Gingrey: Obama should vow to veto any health care bill with a public option.
Gingrey: Obama should vow to veto any health care bill with a public option.
On MSNBC today, Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA) argued that if President Obama wanted to find a “bipartisan” health care solution, he should vow to veto any reform legislation that contains a public option or a co-op. “Let’s don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good,” said Gingrey. “Let’s remove the public option, and also anything that smacks of a public option, like a co-op. And indeed, I will veto that if it comes to my desk with that in there.” Watch it:
Gingrey claimed that the American people “are rejecting the public option,” but this isn’t supported by public opinion. Last month, SurveyUSA found that 77 percent of Americans support a “choice” between a government-run health care insurance option and private coverage. Gingrey also says that a bill without a public option would be “a good bill that we can all agree on,” but a significant amount of Democrats will not agree to a bill without a public option.
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Do these Repigs EVER read opinion polls? Or do they just want to LIE all the time?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 pmstraws, just grasping at straws. That seems to be all they have left.
They feel the noose tightening around their necks now.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:33 pmGingrey is a moron and a dingaling.
That POS should get our more, and learn about folks who can afford to pay health insurance premiums, but who have been dumped by health insurers due to illness or pre-existing condition.
What does the nasty little repiggie have to offer these folks?
Absolutely nothing – sort of a variant on NO, NO and NO.
What good are repiggies like Gingrey anyway?
They are stupid, nasty and just take up valuable time and space.
Why won’t Gingrey give up his own “socialist” health care policy?
What a loathesome POS he is!
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:34 pmDo they even try to tell the truth? I mean, I would understand blatant lies if they were just ignorant of reality, as in the case of many of the sheeple at the teabagging rallies and town halls, but the high-level politicians that come out with the lie machine turned up to 11 is just insulting.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:36 pmAddition:
What makes this moron think that a man who campaigned on the public option, was elected in large part because of support for healthcare reform that includes a public option, and has the good sense to recognize reality would ever even consider vetoting a bill that includes it?
How far up one’s ass must their head be in order to arrive at this statement?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:37 pmBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
(ralph wipes eyes)
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:38 pmGreatGranny2B says:
Do these Repigs EVER read opinion polls? Or do they just want to LIE all the time?
It should be very obvious by now, the Republicans will never speak the truth and waste a good lie.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:38 pmThese people are simply loathesome.
Good grief.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:38 pmvetoting
Oops. LOL
Make that “vetoing”…looks silly, but yes, it’s a real word, properly spelled.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:39 pmhell i bet you like it as well if he just veto himself right.
talking about not seeing the forest threw the trees here but this guy could not hit water with a paddle while on a lake.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:39 pmThe thing is we all know he is a liar.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:40 pmHe will not vote for ANY health reform bill no matter what the Dems take out.
This is not about fixing health care or reforming health care insurance, it is all about the Republicans proving that they can beat President Obama. It is about damaging the Dems for 2010.
That’s it.
and I am confused why “blue Dogs” do not see how they are being used to bolster the Republican party.
Wow, talk about opposite. In reality, single payer is the perfect and PO is the good.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:41 pmObama made concessions on the stimulus for the republicans, and they still didn’t vote for it. Numerous concessions were made to the Omnibus supplemental – specifically requested by GOP leadership and they still voted against it. We’ve seen this time and time again over the last nine months. Putting in concessions to win GOP votes does nothing to actually win those votes. They are just trying to weaken legislation that they know is going to pass anyway.
So put some teeth in it. Forget about pleasing the GOP and build a strong bill. Then use budget reconciliation to avoid a GOP filibuster. There is no reason this could not be accomplished by the end of this month.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pmLet me get this straight… Gingrey is suggesting that the President veto a bill that he supports because Republicans don’t like it…?
That IS what he suggesting, right?
Jeez, these guys are way, WAY out of touch.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pmblackwidow says:
and I am confused why “blue Dogs” do not see how they are being used to bolster the Republican party.
I am as well but maybe the Blue dogs are part of the bolstering of the republican party.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pmGeorgians, please veto any chance to vote for Gingrey in 2010.
Reach down deep & just say no to corporate idiocracy.
It’s your public option!
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pmMaybe Obama should go ahead and vow that if the bill ever reaches his desk with a public option, he will veto it, and then be like the Republicans and lie and NOT veto it….
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:49 pm“Let’s don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good,” said Gingrey.
Without a public option OR a co-op?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:50 pmThat would not be good.
That would be NOTHING.
