Hutchison Claims That Only A ‘Few’ Of Obama’s So-Called ‘Czars’ Have ‘Formal Titles’
Hutchison Claims That Only A ‘Few’ Of Obama’s So-Called ‘Czars’ Have ‘Formal Titles’
On July 30, the Washington Post gave House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA) space to write an op-ed railing on President Obama’s “virtual army of ‘czars.’” Today, the Washington Post allowed Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison to write a similar op-ed complaining that these czars set “a dangerous precedent that undermines the Constitution’s guarantee of separated powers.” Hutchison tries to make these officials seem shady and mysterious by noting that many of them don’t even have “formal titles”:
Nearly 250 years later, these critical lines of separation are being obscured by a new class of federal officials. A few of them have formal titles, but most are simply known as “czars.” They hold unknown levels of power over broad swaths of policy. Under the Obama administration, we have an unprecedented 32 czar posts (a few of which it has yet to fill), including a “car czar,” a “pay czar” and an “information czar.” There are also czars assigned to some of the broadest and most consequential topics in policy, including health care, terrorism, economics and key geographic regions.
In fact, ALL of these officials have formal titles. For example, Hutchison cites Van Jones, the “green jobs czar.” But Jones had the title of Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise, and Innovation at the Council on Environmental Quality. The only person Obama has referred to as a czar is “drug czar” Gil Kerlikowske, whose official title is Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy. (Additionally, “drug czar” was a term that existed long before the Obama administration.)
Hutchison’s lie mirrors a claim by Fox News’ Sean Hannity, who recently said that the only reason he calls these appointees “czars” is “because the White House itself does.” Of course, it’s the media — not the White House — that is driving the term.
Hutchison does not list the 32 individuals whom she considers to be “czars.” But if she’s relying on the same list as Cantor — who also cited 32 people — then several of them are far from unaccountable; they’ve actually already been confirmed by the Senate.
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Ok I’m confused wasn’t it President Bush who started the Czar positions? If anyone knows please help me out here thanks.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:05 pmI have here in my pocket a list of 32 czars in the State Department …
September 13th, 2009 at 4:08 pmMeet the newest GOP boogie-man! The CZARS! Quick! Hide under your bed! Even though Reagan and Bush 1 had CZARS, they aren’t as scary as Obama’s! Because he is a black man. Oops! I mean because he is a Democrat!
September 13th, 2009 at 4:09 pmTell me one thing.
Why are progressives defending the Democratic party?
Reality check.
NONE of this will be solved until we outlaw the outlaws in DC. The lobbyists who buy members on BOTH sides of the aisle.
You can bloviate all you want with reason. Not going to do you a dam bit of good.
You need to fight back by taking money AWAY from these scoundrels. It’s all about MONEY.
If you really want to make a difference begin by targeting one bank, close your account and while you are walking away make sure they know you are tying this to the filthy rich lobbyists and the MONEY they are GIVING to make laws to break our back.
Break their back. Use your money wisely. TAKE IT AWAY from them.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:17 pmYou laugh it up, but the people won’t stand for their country being run by Czars! They’re going to rise up in a revolution against Czarist rule!
Wait, that sounds familiar.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:17 pmWonderful. The new, but still fact-free ‘KayBee’ Hutchinson (R-TakesUs).
Can’t these witless boobs (no pun intended, KayBee) come up with a better stick to poke the Dems with? Ah well, I suppose the electorate in TX and other points south will just eat it up.
OTOH, I suppose that KayBee was asleep or doing something else on the orientation day when it was explained that every executive and executive administrator and executive advisor position in the executive has an executive title associated with the executive office they work in. They are probably even listed by title in the Office of Personnel Management budget document detailing salaries for appointees, whether approved by the Senate or not.
Trolling may now commence.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:18 pmThe czar title goes back at least to Nixon (see the Doonesbury series on Bill Simon as the energy czar then the finance czar for a good giggle). Nice to see that pom pom Kay has awakened like a cicada from her eight year coma (anyone remember Rove Addington or the pre-AG Gongo ever being confirmed for any position? Me neither). I don’t have any hope for the Republics at this point but it is still sad to see that the Post has not come out of the death spiral that started around the time Woodward put on the French maid outfit for the Bush administration.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:20 pmTruth is kryptonite to some people
September 13th, 2009 at 4:22 pmThey have job titles. The GOoPers are just so stupid, incurious, and devoted to opposition, that they can’t bother learning all those big words.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:22 pm@ 1, Jackie sez: Ok I’m confused wasn’t it President Bush who started the Czar positions? If anyone knows please help me out here thanks. September 13th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Nope. You can’t blame the Shrub for that one. Or his daddy either. The first known usage of ‘czar’ as shorthand for a presidential executive, non-cabinet, appointment was by Richard Milhous Nixon. The positions, mostly advisory and executive administators of policy, go back much further, perhaps predating the Civil War.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:24 pmThe term existed before Dubyer, but he did use the term, for one, AIDS Czar.
The word, however, can also be used in the same sense as Kaiser, Caesar or Tsar.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:26 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
re; @ 1 and 8; dang, paleolib, ya beat me to it.
