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McCain Endorses Claim That Obama Finds Seniors ‘Expendable’: ‘I’ve Never Heard It More Eloquently Put’

EDITOR’S NOTE: Over the past month, ThinkProgress has traveled to town hall events across the country to report what we’re seeing on the ground. This is our fifth eyewitness report.

This past Tuesday, Sens. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and John McCain (R-AZ) took their nationwide health care road show to Florida, where they teamed up with Sen. Mel Martinez (R-FL) to participate in a closed-door town hall event at the Palmetto General Hospital in Hialeah. ThinkProgress attended the forum.

During the question-and-answer session, Jim Dolan, president of the Florida Medical Association, expressed his anger with the American Medical Association for supporting President Obama’s health care plan. We “repudiate that action on their part,” Dolan said, speaking for his Florida chapter.

Dolan went on to propagate a version of the false “death panels” myth, claiming that the Obama administration is promoting “dranconian rationing that Rahm Emanuel’s brother, Ezekiel, talks about as though it’s going down to pick up a loaf of bread.” Dolan wondered when are people going to realize that “the people advising this president” feel that the seniors “are expendable.”

Rather than distance himself from Dolan’s false assertion, McCain wholeheartedly embraced it:

McCAIN: Doctor, I know you have a day job, but I’d like to take you with me wherever I go. [Laughter] I’ve never heard it more eloquently put than you just stated the situation.

Watch it:

When his former running mate Sarah Palin first offered the false “death panel” claim last month, McCain defended her. He said that end-of-life counseling “at least opens the door to a possibility of rationing.”



79 Responses to “McCain Endorses Claim That Obama Finds Seniors ‘Expendable’: ‘I’ve Never Heard It More Eloquently Put’”

  1. evangenital says:

    Not all of the seniors are as ill-informed and biased as McCain and the repiggies would prefer.

    Many seniors across this nation are quite upset that their children and their grandchildren are having a difficult time accessing health care because of the onerous expense of health insurance, as well as all the “pre-existing condition” crap and the like.

    Many seniors are fully aware that Medicare is a government program.


  2. Ape-Man says:

    When these republicanz wake up, if they wake up, they are going to be very sore, poor bastards. Until then, they deserve to be exposed as a fake party.
    .


  3. Virtual Pebble says:

    Wonderful. Another doctor that can’t be bothered to read the legislation or talk to sane people or both. Ah, well, just another congregant at Our Lady of The Presumptuous Assumption, Northern Fish Camp Parish.

    McCain has no excuse though. Lying sack of McGrumpy.


  4. FOIA Gras says:

    How much evidence do President Obama and Democrats in Congress need before they are conviced that Republicans are not good faith partners? The Dems and WH need to catch up with the Progressive Caucus around the idea that a strong bill (i.e. true reform) should be the priority over strong support (i.e. “bipartisanship”). The Dems must stand behind a public option as a line that shall not be crossed.


  5. FOIA Gras says:

    Stay tuned and see how many Florida doctors resign their AMA membership in protest of Dolan’s health insurance reform smears.


  6. Rich H says:

    I fear Obama’s speach next week will be another extension of an olive branch – to those who would just assume put a knife in his back.

    I sincerely wish he would call them all out by name, what they’ve said publicly, for all to hear.

    Then tell them the Dem.’s will pass the bill with a public option for the good of the nation. I don’t know why that would be so hard, I’d do it, but then I’m not in politics.


  7. Badmoodman says:

    McCain Endorses Claim That Obama Finds Seniors ‘Expendable’: ‘I’ve Never Heard It More Eloquently Put’

    – - I can think of ONE senior that Obama thinks is very expendable.


  8. Pilotshark says:

    FOIA Gras says:
    Stay tuned and see how many Florida doctors resign their AMA membership in protest of Dolan’s health insurance reform smears.

    Well hopefully not many doctors will do that cause i hope that most of the Doctors are smarter then that. Well at lease are able to comprehend stuff.


  9. Chuck Feney says:

    Let’s set up a death panel in the Senate cloakroom; methinks there are some ’senior’ senators that are consuming valuable oxygen that would be better inhaled by others.

    (warning: this post contains 100% unadulterated snark.)


  10. Shayne says:

    Really presidential Senator McCain. The people decided they didn’t want more fear and smear tactics that we had from Bush and Cheney. FYI, that’s only one of the reasons you and Palin LOST.


