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Podesta: ‘Van Has Set A Standard That Beck Would Never Impose Upon Himself’

vanpodesta2John Podesta, the President and CEO of the Center for American Progress Action Fund, released this statement following the resignation of Van Jones:

Van Jones is an exceptional and inspired leader who has fought to bring economic and environmental justice to communities across our country.

He has chosen to resign because he believed he was serving as a distraction to the president’s agenda. I respect that decision.

Van was working to build a common ground agenda for all Americans, and I am confident he will continue that work. Unfortunately, his critics on the right could find no common ground with him.

Clearly, Van was the subject of a right-wing smear campaign shrouded in hypocrisy. Van’s chief tormentor Glenn Beck, who spent weeks engaged in vicious name-calling, retains his perch at Fox News after calling the president a racist who has “a deep-seated hatred for white people.” Van has set a standard that Beck would never impose upon himself.

I look forward to working with Van to move our country towards a clean energy economy that empowers and lifts up all Americans.

Update Glenn Beck released a statement, pledging to go after "other radicals in the administration":

The American people stood up and demanded answers. Instead of providing them, the Administration had Jones resign under cover of darkness. I continue to be amazed by the power of everyday Americans to initiate change in our government through honest questioning, and judging by the other radicals in the administration, I expect that questioning to continue for the foreseeable future.

David Weigel writes that Cass Sunstein is likely to be Beck's next target.


199 Responses to “Podesta: ‘Van Has Set A Standard That Beck Would Never Impose Upon Himself’”

  1. spyder says:

    The left, the real progressive left, needs to go after those whose actual speech (texts in this regard) have demonstrated their incapacity to ever hold positions of public power in this country: Jay Bybee, John Yoo, Bob McDonnell (for starters). By pretending to be less than angry, we leave the right wing noise machine feeling confident in destroying others who have visions to improve this nation. Setting “standard(s)” is useless unless they are supported by real action and accountability.


  2. DallasNE says:

    Interesting how Jones’ record right after graduating from college is a barrier to advancement some 16-18 years later but Bush’s record right after graduation from college is simply overlooked. We clearly have a double standard issue in this country that impedes it from true greatness. Yes, racism is rearing it ugly head all over the place.


  3. Mark @ News Corpse says:

    We can still win this. Holding Beck to his own standards isn’t such a bad idea. And if we do it, Van Jones, and all of us, will prevail in the end. This could turn into our victory.

    Other things Beck has said:

    …agreed that America’s only hope is for Bin Laden to blow us up.
    …fantasized about choking Michael Moore to death.
    …advocated beating Rep. Charles Rangel with a shovel.
    …declared that he hated the families of 9/11 survivors.
    …declared that he hated Katrina victims, whom he called scumbags.
    …incited people to commit tax evasion.

    Let’s get this out and let the people decide. Hold Beck and Fox News and Rupert Murdoch accountable.


  4. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    It is important to inhibit Obama’s ability to govern. Keep all these competent nominees buried in a random Senate committees, like those labor dept. nominees, and retain the Bush magic throughout government. When we get through with Obama’s government, to include routing the competent out of their posts, Obama will leave office with a deep seated hatred for white people alright. Government doesn’t work because we say so, and therefore it must not work. La la la la la I can’t hear you.


  5. Death Counselor says:

    Van Jones is a Bodhitsattva.

    One who puts the enlightenment of others before his own.


  6. Wannabekool says:

    Boycott Beck. Boycott Fox. Boycott offices with Fox TV.


  7. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Hey liberals, when Fox fires Beck because advertisers pull business from their network altogether, he should sit in his chair to annoy you, pay his producers out of pocket and force himself on the air in the same slot. I love me a good television coup. He should erect barriers to prevent Fox security from escorting him out. Kinda like his own Panic Room.


  8. Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre says:

    Glenn Beck is obviously off his rocker.

    O/T: the only “Van Jones” that comes to mind was Jack Benny’s valet, Eddie Anderson, in the movie Buck Benny Rides Again, in which he answered to “Rochester Van Jones.”


  9. arco says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  10. Daniels says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  11. Reggie says:


    Congress needs to get some balls and tell Obama NO MORE CZARS

    Technically speaking, Van Jones was not a Czar, that was just a talking point from the right wing astro-turf spin machine,


  12. twizzle says:

    You’re right, arco. Down with Czars. Up with Communism!


  13. dbadass says:

    Hi arco…
    So about that ed thing… Wanna talk?
    Quiz which pres installed the first tsar, czar, tzar…?


  14. jjm says:

    To Arco: You think Beck is ‘normal’? You think Dick Cheney and his superexaggerated view of presidential and vice presidential power is ‘normal’ and NOT radical?

    What is your ‘normal’?

    Do you even know how many ‘czars’ Bush had?


  15. Death Counselor says:

  16. dbadass says:

    Republicans will be elected to majorities in both the house and senate, and the Democrats who have no spine to stand up to the Right-Wing Prvada Machine will be gone.

    —-
    The Miss Chloe’s of the world amuse me…


  17. Death Counselor says:

    What the GOP REALLY means … says:
    Government doesn’t work because we say so, and therefore it must not work. La la la la la I can’t hear you.

    Oh mean like this Beotch that was on C-Span with Randi Rhodes back in ‘05 or ‘06. It was a classic interview.

    http://tinyurl.com/laj7rj


  18. Outlaw284 says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  19. Reggie says:

    Do you even know how many ‘czars’ Bush had?

    Arco won’t be able to answer your question jjm, it wasn’t included in the talking points he received from Troll Central.


  20. dbadass says:

    Hi Outlaw284
    I have been thinking about this whole thing and have hypothesized that you are just on the outs with your spouse’s parents or perhaps your kid’s partner despises you…


  21. Outlaw284 says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  22. GG says:

    Look I am the only one who will go out on the limb for this.
    Glenn Beck calls Obama a racist who hates white culture.
    Color of Change calls him on it, successfully.
    Color of Change was founded by Van Jones, a black guy, but is not longer affiliated with it.
    Glenn Beck plays the victim all over Fox News, and blames not himself, but Van Jones.
    Van Jones resigns.
    Glenn Beck is a racist.
    Oh by the way I am a white woman who can call it as I see it!!


  23. Reggie says:

    Outlaw284 says:

    Unlike what ever it was that got you arrested and sent to prison, the last time I checked it was not illegal to hold some communist beliefs.

    Wake up, Joe McCarthy and the witch trials ended more than half a century ago.


  24. dbadass says:

    Outlaw284
    Might I ask which contemporary POTUS you enjoy most and why?


  25. Death Counselor says:

    And from the same thread linked above:
    SP Biloxi says:

    Beck: “Never before have there been so many executive posts that were not confirmed by Congress and who answered only to the president.”

