Tonight during his joint address to Congress, President Obama attempted to set the record straight on some of the “key controversies” surrounding the health care debate. While it’s normal for members of the opposition party to occasionally not clap at statements with which they disagree, congressional Republicans went further tonight, being outright rude at times.
At one point, President Obama addressed the myth that his health care proposals would insure undocumented immigrants: “This, too, is false – the reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.”
In response, Republicans not only began booing him, but Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) shouted out, “LIE!” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) shot an angry look in his direction, and Vice President Biden shook his head. The rudeness shocked even veteran political observers such as NBC’s Chuck Todd, who wrote on Twitter, “Wow. What’s next a duel?” MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough also wrote, “Whoever shouted out that the president was lying is a dumbass who should show the President respect.” On MSNBC after the speech, Newsweek reporter Howard Fineman said, “The Republicans were mostly stage props in this speech tonight and they behaved like it.”
Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) could also be seen wearing holding a homemade sign — similar to the ones seen at town hall protests — around his neck, which read, “What bill?” Watch it:
Various Republican lawmakers were also holding up draft GOP bills during the speech:

Transcript:
Still, given all the misinformation that’s been spread over the past few months, I realize that many Americans have grown nervous about reform. So tonight I’d like to address some of the key controversies that are still out there.
Some of people’s concerns have grown out of bogus claims spread by those whose only agenda is to kill reform at any cost. The best example is the claim, made not just by radio and cable talk show hosts, but prominent politicians, that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to kill off senior citizens. Such a charge would be laughable if it weren’t so cynical and irresponsible. It is a lie, plain and simple.
There are also those who claim that our reform effort will insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false – the reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally. And one more misunderstanding I want to clear up – under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.
My health care proposal has also been attacked by some who oppose reform as a “government takeover” of the entire health care system. As proof, critics point to a provision in our plan that allows the uninsured and small businesses to choose a publicly-sponsored insurance option, administered by the government just like Medicaid or Medicare.
“This evening I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the President’s remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill. While I disagree with the President’s statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the President for this lack of civility.”
Why is it that the opposition has no voice, no leaders,no ideas? Is no all they have? Whatever happen to that little tween kid?
September 9th, 2009 at 9:37 pmGreat speech! Now the Republicans have their chance to prove their hearts are not made of stone.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:38 pmNo class losers.
F uck ‘em all.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:39 pmThe GOP looked like a bunch of grumpy old men, except Cantor, who looked like a weasel. I think the President made his case.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:39 pm***
chuck todd, joe scarborough and howard fineman,
what do they expect?
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the gop party leader is glenn beck.
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September 9th, 2009 at 9:39 pmThis is the person that we voted for to fill the office of President of the United States. Rep. Joe Wilson is a disgrace to himself and to the district that he represents. No one ever shouted at George W Bush when stood in front of Congress and lied about WMD’s in Iraq.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:39 pmI thought his inclusion of Ted Kennedy’s thoughts was brilliant. Health care is a moral imperative. And the idea that it’s perfectly okay to hold a treatment away from somebody just because they can’t pay for it is inhuman.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:40 pmSomebody needs a backrub…
September 9th, 2009 at 9:40 pmThe sad fact is that the same GOoPers will continue telling the same lies and the “librul media” will give them a pass. Yet, I’m overjoyed that the President dismissed the lies so thoroughly.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:40 pmdb – we have a mutual friend.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:41 pmWhat GOP’ers were holding up was barely what you’d call “a draft”. I’ve seen it. It barely qualifies as an “outline”.
My response to them: “What bill?”
September 9th, 2009 at 9:41 pmWayne A. Schneider,
The hearts of stone can be dealt with. It’s the rocks in their heads that makes collaboration impossible.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:42 pm***
#8,
the entire gop
needs a time out.
:|
spoiled, selfish brats.
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September 9th, 2009 at 9:42 pmSorry, not good enough. As I mentioned this morning, this Congress only has 16 months left to enact real healthcare legislation. If there is a waiting period before a public option is rolled out, the Dems will have lost, or at least dramatically decreased, their majorities, and the public option will never come to be.
And the ignorant GNOP dooshbag piece of shit who had the audacity to interupt a speech by the President with a shout of “LIAR!” should be publicly sanctioned by the House! Ignorance and disrespect – hallmarks of today’s GNOP.
PEACE
September 9th, 2009 at 9:42 pmCongressman Wilson of South Carolina needs to be publicly censured on the floor of the House of Representatives for verbally attacking the President of the United States during a speech to the combined congress of the United States.
NO member ever did this to the war criminal Bush …. EVER.
I guess respect for the Office of the President of the United States doesn’t include members of the republican party in congress after two historic losing elections.
I guess they can verbally attack the President of the United States while he addresses the nation in the chamber of the house, because as usual they live by special rules.
their own.
Not the nations
September 9th, 2009 at 9:43 pmI think the President made his case very well. He had more fire and passion than I have seen in a longgggg time. As to the American Taliban’s reaction:
September 9th, 2009 at 9:43 pmI hope they like the hole they dug for themselves tonight. And if Rick Perry is able to pull off the secession thing for Texas, he can take South Carolina with him as far as I’m concerned.
When President Obama stated that there would be no privatizing of Medicare, none of the Republicans clapped.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:43 pmit’s so cute to see the media pretend that they are shocked (SHOCKED, i tell you) at the treatment of the president, that they helped push along all summer long.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:43 pmMugsy, they don’t need a draft or an outline, that one page just had “tax cuts” typed 100 times.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:43 pmLawmakers Treat President Obama’s Joint Address To Congress Like A Town Hall Protest »
– - I tried leaving a love note at the Congressman’s website. Apparently he was getting lots of attention because his site crashed.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:44 pmThe level of disrespect was astounding!
Even Bush, atthe high of the Iraq War, didn’t receive such treatment from Democrats.
Beyond the heckling, GOP’ers didn’t stand or clap even for trifels like “no one should go broke over healthcare” (or whatever the line was).
September 9th, 2009 at 9:44 pmJane,
Or “no” typed 1000 times. :-D
September 9th, 2009 at 9:45 pmRude wasn’t the word. Jackasses fits better.
If they want to fight then GOOD. We can fight all the way to the midterms and instead of these bogus polls driving government lets see via ELECTION what the people REALLY want!
The President can use federal money in TWICE the amount than what business opposition uses for media ads. Republicans want to return tax money to the people, we can do it through Advertising agencies!
September 9th, 2009 at 9:46 pmBadmoodman says:
Lawmakers Treat President Obama’s Joint Address To Congress Like A Town Hall Protest »
- – I tried leaving a love note at the Congressman’s website. Apparently he was getting lots of attention because his site crashed.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Woo hoo!!!
He’ll be a hero on Fux tomorrow — but it’s Fux, so who cares?
September 9th, 2009 at 9:47 pmZooey, that would be typed in boldface will lots of exclamation points.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:47 pmI thought they were holding menus and Cantor was ordering take out.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:48 pmWonder if there will be any hangings in effigy of Rep. Joe Wilson outside his office? Just wondering.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:48 pmLawmakers Treat President Obama’s Joint Address To Congress Like A Town Hall Protest
– - Priceless
Andrew Sullivan:
But there was something clarifying about a Southern good ol’ boy yelling “Liar” at the president over illegal immigration. That’s what the GOP now is: the worst aspects of the old Democratic party combined with a nihilism that is only eclipsed by its catastrophic governance for the past eight years. Defeating these morons and actually creating a discourse for reform is what we elected Obama to do.
But they still insist on doing it to themselves, don’t they? That’s the silver lining.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:48 pmJane and Zooey, I think it was Cantor’s old 4-page bubble chart from months ago. Ya know, the one they called a press conference to present only to get laughed down.
Doubt they’ve come up with anything new. Maybe they were waving checks from insurance contributors?
PEACE
September 9th, 2009 at 9:48 pmI couldn’t help but notice at least once, when every Democrat was appluding, Max Baucus was sitting there with his hands folded.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:48 pmHa, ha, ha… now that is funny.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:49 pmI was just thinking the same thing, Zooey. By this time tomorrow Rep. Dipsh!t will be the GOP front runner for the Presidential nomination. At least according to FAUX.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:49 pmAre they holding up their one page health care reform bill?
September 9th, 2009 at 9:49 pmJane E. Schneider says:
Zooey, that would be typed in boldface will lots of exclamation points.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Palin wrote it?
September 9th, 2009 at 9:50 pmI just don’t see how it could have gone better politically for the Obama speech. Details not withstanding, the speech and the Republican rude behavior will turn this thing around. Plus Obama taking them down on the lies. This very well could be the day the that will mark the death of the Republican.
