Beck fan and 9/12 protest attendee explains why Obama will oppress ‘white America.’
Beck fan and 9/12 protest attendee explains why Obama will oppress ‘white America.’
Despite the tea parties’ ostensible purpose of opposing taxation, many of the signs today at the 9/12 march attacked President Obama using explicit racial and ethnic smears. Glenn Beck, who helped initiated the idea for the rally, has come under fire for similarly stating Obama has a “deep-seated hatred for white people.” ThinkProgress documented some of the hate at the protest, and also spoke to one attendee who shared Beck’s views. The attendee, like Beck, thought Obama hates whites, but also believed he will oppress the white race with communism. We asked him about the sign he was holding up, which showed Obama riding a white baby:
ATTENDEE: Barack was the name of the horse that Mohammed rode to heaven, alright a white horse.
Q: What does the white baby represent?
ATTENDEE: White America, because I do believe our President is a racist [...] But I think it’s mainly communism that he’s going to want to tell us what to wear, what to do, have his little red book like Mao because he really is a communist.
ThinkProgress’ Victor Zapanta produced a video from the rally today, and ThinkProgress reader Vikrum Aiyer submitted several photographs. Watch it:
There were several hate groups among the various corporate and Republican organizations paying FreedomWorks to help finance the rally. The National Association for Rural Landowners, a bronze sponsor, references the incidents at Waco and Ruby Ridge to call for attacks on “government entities” and liberals. In a YouTube video posted in July, the group makes the case for a secession, followed by a violent civil war. Another 9/12 cosponsor, FreeRepublic, is a forum for various radical right causes and as ThinkProgress reported, the shooter at the Holocaust museum found a welcome audience for his writings on the website.
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He’s going to have a little red book? Onoes! Save us, Whitey!
September 12th, 2009 at 9:25 pmThat guy in the interview sure has his “Glenn Beck” talking points down pat. He must have listened to at least 1,000 hours of Beck to get that brainwashed.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:30 pmHoo boy. Lucky for us these people are too stupid to disguise their stupidity or their racism.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:34 pmDon’t forget to tease the trolls about the fact that
September 12th, 2009 at 9:34 pmGlenn Drama Queen Beck has lost 62 sponsors since the boycott started.
Somehow, I feel a little sad for this guy.
Not sympathetic, but sad.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:37 pmI can only speak for myself here… but…
I am a white man and I am not afraid of Obama’s agenda. So, if all whiteys are afraid of his agenda…. then I’ll be the only white person who is not.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:39 pmI am a white woman — just like Barack Obama’s mother — and I know these teabaggers are full of shit.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:40 pmIf Obama hates white people so much, how come he has a white Vice President, a white Chief of Staff, and lots of whites working in his Cabinet?
September 12th, 2009 at 9:40 pmI’m a white woman who is sick of white conservatives.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:41 pmIt’s odd how they’re all about the language of symbols. While they seem to have a hard time trying to do rational debate based on logically constructed arguments, they’re very comfortable with stating their case using symbolic pictures on boards, as well as identifying the emotive connotation of single words, such as those produced by Beck’s anagram method.
It’s like watching an alternative to humanity try to navigate in the world using only cobbled-together alternatives to actual sentience. While some of their “thought-like” methodologies are fairly inventive, it’s unfortunately no substitute for the real thing.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:43 pmDear Mr “Attendee,”
Deal with your pathetic racism.
Love,
The Human Race
September 12th, 2009 at 9:43 pmSoooo, it the white baby Obama is riding an aborted white baby?
:-D
September 12th, 2009 at 9:45 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
It could be because he’s just as unhinged as you, STORM.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:48 pmI know what you mean. It is sad to watch isn’t it? This is why I don’t go to church and am an Atheist. Scares me to death how easy it is to brainwash people! Yikes. I was listening to one of Beck’s shows one day and he had a fill-in on. The host said when he first started bringing his daughters to the local baptist church, he was amazed one day when one of his daughters said to him, “Dad, you are not my father”, and he said, “Yes I am”, and his daughter replied, “No you’re not. My father is gawd”. He said it took a very long time to get her to understand that he is her father. Anyway, Beck’s fill-in was trying to say this is what liberals do to children and our nation! Oh gawd please shut the hell up reich wing of America! Gees. This guy is now brainwashing his audience to believe nonsense! Spit.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:50 pmHow long have you been scared of black people, STORMfront?
September 12th, 2009 at 9:50 pmSTORM says:
No it couldnt. You are stupid and brainwashed enough to carry the water for the screechmonkeys who do your thinking and want you to bring this ignorant BS up whenever possible but it only shows how pathetically ignorant you are. You are a stupid punkass troll doing your trollduty to change the subject. Just STFU since you are too stupid to contribute to the adult conversation
September 12th, 2009 at 9:51 pmSTORM says:
You are an ignorant racist moron. I love to laugh at bigots as stupid as you
September 12th, 2009 at 9:53 pmIt is all about losing white privileged.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:53 pmSTORM Sewer:
Are you bitter because an African American was elected President by an overwhelming majority?
Am I correct in assuming that you chose the name Storm because you are a racist? There is a nasty white supremacist site called Storm Front.
Have you no same, Sir?
September 12th, 2009 at 9:53 pmReggie says:
He has no shame, no brain, no decency, honesty, integrity or critical thinking skills. He is a pathetic punkass troll and nothing more
September 12th, 2009 at 9:55 pmI feel your pain, Kay.
It seems that this level of politics has the power to turn adults into “Uh-huh! Nuh-uh!” kids. Proof takes a backseat to conjecture, and that’s good enough for some of these people.
But it’s nice to see Beck’s words are making some people’s posters so imaginatively artistic.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:56 pmThese people are insane, racist, & very dangerous. DHS & CIa please invesigate.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:56 pmI wonder if the teabaggers see the millions of white people who voted for President Obama as race traitors?
September 12th, 2009 at 9:57 pmI apologize for the typos- too tired.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:57 pm“YES WE KLAN!” LOL…
http://bayareahouston.blogspot.com/2009/09/yes-we-klan-teabaggers-on-parade.html
September 12th, 2009 at 10:00 pmKayInMaine says:
I’m a white woman who is sick of white conservatives.
Also a white person and am glad to see the white ignorant racist pigs put in their place so we can draw from the pool of all in search of better and brighter leaders.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:00 pmStorm, are you a Bircher, birther, deather, truther, tenther, teabagger, racist, schlonger or Paulbot?
All of the above?
September 12th, 2009 at 10:01 pmZooey says:
I am a white woman — just like Barack Obama’s mother — and I know these teabaggers are full of shit.
– - I’m a white 57-year old male and white guys like the one in that video leave me in a continual facepalm mode.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:02 pmWell, the Better & Brighter Pool has been dimmed lately watching the white conservatives acting like a bunch of Taliban members.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:02 pmWell I for one look forward to serving our Nubian overlords in the forthcoming New World Order. I’m going to practice my British accent so I can get a job as a House Cracker instead of a Field Cracker.
/snark
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STORM says:
It could be because of this video.
Protip: summarize your links in your post if you expect anybody to click them.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:03 pmAl-Burak is described as a white animal the shape and size of a mule, with the head of a woman and the tail of a peacock.
Apparently Muhammad road Al-Burak all over the place, including heaven, for visits.
Mr “Attendee” got nothing right about this “white baby” the President is supposedly riding.
Surprise!
September 12th, 2009 at 10:04 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
*watching Dick Armey speak on CNN* Did Dick Armey ever speak out forcefully against George Bush & Dick Cheney? I don’t remember. But man! He’s mad as hell today! Spit. What an a-hole.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:04 pmThese poor, scared little people need to go home. America has outgrown them.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:04 pmI’m so glad you haven’t. The police entered his home ready to arrest the black man that day. Gates did not deserve to be arrested or treated like that in his own home. Thanks for caring!
September 12th, 2009 at 10:05 pmAnd what is your point about Prof. Gates.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:06 pmDimbulb.
Now Joe Wilson is saying he’s also raised $1,000,000. Let me guess, the Klan emptied out their couches for ya!
September 12th, 2009 at 10:06 pmYep these tea party`s are all about gov. spending.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:09 pmThese tea party`s are all about white cons. who are angry that a black man is our president. These people are disgusting racist pigs.
Badmoodman says:
White 52 and I couldnt agree more
September 12th, 2009 at 10:09 pmSTORM says:
Why should we. A cop acted stupidly. They dropped the charges and I guarantee you right now the police are STILL kissing Harvard ass for the screwup. Dont you ever get embarassed that you are so humiliatingly stupid?
September 12th, 2009 at 10:11 pmI can’t imagine that Beck isn’t both amused and repulsed by the very people who’ve helped put him where he is…
September 12th, 2009 at 10:18 pmPathetic.
Paranoid.
ARMED!!!!!
Contact your Senators and Representatives, NOW!!!!!!
September 12th, 2009 at 10:19 pmStorm Sewer:
You are right, we should not forget what happened to Dr. Gates.
It’s a disgrace that an elderly Black man was treated that way in his own house, especially after he showed the police his identification.
I am glad we finally agree on something.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:23 pmThey sure picked out a great spokesman for the Bleeeeeech! Brigade. This is what you get when siblings breed for generations and generations. Very sad, really.
Bleeech! has “figured a way out” of all this socialistic, communistic stuff he’s uncovering . . . isolate Washington, D.C. I got a better idea, pant-load. I think it’s time to isolate some of the Southern states starting with South Carolina. No offense to the good citizens who live there but you’ve got to realize that you’re out-numbered.
The enlightened majority in this country can no longer afford to return more money to these Southern states than they generate in federal revenue. We can no longer afford to try negotiating in good faith with the morons they elect to Congress. We can no longer afford the hate, fear and ignorance they spread and the encouragement they give to the likes of Limpballs, Seanie Vanity and FoxSnooze.
