Before President Obama delivered his speech to America’s schoolchildren today, emphasizing to them the value of “persisting and succeeding in school,” former Bush adviser Karl Rove fearmongered about the speech by making up provisions in the “classroom activities” that the Department of Education has suggested teachers could use to supplement the speech.
Last week, when conservatives first began freaking out about the speech, their main objection was to a line in the suggested classroom activities that said students could “write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.” After receiving complaints, the Department of Education changed the section to read, “Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short-term and long-term education goals,” saying that wanted to make sure “the intent is clear.”
But on Fox News today, Rove said the provision was still insidious:
ROVE: I mean, look, this, the White House was tone deaf. They clearly had a purpose here, which was let’s have the president speak to every student in the country, let’s have a study guide, let’s have them write the president, then president can them back. In fact, they still have that in there. The president’s — the students are now being encouraged to write the president about sort of their life experiences, so the White House can then, you know, using the Department of Education budget, send out God knows how many, hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of letters to students signed by the president, saying thank you for writing this. Clearly has a political import. It’s clearly using the government’s budget in a way to advance the president personally. It’s the kind of thing that makes all Americans uneasy about what the White House is doing.
Rove closed by saying that “the purpose” of the speech “was partly good, partly political. It’s now been turned a lot more good, less political, but there still is a political utility to this, which is have them write the president and then using the Department of Education budget have the president write them back.” Watch it:
Rove is lying when he says “students are now being encouraged to write the president.” In fact, the only letters mentioned in the suggested activities for either Grades preK-6 or Grades 7-12 would be addressed to the students “themselves.” “Teachers would collect and redistribute these letters at an appropriate later date to enable students to monitor their progress,” says the Grades preK-6 packet.
Additionally, it’s ironic that Karl Rove would complain about “using the government’s budget in a way to advance” partisan politics. The Bush White House inserted politics into federal agencies in an unprecedented manner, using “asset deployment” to have administration officials boost GOP candidates with photo-ops and grants. For instance, in March 2008, then-Education Secretary Margaret Spellings announced a pilot program for the federal No Child Left Behind law, even though Minnesota didn’t have enough qualifying schools to participate in the program. Spellings announced the program during an appearance with then-Sen. Norm Coleman, who was in a tough race against Al Franken.
Just WHY isn’t this fat phuck in jail yet?
September 8th, 2009 at 2:28 pmswine
September 8th, 2009 at 2:31 pmRove is safe on Fux — no one will ever challenge his head-spinning, spittle-flecked lies.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:32 pmthe students are now being encouraged to write the president about sort of their life experiences,
– - I’ve got Bush’s home address. Maybe I’ll send him my life experiences about my pet goat.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:32 pmHey all, I’ve made a video for an old band practice recording of a spontaneous combustion jam from 1997. The music and vocals sound so “Bleak” I decided to add bleak images and statistics of homelessness, poverty, hunger, unemployment, death from unaffordable health care, 9/11, our dead and wounded soldiers and of course those who OWN the US Government. Let me know what you think! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvk0Dm4adRM
September 8th, 2009 at 2:35 pmRove is a liar with the morals of a weasel on speed as Hunter S Thompson once said. It is bad enough the Dept of Education had to change the wording of the supplement because rightwing morons are too stupid to connect two ideas. They kids hear a speech about education are told to write letters to themselves on how they can help the president reach his goals and they have to be TOLD it means the education goals he had JUST TALKED TO THEM ABOUT? I would like Americans to be treated like adults but it seems the right is just too stupid to be treated that way.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:36 pmI have a question for paid political consultant Karl Rove.
Who’s paying you to mutilate the truth today?
September 8th, 2009 at 2:37 pm.
1+1/=2 to (R)ove.
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September 8th, 2009 at 2:38 pmShorter Rove: Your either with us or against us
…remember that indoctrination threat Peegpeen?
September 8th, 2009 at 2:39 pmWhy is this turd licker not in Prison?
Watched the speech, the ReichWingers are idiots, this had nothing to do with politics and everything with encouraging students to excel. and not be disappointed with failures every once in awhile and to keep trying to do their best.