That’s OK though; having considered it, the subject may be worth a little research. I think we’re both correct, that the ‘czar’ term goes back to Nixon, but the actual usage of appointees that run policy offices and advise at the executive level goes back considerably further, but how far is an interesting question.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:28 pm@ 13. cccConguy… That’s erroneous. ‘Czar’ goes back at least as far as RMN: see 8 and 11.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:31 pmThe republicans are using the word, Loontzian style, to frame their opponents as communist, which many people, wrongly, think to have originated in the Russian nation. Thats clearly not the case and this politicians should stop the McCarthyist fear mongering.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:34 pmShe’s a hypocrite.Never once complaining about the Bush czars. The promblem rests with the public.We are gullible,uninformed,and stupd.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:37 pmSeptember 13th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
OT
House may vote on formal rebuke for Rep. Wilson outburst
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-09-13-wilson-vote_N.htm
September 13th, 2009 at 4:39 pmBeing from Texas there really isn’t that much difference between her and nut job Rick Perry.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:41 pmI take that back, Perry spends more time fixing his hair.
“Hutchison Claims That Only A ‘Few’ Of Obama’s So-Called ‘Czars’ Have ‘Formal Titles’”
The Party of No have no new ideas, no new thoughts, no new agenda, and no new plan for the American people. And what is Katie Confused Hutchinson bellyaching about? Obama’s czars and the titles? Is this the most important issue in this country, Katie, Obama’s czars? Stay classy, Katie….
September 13th, 2009 at 4:42 pmThanks I forgot all about Nixon. I should have paid more attention during the Nixon years I didn’t pay attention until Watergate Hearings.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:43 pmI was going to say something along the lines if “I can has editor?” or maybe ombudsman, but then I read
and realized the thread had been won.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:48 pmI invite Hutchinson to list the names of “czars” who don’t have formal government titles. Or perhaps that’s unknown also. They’re like ghosts – nameless, don’t have any job duties, don’t have any titles, don’t answer to anybody… Nobody knows who they are, what they do or what powers they have. And yet, these pols keep claiming to know exactly how many they are.
It’s real simple: if you hold “unknown levels of power over broad swaths of policy” then you don’t hold any power at all. All powers and duties of the executive branch are explicitly created by acts of Congress and are a matter of public record. If you don’t have a job title, then you’re not a part of government. That’s how government works.
By the way, here is a list of “czars” by President:
Franklin Roosevelt: 12 positions, 19 appointees
Harry Truman: 6 positions, 6 appointees
Dwight Eisenhower: 1 position, 1 appointee
Lyndon Johnson: 3 positions, 3 appointees
Richard Nixon: 3 positions, 5 appointees
Gerald Ford: 1 position, 1 appointee
Jimmy Carter: 2 positions, 3 appointees
Ronald Reagan: 1 position, 1 appointee
George H. W. Bush: 2 positions, 3 appointees
Bill Clinton: 7 positions, 11 appointees
George W. Bush: 35 positions, 46 appointees (winner!)
Barack Obama: 32 positions, 35 appointees
I believe Nixon was the first President to use the term itself, but the term had been applied by the media long before that.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:49 pmCzarist-communist-fascist-socialist. Poopy-pants.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:52 pmLibs, agree to a Capitulation czar and we’ll back off!
September 13th, 2009 at 4:53 pmHutchison Claims That Only A ‘Few’ Of Obama’s So-Called ‘Czars’ Have ‘Formal Titles’
Shorter Hutchinson:
“He’s a democrat and even worse, he’s a dirty ni99er. Only Conservate whites are allowed to have czars. Not Ni99ers”.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:53 pm“A few of them have formal titles, but most are simply known as “czars.” They hold unknown levels of power over broad swaths of policy.”
Wow. She must have known it was a complete lie as soon as that sentence popped up in her head.
The only person Obama has referred to as a czar is “drug czar” Gil Kerlikowske, whose official title is Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy.
And as it happens Hutchinson voted yes to confirm the “drug czar”
September 13th, 2009 at 4:56 pm@13, She’s right. ???? What a thoughtful anaylsis! Do tell me more! The wisdom is just pouring forth! Snark.
September 13th, 2009 at 4:57 pm#8
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September 13th, 2009 at 5:00 pm“A few of them have formal titles, but most are simply known as “czars.” They hold unknown levels of power over broad swaths of policy.”
Wow. She must have known it was a complete lie as soon as that sentence popped up in her head.
The only person Obama has referred to as a czar is “drug czar” Gil Kerlikowske, whose official title is Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy.
And as it happens Hutchinson voted yes to confirm the “drug czar”
Hypocrite Hutchinson has no room to talk.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:01 pmThe fact of the matter is this, instead of the Rethuglicans and the rest of the haters and fear mongerers having to remember LIAR, COMMUNIST, FASCIST, SOCIALIST, ELITEST, CZARIST, POWER GRABBER,REVEREND WRIGHT,BILL AYERS, ACORN ETC ETC ETC they only need to remember the only thing that REALLY matters after all UPPITY NI–ER.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:02 pmMark Twain said something like, “A lie can travel half way around the world before the truth has a chance to get its boots on.” And the Republicans know this. Cantor and Hutchinson are lying (well, misleading people, at best), and it isn’t for any noble reason, either.
