Right-wing group sponsoring Republican doctors rally supports privatizing Medicare.
Right-wing group sponsoring Republican doctors rally supports privatizing Medicare.
The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a right-wing group that filed an amicus brief supporting Rush Limbaugh in his fight to keep his medical records private amid charges of doctor-shopping to obtain pain medication, was present with a booth at the FreedomWorks rally on Capitol Hill today. AAPS is sponsoring another event this afternoon with Republican leaders, including Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) and Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA). ThinkProgress caught up with an AAPS staffer, who explained that the group not only opposes health reform, but also supports privatizing Medicare:
Q: So you prefer a privatization of Medicare?
AAPS: Of Medicare? [...] Yes. We don’t think it’s very efficient at all.
Watch it:
The AAPS booth was busy making “homemade” protest signs and passing out invitations to a National Republican Campaign Committee reception at the NRCC’s fundraising offices in DC. View the invitation the AAPS handed out here.
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Did anyone else notice that the Republicans were silent when Obama promised to never privatize Medicare as long as he is in office? They have been wanting to privatize Medicare for almost 40 years. It would be one more money grab from the American taxpayers.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:19 pmThere’s a “Death Panel” for ya.
Or do we not call it that when it’s wingers letting poor old people die?
September 10th, 2009 at 6:21 pmSurgeons… now there’s a group that can be trusted to give patients options. The only option a surgeon offers is surgery. These people want to steal the taxpayers money just like Wall Street did.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:22 pmtombaker says:
There’s a “Death Panel” for ya.
Or do we not call it that when it’s wingers letting poor old people die?
See they call it “meeting your maker panel” and its head are the non-doctor types more of the religious types.
but its good old american death panels.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:24 pmCats r Flyfishn says:
Surgeons… now there’s a group that can be trusted to give patients options. The only option a surgeon offers is surgery. These people want to steal the taxpayers money just like Wall Street did.
And “tort reform” to cover their incompetent brethren.
Flesh mechanics, who could care less if the patient dies afterword, so long as they get paid.
Remember “the operation was a success – but the patient died” is their worldview.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:26 pmInteresting. There is a segment of Medicare that is privatized today. Well, not exactly privatized because it’s paid for in full by We the People, but it’s run privately. It’s callled Medicare Advantage, and it’s a boondoggle for BigInsurance. Costs us taxpayers tens of billions of dollars more per year than covering these same seniors under traditional Medicare, and Obama vowed to do away with the excess payments should he win, but hey, why start holding BigInsurance accountable now?
PEACE
September 10th, 2009 at 6:26 pmThat’s what Health Care Reform would do, eliminate wasteful spending in some areas of Medicare.
Sheesh! Where have this A**holes been all this time?
September 10th, 2009 at 6:28 pmIf you privatize it that means you don’t need to care what happens to it. I’m onto it; it sounds fun. A few social security recipients will become rich and the rest will become road kill. Hands-off sounds great. By the way, did you know that Obama wants to cut social security?
September 10th, 2009 at 6:32 pmWhen my son was 5 months old, he had extensive neurosurgery to correct his craniosynistosis (premature fusion of the cranial sutures). I was concerned about how much my AT&T coverage would cover at the time, but was willing to sell my soul to provide my son a normal future. The neurosurgeon told me not to worry about cost; whatever the insurance paid would be payment in full. There are not too many of these doctors and/or surgeons left.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:32 pmThis doubling down on not supporting the public option.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:33 pmI guess they don’t think that the obscene profits and legal theft of US citizens dollars by the private health corporations is enough.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:35 pm***
yep, that’s what i want all republican
candidates to do in 2010;
run on a platform to privatize medicare.
:)
September 10th, 2009 at 6:35 pmYou’ve got to wonder about the sanity of the right wing. I think they’ve completely lost their marbles. Their only two legitimate demographics are racist morons and old fools. If they keep on talking about privatizing Medicare and how Social Security and Medicare are unconstitutional I’m guessing they’ll even lose some of their old fools.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:44 pmSkyler says:
When my son was 5 months old, he had extensive neurosurgery to correct his craniosynistosis (premature fusion of the cranial sutures). I was concerned about how much my AT&T coverage would cover at the time, but was willing to sell my soul to provide my son a normal future. The neurosurgeon told me not to worry about cost; whatever the insurance paid would be payment in full. There are not too many of these doctors and/or surgeons left.