Also bonus points for the great Congressman who shouted out, “it a lie”, the media can hound him for a couple of weeks, it just doesn’t get better than this. The tide has turned.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:50 pmChubby pasty-faced slimebuckets…
By the way, the repiggie clown that gave the rebuttal baloney has been sued three times for medical malpractice.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:50 pmThe main problem the Republicans have (besides that their party is morally bankrupt) is that none of their arguments against what was floating around was coherent. Since they never had a plan of their own, and never intended to come up with one, they never had a single, solid argument against the proposals out there. They never accurately or truthfully said why something was bad, just that it was bad.
Since they have no intention of voting for any kind of reform, there is no reason to capitulate on anything! There is no reason to vote for a bill watered down by people who aren’t going to vote for the end product anyway. All you end up with is a bill that doesn’t do enough and maintains or exacerbates the problems we already have.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:53 pmbadmoodman,
I don’t like Andrew Sullivan and I never have (probably never will). He slams the republican loons by saying it’s composed of the worst aspects of the old democratic party.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:54 pmHe’s a real ahole – always has been.
I thought he hit it out of the ball park.
I loved the way he fed them their own slop in public.
Especially that weasel mccain.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:54 pmFor those who are wondering, the asshat that showed astounding disrespect for the President of the United States by shouting “Liar!” was “Joe Wilson” (no relation) of South Carolina.
To think he share the name of someone we all respect. :(
September 9th, 2009 at 9:54 pmbzb says:
Are they holding up their one page health care reform bill?
Yep, they typed it up that morning and made photocopies. If you look closely, you notice it’s a death warrant of the middle class.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:54 pm“By the way, the repiggie clown that gave the rebuttal baloney has been sued three times for medical malpractice.”
Evangenital, not to mention that he out-and-out lied about ‘government-run healthcare replacing’ people’s current private plans. He apparently didn’t bother to read the speech that he was rebutting. What a dickwad!
September 9th, 2009 at 9:55 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Dirtbag mother-frocking-wingnut snotballs. It wasn’t too long ago when simply voicing opposition to the stated policies of a president was labeled as treason, un-American, and giving aid to terrorists. So now it’s ok for flying monkeys to shout down a president addressing Congress. Joe Wilson, you are a living demonstration of what happens when a man screws his sister in a state where abortion is frowned upon.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:56 pm“…If you look closely, you notice it’s a death warrant of the middle class.”
Chessmaster, I think that the header on it was a skull-and-crossbones design. ;)
September 9th, 2009 at 9:57 pmSeems that doctor has been forced to wait in line for the cosmetic surgery to remove those f ucked up furrows in his brow…
September 9th, 2009 at 9:58 pmWhat’s the big deal? Isn’t this the same chamber where a sitting VP told a US Senator to [exlpetive deleted] himself?
September 9th, 2009 at 9:58 pmI thought those dumb a-holes were holding up copies of the “Kenyan” birth certificate reputed to be that of Obama.
This is all the GOP can do. This is it.
The repiggie party is dominated by thugs, lunatics and crooks. Which combination is Wilson?
September 9th, 2009 at 9:58 pmObama has fed them rope for a month now and tonight he kicked the stool out from under them.
Except for Joe Wilson (R-SC), he committed political suicide.
September 9th, 2009 at 9:58 pmlzcrmc says:
What’s the big deal? Isn’t this the same chamber where a sitting VP told a US Senator to [exlpetive deleted] himself?
No, that was on the Senate floor. This was the House chamber.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:00 pmGreat speech. Forceful. Passionate.
Too bad the repugniscum chose to continue to behave like juveniles at a school assembly.
As for Rove and Cavuto — we already knew they had no class, no respect, no integrity — they confirmed that. The classless, disrespectful morons who were watching them surely agreed.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:01 pmI have read the proposal that my leaders were eager to turn in like giddy school children who hadn’t done their homework in a long time. I believe in it. The plan includes a McDonald’s menu, a compromise do-it-yourself surgery kit for all vital organs for every American and a health care lottery ticket for a FREE, one time consultation to a southern teabagger physician who graduated from a tier-3 medical school.
BONUS: A mock constitution with the republican amendment “No American shall be entitled to our #37-ranked health care without that dollop of green paper” is INCLUDED!
September 9th, 2009 at 10:02 pmCantor was texting during the speech. Nice. Fitting his character.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:02 pmThe trollification of the Republican Party continues.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:03 pmYou could almost hear the Repukes thinking….if I stand and applaud will I still get my $ from the insurance lobby?
September 9th, 2009 at 10:03 pmActually, Cantor was searching on-line photos of Britney Spears.
He likes those full-figured Jezebels.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:04 pmJoe Wilson may be my new Town Hall Hero, but my party is absolutely F+UCKED!
September 9th, 2009 at 10:04 pmPalin-Wilson 2012. The Republicans have their ticket.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:05 pmI don’t recall Wilson objecting to the Bush lies about WMD’s in Iraq.
Come to think of it, I don’t recall any repiggies objecting to the massive amount of lying coming out of the Bush/Cheney White House.
Selective morality is like selective fundamentalism – an utter contradiction.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:06 pmWilson must be censured or ostracized in some way for this childish outburst.
No one did this when Bush was there lying about a war.
But Cheney told another Senator to go f u c k himself and personally helped to lower the standard — which for repugniscum, is already pretty low.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:06 pmActually, Cantor was searching on-line photos of Britney Spears.
– - I would think he was texting Mark Foley, ifyaknowwhatImean.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:06 pmThere is no amount of damage control that can fix what ails the GOP Especially after tonight. The level of disrespect, rudeness and at times ridicul on diplay by the Rethugs tonight was sad, revolting, and emblamatic of just how banckrupt the GOP is morally and intellectually.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:07 pmAnd Joe Wilson (Idiot-SC)? Wait till Pelosi gets done with him.
Bratty children at least have youth for an excuse.
Wilson should find his “office” relocated to a basement hallway for the remainder of his term, and Congressional staffers should be ordered to replenish all his desk drawers with dog poop daily.
Otherwise, I’d encourage the R’s, and Righties in general, to keep bringin’ the hissy. Just like Hillary did back in primary season, they’ll discover too late that the harder they toss tantrum, the stronger Obama gets.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:07 pmThe GOPiss in the well party is true to its principles, the party of, as Joe Scarborough puts it, dumbasses.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:08 pmThe repiggie congress critters always remind me of those 40-ish nutcases weaving in and out of interstate traffic, honking and flipping off anyone who gets in the way of their monster SUV’s.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:08 pmNow that we’ve really f’d ourselves over tonight, with Boustany not helping matters much, my party intends to shout the same 1994 talking points EXTRA hard. Teabagging dynamite. Town halls on acid.
You see, when we are confronted with facts and logic we don’t change our ways, we ratched up our antics. This president is now back on a roll and we have to scream even louder. Our alternative reality is the most beautiful thing since those great whites spotted in Massachusetts.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:09 pmShouldn’t Karl Rove and Neil Cavuto, two very prominent repiggie chubsters, have been commenting on FoxNews’ exciting “reality” show which they aired during Obama’s speech?
At least that sort of “entertainment” is within the intellectual grasp of those two dingalings.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:11 pmThe repiggies knew they couldn’t get caught on camera applauding the president cause the right wing insanity radio shows would call them out, then they would have to go kiss one very fat ass in Florida.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pmJoe Wilson is the GOPshite du jour.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means …
yer making me laugh and I’m already in a pretty good mood.
I haven’t seen senators spanked like the gop was tonight in….well, ever!
September 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pmJohn McCain said that Mr. Obama’s calling death panels a lie was to partisan.He had difficulty speaking because his head was up his a—-le.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm***
#47,
let’s not hide behind titles;
it was dick cheney who told
vermont senator pat leahy to
“go fu(k yourself!”
*
“good guy”
“lovely”
. .. …
September 9th, 2009 at 10:13 pmI stand corrected Wayne.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:15 pmI was in awe of Obama tonight as he shamed the republicans. I loved the look on their faces. They looked like children being talked to by an adult after they got caught stealing…..
September 9th, 2009 at 10:15 pmWho in the name of God would want this bunch of immature brats in charge of anything?
September 9th, 2009 at 10:16 pmThe Repukes were squiring in their seats afraid to stand and applaud for fear of Rush & glenda and the for fear of losing the grease coming from the insurance lobby simultaneously afraid not to stand and applaud for fear of not ever receiving any votes from actual citizens. FRED said it well, something about give them enough rope.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:16 pmGreat summary of the President’s speech from a Daily Dish reader:
“Allow me to sum up the President’s speech as it relates to his opponents tonight: Beep beep, motherfcukers.”
I heartily agree . . . especially poor Joe Wilson. He is already getting thrown under the bus by McNumbNuts and others.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:17 pm“Tonight’s WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD.”
September 9th, 2009 at 10:17 pmAnd I thought it was the birthright of my beloved party to NOT be completely owned by a black man ..
September 9th, 2009 at 10:18 pmI would like to see a copy of that republican proposal.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:21 pm“Tonight’s WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD.”