    Let’s review some of the czar titles [which were wasteful titles] that the Sith Administration created:

    a. For information technology infrastructure, Bush named a cybersecurity czar.

    b. For Beck: “Never before have there been so many executive posts that were not confirmed by Congress and who answered only to the president.”

    Let’s review some of the czar titles that the Sith Administration created:

    a. For information technology infrastructure, Bush named a cybersecurity czar.

    b. Beck: “Never before have there been so many executive posts that were not confirmed by Congress and who answered only to the president.”

    Let’s review some of the czar titles that the Sith Administration created:

    a. For information technology infrastructure, Bush named a cybersecurity czar.

    b. For corporate benefactors led to the creation of a “regulatory czar” at the Office of Management and Budget.

    c. “AIDS Czar” was created. Bush appointed Randall Tobias who later resigned becuase he was client of the DC Madam.

    d. For struggling manufacturing industries, Bush appointed a “manufacturing czar.”

    e. To correct the failed national security intelligence Bush created an “intelligence czar” position.

    f. “Bird-flu czar” created for the bird flu epidemic.

    g. In handling of the response to Hurricane Katrina, there was a “Katrina czar.”

    Beck wouldn’t know the definition of a “czar” if it bit him in the butt. I bet if Obama created a media czar position that would oversee all the media coverages of the White House, Beck and Fox News would go through hoops to apply for that job in a heart beat.


  26. arco says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  27. Reggie says:

    arco:

    Van Jones’ “crime” was that the organization he founded (Color of Change) cost Glen Beck and the Antichrist Rupert Murdock sponsors.

    If he was so controversial why did G W Bush sign into law the Green Jobs Act that Van Jones helped write?

    If he was so controversial why did he not attract any attention until the sponsors started to leave Beck’s show?

    This whole controversy was manufactured by the astro-turfers and supported by racists like you.


  28. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    Sorry O.T. but…
    … from last weeks under reported US Freedumb Agenda success file.

    Tribal Leaders Say Karzai’s Team Forged 23,900 Votes
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/02/world/asia/02fraud.html?em
    Mr. Abdullah flew to the southern city of Kandahar to receive the tribe’s endorsement. The leaders of the tribe, who live in a district called Shorabak, prepared to deliver a local landslide.

    But it never happened, the tribal leaders said.

    Instead, aides to Mr. Karzai’s brother Ahmed Wali — the leader of the Kandahar provincial council and the most powerful man in southern Afghanistan — detained the governor of Shorabak, Delaga Bariz, and shut down all of the district’s 45 polling sites on election day. The ballot boxes were taken to Shorabak’s district headquarters, where, Mr. Bariz and other tribal leaders said, local police officers stuffed them with thousands of ballots.

    At the end of the day, 23,900 ballots were shipped to Kabul, Mr. Bariz said, with every one marked for President Karzai.

    “Not a single person in Shorabak District cast a ballot — not a single person,” Mr. Bariz said in an interview here in the capital, where he and a group of tribal elders came to file a complaint. “Mr. Karzai’s people stuffed all the ballot boxes.”
    (continued)

    How’s that for setting standards?
    Say, like Florida or Ohio?

    .


  29. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    Doh, sorry the bold was supposed to be itallix :/


  30. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Why does the world relevant not count to arco?

    .


  31. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Reggie, you’re trying to talk sense to arco?

    You’re more optimistic than I, my friend. arco faced with good sense arguments seems like a troll version of Silly Putty placed on funny pages — soaks up the words and pictures, but gets it reversed and all distorted.

    Strange that the right-wing talking points, it gets right. Maybe because they’re all distorted and backwards to begin with.


  32. Daniels says:

    O the glory days when fixed noise wanted czars.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/10/wanted-car-car-revive-auto-industry/

    Amazing how much a year can change. But, we all know the spineless Democrats will cower in the face of the Fixed Noise Machine.


  33. Reggie says:

    ralph the wonder llama says:

    I am just using arco to keep my mallet wielding skills sharp on the outside chance that someday there will be an opportunity to play whack-a-troll with a competent adversary.


  34. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Dear arco,
    Yet you stood silent during Bush II 36 Czars…
    … 20 of which were NOT confirmed.

    Q U I C K:
    What’s a single word that describes someone who holds lofty expectations from some, but not his own?

    I know some people would call it HYPOCRISY…
    … but I call it arco. Go look it up.

    .


  35. katy says:

    thank you, john podesta.

    just from the googlenews headlines, the frighties are gonna be gloating big time…

    i really hate that…


  36. House of Roberts says:

    So, now that Van Jones has resigned, are all those advertisers coming back to Beck’s show?


  37. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Dear Daniels #10,
    Sure. You go with that. Work it. Work it good. Just like Sarah did. Keep hatin’ America.

    If anything, the “OLD” Dems will be replaced by “NEW” Dems…
    … Dems who WILL get the job done!

    p.s.
    And a few of the “OLD” G(no)P will be replaced by “NEW” Dems, too.

    .


  38. katy says:

    i’ve been at the previous jones thread, talking to myself it seems…


  39. Zooey says:

    Well said, Mr Podesta.

    In resigning at this time, Mr Jones has more integrity than every rightwing pundit and any Republican in government today.


  40. USpace says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  41. Outlaw284 says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  42. Xisithrus says:

    Arco, you remember how many people put in office thru recess appointments?

    We know thats not the issue, the gop would be doing the same thing if it was Clinton or Gore no matter the issue….screaming like David Vitter getting his diapered rear end spanked by a hooker.


  43. Xisithrus says:

    Obama should double down on recess appointments after first talking about the whining — beforehand.


  44. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Dear OutHouse284,

    R E M E M B E R:
    Your lovely princess slept WITH a separatist. And then married him.

    ONLY LATER did he quit the insurrection movement leaving just Princess to do the invocation and State address’ up to 2009.

    She was good enough for Second in Command…
    … Why all the bloviating?

    .


  45. Reggie says:

    Strange that the right-wing talking points, it gets right. Maybe because they’re all distorted and backwards to begin with.

    Ralph, maybe they give him the talking points backwards because they know the silly putty troll will end up reversing them.

    btw: I just received a tip that there is a little known blog that will be posting a thread soon that is going to attract a lot of our old adversaries from Troll Central. link


  46. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    Oops, I meant through 2008.


  47. Xisithrus says:

    A recess appointment occurs when the President of the United States fills a vacant federal position, of a sufficiently senior level that the nomination must be confirmed by the Senate, while the Senate is in recess. To be confirmed, the appointment must be approved by the Senate by the end of the next session of Congress

    President George W. Bush appointed two judges during Senate recesses, William Pryor and Charles Pickering to U.S. courts of appeals after their nominations were filibustered by Senate Democrats. Judge Pickering, who Bush appointed to the Fifth Circuit, withdrew his name from consideration for renomination and retired when his recess appointment expired. Judge Pryor was subsequently confirmed by the Senate for a lifetime appointment to the Eleventh Circuit. In his first six years in office, Bush made 167 recess appointments.

