity. It will be interesting to see what finally emerges.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:39 pmIt is the moral thing to do, to pass health care for every one. We are the only industrialize nation that does not have this. It is one of the things that makes us non-competitive with the rest of the industrialized nations. I am un-employed and it costs me over 800 a month to have health insurance. My monthly unemployment is about 1400 a month. Gee, do I eat, pay my housing, health care?
The Refuklicans and those Democrats that don’t get it should live for a while in the projects of Washington DC and see what life is like at the bottom of the heap. Get with it, every one deserves proper medical care. It is the moral and ethical thing to do.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:40 pmI’m concerned about that, too, JP.
That’s the problem – there’s just not enough concern out there right now.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:41 pmClinton: ““That 800 to 900 billion is going somewhere. And the ‘somewhere’ doesn’t want to give it up.”
$1.3 BILLION of it went to William Maguire, the CEO of the nation’s largest HMO, for ONE YEAR’S WORK. But conservatives are fired up about the possibility that Gore might not have given all of that $100 million to charity.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:42 pmThe Dems might have an easier time selling their healthcare plan when/if they present a coherent bill.
And they would definitely do a better job if they would quit trying to appease the Nobots and the bought and paid for blue dogs. You know, the ones who are fighting a coherent bill so they can keep raking in the money from their corporate vampires.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:42 pmJeez, since when has Al Gore been right about anything that might serve a non-partisan national interest–like the development of the Internet, the illegitimacy of the US war on Iraq, and the symptoms and consequences of climate change?
Doesn’t everyone know Al Gore is just a “fat” “serial fabricator”? Why should we listen to him!?
/snark
August 31st, 2009 at 1:43 pmWouldn’t the no crowd and the lobbyist whores crap bricks if HR 676 hit the floor?
August 31st, 2009 at 1:44 pmJPsThoughts says:
The Dems might have an easier time selling their healthcare plan when/if they present a coherent bill. There are too many versions right now…too much ambiguity. It will be interesting to see what finally emerges.
It’s called the Kennedy bill, and it includes the public option. Write it down. Many bills have multiple versions. All the president needs to do is endorse the bill out of HELP and he’s back on track.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:45 pmIf you’re not in favor of total healthcare–at least for all children–you are a barbarian. You are a Hun. You have to get out of my country.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:45 pm5th, they are still hung up on the ‘love means never having to say you are sorry’ thing. They just adapted it to ‘being a Republican means never having to be honest’ thing.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:47 pmbshaw88—all of the money Gore earns goes toward research in global warming. He doesn’t keep one red cent. Where were you when he testified before the Senate committee about this earlier this year? A little CSPAN is good for you. If you watch it, you don’t have to get your information from “entertainers.”
August 31st, 2009 at 1:47 pmJPsThoughts says:
The Dems might have an easier time selling their healthcare plan when/if they present a coherent bill. There are too many versions right now…too much ambiguity. It will be interesting to see what finally emerges.
I am in complete agreement with this statement. I even voted you up back to zero on it. O_o
Picking a health care version, getting everybody on board with it and presenting a united front is something the D’s should have done a while ago. Much of the confusion in discussion and the apparent lack of leadership on it seems to stem from an unwillingness to specify exactly what it is the D’s are trying to do here.
If they were intending to go for a “compromise” (i.e. capitulation) strategy all along, then they should have all come out strong for single-payer and then let the R’s talk them down to public-option.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:50 pmActually the plans that are still in House committees are plenty coherent, judging by the summaries I’ve read, and have much common ground between them. However, it is true that no single reconciled bill yet exists. Of course, GOoPers like Inhofe have already pledged to vote against any bill without even bothering to read it.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:51 pmGore: “Let’s give President Obama the victory our country needs,”
I question the wisdom of referring to healthcare reform as the victory Obama needs. I’d rather he said: “Let’s give Americans the victory they need.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:54 pmSo, why not keep it real simple: expand Medicare to cover everyone. Bargain down drug prices, re-think Medicare compensation rates and increase the top marginal rate by 3 or 4 percentage points. Get everyone on Medicare as soon as possible and by the time the 2010 election rolls around, find out once and for all if voters like the fact that they don’t worry about health care anymore.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:55 pmYeah, right… THAT’S what troubles right-wingers. The ambiguity.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:58 pmMcWars:
There are currently three bills, one in the House, one in the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, and one in the Senate Finance Committee that has yet to be finalized. (per Los Angeles Times)
Write it down.
