Beck Includes Senate-Confirmed Staffer (Twice) In His Photo Of ‘Czars’ ‘Not Confirmed By Congress’
Beck Includes Senate-Confirmed Staffer (Twice) In His Photo Of ‘Czars’ ‘Not Confirmed By Congress’
On his Fox News show today, Glenn Beck featured one of his patented spooky-music video packages, this time fearmongering about the Obama administration’s “czars.” “He has 37 czars to oversee and advise him directly,” said Beck. “Never before have there been so many executive posts that were not confirmed by Congress and who answered only to the president.” Watch it:
As is common with conservatives making the “czar” attack, Beck simply has his facts wrong. Many of the positions he refers to as czars are actually long-standing positions. Additionally, in Beck’s photo gallery of czars, he includes Elizabeth Warren, who in her position as chair of a Congressional oversight panel, works for Congress — not the White House. Beck also includes Cass Sunstein, who “cruised” through his confirmation hearing for his nomination to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, but his final confirmation is being held up by Senate Republicans.
Additionally, in his photo gallery of “czars,” Beck included two pictures of director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy John Holdren, who was also confirmed by the Senate. Look:
Last month, Beck referred to OMB Director Peter Orszag, who is Senate-confirmed, as a “czar.” He later acknowledged his mistake after he was called out on it.
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Glenn Beck is insane.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:01 pmObama picks an out spoken Christian/brilliant scientist to head the NIH and Becky still isn’t happy?
There’s just no pleasing some people.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:05 pm.
When Glen Beck tells something truthful…
… THEN that will be newsworthy.
.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:06 pmBeck is a certifiable nut case.
It surprises me that the people in white coats haven’t showed up at the studio in NYC to put him in a straight jacket and truck him away – for good. It seems the problem for the mental health system in NYC is that they don’t have the staff (budget cuts you know from falling tax revenue from tax cuts that cut revenue even further so job cuts will continue forever until we hit ZERO staff) to pick up the whole of cluster-fox news at that location…Seems that it’s all or nothing…
September 4th, 2009 at 7:07 pmBeck is an idiot who consistently shows he does not know what in hell he’s talking about. He’s not a journalist and has never held any kind of public office. Yet this fool is believed by the lunatic fringe as if he’s an expert. I wish he’d get fired – like Imus.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:09 pmPoor poor Becky. WTF is his problem? Has he no grasp of how large the Federal Government is and what kind of administrative and managerial task it is to keep it running badly? If he thinks it should be run better, it would probably take more “czars”, rather than less, and aside from cabinet posts and some critical agencies, why entangle the Senate in confirming each and every one?
Oh. Sorry. I forgot. Beck wants matters and issues more difficult and screwed up, not less, therefore they must all be confirmed by the Senate. Hell, let’s drag the House into the advice and consent deal too. That’ll really screw the pooch.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:10 pmOT but I loved it when Keith Olbermann ripped Beck to shreds last night!
September 4th, 2009 at 7:10 pmIt’s unfortunate we have to care about Beck, who is a lying, delusional, mentally unstable idiot. But we do, because all his admirers, who are also delusional, ill-informed, & idiots (he said so himself) actually believe his crap, his lies, his dishonesty, & his LIES. He is a hateful, anti-American dolt. Sorry, Beck, you jerk, you are not even a good entertainer. You are a stupid, whining, sissy-boy. Your crazy listeners may like you, but the rest of us (98%)know that you are a shrieking, lying nutjob.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:10 pmLast month, Beck referred to OMB Director Peter Orszag, who is Senate-confirmed, as a “czar.” He later acknowledged his mistake after he was called out on it.
Glenn Quack, you have a galaxy of misinformation, harrassment, flame-stoking, pomposity, and unfinished psyc evaluations to acknowledge. You are the bizarre sociological experiment of radio and television.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:19 pmThis is hilarious:
Olbermann goofs on Beck’s craziness.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:20 pmGlenn Beck: “I see Commie people!”
September 4th, 2009 at 7:21 pmThat KO segment was FUNNY!
September 4th, 2009 at 7:22 pmhttp://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_czars_in_the_bush_administration
Many people want to downplay the number of Czars that Bush appointed, due to the controversy being created over President Obama’s use of Czars. Actually, Bush used many Czars! Here is a partial list of the czars that he appointed during his administration:
Cyber Security Czar
Regulatory Czar
AIDS Czar
Bird Flu Czar
Intelligence Czar
Health IT Czar
Katrina Czar
Manufacturing Czar
Drug Czar
Domestic Policy Czar
War Czar
Copyright Czar
Abstinence Czar
Mine Safety Czar
Latin American Czar
WTO Czar
Corruption Czar
Privacy Czar
Sudan Czar
and Health Czar, to name more than a few.
p.s.
Bush II had 36 Czars…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars
But that’s all I found on a quick Google. Funny, I entered “List Bush Czars” and the first hit is about the Obama czars. Funny, YES? And from none other than investigatingobama.blogspot.com. Who said Google solved that pesky “Google bomb” issue, anyways?
September 4th, 2009 at 7:23 pmThe people who actually watch this wacko are being dumbed down by the second.
He is insane, and what is Fox gonna do when one of the ignorant morons who watch him does something violent?
He should be pulled off the air and Fox FCC license should be pulled for airing this seditious tripe.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:30 pmHi Max. The functionally impaired brush off any mention that a certain precedent started under Bush, because they’re intent on making it hard to remember he left office just 7 1/2 months ago.
I’ll tell ya, their version of good governance is not done while in office, it’s to beat up on the succeeding administraion so bad–visceral attacks by the nanosecond–an illusion is promoted that the bad days should be longed for and romanticised as the good ‘ole days. Look what they did to Carter.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:32 pmGlenn Beck is like many other conservatives who don’t let the facts get in the way of what he is saying.
Simply put, Obama can never do anything right in these people’s eyes. If he chooses red shoes instead of white shoes, they would criticize him for that. Thankfully these people don’t have a view into their private residence. Otherwise, they would start criticizing how he raises him family and such. Heck, thinking about it, how long do you think it will be before one group of conservatives or another start clamoring for more openness in Obama’s private residence/family.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:41 pmWhen has the truth ever stopped anyone from Fox News from spreading misinformation?
September 4th, 2009 at 7:44 pmGlenn Beck is on the record explaining his role in the world of cable news. Because, in his words, he along with Hannity and O’Reilly are neither investigative reporters nor journalists (”I’m a commentator”), he implies that they are therefore not beholden to guidelines of journalistic integrity and ethics and are free to make crap up. They couldn’t care less whether what they espouse is factually accurate. All that matters is whether or not they can SELL it to their viewers and listeners.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:46 pmIf these 3 propaganda peddlers were required be truthful in their “commentaries”, they would be speechless.
What was it they were saying about the DOJ since 2000 Oh, yes, they serve at the leisure of the executive [president]
September 4th, 2009 at 7:47 pmDoesn’t Glenn like Bill Bennett? You know… the former republican “drug czar?”
Oh, that’s right – silly me expecting some consistency.
Yeesh!
September 4th, 2009 at 7:48 pmBeck, nor Limbaugh, Hannity, Rove made a difference in OhSix or OhEight.