  11. tombaker says:

    The Draconian Rationing practiced by Wellpoint is just, well, so much more….

    draconianer,

    that we’d all be not-free if it changed.

    If it wasn’t good Health Care,

    then Angela Braly wouldn’t make 10 million a year,

    right?


  12. okie dokie says:

    No, Obama believes outrageous corporate profit margins are expendable. That’s the only reason these two millionares are having this superficial conversation in front of a camera.


  13. ralph the wonder llama says:

    It’s a pretty clear sign that the Right really has nothing when they have to lean so heavily on such easily disproved absurdities like the “death panels”.

    They do know that this crap will work on their easily-scared base, though. I guess that’s why they stick with it…


  14. tombaker says:

    “Get up John, it’s 5 am!”

    “whuh..hmmmph…what?”

    “Time to scare the dummies!!”


  15. rastaman says:

    oh damn…..he found us out.

    i was just about to go out dump grandma on the “bring out your dead” wagon. (she’s not quite dead yet)

    guess i’ll wait til next week.


  16. FOIA Gras says:

    Pilotshark @ #8

    Why the concern over whether doctors resign their AMA membership? I’m not suggesting that doctors stop practicing medicine in protest. Only about 25% of doctors nationwide are AMA members and many resigned in protest to the national organizations statement earlier this year in opposition of reform. It would be heartening to see similar pushback from members in Florida.


  17. Tired Of Fighting says:

    And to think that some of you who I consider informed had the nerve to give this man credit last week for some sh!t that I know he forgot he said today.

    I will say this again, John McCain is not an honorable man, he had the chance to but decided to go with the political winds, he always has and always will be a political hack, using his former POW status to make people believe that he is something that he is not.

    This is the man that vetoed the MLK holiday, and brought us Sarah Palin and Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher. Enuff said.

    RIP
    SGT Stephen R. Sherman
    C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
    KIA 3 Feb 2005
    Mosul, Iraq


  18. Gregor Samsa says:

    John McCain, now that’s a senior who is perfectly expendable…


  19. Rich H says:

    ToF,

    I don’t know who’d say anything nice about McCain. I sure can’t.


  20. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    someone ought to remind grampy mccrappy pants that it was his party that tried to and still continues to try to squash medicare.


  21. ken melvin says:

    Drs. and hospitals get most of their income from keeping old people alive a little longer.


  22. evangenital says:

    McCain is a very wealthy man, but leeches the government system for health care.

    What a sack of sh**!


  23. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    “McCain is a very wealthy man, but leeches the government system for health care.”

    and he’s also been on disability for the past forty years from his stint in the military. no wonder grampy mccrappypants got along so well with “joe not a plumber”…they’re both welfare queens.


  24. Tired Of Fighting says:

    Rich H says:

    ToF,

    I don’t know who’d say anything nice about McCain. I sure can’t.

    I wish that were true but there are some here who still believe that John McCain is a different kind of Republican, I am not speaking about a majority of TP’rs, but usually when there is a McCain “gaffe” when he actually say’s something correct or stands up, people start congratulating him as if he meant it and want to give him a pass.

    Eff John McCain.

    RIP
    SGT Stephen R. Sherman
    C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
    KIA 3 Feb 2005
    Mosul, Iraq


  25. Xisithrus says:

    Ironic that McCains duty was to drop bombs on expendables.


  26. Xisithrus says:

    The only person that wants to see Grannies plugged pulled is Limbaugh….if he didnt let air out she wouldnt fit under the bed.


  27. pete says:

    I think what you see, Tired of Fighting, is the difficulty equating the “Maverick” (which was always a misnomer) of 2000 and the confused, erratic, Flippy McSpin of ‘08.

    I had no illusions about the man but he, at least, seemed rational and competent. It might be age. It might be the cumulative effect of piecing out his soul. It might have been a complete abdication to the worst the GOP has to offer.

    Whatever the reason, he went from being sneaky about talking like a moderate while voting the party line to complete incoherence. And it’s kind of sad to see even from someone who no longer shares my concerns.


  28. SP Biloxi says:

    “McCain Endorses Claim That Obama Finds Seniors ‘Expendable’: ‘I’ve Never Heard It More Eloquently Put’”

    I’m glad that Grandpappy McSame did not become POTUS last year. He is clearly showing that he puts the GOP Party first before the American people.


