Rejecting Conservative Hysteria, Gingrich And Alexander Say Obama’s Education Speech Is ‘Good’
Rejecting Conservative Hysteria, Gingrich And Alexander Say Obama’s Education Speech Is ‘Good’
Earlier this week, ThinkProgress noted how conservatives are freaking out over President Obama’s upcoming speech to America’s schoolchildren, in which he will explain to them the value of “persisting and succeeding in school.” Conservatives, such as Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN), have been fearmongering over the speech, claiming that it is “school indoctrination.”
On Fox News Sunday this morning, host Chris Wallace asked former House Speaker Newt Gingrich about the controversy, noting that in 1991 Gingrich defended a similar speech by then-President George H.W. Bush by saying, “Why is it political for the president of the United States to discuss education?” Gingrich replied that if it’s “a totally positive speech” that parents can see “in advance” (which they can), then “it is good to have”:
GINGRICH: My daughter Jackie Cushman just wrote a column in which she said, “if the president gives a speech as a parent to students to encourage them to learn and stay in school, it is a great thing for him to do.” It was a good thing for Ronald Reagan to do. It was a good thing for George H. W. Bush to do. And I’ve been communicating with Arne Duncan and the team at the Department of Education. I believe this is going to be posted, people are going to be able to see it in advance, it’s going to be a totally positive speech, and if that’s what it is, then it is good to have the president of the United States say to young people across America: Stay in school, study and do your homework. It’s good for you and it’s good for America.
Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN), who was Secretary of Education under the first President Bush, also defended Obama’s speech, saying “of course the president of the United States should be able to address students and of course parents and teachers should decide in what context.” Watch it:
But when Wallace asked Gingrich if some of his “fellow conservatives” should “back off,” the former House Speaker dodged the question, claiming that “Sean Hannity, by the way, has publicly said this is a good thing.” In fact, on his show this week, Hannity said that he “would not normally have a problem [with] any president that wants to address schoolchildren, wants to encourage them to study hard, to develop — to learn, to have a great education” then added, “But when you read the specifics here…it seems very close to indoctrination, or at least has the potential.”
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It is a pathetic commentary on the state of discourse that it matters whether those two approve of a speech given by the President of the United States to school children.
September 6th, 2009 at 11:34 amThe content of the speech will be available tomorrow on the Department of Education’s website. Furthermore, Obama is delivering this aforementioned speech in an auditorium (from what I read, at least). If Bush Sr. could talk to children about working hard, why can’t Obama?
September 6th, 2009 at 11:44 amStudents have the right to listen.
September 6th, 2009 at 11:47 amWhy is it that these *ssh*les ALWAYS let us know they don’t stand with the screeching idiots…
…conveniently days, even weeks AFTER the screeching starts?
I don’t believe them. Not for one minute. I don’t believe they want to be at arm’s-length from the crazies; I don’t believe they are WITH them, either. They’re just using them to keep in the whore media spotlight, like tools from the kitchen drawer.
September 6th, 2009 at 11:54 amCanny55, Bush Sr. also, quite conveniently, spoke to the schoolchildren A MONTH BEFORE Election Day, 1992. You don’t think he might have been…politicizing that speech, do you? That he was hoping those schoolchildren would urge their on-the-fence parents to vote for him?
Nah. A Republican would never do something as low as that. It’s beyond belief. Yeah. Right.
September 6th, 2009 at 11:57 amNewt is going to get in trouble for this with the radical right, any positive comments about Obama will be attacked.
September 6th, 2009 at 12:00 pmIf Obama read the telephone book for a speech, the Republicans would make ridiculous claims.
September 6th, 2009 at 12:08 pmstewartj, the commentary stems from one very significant detail:
Obama is a black man.
They have no idea how bigoted they are, deep inside. Any other President would have a complete pass on this. Not even the most ardent Clinton-hater would accuse him of trying to indoctrinate schoolchildren with this, except in a John Birch Society publication or a blog with a hundred hits.