It’s time that we pursue “a more perfect union” and kick these laggards to the curb.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:24 pmthank you for this, lee/TP…
more exposure will have to help people see the need to rein in the kooks…
republicans should be ashamed… or change their name…
i cannot imagine the proper way to deal with the crazy…
one of those damned if ya do, damned if ya don’t…
but something’s GOT to be done, soon.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:24 pmI have a small question to ask of the dumb trolls,
Why was not ANY OF YOUR PROMINENT (LOL) GOPIGS speaking for you today?
No Michael Steele.
No Newt.
No Limpo.
No Billdo.
No McSame.
No Moose Boogers.
No Sam the Non-Plumber.
No new-clowns.
Could it be because they didn’t want to be embarrassed by a bunch of ignorant knuckle draggers?
But wait!
Not everything is lost!
The MORONS above, starting tomorrow and on Monday, will be fluffing each other telling you ZOMBIES what a useful morons you are. For nothing.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:24 pm***
#33,
don’t be so afraid.
*
they can’t hurt you.
:|
September 12th, 2009 at 10:24 pmhaven’t watched that video… not sure i want to…
September 12th, 2009 at 10:25 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Yeah, that was a Screamer vid from STORM, people. Don’t fall for it. Caught it right away.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:29 pmSTORM SEWER:
Why are you so intimidated by Black Men, does it have something to do with your having an unusually tiny dick?
September 12th, 2009 at 10:31 pm***
#50,
didn’t hear it…
*
but i saw your mother.
did she have lap band surgery?
:)
September 12th, 2009 at 10:32 pmSTORM says:
You are a liar and a fool and an ignorant pile of dogshit. A worthless lying punkass troll. Are you TRYING to see just how pathetic you can possibly get you racist moron?
September 12th, 2009 at 10:33 pmThe Republic of Stupidity says:
I can’t imagine that Beck isn’t both amused and repulsed by the very people who’ve helped put him where he is…
September 12th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
I wonder if it will take a whole year for him to start hating the teabaggers, since it took that long for him to start hating the 9/11 families.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:33 pmWill these people have to be deprogrammed? This is mass cult brain-washing. It’s psychotic on its face.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:35 pmZooey says:
I wonder if it will take a whole year for him to start hating the teabaggers, since it took that long for him to start hating the 9/11 families.
___________
I can’t imagine he doesn’t already despise them for being so gullible.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:36 pmThe Republic of Stupidity says:
I can’t imagine he doesn’t already despise them for being so gullible.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
It grosses me out to think I have that in common with Beck.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:37 pmSpeaking of “spokesmen” for the Bleeeeeech! Brigade, here’s one of those pictures that’s worth a thousand words –> http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/.a/6a00d83451c45669e20120a5bf2abd970c-popup
I’ll just bet this moron’s parents are so proud of him. They got him all dressed up and paraded him around with the teabaggers today. The poor smuck isn’t even old enough to know who Joe McCarthy was or what a sad chapter of American history he represents.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:37 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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stormfront,
did you go to the march?
:)
:0
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September 12th, 2009 at 10:39 pmI’m a 51 year old white Richmond Virginia native, former United Daughters of the Confederacy member, and I want to grab a confederate flag out of some teabaggers hand and whack them upside the head as many times as are necessary to convince these idiots that there is no race or nationality extant in the US today that wishes to claim these people as members of our group, let alone our species. Fortunately, I am both a progressive and a christian, and my beliefs will override my animal instincts.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:40 pm***
#60,
unlike you,
we stay away from the meth.
*
you should try it.
:)
September 12th, 2009 at 10:40 pmSTORM says:
The real question is how did morons like YOU become so woefully ignorant and brainwashed? I mean for you it was just your racist stupidity coming to the forefront but I mean most of you brainwashed rightwing morons.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:41 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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#62,
outstanding!
:)
September 12th, 2009 at 10:41 pmGive up, Storm. Your attempt to make yourself appear the reasonable one has not occurred in any vacuum other than your mind.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:42 pm***
#65,
that’s what she said.
:)
September 12th, 2009 at 10:43 pmSTORM says:
And we can’t forget about the Prof. Gates incident.
Good point. That really underscored the prevalence of lingering racism in America, as well as the racist policies and behavior of our police and justice system.
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STORM says:
Don’t forget this video of obama calling white people out.
Allow me to fix your crap html for you. It shows Obama speaking about America reaching common cause (with very low volume), and then a zombie suddenly pops up and screams at you (very loudly).
Way to make a point there, STORM.
Are you trying to hurt the right-wing cause? I’m seriously beginning to think you’re a liberal pretending to be a wingnut online. If so, that’s an unfair way to make a point. It doesn’t do our side any good to pretend to be a particularly stupid wingnut. They’re stupid enough without you.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:43 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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#69,
bruce,
a mole troll like ccc?
could be.
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the stupid is the give-away.
:\
September 12th, 2009 at 10:46 pmAs a formerly anti-gun liberal I am now going to start acquiring weapons and ammunition and be ready for these psychopatic miscreants. I wonder how many could be taken out with a single shot? Would 00 buckshot be better than slugs? If these cheneyholes want a fight to “save democracy” then I think its about time they are given their fight. The south was beaten to shreds 150 years ago…its time to do it again.
September 12th, 2009 at 10:50 pmHow do people become so informed and knowledgeable about what is best for this country …?
well, ThinkProgress is a really good place to start… and here you are,
so make good use of your time – shaddup and listen (or read)!
you WILL learn something – and it will be the TRUTH.
and the next thing you can do for your civic education – TURN OFF FOX.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:01 pmExcellent read – Frank Schaeffer knows what he’s talking about – he was indoctrinated/brainwashed as a young person, but thankfully came out of his coma.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/glenn-beck-and-the-912-ma_b_284387.html
September 12th, 2009 at 11:02 pmHey Tom, I took a look at the picture at #59. I would imagine his parents are using him as a tool to help push their rightwingnut beliefs. They got the idea from palin.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:06 pmI hope that child welfare services pays his parents a visit before its too late.
Eejit: How do people become so informed and knowledgeable about what is best for this country as you obviously have?
You could try cracking a book once in awhile.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:07 pmoh my… has anyone heard sen.john cornyn’s repug response to president obama’s saturday address?
these guys just lie as easy as breathing…
watching some cspan … now showing some of the dc rally…
September 12th, 2009 at 11:13 pmup next, president obama in minnesota today…
That was a terrific read, GreatGranny2B. Glad I checked it out. Thanks for posting the link.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:15 pmGreatGranny2B says:
September 12th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Excellent article, GreatGranny. We have to understand that the religious rightwing nutjobs simply do not think the way other people do.
Thank you.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:19 pm***
storm,
outed.
:)
September 12th, 2009 at 11:22 pmGreatGranny2B says:
Excellent read – Frank Schaeffer knows what he’s talking about – he was indoctrinated/brainwashed as a young person, but thankfully came out of his coma.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/glenn-beck-and-the-912-ma_b_284387.html
Wow, great stuff:
That’s a great way of putting it, and exactly what’s been happening right in front of us for decades.
The next decade is going to see a lot of terrorist activity bred right here at home. I just hope we’re ready to withstand it.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:23 pmAw, look. A 1600 SAT-er! Minus 1599, that is. Those critical reading sections are haaaaaaard.
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Are tea parties rooted with racists?
http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=6134
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Heh. I’m not sure why you’ve got such a negative vote, Jeff, since the “poll” states 89% say yes.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:25 pmHuffPost has several Frank Schaeffer articles, and they’re all good. Don’t know if their archives are searchable, but probably Google would find them.
BTW, another white female here. I haven’t been afraid of our government since election day 2008 and don’t expect to be unless the Republicans get back in – ditto about my Medicare coverage.
I AM afraid of the tea-baggers.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:27 pm“Beck fan and 9/12 protest attendee explains why Obama will oppress ‘white America.’”
Good lord, the attendee must have been on LSD or something. A white horse??? lol Thanks for the laugh, TP. No need to comment anyone on this posting. The right wing loons and wingnuts are always known to stay classy.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:32 pm@79 Trollspotter – Thanks, glad you read it!
Here’s another great one and funny – the Beckers have been posting photos, supposedly of the massive numbers in attendance. Well, some savvy folks discovered they were fakes. One of the photos *taken today* is IDENTICAL to that of the Promise Keepers on Oct. 4, 1997.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/12/781227/-Teabagger-fail:-fake-pics-to-inflate-crowd-estimate
September 12th, 2009 at 11:33 pmAnd has there ever been a bigger gathering of ignorant, racists, morons in our history?
I mean besides the Republican Conventions.
These people are depicable, subhuman, scum sucking, morons.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:34 pmStephen Colbert ripped apart Fox News host (and New York Times cover boy) Glenn Beck Tuesday night, mocking his 9-12 project, meant to conjure the spirit of compassion and camaraderie Americans felt on September 12, 2001.
“We weren’t told how to behave that day after 9/11, we just knew,” Beck says to describe the project. “It was right, it was the opposite of what we feel today. Are you ready to be the person you were that day after 9/11, on 9/12?”
Colbert then used a classic “Daily Show” tactic, exposing the hypocrisy of Beck’s 9-12 project by highlighting comments he made on September 9, 2005.
“This is horrible to say, and I wonder if I’m alone in this,” Beck said on his radio program that day, “you know it took me about a year to start hating the 9/11 victims’ families? I don’t hate all of them. I hate probably about 10 of them. But when I see a 9-11 victim family on television, or whatever, I’m just like, ‘Oh, shut up!’ I’m so sick of them because they’re always complaining. And we did our best for them.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/01/stephen-colbert-rips-apar_n_181673.html
You lose again, Bovine. Shocker!
September 12th, 2009 at 11:36 pmHah! Another great link, thank you!
Hilarious how Beckbots will lie about anything they think might help their cause. Much like our resident trolls, I might add.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:43 pmSo Beck didn’t say he hated the 9/11 families?
September 12th, 2009 at 11:45 pmSays Who says:
colbert=comedy……nuff said. Next?
Like all good comedy, it succeeds because it’s based on truth. Which is why Republican “conservative” comedy bombs.
What’s truly funny is that you think your little smokescreen will help you cover up what Beck actually said on-air. How do you feel about Beck’s comments about 9/11 families?