The schools and teachers that would not air this speech are scum, the parents should have a class action lawsuit against these people and they should be fired from their jobs. It is obvious that it is them that are trying to brainwash our children with their ReichWinger Lies and propaganda.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:40 pmTurdblossom was Cheney’s Pet Goat.
How many Federal subpoenas has this asshat ignored?
Which of the following are true?…
a. KKKarl lies for money.
b. KKKarl lies on live TV.
c. KKKarl fixes US elections.
d. KKKarl fires US Attorneys for not begin political.
e. KKKarl outs covert CIA agents.
f. KKKarl blows goats.
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September 8th, 2009 at 2:40 pmIt just tells you how banckrupt the GOP is both morally and intellectually when they attack the President for telling students what their own parents should be telling them as well as reinforcing.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:40 pmHere is a man, who by the POWER OF HIS EXAMPLE is able to show students what happens when you do the right thing and take advantage of what you can get from a good education.
Mr. Turd Blossom is not credible…another Bushy that has no credibility. Lying…cheating…stealing…scheming…more lying…
Let’s face it…he’s a pig.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:42 pmSeriously, Bush threatened people, with a schoolyard taunt, that we are either with is ‘indoctrination’ or we are against his ‘indoctrination’ and then Gonzo, IIRC, wait, no, it was Ari Fleishcer, says “Watch what you do and what you say”
Go Away Caral
September 8th, 2009 at 2:42 pmYanno, Karl looks like one of those Kabul guards that was drinking Derrier.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:44 pmKarl Rove Lies????
September 8th, 2009 at 2:44 pmWasn’t his mouth moving? Then, that’s a given!
In order to escape moderation hell, I respectfully resubmit:
>>I think all students should be encouraged to write to Karl Rove:
Dear Karl,
F*** you, you treasonous dirtbag.
Sincerely,
Johnny & Susie
September 8th, 2009 at 2:45 pm5th Grade
Morris Elementary
And what was the purpose of reading my pet goat to schoolkids Karl? How was that budgeted? Indoctrinating them to be presidents pets? To be some little goat that is either with him or against him?
September 8th, 2009 at 2:47 pmROVE: I mean, look, this, the White House was tone deaf.
And you spent eight years with your fingers in your ears.
Suck it up, Karl. You had a chance for glory, and squandered it for political gain.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:48 pmRove is Jealous since all the letters he gets from kids include the phrase f**** off and die.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:50 pmGoddamn the fcuking liars all to hell.
We Can’t Afford to Wait
September 8th, 2009 at 2:51 pmFORWARD WITH PROGRESS, THOSE OPPOSED WILL BE DAMNED BY PROGRESS.
“Rove is lying” when his mouth is moving on TV. There, now go find a real news story.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:51 pm1) Karl Rove has spoken
2) He spoke on Faux News
3) Only Republicans watch/believe anything said on Faux News
4) This man and his words are therefore not relevant
Have a GREAT day!
September 8th, 2009 at 2:51 pmRove remembers history well. Baby Boomers like myself were involved in our Country because of President Kennedy. Now what’s interesting is President Reagan left the same impression with young people as he was a strong President. Daddy Bush was good but his Vice President couldn’t spell potato as the World watched. I guess parents today would rather have Dan Quale give a speech to the kids then President Obama. Nothing like having kids follow an idiot who was appointed by idiots.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:52 pm“Write letters to themselves…”
“Write letters to themselves…”
“Write letters to themselves…”
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the stupid is strong with these idjits…
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ed was saying one of the complaints was that the w.h. would be able to collect even MORE addresses from these letters…
how???
“Write letters to themselves…”
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it will be never ending…
September 8th, 2009 at 2:53 pmPathetic, out-dated, and out-moded Republicans, desperate for anything at all to grab onto to create fear, will use the full force of their propaganda machine every single time Obamam does anything, says anything, goes anywhere, etc. That much is obvious.