They lie because it works. They lie because they know that the people to whom they are directing their remarks will not check to see if what they heard is true. And when they hear it being debunked several days later, they won’t believe the debunkers. Because for some reason defying all logic and explanation, those people simply will not accept the idea that Cantor and Hutchinson would ever lie to them.
And the Republicans can see absolutely no reason to start telling the truth now.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:03 pmThis lady has no business representing anyone, anywhere.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:04 pmThats a good list EB.
Lets look at recess appointments that didnt require senate confirmation.
I could not find any recess appointments for PBO, someone else may know of some…
September 13th, 2009 at 5:05 pmPoor Kay, she can’t help it. As one ages, the memory begins to fade. How is she supposed to remember that any of these “czars” have been confirmed by the Senate, of which she is a member. Whether or not she approved of them, she just can’t remember who they are.
Obama is not the first, nor the only one, to appoint czars. Actually, that term is something the media seems to like; what ever happened to director?
September 13th, 2009 at 5:06 pmGeorge W. Bush: 35 positions, 46 appointees (winner!)
Right, but the current czars spit out their freedom fries while the great Bush czars couldn’t get enough of them. My party has a real (nut)case here.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:06 pmRecent history shows that the R’s use the recess appointment [NO Senate Confirmation] more than the D’s
Bush Jr appointed two Judges, without senate confirmation using recess appointments. So all this about confirmation, by party, is just more politician/pundit hyperbole.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:09 pmLOL! Look at the chioce Texans have to make. Good ole Kay or ‘I want to secede’ Perry. Jeez. Talk about worse of two evils!
September 13th, 2009 at 5:10 pmWhat really pisses me off about this whole subject is that the Republics are acting like these Czars are a construct of President Obama’s. They seemed to forget that Bush had lots of Czars himself. On the other hand, if the Republics would stop holding up President Obama’s appointments, maybe he wouldn’t need to many Czars. How many appointments are they currently holding up? I’m thinking it’s a lot because I know that Obama doesn’t have near the number of people he needs to get his job done. And this is by design by the Republics. Keep Obama from having the help he needs because then he may fail.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:10 pmWell, the internet has closed the tortoise [truth] and hare [lie] gap fairly well.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:10 pmIn related news, ‘Sen.’ Hutchison claims that she’s ‘intelligent’……….then she called Hannity and exclaimed,’You know Sean, you’re right about everything!’
September 13th, 2009 at 5:11 pmI don’t recall, did the Democrats complain this much about Bush’s czars? I know we did lots of complaining about what Bush was doing, but we got call un-American for criticizing the Commandar-in-Chief.
That reminds me, we are still at war, so is it un-American to criticize President Obama?
September 13th, 2009 at 5:11 pmI strongly suspect that the term czar is used more frequently now and more pejoratively because in relation to Obama, it sounds so much more un-American! After all, they don’t believe he is American, they don’t believe he was born here; they believe he is determined to make us a fascist, or communist, or socialist nation therefore, czar subtlely reinforces that in the minds of the tenthers, birthers, and otherwise obliviously fact-free.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:11 pmShorter Hutchinson: Hare! Hare! Hare!
September 13th, 2009 at 5:12 pmCountry Club Conservative says:
Shes right
Well, of course she is not.
All of these appointees have titles.
They answer to a higher up who is either an appointee who has been approved by congress or the President himself.
Jesus, can you imagine how long it would take to get positions filled if they all had to be approved by the Senate? As it is there are a number of unfilled positions within the administration because they are held up by idiot Republicans within the Senate.
And just like the 9/12 folks yesterday who made not a peep while Bush broke this country and wiped his azz with the constitution, I refuse to pay any attention to Kay who has suddenly noticed all these “czars” (Bush had 32) running around.
Did she forget that her buddy from Texas, Karl Rove, was an advisor who did not go though the approval process?
September 13th, 2009 at 5:13 pmKay Baily Huchinsen, Another dipwad repuglican from the great state of Texas. What an embarrassment to be from Texas. Go home and crawl back unda’ ya’lls rock. You aint worth a plug nickel in my book. I am one of your consituants and by golly I should run against you.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:13 pmI know this is off topic. But have you noticed how MSM dropped the whole 912 march? (except Faux News) It seems the righties played too loose with the numbers. 2 Million??? Yeah right. Try 50,000 to 70,000. And even some are saying that’s too generous. Just like the ‘Tea Baggers’ A movement that never was.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:15 pmNo, CCC, you want her to be correct. The facts tell a whole different story
September 13th, 2009 at 5:15 pmWhat’s this – a fussy R lady pandering to the dummies over a teapot tempest!?
Stop the presses, before Texas has a fainting spell. (again)
September 13th, 2009 at 5:17 pmYou know why I dislike Texas?
September 13th, 2009 at 5:17 pm-Hutchinson
-Perry
-nimrod Phil Grahmm
-Bushes
-fake cowboys
-any right winger in congress
-the bigger and badder attitude.
Leave anyone out?
tony and lido
“Actually, that term is something the media seems to like…”
Marie, I consider ‘czar’ to be like ‘-gate’ being used for every political scandal. It’s meaningless.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:18 pmYa know, we on the left also have our own little pet memes among our more extreme elements.
The difference is, Democratic Senators don’t adopt them and run with them in the media.