    I dont want to hear your whining when I didnt hear it back then Outlaw.


  48. arco says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  49. Zooey says:

    “follow”

    The definitive word that describes arco.


  50. Reggie says:


    Make sure you follow!

    Glen Beck, the little man who puts the twit into twitter.


  51. Xisithrus says:

    Beck is boring…like a heavily sedated version of Bachmann or Palin

    S l i t y o u r w r i s t s y o u b e t c h a


  52. bradshaw88 says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  53. Outlaw284 says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  54. had enough says:

    The decision followed an uproar over a petition Jones signed in 2004 calling for an investigation into whether government officials deliberately allowed the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks to occur.

    What is wrong with an investigation?

    nyccan.org may pull off a REAL investigation as they are working to get this on the ballot for Nov..

    nyccan.org:

    The New York City Coalition for Accountability Now has come together to lead a disciplined and patriotic search for answers about September 11th toward one tangible goal: the creation of an independent and impartial subpoena powered investigation into the September 11th attacks on our great nation.

    they are at this point:

    If NYC CAN wins in court, the submission of 15,000 more valid signatures will guarantee the referendum’s placement on the ballot.

    Legal proceedings are expected to last through the month of September, by which time a favorable determination from the Court is needed in order for the referendum to be placed on this November’s ballot.


  55. RealityCheck says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  56. Reggie says:


    Bye Bye Van

    Bye bye 50 sponsors of Glenn Beck’s comedy program.


  57. DutchHenry says:

    Yeah! Mr.Podesta but you & the WH showed to intestinal fortitude,none of you stood up in support of Van.Nice try after throwing him under the bus.


  58. Zooey says:

    The trolls are so happy with so very little.


  59. Xisithrus says:

    arco says: Make sure you follow!

    Following Beck would be like following behind a semi-truck hauling 30 head of cattle crap thru 50 miles, in the desert, of one way construction limited to 20 mph in 120 degree heat.


  60. Xisithrus says:

    The trolls are so happy with so very little.

    The dried brain cells make a pleasant rattling noise as they strike one another inside their bobbing microcephalic skulls as they lust, pantingly, over blimpblop posters.


  61. Xisithrus says:

    RealityCheck says:

    I had never heard of Van Jones until recently and this doesnt really change anything from my POV


  62. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Zooey says:
    The trolls are so happy with so very little.

    \They have to be, Zoo.

    They have to be.


  63. katy says:

    OT…
    Nelson, Klobuchar Mull the ‘Trigger’ Option on cnn’s ‘State of the … Washington Post

    no! not klobuchar too!?

    what gives? why did she change her mind? or did she?


  64. Xisithrus says:

    Xisithrus
    The problem is that the ones that are being complained about the most are the ones that aren’t going through ANY SENATE approval. Those are the ones that people are complaining about. Or are you to thick to figure that out/blockquote>

    Yes, no president ever has ever done recess appointments to get around senate approval. And no, im not thick but a trim build, thanks for asking.

    Since you apparently know about Van Jones position, what was its title, exactly, and when was the position created and by who.


  65. had enough says:

    #52 bradshaw88,

    even your media states:

    Obama did not order Van Jones’ resignation, adviser says

    get your facts straight.


  66. Outlaw284 says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  67. Zooey says:

    had enough says:

    get your facts straight.
    September 6th, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    You can’t be serious. :-D


  68. had enough says:

    again:
    Obama did not order Van Jones’ resignation, adviser says

    if this does not work it’s the first link in post #54.


  69. P.D. says:

    Glenn Beck going after radicals? That’s rich. And what is Beck’s definition of a radical? Beck is a total loon.


  70. P.D. says:

    OutLaw, I was wondering when you would show up and spread your bile.


  71. had enough says:


    get your facts straight.
    September 6th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
    ————————–
    You can’t be serious. :-D

    too funny


  72. Reggie says:


    Outlaw284 says:
    You don’t even know about your own Green Jobs Czar.

    Outlaw, didn’t they teach you how to read in prison? What part of my comment 11 didn’t you understand?

    Van Jones was not a green jobs czar, that is a talking point generated by the right wing astro-turf spin machine.

    Pay attention and you may learn something!


  73. Xisithrus says:

    Outlaw284 says: You don’t even know about your own Green Jobs Czar.

    No, but I know about the Bush appointed CEQ [Council on Environmental Quality] guy.

    Prior to working for the Bush Administration, Cooney was a lawyer and lobbyist for the American Petroleum Institute (API), an industry group representing the American petroleum industry[1]

    [edit] Bush administration

    Cooney joined the George W. Bush administration when he was appointed chief of staff of the Council on Environmental Quality. Cooney, who received criticism for having a nonscientific background as leader of an environmental policy body[citation needed], resigned in 2005, shortly after it was reported that he had altered government climate reports to downplay scientific consensus about climate change.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Cooney

    What a terrible Bush appointment. A Czar for big oil


  74. Outlaw284 says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  75. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    sorry katy,
    I have a great reply to an above statement you made about #63.

    #72(on my comp) “comment awaiting moderation” is good /snark

    Sorry Reggie,
    you’re actually #73. :?


  76. Skyler says:

    #2, DallasNE,

    My apologies. I wanted to vote you up, but hit the down link instead. That’s what happens when one reads without their Ted Kennedy’s. Can’t see crap. Just add one to your up count, mkay.


  77. katy says:

    Jones described his position as “the green-jobs handyman. I’m there to serve. I’m there to help as a leader in the field of green jobs, which is a new field. I’m happy to come and serve and be helpful, but there’s no such thing as a green-jobs ‘czar.’”[33]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Jones


  78. Xisithrus says:

    You admit you never heard about him until just recently and then want someone to tell you what his title was. Wow talk about uninformed.

    I did. You rather me lie and make up stuff?

    I did some reading. Van Jones was a special advisor [CEQ] and Bush appointed people to the CEQ as well. It seems to be SOP to appoint people to the CEQ [council on evironmental quality]

    I dont know why Van Jones let the media stoopid get to him, it was just prove a negative BS from what I heard and wasnt a resigning type incident. And why hasnt diaper man resigned? Or Sanderson? Or Craig?


  79. Reggie says:

    Outlaw:

    According to his profile at Wikipedia, Van Jones position was that of an adviser, that means he was not a Czar.

    Van Jones is an environmental advocate, civil rights activist, attorney and author,who served for several months in 2009 as Special Adviser for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation at the White House Council on Environmental Quality


  80. Xisithrus says:

    Guess Van Jones was wrong when he said that he was going to produce green jobs then.