Anyone else reminded of that scene in Blazing Saddles where Cleavon Little holds himself hostage?
‘Promise to veto this bill or we’ll vote against it!’
‘Better listen, they’re just crazy enough to do it!’
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:50 pmI wish Gingrey would try doing without health insurance. It would wise him up quick, fast and in a hurry.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:50 pmCorrection: Obama should veto any health care bill without a public option.
Fixed it for you Grinchy.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:51 pmDoes Gingrey think Obama is crazy? We want a public option, many of us voted for him because of just this. The American people, you know, as in “We the people..” want a public option. The Republicans think that a compromise means that we do just as they say. They had 8 years to reform health care and they did nothing but take campaign donations from the insurance companies. Just get out of the way, Republicans, and let health care reform be passed now, including a public option. Let’s make health care non-profit, like it should have been from day one.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:53 pmThank you, Mr. Gingrey.
I’m sure you’re the first source the WH is looking to for advice, so your timing was perfect – as usual.
Where would the President be without thoughtful advisors like Mr. Gingrey??
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pmElected liars
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pmThickened rind between the lobes
Thought-balloon says: Duh
Ok – somebody help me out here. Why is it that we only hear all these same type of comments by repugs, and “sometimes “blue-dog” dems? Where the hell are the rest of the people in congress? There are some, like Barney Franks, who aren’t afraid to stand up to this garbage onslaught, but damnit, these pukes LOST THE DAMN ELECTION – why the hell can’t the dems act like they actually WON?
Oh – and on top of that, the White House seems to come out with about 40 differing views every day – I just don’t get it.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:57 pmDid we expect anything less from Limbaugh’s favourite chew toy?
What is it with Georgia politicians with last names starting with “Ging”? They all seem so…pompous and windbag-y.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 pmHey MSNBC
Why don’t you have Dennis Kucinich on,
to advise Republicans.
They really, really need some help these days.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 pmCheeseFlap, yet again your haikus say more than paragraphs of prose ever could.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:01 pmWhen they were in the majority, they got ‘bipartisanship’ on things like the patriot act by bullying, inferring that voting against was only for terrorist sympathizers and unpatriotic. So, like two-year-olds that throw a tantrum and get their way, they have this idea that it had nothing to do with bully tactics, but was actually compromise from healthy debate. They see the previous end result as bipartisan since ds voted for the knee-jerk-response laws, so it must be that the leeway comes from the liberal side.
The terrible twos usually end, and that’s the difference. These guys can’t get away from the insinuations or false implications.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:03 pm.
So,
Bipartisan means doing it the way the (R)epublicans want it done?
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September 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 pmI’m amazed that Gingrey took his mouth of Limbaugh’s love torpedo long enough to say anything!
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 pmThe Republicans seem to have redefined “bipartisan” as “any thing they want they will vote for; but, any thing the Democrats want they will vote against.” To even give these fools these opportunities to undermine the country is ridiculous. They don’t have a clue what the term “good faith” means. People who do not work in “good faith” to do what is best for the country don’t deserve to even be acknowledged.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:05 pm.
Shorter Phil Gingrey:
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Sorry Gingrey elections have consequences and you are in the tiny minority now. I tell you what, all Republican lawmakers are welcome to show THEIR undying devotion to bi-partisanship by embracing the public option…no, DEMANDING a public option and screaming your support at the top of your lungs and maybe we’ll let some of you sit at the negotiating table some time in the future. Maybe knocking off the lies, distortions, obstructions and utter bullshit. For now just sit down and shut your piehole. You and your failed party are in no standing to make demands mkay?
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:08 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
The republicans should first perform a complete mea culpa for the untold losses of blood and treasure when trumped up falsehoods (read lies) were crammed down the throat of the american people to hunt for something that wasn’t there in a land that didn’t attack us.
The tide is turning on the healthcare issue. The right spewed all they could about the fears and now the truth is being told. I just hope the democrats can unify behind one bill and properly present it to the public.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:08 pmThanks for adding one more turd to the pile, AJ.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:09 pmThe U.S.S. Constitution is now a booklet? Hmm. Republicans, Birthers, Deathers, Teabaggers, Tenthers and other right-wing Nincompoops seem to love getting raped and reamed by private insurance companies. Are they all stupid, insane or just masochistic?
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:10 pmMe: I like cake
You: I like ice cream
US: Let’s have cake and ice cream.
That how bipartisanship looks like.
Instead,
Phil Gingrey: I don’t want a flour based cake that’s gonna clash with my sorbet. Get me that treat and I’ll call that bipartisan.