Every f_cking one of us. Tonight my party is partying like it’s 1855. Damnit. F-ck it. F- all of this!
September 9th, 2009 at 10:22 pmWho in the name of God would want this bunch of immature brats in charge of anything?
Um, I think Stephen Colbert rightly called them the backwash of our society …..
September 9th, 2009 at 10:23 pmRepublicans = SCUM.
Fact.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:25 pmPoor little Joe Wilson…
His governor can’t keep it in his pants, and his lieutenant governor likes to play “drop the soap” with the boys.
Neo-Confederate racism is always a comfort, in such a time of need.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:25 pm(sigh)
September 9th, 2009 at 10:27 pmAnyone at all surprised that Fox “News” would make these comments?
On Fox Business News …
I listened to what FBN had to say, on investments and the economy. As it turns out, now I can’t even afford the remote to switch the channel from FBN.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:28 pmI you want to tell Joe Wilson anything:
http://www.house.gov/formwilson/IMA/issue.htm
September 9th, 2009 at 10:28 pm***
#74,
“They looked like children being talked to by an adult after they got caught stealing…..”
**
there’s probably going to be a petition to censure wilson.
i’m going to sign it and pass it on.
i hope you do too.
thanks.
:)
September 9th, 2009 at 10:29 pmI’m vomiting everywhere!
GORGE!
GORGE!
Bees, they’re everywhere!
GORGE!
September 9th, 2009 at 10:29 pmWell, the Rethuglicans looked absolutely ridiculous tonight! The icing on the cake was Joe (dumba$$) Wilson because he confirmed where the lunatic fringe is getting their false information from. GOPers YOU LIED!
Rethugs were owned by President Obama and Wilson proved it.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:29 pmRIP Senator Kennedy – thanks again for your service!
Mr.Obama is a class act.My respose would have been to grab the MF’s throat.He was calm and gracious.Most people prefer the presidents behavior.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:30 pmHere’s the a-hole’s office number:
803-939-0041
I just tried to call – no answer.
Does anyone have the a-hole’s email address?
September 9th, 2009 at 10:30 pmPutting aside the fact that Obama’s speech was perfect in content and tone and passion, I think we should appreciate the repugniscum, especially Rep. Joe Wilson.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:31 pmThey, in their juvenile and disrespectful behavior, demonstrated for all who were watching that they are the problem. They are the ones responsible for the miserable state of our health care. They are the ones who will object and obstruct Obama just because they can, and the public be damned.
America could see tonight that the president is passionate about his advocacy for the average American; he is determined to make their lives better; and America could also see that the repugniscum are a scourge on the nation, that it is the repugniscum party at the core of the problem in health care and in Congress.
Tonight, there was an outbreak of “swine” flu at Obama’s speech.
Joe Wilson puts the “pig” in repiggie.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:33 pmWhat were those booklets the Rethugs were holding up? Comic books? New deals with their corporate masters?! They’re a bunch of jokes!
September 9th, 2009 at 10:33 pmJoe Wilson=A POS
September 9th, 2009 at 10:34 pmGO HERE to pick a link to tell Faux Noise that they are a disgrace for The United States of America and it’s citizens:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77538,00.html
September 9th, 2009 at 10:38 pmI agree Marie.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:39 pmAnd I hope everyone noticed the repugs disrespectful lack of empathy, only cheering for provisions that would benefit big healthcare,
their masters.
#87 Thanks, I told him what a disgrace he was to the south and men of good will everywhere.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:40 pmI sent the following to Joe wilson at the following website provided by someone above. Thanks for the link
http://www.house.gov/formwilson/IMA/issue.htm
September 9th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Screw Joe Wilson’s apology, he doesn’t mean a word of it. If he had ANY respect for the office of President he would have disagreed AFTER the speech.
Roast this sob, show him for what he is a dissenting, disrespectful southern Congressman.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:43 pmIt is interesting that a brief look over at Fox, I see Hannity is over there discussing Czars. They are not covering health care anymore. If really looks like they have already conceded health care loss and are moving to the next nutbar attack. I don’t think there is a better indication that Obama just won health care.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:43 pmWhat would one expect out of the rabid KKKonservanzi republiKlans? Common sense and respect. Hardly. I’m just waiting for the day when limpballs cries out the “n-word” on his hate radio program and gets away with it.
It will show the true colors of the racist republiKlans.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:46 pmHave you noticed that no one, absolutely no one, is even talking about the lame-ass rebuttal by the Louisiana repiggie, a medical doctor who has been sued at least three times for medical malpractice?
Wilson’s churlish behavior is the repiggie image tonight.
The repiggies are truly the Party of Stupid. They own it.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:47 pmJoe Wilson just did the Progressive movement a HUGE favor with his little outburst. For the next few weeks this fool, his disrespectful attitude and his lie will be disected by the media and the truth will be heard. He and his bellligerent colleagues will be unmasked for the corporate shills, charlatans and liars that they are. Maybe not on a grand scale but at least Americans with an IQ over 75. Thank you Mr. Wilson and now kindly go Cheney yourself with a stick and don’t come back until you learn to play nice with the adults. Anyone know if this @sshat is up for election next year?
September 9th, 2009 at 10:47 pmWhy would anyone call Mr. Obama a liar on this issue(undocumented aliens cannot be covered)when ,if you read HR3200,it specifically says that they are not covered?
September 9th, 2009 at 10:49 pmThey waved around their “draft bills”?
Really?
Sorry, GOP, but a few circles filled with slogans and stock photos of happy families isn’t a plan.
Well, it’s a PR plan, but it sure as hell ain’t a health care plan.
So please either come up with a serious, thoughtful, workable, helps-most-Americans plan, or just … well, STFU and go away.
You can even be mad if you want to. We really don’t care.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:49 pmWilson is just sorry that he got caught and identified.
This is a fine example of the power of internet news.
Will the lazy MSM even report on this tomorrow?
September 9th, 2009 at 10:50 pmThe GOP has to start recruiting from a more mature base. They might find fertile opportunities at a maternity ward or even a day care center.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:51 pmhttp://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/seven-falsehoods-about-health-care/
False: Illegal Immigrants Will Be Covered
One Republican congressman issued a press release claiming that “5,600,000 Illegal Aliens May Be Covered Under Obamacare,” and we’ve been peppered with queries about similar claims. They’re not true. In fact, the House bill (the only bill to be formally introduced in its entirety) specifically says that no federal money would be spent on giving illegal immigrants health coverage:
H.R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS
Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.
Also, under current law, those in the country illegally don’t qualify for federal health programs. Of interest: About half of illegal immigrants have health insurance now, according to the nonpartisan Pew Hispanic Center, which says those who lack insurance do so principally because their employers don’t offer it.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:51 pmJoe Wilson was picked by the GOP to help change the message from whatever Obama tried to change it too. Wilson is a good story for progressives to hammer the conservatives with, but the REAL story is what Obama has said.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:51 pmI wonder how many illegals Joe Wilson and his family have hired to help out at the house or at the business.
September 9th, 2009 at 10:56 pmRob Miller has now collected about $20,000 on his actblue page since Joe Wilson yelled “you lie”….
September 9th, 2009 at 10:57 pm***
#100,
my note to joe wilson:
Dear sir,
Your behavior during the the president’s speech this evening was outrageous and disgusting. You should apologize to President Obama, to the congress and to the American people. Not since Joseph McCarthy has the nation’s capital witnessed such boorish and indecent manners. I want you to know that I will support all efforts and petitions for congressional censure against you. You are a disgrace.
**
Wilson apologizes:
“This evening I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the President’s remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill. While I disagree with the President’s statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the President for this lack of civility.”
*
i guess he got the message.
:)
September 9th, 2009 at 10:57 pmI googled his name to find an email address and write him but his website is down. Does anyone have an email address for him? How could his site go down with in an hour of the speech?
September 9th, 2009 at 10:58 pmevangenital says:
Wilson is just sorry that he got caught and identified.
Don’t those idiots know you are supposed to drop a piece of paper, bend down and then yell out what ever stupid thing you want to say?
September 9th, 2009 at 10:58 pm***
#115,
fred’s link worked.
good luck and let him have it.
(but be polite!)
..
September 9th, 2009 at 11:01 pmAn Iraq War veteran named Rob Miller is running as a Dem against Joe Wilson in the upcoming election.
You can contribute money to Rob Miller’s campaign via ActBlue.
Let’s kick these repiggies in their financial nuts. That’s the sort of language they understand easily.
There is so much repiggie trash to be gotten rid of in 2010.
Let’s help to do it.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:03 pmBrought to you by the GOP and Faux News!!! What, did you think they understood what the phrase “civility” means?
September 9th, 2009 at 11:03 pmNow on to round 3: Tax reform dunh. dunh, dunh… This should be entertaining.
Hopefully this is Wilson’s “macaca moment” …..