    I bet if someone pulls up the actual text, its not saying what your are claiming it is.

    Besides the guy resigned, the point is now fairly moot what he said when…. and your going on about it still. Take a chill pill Outlaw.


  81. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    #79,
    … Because they’re too busy blowin’ Craig?


  82. cali says:

    Glenn Beck released a statement, pledging to go after “other radicals in the administration”:

    Keith Olbermann
    This becomes necessary after this in order to prove various cliches about goose and gander, and to remind everybody to walk softly and carry a big popsicle, and most particularly to save this nation from the Oligarhy of The Stupid.

    Send Me Everything You Can Find About Glenn Beck
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/6/777880/-Send-Me-Everything-You-Can-Find-About-Glenn-Beck


  83. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Van Jones probably created more jobs than Bush did in eight years.


  84. UCSBKitty says:

    arco says:
    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.

    Van Jones is a radical. Jones, along with 33 other czars, have been put into positions of extraordinary power without congressional votes, and without being elected by the American people.

    Congress needs to get some balls and tell Obama NO MORE CZARS and demand that appointments are vetted and approved by government checks and balances.

    YOU Forgot the part about how he called the Republicans a-holes, therefore making HIM a hater and a RACIST…/ROLLS eyes


  85. UCSBKitty says:

    and of course nothing from arco about Bush’s czars, but IOKIYAR, EH?


  86. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    We choose to ignore the fact that Bush was adding czars by the hour, namely his trumped-up war czar.


  87. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    arco, are you conservative enough?


  88. Xisithrus says:

    Glenn Beck released a statement, pledging to go after “other radicals in the administration”:

    Another culture warrior. Great the quixotic twins Falafel Bill and Rodeo Clown are off to La Mancha


  89. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    We prefer to call ourselves vulture warriors.


  90. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    X,
    You are mighty /snarky tonight…
    … And keeping me in stitches.


  91. rsalier says:

    Glenn “scumbag” Beck should be investigated for sedition. He is inciting the over throw of the government. This is treasonous. He should be fired and removed from public annoyance.


  92. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Jeremy Scahill: Rep. Mike Pence, Who Led Witch Hunt Against Van Jones, Took $1000s From Extremist Erik Prince
    By Nicole Belle Sunday Sep 06, 2009 6:00pm
    http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/jeremy-scahill-rep-mike-pence-who-led

    .


  93. bellarose says:

    We have a US Congresswoman asking her followers to slit their wrists, a conservative pastor in Arizona praying for Obama to die, gunslingers at teaparties, more violence on our streets and on TV than any other nation, folks with no health care dying needlessly and the conservatives are feigning outrage over Obama talking to schoolchildren! I don’t listen to Fox news, but Beck’s every burp is beamed across the airways in a millisecond, so his insanity is in your face 24/7. He is right about Jones, but some in his own party are seriously morally challanged also. Beck knows exactly what he’s doing, stirring a very dangerous brew and the outcome may be tragic. I would rather be a looney lefty, bleeding heart tree hugging liberal, a “socialist”, and whatever other name Beck can come up with than a holier than thou, selfrightous, whining victim, paranoid, emotionally challanged millionare like Beck anyday.


  94. Xisithrus says:

    X,
    You are mighty /snarky tonight…

    Yeh, I admit, I have been kinda cynicaland snarky…I think its because of the completely assinine things pundits pscyhophants are parakeeting from their fecal perches


  95. Siun says:

    How nice to see all the regret after the fact. Will Podesta and CAP call for Van Jones reinstatement?


  96. PensiveGadfly says:

    Mark at News Corpse:

    Where are the sites for those quotes? I used to be amused by Beck, but now I see him as dangerous (not to mention moronically idiotic–yes, I know that’s redundant). I want everyone to know what Beck said, and I want the proof at my fingertips.


  97. Xisithrus says:

    We prefer to call ourselves vulture warriors.

    God bless the vulture that descends on the massive carcass of BlimpBlob and dies of a drug overdose.


  98. Outlaw284 says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  99. Reggie says:

    Outlaw, I am going to ask you to do something that you may find very painful, please think.

    How can an adviser be a Czar?


  100. ralph the wonder llama says:

    So Outhouse has come down firmly on the side of the fence that says a Special Advisor to the President is the same thing as a “czar”.

    Now that we’ve got that cleared up, we can talk about the role of a Special Advisor, and we can forget all this silly “czar” nonsense. Right?


  101. Xisithrus says:

    He wasnt a special advisor to Obama, SpoutFlaw, he was an advisor to the CEQ and was only require to report once a year to the president.


  102. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Outlaw, I believe the same things you do. Bush never had a czar. I repeat: Bush never had a czar. la la la lefties, I can’t hear you!


  103. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Spook me, Outlaw. I want to be scared. Tell me: what powers do the Obami czars have?


  104. gummble-bee-itch says:

    ralph the wonder llama says:
    So Outhouse has come down firmly on the side of the fence that says a Special Advisor to the President is the same thing as a “czar”.

    Now that we’ve got that cleared up, we can talk about the role of a Special Advisor, and we can forget all this silly “czar” nonsense. Right?

    But “czar” is so scary, Ralph. It’s all furrin’ and stuff. Heckadoodle, it’s Russian! Not sure why they don’t use “tsar”, though. That’s pretty scary, too, and that way they could claim the President has czars and tsars!


  105. gummble-bee-itch says:

    Almost forgot! “BOOGA BOOGA!”



  106. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Bush turned advisors into magicians with the term ‘czar.’ Maybe he had that magic wand after all. Oh well, I was a real sucker for high gas prices anyway …


  107. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    gummble,
    You say tsar…
    … I say tay-csar!

    Then we’ll see who’s the boss of whom.


  108. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Bill O’Reilly is a patriotic eagle, keen vision and all, except with a sex addition. Yes, a sex-addicted eagle. Hawk! Hump! Hawk!


  109. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Do you guys mind if I drop sometime tomorrow and maybe I can see about getting my country back?



  110. 1st Republic 14th Star says:

    …I expect that questioning to continue for the foreseeable future.

    David Weigel writes that Cass Sunstein is likely to be Beck’s next target.

    And THAT explains why Democrats are wrong to keep caving in and selling out. Whether it’s health care reform, withdrawing troops from Iraq, or deciding who works for you, very time you give in to these jackasses, it only encourages them to keep it up.

    Beck had lost about 60 advertisers after he called President Obama a racist. He was on the ropes. Now he looks like he’s on par with the President of the United States, and when he launches his next attack against another Obama subordinate, he’ll have new found credibility.

    People want to back Obama. We want to support a Democratic agenda. But how can we, when Obama, Reid, Pelosi and the rest won’t draw a line in the sand and stand behind ANYTHING? If Obama won’t fight for his own staff, what will he fight for?