September 12th, 2009 at 11:45 pmI’m so late to this thread but I had to say something. I’ve spent all day laughing my a$$ off at these loons! OMG! This guy in the video with the poster – AHAHAHAHAHA!
September 12th, 2009 at 11:46 pm***
who say,
what?
:)
September 12th, 2009 at 11:47 pmGeez, tell us something we don’t know.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:47 pm**
who say…
did you go to the march?
:)
September 12th, 2009 at 11:48 pmTrollspotter – we know that Glenn Beck is laughing all the way to the bank at these wingnut loon’s expense. If only they’d get a clue.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:48 pmWait a second, there’s a “White America?” Where is it? I’ve never heard of such a country. Well wherever that is, it seems they’re trying to make themselves an enemy of the United States of America.
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bluesunflower says:
Heh. I’m not sure why you’ve got such a negative vote, Jeff, since the “poll” states 89% say yes.
It’s not negative because he disagrees with us, it’s negative because he keeps pollspamming all the threads around here. Trust me, you’ll get sick of it pretty soon.
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Says Who says:
…anyone who didn’t vote for obama is a racist just like all the blacks that didn’t vote for Bush are racists, right? Loon logic?
Yes, that logic is completely loony, which is why no liberal has ever made such a claim.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:53 pmHey GreatGranny @ 88 – Not sure if you all have seen this but the Beckbots also lied to ABC too.
Conservative activists, who organized a march on the U.S. Capitol today in protest of the Obama administration’s health care agenda and government spending, erroneously attributed reports on the size of the crowds to ABC News.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/protest-crowd-size-estimate-falsely-attributed-abc-news/story?id=8558055
September 12th, 2009 at 11:53 pm@80 Zooey – Right on the money – they DON’T think like we do. To them, no matter what they do or how egregious their actions, they justify them in the name of throwing out Satan.
We’ve got to stop them somehow!
@82 ElBruce says: The next decade is going to see a lot of terrorist activity bred right here at home. I just hope we’re ready to withstand it
Agreed – churches and other religious organizations that are involved in the political scene MUST lose their tax exempt status. Maybe some major liberal/progressive group will get up a petition (or something!) to get the IRS’ a** in gear and put the screws to them like they do the little guys.
@84 humbug72 – yes, HuffPost’s archives will come up with plenty, but if you use Google, you’ll come up with more that have been posted on other websites. I’m a 60’s white female and like you, feel no fear with Obama as POTUS, but would be scared to death if the religious nutters gain much more power.
More good reading on the evangelicals/dominionists/etc. at this site, especially as they relate to Palin: http://palinreport.presspublisher.us/
And this one:
http://godsownparty.com/blog/
And don’t forget to read Jeff Sharlett’s latest: The Family – The Secret Fundamentalism At The Heart of American Power
September 12th, 2009 at 11:54 pmElBruce says:
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Wait a second, there’s a “White America?” Where is it? I’ve never heard of such a country. Well wherever that is, it seems they’re trying to make themselves an enemy of the United States of America.
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It’s not negative because he disagrees with us, it’s negative because he keeps pollspamming all the threads around here. Trust me, you’ll get sick of it pretty soon.
Damn, there goes my dream that comments are voted on according to their actual content. But I’ve already learned that since EugeneDebs’ comments almost always earns positive votes.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:57 pmWow, this thread is moving fast. I thought we had enough of racist dipshits on the other thread, but I see a few came over here to join us.
Where’s Tundra to explain how this fellows not racist it’s just he doesn’t want to lose any white rights?
September 12th, 2009 at 11:59 pmNext, there’s the time Beck totally contradicts himself on whether America has the “best health care in the world” or whether it’s a “nightmare.”
Funny stuff, Bovine.
September 12th, 2009 at 11:59 pmhumbug72 says:
Don’t know if their archives are searchable, but probably Google would find them.
You can click on a contributor’s name to get a historical list of the posts they’ve done there. I haven’t read Schaeffers other stuff, but I run across his Huffpo articles fairly regularly.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:00 am@103 hormiga brava chavez – No, hadn’t seen that one, but that is totally their way – can’t face the truth so make up a lie, and what a gross exaggeration! Thanks for the pointer to it.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:00 amSays Who says:
How do you feel about Beck’s comments about 9/11 families?
He’s right. The 10 he refers to are moonbats.
Specifically which 10 and why are they moonbats?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:02 amAs a 56 year old white woman I can affirm that there is no ethnic group more heinous than racist white trash. There is no excuse for anybody to be so willfully ignorant. I only wish the MSM put these people on display for the rest of the country that has a peripheral interest in politics to be as embarrassed as we are
September 13th, 2009 at 12:03 amI’ll give the stupid troll half credit. Becky is not a hypocrite. A hypocrite is one who knowingly abandons their principles for some gain. Becky has no principles and lacks the intelligence to be self-aware enough to abandon them if he had any.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:04 amSo just like Beck you hate families of 9/11 victims.
Know who else hates the families of 9/11 victims?
Al-Qaida.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:05 amWe have Rupert Murdoch’s money and connections to thank for the likes of Fox, Beck, and their ilk, along with their followers. Had the regulations not been changed, he wouldn’t be able to own such a diversity of media. He wants to take Obama and the Democratic administration down at any cost, have his own puppets controlling the government, and the loss of a few advertisers on Beck’s program won’t phase him a bit – it’s nothing but pocket change to him.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:07 amOops! Forgot to mention he’s stupid as all Hell and a certifiable lunatic. But that can be assumed when talking about Becky.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:08 amDon’t bother with Says Who, guys. We all know who it is. Don’t feed the trolls, even on 9/12.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:09 ambluesunflower, EugeneDebs is our enforcer. Our capo if you will. He says some things so the rest of us don’t have to.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:10 amSays the idiot with his head wedged firmly up his derriere.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:11 amDon’t be fooled. My party’s not losing their breath about being “oppressed.” They invite a race war so long as they don’t have to fight it – usual chickenhawk rules apply.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:12 am***
#117,
let’s leave your
wife out of this.
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 12:14 amIndeed you do. Constantly. I’m glad you recognize it, though, that’s the first step in making a change.
So which red state do you hope will secede so you can run to it once you and your fellow traitors decide you can’t stand America any more?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:14 amSays Who says:
Trollspotter says:
Get things backwards much?
GOP headquarters pays premium for sh*theaded trolls who can’t type more than four words in a sentence. I believe in you, my little parrot.
BTW, I forgot to give you your paycheck ..
**reaches into pocket and hands ‘Says Who’ lint, two pennies, and a Cheeto curl with the cheese licked off**
September 13th, 2009 at 12:16 amhormiga brava chavez–Thanks for the link!
GreatGranny2B–Thanks for the link to Schaffer!
Schaeffer makes some great points in the Huffpo article. Those on the right aren’t interested in the facts, and they aren’t interested in playing by the rules.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:17 amI am not afraid of them, but I am ever vigilant. We should all be, and we must be willing to fight against their efforts to takeover this country by any means necessary because if they takeover, this will mean the end of our democratic form of government, and will lead to the deaths of millions. America will be in Pol Pot redux mode, and there will be killing fields.
Slightly O/T, but Tina Fey just won an Emmy for portraying Sarah Palin on SNL. I would LOVE to see someone do a Glenn Beck satire – think I’ll hunt up an e-mail for the show and see if they have any plans along that line.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:18 amFixed it for you retard.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:19 amWhen you’re right, you’re right, Purple State. I just couldn’t resist tweaking the failure trolls’ noses a little on such a humiliating day for them.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:19 amI’m not afraid of these wingnuts as a group. I am afraid that the Beck and the other mouthpieces are trying to incite violence against President Obama.
But I do believe they have to be stopped NOW. Ignoring them just feeds their insanity. I heard the other day that the black community took notice when that idiot yelled “you lie”. I think what we need is our own MLK style walk with progressives of all colors uniting against this stupidity.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:22 amYou said it Einstein.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:23 amLuckily for Says Who’s mother she’s just as inbred and ignorant as he is so she’s not embarrassed by his stupidity.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:24 amI’m not the dipsh#t who sat out his big 9/12 meeting today Cheeto breath.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:26 amI see these ignorant, bigoted, mostly white people parading around with the ugliest of messages and wonder where they came from. This minority of loons has surfaced because the mob does rule and embolden harmful actions. My heart sinks when I think about the troops who were sent to Iraq and Iran to serve and protect the US. And I see people on the streets advocating a dismemberment of that union. What must they be thinking?? Over 4,000 have died in Iraq alone!! What must their families be thinking?? After all, Beck and fellow hatemongers dare to disrespect the office of President and refuse to accept that the majority voted for Obama in 2008. Those soldiers are living and dying in Iraq and Iran to spread democracy and yet Beck and friends would deny those same rights to the people in the US and in fact encourage dissolution of the Union. This nation is in two wars and as far as I am concerned these Loons including Beck are aiding and abetting the enemy. It’s time we treated them for what they are cowards and yellow bellies.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:31 amSWS,
Why do you hate innocent people who lost loved ones in this countrys largest terrorist attack?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:32 amKayInMaine says:
If Obama hates white people so much, how come he has a white Vice President, a white Chief of Staff, and lots of whites working in his Cabinet?
Don’t be silly Kay. Slave owners had house Nig@#$.
Surely you can see that’s what they are.
There just white.
Your fooled so easily.
/snark
September 13th, 2009 at 12:32 amCarmanK,
When you say mostly white people, you do mean something like 99.9% – right?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:33 amSays Who says:
Good to see Fox News (#1) covering the acorn scandal.
Me too. I like how America’s new channel reports on what we decide, even if its a few snippets from a home camera. These liberals ought to learn a thing or two about our brand of investigative journalism and cut out the reality-based reporting. Stop with the sources already, yeesh.
Fox is always ahead of the game, even if there’s no one else on the court.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:35 amWhoops. something just came up, I’ve got to go.