I’m not sure whether that’s because Democratic Senators and Congressmen know that the media wouldn’t give them a pass on stupid crap, or if it’s because Democratic Senators and Congressmen actually have ideas.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:18 pmCCC has like a 4 word vocabulary and they are all adolescent taunts.
no wonder the gop is dying.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:19 pmFlocks Noose is going to have to start using facts their followers can actually use, their rhetoric is hitting a non-working fan.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:19 pmhi trajan.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:20 pmHelp change the sytem then!
September 13th, 2009 at 5:20 pmhttp://www.change.org/actions/view/end_the_pay_to_play_campaign_practices#
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ah, I missed the most obvious clue….hangover…
September 13th, 2009 at 5:21 pmThe use of the word “Czar” in American politics goes back a lot further than Nixon…
Next time you get into a dust up w/ an hysterical, grossly misinformed rightie over this, just ask them: which positions SPECIFICALLY are you upset about? Who’s been appointed – their real NAME and TITLE, and what are their JOB DUTIES?
Is this SPECIFIC position a new one, or one that was created by a previous President, and has it been confirmed by the Senate?
Bet’cha good money they won’t be able to answer ONE of those questions correctly… NOT ONE.
***Eyes roll…***
BTW, here’s a list of everything you need to know to embarrass the Hell outta the next dumb-dumb you take down…
September 13th, 2009 at 5:22 pmCountry@58, Say what now?
September 13th, 2009 at 5:23 pmWould they be happier if we should call them “Rasputins” or “Stalins” ? After all, those 2 did away with the czars didn’t they ?
September 13th, 2009 at 5:23 pm“I don’t recall, did the Democrats complain this much about Bush’s czars?”
kscitydude, I only remember complaining about Bolton–Bush knew damned well that nobody wanted him at the UN, so he waited ’til the next recess to put Herr Mustache in.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:23 pmboy you better hope so dude because that’s the only chance you’ve got.
Your larger problem is that history shows that you are wrong.
The economy will strenthen and jobs will be created at a huge rate compared to bush and you will still be crying and incorrectly predicting the future.
When have you guys been right about anything? Please.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:24 pmNo offense trolls, but what the Hell are you talking about? We would love to debate. But you guys are not making any sense. At least be a little coherant. Jeez.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:24 pmHows that astroturf working for ya CCC?
September 13th, 2009 at 5:25 pmSays Who says:
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Funny… I thought someone like yourself would WANT a public option for health plans… you could FINALLY get some treatment for that nasty case of CMS you suffer from endlessly…
BTW… everything you so cleverly listed out there… just speculation and hyperbole… totally meaningless… just like EVERYTHING you post..
September 13th, 2009 at 5:25 pm***
#56,
busted.
:)
blocked your blog, eh?
what are you scared of?
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 5:25 pmSlay Poo, the recession [job losses] started back in 2007.
And FYI this is not the first jobless recovery.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:26 pmThis rag kay bailey is almost as stupid in public as she has displayed she really is behind close doors… Of coure she isses that fact that her savior, chimpy bush, had almost twice the number of ’staff’ (czars) as the current administration so someone should tell her to get the FACTS straight..Ooops, I forgot – she’s stupid so facts don’t matter and Ooops, I forgot as well she’s a dimwit republican so facts don’t exist unless beck or hannratty of limberger make them up !!
She’ll make a great governor for texas..what a trash bag…
September 13th, 2009 at 5:27 pmOff Topic:
2 days. That’s how much longer President Obama has protected us from terrorist attacks than his predecessor.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:27 pmMarie says:
I strongly suspect that the term czar is used more frequently now and more pejoratively because in relation to Obama, it sounds so much more un-American!
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Which means they’ll move on to using “ayatollah” as soon as “czar” loses its power to invoke uncontrolled hysterical outbursts on the right side…
September 13th, 2009 at 5:28 pmXis@68, LOL! Good one. Problem is, CCC won’t get it.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:29 pmpete says:
2 days. That’s how much longer President Obama has protected us from terrorist attacks than his predecessor.
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I think we need to post the running tally every day, pete… doesn’t the Heritage Foundation run some sort of silly”How many days, hours, minutes and seconds until blah blah blah” clock?
Perhaps we also sound include the hours, minutes, and seconds too…
September 13th, 2009 at 5:30 pmsez hoo is cagey, he thinks we can’t see glen becks name in the link.
hey sez, no one will click on your stupid link.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:30 pm***
#72,
the truth about glenn beck.
*
“are you ready to be that person you were…?”
:(
are you?
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 5:31 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I heard a rumor on the Internet that says Obama is planning to start something called a “federal income tax” next year, and have an “I.R.S.” that enforces it. Has anybody else heard about this?
.
blackwidow says:
Jesus, can you imagine how long it would take to get positions filled if they all had to be approved by the Senate?
Hey, if Congress wants to make the Senate approve them, they can always just pass a bill saying so. And if they want to deal with the backlog with every new incoming administration, that’s on them. All of these jobs are established by Acts of Congress. Those same bills specify whether they require Senate confirmation or not. So this is all up to Congress. Obama has nothing to do with it, except for who he picks to fill the spot.