September 9th, 2009 at 11:04 pmMy email to our President this evening:
Dear Mr. President,
Thank you so much for your great speech this evening, and for staying classy in the midst of outrageous behavior on the part of certain of your audience.
Please, sir, don’t back off from an at least acceptable public option. Too many of us are 1 paycheck or pinkslip away from healthcare disaster.
Also, sir, thank you for not dignifying the media “pundits” calling you all sorts of things (although I, personally, would not consider “socialist” an insult, as much of our public sector is and needs to be socialized!). Keep your head up, Mr. President, and know that this skinny 52-year-old white dude in Los Angeles has your back, at any and all opportunities. (and I work for a pretty conservative company… although privately, more and more people I know across the country in my firm support you each day.)
Thank you, and God Bless You, Sir!
Paul
September 9th, 2009 at 11:04 pm————————————–
Paul Julian Gould
This comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I did something I have never done before tonight: I wrote and sent an e-mail to a government official, in this case Rep. Joe Wilson R-SC. If I had any money to spare (college textbooks and tuition wiped out the spare money), I would be contributing to whomever the Democratic opposition is in 2010.
His outburst was the cherry on top of a pathetic performance by the Republican opposition tonight. It was also disgraceful and probably planned in advance. Just like every other charade this summer by an increasingly desperate Republican party.
Unfortunately, the fascist rank and file probably lapped it all up. They are probably all cheering for this disgrace of a Congressman and vocally agreeing with the explosive charges.
I can respect people who disagree with the President. I disagree with him on quite a few issues myself. However, I cannot respect people who poorly disagree and disrespect the President.
Basically, the Republican fascists.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:08 pmI’m surprised the Republicans didn’t go all South Korean Parliament and try to throw fists or furniture. Didn’t any of them Good Ole Boys think to themselves they could have blocked the doors to the chambers and had the TV cameras all to themselves?
But that would have required them to have an actual plan and a speaker to deliver it without having themselves look like something torn from Three’s Company.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:09 pmChessmaster says:
Yep, they typed it up that morning and made photocopies. If you look closely, you notice it’s a death warrant of the middle class.
great line.
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evangenital says:
I thought those dumb a-holes were holding up copies of the “Kenyan” birth certificate reputed to be that of Obama.
me to at first – in horror!
so it could have been WORSE! … it was only a fake bill… whew…
September 9th, 2009 at 11:09 pm***
so where are the trolls?
too ashamed to make an appearance?
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September 9th, 2009 at 11:09 pmBREAKING NEWS -
sounds like an apology is coming… on maddow.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:12 pmI finally got through to Wilson’s website and sent him the following email:
September 9th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
oh! i’m late with that…
September 9th, 2009 at 11:14 pmjust found the update above…
heh…
Joe @126
No doubt waiting to see what the bobbing heads at Faux have to say before they parrot the crap.
Just flat out disgusting.
Way to keep that < 20% electorate energized, gang!
Apparently the RW just can’t get themselves out of this closed loop, because each day seems to bring more and more fresh lunacy, and not taken out of context, either. How hateful to call them on their own words! /snark
September 9th, 2009 at 11:14 pmThe trolls haven’t been handed their talking points, joe. Right now Rush and Bill0 and Becky are forming them and we’ll just have to wait till they yank them out of their asses.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:14 pmjoe cantwell says:
I’m pretty sure that even Troll Central would have a hard time trying to spin this against the hated libruls.
—–
Anyone else glad that candidate Obama came back tonight instead of President Obama?
Now if only candidate Obama would show up more frequently and on more issues.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:15 pmJoe Wilson and his fellow repiggies shielded Bush and Cheney from any hecklers at all for eight long horrible years.
Repiggies really are vile beings.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:16 pmWhat is the zip code for Wilson’s district? I have a thing or two to say to that fu(ked up piece of sh!t?
September 9th, 2009 at 11:16 pm***
#128,
good for you tom.
you, sir, are a patriot.
**
who’s next to tell this america
hater where to get off?
?
September 9th, 2009 at 11:17 pm***
#132,
amen dude.
*
September 9th, 2009 at 11:18 pmNow, if Orrin Hatch and John McCain are TRULY friends of the late & great Senator Ted Kennedy – they’ll vote YES on Health Insurance reform in his memory and his honor! Put up or shut up Hatch and McCain! Or – you’re just as bad as Joe Wilson!
September 9th, 2009 at 11:18 pmRachel just reported that David Vitter has sent out a letter and survey using complete lies and asking ludicrous questions, while saying “now that we know what’s in the President’s plan”–what a POS!
September 9th, 2009 at 11:20 pm#126 I’ve wondered the same thing Joe, not a peep! I also wonder what the KEV guy at #122 is talking about. Someone please tell me, or tell me it’s crap and I should ignore it.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:21 pmOIMF @ 139 -
Dunno – kinda looks like someone’s seen “23″ a few too many times!
September 9th, 2009 at 11:23 pmKeep em coming Republicans, I want to see less of you come the next elections.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:23 pmTypical Repuglicans, no decorum, no sense of decency, rude, uncooth, totally unprofessional. Where the heck was the sergeant at arms? Any one who would show that level of disrespect, should have been shown the door. The congress should censure any one who showed disrespect to the president.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:23 pmEverybody’s out of step except the little brown-shirt stormtrooper Joe Wilson (R – Confederacy).
September 9th, 2009 at 11:25 pmWilson’s site is now “down for maintenance”. I imagine it got bombed pretty good with emails. Sure glad I got mine in before the door slammed closed.
I suspect that Wilson’s arse is also “down for maintenance”. It got reemed tonight but that is only the start. I fully expect that the moron will be formally censured on the House floor first thing tomorrow morning. Nancy will make sure of that. He’s due for a well-deserved little trip out behind the woodshed.
Glad to hear that money is pouring in to Rob Miller’s coffers as a result of this “incivility”. It’s time for Joe to go. If I were him, I’d start looking for some new health insurance coverage right now (I hope everyone in his family has a pre-existing condition). I know he does — hoof-in-mouth disease. I think that’s a genetic condition that afflicts all republicans.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:26 pm***
#139,
i agree with #140.
ig it.
:|
September 9th, 2009 at 11:27 pmWilson couldn’t hold his tongue as Obama debunked the teabaggers myths, one by one.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:28 pmHe was afraid that all of his constituents in South Carolina would realize that their own representative was deliberately deceiving them.
And just like an eight year old boy, Wilson called the president a liar, projecting his own dishonesty.
Wilson apologized for his “emotional” outburst, what he did not apologize for was being wrong.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:28 pmI think President Obama made another incredible speech and he called the reich out on their lies and distortions. And I was struck how all those ugly old asexual white guys sat on their thumbs. These are hateful people – I wonder if all the senior citizens who are so concerned about “government involvement in their medicaire” noticed that none of the repugs stood up in support of them.
Wilson is screwed. hehehehe…
September 9th, 2009 at 11:29 pmThe Repubs came across like the teabagger terrorist: booing, disruptive, disrespectful, even diddling with their Blackberries while the president seriously addressed the topic of health care for American citizens.
Bad moves, bad image, Repubs…
September 9th, 2009 at 11:30 pmDems where the hell are you? This guy Wilson should be censured. Surely, you are not going to let him get away with this total lack of respect and lack of decorum because you are afraid of the health care vote!!!!!
Ya think the Republicans would allow this to go by with just some hand wringing and saying ” oh my” ? Hell no,the Republicans would be screaming for Wilson’s scalp, not tomorrow but tonight.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:30 pmWhere did Joe Wilson think he was, the House of Commons?
September 9th, 2009 at 11:31 pmThanks, Joe. You probably gave Obama a couple of percentage points just for proving his point about the opposition.
These are the people Obama is trying to get an agreement from ?Well,well.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:33 pmHere’s another place to leave feedback about Joe Wilson –> http://www.legistorm.com/memberbio/535/Rep_Joe_Wilson.html
Please go there and leave your thoughts. I did. One pro-Wilson neanderthal posted there, too. We need to drown him out.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:34 pmRepublican from South Carolina. I wonder what sort of closeted issue he has going that we are just no yet privy to? He had a huge red herring on this one. Perhaps he is in cahoots with Mark Sanford.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:34 pmObama really called out Palin for her “death panel” lie. While 17% of Alaskans go without health insurance; Palin’s reaction was to cut and run and get her pay day before her 15 minutes expires.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:35 pmAbove the Clouds says:
Good point. Ya know, I have to credit Levi Johnston with a tad more smarts than I thought, he seems to have done a good job on Palin’s psych profile. ;)
September 9th, 2009 at 11:40 pmTom @153,
Thanks for the link. I’ve posted a rejoinder to the “bouttime” person.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:40 pmTom–I’m all over that.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:42 pm***
an angry fourth estate.
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cowards.
. … …
September 9th, 2009 at 11:42 pmJoe Wilson is a gift! They try to hide the fact that the Repugnant bastards have nothing but hate to offer, but the veneer rubbed off and the world got a glimpse of the black rotten core that defines these evil fcks.
