Steele Dismisses Woman Whose Mother Died Of Cancer: ‘It Makes For Great TV. You’ll Probably Make It. … Enjoy.’
Steele Dismisses Woman Whose Mother Died Of Cancer: ‘It Makes For Great TV. You’ll Probably Make It. … Enjoy.’
RNC Chairman Michael Steele has strongly condemned Democrats who have criticized the town hall protests by opponents of health care reform. Last month, Steele said:
We are not inciting anyone to go out and destroy anything. We’re not organizing the town halls; their senators are. But instead of focusing on the fact that people are genuinely concerned about what is going on, this administration has the arrogance, the arrogance to look down at my mother, to look down at my co-worker.
Yesterday at Howard University, Steele encountered his own “genuinely concerned” citizen — 23-year-old college grad/activist Amanda Duzak. Duzak stood up and interrupted Steele, arguing that “everyone in this country should have access to good health care” and cited the case of her own mother who died of cancer six months ago because she couldn’t afford her prescription chemotherapy medications. The audience applauded her.
Steele responded by chastising Duzak and accusing her of pulling antics to get on TV. “So people go out to town halls, they go to the community, and they’re like this. (SHAKES ARMS) It makes for great TV. You’ll probably make it tonight. Enjoy it.” The audience immediately went “Ohhh” and “Oooo.” Watch it:
On the Huffington Post, Dave Zirin also notes that Steele’s “effort to connect with young black students got off to a rather cringe-worthy start when right before the billed ’student dialogue’ two dozen white members of area young Republicans arrived to sit in the reserved first two rows of the packed room.”
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with mike steele on our side
how can we lose?
:)
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:33 pmWOW>>>>> we can bring it nut pleases we can not handle it ourself s cause we only think we are badass`s.
Shaking my head what a ignorant moron.
but kinda glad to see more people speaking up and cheering for our side.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:35 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Ah, another fine example of compassionate conservatism. I hope someone is compiling a videography of these Repugnants talking down to needy Americans for the 2010 elections. I don’t know what’s worse, Repugnants doing this kind of shit or fools like McCain who are just too afraid to face the public and hold closed door THINOs with friendly audiences. Just more proof (as if we needed more) that the Republic Party has no answers and just doesn’t give a shit about the troubles of average Americans.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:36 pmThanks for your concern, Another Joe. We will give your post as much thought as we do the comments of your other brothers Joe, Scarborough and the Plumber.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:38 pmSteele Dismisses Woman Whose Mother Died Of Cancer: ‘It Makes For Great TV. You’ll Probably Make It. … Enjoy.’
– - re: The video…memo to Tim Kaine (remember HIM?):
Copy. Clip. Edit. Saturate the airwaves with Steele’s foot in his mouth.
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#3,
thank you for your “concern”.
:)
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:39 pmThey can dish it out but they can’t take it. What a condescending pr*ck.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 pmAnother Joe says:
Oh man a caring troll who figure it all out, So en lighting us please what has He or they told you that we all need to know.
I know those bus`s hurt and all.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 pmIt doesn’t look easy to yell at the ever so stupid GOPers…you can go here,
Republican National Committee
310 First Street
Washington, D. C. 20003
p/202.863.8500
f/202.863.8820
info@gop.com
or…snoop around the site from here,
http://www.rnc.org/
GIVE’UM HELL!
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:41 pmMichael Steele is right in one regard. This will make great TV – just not the way he thinks. For further information, see tonight’s Keith Olbermann’s Worst Person segment.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:41 pmArrogance at its worst.
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#1,
with mike steele and another joe on our side
how can we lose?
(appended)
:)
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:41 pmGo home bartlebee. No one has sold us out yet and for you to imply that they have shows how calous you are and how determined you are to make dems look like reps.
This thing is in its early stages and how do you explain the fact that the discussion is being had? I thought so.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 pmUh oh PatrioticLiberalChristian and joe cantwell, now you’re going to be grouped into the “clique” that AJ is being “persecuted by”.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 pmIt’s sort of indicative of the state of the Republican Party when the ‘assumed’ leader is more concerned with how something plays on television then with actually listening to the concerns of the people.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 pmJoe Schmo says: “Why all the coverage of a the repug whackos”
Because whackos is all you have left idiot! These “whackos” are running the Republicant Party. Steele is the leader, Grassley is on the finance committee. Jeez Joe, say it ain’t so! The whackos of which you refer are all that’s left of the GOP and they’re running the show. Is there a Republican left who is NOT a whacko Joe? Because I sure as hell haven’t seen one!
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:43 pmummmmmmmmm…..that’s called being DEATH PANELED
don’t you just love the moves made by the RNC chessboard master? we peons can only stand back and guess at what grandiose, behind- the- scenes move this is.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:44 pm.
LIE-CHEAT-STEELE
Your NEW G(no)P!