If Hutchinson doesn’t like it, she’s free to introduce a bill requiring Senate confirmation of whatever list of government positions she’s complaining about. That’s kind of her job, actually.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:31 pmSays Who says:
The truth about obamas czars…
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It’s dangerous to use “truth” and “Glenn Beck” in the same sentence. It’s like having matter and anti-matter collide… you could destroy the Universe.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:32 pm***
WELL AREY YOU?!
:|
September 13th, 2009 at 5:32 pmNote to Amanda Terkel :
Thanks for working this Sunday! I appreciate it.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:33 pmHe is prolly watching a football game and looking at astroturf…going “I dont get it”
September 13th, 2009 at 5:33 pmBushes America looked like prison.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:33 pm***
#80,
twajie,
there is NO ussr.
*
it was in all the papers.
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 5:33 pm***
#86,
what do you care?
you’re still on your mom’s tit.
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 5:34 pmObamas america looks alot like the USSR
Let me guess, because they both have Czars?
(PROTIP: The USSR didn’t have Czars.)
September 13th, 2009 at 5:34 pmCountry Club Conservative says:
Obamas america looks alot like the USSR
____________
How about some SERIOUS data to back that silly claim up?
Or are you just another hysterical cry baby like Glenn?
September 13th, 2009 at 5:35 pmCzar, communist, fascist, socialist, tyrant, liberal, elitist, progressive and the list goes on. They describe very different things but they have two things in common.
1. They scare the crap out of stupid people.
2. Stupid people don’t even bother learning WTF they mean.
From the mouths of GOoPers they carry all the weight of a 3 year old’s cry of “poopy-head”.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:35 pmSoon milk will be 10 bucks a gallon!
Well, using the GOP conversion rate where 70,000 = 2 million, that means milk will be… 35 cents a gallon. Sounds great!
September 13th, 2009 at 5:36 pm91. He claims to be independent, then he needs to get off his Mommies titty.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:36 pmDairy subsidies will keep milk under $10/gal.
Unless you get your way, SaysWho.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:37 pmYou really need to work on your routine Olga Korbut
September 13th, 2009 at 5:37 pmCountry Club Conservative says:
Obamas america looks alot like the USSR
September 13th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
In what way? Please be specific.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:37 pmBoo!
Fear the future! Feeeeeeeaaaarrrr the future, I say!
September 13th, 2009 at 5:37 pmSays@86, Give it up. Remember when gas was almost $4 a gallon when good ole Georgie was in office? Unlike you, we don’t suffer from short term memory loss.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:37 pmCCC, how would you know what the USSR looked like? What country’s have you been too? You do know the USSR does not exist anymore right?
So tells us, how does America look like the USSR? I’ll be waiting for your answer.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:38 pmCCC must’ve had to wait in a long line at WalMart this morning.
Which sucks when your hemorrhoids are flaring up, right CCC?
September 13th, 2009 at 5:38 pmI want to be the nastiest troll on this board. Back off you little U.S.S. F-ckers.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:38 pmIf Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison was worried about the Constitution, her op ed should have been about her current governor and others who want to secede.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:39 pmSays Who says:
There’s a nice dose of liberal hypocrisy we independents love exposing!
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Once again… making a silly, hyperbolic claim w/ NO BACKUP means nothing…
You’re not very good at this, are you?
BTW… LOVE the way failed, humiliated righties have become “independents”…
“I DID NOT vote for Bush… twice… I swear…”
***Tosses armband into trash can and walks away whistling, hoping no one noticed…***
September 13th, 2009 at 5:39 pm***
#91,
“we independents”?
conservative shame.
it’s everywhere.
*
no one wants to be called a “conservative”.
not even limbaugh.
:|
September 13th, 2009 at 5:39 pmUm. If Obama’s America resembled the U.S.S.R. then Czars would be shot. I really wish the GOoPers would, at least, try to accurately define what scares them.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:39 pmI remember when gas was 4+ dollars a gallon…
in 2008!
Hahahhahaaa
September 13th, 2009 at 5:40 pmRepugs, line up for your final glass of kool-aid.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:40 pm“There’s a nice dose of liberal hypocrisy we independents love exposing!”
Says shit, you’re no more an independent than I’m the Queen of England. Why are you still here? You should be studying!
September 13th, 2009 at 5:40 pmFor the trolls. One of the problems Bernanke is now facing is deflation, not inflation. Please try to keep up to TODAY.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:40 pmSays Who says:
Can somerone help me? :)
_____________
When your basic skill set is this weak… I’m not sure ANYONE can help you…
September 13th, 2009 at 5:40 pm$10 milk? If seems we were halfway there when the oilmen were speculating gas prices through the roof …
What’s a gallon of milk now? $2.50 at Walgreens. Damnit. I was hoping I wouldn’t find cheap milk anywhere.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:41 pmSays Shit says:
Can somerone help me?
September 13th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
No, apparently not.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:42 pmSays Who says:
There’s a nice dose of liberal hypocrisy we independents love exposing!
You’re not conservative enough? What are you, not pro-American enough? Why don’t you let the real cons do the talking you shitheaded communist!
September 13th, 2009 at 5:43 pmSorry, I cant help you Im not a psychologist. I do recommend more drugs and alcohol for you however. Also turn off the AM raydiddyo
September 13th, 2009 at 5:43 pmSays Who…..quit drinking your mothers juice
September 13th, 2009 at 5:44 pmConservative/Independent/Libertarians all agree that:
paying more and getting less = freedom.