Jesus loves you Joe, for revealing the face of the Republican scum.
I agree Zooey, F uck em all.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:42 pmjoe cantwell says (#126):
aaronk the sockpuppet is in the 9/12 thread below spouting more inane drivel.
I don’t know where the other trolls are. Given their free reign over most of the weekend, I can’t say that I miss them. :|
September 9th, 2009 at 11:43 pmJoe Wilson is a member, along with Patrick Buchanan and Orval Faubus, of the Sons of Confederate Veterans:
In 2002, the SCV was criticized in the media and by a group of SCV dissenters for the SCV’s views of Civil War history and the organization’s alleged association with neo-confederate individuals and organizations.
Joe Conason, writing in Salon, and Jason Zengerle, writing in The New Republic, have argued that the SCV has morphed from an apolitical organization dedicated to Civil War history to a politicized organization dedicated to preserving the “Lost Cause” version of the history of the Civil War and the 1861-1865 era.[20] The SCV states that “[t]he preservation of liberty and freedom was the motivating factor in the South’s decision to fight the Second American Revolution”.[3]
Civil War historian James M. McPherson has associated the SCV with the neo-confederate movement and described board members of the Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond, Virginia as “undoubtedly neo-Confederate.”
September 9th, 2009 at 11:43 pmHe further said that the SCV and their equivalent for female descendants, the United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC), have “white supremacy” as their “thinly veiled agendas.” [21]
I wonder what Rove and Cavuto–not to mention Limpballs and Becky–will say about the apology–not that it was sincere in the first place.
September 9th, 2009 at 11:45 pmAP- The contrite congressman, “expressed his apologies” to Emanuel, not the president at whom he had shouted a few hours earlier, Wilson’s office said. By that time, Wilson’s House Web site had crashed and he had taken a brutal beating on his Twitter page for breaching protocol and good manners during a presidential speech to a joint session of Congress.
Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha
September 9th, 2009 at 11:46 pmBoy these guys on the right know how to hate anyone who is not White or Right…….
September 9th, 2009 at 11:48 pmjust saw it again, on ed…
i saw a clip of lindthsy grahm, when the camera caught him -
it looked like he was about to clap, there was applause -
but then he noticed the camera and just clasped his hands…
i’d like to see a longer clip, different angle maybe,
but i think he was appropriately enthused for a split second…
and mcGRAMPS may have given him the evil eye for that…
September 9th, 2009 at 11:48 pmThis is what I sent:
Shame on you, you disrespectful thug. In a just world, you and those like you would be thrown out of Congress for your juvenile and ugly behavior.
I’m sick of ugly Republican hooliganism, and you, sir, are the poster boy for just that.
In disgust,
Oh man, that felt good. :o)
September 9th, 2009 at 11:52 pm#153: tom
Thanks! Your link worked great. Here’s what I wrote to our dear friend Mr. Wilson–
Mr. Wilson: It is a sad day when the national political well is so poisoned that a sitting member of Congress would be so lacking in respect and manners as to shout during a joint session that the democratically elected President of the United States is a liar when he is telling the truth. This kind of behavior is the reason our country is so divided and the town halls were such ridiculous and scary spectacles as they were–rude, blatent behavior by Republican elected officials just because they have not gotten their way. Suck it up, Congressman. The Democrats won the election, they have majorities in the House and Senate, and, as Cheney would say, “It is our due.”
September 9th, 2009 at 11:58 pmThanks Tom I posted my feelings as well.
September 10th, 2009 at 12:04 amI’ll keep it simple:
You Sir, are a dick.
September 10th, 2009 at 12:07 amSC boys don’t like when the negroes get uppity.
September 10th, 2009 at 12:14 amThey are garbage – all of them. Wilson is just representative of the GOP as a whole – a despicable, lying, bigoted, angry group of unethical, immoral, PIGS. All of them have played their part in the lies that have been circulating about healthcare. They care not about this country, just about bringing Obama down and their politics.
September 10th, 2009 at 12:16 amI am sure he is being praised on Faux News. Wilson is a disgrace and I don’t believe for a minute he’s sorry for what he said. They can all go to hell but even hell is too good for them.
I was able to get an email off to this Joe Wilson character as well. I was much too nice out of respect for his office. It’s a shame he couldn’t show the same respect to our President.
Amazing job by Obama tonight. This speech was a real line in the sand. Let Republicans degenerate into carnival barkers. We will get this done and once again be on the right side of history.
September 10th, 2009 at 12:19 amMy letter to Joe Wilson:
Dear Sir (and I seriously doubt if you deserve the courtesy of being called Sir),
As a former resident of South Carolina, I am appalled at your contemptuous behavior during President Obama’s speech this evening.
You may not agree with his policies, but to act as such greatly demeans the position you hold, as well as the people of South Carolina.
Your apology was weak. You should seriously consider resigning if you cannot contain your hostilities and blatant racism. In all of my 61 years, I have never seen such rabid behavior to any President, at any time. Yet, the majority of the Republicans, including YOU, are setting all time records for divisiveness.
I sincerely hope you are publicly censured by the House of Representatives, and it would be ideal justice if you were recalled from your position by the citizens of the state.
Although I don’t normally make campaign donations, and have very little cash to spare during this economic crisis – BROUGHT ON BY REPUBLICANS – I intend to send a donation to the person opposing you in the next election.
Sleep well…………if you can.
September 10th, 2009 at 12:19 am***
#’s 167, 168, 170 and 174,
great stuff, keep it up :)
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September 10th, 2009 at 12:23 am***
#173,
sorry i missed you!
:)
September 10th, 2009 at 12:24 amI feel bad now after reading all of the messages you guys sent that scum bag. Mine was short and sweet – FCUK YOU
September 10th, 2009 at 12:25 amRep. Charles Boustany, who delivered the GOP response to President Obama’s health care speech is a birther.
Guess the GOP didn’t vet him.
Check @ 20 seconds into the video
Strike One
Not only is Rep. Boustany a Birther …. he’s one of the original co-sponsors of the dreaded death panel section of the health care bill!
Strike Two
H/T LGF
September 10th, 2009 at 12:28 amit’s obvious, by the looks on the faces of those two reps sitting either
side of the jerk, that they knew what was coming…
it was so planned…
wow. what a patriot… he and all his buds also, too…
…
i shall sleep better tonight than i have in a while…
g’nite all… …
and thank you, mr. president!
now let’s get it done.
September 10th, 2009 at 12:36 am***
from alex koppelman @ salon:
“There’s some damage to Wilson himself, too. As of this post, his Democratic opponent for 2010, Rob Miller, had raised about $50,000 since the speech.”
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send a check to mr. miller if you can afford it.
:)
September 10th, 2009 at 12:45 amThere was not only Joe Wilson’s extreme rudeness but Congressman Cantor was texting on his Blackberry every time the camera was on him.
By the way, Wilson’s apology should not be accepted because it is a false statement. What Obama said is the opposite of what Wilson claimed in his apology set him off.
September 10th, 2009 at 12:46 am#178
Boustany also said something about getting rid of frivolous lawsuits. According to Olbermann Dr.Boustany has been sued 3 times for malpractice.
September 10th, 2009 at 12:48 amholy cow, joe!
blackwidow says:
Rob Miller has now collected about $20,000 on his actblue page since Joe Wilson yelled “you lie”….
September 9th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
another 30k in 2 hours!
September 10th, 2009 at 12:49 amSo, is President Obama still interested in bipartisanship?
Does Barack Obama still want to want to reach across the aisle to Republicans who want to see him shot and killed (open hunting season on Barack Obama)?
September 10th, 2009 at 12:49 amaquarius2 says:
I guess that would make it strike three!
September 10th, 2009 at 12:50 amPresident Obama once again did an excellent job.
joey believed that his fellow teabaggers would join him in interrupting the President. Looks like he stood alone in his bs.
he reminded me of the punkass punk who failed to graduate. So he comes and hides behind some chairs and yells out bs during the valedictorian’s speech. How childish and rude. I think their month of yelling crazies are over.
HAHAHAHAHAHA and what are they hold up? More blank pages?
All the repugs looked discussed and mental.
repugs are uncouth tables.
September 10th, 2009 at 12:52 am***
“good old mr. wilson!”
:)
September 10th, 2009 at 12:56 amIs Rahm Emanuel right? Imagine if a Democrat had called President Bush a liar when he told Congress about Saddam Hussein’s nonexistent weapons of mass destruction.
According to Media Matters, President Bill Clinton was booed by Republicans during four State of the Union addresses. President Bush was booed by Democrats in 2005 when he incorrectly claimed that that Social Security will be “exhausted and bankrupt” by 2042. But tonight’s outbreak of incivility does seem to be a new low for a joint session of Congress.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:04 amWaving their draft bills? Has the GOP been down so long it’s forgotten how to bring a bill to the floor? Hint: not by waving it.