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September 2nd, 2009 at 1:44 pmSteele is such an a-hole.
He should hear the way the white repiggies really talk when he leaves the room
They don’t like Negroes, even though they are happy to have Steele in his Uncle Tom role.
I know how those white boys talk. I am one. They change their tune the minute a non-white or a smart woman enters the room.
They just presume that every white guy feels the same way they do about non-whites.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:44 pmOh no. The clique is getting to big to be a clique. What now AJ?
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:44 pmWow, the compassionate conservatives are really coming out of the woodwork, aren’t they?
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:46 pmHis cruelty is appalling. Just when I thought I’d heard it all…. Wish we could force the corporate media to air his comment. No, I’m not holding my breath.
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the “whackos” run the party.
:|
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:48 pmAside from being a totally dickish move, considering the amount of time Steele spends on TV shooting his mouth off on a regular basis…I don’t think he should be criticizing a voter for trying to be heard for a few seconds.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:50 pmYes Athena – Because we’re all rabid moonbats, who just want to make your children into gay communists.
But you already knew that, didn’t you?
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:50 pmWe’ve been having this healthcare reform debate in earnest for the past 6 months and Michael Steele is just now telling his son, graduating from college, that he has to get his own insurance? And he presumes the authority to lecture US?
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:51 pmAthena says:
Now the left is championing interruptions?
Now the right is championing mothers dying of cancer because of lack of access to health care?
Wait, what do I mean, ‘now?‘
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:52 pmThat’s what the right has been doing all along…
Yes, Athena, we are advocating coitus interruptus, i.e. when the GOP is attempting to screw us, we will interupt.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:53 pm@ Athena:
There is nothing wrong with interuptions. The issue was corporate sponsored lynch mobs who didn’t want to take part in a discussion. They just wanted to shout and PREVENT a discussion from occurring.
As far as I know, no pro-health reform lefties have tried to kill the town halls, brought guns to meetings, chased the officials out to their cars, yelled at and intimidated other members of the public from speaking their own opinions, OR shouted endlessly about something they know NOTHING about and not allowed the official from even answering.
Nice try, though. You can now go back to whatever birther/deather group you belong to and watch some Glen Beck.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:53 pmOur Athena does not do justice to the Greek god of wisdom.
September 2nd, 2009 at 1:55 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I know the progressive movement would like to rid this country of capitalism and create even more social programs. But, I wouldn’t use the term Communist, Socialist is more fitting.
How do you ‘know’ this exactly?
Where are the ’socialists’ getting rid of capitalism anywhere in the world?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:01 pmMr Steele needs to crawl back under the rock he came from. Where is your compassion, your Christian consideration of others, your ?????
Oh thats right, you are a Repuglican, sorry, I forgot, you have no compassion, intelegence or morals.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:01 pmI have to say, this topic is close to my heart, and not because I have suffered from the lack of health insurance or watched family members who have. On the contrary – it is because of modern medicine available right here in the US that my mother has not died from ovarian cancer, despite being diagnosed in Stage 3B 10 years ago this month (95% 5-year survival rate, she doubled that). It is, in fact, because of the comprehensive health insurance and supplemental insurance plans that my family did not go bankrupt.
No, the reason it is sensitive to me is not because of what I have or have no experienced, but rather the recognition that my family, my mother, myself…we are nothing special. We are fortunate to have good jobs which provide insurance, though the cost to us has been very high (think $700 a month for family coverage after the single portion is paid in full by the employer).
The reason it is important to me is because I know that there are millions of people who can’t get the kind of care my mother got. There are millions of people who will go bankrupt trying to treat an ill family member.
There is no excuse to not provide affordable health care to every American citizen. There are debateable points on how to do that effectively, but there is no excuse not to do it.
I find Steele’s comments deeply offensive and cruel, as the child of a cancer survivor, the loved one of those who didn’t survive, and a human being who gives a damn about the well-being of those less fortunate than myself.
To sum up, there are only three words I have for Mr. Steele:
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:02 pmF**K YOU, BUDDY.
How would you help other people like this woman’s mother, Athena?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:02 pmThere is no excuse to not provide affordable health care to every American citizen. There are debateable points on how to do that effectively, but there is no excuse not to do it.
Right on Smidget.
Exactly.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:03 pmOnce again you show just how detached from wisdom that you are.
Capitalism does just fine with democrats at the helm. Business would just rather have slaves and that’s not the American way.
Why do you hate America?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:03 pmCrooks & liars has a good video of a counter-teabag protest
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:04 pmtitled “billionaires for wealthcare.” They really are clueless
Athena, I applaud you for the courage you have shown in expressing, in the words of Rumsfeld, your “known unknowns”. Feel free to air your errors, such as knowing “the progressive movement would like to rid this country of capitalism”. It is refreshing to see someone so open to public confession of ignorance, which is the beginning of the path to enlightenment.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:05 pmIt is a fcking disgrace.