Now, that’s Mavericky!
September 13th, 2009 at 5:44 pmYanno, I think there is something about amplitude modulation and electromagnetic flux that interferes with trolls and their low frequency brain waves.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:45 pmGO HERE and TELL Kay what you think:
http://hutchison.senate.gov/contact.cfm
September 13th, 2009 at 5:45 pmGonna go OT here, in case you may have missed this:
http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/09/closing_the_book_on_the_bush_legacy.php
The US Census Bureau report on income and poverty and health care access — on every measurement, the country lost ground during the Bush years.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:45 pmIts been nearly nine months….
September 13th, 2009 at 5:46 pmSays Who says:
Did obamas approval rating drop the fastest or second fastest in history, I forgot. Can somerone help me? :)
Tell us what he did to the national debt! Did he quintriple it? Did he octomom it? Did he trindiple it?
September 13th, 2009 at 5:46 pmThe reason for that drop is that we’re all pissed that he’s wasting his time trying to talk to people like you.
Once a Healthcare bill with a public option passes (and it will), those #’s will pop right back up,
and you’ll feel even more angry and desperate than you do right now.
Hooray!
September 13th, 2009 at 5:47 pmGlenn Beck has supplanted Rush Limbaugh as chief spokesman for the GOP. People like Sen. Hutchinson take Beck’s talking points and run with them. The problem is that 100% of them are lies and MSM, including the Washington Post, are in the hip pocket of the GOP so there is no accountability. Only the same old lies repeated endlessly. That is not healthy for a democracy.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:47 pmhttp://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm
Nope, sorry Slay Poo. Obama is still at 50%+-
September 13th, 2009 at 5:48 pmPresident Obama will have plenty of time to work on his approval rating after being reelected to a second term.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:48 pmpete@108, EVERYTHING scares them. They seem to fear anything. Change, new ideas. They are constantly on the look out for the next ‘Big Bad Boogie Man’ I, myself, am too busy living.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:49 pmhttp://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm
LOL, look at this chart FOX has Dubyer at about 46% right before 911.
Bwahahaha
September 13th, 2009 at 5:49 pmSays Who says:
President Obama’s approval rating down to 45%… the fastest first 6 month drop of any Present in history.
__________
Hmmm… according to Real Clear Politics, you’re wrong about that too…
You’re not having a very good day, are you?
September 13th, 2009 at 5:49 pm***
#124,
who say,
nice sign,
did you make it yourself?
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 5:49 pmThis is a moot question, since the USA does not have a public option at present. However, I have lived in Japan, which has a public option, and it worked quite well for me. 70% of my medical/dental bills were covered, and the government never interfered with my choice of doctors, dentists, or hospitals.
Country Club Conservative says:
September 13th, 2009 at 5:50 pmHows(SIC) that public option working for you kids?
I didn’t think my shrinking party had the clout to ‘undo’ their approval of Barack Obama where approval hardly existed. It couldn’t possibly be among people more attuned to progressivism than Obama, making up the largest political party in the country, who are voicing their disapproval.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:51 pmThis crap about ‘czars’ just shows that they’ve got nothing. It’s really transparent. Republicans have no ideas to offer, just rhetoric – just emotional triggers based on fear. I love that they’ve adopted this line as criticism of Obama. It’s like ranting about the fact that he has ears.
Now, we’ve got to lampoon everyone of them that has wrung their public hands about such a non-issue and make their idiocy stick to themn.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:51 pmSays@124, AGAIN with the numbers? Who cares? Poll numbers are a snapshot in history. And with Bush’s numbers as low as they were in his final months in office, I’m not sure if I would bring up ANYBODYS approval ratings.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:51 pmRe: Senator Hutchison and our trolls,
September 13th, 2009 at 5:51 pmWhat has happened to fact-checking?
***
#137,
uh, oh… government regulation.
no wonder you’re drunk.
**
September 13th, 2009 at 5:55 pmLora@140, Facts just get in the way for trolls. Look at the ‘Rally’ yesterday. The Righties SWEAR there were 2 million! But in actuality there were only 50,000 to 70,000 (Some say that is too generous). Why let FACTS get in the way? Just like Colbert. I feels right in their gut.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:55 pm…what I just sent to her via her website:
http://hutchison.senate.gov/contact.cfm
—————————
Dear Ms. Hutchison:
You are exaggerating to the American people and The United States of America when you spin about President Obama’s “czars” (as in your Washington Post op-ed).
PLEASE stop lying and be truthful. You are exaggerating and it is unbecoming of a U.S. Senator.
Please read the below and correct yourself.
Thank you.
——————————–
On July 30, the Washington Post gave House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-VA) space to write an op-ed railing on President Obama’s “virtual army of ‘czars.’” Today, the Washington Post allowed Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison to write a similar op-ed complaining that these czars set “a dangerous precedent that undermines the Constitution’s guarantee of separated powers.” Hutchison tries to make these officials seem shady and mysterious by noting that many of them don’t even have “formal titles”:
Nearly 250 years later, these critical lines of separation are being obscured by a new class of federal officials. A few of them have formal titles, but most are simply known as “czars.” They hold unknown levels of power over broad swaths of policy. Under the Obama administration, we have an unprecedented 32 czar posts (a few of which it has yet to fill), including a “car czar,” a “pay czar” and an “information czar.” There are also czars assigned to some of the broadest and most consequential topics in policy, including health care, terrorism, economics and key geographic regions.