Has anyone mentioned that the accusation of liar by the SC GOoPer was itself a lie? Talk about theater of the absurd.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:12 amJust listened to Nicole Sandler online AAR.
The author to Please cut the crap during hour 2 had positive things to say about the health reform bills.
Dennis Kucinch during hour 1 did not and claims Obama is supporting a give away to the health insurance industry..
Can hear the replay here – KPOJ AM at 11pm pacific time.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:12 amI’m afraid my email to the asswipe from SC wasn’t as classy as some the other people on here. This is what I sent:
Your behavior during President Obama’s speech tonight was a disgrace. You are a disrespectful schmuck and a moron. Do the country and yourself a huge favor and resign immediately. Disgusting racist pigs like you do not belong anywhere near the Congress of the United States.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:13 am“Joe Wilson, good guy,” said Rove
How Ironic.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:16 amHow long shall it be before there are fingers that get bit off, on the House floor?
September 10th, 2009 at 1:25 amUPDATE:
This defeat Joe Wilson site raised $66,902 so far. Most of it since his ‘liar’ comment.
http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/19079
http://i30.tinypic.com/t9e71z.gif
September 10th, 2009 at 1:30 amthis is a bitter battle. Republican fundamental think that there are too many people. The bottom line is that they DO NOT want people to live. that why they vote to take away doctors education funding, hospital funding, and send thousands of people to war. They want less people.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:31 amWilson’s outburst is a major breach of protocol. The uncivil behavior has moved Congress further away from the civility that existed before 1994. This does not bode well for State of the Union addresses to Congress. The failure by Republicans to denounce what happened is acquiescence to the behavior. A Republican president may find himself in the same situation. It is time for both parties to back away from this sort of behavior toward the President or other members of the government. If McCain and some of the other Republican leaders do not move to stop similar behavior, the sessions of Congress may turn into barroom brawls. Any Republican who thinks that this kind of conduct is permissible will find that Republican presidents will receive similar treatment. I should think that the Republican leadership would want to stop any further breaches of protocol.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:35 amOh, those were draft bills the repugs were waving around?
September 10th, 2009 at 1:39 amI thought they were just fanning away the flies that were drawn to that side of the room……..
#196 You’d be counting on a breed of republican which has almost gone entirely extinct. Their simian successors are exhibiting a creepy sort of reverse Darwinism.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:46 am***
ot,
six more advertisers
tell becky to f’ off.
:)
September 10th, 2009 at 1:53 am.
Q U E S T I O N:
Is Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) thinks the President is lying that the reform will NOT include illegal immigrants, then is Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) FOR it?
.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:09 am.
I didn’t start calling them the G(no)P for nothing…
… I’m glad they don’t disappoint.
LIE-CHEAT-STEELE
Your NEW G(no)P!
.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:12 am.
Lastly,
I thought we’re still at war.
.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:12 amSouth Carolinians have never gotten over the fact that their entire, rebelious, pro-slavery State was burned to the ground by patriotic Americans.
Joe Wilson (R-SC) represents that never-ending hatred and anger.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:22 amFile tonight episode of the GOP party: Republican Gomorrah
I think the real GOP lawmakers were abducted by alien because the GOP that were sitting in their seats were really from Planet Wingnuttia. Some of highlights:
1. Boner and the crew look heavy medicated tonight.
2. Britney Cantor was caught on teevee playing with his blackberry while Obama was speaking.
3. The stunned look on Boner and the Party of No’s face when Obama chastized those idiots on playing politics with the healthcare reform especially on the distorted lies on the death panels was simply priceless.
Otherwise, great speech from the heart by Obama as the Obama was speaking to the Party of No children as if he was their parent. The GOP acted tonight like a bunch of adult babies that ought to be wearing rubber diapers. Glad Obama gave them upfront notice that they will be called out i they play politics with the healthcare reform bill. The late Senator Kennedy who was probably there in spirit would be proud of Obama.
This is not going to be easy but Obama let the GOP and the public know where he stands. Finally, Rep. Joe Wilson’s rude remark to Obama tonight will not go away since this is the first time that anyone will disrespect a President at a news conference especially at s joint address with Congress. Van Jones’ scandal has taken a back seat. Although Wilson was made to apologize, too little too late. He made the history books. Can’t turn back time. And Wilson had to be from South Carolina as if there is enough problems in that state with lovesick Guv Sanford.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:29 amUpdate from DailyKos re: Joe Wilson
As of 11:15 p.m. PDT, ActBlue has tallied $72,178 for Rob Miller, Wilson’s foe in the next election. Kossacks for Democrat Rob Miller have raised $38,474 of that total.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:34 amFrom the movie,”The Right Stuff”
“We got two kinds of customers in here, Fighter jocks and Pudknockers. What’ll you have, Pudknocker? (Wilson)
September 10th, 2009 at 2:42 amOver 200+ comments and I haven’t read them all, so sorry if this sentiment was already posted.
While Wilson’s comment was stupid and disrespectful it was not so simply because he made it in the joint session speech, and to the president. I would have LOVED for someone to have stood up during Bush’s numerous speeches before congress and called him out on the lies that he was spouting.
Don’t respect power, respect the truth. Apparently the democrats respect power, and the republicans (Wilson included) respect the eerie voices in their heads that have no basis in reality.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:43 amYou don’t have to like the guy but this isn’t an open forum nor is it a town hall meeting. The president… the leader of the United States was making a speech, addressing the issues. President Obama asked for ideas from everyone on this matter. Maybe the Republicans can finally come up with some instead of whining.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:54 amDamn. Why did this have to happen the same week Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are off.
And Wilson’s sorry my ass. Shame that a Senator needs to take a lesson from a Disney movie. Thumper’s dad would have thumped the hell out of him for that.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:10 amThe reactions from the South Carolina lawmaker of Wilson’s rude outburst to Obama? From CNN:
1. House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn, D-South Carolina:
“I was always taught that the first sign of a good education is good manners. I think that what we saw tonight was really bad manners,” he said. “And, having a spirited debate is one thing, exercising bad manners is another. That was beyond the pale — and I would hope that he would publicly apologize on that same floor to the president of the United States for that insult.”
2. Lady Graham: “The president’s combative tone did not justify a member of Congress shouting out, ‘You lie,’ ” said Graham. “Our nation’s president deserves to be treated with respect. It was an inappropriate remark, and I am glad an apology has been made.”
3. South Carolina Democratic Party Chair Carol Fowler:
“Once again a South Carolina Republican has embarrassed our state,” Fowler’s office said in a statement that referred to S.C. Gov. Mark Sanford’s extramarital affair.
“Never has any member of Congress shown such disrespect for the president during a speech,” Fowler wrote. “One would think that as a member of the military, Joe Wilson would have more respect and patriotism than he displayed tonight. When Congressman Wilson insulted President Obama, he also insulted the American public. Joe Wilson is a poor example of a statesman and an American. He owes an apology to the president and the American people.”
An embarrassment cloud over the South Carolina. Stay classy, Joe.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:54 amNo surprise here. Republicans are mostly white males with poor impulse control.
Death Panel
September 10th, 2009 at 5:32 amhttp://joewilsonisyourpreexistingcondition.com/
September 10th, 2009 at 6:12 amThe silence from trolldom belies their bloody hands in ALL this.
Reap what ye sow, stupid- losers of all foreseeable elections.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:50 amBeing from Minnesota I’m just glad the idiot wingnut wasn’t from my state this time.
I was really worried that bat shit Bachmann was going to stand up and slit her wrists, thou she could do that today and I’d be OK with that.
September 10th, 2009 at 7:23 amUh oh. Joe Wilson had it coming…
http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2009/09/10/rep-joe-wilson-south-carolina/
September 10th, 2009 at 7:30 amThe truly sad thing about Joe Wilson’s asinine remark is that the people he represents elected him and apparently approve of what he says. Remember this is South Carolina where Fux News is on in every hotel, bar, and restaurant that has electricity, and where the KKK is alive and well and that gave us Strom Thurmond. Can we expect any less? The arguments earlier in the thread about this being political suicide for Wilson are false. He was feeding red meat to the hyenas he represents. For Wilson, he just got himself re-elected last night.
September 10th, 2009 at 7:54 amBanana Republicans
September 10th, 2009 at 7:56 amWhen Obama stated that his door is always open for serious suggestions the crybabies held up waved their “proposals”. I know he would never go “off message” during a speech such as this but wouldn’t it have been priceless if he called them out on their theatrics?
“You there, what’ve you got there? A Republican proposal? You want me to take a look at it? How about right now, pass it up here! (GOPer reluctantly complies and sculks off) Hmm, let’s see…first page is just a doodle of me dressed as Hitler, niiiicccee(snickering from Rep side of the Chamber).(Turns page) Page three just has the word NO in bold type, repeated over the next three pages, great. What’s this part here say, “tax breaks for the wealthy”? Ha, ha now THAT’s a good one, haven’t heard that before. The next two pages are blank… (flipping through)…oh here’s something…nope, just a sketch of some boobies and bombs.