When they shoot him, we’ll have a race war that’ll make the Civil War look like a PICNIC. I fear for the future, and for real reasons, not like the Obama Haters.
September 6th, 2009 at 12:11 pmindoctrinate – to force somebody to accept a particular belief or set of beliefs and not allow them to consider any others.
Thats exactly what President Obama is doing with his 30 minute stay in school speech and not at all what Faux News is doing 24/7
September 6th, 2009 at 12:16 pmSocialism….Birth certificates… Muslims…. Arghhh…
September 6th, 2009 at 12:19 pmFrom Reagan’s 1988 speech to schoolchildren:
. We also find that more countries than ever before are following America’s revolutionary economic message of free enterprise, low taxes, and open world trade. These days, whenever I see foreign leaders, they tell me about their plans for reducing taxes and other economic reforms that they’re using, copying what we have done here in our country. I wonder if they realize that this vision of economic freedom — the freedom to work, to create and produce, to own and use property without the interference of the state — was central to the American Revolution when the American colonists rebelled against a whole web of economic restrictions, taxes, and barriers to free trade. The message at the Boston Tea Party — have you studied yet in history about the Boston Tea Party, where, because of a tax, they went down and dumped the tea in the harbor? Well, that was America’s original tax revolt.
No indoctrination there … ;)
September 6th, 2009 at 12:23 pmThis outcry follows exactly the intent of the right-wing to keep the dumbing-down of the American public, and especially its most vulnerable members–the schoolchildren,at the forefront of public education. That’s the way all facist movements have indoctrinated and controlled populations down through the ages. God forbid children should be encouraged to learn and expand their minds, let alone take responsibility for their own actions. Obviously, accountability is a bad thing when you’re trying to subvert democracy, as the Rethuglicans have exhibited in the aftermath of the criminal Bush Administration these days. Reagan, Bush I & II, of course, were NEVER excoriated for speaking to schoolchildren, when Reagan and Bush I blatantly discussed and forwarded their political ideas in the addresses they gave to schoolchildren during their presidencies.
September 6th, 2009 at 12:26 pmCan’t be interrupting the home-schoolers from their daily dose of jeebus, teabags and racism.
September 6th, 2009 at 12:39 pmSo Obama wants kids to study hard and stay in school. I had no idea that there was an opposing point of view on this but maybe we should give conservatives lots and lots of time to present it. ;)
September 6th, 2009 at 12:40 pmMy 90 year old mother watches George Stephanopoulis on Sunday mornings. When visiting her this morning and this subject came to the table she turned it off. She stated she just couldn’t believe the treatment this president is getting. It made/makes her so sick she now refuses to watch it being sick. And they say old white people don’t support the president. I say phooey!
September 6th, 2009 at 12:49 pmThe idiots that keep their kids home will, however, let them watch ClusterFox nOoze propaganda all day long.
September 6th, 2009 at 12:55 pmEverybody should read reply #11 by Badger. This is exactly correct.
But more importantly, even though Reagan’s 1988 speech to school children was outrightly political and ideological, it didn’t INDOCTRINATE. It’s just words. I heard it in my classroom and yet I still don’t buy his tax cut b.s.
I’m glad these Repubs and wingnuts are showing their true crazy colors. Yet another thing to point to during elections.
September 6th, 2009 at 12:55 pm.
Q U E S T I O N:
HOW MUCH CREDIBILITY MUST ONE HAVE WHEN ONE WISHES AN ATTACK AGAINST THEIR OWN NATION?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5lmje_newt-gingrich-bush-should-allow-rem_news
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September 6th, 2009 at 1:05 pm.
Funny…
… In America the argument is about NOT letting children listen to the Highest Official tell them the virtues of a good education.
O.K.
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September 6th, 2009 at 1:07 pmSo, NOW we care what Gingrich or Alexander have to say.
September 6th, 2009 at 1:21 pmThis just makes it harder to denounce them the next time they say Obama and his policies are satanic.