Obviously, there are always multiple versions. But multiple versions of a bill won’t sell.
August 31st, 2009 at 1:59 pmwow just using Clinton is enough to get the right wing up and trolls spotting out,,,,, but to have both Clinton and Gore well this really sets them off the track.
Got to like using logic with people who can not understand it.
August 31st, 2009 at 2:00 pmThanks ElBruce! :)
August 31st, 2009 at 2:00 pmJPsThoughts says:Obviously, there are always multiple versions. But multiple versions of a bill won’t sell.
you do have just a little understanding on how bills are made and passed right?
just asking.
August 31st, 2009 at 2:01 pmI think that the financial realities of the times has something to do with the apparent disorganization among the Dems. The hard fact is that it would be hard to fund, much less justify, a huge up-front cash outlay at this time. In fact, the legislation to date includes provisions for performance tests and reviews which will, ultimately, measure the success of whatever action is taken.
August 31st, 2009 at 2:02 pmI believe the Senate Finance Committee version is the only one without a public option. It may be irrelevant. The Senate could blend the Health Committee version with the House version and possibly squeak by with 50 votes. At this point, it’s not a done deal that there are even 50 votes in the Senate that will agree to some kind of public option. Remember, these people need money for TV advertising and the insurance lobby is spending over $1.3 million a day showering elected representatives with money.
There is an entrenched economic elite that is digging in to protect its enormous year-to-year profits. This was never going to be easy.
August 31st, 2009 at 2:05 pmNinerFan, they better be taking the money and then voting for the reform. This will be a career maker/breaker for many.
August 31st, 2009 at 2:10 pmHealth care reform is a no-brainer.
Anyone opposed to it has no working brain.
August 31st, 2009 at 2:11 pmMcWars says: Even though primary care physicians are not surgeons, you still have to mingle with cadavers in med school.
You might surprise yourself, McWars. I usually cringe at bloody movie violence which I know isn’t real but it’s the thought (and the dramatic set-up) that counts. And yet when I’ve encountered some pretty nasty and gruesome injuries/deaths in real life for some reason I haven’t freaked out (yet).
I’m guessing an injured person’s active distress is probably the major emotional trigger
A girlfriend of mine went to med school and took me in to see the cadavers they had to practice on. The guy I looked most closely at looked about my age and simply looked asleep, but half of his neck muscles and veins/arteries were neatly exposed. There was no blood of course, so the muscles actually looked like chicken.
I felt bad he’d died so young (from what I didn’t know) but whatever he had accomplished or failed to accomplish in his life, he was helping others even in his death (rather than just becoming compost for lawn somewhere).
August 31st, 2009 at 2:13 pmPilotshark says (to JPsThoughts): you do have just a little understanding on how bills are made and passed right? just asking.
Umm, Pilot; you do know that “talking to a dining room table” isn’t very practical, right? Just asking. :D
August 31st, 2009 at 2:18 pm5th Estate says:
Pilotshark says (to JPsThoughts): you do have just a little understanding on how bills are made and passed right? just asking.
Umm, Pilot; you do know that “talking to a dining room table” isn’t very practical, right? Just asking. :D
Awww yes but i was hoping that the dinning room table was in this universe and not the alter net one.
but i do understand oak wood tables are smarter then vernier toped ones.
August 31st, 2009 at 2:27 pmJPsThoughts @36 says:
Wow, you’re right!
Good thing the Republicans haven’t further muddied the debate by filing their own…
August 31st, 2009 at 2:41 pmI am happy to see Clinton and Gore working for health care reform. However, we do need to see more politicians, past and present, ministers, priests, and so on, getting on the health care bandwagon. If religious leaders can use their pulpit to denounce abortion and gay rights, then it would be helpful to use the pulpit to support health care as a fundamental right. Of course, hypocrisy knows no bounds.
August 31st, 2009 at 2:41 pmPilotshark says: “...but i do understand oak wood tables are smarter then vernier toped ones.”
I totally agree. You can’t learn a damned thing from a table ‘toped’ with a dead French mathematician other than the fact that a slip-jointed, contra-grain planked solid wood top would be the smarter choice for a consistent, more practical and more pleasant “dinning” experience. :D
August 31st, 2009 at 3:10 pmpags2 says: I am happy to see Clinton and Gore working for health care reform. However, we do need to see more politicians, past and present, ministers, priests, and so on, getting on the health care bandwagon.