September 10th, 2009 at 8:17 am(Addressing GOP side)Well, I see you have done some hard work here. I’ll just take this proposal back to my office and go over it a bit more and one of my staffers will get back to you with any questions.
Call Joe Wilson today to tell him he’s a fascist Pig:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×6504554
September 10th, 2009 at 8:20 amOne last thought:
Sen. Wilson may have just done us all a huge favor by showing the rest of America (and notably President Obama, who was clearly taken aback by the outburst) just who these people really are. And may repel many moderate opponents not wanting to be seen as “one of them”.
The level of disrespect has been astounding, and should help ensure their minority status for the next decade.
September 10th, 2009 at 8:34 amRemember this is South Carolina where Fux News is on in every hotel, bar, and restaurant that has electricity, and where the KKK is alive and well and that gave us Strom Thurmond.
BTW, are you aware that Little Joey Wilson was a staffer in Thurmond’s office in the early 80s? It all starts to make sense now, doesn’t it?
September 10th, 2009 at 8:35 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
aww, poor midas, still upset that he can’t understand the simplest concepts
please go study and, when you grow up, come back and maybe you can discuss it with the adults
hint: listening to Limpballs lie on the radio is not studying
September 10th, 2009 at 8:45 amMidas says:
The question one should ask, is the federal government under B.O.’s plan going to force U.S. taxpaygers to redistribute their hard earned dollars to illegals that should be deported IMMEDIATELY from this country?
Doctors will not turn these illegals in to be deported nor refuse them medical treatment. The latter is inconsistent with their Hippocratic oath. Anyone who shows up in the emergency room will get some care, and the only question is the extent.
September 10th, 2009 at 8:53 amMidas, first off let me say that it is NOT Obama’s plan. The Bill is written, negotiated and conceived in both the Senate and Congress (as if you didn’t know that already. “Obamacare” just sounds better to Repubs, no?)
Secondly, WHAT THE FU(K ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Where in any of the proposals does it discuss redistributing wealth to illegal immigrants you ignorant fool? You are aware that RIGHT NOW in America illegal aliens have access to healthcare through a bi-partisan sponsored Bill from several years ago right? Oh you didn’t know that huh? The current Bill being floated on the Hill presently clearly states that illegals WILL NOT be able to participate in the option. What don’t you idiots get about that? Is it too difficult for you to read ONE SENTENCE in a Bill that is publicly available to see before parroting lies that charlatans like Wilson feed you? You are truly ignorant (aside from your apparent racism). With a moniker like yours it’s no wonder that EVERYTHING the GOP touches turns to shit.
September 10th, 2009 at 8:56 am#222 – Midas says:
————————————————————”But wait…the president has a bunch of experience on running a business and working in the private sector. What was he? Oh, that’s right…he was a “community organizer”"
September 10th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Remember, Jesus was a “community organizer”. Pontius Pilate was a governor. Which of these two would you hand the keys to the US Treasury?
From your proven gullibility in believing right-whiner lies, I’m sure you would rush to hand the keys to Pontius Pilate.
Pres. Obama has stated, unequivicably, that illegal aliens would not be universally covered under health care reform. What, you believe that only Republican Presidents tell the truth? You know, like how Iraq was reesponsible for Sept. 11th, and they had stockpiles of WMDs?
Seriously, you need to educate yourself before you fly off the handle with calumny and mendacity.
September 10th, 2009 at 8:57 am… so let’s now give him the keys to the U.S. Treasury so he can take from people that work hard and produce and give it to people that grow up in an entitlement mindset.
He’s talking about the inherited rich. But he doesn’t know it. Irony.
The problem for the conservative movement is that every time one gets into office, he quits being conservative. Nixon, Reagan, Bush jr. all ramped up the debt on useless things. Conservatism is a scam, for the easily gulled. The American people have awakened to it, and now reject it.
September 10th, 2009 at 9:00 amOne side of the isle is evolved and diverse, and the other is mainly white, southern, except for their token minority Eric Cantor. I don’t know about all of you, my fellow progressives, but I went to bed a happy camper. Feel revived after all the moronic behaviour from last month.
September 10th, 2009 at 9:05 amMidas says
September 10th, 2009 at 8:41 am
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I suspect Midas is typical of the teabagging set — they are going to continue to perpetuate their false talking points even though President Obama neatly debunked them all in his speech.
But, of course, Midas and his ilk probably didn’t even listen to the speech.
September 10th, 2009 at 9:05 am#226 – Looks like I need some more education myself. Shold have been “unequivocally” and “responsible”.
The difference is that I know I’m not perfect. Most of the right-whiners with which I’ve had the misfortune to interact think they are perfect.
I wonder if Midas would rather continue with the “death panels” that the privately-run insurance companies have in place, where life-saving procedures are turned down because the Insurance companies want to maintain a profit margin? I’m sure he (she?) would be fine with dying if his insurance company turned down his procedure because they wanted to save the money.
September 10th, 2009 at 9:09 amThe lack of class and rapid digression of the GOP was evident even in their body language. I used to point a finger and say “These morons are acting like a bunch of unruly junior high students”. Now,I wish they would grow up to be at a junior high level! Rachael Maddow has described it simply, but descriptively; ” The Democrats are the adults in the room”. No matter what the GOP says or does they are nothing but a bunch of babies and bullies! Two qualities not to be admired in a leadership role!
September 10th, 2009 at 9:24 ammisscoleopteramolly says:
I suspect Midas is typical of the teabagging set — they are going to continue to perpetuate their false talking points even though President Obama neatly debunked them all in his speech.
Probably. There is an old saying: Never teach a pig to sing–it is a waste of time and annoys the pig.
September 10th, 2009 at 9:28 amNo Doubt Joe Wilson is hailed as a “hero” by the nutter freepers and that ilk. I did get a kick out of the looks on the pubs faces.. they looked like they were trying to force out a big hard turd. I’m thinking it is time to DUMP the pubs on healthcare reform and do what the majority of Americans want.
September 10th, 2009 at 9:35 amI think they misquoted Rahm. I believe what he actually said was “Listen here you little $%&*#s: No $#@!ing President has ever had this %@#$ happen, and I demand that this mother%$#@$% apologize immediately!
September 10th, 2009 at 9:36 amThe GOP will keep the 21% of America that loves to hate.
September 10th, 2009 at 9:57 amNo thinking American would continue to vote GOP after last night’s shameful spectacle.
I don’t care what McCain thinks…or Chuck Todd, or Joe Scardude.
It was offensive to Americans.
He should resign. What is wrong with those folks in the Carolina’s
September 10th, 2009 at 10:16 amI hope Pelosi throws her shoes at him the next time congress is in session.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:19 amThe GOP have been acting like spoiled brats since they lost the election. They are acting shamefully and are a disgrace to America and their actions are bordering on treasonous.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:41 amHow dare they disrespect OUR president! Ignorant b@stards!!
CONTURD/ Republi-SCUM World ™ – up = down. Balck is White. The public are ignorant, stupid shills to be manipulated. Cutting taxes on the Rich creates jobs.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:51 amDeregulation doesn’t result in S&L failures and downfall of the economic system.
Eye-Rack had WMD, and were involved in 9/11.
Privatization of military and Diplomatic Security is a Good Thing ™ as is privatization of essential wartime services, like contracting electrical wiring of Military Quarters in the Middle East to retards who don’t understand proper grounding practice.
$100 for 10- articles of clothing is moral, just (thanks, KBR, and Thanks, Dick)
Torture is OK, as long as we do it, and won’t affect how OUR soldiers get treated if captured.
It’s OK for non- serving pieces of shit like Cheney and Chimpy send OPP (other People’s Kids) off to die in their misguided ‘good little wars’ as long as it ain’t their own.
And it’s OK to get the stupid masses to fight healthcare reform they don’t want to understand by spreading silly, childish, crazy- ass lies in service of their Corporate Masters.
Preznit’s a Manchurian candidate- when they set off the chip in his head, them mullahs are gunna take over WalMart.
Gummint’s gunna take are guns away.
Illegal wetbacks are gunna get welfare and Social Security.
Update, less than 15 hours after The presidents speech ended Wilson’s opponant has recieved over 100,000 dollars in campaign donations.
I wish more republicans had shown their true colors last night.
Obama hit it out of the park.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:56 amOh and wilsons site has officially crashed…..heh.
good work progressives. Show these thugs the door.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:57 amTypical behavior from a Fascist/Racist.
Republicans left in that fringe cult are all fascists/Racists.
Liberals better realize that these folks are at war. Time to put your war face on liberals cause your opposition is akin to Neo-Nazis.
The 18%er’s are evil and need to be treated as such.