  29. cec says:

    The reason that these people can spread false information is that the public is uninformed and lazy.The internet is supposed to be a place where,with some effort,a person can check and separate fact from fiction.It’s not done by a large portion of the population.It’s easier to watch Fox news to be “informed”.


  30. evangenital says:

    Incredibly, I used to like McCain in the 90’s. I thought he was genuine.

    Christ, was I ever wrong.

    That asshat’s biggest “achievement” is inflicting that Palin woman on our nation,
    even though she is not in any position of power.

    Again, why does a multi-millionaire like McCain use free government medical care for himself and his wife?


  31. NinerFan says:

    No weasel has ever worked harder and longer crafting an heroic image for the press and public designed to obscure the fact that he’s a weasel through and through.


  32. Xisithrus says:

    http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/09/03/healthcare-supporter-bites-off-opponents-pinky/

    Get this, anti-reform guy jumps out briskly, pro-reform guy bites half anti-reform pinky off…anti-reform guy then has pinky taken care of with medicare.


  33. Incars says:

    Wrong again McCrappy. To think a substantial number of numbskulls voted for this geezer and the quitter is enough to cause health problems.


  34. pete says:

    According to another story, Xisithrus, the guy who lost the finger has refused to say which side he supports or even that he was there for the protest. Nor has the identity of the biter been established.


  35. katy says:

    “… in Hialeah. ThinkProgress attended the forum.”

    haha! good for youz!

    good job! … AS usual!


  36. pakaal says:

    Yeah, you know what? Here’s something, I can think of one lying, loud-mouthed senior I consider expendable, he goes by the name of McCain.


  37. wiley says:

    In the presidential campaign, my opinion of McCain was NO! Now I’m really beginning to dislike him.


  38. Chuck Feney says:

    Why does Dr. Dolan take Ezekiel Emmanuel’s name in vain? From the link above in the post, EE says in the WP interview:

    Are the bills under consideration dealing with these problems?

    Fifteen years ago, I thought that cost growth meant we would have to confront the rationing question. But the more I studied it, the less I think rationing of health care is the key question. The bigger question seems to be improving the quality and efficiency of the system. We have a lot of unnecessary care. The big issue here is how to redesign the health-care delivery system so we’re doing the appropriate data-driven care that we know will improve someone’s life and not doing unnecessary, and potentially harmful, care.

    So it’s not rationing if you don’t need it?

    I think we have so much unnecessary care that’s not improving quality of life or length of life, that our first order of business is to get rid of that. That, we can all agree on. We need to change incentives, change how doctors behave and make decisions, so they’re more focused on what the data shows.

    Am I missing something?


  39. okie dokie says:

    Isn’t “maverick” just a nice word for “two faced”?


  40. Xisithrus says:

    I heard he bit his pinky and scratched a backward B on his face…

    Neeners =)


  41. Ape-Man says:

    KO just pointed out that wherever they go, the Republicanz radical actions are killing humanity. take that Re-gipizan neanderthal that shouted down a lady in a wheel chair at a town hall meeting…

    [i praphrase].


  42. southrnbelle says:

    JOHN McCAIN – A man who has enjoyed the luxury of Government controlled healthcare for his entire life!!!

    HE IS BENEATH CONTEMPT!!!!


  43. hormiga brava chavez says:

    Ape-Man @41 – I bet these evil hecklers who yelled at that poor woman will be in church on Sunday morning! All for deh lawd! It’s too disgusting 4 words! Their cruelty has no limits – UNREAL!


  44. hormiga brava chavez says:

    I despise McCain’s hypocrisy. He says whatever is convenient and is never sincere! Please let him get the boot in 2010 – PLEASE!


  45. mk3872 says:

    I’m sure McCain also thinks Obama speaking to school children is AWFUL and will indoctrinate them into communism, socialism and blackness.


  46. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Dolan wondered when are people going to realize that “the people advising this president” feel that the seniors “are expendable.”

    McCAIN: I’ve never heard it more eloquently put than you just stated the situation.

    That’s true. When was the last time we saw trolling that eloquent here at TP?


  47. Winski says:

    John McCain is a LIAR…he should just retire, go home to the desert and follow his own advice…..pass along..SEE YA!!


  48. stormy says:

    Waaaay o/t. If you didn’t see KO’s closing segment on tonights Countdown, by all means, do what ever you can to find it. Truly awesome.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.