Unfortunately (actually by design) they have to compete for time on our national forums (mass media) with the likes of ‘Sammy Joe the Plunger’, Orly Taitz, Sarah Palin. Carrie Prejean, Newt Gingrich, Dick Cheney, and any and every random gun-nut/confused fundamentalist granny/fake “Union Thug” victim, to provide just a few examples.
If the voices of reason shout loud enough to actually be noticed by the MSM, they will invariably be labeled as “shrill” or “unhinged”, just as they have been for the last 10 years (despite their various arguments and warnings having been reasoned and CORRECT thus far).
August 31st, 2009 at 3:22 pmTeam Clinton and Gore spreading doctored facts and cherry picked stats once again. Medicare is not a model of efficiency never has been.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:04 pmActually, Athena, Medicaid is a much better template but most people only know Medicare.
And please, don’t go pointing any fingers about doctored facts. Considering the Republican claims, Bill and Al could say just about anything and be more factual.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:20 pmConsidering the Death Panel crap, a cow could fart and present more honest evidence than a Republican.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:22 pmAthena, your charts are from the Heritage Foundation, so you’ve got to look carefully at their data. First of all, they put their thumb on the scale by not including anyone who gets any of the bogus “Medicare Part B”, so the numbers are skewed. But, even with their thumbs on the scale, they can’t change the numbers at the bottom of the second graph. If you look carefully, you’ll see that they’ve made administrative costs look equal graphically, but the numbers show private insurance with at least twice the cost of the Medicare administrative costs.
But, really, Athena, common sense should tell you that an industry that pays millions in compensation to their boards cannot hope to match the overhead of a public system paying public servants a good public paycheck. The private industry not only pays millions in compensation to executives, but employs tens of thousands for the express purpose of denying care. It simply cannot compete with a public, single-payer plan.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:22 pmAs far as I’m concerned if the Democrats don’t pass a package with a national, government run, non-profit health insurer then this whole exercise is a big fail. I cannot imagine being forced to buy insurance from one of these private company leaches and I will hold the Democrats accountable if they do that to us. It would be a major policy failure as well as a political disaster. With basically a super-majority in the Senate, Democratic failure on this is malpractice and ultimately Obama will be responsible. I hope he will be ready to face the consequences from me and other progressive supporters (donors!) like me.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:29 pmConsidering health care costs are on track to equal 20% of a workers income within the next ten years and about a third of that is to insure profits in a private industry, somebody best take a serious look at this.
Private insurance=30+% to profits.
Public health care= 0% to profits.
I may be math challenged but even I can wonder about that one.
August 31st, 2009 at 4:31 pmTrolls, doesn’t it bother you even a little bit that someone who took money from you for years is enjoying a steak dinner while you file for bankruptcy?
August 31st, 2009 at 4:32 pmThe moral duty argument is an automatic nonstarter in middull Murka.
When lower-, lower-middle, and a lot of middle-class white people hear there is a moral duty to do something, the first thing they think is that it’s another handout, from their taxers, to the “undeserving.” They regard it as just another ploy to spend their tax-dollars on “ni66ers.”
August 31st, 2009 at 5:43 pm5th Estate says:
Unfortunately (actually by design) they have to compete for time on our national forums (mass media) with the likes of ‘Sammy Joe the Plunger’, Orly Taitz, Sarah Palin. Carrie Prejean, Newt Gingrich, Dick Cheney, and any and every random gun-nut/confused fundamentalist granny/fake “Union Thug” victim, to provide just a few examples.
Political figures have to compete, but the religious do not. They have pulpits to appeal to the people.
August 31st, 2009 at 6:12 pmHealth care is not a right and nobody cares what al gore has to say.
August 31st, 2009 at 6:39 pmHi conservative guy. I’ll bet you already scampered… Did you already scamper or have you grown a pair?
August 31st, 2009 at 6:41 pmconservative: “Health care is not a right and nobody cares what al gore has to say.”
Well, sure, if you don’t count the Nobel Prize and Academy Award voters, the tens of millions who saw his movie and the majority of voters who chose him for President, that’s very true!
But, you should know that most of our country’s Founders actually did think health care was a right (you know, that little diddy about “promoting the general welfare”).
August 31st, 2009 at 6:51 pmThe Founding Fathers declared that we are “endowed with unalienable rights, among them are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” It seems intuitively obvious that you can’t have life or happiness without health.