September 10th, 2009 at 11:47 amRespect the liar.
If medicare is this great, well-oiled government run health care plan, why does it have so much waste to be cut? Why is it basically bankrupt?
Any new health care plan will not add to the national deficit? Really? LMAO.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:18 pm***
#243,
why don’t you ask him?
:)
September 10th, 2009 at 3:47 pmAfter Obama’s speech, chief of staff Rahm Emanuel reportedly “approached two Republican House leaders, Roy Blunt and Paul Ryan and said, ‘No president has ever had that happen,’ and urged them to have the lawmaker ‘apologize immediately.’”
B.S. My, they have a short memory in Wash. DC.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:20 pmRespect the liar.
If medicare is this great, well-oiled government run health care plan, why does it have so much waste to be cut? Why is it basically bankrupt?
Any new health care plan will not add to the national deficit? Really? LMAO
Because it, like Social Security, is run by people, so of course the system isn’t going to be perfect. There will always be room for improvement for Medicare, but all in all, it’s still a good program. On a side note,
September 10th, 2009 at 5:21 pmSocial Security is in trouble basically because there are more people drawing benefits from it that people who are putting money into it. Besides, Social Security will not be come bankrupt until 2041, which means that there’s enough time to fix it, and I think medicare is the same way, but I can’t remeber what year it’s supposed to run out of money (2040/2041?), but it can still be fixed. I know I went off on a tangent, but I kinda figued that someone would bring Social Security up as another example of “government waste”.
*figured
September 10th, 2009 at 5:23 pmIf the congress were under social security instead of a separate pension, there is no way the program would run out of money.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:25 pmIt’s time for congress to replace their pension with social security.
(Yes, I can dream.)
kwsventures says:
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After Obama’s speech, chief of staff Rahm Emanuel reportedly “approached two Republican House leaders, Roy Blunt and Paul Ryan and said, ‘No president has ever had that happen,’ and urged them to have the lawmaker ‘apologize immediately.’”
B.S. My, they have a short memory in Wash. DC.
Does this have anything to do with the time when Harry Reid called Bush a bad name (can’t remember what it was)? Both sides are equally guilty, and no president, bush or obama, should not be treated with disrespect like that.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:28 pmIf the truth showed itself, they would be holding up fistfuls of cash and McDonald’s Happy Meal certificates given to them by insurance, hospital, medical lobbyists.
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Fontsdeleon says:
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If the truth showed itself, they would be holding up fistfuls of cash and McDonald’s Happy Meal certificates given to them by insurance, hospital, medical lobbyists.
lol…. and they would probably try to explain it away by saying that the lobbyists invoked their 1st amendment rights and this counts as symbolic speech, blah, blah, blah. Sheesh, they make a huge fuss over the 2nd and 10th amendment but for some reason they don’t seem to care about the 8 amendments, because those are the ones that give us…..civil liberties? I guess they care morew about guns and states rights than personal freedoms and privacy.
September 10th, 2009 at 11:54 pmMALPROP: So the “waving of a bill”? Thanks to TPM, there is a copy of the YET TO BE SUBMITTED HCR bill (by Price of Georgia). As it is 200+ pages, they must have been waving only parts of it.
As I have not completed the slog thru it, they also have a 3 page Summary which excludes the critical ideas that should concern anyone with more than 2 children as it only allows for a $500.00 tax credit for each, limit 2.
It should be noted that it is not a complete bill but an amendment to current legislation, which makes all their “additions and changes” very difficult to evaluate.
But to be sure, it is a boom to Private Insurer’s and Physicians. Create “high risk pools” with no stated limit on the cost of premiums for those with pre-existing conditions. No mechanism to control cost of premiums. Payment to physician is based on specialty (which will continue the trend of those Family Practioners). And of course a provision to opt-out of all the government backed plans: Medicare, Medicaid, Tri-Care and VA….but of course they say they don’t want to end these programs, much like the previous administrations call to reduce funding to these programs (which would force them to insolvency), especially because they will re-institute the “trigger” mechanism that was eliminated in 2009 (which had not gone into effect – another rule courtesy of GWB).
This bill addresses the amount of $$$ for malpractice Punity Damages…max. of $250K and protects manufacturer’s of devices and drugs from malpractice if the drug/device has been approved by the FDA. It fails to address the these devices/drugs being used off-label, which is often the case in Medicare fraud…see DOJ Press released for monthly listing of cases prosecuted on exactly that!
At least now I know why they didn’t actually SUBMIT the bill, because even the right wing extremists might understand how they are being played! ATTACK WITH IGNORANCE! and for goodness sake – DON’T READ how we (the GOP) want to screw you
September 11th, 2009 at 10:26 amblood1 says:
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MALPROP: So the “waving of a bill”? Thanks to TPM, there is a copy of the YET TO BE SUBMITTED HCR bill (by Price of Georgia). As it is 200+ pages, they must have been waving only parts of it.
As I have not completed the slog thru it, they also have a 3 page Summary which excludes the critical ideas that should concern anyone with more than 2 children as it only allows for a $500.00 tax credit for each, limit 2.
It should be noted that it is not a complete bill but an amendment to current legislation, which makes all their “additions and changes” very difficult to evaluate.
But to be sure, it is a boom to Private Insurer’s and Physicians. Create “high risk pools” with no stated limit on the cost of premiums for those with pre-existing conditions. No mechanism to control cost of premiums. Payment to physician is based on specialty (which will continue the trend of those Family Practioners). And of course a provision to opt-out of all the government backed plans: Medicare, Medicaid, Tri-Care and VA….but of course they say they don’t want to end these programs, much like the previous administrations call to reduce funding to these programs (which would force them to insolvency), especially because they will re-institute the “trigger” mechanism that was eliminated in 2009 (which had not gone into effect – another rule courtesy of GWB).
This bill addresses the amount of $$$ for malpractice Punity Damages…max. of $250K and protects manufacturer’s of devices and drugs from malpractice if the drug/device has been approved by the FDA. It fails to address the these devices/drugs being used off-label, which is often the case in Medicare fraud…see DOJ Press released for monthly listing of cases prosecuted on exactly that!
At least now I know why they didn’t actually SUBMIT the bill, because even the right wing extremists might understand how they are being played! ATTACK WITH IGNORANCE! and for goodness sake – DON’T READ how we (the GOP) want to screw you
Gee, what a suprise; protect insurance and drug companies from malpractice lawsuits companies (and increase the insurance premiums/profits). What else is new?
September 11th, 2009 at 10:50 amblood1 says:
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MALPROP: So the “waving of a bill”? Thanks to TPM, there is a copy of the YET TO BE SUBMITTED HCR bill (by Price of Georgia). As it is 200+ pages, they must have been waving only parts of it.
As I have not completed the slog thru it, they also have a 3 page Summary which excludes the critical ideas that should concern anyone with more than 2 children as it only allows for a $500.00 tax credit for each, limit 2.
It should be noted that it is not a complete bill but an amendment to current legislation, which makes all their “additions and changes” very difficult to evaluate.
But to be sure, it is a boom to Private Insurer’s and Physicians. Create “high risk pools” with no stated limit on the cost of premiums for those with pre-existing conditions. No mechanism to control cost of premiums. Payment to physician is based on specialty (which will continue the trend of those Family Practioners). And of course a provision to opt-out of all the government backed plans: Medicare, Medicaid, Tri-Care and VA….but of course they say they don’t want to end these programs, much like the previous administrations call to reduce funding to these programs (which would force them to insolvency), especially because they will re-institute the “trigger” mechanism that was eliminated in 2009 (which had not gone into effect – another rule courtesy of GWB).
This bill addresses the amount of $$$ for malpractice Punity Damages…max. of $250K and protects manufacturer’s of devices and drugs from malpractice if the drug/device has been approved by the FDA. It fails to address the these devices/drugs being used off-label, which is often the case in Medicare fraud…see DOJ Press released for monthly listing of cases prosecuted on exactly that!
At least now I know why they didn’t actually SUBMIT the bill, because even the right wing extremists might understand how they are being played! ATTACK WITH IGNORANCE! and for goodness sake – DON’T READ how we (the GOP) want to screw you
Gee, what a suprise; the HCR bill proposed by the rethugs does nothing to protect consumers and protects insurance/ drug companies instead from malpractice lawsuits and actually leads to increased premiums for us, which means the insurance companies will make more money. What else is new?
September 11th, 2009 at 10:53 amoops, sorry about that; grr computers suck sometimes….
September 11th, 2009 at 10:55 amI laughed watching Peelosi act like a jack-in-the box sucking on a lifesaver, does she know what a clown she is! And Joey B. looked like he was on a time-delay.
September 12th, 2009 at 4:40 pmThank you for your sharing.!
September 13th, 2009 at 11:23 amA letter being circulated around Capitol Hill is encouraging GOP lawmakers to stand behind Wilson. kol germe estetigi
September 15th, 2009 at 8:38 am