Keep bilging sumpumps
September 4th, 2009 at 7:49 pmI’m amazed that Becky found a way to distract himself from his terror over the President addressing school-children.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:50 pmMcWars,
Funny thing about that 7 1/2…
… That’s about as long as the Bush Administration kept the Nation safe for.
Man, that first half year really sucked!
September 4th, 2009 at 7:50 pmI guess they think it makes it sound vaguely “communist” to use a Russian word like “czar” and fling it like an accusation at our President.
Silly me for thinking that Czar Nicholas was a monarchist and was overthrown and murdered by the Bolsheviks in 1917–
Ah, who lets history get in the way of a good freakout, anyway?
September 4th, 2009 at 7:52 pmNo wonder Beck’s groupies are so psyco.
The sinister music reminds me of the cold war era newsreels
that used to show in theaters before the feature film.
” The godless commies are plotting our demise,
even more than they were last week.”
Pass the popcorn, please.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:55 pmTop right.
And third row, second from right.
Also look like the same guy.
September 4th, 2009 at 7:56 pmSpeaking of Becky freaking out; did everyone catch his incoherent blathering about the “communist images” in NYC?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szlLM5lCNJg
September 4th, 2009 at 7:57 pmBecky screaming at women on phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7-BvVDV10
Boring.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:06 pmpete, see #10. :)
September 4th, 2009 at 8:08 pmThis is our (Left’s) fault.
We must take our own medicine and decrease demand for this crapola rather than worrying (too much) about supply…
Maybe build on the recent success w/ cutting his advertising revenues — among other things. Beck and Fox won’t fall easily (unfortunately)…
September 4th, 2009 at 8:08 pmGlenn Bleck (not a typo) is an idiot. KO said tonight he’s going to go after Bleck again tongiht! Can’t wait. Last night had me in stitches!
September 4th, 2009 at 8:08 pmHere’s KO’s smackdown of Bleck last night on his show:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32682775#32682775
HIGH-sterical! Best segment ever!
September 4th, 2009 at 8:10 pmIm not sure the problem is supply and demand when it comes to health insurance. Its not a hamburger, a t-shirt or a car your buying.
Interesting…
September 4th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
September 4th, 2009 at 8:14 pmBeck acknowledged a mistake? That is newsworthy!
Heh! I hadn’t realized that KO did the deconstruction.
BTW, aren’t we over 40 advertisers who now refuse to run spots during Becky’s show? I don’t care what kind of contract he has, the network won’t put up with having nothing but public service announcements and pimping their own shows for big blocks of time.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:15 pmWhen it comes to Beck…Pfftt, the oxygen supply to his demanding brain is limited
September 4th, 2009 at 8:16 pm36,37, Whos’s counting anymore. That looks like a production problem and not an editorial problem. You guys are making a big deal out of a production mistake.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:16 pmUnfortunately, the only way to hit FAUX where they really live is to boycott cable altogether and take the rest of corporate “news” down as well. Personally, once the health care stuff is decided, I will resume pressuring my representatives to push for true ala carte cable service. I have no intention of giving any company a cent if it goes to corporate “news”, especially FAUX.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:20 pmblclem says:
…You guys are making a big deal out of a production mistake.
No. We’re expressing our utter contempt for a “man” who belongs in a padded cell.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:22 pmSo, stupid troll, are you more afraid of our President addressing children or the “communist” art in Rockefeller Center? Or, perhaps, you are just piss-pants terrified of our President surrounding himself with capable, motivated, people?
September 4th, 2009 at 8:25 pmI get the sense that Beck has utter contempt for his audience. I don’t buy that he believes his schtick at all. I think he exploits a group of idiots and makes a mint off of it. I’m sure Ayn is smiling on his dark soul right now.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:26 pmNew BobbyG poll:
In general, should President BaraBlack NotQuiteAbruthah HusseinMadrassa OsamaKenyaBama — Peace Be Upon Him — be allowed to appear on television AT ALL during prime time when children might be viewing, without parental consent?
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Seriously: Americans have an increasingly bad case of The Stupids.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:50 pmYou know who really hates Czars?
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Who hates them as much as Mr. Beck does??
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…Marxists.
What is Mr. Beck not telling us about his “vision for America”??
September 4th, 2009 at 8:50 pmWhen will Faux News let this baffoon go? Seriously. This guy is flat out nuts. Advertisers have ditched him, they don’t even advertise Glen Beck’s program on their building. He is an absolute embarrassment. Although his rants, to me, are entertaining.
September 4th, 2009 at 8:57 pmBecky sure is obsessed about czars, ain’t he? Why, it’s enough to make one think that he’s only doing this cuz he’s jealous that he hasn’t been appointed as a czar yet… Let’s see, what post could Becky fill?
“Tsar of Teh Stooopid”.
“Grand Poobah of North Birfer-istan”.
“Caliph of Crackpots”.
I’m sure there’s plenty of others…
September 4th, 2009 at 9:04 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Outlaw,
Do you hate Czars, too?
September 4th, 2009 at 9:07 pmBobbyG says:
Seriously: Americans have an increasingly bad case of The Stupids.
That is a given. The question is why the MSM is letting this insanity propagate without challenging it.
September 4th, 2009 at 9:18 pmMy theory on Becky… he saw “Network” when he was in college, forgot about it about ten minutes later, but he internalized the image of Howard Beale. That disturbing caricature became the subconscious driving force in Becky’s pursuit of TV news glory. Now he’s playing it out, with no understanding of the underlying motivation for his lack of professionalism and control.
See, Becky saw “Network” not as a cautionary tale but as a blueprint. Same as ol’ Uncle Rupert.
September 4th, 2009 at 9:20 pmIt certainly is. You wouldn’t find a Republican with that kind of integrity.
September 4th, 2009 at 9:21 pmpags@48, Yeah. Oh, they show you the footage of older people ‘Exercising’ their free speech. But I hardly saw any video of that poor disabled woman in a wheelchair being heckled and hissed at. Many average people are being shouted down and screamed at by the ‘Protesters’ (Many I suspect are Birthers and Tea-Baggers) I think that average Americans know what the scoop is. This is propaganda from the Insurance industry. I hope Americans wise up to this crap.
September 4th, 2009 at 9:23 pmThey have made so many ‘production mistakes’ its uncanny.
Weasle words
September 4th, 2009 at 9:23 pmGlenn Beck is to education as to what a chainsaw is to self-impalement.
The man is getting paid $20 million to do this and his radio show! I’d be willing to be smart and charming for $500,000. I’d be saving Rupert Murdoch a helluva lot of money and I’d give Shep Smith someone to talk to.
September 4th, 2009 at 9:24 pmOh boy another new conspiracy group…the confirmers.
[band name?]
September 4th, 2009 at 9:27 pmI’ve lost track of all the “…ers”, Xisithrus . I just call ‘em all “phuckers” for the sake of efficiency.
September 4th, 2009 at 9:34 pmYeah really, ‘Birthers’ ‘Tea-Baggers’ now ‘Tenthers’??? Jesus, they are running out of names for their conspiracys. It reminds me of the Bush’s White house changing the definition of the Iraq War. “Operation Iraqi Freedom’, ‘The War on Terror’
September 4th, 2009 at 9:38 pmPakiduhrms, go figute.