In fact, ALL of these officials have formal titles. For example, Hutchison cites Van Jones, the “green jobs czar.” But Jones had the title of Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise, and Innovation at the Council on Environmental Quality. The only person Obama has referred to as a czar is “drug czar” Gil Kerlikowske, whose official title is Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy. (Additionally, “drug czar” was a term that existed long before the Obama administration.)
Hutchison’s lie mirrors a claim by Fox News’ Sean Hannity, who recently said that the only reason he calls these appointees “czars” is “because the White House itself does.” Of course, it’s the media — not the White House — that is driving the term.
Hutchison does not list the 32 individuals whom she considers to be “czars.” But if she’s relying on the same list as Cantor — who also cited 32 people — then several of them are far from unaccountable; they’ve actually already been confirmed by the Senate.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:56 pmThe Republic of Stupidity,
I don’t think it would be prudent or proper to run a clock on how much longer Obama has kept us safe from terrorist attack. It would be a bit classless and it just might inspire someone to “beat the clock”.
On the other hand, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with reminding our honored opponents when the batscat gets deep.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:57 pmBy the way, this is why health care must be Charack OBarkley’s waterloo. If a sufficient bill makes it to his desk, a possibility more real than ever, his drop in approval becomes dust. It’s part of the process that policy-wringing will take a temporary toll in leading to the final product–but it’s never permanent.
If we in the GOP, by some off chance in hell, make Obama fail in getting a bill, you can vote us in where we’ll fail even harder and enjoy doing so. Concern about people here at home would make it look like we give a partial shit about people overseas. Ain’t GUN-A happen.
September 13th, 2009 at 5:58 pm***
the link who say forgot to include.
wonder why?
*
we independents love exposing
that kind of conservative disingenuousness.
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 5:59 pmIs the dust speck still tying to get attention? Maybe we should boil it afterall…
September 13th, 2009 at 5:59 pmSays Who says:
AP – The White House and members of Congress on Sunday played down an immediate role for a government health insurance option and turned attention to regulating insurers,
Why do you want to regulate insurers? Are you a f-ucking communist? ANSWER ME! I WILL NOT TOLERATE AN ANTI-FREEPER IN MY PRESENCE!
September 13th, 2009 at 6:00 pmYou calling Jake Tapper and abc a liar?
I will. Both Jake Tapper and ABC have been known to spread provably false information.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:00 pm****
#146,
oh no,
abc was telling the truth.
their numbers were right
there were only about 60,000
of you inbreds out on the mall the other day.
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 6:02 pmWhy not just call them consultants, like they do in the private sector ?
September 13th, 2009 at 6:02 pmIf Obama has 32 Czars and Czars are the opposite of communist leaders then doesn;t that disprove the claim that Obama is a communist?
Some one help me?
If only there was some kind of convenient information-finding-out-device that could assist me in my honest quest for empirical knowledge, or at least substantiating data!
September 13th, 2009 at 6:02 pm***
who say,
wiping it all out with
red bull and meth again?
:\
September 13th, 2009 at 6:03 pmFunny that the radical right is talking about Czars instead of health care. I think they have given up on the health care issue, Obama has rendered them irrelevent on that issue.
Hutchison is trying to boost her creds with the radical right by calling out the czar “issue”. She is moving to the right to run against Perry down in Texas. She knows damn well that the Czar issue is total BS, her dangerous precedent she is complaining about started almost 30 years ago. When she gets hot in the race with Perry, it will be a race to see who can be more radical.
By the way, we should not be using the term “conservative”, these people are anything by conservative, they are radicals, that is why I use the term “radical right”.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:04 pmEverything Says Who and CCC say will soon pass. Much like a bad bowl of chili.
In due time.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:04 pm***
#154,
on the appalachian trail?
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 6:04 pmWhat’s the dealeo against a public option anyway? It’s not subsidized, would be a choice, and would save people overhead costs. It’s a true compromise of single-payer and forces insurers to air out their inefficiencies.
But hey, I’m all for protecting the shitty way the GOP does business.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:05 pmSay Who, you got your name all mucked up.
Its WhoSane…BTW is your first name maddaS?
September 13th, 2009 at 6:05 pm156 – that matters how? to whom, besides you?
got anything on the topic?
or just the daily lying list?
September 13th, 2009 at 6:05 pmWho Say and CCC are the usual suspects Mr Pee and Trajan
September 13th, 2009 at 6:06 pm***
#156,
he’s on his honeymoon
with your sister.
*
he’ll be back next year.
why don’t you wait here?
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 6:06 pmSays Who says:
149. Take a hike, patsy.
Says the independent communist …
September 13th, 2009 at 6:07 pmSayDayum WhoSane
Heh
September 13th, 2009 at 6:07 pmI was only kidding dust speck. Why waste the gas heating the water….
September 13th, 2009 at 6:08 pm***
#163,
twajie blocked his site.