  49. Shayne says:

    I don’t remember who had the segment on MSNBC today but it was about how Senators don’t travel back to their home states and use their private insurance paid for by the taxpayer. They go to Bethesda and get that government provided health care instead. Here’s a link to the story. http://cafewitteveen.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/whats-excellent-health-care-for-repub-senators-is-too-good-for-the-rest-of-us/


  50. Shayne says:

    Here’s a link to the same story on Huffpo.


  51. GreatGranny2B says:

    @#30 – evangenital says: Again, why does a multi-millionaire like McCain use free government medical care for himself and his wife?

    Those that have a whole lot often have it because they know how to use (and abuse) the system, so they end up having more and more. Along with all of the medical benefits McCain is eligible for, he also draws a tidy military retirement which is probably 100% disability – if I remember correctly what I had read. If his retirement is the full 100% disability, he pays ZERO tax on it.

    @#34 – Although the *bitten one* won’t tell which side he is on, it was revealed that he is on Medicare or Medicaid – couldn’t completely hear which was reported on TV.

    @#48 – YES! KO was superb – he deserves an Oscar. After all, Tina got one for doing Palin.


  52. dasm says:

    McCain is a lying blowhard who commited adultery & then called his new wife a c**t & a trollop. Why do we have to listen to this sexist, lying pig?


  53. RUCerious says:

    Just a note, Senator McTurd:

    I consider You very expendable.


  54. Virtual Pebble says:

    19. Rich H says: ToF, I don’t know who’d say anything nice about McCain. I sure can’t. September 3rd, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    Heck, Rich, I’ll give it a shot. He emulates a weather vane very nicely.

    If we could have him plasticized, he’d make a pretty good garden gnome or troll, and perhaps an even better scarecrow or pigeon latrine.

    There. Is that nice enough, or what? I mean, what could be better than suggested positive uses for an old crank? Eh?


  55. OutstandingInMyField says:

    Is it senility? I can remember sorta liking McCain and some of his positions. During the campaign and afterwards, he seems determined to mirror the worst of his party. Ok, so you’ll never be prez, don’t you want to be remembered as a statesman? Right now you appear unfit to scrape barnacles from Senator Kennedy’s boat.


  56. DallasNE says:

    John McCain is just proving how unworthy he was as presidential material last fall with his absolutely unbelievable comments of late. Compare and contrast his viscous comments regarding that man that beat him in the election and how dignified both Gore and Kerry were. The difference is stark even though Gore had a lot he could have said about both how he was robbed and what a terrible President Bush really was. Obviously he would have been attack for sour grapes yet nobody goes after McCain for his sour grapes. Obviously, MSM is still solidly in bed with the GOP.


  57. Mike Hunt says:

    Just think. Had this miserable waste of flesh not chosen Caribou Barbie as his running mate he might be president now. I feel like hurling each time I have that thought.


  58. Anonymouse says:

    This from a man who jettisoned his first wife after he discovered she had been crippled in an accident.


  59. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    O.K.
    Reality says that there was a reason McCrazy lost…
    … Because it ain’t ALL Sarah’s fault, you know!

    .


  60. AaronQ of Maine says:

    McCain was a great hero. But he sold his soul.

    They say Obama is so bad but he never started any wars. Never burned the constitution. Never beat his wife or kids. Never cheated. Never shot someone. Never drunk crashed his car. Never Burned his records. never lied to the citizens. never worshiped another man. Never let people drown helplessly. never pushed his troops under the bus. I’d like to see anyone else in a high office say that, but they can’t. 3 more years of obama, should kill most of the GOP from heart attacks alone. I can see Rush not lasting too much longer and beck is about to pop next sunday. Oh well, too bad there are no more babies being born anymore, guess no one in this country cares about anything at all.


  61. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Ladies and Gentlemen,
    Senator McCrazy meets Dr. Stupid and likes whet he hears.

    .


  62. backup says:

    The death panel talk is Republican demagoguery.

    The idea of rationing seems inevitable, however; regardless of how healthcare is funded.

    The reality is that we only have so much money. Whether we are talking about the government or health insurers or individuals.

    The reality is that healthcare has seen dramatic innovation and advance. That’s good. But, it’s become very expensive.

    With more and more people living longer and requiring more healthcare, some type of rationing is inevitable. Whether its insurers or individuals running out of money, or the government setting priorities for services.