And I was so anticipating the response from SWS, who hasn’t answered the same question posed earlier.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:37 am‘Says Who’ is an acorn that fell way off the tree …
September 13th, 2009 at 12:38 amSays Who says:
No specifics about which 10 of the 9/11 families are loons, nor why he should refer to them as such. Nothing to stand on in defense of Beck but . . . looks like talking points from Beck. Never strong on detail or sense, are you, troll?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:38 amNo one can speak for the families of the 9/11 victims except for the other families. I would think that the families of the victims hate beck. How classy of beck to use 9/11 to further push his rightwingnut extremist agenda. Beck,limpdick,and the rest of the wingnut talkingheads are the voice of the repug party.Anyone who listens to these racist should be ashamed. They call libs unamerican? What a freakin joke. We libs care more about our country and the people who live here more than a wingnut could possibly comprehend.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:40 amMajii – You’re welcome!
Another update on attendance at the rally from TPM Muckraker – notice the snark at the end of the statement:
September 13th, 2009 at 12:40 am“Late Crowd Size Update: And it begins. The DC Fire Department has issued an unofficial estimate of 60,000 to 70,000 people in attendance, which is smallish by big DC protest/event standards but definitely respectable. Meanwhile, organizers and various participants are claiming one or two million have shown up but that the numbers are being suppressed by pro-Obama media, etc.“
Well, it goes without saying Beck is a racist. He might be a closet Grand Wizard of the KKK. Who knows. KKK members are all cowards, anyway.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:41 amThe only people who pay attention to beck are bigots.
Righties are all sad, whiny freaks.
Get it all out of your fussy systems, little Righties – crying and tantrum-tossing time is over, and it’s time to sit quietly through the rest of the ride.
We’ve all seen how immature and unintelligent you are, so there’s notihng left to act out about. We get it – you’ve got nothing to add.
Off to bed, you spoiled, nasty brats!!
September 13th, 2009 at 12:41 amSays Who says:
Good to see Fox News (#37) covering the acorn scandal.
What ACORN scandal?
You mean how the Census bureau dropped them because FAUX News was lying about them? I’d call that a “Census bureau scandal” actually.
None of the allegations that have ever been made about ACORN have been followed by a shred of evidence. Instead, each one is followed by another allegation, plucked straight from some frothing racist’s imagination. It’s clear that ACORN must be perfectly on the up and up, otherwise y’all would have found some dirt on them by now. And yet, you still fail, time after time after time.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:44 amAgain, slightly O/T, but another Republican of *high moral character* – kills girlfriend, then tries to kill himself – such tragedy they bring on themselves.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:44 amhttp://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/kentucky_gop_pol_found_with_slit_wrists_after_shoo.php?ref=fpb
Wow, ‘Says Who’, I have no choice but to break the sarcasm for a moment and note what a true piece of s/hit you are for calling any 9/11 family a loon. But I’m sure you idiots think you can spew your venom and still have that national security vote wrapped up, right?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:47 amInteresting comment from another blog: “Today was the day that the GOP’s rudder fell off and sank.”
September 13th, 2009 at 12:48 amWhile we progressives have known that for a long time they are now displaying their ignorance for the whole country to see. I believe we are watching the Republican party breathe it’s last gasping breaths.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:49 amWell said CarmanK @136.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:49 amSays Who (Not Much) 2 135
September 13th, 2009 at 12:53 amNah, We’ll leave the lying to you numbnuts. You do it so well.
Now Now every one. This is a person of the new west. Made from the common clay of earth, you know MORONS!!. Holy Smokes, racism is alive an well in America. I guess when you scratch the surface you don’t get blood you get stupid.
It does not matter what color a person is, what they do for a living, what part of the country they live in, if they are unemployed etc… We are all HUMAN Beings and should be treated with respect, dignity and decency. We are all Americans with the right to vote and lead this nation. If those we vote for can’t do the job, then it is our jobs to get rid of the bums. If you can’t say something nice, SHUT UP>
September 13th, 2009 at 12:53 amThese freaks fabricating the ACORN issue sat back idly while George Bush and his brother stole the 2000 election by strong arming pols to not legitimately recount the votes and caging and then have the Supreme Court hand it to him. But they’ve been crying about ACORN for two years with nothing to show for it. Really we have ourselves to blame for not taking to the streets of DC to protest the crowning of the successor to throne by the House of Bush flunky.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:55 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Says Who says:
He’s right. The 10 he refers to are moonbats.
Except it’s a lot more than 10 9/11 victims’ families who were upset about Bush invading Iraq due to their loss, when Iraq had nothing to do with it. That’s not being a “moonbat,” that’s objecting to having the memory of a lost loved one shat on by the GOP. Or is that how you define “moonbat” now?
What would you say if that happened to you? Like if some terrorist from Peru murdered your family, so the President used that as an excuse to attack Uruguay just because he wanted to? Wouldn’t you be upset about that? Would that make you a liberal or a conservative? Or maybe just a human being?
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Shayne says:
While we progressives have known that for a long time they are now displaying their ignorance for the whole country to see.
Civil rights legislation finally passed because the abuses of Southern police departments (dogs, firehoses, etc) against protesters were broadcast to a nationwide audience who were horrified at what they saw. That caused a lot of people who had been unwittingly tacitly supporting a racist system to take a finally stand against it. Perhaps this sort of thing will work in a similar reverse fashion: the nationwide audience seeing these maniacs will be horrified at their behavior and will take a stand against the insanity they’ve been tacitly supporting by voting Republican.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:03 amHey sayswho, Why do you come to TP and comment? Dont you think you might feel more at home on a rightwing blog.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:05 amI think you come here to learn the truth,your a freakin closet liberal arent you? Its 2009 its the in thing to come out of the closet. Its OK we wont tell your wingnut friends.
bluesunflower says:
Damn, there goes my dream that comments are voted on according to their actual content.
They generally are. But linkspammers get in here too, and they get voted down. You’ll notice the poll comment did not actually contain any content. That’s the problem.
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bluesunflower says:
I disagree. He seems more like shining proof of this site’s hypocrisy on a great many issues.
Example of hypocrisy?
If you’re talking about his general insulting tone, that’s not hypocritical at all. You know, from time to time a wingnut will come in here and complain that we’re not peaceful hippies and then extend the claim that we are therefore hypocrites. But here’s the problem with that: nobody here ever promised to be nice. I truly hate wingnuts, and I’m happy to tell them so in colorful language as I deem appropriate. Same with ED. His posts might be relatively thicker with the insults and lighter on the on-topic debate points, but that’s just a matter of degree.
If you’re complaining about his voting popularity – well, a lot of people just vote up things they agree with and down things they disagree with. And although ED goes farther than most, he’s typically expressing a point on which the majority here agree, particularly regarding the questionable parentage of occasional right wing participants.
If his tone turns you off, you’re free to vote his posts down. Perhaps some people here would like to start voting up/down based on higher content quantity or lower insult ratio, whether the post expresses right or left wing point. Perhaps that would be better. But I don’t think the voting feature is that big a deal anyways.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:11 amAn Alaskan blogger recently went to Ground Zero and took some wonderful photos of the various displays and memorials. She also did a very moving write-up of what she experienced. Glenn Beck ought to take a walk around the area, but I doubt he’d think any kinder about all who lost their lives.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:17 amhttp://www.themudflats.net/2009/09/11/open-thread-ground-zero/
9/11 could have been avoided if bush/cheney spent a little time and looked into the reports that the clinton administration gave to them. Binladen determend to strike on American soil. There was even evidence that Binladen was going to use commercial aircraft as missles. How much more information did bush need? I understand that bush is a clueless idiot,but someone in his administration must have seen the potential of a terrorist attack. Yesterday the history channel aired documentarys about 9/11.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:26 amWhenever I see pictures of the people who chose to jump it gets me angry. Ive been to the top of the WTC and its a long way down. I couldnt even imagine what those peolpe must have gone through. I blame bush. I wonder how bush would feel if he was brought to the top of the sears tower and given a choice. You can either be doused with jet fuel and set on fire, or jump. Yet these repugs and wingnuts always talk about bush/cheney keeping us safe. How pathetic.
ElBruce says:
Example of hypocrisy?
If you’re talking about his general insulting tone, that’s not hypocritical at all.
It’s plenty hypocritical to applaud EugeneDebs for telling someone they should off themselves, and then complain that people who do the same thing (who TP has extensively listed here) should be censored. Not to mention, as has been pointed out, that TP’s very rules insist on civility, which ED does nothing of.
And I’m sorry, but if you want to make a point and have it be taken seriously, the way to do it is with POINTS, not “you’re too stupid to live you moron communist fascist.” Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. Particularly when you’re acting like a hypocrite while you’re doing it.
It’s no wonder NONE of the trolls take him seriously, and neither do I. I’m rather surprised TP keeps him on when I’ve seen “trolls” who’ve said the same things – if not less – booted off. I’m constantly seeing people voted down NOT for the content of their comments, but because they’re going against the prevailing mindset of the others here.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:30 amCould you imagine for a split second what these protesters would have done if the Muslim/Islamic Americans protested Bush during the past 8 years? Consider how confrontational these righties would be in the face of those who wish to do the same as them but not of the same color.
I have yet to see one picture of any tea parties, tea baggers, or ‘protests’ that included someone of color or not your stereotypical middle-aged to senior citizen white persons.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:31 amAnd BTW, yes, I am *constantly* voting his stuff down. Much like I vote up people who I disagree with, but who have actual points.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:32 amVery tasteful little video.
I have to agree with Beck and the “white baby nation” sign carrier. I’ve known a number of folks, mostly white, who sat in pews in South Ron Talibabtist churches for years, saying amen and hallelujah, while the preacher carried on about race mixing abominations and all that kind of seg shit, and it certainly gave them their maintenance dose of racism for the week. I don’t know about ‘rub off’ or ‘wash over’, but there was some kind of effect.
OTOH, President Obama strikes me as the kind of guy with a pretty good reserve of scepticism about what the idiot in the pulpit is saying. Having spent much of my own time as a South Ron Talibabtist muttering ‘arsehole’ whenever a preacher spouted nonesense, I can easily imagine SOME other people doing likewise.