From Raygun’s Indoctrination speech above:
“I wonder if they realize that this vision of economic freedom — the freedom to work, to create and produce…”
Except if you come to this country by your own sweat and labor looking for a better existance for you and your family, but didn’t go through one of the approved “gates.”
September 6th, 2009 at 1:30 pmIf you are an illegal immigrant, you do not get the splendiferousness that is America. You MUST pay at the gate.
Many parents are using this as a Civics lesson, teaching their children how to honor the office of President of the United States with pitchforks and torches.
See:
http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/09/04/obamas-dangerous-message-to-our-children/
September 6th, 2009 at 1:36 pmDoes anyone NOT think the bloated windbag isn’t running for President in 2012?
Gingrich is this generation’s Nixon. Every statement, every action is politically calculated. He will say or do anything that he thinks will garner him political capital and boost his chances to become the first wheezing, pontificating gasbag to be elected president in over a century (we’ve had some remarkably slender presidents over the past 100 something years)
September 6th, 2009 at 1:46 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
What are you going to do? Cry?
September 6th, 2009 at 2:05 pmWell? It won’t be Newt in 2012. He’s damaged goods to the Reichwing now.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pmTeach our kids right from wrong, Fred. Teach them why the Founding Fathers started this country and why we had a revolution against England.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:07 pmCan you imagine being afraid of everything like our stupid trolls? It looks like a godawful way to live from my perspective. And it’s a damn good way to screw up a kid.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:09 pmarco, comon, you’re just farts in the wind.
You going to sesede from the union? Like your bretheren who claimed to have 1 million signers on a petition but were only able to convene 200 people on the capital steps and that included photographers and others who wanted to see the spectacle of Un-American activity in our country.
sad that you think you matter any longer.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pmThey are easily terrified, pete. That much is clear.
It’s becoming the defining characteristic of the right wing.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:11 pmLeslieBurton says:
It made/makes her so sick she now refuses to watch it being sick. And they say old white people don’t support the president. I say phooey!
You have a point. My mother. 78, who did not like blacks is disgusted by all of this disrespect for Obama.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pmGingrich doesn’t want anyone to think he’s a racist. See, by supporting the racists, he’s leaving himself open to the label ‘racist’. Gingrich doesn’t want to openly endorse such activity–he would rather keep in ‘in the closet’ until he retires or whatever.
Face it folks, from what I hear from parents around this area of the south, they don’t want to have a ‘knee-grow’ tell their little crumb-snatchers anything.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:13 pmIt’s sad, ralph. I was taught that I should study things I don’t understand. The kids of the Reichwhiners are being taught to smash everything they can’t understand.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:14 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Welcome to the newest reality comedy show, The United States of America.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:26 pmRacism is part of it, gully foyle, but I think there’s a danger in assuming that’s at the heart of the opposition. It’s as much a fear of change and intellectualism as it is fear of the black guy.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pmarco, click your heels together and make a wish, that’s all you got. Your best hope is that your opponant fails and you intend to make sure that happens. Wow, how noble.
By the way, bush was at 28% and a proven failure. Obama is far from that so adjust your tin foil hat.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:29 pmI’m afraid that these freaks are as horrified by public education in general as they are afraid of the President. Heck! Wasn’t it just last week that we heard from a freakin’ teacher who “doesn’t want her school associated with evolution”?
No. We are dealing with a dangerously stupid group of people who barely function at a minimum threshold of human intelligence and perception. And profoundly stupid people, like these, are unreachable by rational means. It takes a slogan, easy to chant but lacking in any real semantic content, to even make an impression on these dolts.