I am very happy for you and your son. And that neurosurgeon is a noble example of the medical profession. Why are any doctors opposed to a public option anyway? What do they care, they didn’t get into the profession to whine about a payment system, did they? It’s nothing in the way of contributing their skills to humanity. Presently, the private insurance system leaves a lot of paper work in the way; they should complain about that.
May the tough times your son faced lead to a strengthened lifetime bond between the two of you.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:45 pmprivatization of Medicare
Code for : We are not ripping off the public enough
We don’t think it’s very efficient at all.
Code for : We are not ripping off the public enough.
I think I see a pattern here.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:47 pmDo they really think they have a chance in he// to privatize Medicare?
September 10th, 2009 at 7:03 pmwhy is it none of the people interviewed look like they’ve been to med school? hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm
September 10th, 2009 at 7:11 pmThis is what the progressive TV talk show hosts like Ed, Rachel and others should do :
1. Show the interview again and again, and say repeatedly that the Regressives want to privatize Medicare
2. In any interview with a Regressive guest, ask them the reason why their party wants to privatize Medicare
3. Keep beating the drums – Ed reporting what Rachel said, Rachel repeating what Ed said, other radio hosts echoing what those two said, and on and on. Keep the issue going.
However, they won’t do that! So the issue dies a natural death within a few hours! :-(
Therein lies the reason why the progressives keep on failing!
September 10th, 2009 at 7:11 pmWait just a minute,…..
A group that filed a brief that’s meant to protect prescription drug abusers,(Rush) is looking out for the best interests of Americans ?
yeah right.
September 10th, 2009 at 7:11 pmSo this is there next attempt to bankrupt senior citizen. This is just asi9 and we all know this will never work.
September 10th, 2009 at 7:15 pmAAPS believes Medicare, with it’s 3% overhead is inefficient. They’d rather we have a private insurance-based system with it’s much more efficient 15 to 30% overhead.
Would it be too much to expect conservative seniors to listen to this little a-hole AAPS staffer and think about how much they’d love losing their Medicare if these people had their way?
September 10th, 2009 at 7:18 pmNot only do they want to privatize Medicare-they want to get rid of unions, social security, unemployment insurance, food stamps,every social program. They want the fire Dept, Police, highways–everything private. That is how the he Bible tells them to govern. Take a look at this site. Only one of the hundreds of think tanks and religious based 501(3)(C) that are tax-exempt. This is their mission. They are all tied up with churches and homeschooling.
September 10th, 2009 at 7:21 pmhttp://www.americanvision.org/about/introduction/
Start looking up Christian Nationalism, Dominionism, Revisionism–all familiar names, ties to think tanks, and religious organizations.
#14, What the GOP Really means… that surgeon was more than noble. Dr. Robert Fraser, Director of Neurosurgery at Cornell Medical Center, NY was a truly caring human being. He was a gifted surgeon who gave his gift, without pretense or want of return, freely. I walked my infant son to the doors of the operating room and handed him over to Dr. Fraser’s care. Dr. Fraser hugged me, while cradling my young son, and said that he’d take care of him as if he was his own son. I owe that man more than anyone can know. My son, today, is a stapping, normal 16YO boy with no neurological damage (just a few lumps on his head). Today’s doctors need to take lessons from this unselfish man, who is now retired.
September 10th, 2009 at 7:25 pmright, because seniors living on a fixed income can really afford to shell out better than a grand a month for health insurance. talk about “death panels”
September 10th, 2009 at 7:26 pmGreat to read, Skyler. I bet Dr. Fraser wasn’t running his mouth about tort reform, just focusing on doing the best job he could and treating patients like humans. Can’t say the same for idiots like Dr. Charles Boustany.
September 10th, 2009 at 7:30 pmPrivatize Medicare so their low administrative costs can become more like that of private health insurers who can then say, “See!”
September 10th, 2009 at 7:35 pmIf only all of the screamers at town halls were fully aware(and in their right minds) of what the Rethuglicans really want to do to their Medicare. They want their hands on your Medicare so they can privatize it screaming seniors! How do you feel about that?!
September 10th, 2009 at 7:36 pmjoe cantwell @ 12 – I’d love it if they did!
September 10th, 2009 at 7:37 pm#25, that man is NO doctor. He is in the business soley to increase his bottom line and cares nothing about the people he treats, or the lives he affects.
September 10th, 2009 at 7:37 pmapparently none of these clowns have a j-o-b or they wouldn’t be out on a thursday afternoon on capitol hill with their homemade signs. bunch of pathetic welfare queens.