Not people like Beck though; guys like him would sit in a pew and scribble obscene crap in the hymnal or stare out the window (if it was transparent; not stained glass or etched or pebbled or some such) and just soak up what the preacher said subconsciously. He’d never pay attention to what a preacher or pastor said, and especially not if the guy was actually giving a bit of good advice instead of promoting some racist or political hobbyhorse. Of course, subconsciously is the only way guys like Beck get anything out of a sermon or homily, since there’s no particular consciousness there.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:34 amI’m constantly seeing people voted down NOT for the content of their comments, but because they’re going against the prevailing mindset of the others here.
Actually some people get voted down just because we don’t like them, and we really don’t want them to keep showing up. It really doesn’t matter what they say.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:37 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
bluesunflower, your concern is admirable but the topic of this thread isn’t the voting habits of visitors. Everybody has the right to vote based on whatever criteria is important to them. We don’t tell others how to vote around here.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:42 ambluesunflower says:
And BTW, yes, I am *constantly* voting his stuff down. Much like I vote up people who I disagree with, but who have actual points.
OK. To each their own.
For my part I often find that in long running debates with determined wingnuts, it’s often kind of useful to have ED or RHF hitting them below the belt while I engage their substantive claims. That kind of one-two punch can unhinge wingnuts so much that the entertainment value is just too good to do without. There’s a good example in this recent thread. Now, you can’t tell me that wingnut didn’t deserve what he got. Props to dixie blood in there too.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:42 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Funny there’s only one video of Reverend Wright going off. If he did it so frequently you’d think the reich would be able to find more evidence. And the popular video was from the Sunday after 9/11 and the Rev. was quoting a white admiral and diplomat. That’s how Fox lies.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:44 amWingnuts come to TP and complain about the vote up or down option. If your a lib and you post a comment on a rightwing blog than your shutout immediatly. Leftwing blogs will let wingnuts comment. You wingnuts know, freedom of speach and all. Rightwing blogs just hate it when libs bring facts to their site.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:48 am***
headline on people magazine:
STORM AND WHO SAY;
IT’S LOVE!
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 1:49 amMeet The (White) Man Who Inspired Wright’s Controversial Sermon
September 13th, 2009 at 1:50 amSee bluesunflower, you voted me down and I can live with it. Why are you so obsessed about the issue?
September 13th, 2009 at 1:51 ambluesunflower, you’re going off because people vote down spammers. You better learn to pick your battles before you get married or have children.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:58 amExcellent points in that thread, ElBruce. Very entertaining, too, your wingnut debate opponent went right off the deep end.
September 13th, 2009 at 2:00 am@ 20, Reggie says: STORM Sewer: Are you bitter because an African American was elected President by an overwhelming majority? Am I correct in assuming that you chose the name Storm because you are a racist? There is a nasty white supremacist site called Storm Front. Have you no s(h?)ame, Sir? September 12th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
& @ 28, Reggie says: Storm, are you a Bircher, birther, deather, truther, tenther, teabagger, racist, schlonger or Paulbot? All of the above? September 12th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Reggie, I think he probably took his name from “Der Sturmer”; the ‘u’ in Sturmer is actually an umlaut which some sources recommend representing as ‘ue’ if the umlaut is not available, but I digress. That’s Jules Streicher’s race-baiting “newspaper” that started in Weimar Germany and ran right through to the point where the Third Reich couldn’t print it any more. Sturmer can be translated as ’stormer’ or ‘attacker’. The term is certainly common enough in neo-nutzi circle(jerks).
September 13th, 2009 at 2:01 am***
ot,
from huffpo:
“gop gubernatorial candidate bob mcdonnell of virginia
blurted out the “f-bomb” during a live radio interview.”
*
September 13th, 2009 at 2:03 am“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi
September 13th, 2009 at 2:06 am*
#179.
pebble,
the real point is that storm’s position
is not out of the mainstream of the new republican
party. rachel does a good piece on that subject here.
:|
September 13th, 2009 at 2:09 amHow interesting.
September 13th, 2009 at 2:10 amSee I thought George W. Bush was, er, is a Nazi.
But I had some evidence, suspension of habeus corpus, spying on our domestic communications, etc.
These jackanapes got nothing but empty paranoia.
Wayne A. Schneider says:
Actually some people get voted down just because we don’t like them, and we really don’t want them to keep showing up. It really doesn’t matter what they say.
bluesunflower says:
Aha. Excellent way to preserve the hive mindset. :D
A meaningless comeback since your “hive mindset” dig is without foundation. We decide for ourselves which people we wish would go away. And we are not in agreement about everybody, so there clearly is no “hive mindset.” That is a product of your imagination.
September 13th, 2009 at 2:13 amWayne I still love the line a girl gave me once at a high school dance. It truly applies to the troll community.
Some people spread hapiness wherever they go.
Others spread hapiness whenever they go.
September 13th, 2009 at 2:16 amHey Joe @180, I am shocked at a repug using the f-bomb,just like im shocked at a repug commiting adultery. Repugs and their family values and morals they just dont do those things.
September 13th, 2009 at 2:17 amFreakin hypocrits.
RUCerious,
One of my favorite Woody Allen stand-up jokes from 45 years ago:
“I had my first experience with oral contraception the other day. I asked a girl to go to bed with me, and she said, ‘No.’”
September 13th, 2009 at 2:20 am@ 182, joe cantwell sez…
I’m more than sure that’s correct, joe. I’ve been stumbling over wingnuts from a time before they were officially called wingnuts. I occasionally allow meself to go into a quiet corner and congratulate myself for not having dopeslapped or codwalloped one; or worse.
As the rePublicrit hard-liners methodically empty the party of anything or anyone that won’t toe the ‘puro y duro’ party line, it’s going to look more and more like hell in a very small convention room – but with uniforms the S&M crowd will die for (literally and aesthetically).
I’ll check the Rachel video; she and her production team are pretty good on this subject.
September 13th, 2009 at 2:21 amjoe cantwell,
In fairness to the candidate, I think he simply misspoke when he started to say “funding”, and he let slip the wrong word first. It wasn’t like Shep Smith pounding the table and screaming, “This is the United States of America and we don’t f ucking torture!” (Now that was great!)
September 13th, 2009 at 2:22 amSure about that?
September 13th, 2009 at 2:25 amTeabaggers. Pathetic.
Good grief. How embarrassing!!
September 13th, 2009 at 2:29 am***
#189,
wayne,
hey i’ll give him a pass. but i have to agree with sscncturn64
that the hypocrisy these blue noses spew when anyone but
a conservative drops an f bomb is positively radiant.
*
:\
September 13th, 2009 at 2:30 ammgparrish,
That’s the first I ever heard of that scandal from 2008. I believe what ElBruce meant was that none of the allegations of voter fraud that the right wing have been tossing out there for years was based on a shred of evidence. True, people hired to collect signatures brought in phony registrations, but ACORN flagged them (which they were not required to do) when they turned them in to the election officials (which they were required to do, even though they knew they were fraudulent.) That would have been voter registration fraud, not voter fraud. Most of the cases I’ve ever heard about involding voter registration fraud were committed by people working for Republicans.
September 13th, 2009 at 2:32 am@ 188. I also meant to say, joe, that a lot of the wingnuts I’ve stumbled over in the last couple of decades were associating themselves with the rePublicrits, hence my supposition that you’re very solid on the assertion about them becoming the mainstream. My point is that they become mainstream by pushing any dissenters out.
Haven’t met any RPaulists here (NM) and not many Libertarians. A few independents, most of whom were really just apolitical out of disgust with both major parties.
September 13th, 2009 at 2:33 am***
#190,
more then ever.
*
thanks for the link.
:)
you can send donations here.
be generous.
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 2:35 ammgparrish says:
Sure about that?
Yes, 100%.
Your link doesn’t disprove anything I’ve said either. ACORN does good work in our communities and for our country. As an organization, it provides a number of valuable services. All claims to the contrary, as well as claims that they’re involved in anything shady as a group have all been proven to be imaginative lies followed by no evidence whatsoever.
But shall we compare any personal misdeeds by (in this case a relative of) leaders of organizations, say between ACORN and a variety of other private and/or public enterprises? I’m sure we could work up a heck of a list of right wing organizational leaders and corporate CEO’s to stack up against your link there. K Street? C Street? Enron? WorldCom? Lincoln S&L? Etcetera? Frankly that would be so easy I don’t even think I need to bother. If an individual embezzler could discredit the entire organization they embezzled from, there wouldn’t be many left. But I’ll bet you there’d be a lot more left wing ones standing at the end of the day than right wing ones.
September 13th, 2009 at 2:43 am***
#194,
pebble,
the current mainstream of the republican
party is very extreme. when i was a kid they
would have been lumped with the john birch
society and ignored. at that time (the ’60’s)
both former president eisenhower and national
review founder and publisher william buckley
kicked them to the curb. buckley said “the dictum
that anyone on the right is my ally has it’s limits.”
*
now the inmates have taken over the asylum.
pop quiz: who leads the republican party?
john boehner and mike steele or
glenn beck and rush limbaugh?
?
ot,
are you in new mexico?
there’s a special on lifetime about
georgia o’keefe that looks interesting.
you might want to check it out.
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 2:48 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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#198,
you’re blaming the victim?
looks like you’re the one who’s spinning.
:)
btw, wade rathke and his family
paid back the misappropriated funds.
***
would that enron had done the same
for the investors they defrauded.
they even cheated their own employees!
but a moral compass is something
that conservatives just don’t have, do they?
:|
September 13th, 2009 at 3:02 ammgparrish,
I think you’ll find that in most (if not all) of the cases, the people who committed the voter registration fraud were temps hired to collect new registrations, and not full-time ACORN people. ACORN assisted the authorities in their arrests of these people. Don’t try to make it sound like ACORN could never be trusted to collect voter registrations, because they utilize more safeguards against voter registration fraud than many other groups do.
September 13th, 2009 at 3:06 am#104 GG2b Thanks for the links!
#108 El Bruce Thanks for the info on how to find articles at HuffPo !
Appreciate the information.