That is what the GOPigs have been reduced, to disgust.
It is the time for you stupid fks GOPigs to run and try to form a new party. On the base of the crap you still spew.
F-U MORONS.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:05 pmJust one small example to show you why this is fallacy.
The dow under Clinton went from 8000 to 11000
The dow under bush went from 11000 to 6000
Do you want to talk about the numbers of jobs created during those two administrations?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:08 pmBoy, the level of distain the republicans have consistently shown toward “real Americans” is truly distasteful. Add steele to the “great white hope” womans comments the other day, and you have a party that truly doesn’t give a rats patootie about “real Americans” and their plight with health care. Disgusting.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 pmHow can one person do so many things that are reprehensible in 30 seconds ?
*) Saying the people speaking at meetings wave their arms to get noticed despite knowing the republican astroturfing
*) Turning their nose down at someone because their mother had cancer
*) Being flippant about the same
*) Continuing to ignore his own role in astroturfing
*) While ignoring the person whose mother had cancer, blaming the Obama administration for being arrogant.
Oh, and yesterday apparently my comment came across wrong. My point was that if the good Congressman gives these rather passionate numbers of how Medicare is so good (and by the way, the statistics back him up), then it seems like the dems should be going full steam forward in making a single-payer national health insurance system.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 pmSteele couldn’t quite steal the show, eh?
The disturbing part of this is that he dismissed this young lady’s concerns, which were entirely pertinent, as an ‘act’, while he is the designated Clown for the RNC circus.
Steele does the clown role well, but he doesn’t know that the RNC will soon pack up it’s tent & move to another ‘barker’.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:10 pmI know the progressive movement would like to rid this country of capitalism and create even more social programs. But, I wouldn’t use the term Communist, Socialist is more fitting.
You know what Athena, if you have such a problem with social programs, then how about you pack up and leave SOCIETY. Leave all the comforts and priveledges that SOCIETY provides for you like clean water, roads, police, firemen, etc. and move yourseld out to a cabin in the woods somewhere. Become a Hermit, and see how far you get. Let’s see how much of a self-made, one-man island you truly are.
The problem with Republicans is they feed off of all the priveledges that society presents, and then when they have had their fill, they talk big about how they are self-made and try to take those same priveledges away from other people.
You know what? If you are so hateful of society and the social programs (or, GASP, socialism) then leave. Start your own one man nation and be totally self sufficient. Nobody is stopping you.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:11 pmMy thanks to both Amandas. To Miss Duzak, thanks for standing up and showing the real death panels in place now. And to Miss Terkel for showing the flip and the flop of Mr. Steele.
The truth is getting out. Insurance companies have been between us and our doctors for years. It’s time to end the profit over health industry.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:12 pm.
Dear Athena Joe…
… Er, Another Athena…
… Er, you know who you are,
When you say, “it is YOUR GUY that is throwing progressives under the bus,” you’re not keeping that partisan divide alive, are you?
p.s.
Welcome back. Albeit a bit disappointed, though…
… I thought you left. Oh well :/
And to your doppelganger,
You do realize that WITH socialized medicine, WHEN your private insurance refuses to cover your life saving treatment, at least I’ll know you won’t be sucking off mother’s teet BECAUSE YOU’RE AGAINST IT, NO?
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September 2nd, 2009 at 2:12 pm1) the “free market” is supported by the GOP as the only solution.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:12 pm2) the ‘free market” killed that woman’s mother because the medicine was too expensive.
3) the GOP = death panels
@#11 – Hot damn! Did you get a firm commitment back from the show?
Sort of O/T……but don’t know how else to get the info out – this is from another website:
This little tidbit is going viral. Says that on Obama’s site, “Organizing for America”, Obama is calling for 9/11 to be a day to “fight back against our own Right-Wing Domestic Terrorists who are subverting the American Democratic Process, whipped to a frenzy by their Fox Propaganda Network ceaselessly re-seizing power for their treacherous leaders.”
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2009/09/01/obama-campaign-organization-plans-911-event-to-fight-right-wing-domestic-terrorists/comment-page-1/#comment-124835
Well, the thing is that no such page exists. It looks like it DID exist but it was a personal page made using one of the “Organizing for America” tools that allows you to post events. There is no doubt in my mind that someone from the crazy pool posted the piece, took a screen shot, started sending it everywhere and then the page got deleted by site moderators. But, by then, the damage was done.
The comments on the sites that are now posting this insanity are frightening. They are locked and loaded and ready to hit the streets. This has got to be combatted, but how? Fighting back with facts won’t work because they feel everyone’s paid off by Obama. I’ve been posting the fact that the page doesn’t exist and trying to be a voice of calm. Haven’t seen responses yet. Hopefully other sane voices will join in.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:13 pmAs if by magic
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:14 pmSteele suddenly wants discourse
Praise be to jesus
I just love playing Athena’s “Gotcha Game”!!