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arco, you can continue to wail but I saw how the gop handled all of these issues. epic fail.
simple fact:
a democrat will do more for the American people by accident than a republican will do for them on purpose.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:47 pmkwsventures, what can I say? You’re an idiot but I already knew that.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:49 pmI think Republican hate education for the masses. An educated citizen will be able to see though lies. This is bad for Republicans who only want the elite educated and the rest miseducated. This is an attempt to justify Newt’s conservative curriculum that he is pushing down in Texas. When progressive complain about that, he will say “I supported the President’s address to school children, how can you critize my attempt to improve eduction.” It is a cheap political trick. The reason he is doing this in Texas is that Texas drives a big portion of the textbook market, even for other states.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:54 pm1. U.S. forces have ceased offensive patrols in Iraq. The first redeployment has taken place and an additional 8,000 over projections will be out by the end of the year. The President has honored his controversial campaign position to take the fight to the Taliban and, quietly, the Pakistani army is taking up the fight on their side of the boarder.
2.Bushco made a balanced budget a practical impossibility for the indefinite future and no one has ever claimed otherwise.
3. No one has predicted a net gain in jobs for the foreseeable future because of the deep recession.
4. There are four, stimulus funded, road projects within a few miles of my home. I think it’s safe to assume that some of those dollars are going to the accounts of the road crews.
5. Personally, gays in the military is a side issue that can wait for a number of other fires to be out out. Green jobs are being created every day. There are three health care bills that will be taken up, again, when the House goes back to work plus the debate exercise in the Senate.
6. There is always talk of a challenge in the first year of a Presidency and the GOP is not “energized”. They are still polling at historically low numbers and give every indication of a party that is dying before our eyes.
September 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pmNice Smackdown Pete. And all done without Namecalling.
Gotta love this site.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:22 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
arco, you are such a liar. Your own link betrays you.
It says that China leads and talks about what the US is also doing, for the first time I might add. bush sure didn’t do any of it.
You are a really sad and pathetic little troll.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:44 pmGlad to see panelists on Meet the Press getting visibly angry at the whole thing. Plus, it shows that the Republicans and their brownshirts have nothing positive to offer about anything, and will stop at nothing to deceive and destroy.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:51 pmMaybe the President should encourage Adult Education as well!
I reiterate: Students have the right to listen.
And add: These people are taking away the inalienable rights of American children, the future of our country.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:52 pmarco says:
For example:
General Electric is shuttering light bulb factories in Virginia, Kentucky and Ohio, putting 400 workers off the job. Why? Because the factories make the old-style incandescent bulbs, which are being outlawed by congressional decree.
The old bulbs will be replaced by the environmentally correct compact fluorescents bulbs. But they won’t be made in GE’s American factories.
The costly green bulbs are being made in China, where cheaper labor and less restrictive environmental regulations make them less expensive to produce.
This proves that American corporations are not patriotic because if they were, they would have found a way to make a better and cheaper bulb. But Bush made it easier to export our jobs. So much for the Republican mantra “America First.”
September 6th, 2009 at 3:53 pmNot opinions, stupid troll. Just common knowledge among informed citizens.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:54 pmI’ve been wondering, an obvious target is that Obama has melanin in his skin.
But I also wonder if a reason for a lot of the so-called “right” railing against this is that they can’t stand the idea that the other side exercises good “family values.”
If the “left” were to be associated with good, old-fashioned values, it would implode a lot of their claim to superiority.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:57 pmFunny you should mention the light bulbs though. One of the nightly news shows ran a story about people who are hoarding incandescent bulbs as some sort of “freedom protest”. I suspect that they are big fans of Crazy Shelly (InsaneR-Mn.).
BTW, the last batch of fluorescent bulbs I bought were made in Germany where the industry has been heavily subsidized and they have stricter environmental laws than we do. I guess that motivated people can find business plans that turn a profit pretty much anywhere.
September 6th, 2009 at 3:59 pmIf students were forbidden to see the speech, these students would find a way to sneak a peek out of curiosity. Sneaking around to see the forbidden would enhance the speech and imagine how ridiculous and bigoted parents and teachers who made the decision would appear.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:09 pm#51, I don’t think you have much knowledge in the subject matter that you are commenting on. Liberals are typically uniformed or misinformed. I think you’re probably a little of both. Sometimes, liberals go wrong with thinking that opinions are facts. Easy to do if you don’t have a solid educational background.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:17 pmI don’t comment on subjects I haven’t studied, stupid troll. Strike one.