  111. katy says:

    max – i showed up late the other night to respond to your comment…
    now i’m curious…
    will have to check back tomorrow… 2 hours of sleep last night was not enough…
    later…


  112. katy says:

    hear! hear! 1st republic… no kiddin’…


  113. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Dear GOP REALLY,
    Do you know where you last had it. I always find that when I’ve misplaced something, tracing my steps helps me.

    Oh, sorry. When you say you need to “get my country back” you make it sound like a lost wallet while shopping. What were you buying at the time you lost it?

    .


  114. Xisithrus says:

    Do you guys mind if I drop sometime tomorrow and maybe I can see about getting my country back?

    I think it was lost around 1913. But sure, drop in.


  115. whatizz says:

    Sometimes people who know they are going to be a distraction do the right thing and go away.The only problem here is the perception about support for the personnel working for the Administration.A different problem is the semantics used and the names of different positions.For Glen to be able to go after anyone tells you there is an imbalance in coverage.Our country has to be better than this.


  116. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    I don’t think it was in my wallet; a white guy is too big to fit in there. Something didn’t seem right at noon, January 20, and then I just realized, WHERE’S MY COUNTRY?


  117. bradshaw88 says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  118. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    I liked it when Reagan dumped mental patients back into society, it produced a surplus of GOP voters. It gave me a diarrheal boost at the ballot box.



  119. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    bradshaw (he was crappy wrestler!), I’m glad we both know what the president did. No evidence required.


  120. Reggie says:

    bradshaw88 says:

    Van Jones chose to do the honorable thing and resign.

    Since he was only an adviser, nothing really has changed other than the fact that he is no longer being paid to give advice.

    Do you have any proof that the President is no longer going to be asking him for advice?

    I know you won’t be capable of understanding this because because wing nuts do not understand the concept of honor and putting country before self.


  121. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    #119,
    The same place you put the baby?


  122. Xisithrus says:

    Glad I could help to educate you!

    Hes gone, for whatever reason. Yet your education is allowing you to prattle on for no discernible reason.


  123. Xisithrus says:

    I liked it when Reagan dumped mental patients back into society,

    Huh, I was wondering what ‘either your with us or against us’ playground taunt really came from. The crazy playground.


  124. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    X,
    I’m proud to live in a country that affords it’s citizens…
    … The ability to act like prattle.


  125. jurassicpork says:

    Re the Van Jones “resignation”: I didn’t vote for Neville Chamberlain. Did you?


  126. Xisithrus says:

    X,
    I’m proud to live in a country that affords it’s citizens…
    … The ability to act like prattle.

    I just wish we could afford more original prattlers


  127. SP Biloxi says:

    25. Death Counselor sez:

    Thanks for posting my previous thread of the clown president’s czars. Simply a waste of money and served no purpose. But, we are talking about an incompentent and former President that had three failed businesses, a rich daddy to bail him out in everything that he failed in, and went on vacation than any previous Presidents.

    On a side note, thank you Mr. Podesta for speaking positively about Van Jones. I did see your speech as well as Van Jones’ speech on the White House website when you two spoke along with a panel for Biden’s strong middle class project. Beck’s worse nightmare would be if Van Jones became a private consultant [which I highly recommend Obama to do] to the White House on green jobs. That would be a hoot.


  128. bellarose says:

    to those who compare Obama’s “spine” to FDR, let’s remember that FDR didn’t have right wing Fox and 90% of talk radio et al breathing down his neck and their followers weakening his Presidency. FDR had a desperate nation, most struggling, who were looking for and needed change. Though too many in USA are on very hard times, a majority are doing okay and do not want change, especially those with already bulging wallets like O’Reilly, Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, Coulter et al who are determined to bring down the Obama Presidency. George Bush had a cakewalk compared to what is going on now.


  129. RUCerious says:

    It’s time for us, as a unit, to go after Ben Gleck, his sponsors and his network.
    Boycott, write, phone, fax, email and continue the barrage until this evil clown is off the air.


  130. pete says:

    I’m conflicted. I think that, had Mr. Jones decided to pursue the matter further, he would have won. On the other hand, his resignation means that the Administration simply doesn’t have to dignify the Reichwing batscat with a response.

    Plus, Becky is down some 50-plus sponsors as it is. Even if he isn’t dragged off the set in a straight jacket I don’t think he can last much longer. Once his hosts are reduced to public service announcements and pimping their own programming during his air time? Buh-bye, Becky.


  131. Virtual Pebble says:

    From the update; “Glenn Beck released a statement, pledging to go after “other radicals in the administration”:

    The American people stood up and demanded answers. Instead of providing them, the Administration had Jones resign under cover of darkness. I continue to be amazed by the power of everyday Americans to initiate change in our government through honest questioning, and judging by the other radicals in the administration, I expect that questioning to continue for the foreseeable future.

    Whoa, not so fracking fast, arsehole. What a load of pompous BS. The American people demanded no such thing. You, Glen Beck, got unlucky and someone decided to leave instead of continuing to be a distraction. Unlucky, because your next target may not be as cooperative, and unlucky, because the distraction was only inside the Beltway media audience. No one else was paying attention.

    The “issue”, if you want to call it that didn’t even make the wire services until today. That should tell everyone something about how much of a stir this has caused – not much outside of those who attend to politics. But you may have attracted some attention you really don’t want; don’t worry though, it’ll come straight at you – you won’t be blindsided by some perversion from your past. Oh, maybe you will be. We’ll see shortly.

    Amazed by the honest questioning… Provide some data for that assertion, sir. Have the White House e-mail servers been swamped by demands that Van Jones go? Or have you just been reading your own tweets and facebook postings? Give us a break, Glenda. If one or two more of your advertisers quit, Rupert is going to fire your sorry butt, isn’t he?


  132. Xisithrus says:

    I have no idea what a Beck is or isnt about…and not about to find out why that is..prolly cause it bores me.


  133. aquarius2 says:

    Not one more resignation from this cabinet. The Republicans said far worse over the past several years and more importantly over the past several months. Too GD bad if the right side of the aisle is whining and crying, let them.

    Enough is enough, if Republicans do not let the rhetoric then get the hell out of politics. By the same token, if Dems don’t start acting like the majority their collective backsides are going to be out of jobs come next eletion.


  134. Xisithrus says:

    The collecive [birthers, tenthers, deathers, confirmers] nutters have spouted so much lunacy…..

    Laugh them off the stage


  135. Lost in Tarnation says:

    Yay, John Podesta! Beck and the paranoids out there deserve nothing more than a big FU. Anything else encourages them. And administration that claims to run on facts and science has no business bowing to the faith-based claims of a self-confessed clown and entertainer.