September 13th, 2009 at 3:10 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Your comment simply does not set well with Beck, the racist. Glenn Beck belongs to a religious group with a very long history of racism and anti black thinking. However, I do not think that is the motivating factor in his racist remarks. He simply does not like people of color to be so “uppity” and even presume they could be elected to the Presidency of the US. It is like he popped up in the middle of the 1930 racist era and has never recovered.
September 13th, 2009 at 3:13 amAll I get from that dude’s sign is that “white America” is a giant baby. Yeah, that makes sense.
September 13th, 2009 at 3:29 am***
#202,
you’re easily confused,
:)
take a break,
enjoy some conservative comedy from fox.
:)
“my gawd”
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 3:33 amThis is what the world looks like through the lens of a 1950s high school education. You have to give the talk radio show hosts credit, they sure know how to play to it.
September 13th, 2009 at 3:42 amHES WHITE TOO!!! You know his MOTHER. The lady who he talks to fondly about. Give me a break. White AMERICA (southern) is destroying itself.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:11 amtklelmo21 says:
HES WHITE TOO!!! You know his MOTHER. The lady who he talks to fondly about.
He may view himself as half white, but from their perspective he’s just plain ol’ black.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:19 amHow long it will be before one of them opens fire on the others?
Death Panel
September 13th, 2009 at 5:43 amDon’t forget to tease the trolls about the fact that
September 13th, 2009 at 7:07 amGlenn Drama Queen Beck has lost 62 sponsors since the boycott started.
This older white woman supports health care reform and President Obama.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:23 amThis guy is a perfect example of someone mindlessly, uncritically, parroting what someone else (I’m looking at you, Beck) said without having any reasons for believing it.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:31 amInteresting… guess this person hates the Jews, too, considering that it was the angel Gabriel that presented the horse “Burak” to Mohammed. This must mean that the God of Abraham is evil.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:35 amKathy Frendling of Florida has made threats against President Obama from DC yesterday. Myself and others have already contacted the Secret Service about it:
http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2009/09/13/prudential-real-estate-agent-kathy-frendling-florida-public-threats-president-obama-twitter/
September 13th, 2009 at 8:51 amWhat we saw yesterday in DC, and what we see on Rabid Fox 24/7 is nothing but “pallin around with terrorists” If these people are not domestic terrorists, I don’t know what is.
None of them are worthy enough to be a pimple on the President’s arse.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:58 amThese people may be “stupid”, “ignorant”, “racist” and a whole host of other words. However whose case got the most media coverage yesterday and this morning? Seems to me that the “stupid” “ignorant” “racists” succeeded in capturing the message of the day – not us.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:07 amThe corporate owned, fascist MSM has given more coverage to this protest than to all of the world-wide anti-war protest leading up to the Botch War in Iraq combined.
Shameful.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:27 amDixie, the MSM is right wing. Always has been. Why do you think Clinton’s BJ was talked about non-stop during the 1990’s? And why do you think up until 2006, George Bush was protected from scrutiny on all the cable news channels, his wars applauded, and the MSM made sure not to talk about any hearings going on or about all the national and worldwide protests against the WORST PRESIDENCY IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY? Right wing! The MSM is right wing. Only KO and Maddow are truly liberal.
Oh wait. We were considered traitors to America for not worshiping George Bush for 8 years. Nevermind. That’s why our outrage was suppressed!
September 13th, 2009 at 9:42 amI’m admittedly late in coming to this thread, but I am a white woman who is about as pale-skinned as a person can be without being Albino, with white parents and a white stepfather, who was both Republican and a member of the NAACP. I am not sure if my stepfather would have gone as far as registering Democrat were he alive today, but he certainly would not be a Republiscum.
KayInMaine says:
September 13th, 2009 at 10:06 amI’m a white woman who is sick of white conservatives
FYI,
Becky Bond is the political director at CREDO.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:19 amKayInMaine,
I would like to see the MSM broken up and the Fairness Doctrine returned. Both would go a long way to bringing the voice of all of the people back to the table.
And Rupert Murdock should never have been allowed to buy media companies in this country. He acts as a foreign agent who hates a balanced democracy. He became a U.S. citizen so he could grow his empire not because he wanted to an American or loves this country.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:30 amI totally agree, Dixie. Want to hear something funny? Glenn Beck is always talking about the Fairness Doctrine and how unfair it would be for the right wingers in America who have national microphones like he does. Well, turns out, Beck likes to silence those who ask questions about him or who might say something about him that isn’t true:
http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=80636
I thought Glenny was all about the freedom of speech? Guess not! Only republicans are allowed to call the President a racist without a stitch of evidence to prove it! When the tables are turned, ole Blecky doesn’t like it!
Bring back the Fairness Doctrine! Force Glenn Beck to publicly defend himself!
September 13th, 2009 at 10:46 amour local teabaggers are all about freedom of speech until someone like myself exercises the right and flips them the bird as i drove by.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:54 amPresident Obama is not a racist. Some tea party goers are racist. Many or most tea party goers are not racist.
People protested George Bush when he was President. They did not protest against him because he was black.
People have protested Clinton, Bush senior, Reagan, Carter, etc.
Not because they are black. Because they disagree with their agenda or initiatives.
Attributing opposition to Obama as merely racism is disingenuous.
If tea party participants are merely racist, why do they cheer this man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PHc8oDszXE
September 13th, 2009 at 10:57 am“People protested George Bush when he was President.”
and were promptly branded as “unamerican” and “traitors” by the same teabagging morons i drove by yesterday.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:01 amHi KayinMaine, I hope that the SS pays that woman frendling a visit. I also think she should be fired. Have you heard anything else about her yet?
September 13th, 2009 at 11:09 ambackup, maybe they think he’s “one of the good ones.”
If you’re not familiar with that expression, here’s a link to a blog entry from a self-described recovering racist.
An excerpt:
When I was a kid, I remember hearing the “some of them are the good ones” discussions, and thinking this was accurate — that there were some “good ones” among the Black population, but that didn’t really mean they were equal.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:10 amWhen he stole the election in 2000 people protested but I never saw it on the news until Michael Moore put it in his movie. If I had I would have headed to DC to join in.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:27 ambackup, I do not feel that racism is the main reason that people hate Obama at these rallies, but I have a feeling that race gives these people justification to rally against Obama. Yes, they hate Obama’s “socialist” causes, but what if Obama was 100% white?
I don’t feel they would be as motivated to argue against Obama. I don’t think they’d have the bravery to contest him. I have a feeling that the fact Obama is different from the major percentage of the conservatives, both in appearance and policy, they will protest.
Would the birthers be contesting his certificate if he was born to a white European and a white American in Hawaii?
As for the video, I feel the only time conservatives see through the race is when they see the policy first. If the policy doesn’t agree with them, race becomes an underlying principle.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:37 am***
“People protested George Bush when he was President. They did not protest against him because he was black.”
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he’s not black.
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have you been drinking?
:|
September 13th, 2009 at 11:41 amTrollspotter. Here’s what I think it is.
It’s not about skin color. It’s about ideology.
People often harbor resentment for others that they disagree with ideologically.
It happens here every day. If I took a poll here and asked who dislikes or hates republicans or conservatives, I’d get a pretty good response and it would be overwhelmingly affirmative (people would say ‘yes’ they hate or dislike conservatives).
It’s natural and common for people to disagree intensely about politics. It’s been happening forever.
Now, if you consider that about 90% of black people vote for Democrat, it would be pretty easy (not right, but easy) for people to make the assumption that a black person is also a democrat. They would have 10 to 1 odds of being correct.
Republicans probably dislike Democrats as much as Democrats dislike Republicans.
More point is this: It would be easy to view intense differences in ideology between white people and black people as racism, but it discounts the history that we have always had intense ideological differences, despite the lack of racial component to attribute it to.
These protests aren’t new.
People strenuously oppose Obama, not because he’s black, but because their ideology differs dramatically from his.
And their aren’t many black faces in the crowd, because most black people voted for Obama. People that supported Obama would obviously be less likely to protest him now.
The country faces more serious circumstances than it has in recent history. People voted for significant change to address those circumstances. The problem is that change is worrisome, people fear it, and resist it.
They resist change, regardless of the color of the people trying to make the change.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:49 amPurple State. If you are saying that there are racists in the crowd and also people in the crowd that wouldn’t be there if Obama was white; I agree with you.
I think where I differ is in what extent of the crowd I believe is motivated by racism.
Progressives and administration supporters try to dismiss the crowds as being motivated by racism so they can avoid addressing the objections.
The racists holding the signs are in the crowd. The question is, what portion of the crowd do they make up?
My assertion is this: If the crowd is primarily racist, why do speakers like Cain and Weaver (link below) get enthusiastic welcome?
http://novus2.com/wordpress/?p=8234
There are racists in the crowd. Their numbers are being exaggerated to dismiss the other, more legitimate, objections about taxation and government scope.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:57 amThat’s just a convenient little nesting place to harbor the racism.
There is no other real issue here. It is all about race.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:58 am“Their numbers are being exaggerated to dismiss the other, more legitimate, objections about taxation and government scope.”
Backup, what legitimate objections about taxation and government? How many people in that crowd do you think have had their taxes raised in the last 8 months? And just what about the ’scope’ of the current government is any different from the Bush administration?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:04 pmFred. If it’s really about racism why are Cain and Weaver invited to speak and given warm, enthusiastic receptions?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:04 pmso they can be used and discarded when their usefullness has passed……
You’re not getting anywhere with this argument captain.
These people are all racists. They have no other reason to be doing what they are doing.
every one of the arguments they use to rationalize their racism falls short of being true.
just one for instance. If they are so upset about spending money, where the hell were they when bush was spending like a drunken sailor?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:10 pmJane. people have argued about taxation forever. People have argued about government spending forever.
I agree with Obama’s efforts.
It is reasonable, however, to believe that if we are spending significantly more money than we ever have before (both Bush and now Obama), those that are concerned about government spending and debt, will become more vocal.
I cede the point that Bush spent heavily and increased the debt. I also feel that his bailout accelerated the spending late in his administration and that has continued with Obama.
I see the virtue in the spending, but I recognize that it is at a much higher level than we have had since probably WWII.