September 10th, 2009 at 7:38 pmYeah, these right-wing medicos want Congress/Govt to “stop meddling in medicine” but not before Congress meddles sufficiently in medical malpractice suits as to outlaw them. They don’t want Congress/Govt coming between patients and their doctors except when it’s injured patients trying to recover appropriate damages from their incompetent or careless doctors.
September 10th, 2009 at 7:39 pmVan Jones was right….republicans are a8sholes!
September 10th, 2009 at 7:39 pmI’d love to know how many ‘doctors’ who are part of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons actually got their doctorate online like Orly Taitz got her degrees?
September 10th, 2009 at 7:41 pmkay@33
September 10th, 2009 at 7:44 pmi love the fact oily taint has become one of the new faces of the gop…considering she looks like a dollar store drag queen crackwhore.
LMAO @ 34 my stomach hurts :D
September 10th, 2009 at 8:07 pmBozo @34 – you are too HI-larious!
September 10th, 2009 at 8:22 pmThat earnest young woman is young enough to be my daughter…
But i am surpassing glad she isn’t.
Cuz she is so stupid, I’d have been kicking myself for not drowning her at birth…
September 10th, 2009 at 8:25 pmI am not surprised, they have tried for medicare vouchers, before, as well.
September 10th, 2009 at 8:27 pmShorter AAPS: We dont think medicare is profitable enough.
September 10th, 2009 at 8:29 pmi just found out – on olbermann – that my congressman, john shitkus,
walked out of the president’s speech last night…
i’m not sure if he has an opponent coming up, but it would
sure be fun to raise some money for that person…
i’ve put out the word here… that’s the first i’d heard of it…
anyone know about why/when shitkus left the chamber?
September 10th, 2009 at 8:29 pmi think i caught a glimpse of him hanging out with the
birthcertificate/healthcarebill sign holders…
KayInMaine says:
Van Jones was right….republicans are a8sholes!
Van Jones is who the ‘hopey/changey” contingent thought they were voting for when the elected Obama…
They’re both community organizers.
But one organized Cop-Watch crews in Oakland, and we dunno what the other one organized.
One of ‘em got right up in the grill of the Man, and one didn’t.
But guess what? They’re BOTH ni66ers to whitey like Beck, Hannity, etc.
September 10th, 2009 at 8:30 pmMedicare with rescission…
Bye Bye Granny the private IV yankers are gonna pull your insurance but not until they siphon out your purse.
September 10th, 2009 at 8:46 pmCareful… or the spider will leave a tangled, dry corpse and move on! IMO, experiential evidence (equal to the above video footage) is always supperceded by authoritative (purporting), or credible referential evidence; my own (hobbyist’s) partial offer is from the common sense of pure, social science: a person’s desire for fairness will consistently re-energize a common sense attitude that every human grouping, maintains some multiple of purposes (greater than one) perhaps either because a) truths are never perfectly expressed one to another and, b) any two given opinions may vary.
AAPS is a group of licensed professionals; the second, out of many of their possible purposes, may be an opinion of healthy private (medical) practices!?
September 10th, 2009 at 8:48 pmIf you want your doctor to spend more time with you, which is a good idea; do what one of my doctors does-he doesn’t take insurance of any kind, indpendent or medicare. You read that right, you pay him and if you have insurance, you have to file it. You would be amazed at how much time he can spend with you, doing it this way. Of course, you have to do all the paper work and deal with the insurance agencies-fun; but hey, this is free enterprise at it’s best, if you don’t like it, go elsewhere. He also doesn’t charge as much because he doesn’t have a hugh staff dealing with insurance.
September 10th, 2009 at 8:51 pmThe leopard is showing in its spots.
September 10th, 2009 at 8:52 pmThey like privatization because it leaves a lot of room for bribery and kickbacks.
September 10th, 2009 at 8:53 pm.
Association of American Physicians and Surgeons = PROFIT 4 PAIN
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September 10th, 2009 at 8:59 pmEdgeOnIt says:
Hunh? There were “licensed professional” MDs and PhD psychologists who helped torture unlawful detainees.
You’re just full of shit, i think…
September 10th, 2009 at 9:06 pm.
Q U E S T I O N:
If the “LIBRUL MEDIA” is supposed to be “Liberal” and panders to a “Liberal” agenda, set on indoctrinating the Nation with it’s “Liberal” message…
… Then why does this “LIBRUL MEDIA” not speak of “SINGLE PAYER”?