It reminds me of Jr. High, and I love me some nostalgia.
I just wish there was some way we could apply the same thing to The Right – but they’re so consistent, and honest, and effective, and free from flaws that it simply can’t be done.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:16 pmFirst, how dare he sit two rows or white republicans in the front of an Historic BLACK college. Second, Sambo is a sale out. Note to Howard- DO NOT INVITE SAMBO AGAIN !
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:19 pmbelaccifer lacca says:
How would you help other people like this woman;s mother Athena?
I know, I know. Let me answer for Athena.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:20 pmAthena says: If they are like to die, then they should die and decrease the surplus population.
When in doubt, demean.
Who should the Republican Party thanks for Michael Steele’s bizarre antics? It’s Jeff Burton, of Rep. Mike Conaway’s office. Jeff floated the idea, according to a news piece.
The Conaway-Burton pair also uncovered the Chris Ward embezzlement of Republican campaign donations.
Repugnican’ts have much to be ashamed of, Steele is just the latest. I truly believe people are turning off to politics in a huge way.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:22 pmAthena says:
I know the progressive movement would like to rid this country of capitalism and create even more social programs. But, I wouldn’t use the term Communist, Socialist is more fitting.
From you comments, it is obvious you really do not KNOW anything.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:22 pmTry turning off Faux newz and actually educating yourself about the issues.
Steele is a good example of the poor social judgment that afflicts the Right in America.
Forgive me, but it’s hard not to think about psychological disorders when you’re talking about wingnuts. The Right have a plethora of mental and behavioral disorders, which I am busily naming and defining–nazitis, masturbatory gloating, verbal incontinence, selective memory loss, egos as big as the Queen Mary, misogyny, dissociation, fear of government, a crippling obsession with gays, xenophobia, a tendency to commit treason, creepiness, etc. These are some sick puppies.
Wingers also have the ability to pull things out of their butts and then turn around and believe them. But that’s more of a special ability than an affliction–see below.
Because they are mostly white guys, the Right also have special powers denied to others, and these, too, I am feverishly delineating.
Special Rightwing Abilities include a vastly overdeveloped herd instinct, the ability to read liberals’ minds, the ability to foresee a rosy future no matter how screwed you are, the ability to turn to “the Dark Side” and still be righteous, the ability to hold Bill Clinton responsible for everything under heaven–that sort of thing.
Kingdom of the Democrats
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:23 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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#59,
you didn’t answer the question.
:|
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:24 pmAthena says:
Can you find a ‘Government takeover of health insurance’ anywhere in HR3200 or any of the other bills before Congress?
I can’t…
more’s the pity.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:26 pmI see the troll Athena is not actually here to discuss the issues, but rather to try to label progressives and put them in the tiny box of her assumptions about them.
Vote it down and Flag away, accordingly
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:28 pmMany progressives own businesses and many own several pieces of real estate.
We have no problem with the “market” as such.
We have a problem with the self-serving monopoly and cabal that is the health insurance “market.”
It’s no longer a market; there is no competition.
There is no place to go when you have been dumped by one of these insurers.
There is just no other option.
What do folks like Athena just fail to comprehend about that?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:30 pmAs joe has pointed out, you didn’t answer the first set of questions about the first set of lies you told.
Now you just posit another lie.
prove or show evidence that the government has taken over any oil companies.
Do you know anything that is true?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:30 pmAthena:
Are you under the impression that healthcare and oil companies are the only capitalistic industries in this country?
How much protesting have you done regarding the disgusting government takeover of the highway systems, utilities, schools, police, firefighters, and mail delivery?
Are you as outraged by the military-industrial complex in which the private military supply companies have control over sectors of the government, or is your outrage limited to liberal policies? In other words, since you likely don’t have the intellectual fortitude to understand the question – is your ire equally raging toward corporate takeover of government, or is it only government takeover of corporations that gets your kettle steaming?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:31 pmNice projection, Steele.
Just because you’ve capitalized on a hundred years of civil rights progress by selling out your own heritage and the needs of this country, you assume anyone that tries to make their voice heard is just as shallow and opportunistic.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:36 pmAnd who is it we see on teevee EVERYNIGHT?
Media-whore Mike!
Athena is baiting. She’s very good at baiting. In fact, Athena is a
MasterBaiter
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:36 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Mike “The Magic Republican” Steele is a gawd damned A$$h0le.
And a moron.
And a loser, corporate, fascist licking beotch.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:39 pmAnswer the first two questions first. Are you afraid?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:39 pmCorrection: ‘two dozen white members of area young Republic Fascist Party members’
‘It makes for great TV.’ – Just like the Conservative idiots only smarter.