At which point the sane ones say, “O.K. More cake and ice cream for me. Thanks.” :)
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September 2nd, 2009 at 3:10 pmDoes he even know how to identify himself in the mornings?? He’s clearly taking some new meds…
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:11 pmralph,
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:12 pmThe more AJ posts…
… The more the turds pile up.
Sure Mr. Gingrey-we take every thing you say serious. Honest!
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:13 pmAnother Jerk says:
“In the end, TP readers just end up staring at the same pile of turds.”
You have succinctly described your posts Joe, thanks. Now if you don’t like this site, please feel free to exercise your personal option and LEAVE!
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:13 pmAnother Joe, you say it’s Obama and the Dems that sold us out but you don’t say to whom we were sold out to. Is it the insurance companies? Doubt that, they are pumping millions into lobbying against any healthcare reform. Is it the oil industry? Hardly, we still can’t see the meeting list of Cheney’s energy meetings.
Please provide more than bold type of hollow words.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:17 pmMost media opinion journalists just let LIES go unchallenged, and that’s the problem . .
Anyone know if Reich or the host challenged Gingrey’s poll #’s he just pulled outta his butt?
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:17 pmMichelle Bachman and her fellow GOP cult members are cutting their wrists?
I think that’s a great idea!
I’m so inspired by their patriotism, I might wave a flag while I watch it on Utube.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pmOr less. I’d support much, much less from AJ.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pmSit on this Gingrey you f#$king fascist traitor.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pmSomehow, I think that if Gingrey had been around 45 years ago, he would have told President Johnson that he should vow to veto any civil rights legislation that banned racial segregation. Just to work toward a “bipartisan solution”, you know.
And I can just imagine what LBJ’s reaction would have been…
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 pmblackwidow says: #11
And I’ll add that it’s also about all the blood money the insurance companies graciously hand out to any filthy, shitbag politician that spews lies and anything else against healthcare reform.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:20 pmConsidering the fact that the House is in recess and the three bills in committee are in abeyance until they return, and considering that all three still contain a robust public option; who is Obama “throwing under the bus” again?
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:20 pmWE the PEOPLE should have the same choices that those bozos have in Congress. Either that or revoke their health care so that they have to buy it themselves and if they have “pre-existing” conditions, they can’t get any at all. Lets see how many change their puny minds after that. They are nothing but a bunch of schmucks.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:21 pmmisscoleopteramolly,
I have the feeling that if LBJ were still around the entire GOP would be in jail and/or out of work.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:22 pmPLanet stupid is starting to get crowded…another jerk has applied for admission…
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:22 pmI just saw the Steney Hoyer town hall where a moron asked about tort reform. It seems these astroturfers are going to keep repeating the same stupid questions on health care. All these questions have been asked and answered. Personally, I would have asked when Congress is going to pass a bill banning the freecreditreport.com commercials.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:23 pmSince when have Repubs ever given a damn about public opinion?
Since they became an impotent minority, that’s when.
These arrogant fools still attempt to dictate terms, as if they were still a majority. Just because the 23% of the public against reform screams the loudest, they believe that constitutes some imaginary “majority.”
They really are delusional, living in the past.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:27 pm“Let’s don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good”
Hey, Rep Gingrey just said the public option is the perfect solution! Thank you for your support!
Moran.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:28 pmSo, for the Repubs< “good” means: no public option but, presumably also no insurance industry regulation but a lot more subsidies.
See how fun it can be when you have most of the money and 99.9% of the media.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pmObama should Gingrey to go fcuk himself.
If he won’t, then I will…Gingrey, go fcuk yourself.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:30 pmPhil Gingrey’s official email address: gingrey.ga@mail.house.gov
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:31 pmSince most of us visit this forum for entertainment I must assume that Another Joe is one of those sick, joyless, phucks who scowl every time they hear a child laugh. I’ve spent most of my life clashing with people who can’t have fun and resent it when others have fun. I often feel sorry for them but it seldom displaces the disgust.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:31 pmGingrey should go back to kissing Limbaugh’s ass and then apologize for no reason at all, or maybe just because it feels good to him……….
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:33 pmGeorge Armstrong Custer gives the Indians one last chance to surrender.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:35 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
as opposed to “A conservative is someone who feels a great debt to the moneyed classes, a debt he proposes to pay off with your money…”
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:46 pmkwsventures
a conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs that refuses to walk forward. FDR
at least reference your quotes, oh yeah, you want us to think that you are smart….heh.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:46 pmI just thought of a great catch-all for GOoPers, Reichwhiners, and trolls.