That increased spending and increasing debt fueled by common partisanship (not racism) is what is bringing people out and causing them to be more vocal.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:11 pmFred. Let me ask it this way.
If you agree that we have had ideological differences and protests of our past administrations, wouldn’t you find it odd if we didn’t have them under an Obama administration?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:13 pmFrank Schaeffer Redux
Evangelical fundamentalists have indoctrinated a whole generation to view society as “the enemy” and be “subversives from within.” These people are as much “Enemies of the State” as Al-Qaeda
September 13th, 2009 at 12:17 pmbackup, you need to back up and take a bigger view of what is going on.
This is facism on the march and it’s not just here in the US. And facists are racists.
London:
September 13th, 2009 at 12:17 pmA Cabinet minister has raised fears of a return to 1930s fascism, comparing modern right-wing groups to Oswald Mosley’s Blackshirts.
This instead.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:19 pmA balanced budget act including a provision stating:
Individual states CANNOT receieve more tax dollars FROM the Federal Government than they send to the Federal Government.
Fred it is a Corporate INSURGENCY
September 13th, 2009 at 12:20 pmexactly dc. These same people were in power for 8 years and look where they took us.
Please backup, tell us why they didn’t address some of their concerns when they had power?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:24 pmFred. I can agree with you if you feel that the protests and manufactured and driven by partisanship.
I also think it’s hypocritical for people to come out of the woodwork now, when Bush engaged in heavy deficit spending for the last 8 years.
I just part ways when progressives simply chalk it up to racism.
I think charging racism flippantly, compromises the issue of racism and renders the charge less effective.
There are racists in the crowd. But, there is a substantial movement of people that resist increased tax burdens and attempts at nationalization.
There were probably people that joined protests against the war, simply because they didn’t like George Bush, but they should not have been used to dismiss those that had legitimate disagreement with the war.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:28 pmyou seem to be the one that’s being flippant about it. It’s damned serious and should be taken seriously on any level it is encountered.
Did you google the facist movement that is now becoming worldwide problem?
Can you wrap your head around the evil that these people represent?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:32 pmanyone in the crowd that is not a racist or a facist are being used. It’s history.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:33 pmBecause they have been motivated by partisan opponents of President Obama, it has become apparent that the spending has increased and will continue, and disagreement with moves towards nationalization that have occurred.
Combination of partisanship and the opponent’s recognition of President Obama’s and progressives pending implementation of significant change that they oppose.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:35 pmwhat kills me backup is that you would argue with us that all of these people know what they are protesting for.
I just explained in pretty clear terms that they obviously do not.
Do you deny that people can be manipulated with emotional issues to do things that are against their own best interest?
do you really believe that this is a “grass roots” movement?
really?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:35 pmthere, you said it. That is the whole thing in a nutshell isn’t it.
You can’t seriously argue that they slept through bush’s spending spree and then just woke up and now want to blame Obama for everything.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:37 pmFred. Conservatives think that Obama is the anti-christ. You tell me that conservatives are a racist, fascist movement.
Can you forgive me for being skeptical of both accusations?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:37 pmFred. I’m not arguing that conservatives are right.
I agree with you that if they were serious about debt they should have spoke up when Bush was spending billions in Iraq.
I do make the point that it is reasonable that the more spending increases and the more debt that we take on; those that oppose deficit spending and massive debt will become more and more vocal and oppositional.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:40 pmno you can’t, bush spent on war and nothing that actually helped America. Obama has spent to turn around the economy that these very people helped destroy. Sorry, aint buying it.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:42 pmYes and we told you bush was destroying our economy and rushing us into an unnessesary war too.
What were they telling you again?
When will you wake up and stop acting like what they say has any equivilancy with us?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:44 pmFred. I’ve read posts and feel like I agree with you on most of it.
I just don’t believe that the crowds are significantly racist and I don’t see conservatives as the fanatics that you do.
I do think that protestors are naive that they don’t recognize the recent stimulus has probably helped stabilize our economy and without a strong economy, there is no money to pay back debt.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:45 pmWhy am I not suprised to see our racist concern troll backed-up
September 13th, 2009 at 12:51 pmbottom feeding on a thread about racism.
And in making that statement you are admitting that we are right again. You just don’t want to hear it. Just as you didn’t want to hear that the Iraq war was drummed up for political and economic gain at the time that was happening.
You will admit we are right when? When they start killing people?
September 13th, 2009 at 12:52 pmFred,
There is nothing to discuss with the whack a trolls. They need to be killed, one and all. This gives the basic jist of what we are up against.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/glenn-beck-and-the-912-ma_b_284387.html
No better reading for a SUnday afternoon.
backup is here to do just that, he thinks he can back us up. It ain’t gonna happen bub, you are dead to me. FREDO
September 13th, 2009 at 12:52 pmI will no longer try to convince the idjits of anything, and will plan on taking out as many as I can within my lifetime. This was the consensus on the Death Panel.
They are gonna have a lead pipe, I will have a razor and slit their throat.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:52 pmRedux
Evangelical fundamentalists have indoctrinated a whole generation to view society as “the enemy” and be “subversives from within.” These people are as much “Enemiew of the State” as Al-Qaeda
September 13th, 2009 at 12:53 pmeasy there dc, I don’t want to kill anyone. I want to force them to have a better life despite their stubborn ignorance.
They are Americans too. I just want to edumacate them.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:55 pmFred:
Don’t bother playing defense against backed-up, he doesn’t play fair.
Every time he posts here he makes the thread all about him.
He will talk in circles and end up completely changing the subject.
Kick him in the proverbial balls and then when his head goes down, finish him off with quick flurry.
It’s really easy and if you have a few minutes we can take care of this pesky racist concern troll.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:57 pmFred. I’ve listened to you. I initially supported the Bush administrations efforts in Iraq. It took a long time, but I eventually came to your position or the progressive position. It was a mistake.
I’ve also listened to people that have made the case the short term deficit spending can be beneficial. I agree with that.
It’s not that I don’t want to hear those positions. I say how I honestly feel and admit that my mind changes slowly.
I try to stay engaged and open to the ideas you have.
Gotta split. see ya.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:59 pmReggie. I’ll catch you next time.
Live long, Black Knight. : )
September 13th, 2009 at 1:01 pmBacked-up declares victory and runs away with his tail between his legs, just like he did the last two times we met online.
Poor cowardly Captain Mantastic is hilarious calling me the Black Night.
Projection?
September 13th, 2009 at 1:06 pmYou stay classy, America…
September 13th, 2009 at 1:10 pm“…we have had ideological differences and protests of our past administrations, wouldn’t you find it odd if we didn’t have them under an Obama administration?”
From Day One?
Give up, backup, there’s no legitimate excuse for these protests.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:19 pmDeath Counselor says:
I think you crossed the line with those comments, nobody here wants to see death threats and talk of using knives on other bloggers.
I hope you weren’t sent here to post that crap to use against Think Progress on other blogs.
I saw something similar happen last night at LGF and it ended up being posted at several stalker blogs this morning.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:22 pmHaving known racism existed in our country in a rather small percentage, I was/am quite surprised at how many white racists there really are.
As a white man, I’d like to apologize to every non-white in the U.S. for what they must experience on an almost every day basis.
I really had no idea.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:25 pmI too would rather see DC scrap the calls for violence, or just go away. That kind of talk helps no one but the bad guys themselves.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:32 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
and I won’t support facists. So?
Is hitler your hero?
September 13th, 2009 at 1:43 pmPegging the dipshit meter…..
September 13th, 2009 at 1:44 pmGeez country club, you really are showing your colors there. I’ve read enough of you the past day or so. It’s comments like yours that drove me to post an apology.
You are a close minded neanderthal. I’m afraid there is no hope for your personal evelotion.
What a sick minded individual you are. You must have a great time with your friends talking about stopping the black commie from taking over the u.s.
Sick fuc*s all.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:45 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Man you are too sick to respond to.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:50 pmKay in Maine: awesome catch on that ugly Frendling beyotch – I just called her cell phone and told her that her Tweets are all over the internet, that we were watching her and that her career is toast.
It felt *very* good. Thank you!
~A
p.s. I posted it to another large website. Spread the word, baby!!
September 13th, 2009 at 1:51 pmBy separating America into “white” and “other-than-white”, Glenn Beck has finally admitted his racism. Could he be a white supremacist? Anyone surprised?
September 13th, 2009 at 1:51 pmCountry Club Conservative, yeah and you believe the earth is flat too, right?
September 13th, 2009 at 1:54 pmFred,
Careful wit ccc (kkk), I don’t make it a habit of talking to the disheveled smelly guy holding a sign and yelling on the subway platform.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:56 pmCCC – if you think Hitler – an avowed right wing Christianist white supremacist – held “progressive ideals” you are obviously so full of shit your eyes are brown.
The only way your idiotic comment can be made to make sense is if the “progressive ideals” Hitler espoused are defined properly: an ALL WHITE CHRISTIAN THEOCRACY where women had pretty Aryan babies and stalwart blonde Aryan males presided.”
Sorry, bub – those are YOUR ‘progressive ideals’ – not mine.
September 13th, 2009 at 2:00 pmLeftside Annie, ccc and the other trolls try to claim credit for freeing the slaves too. they think Lincoln was a conservative…..heh.
September 13th, 2009 at 2:09 pmCountry Club Conservative says:
Hitler was a national socialist and held progressive ideals. No, hitler was not my hero. Hitler was an example of what happens when progressives get too much power.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
I weep for the education system in this country.
I’d tell you to crack a book, but I know I’d be wasting my time.
September 13th, 2009 at 2:26 pmZooey says:
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Country Club Conservative says:
Hitler was a national socialist and held progressive ideals. No, hitler was not my hero. Hitler was an example of what happens when progressives get too much power.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
I weep for the education system in this country.
I’d tell you to crack a book, but I know I’d be wasting my time
I totally agree with you on that. You know, I think it’s funny when I hear people say things like this or my all-time favorite “Hitler was a Socialist Commie”, since that just shows their lack of education. Any normal person would remeber that hitler was a fascist, and fascism is an exteremely conservative gvmt.