  136. wise latino says:

    While Beck is looking for his next victim, maybe he can address the accusation of himself raping and murdering a girl, or murdering then raping a girl, which Beck was linked to.

    http://gatsome.com/2009/09/01/glenn-beck-raped-and-murdered-a-girl-in-1990/


  137. Mr. Sonia Herecomestheangst says:

    I see now why Glenn Beck hates liberal history professors:

    Glenn can see no wrong in what Senator Joseph McCarthy did and it is his mission in life to retcon those historic facts against his idol and those of the same ilk.

    Glenn Beck is the evil Sam Beckett, wronging the rights to bring darkness upon the future that has yet to be written.


  138. SP Biloxi says:

    Memo to Beck: NAACP has got Van Jones’ back…

    NAACP CONTINUES ITS SUPPORT OF VAN JONES AND WHITE HOUSE GREEN JOBS INITIATIVE

    NAACP Continues its Support of Special Advisor of Green Jobs Van Jones and the White House Green Jobs Initiative. The NAACP is calling for civility in the national discourse on safe, clean communities and sustainable sources of domestic energy. It is time to end the personal attacks on administration officials as a distraction to crucial discussion on our nation and our world’s environmental conditions.

    NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous:

    “It is sad and unfortunate that our nation’s precious airwaves and cable television time are being occupied with the unscrupulous, diversionary tactics launched by right wing extremists such as Glenn Beck. These desperate tactics divert America’s attention and intellectual resources away from issues affecting our families and communities. These life-and-death concerns are being overshadowed by employing ruthless attacks against Van Jones, White House Special Advisor for Green Jobs and dedicated advocate for safe, clean and healthy communities.

    Van Jones has established himself through his many years in public service as a hardworking advocate for positive, progressive change. He is a devoted husband and father. Mr. Beck and the other news services’ portrayal of Mr. Jones to the contrary is not only distracting and disingenuous but harmful and destructive.

    “The only thing more outrageous than Mr. Beck’s attack on Van Jones is the fact that there are sponsors that continue to pay him to provide this type of offensive commentary. I can only assume hat this is the very reason that several dozen organizations throughout our country have gone on record stating they will boycott FOX News (the television network home of Glenn Beck). While we defend the right to free speech for all Americans, we expect news outlets throughout our country to uphold civility in their portrayal of the President of the United States as well as members of his administration and others who have wrongfully come under scrutiny. America’s news outlets have the responsibility to uphold accuracy and integrity in their reporting.”

    And Mr. Jealous’ statement of Van Jones’ resignation:

    Van Jones made a tough decision to step aside so that the nation’s reform agenda will not be sidetracked by those who spin lies for profit.

    Mr. Jones was on Time Magazine’s list of the 100 most influential people in the world before he entered the White House. He was a bestselling author before he entered the White House. He was someone who made the leap from the public schools of Jackson, Tennessee to Yale University long before he entered the White House.

    Now that he has chosen to leave the White House, we fully expect Mr. Jones to continue to help lead our nation out of its dual crises of environmental degradation and mass unemployment.

    On a personal note, I have known Van Jones for more than 15 years. In that time he, as is characteristic of great public servants, has continuously grown and increased his capacity for improving the condition of humanity. Throughout, he has been guided by a powerful sense of patriotism and love for all.

    –Ben Jealous, President and CEO, NAACP

    http://www.naacp.org/news/press/2009-09-04/index.htm


  139. Anonymouse says:

    Not that I watch Faux News, but I say we push even harder on Mr. Beck’s sponsors. The man is a bully, and he deserves some justice.

    A-holes indeed.


  140. Perry logan says:

    Looks like we have another Jimmy Carter on our hands. No FDR by any measure.

    Whoa there. Let’s not start insulting Jimmy Carter.

    Jimmy was a real Democrat. Barack Obama is some kinda neocon.

    Jimmy Carter didn’t pose as a progressive.
    Jimmy Carter didn’t steal the primary to get nominated.
    Jimmy Carter didn’t pour trillions into the financial sector.
    Jimmy Carter didn’t refuse to investigate war crimes and treason.
    Jimmy Carter didn’t destroy our chances for publicly-funded elections.
    Jimmy Carter didn’t continue policies that could fairly be called fascist.



  141. KayInMaine says:

    wise latino says:

    While Beck is looking for his next victim, maybe he can address the accusation of himself raping and murdering a girl, or murdering then raping a girl, which Beck was linked to.

    http://gatsome.com/2009/09/01/glenn-beck-raped-and-murdered-a-girl-in-1990/
    September 7th, 2009 at 2:32 am

    Exactly. Since Beck hasn’t come out publicly to denounce these accusations, you know what that means? They’re true!


  142. KayInMaine says:

    George Bush’s Czars:

    Abstinence Czar (Randal Tobias)
    AIDS Czar (4 Czars: Scott Evertz, Joe O’Neill, Carol Thompson, Jeffrey Crowley)
    Bank Bailout Czar (Neel Kashkari)
    Bioethics Czar ( Leon Kass)
    Bird flu Czar (Stewart Simonson)
    Birth control czar (Erik Keroack)
    Budget czar (3 Czars: Mitchell Daniels, Joshua Bolton, Rob Portman)
    Clean Up Czar (2 Czars: Jessie Roberson & James Rispoli)
    Communications Czar (Dan Bartlett)
    Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czar (2 Czars: Richard Clarke, Rod Beckstrom)
    Democracy Czar (Elliott Abrams)
    Domestic Policy Czar (Karl Rove)
    Drug Czar (John P. Walters)
    Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czar (4 Czars: Don Willett, John Dilulio, Jim Towey, Jay Hein)
    Food Safety Czar (David W.K. Acheson)
    Global AIDS Czar (2 Czars: Randall Tobias, Mark Dybul)
    Health Czar for WTC, World Trade Center Health Czar (John Howard)
    Health IT Czar (David Brailer)
    Homeland Security Czar (Michael Chertoff)
    Homeless Czar, Homelessness Czar (Phil Mangano)
    Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar, Hurricane Katrina Recovery Czar (Donald E. Powell)
    Intelligence Czar (2 Czars: John Negroponte & John Michael McConnell)
    Manufacturing Czar (2 Czars: Albert Frink & William G. Sutton)
    Policy Czar (Micahel Gerson)
    Public Diplomacy Czar (2 Czars: Karen Hughes & James Glassman)
    Reading Czar (G. Reid Lyon)
    Regulatory Czar (2 Czars: John D. Graham & Susan Dudley)
    Science Czar (John Marburger)
    Terrorism Czar (3 Czars: Richard A. Clarke, Wayne Downing, John O. Brennan)
    War Czar (Douglas Lute)


  143. pluege says:

    clearly, the Obama administration has no idea who they dealing with. The merits of the Van JOnes case are completely besides the point. That a wingnut smear campaign worked is THE ONLY message here, and by resigning Jones has unleashed a shitstorm of inane, insane howling beast, not even human smears and lies on decent people everywhere.