August 31st, 2009 at 7:05 pmMoral duty? Really?
“A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.”
August 31st, 2009 at 7:58 pmNinerFan says:
The Founding Fathers declared that we are “endowed with unalienable rights, among them are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” It seems intuitively obvious that you can’t have life or happiness without health.
Other items you need to survive: a job, shelter, food, transportation to get to a job you need. Where does it all end?
August 31st, 2009 at 8:00 pmThere are a number of differences between health care and other types of needs.
Firstly, all other developed countries are doing a better job for less cost by using public plans. Insisting that our method “works better” than theirs in some vaugue way, when they continue to do a better job for less cost, is just plain crazy.
Secondly, there’s really only one way to insure health care: collect premiums and pay for care. There’s no innovation there, no different kinds of services or goods being provided. Just collect and pay. Therefore, there’s no variability for a free market to take advantage of. In addition, health care is constrained by the fact that a provider must provide care to someone in an emergency situation. Without blatantly and openly letting people die in emergency waiting rooms, the free market isn’t “free” and therefore doesn’t worked in a normal unconstrained fashion.
Finally there’s a national economic interest in fixing health care. This isn’t just about individual interest, as a nation the way we do health care today is acting as a massive drain on the rest of our economy. All other industries, from small business to large corporations, are suffering spiraling overhead costs in order to maintain even declining levels of employer-based coverage. Regardless of the direct costs of health care itself, the overhead costs that the health care industry inflicts on all other industries is completely sapping our economy.
Regardless of talk of individual rights, there are still plenty of simply purely logical reasons to establish a rational public health care system. I understand Republicans’ desire to prevent regular folks from getting anything good for any reason, and that they have a natural allergy to compassion, but they’re just going to have to suck up to it and do something nice for once anyways.
August 31st, 2009 at 11:21 pmkwsventures says:
Moral duty? Really?
“A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.”
“A conservative is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow corporate greed monkeys, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.”
Fixed for accuracy. :)
September 1st, 2009 at 12:11 amconservative: “Health care is not a right and nobody cares what al gore has to say.”
I expect this kind of anti-humanitarian/anti-American dribble coming from a turd who stands behind a former DICTATOR ( I refuse to call Bush President) who, on record said “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
So to you healthcare is a privlege reserved only for the wealthy and that you don’t give a hoot that constitution says in the preamble that…
And the Declaration of Independence says…
If both recommend that our government should promote the general welfare of the people of the United States, how does healthcare become exempt in the promotion of the general welfare of the people who need it the most?
In essense little troll, your rant that healthcare is not a right is a red herring and fails on every level.
I like to see the looks on your face when you ever become sickened and your for profit HIP denies you the treatment you need because of a so-called “pre-existing condition and that you have to spend all your life savings to save yourself at the risk of losing your home, then come back here to TP and say that “healthcare is not a right” then.
September 1st, 2009 at 12:31 amIn other words conservative troll…. What goes around comes around.
THINK between your ears. Think NOT between your legs (although it makes your dick hard every time you see Sarah Palins face on Fox News)!
September 1st, 2009 at 12:37 amCh-ching!!!
September 1st, 2009 at 3:11 amWelcome back, unamusinghypocrite. It’s pretty funny considering the blog name you use and your purported career as a middle school teacher that you’ve never heard of the adverb “hypocritically.” Try Random House’s dictionary, for one, or even your computer’s spelling check, and then be amused by your own hypocrisy. As one of TP’s former trolls would say, “Toodles.”
September 1st, 2009 at 8:06 amThis conversation here is lame. Cutting through the crap, Democratic politicians and especially Pres. Obama beware: if you abandon the public option in spite of large Democratic majorities in Congress, there will be hell to pay. I will NEVER vote Republican but I sure won’t fight for your political future. What would be the point? And I don’t think I am alone in thinking this way. Get it done!
September 1st, 2009 at 10:00 amYep, whether it’s workable models in other countries, or good fundamental economics, or even a case for a compelling national interest, it has seemed that at every turn of the ’spin wheel’ the opposition was ready to defeat every specific tact of the health care reform arguments! Sherlock Holmes, and Doctor Watson had done the best that they could to solve the ‘unsolvable’; but both those learned and dedicated professionals knew their literary advosaries well, and in their problem-solving hearts, they readily admitted that ‘Moriarity’ was ’smarter than they’, and was a times more powerful!? (sometimes book knowledge, beats all!!)
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