I’m not a “liberal”, a “progressive” or even a Democrat. Strike two.
I have a clear understanding of the difference between facts and opinions. Strike three.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:24 pm#52 Maplestreet -
I would put money on the fact the crazies are hoping a hype over skin color would appeal to the bigoted and stir up outrage. But secretly what they are really afraid of is Obama does give great motivational speeches…. a real plus for the democratic party and a further decline for the GNOP.
If Obama gave boring speeches, if he had not motivated the young during election ‘08, I doubt if we would be seeing this insanity.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:27 pmarco says:
#51, I don’t think you have much knowledge in the subject matter that you are commenting on. Liberals are typically uniformed or misinformed. I think you’re probably a little of both. Sometimes, liberals go wrong with thinking that opinions are facts. Easy to do if you don’t have a solid educational background.
I have observed that many conservatives being given time on tv and radio suffer from projection, the tendency to ascribe to others those things you hate about yourself. Your post is a perfect example of projection, as you are describing yourself more than any of us.
September 6th, 2009 at 4:39 pmIs it not odd, Wayne, how people who are afraid of “death panels” and the POTUS addressing children have the gall to accuse others of behaving irrationally?
September 6th, 2009 at 4:55 pmarco says:
Liberals are typically uniformed or misinformed. I think you’re probably a little of both. Sometimes, liberals go wrong with thinking that opinions are facts. Easy to do if you don’t have a solid educational background.
When logic and facts are not on your side, then insult and call your opponents names. It is not a good tactic and reveals the bankruptcy of your position.
September 6th, 2009 at 5:05 pmForget it. We all know Newt is a chameleon, and a chameleon is a reptile. it’s over Newt.
September 6th, 2009 at 5:24 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Easy to do if you don’t have a solid educational background.
September 6th, 2009 at 5:50 pm–
I’d point out the correlation between level of education and political ideology but arco would be too afraid to discuss it anyway…
This looks promising…
September 6th, 2009 at 6:04 pmproblem is that you don’t have facts/science on your side of most of the issues.
September 6th, 2009 at 6:06 pm—
like stem cells, medicinal marijuana,environmental chemistry, and and abortion versus the capacity of a man to live in a cetacean stomach or the likelihood of a talking snake…
dbadass, I wonder what issues our friend Atlantic Richfield Oil Company (arco to his friends) has in mind when he says, “The problem is that you don’t have facts/science on your side of most of the issues.”
Do you suppose he’s talking about death panels?
The President’s Kenyan birth?
Fascism and socialism being the same thing?
Evolution?
Global warming?
It’s really not fair to our right-wing friends, what with reality having a liberal bias and all…
September 6th, 2009 at 6:16 pmIt’s also curious that our righteous friend suggests that liberals “don’t have a solid educational background”, yet conservatives constantly decry the liberal bent of the college-educated.
Very strange.
September 6th, 2009 at 6:18 pmNice to see you my friend…
September 6th, 2009 at 6:19 pmThe part I like the most is the part about not having science not being on my side…
Well you know what I mean. I multitask poorly.
September 6th, 2009 at 6:19 pmThey just don’t fare well against those who are more than the sum of their fears, dbadass.
September 6th, 2009 at 6:34 pmHeh! I just made up a new “old saying”
The GOP has become a parody of itself which is defined by the sum of their fears.
September 6th, 2009 at 6:36 pmOops! Syntax error. Lets try this again.
The GOoPers have become parodies of themselves who are defined by the sum of their fears.
September 6th, 2009 at 6:37 pmOT
September 6th, 2009 at 6:50 pmpete;
warblers and shore birds are on the move. Raptors are just starting. Fall migration is my favorite time of year. Well other than Spring migration…
Wiz says:
I think Republican hate education for the masses. An educated citizen will be able to see though lies….
From what I have been seeing in the birther and deather groups I wonder if they even have a middle school education.