And although there may be many uneducated, uninformed, gullible, and scared/worried voters out there, the right-wing is forgetting one fact: When the American public reaches message saturation regarding anything, they tend to lose interest quite fast. And at the speed with which the frantic right-wing is spouting new lies daily, that day is coming sooner rather than later.
Maybe they really should change their political symbol to a dinosaur (wearing a saddle of course!) because it seems as though they too may be extinct soon unless they come up with some new tactics. And “new” is not something that conservatives ever accept willingly.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:53 pmWhy is Karl Rove even allowed to speak as an “expert”??? Should he not be in jail?
September 8th, 2009 at 2:54 pmYou mean my personally signed letter by Regan for a school project wasn’t really signed by him? I was just one of thousands maybe millions of people to get one. What a JIP, I feel so duped.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:56 pmI though Rove was discretited and sitting in prison. I guess the wheels of justice turn slowly.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:57 pmHow Rovian, lie, spin, lie…. Let’s keep everyone all riled up so they won’t waste time on the laws and lies I helped craft for GW and Darth Cheney, when we went to war in Iraq, for oil *oops*, I meant to find and destroy all those WMD.’s that threatened The American Way of life.
September 8th, 2009 at 2:57 pmXisithrus says:
Yanno, Karl looks like one of those Kabul guards that was drinking Derrier.
i found out the other night on maddow, from ana marie cox, that is known as a “moon shot” !!! who knew!???
gaaa!
September 8th, 2009 at 3:05 pm“Rove Lies: Obama Is Encouraging Students To Write To Him Personally For ‘Political Utility’”
Everyone is thinking what I am thinking: Why is Tubby McTreason Rove allowed airtime and not in prison? I mean, that is my battle cry. It’s very nauseating to see Tubby on bobblehead shows giving his two cents of airtime of distorted crapola when his explosive and contradictory testimony to the House committee along with other evidence is now in the hands of the Special Prosecutor to decide whether Tubby will be charged with the USA firing probe. Not only Tubby gets a free pass by the media but so does indicted and ex-Congressman Twinkletoes bugman DeLay, the new Dancing with the Stars contestant.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:09 pm….Next, Charles Manson will be on to talk about how cult leaders are a danger to society and why Fred Phelps needs to be stopped……
September 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pmamish_edison says:
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Maybe they really should change their political symbol to a dinosaur (wearing a saddle of course!)
no saddle, but:
http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/3/Goposaur_xlg.gif
i’ve seen rachel maddow use this, or very similar, on her show…
September 8th, 2009 at 3:22 pmSounds to me that Rove’s just mad he never thought of the indoctrination plan himself.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:24 pmKKKarl is at it again,fear mongering about our Black Democrat of a president!!!!!!!!!!
September 8th, 2009 at 3:30 pmuh? Where’d Psycho ExPresident’s post go, I went and got a co-worker to read it.
I thought it was darn funny.
September 8th, 2009 at 3:49 pmTP – you could have just titled this post “Rove Lies” and left it at that. Because that is all he does.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:01 pmWhy is the Pillbury Doughboy out of jail? Who cares what this lying thug has to say?
September 8th, 2009 at 4:15 pmRove started his lies under Nixon and has taken them to a new and desperate level. He loves deviding the nation, he loves manipulation…..he loves lying and will stop at nothing to achieve the power he gets off on. It’s pathetic and scarey
September 8th, 2009 at 4:16 pmThe only people who care what Rove has to say are the Fox News viewers. In other words, no intelligent human being cares.
September 8th, 2009 at 4:22 pmAt some basic level these folks seem to think that a suggested lesson plan will be obeyed as an edict from Central Command.
Of course, if you are a Republican, that is how you react to instructions from hierarchy. That’s why they chose the authoritarian, paternalistic party, after all.
But teachers understand that a lesson plan is, well, um, a plan. Give our educators a bit of credit, will ya?
September 8th, 2009 at 4:53 pmOnly Fox would continue to interview this yet-to-be-convicted felon, and give him any credibility.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:23 pmHe should be banished from the media until his indictment.
W Bush also requested letters from kids.