  63. spearNmagicHelmet says:

    quick story, mccain was a really, really bad pilot. it’s pretty much his entire professional career in a nutshell. augering in.

    the end.

    thank you!


  64. backup says:

    Another way to look at it is like this:

    Progressives want people to have the option to keep the plans they currently have. Those people wouldn’t be rationed by the government.

    In that circumstance, if future rationing did occur, it would be rationing of healthcare services to people that wouldn’t have any service under Republican plans.

    Ask McCain: If you did not have the means, would you rather have a chance at healthcare upon approval of a government board; or no healthcare at all?


  65. MapleStreet says:

    I am deeply disappointed in McCain and his meteoric fall to the sewer.

    *) a couple of elections ago, he was submarined by the republican rumor mill including misleading phone calls. 2008 he hired the same firm to make phone calls for him.

    *) in the 2008 election there were some points where he seemed properly horrified at the innuendo machine against Obama. Now in this story he has adopted the same tactics.

    *) And let us not forget the farce of his school and flight records.


  66. LeslieBurton says:

    Can you imagine where we would be if McCain/Palin had won the election? My brother, a long time resident of Australia, was in the US recently for a month. Always has been very interested and knowledgable in politics. He watched FoxNews while in the states calling it “research”. He was shocked as to how vile it was.


  67. Tawdry says:

    And just where did McCain go to have the melanoma removed from his face? Oh No!! It was Bethesda Naval Hospital, that rotten old government run place!!


  68. eyesopen says:

    This afternoon, I posted this e-mail to John McCain’s inbox:

    Senator McCain:
    I have been, and remain dismayed by your embrace and repetition of demonstrable falsehoods in the debate over health care. Normally, a little good spirited redirection of truth is to be expected from a politician, but of late, I am concerned that you are giving in, in a pre-election season, to the elements of your party that have no contribution to the public dialog that is not seditious nonsense.

    Yes, yes, I know all that blather about what a war hero you are and how you should be accorded approbation on any undertaking as a result, but you know, it occurs to me that Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.

    I think you had better turn your attention to your country and away from your party before neither remains. The forces that you are toying with are those that you cannot possibly control.


  69. Parlezvous says:

    Keep in mind that McCain has a lot of experience with expendable. After all, six Navy fighter aircraft and his first wife were “expendable”.


  70. JNagarya says:

    Correction:

    The video clip of him on a far-right lunatic fringe TV show — available on “Huffington Post” — makes clear his position.

    He also supports the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq.
    And before he punched the guy — twice — who bit off his finger, he chased a woman who was smaller than him.

    He is the typical right wing loon who mistakes being a misinformed loud-mouthed bully for being a patriot.


  71. StrollingAlong says:

    RE: “… John McCain is not an honorable man, he had the chance to but decided to go with the political winds, he always has and always will be a political hack, using his former POW status to make people believe that he is something that he is not”.

    This is all you need to know about John McCain: he is just a grumpy old man who can’t get over the fact that a Black guy is in the WH so he is doing everything can to obstruct. McCain will do everything he can to try to underming this President, no matter what his actions do to the country. He is just angry because he thinks that he deserves the Presidency because he is John McCain.

    McCain (and many other republicans) is blocking some of the President’s appointments: Bob Abbey, the nominee to be the Bureau of Land Management administrator, and Wilma Lewis, the nominee for Interior’s assistant secretary for land and minerals.

    Why? Other that the fact that he is a too old, he wants the President to “weigh in” on one of HIS (Old Grampy) legislative priorities. Weigh in?

    And it is very sad that the so-called media gasbas tv hosts bring McCain on several times a month and allow him free reign to say whatever he wants without any legimate questions or followup.


  72. StrollingAlong says:

    RE: “The reason that these people can spread false information is that the public is uninformed and lazy”.

    Yes, it is true that so many are too lazy to learn or just may be lacking reading and comprehendion skills. For some, it hurts the brain to read and try to understand.

    But, a big problem is with what passes for main-stream media in this country.

    Why is McCain (and republicans in general) all over the TV? Why is McCain given a platform by all of the so-called journalist and gasbags shows in existence?

    How many time has you seen the H.A.C.K.S CBC, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC and FOX actually ask a hard probing question of their republican masters, including McCain? It would not surprise me one bit if the republicans gave the gasbags host the list of question they are permitted to ask. And surely you are aware of that the networks edit interview and news tape to cast the President and the Democrats in a bad light.