September 4th, 2009 at 9:41 pm“Operation Iraqi Freedom’, ‘The War on Terror’
Stay the course. how manty times they chunked that chum around…stay the course! Followed by more directionless babble about ‘new way forward’
Yeesh
September 4th, 2009 at 9:47 pmThat’s why I think Americans are getting tired of this crap. These buzz words aren’t foolimg anybody. That is so 2005.
September 4th, 2009 at 9:51 pmSpeaking of band names, did you hear the name of Ted Nugent’s new band?
“Screeching Freepers”
September 4th, 2009 at 9:51 pmIt may be healthy to teach ‘evolution’, and how humans are NOT a functional part of it?! It has only been since the 60’s when the human brain’s ‘evolutionary component’ has been greatly targeted and treated, and in my lay, opinion there is nary a benefit to this science, and accompanying it is also an odd, unpredictable social change which occurs, when a concurrent attitude, one of the acceptance of multiple behaviors which are ‘aggressive’, may be due to: 1. Flawed Decisions: Did evolution begin before human science and theory, or else after we knew about Darwin’s research, and could ’sort-of’ describe it? 2. Impossible Decisions: Did religion exist at the beginning of time(!) or else, that may not matter at all, in America? 3. Impossible Social Argument: Science and politics are a priority together, as if the actual form of our government, and the real ’shape’ of our world, are irrelevant(e.g. in news stories)?
September 4th, 2009 at 9:53 pmRecently, progressive media put forth the pictorial notion, that the value of mud is always infinite, after a storm; but although, “It goes by, many names,” maybe there exists some sophomoric, financers of a brand new ‘mud’ publicity campaign??
I’ve got a bad case of stupid fatigue. The uproar over the President’s address to school children is the final straw. What kind of country is it where parents are afraid to let their president encourage their children, and some school systems take their concerns seriously? I could scarcely bear to look at G. W., but I’d have let him read my son the goat book cheerfully. On a positive note, even local conservative bloggers are saying it’s time to stop the crazy lies about health care. I think sane folk are beginning to turn away from the fearmongering.
September 4th, 2009 at 9:56 pmP.D. says:
I live in Jan Schakowsky’s district and it is very liberal. I do not think the people who were yelling and booing Ted Kennedy were locals. The astroturfers are going around to every town hall to stop the discussions and the MSM is treating this like these are real spontaneous confrontations. If the MSM had started debunking this as soon as it started the whole discussion would have been different. It took bloggers and other people to find the real facts with the astroturfers. The MSM should be embarrassed for being scooped on this.
September 4th, 2009 at 9:59 pm“Beck Includes Senate-Confirmed Staffer (Twice) In His Photo Of ‘Czars’ ‘Not Confirmed By Congress’”
lol
“Last month, Beck referred to OMB Director Peter Orszag, who is Senate-confirmed, as a “czar.” He later acknowledged his mistake after he was called out on it.”
lol lol
Beck is such as freakin joke. He has too much time on his hands. It is obviously that he is clueless to the definition of czar and to all of the cabinet positions under the Executive Branch. Why correct this clown? The entire Fox News including the Beckster are still pissed because the Obama Administration won’t give the network any airtime and inside info from the White House. The Fox News gravy train of constant airtime by the Sith Administration for 8 years has come to an end.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:00 pmWhatever Outlandish@46 – where’s Imus @ Faux News with the rest of the lunatic fringe leader like Beck!
September 4th, 2009 at 10:00 pmHumans ARE a functional part of their evolution as much as any other organism. Our conscious choices of mating habits alone have a clear evolutionary effect. In fact, we may have more influence over our own evolution than any organism in the history of the universe. And we certainly have more effect than any other terrestrial species.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:02 pmpeaking of band names, did you hear the name of Ted Nugent’s new band? “Screeching Freepers”
Lead singer Def Panell
September 4th, 2009 at 10:02 pmOut@62, It has been a memorable week. First that young single mother getting laughed at by that Rep. who told her to grow up and but insurance. Then the as*hole who heckled that poor disabled woman in the wheelchair (A Wheelchair!) now the Presidents School speech ‘Controversy’. Unreal. In this day and age, these parents are acting like children. Oh sure, they will claim it’s about his ‘Agenda’ but we all know it is because he is black.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:04 pmThat and the internet is debunking their myths fast as they make them
September 4th, 2009 at 10:10 pmThat may be an over-simplification, P.D. I’m beginning to think that “xenophobia” is a much more accurate term. The GOoPers are trying to capitalize on the fear of anyone, and everyone, who can be called “different”.
Racism is a part of it but there are a whole lot of prejudices in play.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:14 pmYes P. D., and don’t forget Steele’s gracious acknowledgement of a woman’s concern for her cancer striken mother. They forget everyone has, or know someone who has, a health care horror story. As to the President’s speech, I fear you are correct about the racial aspect which is sad, as finally young brown and black children can see a president who looks like them and perhaps hatch a dream of their own future.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:16 pmBECK…What more can you say.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:18 pmYou’re probably correct as well pete. I suspect those that fear “indoctrination” of their children are those that are easily manipulated themselves.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:20 pmBeck’s take on art in New York absolutely convinced me that he is raving mad. It probably does not matter to him that Holdren was confirmed by the Senate since more than half of the Senators are “Fascist, Communist, Progressive faggots” or whatever.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:22 pmI am sadly, liter-arily stuck, here? Always, expertise is paramount to the matter at hand, and the literary device, or metaphor I chose to employ, i.e. human, or animal survival, is naturally liable to become stuck to its own surrounding image, and I’m afraid that has become the case! Rather luckily, I can self-edit, and re-phrase technical English to the contrary: whereas it may be that, “Humans are the observers of evolution, some may be spiritually guided to alter that theory, for survival.”
September 4th, 2009 at 10:23 pmOut&pete@70&71, You are right pete. There is a lot of fear going on. Xenophobia, naturally, and fear of change. A lot of these people just can’t accept the fact our country is changing, in a few decades, whites WILL be the minority. That must scare the piss out of these people. And Out, I forgot all about Steele faux pas. Wasn’t he, just a couple of weeks ago DEFENDING these outbursts? I guess it doesn’t apply when it happens to him.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:26 pmThe common factor seems to be fear and a childish reaction to that fear. In fact, if I were forced to choose one word to describe the Reichwhiners it would be “childish”.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:27 pmI was nit-picking, EdgeOnIt.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:30 pmWhen in trouble, when in doubt..
Run in circles, scream and shout.
Childish indeed.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:31 pmAt least two of the czars are Republican worthy, Ashton Carter and Nancy-Ann DeParle, both private equity underwriters before joining the Obama team.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:34 pmThese people are more than childish, they are dangerous. There is something that needs to be cleared up fot me though. The man who’s finger was biten off. Was he the victim or aggresser. On CNN, they depicted him as the victim, but i swear i read he was one of the protesters who confronted a pro-reform older man. What gives?
September 4th, 2009 at 10:39 pmDon’t know the full story PD, but it would be pretty darned difficult to bite anyone’s finger unless they first shoved in in your mouth.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:41 pmLora says:
Beck’s take on art in New York absolutely convinced me that he is raving mad.
Welcome to the club, Lora. As a, former, conservative (more of a committed moderate with a slight lean to minimizing government spending) myself I understand the desire to see some remaining semblance of reason in the Reichwing. Alas, that ship has sailed.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:41 pmI bet all the school districts are overjoyed with glee that Glenn Beck could be costing them state funds by having absent student after absent student not in their seats, due to his retarded rebel alliance.