‘You’ll probably make it tonight.’ – Someone told Steele about “teh YouTubes’
‘Enjoy it.’ – Conservatives could give a sh!t about your mother.
That about sums it up. Compassionate Conservatives aren’t.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:40 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
@68…
my answer:
An American Type.
How ’bout you??
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:40 pmI’ll go ahead and answer the question, Athena.
The answer is – the same type YOU prefer – mostly capitalist with a splash of socialism thrown in for good measure. You can hem and haw about how you hate socialism, but you don’t. You just don’t know what it is. Any service available to the public that is paid for by tax payer dollars is a form of socialism. That means that public schools, police departments, firefighters…..these are all socialist programs. Unless you are suggesting doing away with these vital services, then we prefer the exact same type of economic system that you prefer.
Trying to claim otherwise does little but prove how hopelessly stupid you are.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pmLiar.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pmBut what I really, really like,
are tedious and dull-witted attempts
to smear me.
Athena – do you like tedious and dull-witted attempts at smearing you, too?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pmSo why doesn’t Steele say this about the people at the town halls who are against Obama???
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pmI heard some retarded wackjob this morning going on about how if someone was a fat pig and overate enough to come down with Type 2 diabetes, then insurance companies shouldn’t be “forced” to ocver that weak-willed individual.
In other words, this idiot was positing that since the above hypothetical diabetic was a greedy pig, thus deserved to have to pay full price for his/her medications because they were gluttonous enough to overeat themselves into a case of diabetes…
YAY for ‘compassionate conservatism’!
NOT.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 pmAfraid to answer MY questions, Athena?
Are you really such a brainwashed COWARD that you can’t even be bothered to think through your own incredibly flawed ideologies when presented with facts that don’t support it? How does one get so ignorant and unthinking that they simply spout what they are told to say without ever putting one iota of thought behind it?
It must be a sad existence to be that much of a lemming.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:45 pmLeftside Annie says:
I heard some retarded wackjob this morning going on about how if someone was a fat pig and overate enough to come down with Type 2 diabetes, then insurance companies shouldn’t be “forced” to ocver that weak-willed individual.
In other words, this idiot was positing that since the above hypothetical diabetic was a greedy pig, thus deserved to have to pay full price for his/her medications because they were gluttonous enough to overeat themselves into a case of diabetes…
YAY for ‘compassionate conservatism’!
NOT.
I will say that I support increases and decreases in premiums for lifestyle choices (such as smoking or not smoking, for example), but that is not quite the same as saying “you’re on your own, fatty.” That’s just cold. And wrong.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:48 pmOil industry? Aren’t we talking about how callous Mr. Steele was to a woman who spoke up about the legitimate death panelling the insurance companies did to her mother?
Athena concentrate on one topic. I’m sure you can at least attempt to provide some type of an excuse for Mr. Steele’s attack on this woman and her mother.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:49 pmMr. Steele’s comments were callous.
His “dialogue” was a big failure,
and made the R’s look as bad as possible.
Why don’t they have a better leader?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:52 pmAnother Joe spewing Republican party line… white is black, and up is down.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm“Steele Dismisses Woman Whose Mother Died Of Cancer: ‘It Makes For Great TV. You’ll Probably Make It. … Enjoy.’”
{Shaking my head] And this ignorant remark is coming from the RNC Chairman and yet he is trying to “connect” with the young African-Americans? The Republican Party sink lower everydayvand look more clownish. Stay classy, Mike.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:54 pmAthena must be on another site, trying to pick up more talking points.
I must say that the members of this site are uniquely efficient at smacking down trolls like this one. So, bring it on, Athena. Facts will always win out over fear-mongering, paranoia, and straight-up falsehoods. We welcome the opportunity.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pmDidn’t Steele complain of having oreo cookies thrown at him when talking to a black audience when he ran for the senate? I remember Hannity going off about it. Well, Steele should have been showered with them after that insensitive remark.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:57 pmFred @ 2:42pm
I thought the it was the oil industry that took over the U.S. government in that coup in 2000.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 pmGregM
He should have been showered with something, but I was thinking something more golden.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:59 pmtombaker says;
Why don’t they have a better leader?
Who could lead a party made up of the likes of Flush Limpdick, his dittoheads, Michelle Malkin, Trannie Coulter, Quitter Diva Caribou Barbie, Brillo, Beck, etc, etc, etc?
That was a purely rhetorical question.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:59 pmIt’s nice the Troll Central gave Athena another shot at playing time after her first few disastrous outings.
Unfortunately for them, she’s not really justifying their faith in her. She really IS a monumentally ineffective troll.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:05 pmAthena says:
I know the progressive movement would like to rid this country of capitalism and create even more social programs. But, I wouldn’t use the term Communist, Socialist is more fitting.