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September 10th, 2009 at 9:08 pmThese wingnuts brains are so saturated with misinformation and lies that they dont even know where the fck they are.
September 10th, 2009 at 9:16 pmI can see them listening to limpo on the radio and watching beck on fox the shthole trying to keep up with the bullsht that their masters want them to repeat to anyone who will listen. Its gotten to the point where the repug party is outright useless. They really dont care about whats best for our country. They are still stinging from getting slapped around in the last two election cycles. The repugs and their wingnut followers will never accept the fact that a black man is the POTUS. So we have to put up with repugs and idiots like beck,hannity,limpo,orielly,savage,and the rest of the talking heads spewing their bullsht and lies. If these idiot bullsht wasnt dangerous then it would be great comedy.
Nothing ridicules the GOP like their actual positions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqd0XiNvtI0
Humor is the best medicine.
sp
September 10th, 2009 at 9:25 pmShimkus walked on Obama: ‘Frustrated’
[...]
“Congressman Shimkus was frustrated that the president was not offering any new ground and left with just minutes remaining in the speech,” spokesman Steven Tomaszewski said today in response to our question about the late-speech walk-out.
“Regardless of the words the president used, the tone did not bring Republicans on board,” the congressman’s spokesman said. “As George Stephanopoulos said, ‘He was right on the edge of anger,’ and as Rachel Maddow said, ‘I think liberals will be happy.’”
[...]
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/09/shimkus_walked_on_obama_frustr.html
guy can’t even talk for himself…
September 10th, 2009 at 9:28 pmOkay. IMO, it’s OKay to be ordinary, without suffering an ostensible debilitating fear of individuality; some lasting comfort can be achieved through participation in one of the many interrelated community institutions that exist.
“It’s them, or me!!”
September 10th, 2009 at 9:30 pmEdgeOnit, could you get a little more obtuse. I’ve got a bet with a friend that someone could be even more obtuse than your last couple of posts. She doesn’t think it’s possible.
September 10th, 2009 at 9:51 pmSo, GG. Your doctor won’t treat anyone who can’t hand him a check up front? I think that Hippocrates might have a negative opinion of said “doctor”.
September 10th, 2009 at 9:59 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Seniors are on Medicare, so this doctor doesn’t see any of them. He just sees people who can afford him. Good for him. Sounds like a first class dick. A real credit to the profession.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:05 pmWell jeepers, Kenneth. I guess that thousands of people suffering and dying needlessly, for the sake of a billionaire’s greed, makes me a bit “cynical”.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:09 pmA group of docs who filed an amicus that Rush Limbaugh’s drug use be kept secret.
Sounds like a totally unbiased group to me ?????
September 10th, 2009 at 10:09 pmKenneth: “— Let the gummint do it and we will pay and pay and pay for corruption and mismanagement.”
Tell that to seniors. When seniors are asked if they would rather have a private insurance-based program rather than Medicare, over 80% of them say no. And please, don’t say anything about funding or costs. You gladly supported a tax break that cost twice as much as universal health care, 52% of which benefited the top 2% of wealthy Americans. You gladly supported a trillion dollar war of choice built on lies. So conservatives, just shut up about money!
September 10th, 2009 at 10:09 pmmore shimkus…
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/gop-rep-walks-out-of-obamas-speech-to-congress.php?ref=fpa
http://thecapitolfaxblog.com/2009/09/10/hoffman-launches-with-shots-at-giannoulias-kirk/#comment-10406704
September 10th, 2009 at 10:15 pmoops… i meant shitkus…
September 10th, 2009 at 10:16 pmThere’s an alternate set of doctors touring the country doing town hall meetings advocating a single payer system.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:18 pmThis article references Republiklan doctors.
You know,
quacks.
ha! … need to see more of this:
District Relents on Obama Talk
September 10th, 2009 at 10:19 pmNew York Times – Dan Frosch – ?43 minutes ago?
Students in a Utah school district will get to see President Obama’s education address after all, though they will have to wait until next Thursday.
Kenneth, corruption and mismanagement is what our country had to deal with for eight years under bush and cheney.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:26 pmIf you want to talk about corruption what the fck do you think insurance company`s are? Repugs and wingnuts like you have nothing to offer but criticism,lies,and made up bullsht.
Why do you think the repug party is in the minority?