AMINO: AMericans In Name Only
Spread it around if it catches your fancy.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:47 pmI wonder if the stupid troll has read any of the authors he quote-mines. Very few of them are/were conservatives and many were progressive revolutionaries to some extent. And I have yet to see him quote anyone who would not recognize the sheer madness of the GOP.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:48 pmkwsventures says:
God you are such a disgusting and ignorant punkass troll
the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. Galbraith
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pmI cut that quote off
Modern conservatives engage in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy: the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. Galbraith
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:52 pmHow’s the Lockheed stock doing, Gingrey?
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:01 pmObama should vow to veto any health care bill with a public option.
What a win to the insurance industry and GNOP if Obama did this. Isn’t the public option an option to provide affordable health care and to keep the insurers in check, those of us in the know desperately want? I wonder how stupid one has to be to not realize this.
Another big win would be a bill getting vetoed because public option was not in it and therefore no bill and business as usual.
To those on the right, this is all and only about greed, power and a GNOP take over…. not the safety, survival and lives of Americans.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:07 pmObama should veto any bill WITHOUT a public option. I dont however think he has that kind of committment to progressive policies
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:10 pmkwsventures, just because you repeat and repeat and repeat your devastating quotes ad nauseum doesn’t mean that you don’t have to include attribution anymore.
It still makes you look like a plagiarist when you quote someone with out identifying the source.
(ralph shakes his head, realizing the futility of trying to appeal to a sense of dignity and credibility with a troll who has neither.)
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 pmHe’s a Rush Limbaugh apologist.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pmWe would be lesser men if we didn’t try, on occasion, to appeal to the human side of our pet trolls, ralph. There’s always the chance that one will strike a nerve or, at least, provide some information they wouldn’t have learned otherwise. Heck! Even if they refuse to act upon it, it would be ignoble to deprive them of our wisdom.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:21 pmI was really moved by a segment Rachel Maddow ran yesterday.
It was about one of the innocent victims who was shot in the Physical fitness class a couple weeks ago ( three women were killed and the shooter shot himself).
This young girl, 22 years old, was shot in the leg. She was too old to be covered by her parents health care plan…and since she just graduated from college and has yet to land a job…she is one of the 47 million Uninsured Americans.
Her friends and neighbors organized a car wash/fund raiser for her, netting about $500 to help cover her medical expenses, which no doubt included astronomical emergency room and hospitalization costs.
She is now on crutches, facing huge Debt, unemployed and Uninsured.
In the wealthiest country in the world. Grrrr
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:49 pmOK guys, this went over my head.
Obama has fought for a public option. The people want a public option (or even a single-payer national insurance).
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Therefore Obama should veto a bill that has a public option.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:57 pmMapleStreet says:
That is Republican “doublethink.”
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:06 pm“Gingrey claimed that the American people “are rejecting the public option,”
Uhhh…Mr. Goofy…you are full of bull-cr*p!
GO HERE and tell Goofy he’s lying.
http://gingrey.house.gov/
and while you are there, BE SURE and read the July 31, 2009 article! It simply has to be a joke!
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:44 pmA conservative is somebody who talks about hard-earned money and starts to rant about social parasites–and is nonplussed when people think he’s talking about rich kids living off their trust funds.
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:46 pmso just what does kwsventures produce? Is it a product or a service. Maybe no such business exists. Who knows….
September 2nd, 2009 at 6:18 pmdbadass says:
Dr Venture produces ignorance and trollturds.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 pmAs I see it, Republicans can either accept the public option or the Dems can regulate the shite out of the insurance industry where no one is turned down for pre-existing conditions and the profits that the insurance companies make are minimized to the hilt.
Other than that, I don’t know of any other kind reform that would be worthwhile.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:58 pmI have an equally “reasonable” proposition.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:31 pmIf the Republicans want to demonstrate a willingness to promote bipartisanship, they should all immediately resign their elected offices.
Senator Foghorn
September 3rd, 2009 at 9:02 amkwsventures says:
Dr Venture a MORON is someone like YOU that posts the same thing over and over because you KNOW you are too stupid to think for yourself and you think it is clever. By the way it isnt clever it is stupid but then so are you.
John Kenneth Galbraith
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.
Why are you such a putrid ignorant punkass troll?
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:54 pmvery thanks for article!
September 4th, 2009 at 10:19 amAnd they wonder why they’re losing support even from the moderate Repbulican(t)s?
September 4th, 2009 at 10:37 pm