Here is a NEWS FLASH:
You are 2 centuries too late with this argument. Some of the early settlements in this country were collectives. Also, Social Security is a socialist program and that is over 70 years old. The whole society is a hybrid system with capitalism and socialism, just like some European countries.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:06 pmIt’s a ll very clear now. If you are a screaming, foaming-at-the-mouth moron at one of these rallies, you are part of a grass-roots movement, and share the beliefs of the American people. On the other hand, if you are really wanting to have a rational discussion, and want better health care for all, you are just looking to get on TV. I’m so glad this has been straightened out for me /snark
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:09 pmSometimes there is no other response then “what a tool”.
What a tool…
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:10 pmConsidering that Mickey Steele is dumb as a stump; how stupid must one be to try and defend him or his position?
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:17 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
and the thing, the thing that really gets me is that you will NOT see this clip on the National news or CNN. You’ll see it MSNBC and on the internet.
In the end the general public is not hearing the CC/Republicans ridiculing folks who have lost family members or laughing at working moms who would love an insurance plan they can afford or booing cancer survivors and disabled Americans. You won’t see the huge pro-health care rally in Austin, TX. or the town halls where the attendees are attentive and polite. The town halls where pro-health reform activists are yelling do not make it to TV.
We only get to hear the folks screaming “I want my country baaacccckkkk” and death panels and lots of gray hairs who don’t want socialism, but will cut you if you touch Medicare.
No polls that show a majority of Americans in favor of a choice of a public option are reported on.
Oh, so my rant is a rant about how the media is framing the message that the Republicans are right that health care reform is scary and that the majority of us like the status quo.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:20 pmOkay folks, it’s time for our friend kwsventures’ daily Quote Dump, since he’s got no ideas of his own.
Get yer waders on and open all the windows.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:26 pmDoes kws really think that, as literate progressive types, we haven’t seen all of those quotes before??
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm#78 & 80
Overeating may not be the problem. Considering that the types & quality of food that most lower-income people are forced to consume because of price, diabetes can be an insidious problem.
In other words, people eat what they can afford–and unfortunately that consists of large amounts of carbohydrates, high fructose corn sugar(s), preservatives, processed and re-processed food products. These ‘foods’ are guaranteed to make a person’s metabolism get out of whack pretty quickly.
This doesn’t include the true gluttons–they do exist, but not in the quantity that many “right-wackjobs” harp about.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:31 pmAthena says:
What type of economic system do you prefer as a Progressive?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
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Something between European-style socialism and free-market capitalism sounds about right to me.
Government must protect the public from unscrupulous industries and predatory corporations while encouraging entrepreneurship and growth. Private industry must be the primary driver of the economy, operating in a well-regulated and competitive marketplace. Basic infrastructure should be run via public-private partnerships. And in basic infrastructure I include power, water, sanitation, public transportation, and health care – I believe nobody should be denied access to basic needs due to lack of money.
Doesn’t sound like Communism, does it?
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:32 pmSteele is someone who adores the sound of his own voice. Every time I listen to him speak (on the radio, in public, in speeches, etc.), I am reminded of how useless this person is. When he says “engaging” him in a debate, what he really means is listening to his preposterous rhetoric and not asking questions he does not have the answers for. (which is just about any question you may ask him) He’s just a ridiculous little man, undeserving of all the time spent listening to him. They may be few and rare, but Steele needs to be replaced with a Republican who can at least speak in public without belaboring the points.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:33 pm“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.”
You mean the one the theocrats are pushing for? The ones who think we should all live in log cabins and go to the same church? Those tyrants?
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:35 pmHey Steele or Steely Dan,
Your BUFFOONERY makes for great tv…the flip-flopper that you are……oh that’s right, he doesnt do ‘policy’
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:40 pmI wonder if the stupid troll has read any of the authors he quote-mines. Very few of them are/were conservatives and many were progressive revolutionary. And I have yet to see him quote anyone who would not recognize the sheer madness of the GOP.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:40 pmstncldcrzy68 says:
Your BUFFOONERY makes for great tv…the flip-flopper that you are……oh that’s right, he doesnt do ‘policy’
I have to quibble. “Flip-floppers” contradict a previously stated position. Micky has yet to clearly state any position, to the best of my knowledge.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 pmOr were you were referring to the one mickey is talking about here where folks get to pay people to supposedly cover their illnesses only to take the money and run so they can post record profits?
You know, the same ones who use your money to block legislation that might be more beneficial to you than to them? Those tyrants? I suppose they don’t quite qualify because it is obvious the only good they are focused on is their own.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pmkws: Just where TF were you from 2001-2009(January 20) when we had a REAL tyrant in the White House?