Liberals have the highest education level of any typology group 49% are college graduates and 26% have some postgraduate education.
September 6th, 2009 at 7:18 pmCupping my bright white children in my arms, I scream, “GET AWAY YOU DARK OBJECT, STEP AWAY FROM MY CHILDREN!”
USPS Guy (BLACK): I’m only here to deliver the mail.
September 6th, 2009 at 7:25 pmwhite GNOP want their country back as they know it – being white privilege. Their battle is uphill, impossible, they know it and all the piggish behaviors are merely making fools of them.
September 6th, 2009 at 7:49 pmThat’s an interesting article you linked to, had enough, but WTF is a “Pro-government conservative”?
That must be a demographic of about nine people. Or else it includes all of the Republican professional politicians who have never worked a day in their lives in the private sector.
September 6th, 2009 at 7:54 pmLink…
As far as post-graduate degrees, Republican men are more likely than Democratic men to have a masters or PhD, but Democratic women are more likely than Republican women. Overall, the percentages of post-graduate degrees between the parties is similar.
September 6th, 2009 at 8:08 pmGingrich’s PhD enabled him to teach history to multiple families, all his own. When he was finished with one class, he told them child support and alimony had no place in history and packed their bags and dumped them on the church …
September 6th, 2009 at 8:15 pmarco, I hope we destroy this country before a black man cleans up our mess. Obama. Must. Fail.
September 6th, 2009 at 8:17 pmforget stats, I just wanna compare my ed to arco’s. What do you say arco? Wasn’t Rove who acknowledged the link between level of ed and political outlook?
September 6th, 2009 at 8:20 pmHow many republicans major in business and go on to a master’s in same field? Who gives a shit – I’m a republican, cover-up is good. The larger picture is to ignore real education, which goes on in Arts & Sciences, and lump technical in with general.
September 6th, 2009 at 8:24 pmWait… didn’t you say that
“liberals go wrong with thinking that opinions are facts. Easy to do if you don’t have a solid educational background.”
So your link effectively argues against your stated OPINION.
Gee… did you think it was a FACT? Sure sounded like you did.
By the by, you may find the 2008 exit polling results enlightening. Pay particular attention to “Vote by Education”.
September 6th, 2009 at 9:00 pmdbadass, you’re right. Rove has been quoted as saying,
As people do better, they start voting like Republicans — unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing.
September 6th, 2009 at 9:05 pmSean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Karl Rove–some of the biggest mouthpieces for the G(reedy)O(ld)P(erverts)–are all college drop-outs or flunk-outs. So much for the superior education of conservatives!
September 6th, 2009 at 10:07 pmLora, I bet most wingnuts don’t even know that Hannity turned to the ACLU when he got canned from his first radio gig in Santa Barbara.
From wikipedia:
Hannity’s weekly show on KCSB was canceled after less than a year by station managers upset with his remarks about gays and lesbians. This was after two shows featuring the book The AIDS Coverup: The Real and Alarming Facts about AIDS by Gene Antonio; among other remarks, Hannity told a lesbian caller “I feel sorry for your child”.[7] The station later reversed its decision to dismiss Hannity due in part to a campaign conducted by the Santa Barbara Chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union.
September 6th, 2009 at 10:15 pmTo kwsventures,
You must a rather lonely person, begging for attention on a progressive site that you don’t approve of. Probably nobody here cares what you do with your TV remote or radio. Wouldn’t you be better off trying to make friends on redstate or Jeff Gannons’s blog? BTW, President Obama is not a cult figure.
kwsventures says:
September 7th, 2009 at 12:31 amIt is Obama 24/7. The cult figure. I don’t care anymore. Let him speak. I have heard it all already and the guy has only been in office 8 months or so. Starting tomorrow, I will see if I can avoid Obama. Everytime his name or voice or face appears or some media nut starts talking about him, I will be tuning out. Quick, hit the TV remote, he is back. Quick, turn the radio station channel. It should be interesting. Let’s see how much dodging I have to do to avoid the guy. Let’s make a game of it
I don’t think that arco read the study that found only 6% of scientists, including the 34% who call themselves “conservative”, call themselves Republicans. So, basically, only 6% of the smartest people on earth think the GOP represents them.