  144. Death Counselor says:

    pete says:

    I’m conflicted. I think that, had Mr. Jones decided to pursue the matter further, he would have won. On the other hand, his resignation means that the Administration simply doesn’t have to dignify the Reichwing batscat with a response.

    Plus, Becky is down some 50-plus sponsors as it is. Even if he isn’t dragged off the set in a straight jacket I don’t think he can last much longer. Once his hosts are reduced to public service announcements and pimping their own programming during his air time? Buh-bye, Becky.

    I no longer care about Beck. I want to bring down Murdoch. Why is there no information about what proclivities or deviant behavior Rupert Murdoch likes to partake of? He is ripe for the pickings. And as Murdoch goes, so goes FOX.

    BRING DOWN MURDOCH!!!!



  145. Death Counselor says:

  146. Death Counselor says:

  147. Death Counselor says:


  148. Lunaluz says:

    I am so sick of these Rightwing talking heads spewing their hysterical, devisive, crap. It would be one thing if they were telling the truth, but most of what Beck and his ilk spout is distorted or outright lies. What has happened to this country? Why are people rallying around these uneducated, big mouthed, short on facts, nuts? People, wake up and think for yourself! I’d head for a cliff if I EVER used Glenn Beck and that ilk to make a point in any argument.


  149. Marie says:

    It is sad and maddeningly rustrating that a vile celebrity like Glenn Beck can bring down a valuable person in the administration.
    When repugniscum are exposed for questionable behavior, if not crimes, they belligerently remain in the battle, get the backing of others in the party, the public memory fades, and they go on with their business.
    Democrats, even those who are victims of a witchhunter, always leave for the greater good, and we are the worse for it.


  150. Marie says:

    I won’t forgive Democrats who stand by silently as one of the good guys gets brought down by the likes of Fox-TV.


  151. mcthfg says:

    I am sure that Van will continue to do good works because he’s been doing good works for so long, but I ask, why is ours the party of weenies? Beck is one guy with a small group of crazies that listens to him. They don’t want to participate in America, and we should respect their wishes by not acknowledging anything they say or do.

    And if the dems had any guts at all, they’d go after Fox as an illegally funded extension of the republican party. We have campaign finance laws for this very reason.

    But no, our side quits when stuff like this happens…


  152. Doc Rock says:

    It would be nice if there really were a Hell and punishment for evil.


  153. jondor says:

    You gotta love how the Repugs come on here an parrot Fox/Beck statements about Van Jones. Dumb, ignorant simpletons.


  154. jondor says:

    Glenn Beck is a former drug addict and alcoholic and college drop-out. The lemmings identify.


  155. Hug The Moon says:

    Maybe Van should un-resign. Should take on his foes. He may not be a distraction. Might actually be a flash point to dis-empower Beck.
    Van can take his proximity to the Obama to encourage the President to review what actually happened on 9/11. You know, maybe ask the President to view the Pentagon attack tapes for himself.
    People put down truthers. We all know what the opposite of truth is.
    OK here comes the insults. I am only accepting insults from people who had actually seen clear footage of a PLANE hit the pentagon. There were plenty of cameras rolling that day.


  156. Briseadh na Faire says:

    The beast has been fed. The beast is hungry again. It’s appetite will increase exponentially, as will the hatred, vitriol, lies and distortions.


  157. Hug The Moon says:

    Van’s resignation was a bigger distraction. You thought it would end there? He should un-resign. Let Beck become distracted from his next scalping campaign.
    We give the repubs too much. There is no reason to. Dean is correct when he says craft a healthcare plan that does not call for a single republican vote.


  158. pags2 says:

    There are more than enough crackpots to take Beck’s place if he were taken off the air. Fox declared war on the Dems during Clinton’s administration and it will not end until Fox is completely discredited. That cannot happen by attacking one commentator because there are many more at Fox that are willing to continue the war. The people who watch Fox will never see it for what it really is-a propaganda outlet for the Republicans. Commentators like Beck will turn off some of the more rational people who watch Fox and get disgusted. The rest of the viewers will never change their opinions unless some earth shattering event moves them. That is a pretty high bar considering some of the things that have been said on Fox.


  159. DNFP says:

    (pardon the re-post from earlier thread:)

    The right-wing has effectively taken control over our 4th branch of government, the “free” press.

    Until the Fairness Doctrine is re-instated, we’re headed for continued ruination of our Nation.


  160. Leftside Annie says:

    Heh. The lunatics are running the asylum.

    Sad, isn’t it?


  161. NinerFan says:

    Isn’t it a little early for all these Beck-loving morons to be doing touchdown dances?

    At this time, the Glenn Beck show is enjoying good ratings, but he’s lost over 57 sponsors, some of whom have decided not to advertise on ANY FOX News network show. Trust me on this, Beck-suckers: there are a LOT more people who can’t stand Beck than people who like him and many of the people tuning in are just tuning in to watch a freak show. Dance while you can, morons. The song is almost over.


  162. karendotcom says:

    Bush had an Abstinence Czar? What, did they pay this guy to not have sex?


  163. NinerFan says:

    Reagan had scores of czars. George HW Bush had lots of czars. Clinton and GW Bush both had czars.

    Beck and his fans are very, very worried about Obama’s czars.

    There is only one explanation: Beck and his fans are racists.


  164. SP Biloxi says:

    KayInMaine sez:

    And Beck and Fox News have the nerve and audacity to question President Obama’s picks of czars? The former clown President certainly had a field days appointing his buddies for jobs as czars. And he didn’t care less about the money that his friends were getting because it wasn’t his own money that he was dishing out.


  165. Beethoven Rules says:

    BECK 1 WHITE HOUSE 0


  166. EugeneDebs says:

    Beethoven Rules says:

    My GOD you are a stupid and completely worthless punkass troll


  167. EugeneDebs says:

    How many advertisers has Beck lost again? 55? 60?


  168. Beethoven Rules says:

    Eugenedebs: Stick and stones. How are things in Moscow on the Willimette?


  169. Beethoven Rules says:

    Ninerfan: GH Bush and Clinton had czars but none were avowed communist.


  170. EugeneDebs says:

    Beethoven Rules says:

    Facts dont mean anything to you either you ignorant punkass troll. You are a liar and a fool and a worthless pile of dogshit. He said he was a marxist long ago and this whole ignorant talking point is not only stupid but long ago debunked. You are a brainwashed moron too stupid to care if what you say is true. You only want to regurgitate it because that is the kind of ignorant lying moron you are. How are things at your KKK meetings you Fascist piece of garbage?