-I am the decider
-It would be easier in a dictatorship, just as long as I’m the dictator
-the Constitution is just a God damned piece of paper
-the Geneva Conventions are “quaint”
-suspension of Habeus Corpus
-warrantless spying
-arrest of dissenters who had nothing more than antiBush tees or bumper stickers
-”free speech zones” for protesters
-signing statements declaring what laws would be followed or ignored
-torture
Guess you are very selective on your definition of a tyrant
So go suck a rotten egg you POS!
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pmI boil easily at this kind of spattering invective and human disregard. But today, I won’t vent my anger. I’ll simply note that I’m glad that his young woman put out there what her mother went through and that I’m sorry for her loss. Michael Steele is truly the spot-on messenger of the GOP, lobbing spitballs at mainstream American out of his and his party’s anger of being deprived of power.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:46 pmWow, this bilge pump must be made of kryptonite.
Steele was against granny dying before he was for Granny dying
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:51 pmAthena says: 99
You dont know any such thing. You are an ignorant brainwashed moron who has been programmed to believe such juvenile and frankly stupid delusional fantasies. You are bone ignorant. If you ever had an original thought you would mistake it for a brain aneurysm
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:55 pmkwsventures says:
We already knew you were too stupid to think for yourself. You are a piece of dogshit. You are a worthless ignorant brainwashed moron. A stupid punkass troll without a shred of decency or a single functional braincell. Stop embarassing yourself and just STFU. Let the adults talk
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:59 pmchiroptera toasterhead says:
Athena says:
What type of economic system do you prefer as a Progressive?
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
____________
Something between European-style socialism and free-market capitalism sounds about right to me.
Government must protect the public from unscrupulous industries and predatory corporations while encouraging entrepreneurship and growth. Private industry must be the primary driver of the economy, operating in a well-regulated and competitive marketplace. Basic infrastructure should be run via public-private partnerships. And in basic infrastructure I include power, water, sanitation, public transportation, and health care – I believe nobody should be denied access to basic needs due to lack of money.
Doesn’t sound like Communism, does it?
Sounds reasonable.
September 2nd, 2009 at 3:59 pmAthena says: What type of economic system do you prefer as a Progressive?
Its all to often assumed today that ‘Free Market’ is somehow Democracy. Its not. When private enterprise has managed to control a good portion of the 524 FOTH thats not free market, when the people who profit off you are telling the government they dont want to lower your premiums and not to give them a public choice.
The problem isnt that the government isnt progressive, its that its become a big business pork fest.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:02 pmGod whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pains: it is His megaphone to rouse a deaf world.
CS Lewis wrote the above quote also. Could apply to our treatment of those with illness and no insurance, couldn’t it? Kind of like the Biblical admonishment that how we treat the least of our fellow human beings is how we treat God.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:05 pmI can’t define Communism. Can you?
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:11 pmHistorically, there are two conditions that can lead to the utter collapse of an economy.
1. When the accumulation of wealth, in the absence of producing a product or commodity, becomes the leading industry.
2. When those with the most to gain by rampant greed are placed in charge of policing themselves.
Our economy is operating under both those conditions and will be in peril until those conditions are changed.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:12 pmPLC @ 114 –
Well spoken. Very well spoken, and thank you for saying so.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:12 pmDo you want speculators and investors between you and your doctor?
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:13 pmThe simplest definition of communism is “communal ownership”.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pmI have said this before. I think it bears repeating. The object is a just society. It is like getting to the top of a hill which is a just society. The more we argue about whether to take a Ford or a Chevy to the top of that hill, the more we deify the vehicle instead of keeping our focus ON the goal the less likely we are to REACH the top of that hill. Neither socialism nor capitalism are perfect. Neither are inherently evil. Both need adjustments from the purists ideals of them to make a society more just. Those who want to deify either one are no longer part of the machinery trying to get to a just society
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:17 pmAthena-
What do you think should be done to help people like this young woman’s mother?
I asked sometime ago, but thought you must have missed it.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pm“We believe that the just standing of all nations is the health and security of all.” –Thomas Jefferson to James Maury, 1812
I love dueling quotes.
Paul the Sax Guy, thanks for the props.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pmthe washington independent has more:
http://washingtonindependent.com/57497/steeles-freedom-tour-stops-at-howard
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pmSomehow, I doubt that this would stop you from throwing the term around…
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:18 pmA definition of communism is easy enough. I dont see why it would be relevant. No one in this administration is trying to nationalize the healthcare industry.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pmHmmm…Steele sounds like another guy who once said of rape, “as long as its inevitable, you may as well lay back and enjoy it”.
That was Clayton Williams (another Republican), when he was running for governor of Texas in 1990.
Just what IS it about Republicans that make them incapable of compassion?
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:20 pmmisscoleopteramolly says:
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Hmmm…Steele sounds like another guy who once said of rape, “as long as its inevitable, you may as well lay back and enjoy it”.
That was Clayton Williams (another Republican), when he was running for governor of Texas in 1990.
Just what IS it about Republicans that make them incapable of compassion?