That isn’t very Ronald Reagan of him, hurting the states like this!
September 4th, 2009 at 10:42 pmOut@82, Yeah, MSM just kind of dropped the story didn’t they? That’s why I think the guy who lost his finger was the aggresser. But who knows? And Mr@84, LOL! this is as stupid as Michelle Bachman telling her constuents not to fill out their census forms. We all know that is how districts get their Federal money. Idiots!
September 4th, 2009 at 10:47 pmInfinitely fathomless shallows
September 4th, 2009 at 10:47 pmUnitary operating system
Cranial rectal symbiosis
You gotta acknowledge that the wingnuts really have nothing to grab onto with Obama, if they’re making big deals out of crap like his “czars”.
All they’ve got is meaningless stuff, or outright lies. It’s pretty pathetic.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:48 pmI don’t think anyone knows what really happened with the finger biting, P.D. and, you’re right, they are dangerous. But a big part of the danger stems from their lack of ability to handle emotions as adults. Many of them have all the faculties of a two-year old throwing a tantrum.
I have a healthy respect for their ability to snap, one by one, and rack up some horrifying body counts. But I don’t see how they will exercise legitimate political power for the foreseeable future. They are more dangerous individually than as a group.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:49 pmIt’s fair to say, ralph, that there is nothing logical or patriotic or consistent about the Reichwing opposition. If the remaining dregs of the GOP were not so stupid/crazy they would die laughing just listening to each other.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:53 pmralph@87, They have tried everything haven’t they? From ‘Birthers’ to ‘Tea-Baggers’ and now ‘Tenthers’ and yet according to the latest Pew poll (Which MSM hasn’t even reported), Obama climbed to 55% approval rating again. I think this whole ‘Town Hall’ protest is starting to back fire. People screaming at young people, the disabled and anyone who doesn’t conform to their thinking. The protesters are mostly old, white and angry folks whom many have ‘Medicare’. Enough is enough.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:55 pmAnd, back to the finger biting, I’m guessing that the aggressor wasn’t a liberal. Otherwise FAUX would be scrolling “liberals are cannibals” 24/7.
September 4th, 2009 at 10:57 pmYou may be right, P.D. I’ve been saying, for days, that the Dems best move may be to let the GOoPers rave at will. It would be hard to say anything more damaging than what the poor GOoPers are saying themselves.
September 4th, 2009 at 11:00 pmpete. Amen. They are dangerous. And when they get together they display a frightening mob mentality. But as indivuals they are more scary. The man who murdered Dr. Tiller for instance. He was goaded from the radical views of these anti-abortion groups and he acted. And what did the groups such as ‘Operation Rescue’ do? They dropped him. And claimed they had nothing to do with him.(Although he was giving them money for years)
September 4th, 2009 at 11:01 pmI dont recall that Rove was ever confirmed
September 4th, 2009 at 11:13 pmP.D.
Have you read “The Authoritarians”? It’s an online book that pretty much explains, complete with graphs and quantitative analysis, the Right-wing mind. It makes frequent reference to “compartmentalization” and I think that’s what you refer to when talking about how they scramble to absolve themselves from blame.
Here’s the link if you feel like a reading project. I skipped a good night’s sleep and a couple meals once I got into it.
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
September 4th, 2009 at 11:16 pmXisithrus says:
I dont recall that Rove was ever confirmed
That’s what’s called a “logical argument”. I think we’ve established that they don’t work with Reichwhiners.
September 4th, 2009 at 11:19 pmpete@95, Maybe I’ll give it a try. But I’m at the point where I don’t give a Sh*t about why they behave the way they do. I’m just so tired of trying to figure them out. They defy all logic and reason.
September 4th, 2009 at 11:22 pm@#44 – Beck was at CNN for a short time (maybe a year?) but was canned and he ended up at Fox. He is EXACTLY what Murdoch and Ailes want, so they will keep him on and keep encouraging him.
The common thought is that Murdoch has taken Sarah Palin under his wing and wants to run her in 2012. Murdoch is very wealthy and very dangerous. If in doubt, just google his name and read Wickipedia’s info – especially look at the long list of his holdings and you will see he has a finger in just about every aspect of business and media around the world. He’s tried (and succeeded) at buying leaders in the past and that’s apparently what he’s trying to do now – buy himself control of the United States. He’s not far from it as things currently are.
Although most of the sponsors backed away from Beck’s show, they are still with Fox and I don’t think any amount of petitioning or boycotting will chase many of them away from Fox completely. Murdoch is not going to worry about losing what to him is probably pocket change, if he is successful at what he’s trying to accomplish.
I think people are underestimating Murdoch, along with the religious dominionists, and I sure wish the media would do a bit of investigative journalism…….haven’t seen much of that out of any of them in a long time.
September 4th, 2009 at 11:27 pm@#62 – Agreed – when Joe Scarborough actually speaks out TWO DAYS IN A ROW, that it is stupid to go on like this about children not hearing Obama speak, then you KNOW some are starting to wake up. Kudos to MSNBC for taking down Buchanan’s assinine composition that blames Churchill for Hitler starting the war and all that crap. Now they just need to cancel his contract once and for all.
O/T – HuffPost article about Fox not carrying Obama’s speech to Congress and underneath was *breaking news from Fox that Obama was going to tell the kids to kill mommy and daddy while they were asleep and it would be in some dot and dash code* – That is the ultimate in sickness! Murdoch managed with his connections to get so many laws changed which allowed him to own so many media outlets – practically a monopoly – so now there are not many ways to stop him.
September 4th, 2009 at 11:38 pmThat’s what’s called a “logical argument”. I think we’ve established that they don’t work with Reichwhiners.
It [logic] would put a real damper on their finger pointing parade of pathetic pundits
September 4th, 2009 at 11:40 pmHuh. Increased political revenues..could it be thats whats driving advertising revenue down? One could hope.
September 4th, 2009 at 11:48 pmOPEN THREADS – What are the chances of the Moderator allowing an open thread each day. There are so many things happening every day that we want to discuss, but TP can’t be expected to have dozens of separate topics. Nearly everyone of these threads going right now have more comments off topic than on.
September 4th, 2009 at 11:56 pmAnyone have thoughts on this?
O/T – I refuse to go on Palin’s Facebook page, but on another blog one of the poster had been there and one of Palin’s fans had a statement about doing away with Obama and Palin would be the president in 2012 – I know, you all are thinking we keep hearing that – but the kicker was a picture of a child dressed up as a KKK clan member with a sign that said something to the effect of *we are coming to get you*.
They holler that Obama is going to indoctrinate the children by encouraging them to go to school and study……yet there is no law against a parent indoctrinating them to be so racist!
One wonders when the insanity will stop. Right now, we don’t have any Democrat who can speak up and be listened to – the opposition surely isn’t listening to Obama. We need our own *Great White Hope* and the only Dem who has spoken up and managed to calm protesters down at his town hall was……..AL FRANKEN.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:06 amNearly everyone of these threads going right now have more comments off topic than on. Anyone have thoughts on this?
No, but did see this? The Honolulu City Council drops a proposed law that would have made it a crime to ride public transportation with excessive body odor.