September 13th, 2009 at 3:02 pmOh how times change.
Seems like only yesterday they were up in arms over his MIDDLE name.
September 13th, 2009 at 3:12 pmWhatever, dude. You guys stick with the low road, and I’ll keep the high road. I find more success that way. In the very least, I look less Glenn Beck-like and more like President Obama.
Because to you, being a racist scum (YOU) is taking the high road little teabagistan terrorist. Leave the country you hate NOW!
September 13th, 2009 at 4:46 pmI am somewhat sorry I missed this freakshow…
September 13th, 2009 at 6:05 pmI’m sure there will be plenty more, dbad….
….something just tells me….
September 13th, 2009 at 6:59 pmCountry Club Conservative says:
Hitler was a national socialist and held progressive ideals. No, hitler was not my hero. Hitler was an example of what happens when progressives get too much power.
That is the exact opposite of truth.
Fascism has always been a right-wing phenomenon. Fascists and Communists have always been bitter enemies. They’re the exact opposite of each other, except in their disregard for democracy.
Today, Fascism is called “unitary executive theory,” and sometimes “wartime Presidential powers.”
All fascists are (and always have been) extremist right-wingers. All extremist right-wingers are (to a greater or lesser extent) fascists.
What you just said would be like you coming in here and telling us that gravity makes things fall up.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:52 pmFred says:
easy there dc, I don’t want to kill anyone. I want to force them to have a better life despite their stubborn ignorance.
They are Americans too. I just want to edumacate them.
No they are not, did you read the link that Grandma posted?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/glenn-beck-and-the-912-ma_b_284387.html
“In the early 1970s the evangelicals like my late father and James Dobson decided that the our society had fallen so far “away from God” and so far from “America’s Christian history” that it was time to metaphorically decamp to not just another country but to another planet:. In other words virtually unnoticed by the media and mainstream political operatives, a big chunk of American society seceded from the union in all but name.”
They no more think they are Americans than you think you are a Communist.
They will do everything in their power to kill you. You are not fully appreciating the true nature of their evil.
They are “the evil within.” “There is no rationlizing with them. They do not want to even understand facts and figures. Like the article said
“It means that there’s a whole subculture within American culture that mistrusts facts precisely because they are facts. They glory an alternative view of not just politics but of reality.”
They have not the inclination to listen to reason, they are biding time till they can kill every last LIBERAL. That is not only “bluster” it is thier true underlying mantra.
I had come to this same conclusion on my own, and thought I was just going overboard, but now this tells me I have made the correct assesment of these treasonous scumbags.
I will take out as many of these Repuke traitors before I let them take my country or harm me and my family.
You people are deluding yourselves thinking you can even rationalize with them.
“The kindly liberal reasonable bubble of an open free culture in which reason, argument in fact prevails is far removed from the other America, one of militia training camps, fundamentalist churches, parents who follow Dobson’s “parenting” advice by “breaking” their children and whipping them (as Dobson tells them to do in his books) and thus raising the damaged and dangerous automatons of biblical vengeance and sadism.
The Last Chess Game You’ll Ever Play
What reasonable people don’t understand is this: if one person is playing chess abiding by the rules and their opponent is losing at the chess game it may appear that they have lost the match. But what if one person is willing to change the rules? For instance, if you’re playing chess against someone who — if they start losing — takes a lead pipe out of their back pocket and smashes you over the head with it the “rules” change.”
“To understand the Religious Right today and how dangerous they are don’t think politics — think serial killers who “win” by “getting even” with the society they perceive as having disrespected them. It isn’t about facts. It isn’t about election results. It isn’t about truth. It’s about victimhood and revenge on the “elite” in other words on everyone not like you.”
They are dead inside, no one is home. They have allowed themselves to become zombified, and how do you get rid of zombies?
September 13th, 2009 at 8:47 pmHow do you think “The FAMILY” on C-Street is getting its rationalization to being in existance?
Death Counselor,
How did you come to the conclusion;
“They will do everything in their power to kill you.”
Just curious.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:53 pmFalse alarm, it’s a hit and run.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:59 pmRich,
September 13th, 2009 at 9:33 pmNow I am here, are you still?
I came to the conclusion by listening to the radio-talk monkeys. Do you not hear Limpballs or Levin (hiding in his bunker) say these things, that the world would be better off without liberals. ANd Liberals are “the problem.” This is nothing new. Try tuning in. It is a real awakening.
If you think they would not kvell at the idea of offing all liberals you are more naieve than my 17yo son who sees them wanting liberals dead. Malkin, COulter, Savage, do you even listen to these ass-puppets?
#289 Death Counselor: “I will take out as many of these Repuke traitors before I let them take my country or harm me and my family. ”
Then you have become exactly like those you fear.
Despite the evident erosion in the democratic principles that founded this nation, we are NOT at the point yet where the RULE OF LAW is so corrupted that it no longer has any meaning.
President Obama’s election and the Democratic majority, faled though it is, is at least testament to that fact.
SO, either CALM DOWN and stop acting like no-one here is ignorant of the terrible creep of antidemocratic forces at work in this country, or SOD OFFwith your no-way-out total-anarchy siege-mentality .
September 13th, 2009 at 9:42 pmCORRECTION: SO, either CALM DOWN and stop acting like everyone here is ignorant of the terrible creep of antidemocratic forces at work in this country, or SOD OFF with your no-way-out total-anarchy siege-mentality.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:44 pmThank you I will attempt to calm down, as I ame to these conclusions years ago under Bush, and now reading this today just set me off. It is very scary to read what you thought, and felt couldn’t be true.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:50 pmMan, I need a beer.
Gnight. Sorry. I will try not act on my fears, no matter the justification they may have been given by others.
Death Counselor.
I read your comments on a previous TP thread, a lot of violent verbiage (”KILL THE CORPORATIONS”_.
I noted you made a correction to one comment “ridiculous Obamacare should have been in quotes”
That and one other simple and direct comment suggested to me that you weren’t actually a ‘mole-troll’ ( the TP has long experience of such people who chew the scenery to then deposit a comment that they can then claim is representative of the Left, on Right wing blogs–such comments then get used by the likes of O’ReillY).
It appears to me that the Right Wing IS more powerful and more antidemocratic than ever before and I think there’s a lot of evidence to support that.
BUT….
Some of this perspective is due to simply finally payoing attention and giving a damn. Look into what Roosevelt went through and you will see the same old stuff from the Right, and they had very much the same power then as now.
Have an imported berr, or an American micro brew, and know that there are people here who know a hell of a lot more than I do for instance, who still haven;t been driven crazy yet.
So chill.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:06 pmI was hoping human beings could be something more than biological recording and playback machines.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:29 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
September 13th, 2009 at 10:31 pmAtlas says:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw
If you’re going to post links, tell me why I should click them. Like what they say and stuff.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:53 pm@ 280, Leftside Annie says: CCC – if you think Hitler – an avowed right wing Christianist white supremacist – held “progressive ideals” you are obviously so full of shit your eyes are brown. … Hitler espoused … CHRISTIAN THEOCRACY September 13th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
L. Annie, most of that comment is on the mark, but the christian/christianist part isn’t. My own reading of that period in our history leads me to understand that Hitler and his party considered the church to be a rival for political power. They worked to bring the Protestant state church, the Lutherans, to heel, putting various theologians, such as Dietrich Bonhoeffer in the prison camp system, as well as a number of Lutheran clergy. Those Lutheran dissenters were accompanied by more than a few Roman Catholics and other Protestants.
The goal that Hitler and his henchmen were (probably) working toward was state control of the church in a way very similar to what the communist parties of Russia (the Soviet Union) and China achieved in their seizure of the “church”. Essentially, in the USSR, the Russian Orthodox church became a puppet of the party, and was infiltrated from top to bottom by the internal intelligence department of the KGB. In China, the party still requires that Rome not appoint bishops unless they are approved by the party, and the party maintains control over an official public church.
All the indications with Hitler are that he was personally not particularly religious in the ordinary sense; my recollection is that as a child he was subjected to Catholicism, and he went past being simply a lapsed Catholic to being anti-Catholic. OTOH, he approved of Himmler and the SS resurrecting elements of the old German/Nordic pagan religions. Went right along with his taste for Wagner.
September 14th, 2009 at 12:36 amAfter all the damage the ‘white’ male has inflicted on America, over the last 300 + years, I really think that they are truly scared of some kind of retaliation from OUR president. BUT unlike them(the white males), Obama is a bigger man then any of them and is proving it every day.
September 14th, 2009 at 10:57 amBe proud America, we got us a winner…..
The overtly racist signs are not nearly as disturbing as ones threatening violence, particularly gun violence aimed at the president. It smacks of treason.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:00 amThey make a lot of noise, and I don’t want to downplay the significance of that, but let’s take another look at some of the numbers involved.
There were 184+ million Americans registered to vote in the 2008 election cycle. Over 130 million voted.
Beck’s best day audience is about 3 mil, or about 1.6% of reg. voters. Subtracting those who are there out of curiosity or to view the latest train wreck, he probably has a hardcore audience of 1% of registered voters. Even if one multiplies that by a factor of 10, it’s still nothing to tear your hair about.
Highest unbiased estimate I’ve seen of T-bag crowd in DC is about 75K. Pretty limp, and their message is turning a LOT of independents off. They don’t seem to realize that, and are so egotistical, still think they can still somehow stage some kind of coup or bring about a radical change in government or the direction of the country.
Let’s don’t completely underestimate them, but neither should we fear them as a political movement. The numbers just aren’t there, and when they come against hard reality, they WILL fade. Keep the faith, Brothers and Sisters (… and REALLY focus on the .000001 percenters like Timothy McVeigh)
September 14th, 2009 at 12:26 pmWhat bothers me most about these gass-bags are the signs, they aren’t clever at all. No brains, no creativity. They really are a sad lot.
September 14th, 2009 at 3:09 pmThank you for your sharing.!
September 16th, 2009 at 11:34 pmDead on the money except for one small detail. Obama isn’t a communist estetik.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:29 am