Although I suppose it’s possible he read it and failed to understand the significance.
September 7th, 2009 at 12:53 amarco says:
Self-identified Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats to have 4-year college degrees.
As far as post-graduate degrees, Republican men are more likely than Democratic men to have a masters or PhD, but Democratic women are more likely than Republican women. Overall, the percentages of post-graduate degrees between the parties is similar.
Are you talking about people who earned their degrees or Republicans like Bush whose family bought his Harvard degree?
September 7th, 2009 at 12:55 am89. pags2 says: arco says:
Self-identified Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats to have 4-year college degrees.
As far as post-graduate degrees, Republican men are more likely than Democratic men to have a masters or PhD, but Democratic women are more likely than Republican women. Overall, the percentages of post-graduate degrees between the parties is similar.
Are you talking about people who earned their degrees or Republicans like Bush whose family bought his Harvard degree?
September 7th, 2009 at 12:55 am
Arco is talking about people like Michele Bachmann who got her J.D. from Oral Roberts U.
September 7th, 2009 at 1:22 amFrom the update; “MSNBC’s John Harwood comments on the right-wing hysteria: “I’ve been watching politics for a long time and this is, this one is really over the top. What it shows you is there are a lot of cynical people who try to fan controversy and let’s face it, in a country of three hundred million people there are a lot of stupid people too.”"
Oh geez, you can’t say that kind of shit, Harwood. You’re insulting all those stupid people and throwing red meat in front of the cynics who, in fanning controversy, will be more than happy to point out to the stupid people that they’ve just been called stupid. And around and around it goes; there’s nothing that peeves a bunch of stupid ‘necks and other idiots more than being condescended to by some stupid bastard in a suit.
September 7th, 2009 at 1:27 amThe funniest part about this is if Obama didn’t plan to give a speech to the kids, republicans would be screaming why isn’t the president giving a speech to the kids, like Bush and Reagan did?
September 7th, 2009 at 2:58 amAll these jerks (including the parent jerkjs who feel the same) are likely doing this for one of these reasons:
-they are racist & hate Obama
-they are so cold-bloodedly Republican that they care nothing about their country
-they are terrified that their children will like Obama (apparently a terrible thing in their small, demented minds)
Telling kids to study, do well, stay in school, do homework, & succeed is “indoctrination”?? That makes every parent an indoctrinator (well, except for those who really don’t care about kids)
September 7th, 2009 at 11:03 amThe right-wing has effectively taken control over our 4th branch of government, the “free” press.
Until the Fairness Doctrine is re-instated, were headed for disaster.
September 7th, 2009 at 11:49 amarco says:
Obama is not a socialist you brainwashed moron. YOU however are a very stupid sheeple
September 7th, 2009 at 12:48 pmEveryone needs to simmer down. The temperature of the political discourse in this country is out of control. We should take a cue from Laura Bush.
http://axisofreason.com/2009/09/08/in-praise-of-laura-bush/
September 8th, 2009 at 1:46 amI want to be relieved at Newt’s magnamimous gesture regarding Obama’s education address but I have this nagging concern that there is some arcane agenda.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:04 amI was cruising Freep…Quite amusing the comments on the text of Obama’s speech to the schoolkids. They are having great difficulties finding anything ominous in it so they are making it up as they go along. Sadly these people vote and pass for adults in this country.
September 8th, 2009 at 11:20 amAren’t these the same people who don’t think obama was born here in the u.s.? Sheesh, what a bunch of misguided losers…
September 9th, 2009 at 10:46 pmSorry I meant conservative neo-cons, not necessarily gingrich and alexander (though i wouldn’t be suprised if gingrich and alexander were “birthers” as well).
September 9th, 2009 at 10:48 pmThank you for your sharing.!
September 11th, 2009 at 2:36 pm