Im sure Beck will be covering it tomorrow and how Obama has a deap seated hatred for odorers.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:10 amI think alot of them see public education itself as indoctrination…
September 5th, 2009 at 12:17 am@104 – Saw that proposed law on another blog. Apparently, with the warm climate and many people using public transportation, it tends to get a bit *ripe* from time to time.
One of the things pointed out by the blogger (who lives in Honolulu) is that there are many unemployed and homeless folks and their only way of getting around for job hunting or whatever, is by bus. If they are homeless, they obviously don’t have a shower and laundry handy……but on the other hand, appearing at a prospective employer smelling and with dirty clothes isn’t conducive to getting hired either.
The city is aware of the homeless problem and are trying to address it, but the ones complaining and wanting that ordinance are either to blind to the poverty, or just don’t have a lick of sympathy and understanding.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:20 amWatched Beck for the first time tonite…….the dude is just plain nuts…. obviously suffering ODS.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:51 am33.Xisithrus says:
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We must take our own medicine and decrease demand for this crapola rather than worrying (too much) about supply…
Im not sure the problem is supply and demand when it comes to health insurance. Its not a hamburger, a t-shirt or a car your buying.
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Jeez, I’m sure it’s way too late. I wasnt talking about healthcare or health insurance.
I was talking about cutting the demand for the Beck crapola. THAT, is subject to supply and demand.
But thanks for the lessons on health insurance (which I agree is not an efficient market product). :)
September 5th, 2009 at 1:17 am33.Xisithrus says…
BTW, it feels like you are conflating health insurance and healthcare — even though the thread wasnt about either :)
September 5th, 2009 at 1:31 amMurdooooch! you bastard!
September 5th, 2009 at 2:10 amIt’s the executive producers and owners we need to expose. We need to talk about why they feel they can destroy our world for profit.
September 5th, 2009 at 2:12 am99.999~% of government positions aren’t confirmed by the Senate. The (patently ridiculous term) “czar” has come to refer to any position that coordinates between two or more agencies, whether it’s high-level or not, whether it’s Senate-confirmed or not. None of the people informally referred to as a “czar” actually have that as their job title. Their job titles are actually far more specific, with restrictive job descriptions, just like any other government employee.
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GreatGranny2B says:
OPEN THREADS – What are the chances of the Moderator allowing an open thread each day. There are so many things happening every day that we want to discuss, but TP can’t be expected to have dozens of separate topics. Nearly everyone of these threads going right now have more comments off topic than on.
Anyone have thoughts on this?
The “ThinkFast” thread posted daily is pretty good for that purpose.
September 5th, 2009 at 2:18 amJudge has ruled Ashcroft can be sued for what he did while AG.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-ashcroft-rights5-2009sep05,0,2169737.story
John promptly craps his pants.
September 5th, 2009 at 2:25 amThe most hysterically funny thing that Beck says has to do with elections in general and the Republican party in particular. Republicans are making certain that the party is just one big monologue of approved beliefs. Therefore, the
September 5th, 2009 at 3:05 amRepublican voting pool is getting smaller and smaller. But, Mr. Beck, if you like your own company you should be pretty happy with the Republican Party because you have succeeded in chasing thinking Republicans right out of the party. And your monologues at the beginning of your show are getting absolutely spooky to reasonable people.
blclem says:
Its Becks show MORON, he is responsible for its content. YOU are making excuses for an ignorant crazed weasel
September 5th, 2009 at 3:14 amYou know what scares me? All these wizards! Think about it. There must be a couple of dozen wizards on every computer. And think about how many computers there are in the world. The wizards on my computers have gotten together and decided to ‘mess with my mind’. I try to open an important file only to find that it is corrupted or completely missing. When I let loose with an expletive, I hear the wizards snickering until one of them shushes the others. And if my wizards are doing this kind of stuff to me, I’m certain other people’s wizards are doing likewise to them; but those people probably are just not smart enough (like moi) to figure out what is going on. Just imagine what it’s going to be like when all the wizards on everyone’s computers figure how to use the internet to communicate with each other and plot against all of us (assuming they haven’t already)! Damn that Bill Gates; may he burn in Hell!
September 5th, 2009 at 4:19 amBeck: “Never before have there been so many executive posts that were not confirmed by Congress and who answered only to the president.”
Let’s review some of the czar titles that the Sith Administration created:
a. For information technology infrastructure, Bush named a cybersecurity czar.
b.
September 5th, 2009 at 4:54 amDICKERSON3870 says:
Damn that Bill Gates; may he burn in Hell!
Well obviously, Obama’s behind the rise of wizardry these days…
September 5th, 2009 at 4:55 amBeck: “Never before have there been so many executive posts that were not confirmed by Congress and who answered only to the president.”
Let’s review some of the czar titles [which were wasteful titles] that the Sith Administration created:
a. For information technology infrastructure, Bush named a cybersecurity czar.
b. For Beck: “Never before have there been so many executive posts that were not confirmed by Congress and who answered only to the president.”
Let’s review some of the czar titles that the Sith Administration created:
a. For information technology infrastructure, Bush named a cybersecurity czar.
b. Beck: “Never before have there been so many executive posts that were not confirmed by Congress and who answered only to the president.”
Let’s review some of the czar titles that the Sith Administration created:
a. For information technology infrastructure, Bush named a cybersecurity czar.
b. For corporate benefactors led to the creation of a “regulatory czar” at the Office of Management and Budget.
c. “AIDS Czar” was created. Bush appointed Randall Tobias who later resigned becuase he was client of the DC Madam.
d. For struggling manufacturing industries, Bush appointed a “manufacturing czar.”
e. To correct the failed national security intelligence Bush created an “intelligence czar” position.
f. “Bird-flu czar” created for the bird flu epidemic.
g. In handling of the response to Hurricane Katrina, there was a “Katrina czar.”
Beck wouldn’t know the definition of a “czar” if it bit him in the butt. I bet if Obama created a media czar position that would oversee all the media coverages of the White House, Beck and Fox News would go through hoops to apply for that job in a heart beat.
September 5th, 2009 at 5:05 amThe reason, I think, they are using the word czar so much [think like Luntz here] is because it can be used to ‘frame’ someone with a favorite fear of theirs.
September 5th, 2009 at 8:03 amSure he would, he would say “Karl, is that you again?” with a smile.
September 5th, 2009 at 8:07 amA FOX watcher has a memory span of about three months, SP Biloxi, after that the neurons spark gap is burnt out, stops firing, hamster wheel stops turning and the information is permanently lost.
September 5th, 2009 at 8:12 amAdditionally, in his photo gallery of “czars,” Beck included two pictures of director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy John Holdren, …
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26. Xisithrus says: Top right. And third row, second from right. Also look like the same guy. September 4th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
What’s more, third from right in third row looks like Richard Holbrooke. Since when is an ambassador with a specific area portfolio a “czar”.
I think the point that Beck conflates ‘czar’ and ‘communist’ because they’re both Russian may be correct. He’s so poorly educated that he isn’t aware of the old Russian monarchy, or that ‘czar’, ‘tsar’, ‘kaiser’ and ‘caesar’ are cognates.