They burried themselves and they keep piling on more dirt with their stupidity,lies,and racism. The party of no,STFU and get out of the way.
Hi Kenneth
September 10th, 2009 at 10:30 pmDo you feel the gummint should be in charge of such serious matters as national defense?
Sorry, O.T. … Tomorrow, 9/11.
FBI Informant Says Agents Missed Chance to Stop 9/11 Ringleader Mohammed Atta
Undercover Operative ‘One Million Percent Positive’ Attacks Could Have Been Prevented
By BRIAN ROSS and VIC WALTER
Brian Ross Investigative Unit
Sept. 10, 2009
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Whistleblowers/911-ringleader-mohammed-atta-stopped-fbi-informant/Story?id=8540605&page=1
Oh, and then there’s this small victory…
City of New York Concedes 9/11 Coalition
Has 30,000 Valid Signatures To Put
Referendum For 9/11 Investigation on November Ballot
September 10, 2009
http://www.nyccan.org/
PEACE!
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September 10th, 2009 at 10:30 pmGosh Kenny, I really feel bad now,
but I’d feel a lot worse
if I believed FedEx was cheaper than the Post Office.
Does “Enron” mean anything to you? How about “AIG”? Heard of that one? “Bear Sterns”? “Global Crossing”? “Madoff”? “Stanford”? any bells at all????
Can you give me an example of “corruption” and “mismanagement” of that magnitude in a Public Agency?
Can you tell me about some USPS managers who are currently serving hard time for absconding with 10’s or hundreds of millions of dollars?
September 10th, 2009 at 10:34 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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Michael Lighty of California Nurses Association on California’s Real Death Panels
By: GRITtv Thursday September 10, 2009
http://lauraflanders.firedoglake.com/2009/09/10/michael-lighty-of-california-nurses-association-on-californias-real-death-panels/
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September 10th, 2009 at 10:45 pm***
#69,
so they voted for obama in ‘08?
you’re huffing again.
*
put down the hairspray.
:|
September 10th, 2009 at 10:45 pmLOL! Chimpy “won” in ‘04 because of the most vile disinformation campaign in U.S. history. And the realization of what would have happened had he succeeded in privatizing SS is a big reason why McCain never had a realistic chance.
September 10th, 2009 at 10:52 pm.
A happy tune for the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons to dance to.
We’re Number 37
BY: Paul Hipp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgOl3cETb4
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September 10th, 2009 at 10:58 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
another excellent ‘Special Comment’ from keith tonight…
“STUPID PANELS!” … as in, panels for the stupid…
September 10th, 2009 at 11:02 pmart is in the eye of the beholder…
doncha know?
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September 10th, 2009 at 11:09 pm.
Dear aaronk,
I gotta ask you a question. Your posts are always lacking symbols, blank spaces, and number references…what’s the deal?
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September 10th, 2009 at 11:13 pmWe can’t really blame the stupid troll. He’s been conditioned to condemn artists as well as scientists.
September 10th, 2009 at 11:21 pmput down the hairspray.
—
September 10th, 2009 at 11:24 pmAhh the Ocean…
aaronk says:
joe cantwell, I gotta ask you a question. Your posts are always full of symbols, blank spaces, and number references…what’s the deal?
Ssshh..don’t tell anyone, but it’s a secret facist socialist commie code. It’s driving the NSA crazy.
September 10th, 2009 at 11:26 pmAlso, I think most got a wake-up call last winter when they realized what the result of privatizing Social Security would have been. Privatize Medicare..not gonna happen.
This looks more like a rally of doctors and mrs. doctors to be, that are hopeful their corporate kickbacks won’t suffer the limitations of any government regulation.
September 10th, 2009 at 11:37 pmPlease don’t let them touch me.
katy,
Keith hit every nail, squarely!
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September 10th, 2009 at 11:47 pmMax, gotta loves me some Paul Hipp!!
September 11th, 2009 at 12:13 amaaronk, let me see if I can help you out here my little challenged buddy.
I might post something like …. “your mother sucks c*cks in hell” while twisting my head and vomiting pea soup. Pretty straight to the point and doesn’t require any thought.
Joe, on the other hand would post…
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#74,
you don’t get it?
really?.
*
you probably never will.
*
good luck with the pea soup.
:|
Art is in the eye of the beholder. Joe is artistic. You are a little b*tch with no imaginatiopn, no original thought, and no value to society.