    So don’t ask why McCain is given free reign on the TV airwaves to spread false information. I think that that is obvious: McCain, the republicans and their synocopants in what passes for main stream media in this country are trying to undermine the Presidency of President Obama.

    How many times has McCain appeared with Bob Schieffer on 09? I think the count is up to twelve.

    Why?


  73. StrollingAlong says:

    RE: “McCain was a great hero. But he sold his soul”.

    Someone, please, explain to me how John McCain is a great hero? Hero how? Hero what? He was a bad pilot who destroyed several planes and was involved in the 1967 fire and explosions that killed 134 sailors on the USS Forrestal during the Vietnam War three months before he was shot down over North Vietnam. McCain’s account of the Forrestal accident differ, dramatically, from parts of the official Navy report and accounts of reliable eyewitnesses.

    It seem that many of you clearly are not aware that grampy McCain WAS NOT the only American POW held captive in Vietnam. Continuing to parrott the “HE was a pow hero” meme does not make it so.

    Officially, 661 recognized prisoners were returned; some 100 of those have since died. All endured sickness, starvation, and torture. SOME OF THEM WERE EVEN BLACK, though you would never know that. Most of them went on to live full productive lives.

    These returning 661 POWs were/are just as much of a hero as grampy. One thing that sets them apart from grampy is that they did not spend their lives as Noun Verb POW. Nor did they have an admiral father who made sure that the records dealing with POWs were sealed.

    Why doesn’t what passes for the media ever talk about these other men?

    Also, please, explain to me why none of the 661 returned POWs still alive were involved in grampy’s presidential campaign. You know, telling us what a great hero and all he was?


  74. kwsventures says:

    evangenital says:

    McCain is a very wealthy man, but leeches the government system for health care.

    What a sack of sh**!

    You think McCain is a liberal?

    “A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul.”


  75. Virtual Pebble says:

    75. kwsventures says: evangenital says: McCain is a very wealthy man, but leeches the government system for health care. What a sack of sh**!

    You think McCain is a liberal? “A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul.” September 4th, 2009 at 6:39 pm

    Vent, WTF you mean by that, dood? McCain doesn’t support a government health care program, he just sucks up the benefits he can and denies that benefit to others who don’t fit in the right citizen class.

    evangenital, technically that’s not really much of an issue. We all know he’s a turd of the first order, but as for being a leech (also true), it’s no biggy. As far as insurance coverage for McGrumpy goes, any individual out of the pool just represents a marginal cost. That’s the beauty of any public health plan; it’s a very large pool, hence the marginal cost is very low.

    If the plan McGrumpy is enrolled in was restricted to Members of the House and Senate only, the marginal cost of adding one more enrollee would be enormous. Even if it included congressional staff, it wouldn’t be economically viable unless the premiums were completely out of reach to anyone but the wealthiest, but spread across a fraction of all government employees? It gets significantly cheaper to enroll an additional person.


  76. bellarose says:

    McCain is still so enraged that he lost to Obama that he can’t see straight. He will do and say anything to bring him down. For one his age to suggest that we need to fear end of life counseling is ludicrous and he knows it. Don’t think he will ever get over getting romped over for his last chance at the Presidency. It’s written all over his face.


  77. kwsventures says:

    Last night, at a restaurant, I looked around and noticed at least 75% of the people in this crowded place were in poor physical condition. Too fat. Big belly. Fat legs. Blubber arms. 3 chins. Smoking cigs outside. Drinking booze. Eating big sugary desserts. My first thought was, everyone needs to pay for their own health care insurance. Why should I pay for their health care? They don’t seem to care at all about their health. Why should they pay for my health care? We need incentives for those that live a healthy lifestyle. Those that don’t care about what they eat and are in lousy physical condition due to their lifestyle need to pay more for health insurance. No different than a poor car driver pays more for car insurance. Same theory.


  78. karadagli61 says:

    you for your sharing.!


  79. policyhack says:

    It’s really disappointing when formerly reasonable and moderate voices like John McCain traffic in these disgraceful distortions. The GOP has no intention of understanding or debating real health insurance reform. Sadly, they intend to promote confusion, misinformation and fear.

    http://axisofreason.com/2009/09/07/gop-grand-obstructionist-party/



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