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September 5th, 2009 at 11:32 amHoldren is the proud author of “Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment” with Paul and Anne Ehrlich (of population bomb fame). It’s a standard textbook at the Pentagon. The book is fully available online. Both he and Erlich argued for “population control measures” such as forced sterilization and abortion. Sure he wants to sterilize you, but I hear he’s a really nice guy for a czar.
September 5th, 2009 at 11:45 amOh by the way, Bush had more czars than Obama (36 vs. 32).
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September 5th, 2009 at 11:48 amHave you met Sesli? If not try the privacy center….
Funny, the only place I find that interpretation of Holdren’s writings are at faux and glen becks website.
September 5th, 2009 at 11:58 amThere is no point in trying to “correct” Beck or any of his ilk.
The lie gets round the world before the truth is out of bed, as Mark Twain said.
Correcting the lies requires time, context, analysis. Murkins don’t do “nuance.” It’s too “french,” or something.
There is only one solution to the likes of Beck: scurrilous, false attacks, accusing him of child-molestation, and probably murder; making it disgraceful to ‘quote’ him.
He’s a “public figure,” and cannot be slandered.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:16 pmFred, try reading the book. Also, for what it’s worth try Wikipedia.
When you read the book, it says that the noncoercive means are preferable, but if the population of the US gets to above 280 million, then that’s just too much and we’ll be forced to forcibly sterilize and abort.
Page 837:
Page 838:
Page 787:
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September 5th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Beck loves “czars” and “czrucks” and even “czarplanes”…
anything for the sandbox…
September 5th, 2009 at 12:18 pmBy the way, wiki means nothing.
Further, I don’t read any suggestion of what you say the book says. I read it as looking to the future to a time when population control will inevitably be an issue, whether you like it or not.
I also don’t read any sinister or dangerous motives into it as you do. I know you are afraid but where did he suggest anything other than working within the law in the most extreme case of overpopulation?
It’s like taking verses out of the bible and twisting their meaning to suit your need. You’re not even good at it.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:27 pmAlejandro, I know you guys don’t like Nobel Prize winners but twisting people’s words doesn’t make a case for you when it is easy to debunk.
Why don’t you just stick with Obama is a Muslim or Nazi?
September 5th, 2009 at 12:30 pm@133,
I’ll bet he eats czardines on czrackers, also!
September 5th, 2009 at 12:33 pmSo you’re cool with putting sterilants in the water supply. Good to know.
Ha ha! “Working within the law” Did you read the part where The Planetary Regime would in some cases have to circumvent the law of sovereign nations? Besides, all the nasty dictators of the world and throughout history worked within the law. The Patriot Act is the law. Warrantless Wiretaps are the law. Asset forfeiture is the law. on and on…
Also, to these people, 280 million in the US was too much and if it happened by 2000, that would mean that action would have to be taken.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:35 pmforced sterilization and abortion.
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I heard that after they forced the children to pledge alligence to the socialist cause they wer gonna take over McDonald’s and make them serve dead baby juice shakes and Mctax them….
Making stuff up is fun…
September 5th, 2009 at 12:37 pmI didnt write the part thats blockquoted, notice the name thats NOT mine at the end, RWeSafer…..
September 5th, 2009 at 12:39 pmAlejandro, if the right doesn’t stop persecuting planned parenthood and other progressive agencies that help people prevent unwanted pregnancies and is much more effective than abstinance to prevent teen pregnacies then we are headed for a crisis.
Thankfully the right has fallen from grace and maybe we can prevent such a crisis with locial, common sense.
I know you want to read something sinister into it because you want to. So?
September 5th, 2009 at 12:39 pmThe Nobel Peace Prize? The one that Henry Kissinger got? The one that Yassir Arafat got? The one that Menachim Begin got?
Look, some people may deserve it, like Jimmy Carter, Andrei Sakharov, Lech Walesa, and El Baradei, but they get it quite wrong often enough.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:41 pmAlejandro, I have to assume from your obvious fear that you were equally upset with the bush admin who actually did break laws to further their agenda, right?
I mean if you are going to tremble and see ghosts in every corner you surely were terrified under bush where the evil actually got out of the box.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:43 pmWell, the Nobel prize is named after the guy that invented dynamite and our Orwellians igmos think war [dynamite] is peace.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:44 pmSo you’re cool with putting sterilants in the water supply. Good to know.
Take a good look at any urban hydrologist’s report on drinking water. There are MORE than trace amounts of all kinds of funky chemicals wandering around in there: stimulants, depressants, anesthetics, dick-pills, all kinds of crap that most urban filtration systems don’t capture…
I’d say, put all kinds of sterilants in the water, especially in Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina.
And LSD, to make it go down better…
September 5th, 2009 at 12:44 pmWhat part of “compulsory population control” do you not understand?
I know those words are like 6th grade reading level, but I’m sure you can get it eventually.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:44 pmAlejandro, are you saying Yassir Arafat & Menachim Begin did not deserve it? Sad that you think that people who work towards peace don’t deserve recognition.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pmI’d say, put all kinds of sterilants in the water, especially in Texas
Pffft. Wont work unless you put in in their favorite beverage: Budweiser. =)
September 5th, 2009 at 12:47 pmReally, let’s just put cyanide in there and get it over with. We’ll call it the Final Solution.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:47 pmAlejandro, you are just a typical winger who flings feces and now that you are obviously being challenged on your presumptions you begin namecalling revealing your child like mentality. Sad.
Next, stage 3, Alejandro will claim to be the victim of assults here on the blog.
by the way, go ahead an vote me down all you want. It’s pretty amusing when there is only one of you fussing and fuming and those who challenge you get “1″ and only “1″ vote down. It’s really a gas.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:48 pmYes, I understand how only a 6th grader would take two or three lines out of context and build a case that is not supported by reading the entire manuscript. I’ve seen you do it before.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:50 pmDont need no stinking population control. Just let all the igmoes come together in one land, like when they turned NYC into a prison, except bigger, and let the intolerants intolerate each other tp pieces.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:51 pmI’d say all the things they did against peace would negate the one time they gave lip service to peace. But, you’re right. Israel and Palestine are totally peaceful now because of what these men did, so they deserve a medal.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:51 pm.
#46 Outhouse,
Sorry for the late response…
You asked, “And just how many of those were not senate confirmed.”
Before I answer your query, I’ll forgive you for the inability to Google from your local in the crapper, but doing a quick point and click AT the Wiki link, you could count that besides a few being a “recess appointments” there were, by my count…
… 20 Czars “appointed” and NOT Senate confirmed.
:)
Bumping your head when diving into the shallow pool of life gots-ta suk.
September 5th, 2009 at 12:51 pmThis post in the comments section of Think Progress just made my irony meter explode. Thanks a lot.
I’ve got to go. I think I’ll go forcibly sterilize a few people. It’s a nice day. Why not?
September 5th, 2009 at 12:53 pmReally, let’s just put cyanide in there and get it over with. We’ll call it the Final Solution.
You fascist phux got a real problem with subtlety, doncha…
September 5th, 2009 at 12:53 pmAlejandro, I gave you one chance to discuss this rationally at 140, you never addressed it. Instead you launched into a diatribe about a bunch of fallacies that have been long debunked as right wing smear.
Then you called me a sixth grader but ironically detected irony in my response. Ironic.
September 5th, 2009 at 1:00 pmI guess I went a little overboard with the irony thing but god, the right just doesn’t get it.