September 11th, 2009 at 12:51 amJust curious, but I wonder if the proportion of AAAP physicians who are GPs is significantly lower than those in the AMA.
In other words, is it possible that these physicians took the “first make a buck” oath before the one by Hippocrates?
September 11th, 2009 at 1:48 amMedicare’s deficit will get larger and larger. Why would the Democrats want to stop that? They’ll be able to appoint more Czars and hire more folks to make it worse.
September 11th, 2009 at 2:26 amagain about
republicans privatizing medicare?
have been trying that since 1960’s havent they?
try this one:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/29/medicare-flashback/
yup, and the republicans are also the
fear experts also..
speaking of killing your granma, or speaking against the VA,
I guess if you say it enough
people will believe you? bang it in your head with a brick maybe, then you will see who is really for the people and who is for the money.
they’d probably charge you for the brick, on your credit cards.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:07 amThese tantrums of an impotent minority help prove my theory–right-wingers honest-to-God think Merchants are the super-race.
This was the credo of the Republican Revolution. For thirty years, all we heard was that capitalism is the perfect system, free enterprise is the best way to do everything under the sun, greed is good, goverment is bad, making oney is the be-all of existence, businesses never cheat, people who aren’t good at making money should die, business is good, the public sector should be privatized, the Federal Reserve can be run on the honor system, life is an Ayn Rand novel, and so on.
It was just a crazy coincidence that the people promoting this brilliant philosphy happened to be Merchant types. ;)
The upshot: we have now realized that government is the only solution to all the problems we created by treating government as the problem.
Notice: You have been summoned to Perry Logan’s Death Panel
September 11th, 2009 at 5:31 amYou have heard of surgery groupies…
She sounds like a doctor groupie…
Hummer anyone….
September 11th, 2009 at 7:10 amA friend of mine called me last night crying. She is a 7th grade social studies teacher. One of the kids in her class called out “you lie” everytime she tried to teach in the class. She had just gotten off of the phone with the kid’s parent, and the parent said that she did lie, that social studies was just liberal indoctination. She is beside herself, heartsick about what to do with this intolerable situation.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:40 amsimple: inform the kid that his/her parent is a moron and he/she would be better off being raised by her rice crispies
September 11th, 2009 at 8:05 amDid no one else notice that the AAPS screwed up their logo in this PDF…? “Association of American of American Physicians and Surgeons”
September 11th, 2009 at 8:11 am!!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:26 amRantingTommy says
September 11th, 2009 at 8:05 am
simple: inform the kid that his/her parent is a moron and he/she would be better off being raised by her rice crispies
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While you and I know this is obvious, telling the kid the truth about his parents probably won’t make much positive impact.
Most teachers in this situation would just send the kid to the principal’s office to get the disruption out of the way. And this makes some sense — why allow one kid to derail the entire class?
Unfortunately, this does nothing to help the kid, who, without some kind of intervention, will just grow up to be a parroting dittohead — incapable of independent thought.
A good teacher will realize that the best thing you can teach a kid is how to think. Any cry of “you lie!” should immediately be met with a challenge to present a coherent argument to the contrary — just like we do with the trolls here. If it’s a historical fact that’s challenged (such as what date Abraham Lincoln was assassinated), the kid would be shot down rather quickly. If it’s something a bit more subjective, like the effects of African colonialism, it could lead to a great class discussion — particularly if it’s a diverse class. Either way, the kid will have to come up with something more than slogans and soundbites he got from his parents and radio talk show hosts.
The best social studies teacher I ever had was one who never allowed a student to state a position with only bumper sticker sayings.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:53 ammarwick says:
Medicare’s deficit will get larger and larger.
Unless Obama hires more fraud investigators. Wanna bet that’s also in the works, to help bring the cost down?
As I remember, Bush was decidedly lackadaisical about such investigations of his campaign contributers.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:58 amThis all we need now, doctors who put their political ideology before their hypocratic oath……….This is a very sad commentary on far right America today.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:24 amThank you for making me aware that the AAPS actually exists. It would be a good thing when choosing a new doctor to find out if they belong to such an organization. We cant eliminate the right-wing but if we made a strong effort we could starve them out!
September 11th, 2009 at 9:56 amOh yes, yes, yes, privatize Medicare by all means! I mean lets face it, sick people are a pain in the ass for any medical insurance company because they cut into profits. I’m sure the private sector can get it to run more efficiently by increasing overhead costs to 30%, paying their investors and CEO’s ungodly profits and booting all those slacker sick people off the plan. GO CAPITALISM!