Of course, by “letters” he literally meant a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,T is for Texas,u,v,w,x,y and z because the decider-guy just reads headlines to get a feel of the news; he doesn’t do nuance, chew his pretzels or even correctly pronunciate big words like nuclear like some homo elitist.
September 8th, 2009 at 5:59 pmThey’re just doing it to make you look petty and mean, Karl.
And it’s working.
September 8th, 2009 at 6:03 pmI am a Canadian.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:16 pmI have asked questions of this administration. I have gotten answers.
If I can, why can’t Americans?
You had me at “Rove lies”!
September 8th, 2009 at 7:29 pmLast week, when conservatives first began freaking out about the speech, their main objection was to a line in the suggested classroom activities that said students could “write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president.”
Funny how I’m pretty sure this would be no problem for the wingnuts if the President in question was still Bush.
September 8th, 2009 at 7:53 pmWell, when the repubs use govt time for political aims, the head of the agency serves cookies. Did the kids in school get cookies ????
But what is it in the bitterness. My local news ran a segment (obviously pulled from the national level) that interviews a lady in tears at the thought that her child may be “EXPOSED” to this speech. A simple civil speech of the president saying to study hard and apply oneself as this is a ladder to advancement.
And considering the state of the economy and international security, it seems highly appropriate to ask the school kids to think about ways they can make things better – to help out the country.
In Bostonian accent, “Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country.”
September 8th, 2009 at 7:56 pmA criminal liar. Rove is disgusting, dishonest, & anti-American. He proves daily he hates the U.S., its President, & the vast majority of the public with his deceit & his hatred.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:23 pmcrooks yell the loudest.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:29 pmWhy has Holder not investigated this creep?
September 8th, 2009 at 8:33 pmPolitical unity? Well, that has never happened.
September 8th, 2009 at 9:15 pmkwsventures says:
YOU making a post worth the waste of life it takes to read has never happened either
September 9th, 2009 at 2:08 amTYPICAL CONSERVATIVE FASCIST INDOCTRINATION:
http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2009/09/09/typical-conservative-fascist-indoctrination-20-football-players-baptized-fieldtrip-church-parents-wishes/
Spit.
September 9th, 2009 at 8:21 amFrom the posted headline; “Rove Lies…”.
What, another dog-bites-man story? Why can’t we try to trap Rove in an unsettling truth, one that would destroy his reputation, or at least beat it up a little more than it already has been.
And Rove has always been about partisan politics. He will NOT grant you, me, or anyone else that the interest of the nation may be different from the interests of whoever the masters of the Republican Party are, nor will he concede that the Republican Party might be in error. He considers the national interest to be the exclusive domain of the Republican Party and thinks admitting to the occasional error is weakness.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:52 amI watched the Obama speech and I must admit I’m confused. There was nothing about requiring students to learn how to be gay, he didn’t encourage young women to get pregnant just for the sake of having an abortion, no instructions on responsible flag burning. Hell, he didn’t even call for the creation of forced sodomy zones in our schools. What kind of communist/fascist/socialist/foreigner/totalitarian/baby-killing/Nazi dictator would simply encourage kids to do well in school? Did the right lie to me?
September 9th, 2009 at 11:48 amThank you for your sharing.!
September 11th, 2009 at 2:51 pmBefore President Obama delivered his speech to America’s schoolchildren, emphasizing to them the value of “persisting and succeeding in school,” former Bush adviser Karl Rove fearmongered about the speech by making up provisions in the “classroom activities” that the Department of Education has suggested teachers could use to supplement the speech.
September 14th, 2009 at 10:11 amThe Radical-Right-Wingnuts will say and do anything to advance their agenda.
Rove’s just one in a long line of losers who twist others’ words to their suit their needs.
The likes of Rove, and his mouthpieces (Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, Gingrich, O’Reilly, and everyone @ Faux-News are in league with each other and if it weren’t for the free (or damn-near free) radio access to these blowhards, no one would be listening.
September 14th, 2009 at 10:59 amSadly we all should have written dipshit Bush a couple thousands letters. Things would not be as screwed up as they are. gögüs estetigi
September 15th, 2009 at 6:30 am