September 5th, 2009 at 1:02 pmdumbAs$
Yes, I am talking to you.
Do you know which Dear Leader was in charge when that horrific figure of 280 million in USA population was reached?
Add to that Dear Leader starting two wars that were supposed to be over quickly and become a shining bacon of Chimpocracy, and clock and interest are still running.
I don’t need to suggest the GOPigs be rounded up and neutered, wingnutz like bat sht crazy is already suggesting them GOPiggies slit their wrists in a suicide pact.
And bat sht crazy thinks she has a bigger chance at the WH than Moose Boogers.
September 5th, 2009 at 1:04 pm#56 P.D.
First it was…
Opperation
Iraqi
Liberation
Then it was…
Opperation
Iraqi
Freedumb
Later to be called…
The
War
On
Terror
Only to be renamed…
The
Global
War
On
Terror
ANd then strengthened into…
The
Global
War
Against
Extremists
Only to be renamed by the MSM for convenience…
“THE WAR IN IRAQ”
Later, shortened into…
“THE IRAQ WAR”
And, at that same time, Bush was reselling it as…
“Freedumb Agenda”
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September 5th, 2009 at 1:05 pmExcerpts from a book written 30 + years ago at the dawn of the field of population ecology might not be entirely apllicable but the question of too many hamsters in the habitrail remains a valid one…
September 5th, 2009 at 1:06 pm160 dbadass
Indeed, the issue of sustainability is valid.
But the GOPigs are resorting to Soylent Green scare tactics.
In one hand they are dismissing the harmful effects of polluting our own home, then they want to stop tech advances that lead to a better living.
Remember, they want to “take back America” to the stone age.
September 5th, 2009 at 1:21 pmRigid population control is, most likely, our future. But, if we don’t do it ourselves? Nature will do it for us.
September 5th, 2009 at 1:25 pmHoliday weekend light posting, huh?
September 5th, 2009 at 2:10 pmYou want indoctrination, watch FOX regularly.
September 5th, 2009 at 2:16 pmThey should call Flocks Noose the Team-B Alternative reality channel
September 5th, 2009 at 2:17 pmFIFTY years from now the world’s population will be declining, with no end in sight. Unless people’s values change greatly, several centuries from now there could be fewer people living in the entire world than live in the United States today. The big surprise of the past twenty years is that in not one country did fertility STOP FALLING when it reached the replacement rate — 2.1 children per woman.
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/99aug/9908popdrop.htm
September 5th, 2009 at 2:41 pmBeck has poor reading comprehension skills regarding the Constitution.
Article II gives the POTUS the power to appoint: “all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law; but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.”
Beck doesn’t know what he claims to know.
September 5th, 2009 at 3:29 pmAlejandro says:
Holdren is the proud author of…
Not that it’s got anything to do with anything, but how far in the future are these scenarios he’s talking about? If I say that someday humans will colonize space does that mean that I intend to put you in a rocketship? Was that a proposal or a prediction?
Furthermore, what is your long term solution to unchecked global population growth? Make the Earth bigger? Have more wars? Hold a Rapture? Unless you’ve got a different solution to deal with the problem in mind, there’s no point in listening to you criticize this guy’s work on the subject.
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majii says:
Beck has poor reading comprehension skills regarding the Constitution.
Good catch. Wingnuts hate the Constitution. That’s why they keep trying to misrepresent what it says.
September 5th, 2009 at 4:23 pm@168, ElBruce, September 5th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Why be so picky and specific. Wingnuts hate any law, not just the Constitution, especially when they 1) don’t understand it and 2) are being beaten around the head and shoulders with it.
Misrepresentation just goes hand in hand with misunderstanding it, which in their case is like having poor reading comprehension skills with respect to anything, starting with alphabet soup.
September 5th, 2009 at 5:33 pmmajii says: (@167)
Excellent point, majii. If the Congress has decided that a position needs no Senate confirmation, then it is perfectly constitutional for the president to appoint someone without their approval. It is a well-documented tactic of today’s right wing to ignore facts that contradict the points they are trying to make. And the reason is simply that the truth does not matter to them.
They argue as though the only thing that matters is what you believe, not what is actually true. Just because a commonly-heard axiom of politics is that “Perception is reality,” it doesn’t mean that this applies to every single thing. For one thing, reality is reality, no matter how much one wishes to deny it. And much of the foundations of their political arguments are not grounded in actual reality.
They forget that they would be right IF and only IF the foundations of their thinking were correct.
September 5th, 2009 at 6:07 pmMax@13, you just listed all of chimpy’s failures.
Only the stupids would listen to his lying ass.
September 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pmWhy is Benn Gleck so obsessive about the Soviet Union?
Did the KGB take his momma out?
September 5th, 2009 at 8:39 pm172 Responses to “Beck Includes Senate-Confirmed Staffer (Twice) In His Photo of ‘Czars’ ‘Not Confirmed By Congress’
Beck included two pictures of director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy John Holdren — Oh the horror if it, he posted a picture twice, I’ll never be able to bear the sound of his name again,
If this is the best you got, than you need to go back to channel surfing. Talk about grasping for straws
September 5th, 2009 at 9:31 pmWell at least you’re off the streets and can’t hurt anyone
September 5th, 2009 at 9:32 pmI heard becky managed to chase away 47 sponsors, so far.
I believe becky would do his show for free, because he has great faith in his bs. HAHAHAHAHAHA
He doesn’t understand, just like all teabaggin repugs don’t understand, hate isn’t funny, lies about our government aren’t funny, blood isn’t funny, healthcare isn’t funny, and stupid isn’t popular any more.
One would have to be a fool to compromise with stupids. stupids are in their happy place. Let them be. The msm are more like a 3rd rated tabloid.
The only people not understand healthcare reforms are stupids. They will never understand plain English.
They understand grunts, growls and screaming.
They should hold these kkk meets at night, like they use to.
OT
September 5th, 2009 at 11:04 pmAfter skimming tp’s headlines, repugs really are racist and out of their minds.
i aint you
Are you treated like a rock star on teabaggin blogs?
September 5th, 2009 at 11:28 pmi aint you says:
Beck included two pictures of director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy John Holdren — Oh the horror if it, he posted a picture twice, I’ll never be able to bear the sound of his name again,
If this is the best you got, than you need to go back to channel surfing. Talk about grasping for straws
It appears that you may be missing the point. It isn’t simply that he included one person twice, it’s that the one person he included twice was confirmed by the Senate. And he also included Elizabeth Warren, who actually works for Congress, not the president. So she’s not one of his “czars”.
Do facts like these make even the least bit of difference to you? Because, if not, then I know I’m wasting my time responding to you.
September 5th, 2009 at 11:40 pmThe recent fifty-year (?)’rush to truth’ has utilized statistical methods which are only mildly applicable, and are wishful thinking, to the maximum! Beyond the basic statistics: 1)regression, (multiple regression) and, 2) confidence intervals, the large sub-field of predicting errors is untruthful! Statistics has become largely a rush to test, for errors, while solving no clear practical (economic), hurdles or impedements? So that a proper accounting of those elected offices, lableled as ‘czar’ jobs, both past and present, has to properly define the office of ‘czar’ ONLY ONCE; however, it then may try to suggest the terms ‘czar’s historical utility, but it must move on to assemble a ‘parent population’ which in no way calls up the history of ‘czars’! Finally, it must draw conclusions which are either inductive, or deductive!?