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Not to mention higher brain function
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:21 pmAthena says:
I can’t define Communism.
Its probably what the British elite thought of us upstart colonialists that didnt want to be private taxed debt serfs.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:25 pmMickey would have fit right into Monty Python’s “Upper class twit of the Year”. Except he has no class.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:26 pmPLC,
I just seem to be all huggy today. Kinda creepy for a 52-year-old straight white guy…
Gotta be all the crap in the air from the Station fire… I’m in LA zoning out on Benadryl.
OK — so what the hell this has to do with the topic at hand, I’ll never know.
I’ll drift back out, now.
Paul
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:26 pmAthena goes away for all that time and when it finally comes back, all it has to say is that it can’t define communism?
Hell, not knowing what the word means doesn’t stop it from using it to describe others. Admitting that you’re a moron who just throws out scary words and talking points is so far beyond stupid, there is no word for it.
Here’s an idea, Athena – start with the f**king dictionary, you idiot. Then, go f**k yourself with it, because you’re clearly not here for conversation and discourse, you’re here to derail the thread.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:39 pmLadies and gentlmen, may I present to you the GOP’s idea on healthcare reform: **drumroll**
1). Don’t change the system! (we need their generous campaign contributions!)
2). Strengthen tort reform (so basically even if you have a legit case of malpractice, doctors won’t be able to be sued).
3). Call anyone who speaks out for healthcare reform at any of our “meetings” a clown or an attention seeker (let’s forget how stupid we look when we “protest”).
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:44 pmCan’t, for the life of me, figure out how people buy into this sh!t….Just thinking out loud; no response needed.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:44 pmSteele CAN’T be human…????
“If you have men that will exclude any of G-d’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity; you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man.”
St. Francis de Assisi
Just adding to the quote-o-matic.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:51 pmJust what IS it about Republicans that make them incapable of compassion?
Many of them are all about self-gratification and cannot see anyone else in their world. Others are Republicans because they are easy prey to politicians who wave the flag and thump the Bible. The rational Republicans are few in number on the national level.
September 2nd, 2009 at 4:52 pmI guess what bothers me about Repubs in general are a couple of things: They interpret the Bible only when politically expedient and they blast any effort for change. WE all know that we have problems; offer some sort of solution to show that you have (some) brain function. I’ll get off my soap box now…Thanks for letting me vent…back to work now…
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:08 pmtwo dozen white members of area young Republicans arrived to sit in the reserved first two rows………….
Dare I make a joke about blacks in the back of the bus ?
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:15 pmAnd this was at Howard University. So you’ve got an auditorium filled with black college students at a traditionally black university, except for the first two rows of reserved seats are filled with self-satisfied white kids.
Remember when the Republicans used to be so good at stage management?
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:18 pmSteele is to Obama as Palin is to Hillary.
“The Shadow cannot create; it can only mar.”
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:45 pmI can’t define Communism.
September 2nd, 2009 at 5:56 pm—-_
Have you considered asking your imaginery friend….
Dog-in-a-manger Turd Daddy Steele strikes with foot in mouth again. In addition to being stupid, immoral and unethical, the man has no decency; he’s out there giving pigs a bad name.
September 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 pmWow! Does Mr, Steele ever make sense? I have seen quite a few of his interviews and television appearances and I don’t think I have ever seen a coherent thought escape his lips – even on accident.
September 2nd, 2009 at 9:59 pmThe debate…what debate? All I heard was a 5+ minute rambling anecdote with no point. There were no solutions, no facts, and he certainly wasn’t listening to anyone.
He is constantly twisting himself in knots because he knows the progressive opinion is correct, but has to agree with the premise that everyone should have healthcare but have no ideas how to make that possible.
September 2nd, 2009 at 10:10 pmThe Republican party is dead – we are just hearing the death rattle. It is sad to me in some ways because my dad and my maternal grandmother were staunch Republicans…but they were intelligent and reasonable…and they too would turn away from such disgrace.
I see a true people’s progressive party emerging out of all this, as we watch our once beloved Democratic party glide to the right. Eventually good will come from this – change is in the air.
September 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 pmI doubt seriously that steeley damn would had talked that way to a white person.
Way to go steeley damn, I see African-Americans flocking to your side.
Who hired this fool to speak at Howard University?
September 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 amHe could be just like Stephen Colbert and not see color.
Regarding his child, the BU graduate. This is the surprising part. I have to assume they have been assisting financially with the tuition, somewhere north of $30-35K per year. Is this adult so completely cocooned from the outside world they are unaware of needing to get a job, benefits etc upon graduation?
Game of life – I wouldn’t call the person a fool. I would call him/her brilliant.
September 3rd, 2009 at 6:55 amPoliticians are soulless creatures. electronic cigarettes
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:50 amvery thanks for article!
September 4th, 2009 at 11:12 am