  171. NinerFan says:

    Beethoven Rolls over in his grave: “Ninerfan: GH Bush and Clinton had czars but none were avowed communist.”

    Neither is this guy, dumbass.


  172. NinerFan says:

    One of these days the morons who follow Glenn Beck just may check up on one of his ramblings and find out he’s simply out of his mind. I’m not sure this will be the one because Van Jones is black and we know that Glenn Beck fans are simply racists to begin with.


  173. NinerFan says:

    You have to wonder how high pitched they’d be wailing and screaming if they knew one of Obama’s czars was a convicted felon. Only dogs could hear them. Oh, wait a minute. That was one of GW’s czars. Doesn’t count.


  174. Beethoven Rules says:

    Here’s how the East Bay Express described the “Green Jobs Czar’s” background:

    Jones had planned to move to Washington, DC, and had already landed a job and an apartment there. But in jail, he said, “I met all these young radical people of color — I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, ‘This is what I need to be a part of.’” Although he already had a plane ticket, he decided to stay in San Francisco. “I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary.” In the months that followed, he let go of any lingering thoughts that he might fit in with the status quo. “I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th,” he said. “By August, I was a communist.”


  175. Beethoven Rules says:

    You can find out all you want about Van Jones, just use al gore’s invention and goggle van jones.


  176. Leftside Annie says:

    BR – gosh, you’re astoundingly stupid, aren’t you?


  177. Reggie says:

    Beethoven Rules says bull $hit:

    I am going to call shenanigans, Van Jones was arrested with hundreds of other protesters, the charges were dropped and Van Jones was issued an apology for the false arrest.

    BR, are you a Bircher, a Paulbot or both?
    Do you masturbate while watching Glen Beck?


  178. Beethoven Rules says:

    Reggie: Why the concern over mastubation? I doubt if you could get your mouth around it.


  179. NinerFan says:

    ““By August, I was a communist.””

    Beethoven, I may be splitting hairs here, but you originally said Van Jones is a communist and, as evidence, you’ve pointed to a story about his youth, a couple decades earlier when he said he was a communist.

    Here’s my problem with your argument: “is” is not the same as “was.”


  180. Beethoven Rules says:

    ninerfan: It depends on what the definition of “is” is. I think if you were really an open minded person, you could just go to again al gore’s invention and google van jones and watch all the video clips of his speeches, you would be able to determine his status. Is and was will become moot. Expand your horizons and when you get to high school you might be able to learn.


  181. NinerFan says:

    Hey, whatever, you and I both know that Van Jones is not a communist. If you want to continue to pretend that a Democrat would hire a communist for an important administrative post, you’re entitled to your fantasies no matter how illogical or fantastic they are. It’s become pretty obvious that people like you believe anything people like Beck say because you want to believe them – not because they make any sense.


  182. Beethoven Rules says:

    ninerfan: again let me challenge you to review the videos, not the Beck ones. Look at them, take in what he says. If your not willing to do this, then you my friend are the one living in a fantasy world. Look at them and report back. Of course your probably so tied into your progressive world that your afraid to see the truth. Look at the videos.


  183. EugeneDebs says:

    Beethoven Rules says:

    You are staggeringly pathetically stupid. You SAID he IS an avowed communist and you provide a link to what10 15 years ago when he once said he was a communist? Are you kidding or are you REALLY that humiliatingly stupid? STFU till you grow up and can actually be taken seriously.


  184. EugeneDebs says:

    Beethoven Rules says:

    I am pretty sure your trailer trash whore of a mother could and does regularly. I guess I could go down to skid row where she blows crackheads for dimes and pay her a nickel to find out.


  185. EugeneDebs says:

    Beethoven Rules says:

    You are a liar and a brainwashed fool. Gore never said he invented the internet you ignorant pile of dogshit. I know you think it is clever to be a putrid punkass troll but really its just stupid and pathetic.


  186. EugeneDebs says:

    Beethoven Rules says:

    No it doesnt you bone ignorant lying piece of shit. The past tense of a verb is never the same as the present tense of a verb. Even someone as mind bogglingly stupid as you knows that. You are a liar.


  187. EdgeOnIt says:

    ‘Target’ is a great term for each of three permanent objects, which form the geometric triangle needed by a surveyor to properly map a given parcel of land; however, ‘the way out’ of a normal interaction, face to face with a neighbor, is NOT to randomly target a strange passer-by, and rudely set out in roughly his or her general direction! A conversation partner, is actuly just a round about location, between our last shelter, and our permanent shelter!?


  188. Beethoven Rules says:

    Eugenedebs: you sure seem to filled with a lot of anger. I will give you the same challenge I gave ninerfan. Look up the videos of Van Jones’ speeches. They speak for themselves. Like Jack Nickelson said in A Few Good Men, YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
    BTW: Are you a member of the Earth Liberation movement out of Eugene?


  189. EugeneDebs says:

    Beethoven Rules says:

    No anger here moron. What is it with you wingnuts that you think everyone who slaps the stupid out of you for your trolling must be mad? You wouldnt know the truth if it burned down your garage and slept with your rubber doll wife. You are a moron. You are too stupid to even know what communism is. He wrote a book about free market solutions to ecological problems. He hasnt been trying to lead a communist revolution. Look you are stupid. Everyone knows that. This thing has been debunked long ago and several times. You dont even CARE what the truth is you only care about spouting the stupid you have been programmed with and trying to annoy the liberals. The thing is you are too stupid to pull off annoying anyone. It just amuses me treat you with the contempt you treat the left with. Perhaps someone as bone ignorant as you is only motivated by anger or other lower emotions. I just like to amuse myself and you are the one stupid enough to wear the red rubber nose and size 18 shoes


  190. EugeneDebs says:

    By the way Beethoven moron are YOU a member of the KKK? Aryan Nation? The Marching Moron society?


  191. ctcadguy says:

    The man spoke the truth initially, 911 = Inside job and he was he could not take the heat.

    Half of America would not be surprised if 911 was an Inside Job.

    According to a 2007 New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attac ks:

    “Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lyin g?

    Telling the truth 16%

    Hiding something 53%

    Mostly lyin g 28%

    Not sure 3%”

    I guess half of America is not qualified to work for Obama.


  192. JNagarya says:

    “arco” –

    “Van Jones is a radical. Jones, along with 33 other czars, have been put into positions of extraordinary power without congressional votes, and without being elected by the American people.”

    It is routine for an administration to appoint people to various posts with varying degrees of authority and power. Did you complain when Bush did it, even though his appointees weren’t elected? No, you did not. And you did not because he was a far-right lunatic frnger exactly like you and the Glenn Beck-wannabe America-haters.

    Here’s a moral and ethical clue for you:

    The first person damaged by your hatred is YOU.


  193. karadagli61 says:

    Thank you for your sharing.!



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