September 11th, 2009 at 10:08 amThe AAPS booth was busy making “homemade” protest signs
Man these teabaggers are as lazy as they are stupid. How hard is it to make your own damn teaparty sign? Print a photo of Obama draw a Hitler mustache and you’re done!
September 11th, 2009 at 10:15 amOh yeah… Just go out there and ask Seniors if they want to turn their health care over to the for-profit health care industry. I seriously doubt you will get many takers.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:28 amWHY would America want to turn over control of Medicare to the private sector? The private sector would treat seniors JUST like they do the rest of us, with NO coverage for this, NO coverage for that, they WOULD have death panels and the bottom line, they would cheat the American people and OUR moms, dads and grandparents out of their tax dollars and medication, to support their lavish life styles……….WTF???
September 11th, 2009 at 10:40 amAnother thought. Do they really think that the for-profit health care industry is going to welcome seniors with welcome arms and give them all good policies? This while charging 4x the rate they give to a 25 year old for someone over 60. Talk about breaking the bank. The vouchers given to seniors so that they can get the same coverage they now get under Medicare would have to be astronomical in the amount for it to have a prayer of working.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:52 amI heard something interesting of Big Ed’s show yesterday. He thinks that Obama is brilliant with his insistence that it must be against the law for an insurer to refuse someone due to pre-existing condition or to cancel a policy once it is written. His thinking is that if these provisions are in a health care reform bill, that will take away the industry’s objection to a public option because they don’t want to insure anyone who might cost them money. I think that Ed just might be right.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:54 amHave some of you people lost your minds? The group of physicians who went to Washingon yesterday were not there to privatize Medicare. They were there to try and stop the government from instituting a public insurance plan that would eventually make us all subject to a Medicare type plan. This type of plan would prevent us from seeing our own doctors. The plans being bandied about in Washington now are not about health care reform or health care period. Are they the ones who will take care of you when you are sick? No. Are they the ones who will tell you what medical care you will receive? Yes.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:35 ammimiga says:
That’s a bunch of lies. I find it hilarious that you teabaggers said nothing about Bush running up the debt, but suddenly you’re all fiscal watchdogs. The plan does none of the things you fear, but your simpleminded authoritarian mindset constructs things that will never happen. And death panels? Get real.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:54 amThis type of plan would prevent us from seeing our own doctors .
This is bull, mimiga. And you need to stop distorting what we are talking about, sorry.
We are talking about making sure everyone has insurance.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:54 amAnd mimi, if you’re from GA, your gov. is planning on opting out, so quit hyperventilating.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:55 amWall meet head….head meet wall….bang bang bang!!!!
This is too sureal. I just want to piss on every fu**en greedy fascist pig doctor.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:58 amI have read HB 3200. Have you? If not, I suggest you read it, then decide who is doing the lying here. I don’t hope to change anyone’s mind myself. What I mentioned in my previous comments is in the bill. BTW Noliesplease – I hope the next time you get sick you are sure to tell your doctor what you posted.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:36 pmDo you realize the same problems will probably occur,
when the republicans tried to
privatize Walter reed Hospital?
to you veterans out there, check out this one:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/03/11/privatizing_of_walter_reed_scrutinized/
“Privatizing of Walter Reed Hospital Scrutinized”
September 11th, 2009 at 6:07 pmhey veterans, check that one out !!!
mimiga says:
I have read HB 3200. Have you? If not, I suggest you read it, then decide who is doing the lying here. I don’t hope to change anyone’s mind myself. What I mentioned in my previous comments is in the bill. BTW Noliesplease – I hope the next time you get sick you are sure to tell your doctor what you posted.
Where is it in the bill? I can’t find it… here’s a copy.
http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf
September 11th, 2009 at 6:52 pmCan you tell me where SPECIFICALLY are the provisions that will “eventually make us all subject to a Medicare type plan” and “prevent us from seeing our own doctors?”
I look and I look but I can’t find it…
September 11th, 2009 at 6:54 pmI have read HB 3200. Have you? If not, I suggest you read it, then decide who is doing the lying here.
Since I have read HR 3200 can I say that you are lying?
‘Cause you are definitely not being completely truthful…
September 11th, 2009 at 6:59 pmmarwick says:
God you are stupid. I guess you are so brainwashed because you KNOW you are too stupid to think for yourself
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September 16th, 2009 at 9:24 am