September 6th, 2009 at 12:01 am178. EdgeOnIt says: The recent fifty-year (?)’rush to truth’ has utilized statistical methods which are only mildly applicable, and are wishful thinking, to the maximum! Beyond the basic statistics: 1)regression, (multiple regression) and, 2) confidence intervals, the large sub-field of predicting errors is untruthful! Statistics has become largely a rush to test, for errors, while solving no clear practical (economic), hurdles or impedements? So that a proper accounting of those elected offices, lableled as ‘czar’ jobs, both past and present, has to properly define the office of ‘czar’ ONLY ONCE; however, it then may try to suggest the terms ‘czar’s historical utility, but it must move on to assemble a ‘parent population’ which in no way calls up the history of ‘czars’! Finally, it must draw conclusions which are either inductive, or deductive!?
September 6th, 2009 at 12:01 am
Statisticians and data analysts would be happy to tell you 1) you are mistaken and 2) garbage in, garbage out. As an engineer and analyst, I’d be pleased to concur with them, rather than you.
Your hop, skip, and jump from an assertion about statistics, to something about czars, to an assertion that limits conclusions to arguments that draw solely on inductive or deductive reasoning or both is a non-sequitor.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:18 amVirtual Pebble: You may be right concerning the lack of cohesion of my last comment, but as a Provost of Harvard mentioned last week, to would-be ‘genetic manipulators’, new products must measure up to practical standards; furthermore, standards already exist, and they indicate to me(and IMO also to that esteemed, Provost) that one cannot endeavor to reinvent-those-already-invented-standards, for ‘lightbulbs’!?
September 6th, 2009 at 7:17 amCongrats Glen. One communist down and 30 or 40 more to go.
Keep exposing these people for who they are Glen. Anti-American freedom haters that work tirelessly to cripple the capitalist system that has made this country great and the envy of the world. What other country in the world entices immigrants to flee their own country to come here for a better life? The liberal eutopia of Cuba with a dictator (Fidel Castro) that the left holds in such high esteem?
If these knuckle dragger communists are left to rule this country any longer then immigrants will no longer risk their lives to come here for a better life … Because there will be no work. Only misery and despair.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm181. Tim43 says: Congrats Glen. One communist down and 30 or 40 more to go. Keep exposing these … Anti-American freedom haters that work tirelessly to cripple … this country …. What other country in the world entices immigrants to flee their own country to come here for a better life? The liberal eutopia of Cuba with a dictator (Fidel Castro) that the left holds in such high esteem? If these knuckle dragger communists are left to rule this country any longer then immigrants will no longer risk their lives to come here for a better life … Because there will be no work. Only misery and despair. September 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Speaking of ka nuckle draggers, Timmeh, we’re just trying to do what you want, ya know. You guys don’t want any more immigrants, ’specially the brown ones that might have a Cuban agent or two mixed in with them. Just ask Glen, he’ll tell ya. Even if they don’t have a Cuban hiding out with them, they might have one of those liberation front doods from Hell Salvador or Ni**erAgua, ya know. Just ask Glen, he’ll tell ya. So if we trash the system, that’ll stop all that, just like you say, ya know. Just ask Glen, he’ll tell ya.
A minor point of etiquette or two though, before I leave you to inquire of Glen. First, liberals and sandalistas are not the same thing. Liberals do not approve of dictators of the left any more than they approve of dictators of the right. That’s one of the things that make us different from righties; righties just love them some righty dictators, but there are no liberal dictators. In fact, the phrase “liberal dictator” is close enough to oxymoronic to be indistinguishable from self-contradictory.
The other minor point is that on TP’s pages, it is you, the Trolls, who are knuckledraggers. Now go play, but remember to mind your manners in the presence of your betters, Timmeh.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:53 pm180. EdgeOnIt says:
Virtual Pebble: You may be right concerning the lack of cohesion of my last comment, but as a Provost of Harvard mentioned last week, to would-be ‘genetic manipulators’, new products must measure up to practical standards; furthermore, standards already exist, and they indicate to me(and IMO also to that esteemed, Provost) that one cannot endeavor to reinvent-those-already-invented-standards, for ‘lightbulbs’!? September 6th, 2009 at 7:17 am
That’s an interesting comment, Edge, but I don’t know what it has to do with Beck’s poster of the new administration’s stsars and stsaristas.
OTOH, if you and the Provost had spent any time working in standards based organizations as I have (which ones would you like to discuss; ISO, ANSI, MIL, IEEE, ASME, CMMI…?) you’d know that standards, including the standards for biological and medical processes and institutions, are not static. They’re always under review; they’re only static from revision to revision, they’re under revision control.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:06 pmVirtual Pebble: my training in sociology was sadly, lacking in any degrees; however, with the Professor Emeritus who I had the priviledge of knowing as a teacher, I learned to ’stick to my business’! Sry, I have NEVER heard of such a group, who’s bureaucratic purpose is to correct, social standards!! Nor have I suffered grading in upper level statistical-error-managment courses, and so I ’stick to the business’ of simple regression and confidence interval assessments; therefore, it is offensive to me: 1) when parent populations are ‘fudged’ after their initial definition, in the name of ‘conformance’, during corresponding vagueness vis.a.vis. end-products or services; and when at the end of the day pure fantasy becomes a phantasmagoric notion that is allowed to ‘control’ pharmaceutical products, and medical services 2) IMO, these imaginary products and services can put people, and families at unnecessary risk(this is a deductive, conclusion)! Here, the personal element, WHICH IS ERROR FREE, BY ITS OWN NATURE, is missing, and yet some are able to do local, descriptive, epidemiology; however the real caution to those survey takers may be too little, and extremely late: DO NOT ENTER A HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOOD, IN SEARCH OF SICK PEOPLE!! Otherwise, data will be fatally flawed, and results will be inexplicably, biased!!?
September 7th, 2009 at 10:05 am@ 184, EdgeOnIt
Edge, I’m not even going to try to parse what you pasted in 184; you’re running close to bafflegab. Also, this has gone far enough OT that I’m not inclined to pursue the matter further than the comments below.
There are a lot of standards organizations out there. Virtually every professional society functions, in part, as a standards organization. There are also governmental standards organizations, international standards organizations, and a few others, such as Underwriters Laboratory. A lot of standards organizations have representation or observers at the primary international standards organization, The International Organization for Standardization, aka ISO, which publishes the ISO standards.
Aside from good practice in statistics, there are standards dealing with data, data management, etc. For your entertainment, I’ve pasted a few links.
September 7th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
@185. Ha, the link pasting didn’t work out. Too bad.
September 7th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
186. trying again
September 7th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
@ 185. Edge, you’ll just have to plug ISO into your browser and go look at it yourself – the link should be the usual thing, http://www.iso.org/
September 7th, 2009 at 12:37 pmTim43 says:
Thanks for stopping by to remind us how stupid you are and what a lying punk you are. If you are trying to maintain your hold on the stupidest troll of all time you have stiff competition. You are still a liar and a fool without a shred of decency or integrity however. Good for you
September 7th, 2009 at 8:38 pmThank you for your sharing.!
September 11th, 2009 at 2:29 pm