*
his girlfriend got an “entrepreneurial of the year”
award from newtie and he’s embarrassed.
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 6:09 pmI still wanna know what happen to that nasty chick with the bad teeth. Maybe Says Who can answer that…
September 13th, 2009 at 6:10 pmThats pretty sad, out of three million viewers of Flocks Noose only <60K show up.
This proves that many teevees showing FOX are unattended.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:10 pmAlso, never mind Obama’s 32 Czars, what about the;
43 Marquises
87 Muftis
102 Grand Poobahs
141 Popes
172 Sheiks
206 Top Bananas
312 Big Cheeses
640×800 Pixels
67 Million Colors
WHAT ABOUT THEM?
September 13th, 2009 at 6:10 pmI still wanna know what happen to that nasty chick with the bad teeth. Maybe Says Who can answer that…
I think he tossed her into the Gar tank.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:11 pmWiz@152, You make an excellant point. Now instead of ‘Pullin the Plug on Granma’ it’s the dreaded ‘CZARS’. My God. So many conspiricies, so little time.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:11 pmsays who, your a wingnut troll coming to a progressive blog and telling another progressive to take a hike? Boy, you gotta quit drinking your bath water.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:11 pmThat’s the alarming part, dbadass. Since Beezelnut Oil has been traded on the “free market” we are reduced to boiling dust specks in water. And water just doesn’t get hot enough.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:12 pmIf Say Who was a food product he would be traveling to construction sites on a roach coach
September 13th, 2009 at 6:13 pmdbadass says: I still wanna know what happen to that nasty chick with the bad teeth. Maybe Says Who can answer that…
Is that the opening salvo of a “yo’ momma” exchange or repartee? :D
September 13th, 2009 at 6:13 pmSays Who says:
165, thanks for exposing yourself, loser. Btw, Bob and Johnny say hi! :)
Please don’t expose yourself to Bob and Johnny again, or I will place you under arrest.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:13 pmWhich is it, ‘rhf’ or ‘patsy’? Apparently you’ve been here long enough to know.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:16 pm***
#169
who say,
your girlfriend says “hi”.
*
cute, no?
:|
September 13th, 2009 at 6:16 pm***
#180,
who say,
getting angry?!
:0
September 13th, 2009 at 6:17 pmsays who says:
Yawn…
September 13th, 2009 at 6:18 pmSays Who says:
angels81 says
What name will you use next, loser?
Chock full of irony, simply too funny. ‘Says Who’ suspects progressive posters of hiding their past – a past he could only know of by being present under various screen names himself!
September 13th, 2009 at 6:20 pm5th Estate says:
Also, never mind Obama’s 32 Czars, what about the;
43 Marquises
87 Muftis
102 Grand Poobahs
141 Popes
172 Sheiks
206 Top Bananas
312 Big Cheeses
640×800 Pixels
67 Million Colors
WHAT ABOUT THEM?
Excellent points! Don’t forget the Kenyan czars and milk duds!
September 13th, 2009 at 6:22 pmSays@186, Now for childish name calling? Who says ‘patsy’ anymore? Please…
September 13th, 2009 at 6:22 pmLooks like DEbs took the day off,so I’ll do a shorter form of what he’d say:
September 13th, 2009 at 6:22 pmTrolls,you are:
-childish
-moronic
-stupid
-of no redeeming social value.
Really, the trolls should stay off the computer when they get shite faced.
tony and lido
Patsy, why do you hate America?
September 13th, 2009 at 6:23 pm***
#186,
who say,
like to chew peyote buttons
with your milkshake do you?
*
September 13th, 2009 at 6:24 pmwH0ring for votes, how becoming of you, Kay. Keep up the good work!
September 13th, 2009 at 6:24 pmHi Says Who:
September 13th, 2009 at 6:25 pmWanna chat?
Sorry for the off topic remark but, speaking of “Patsy” has Marion (Pat) Robertson issued a Fatwa on Frank Schaffer yet? He’s been giving the perspective of a former insider that makes the “religious right” look like the dangerous radicals they are.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/glenn-beck-and-the-912-ma_b_284387.html
September 13th, 2009 at 6:26 pmSo ‘Says Who’ supports limiting choice for Americans. What a fcuking communist.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:26 pmNotice that CCC did not answer our questions re: US vs USSR. I guess that he’s still smarting from his whacking.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:28 pmsays who, you should stick with what you know, which is nothing, because you are really bad with the snide remarks.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:28 pm***
kay at the parade yesterday.
*
nice hat.
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 6:30 pmangels81 says: says who, your a wingnut troll coming to a progressive blog and telling another progressive to take a hike?
And who asks for the entire progressive community for help in providing the substation needed to support an insupportable premise to which that very same community is not only opposed, but opposes with facts that THEY didn’t need help in finding?
Oh, of course, I shouldn’t have taken a literal interpretation of the request for help. But I don’t see how I can take it figuratively or prehistorically either. I guess I’ll have to just accept it as desperate ‘dickishness’.
( hi, angel81 :D )
September 13th, 2009 at 6:30 pmI’m going to teach you a thing or two about property rights when I take the heartiest dump on your lawn. ‘Whippersnapper’ will become the key word of your vocabulary when I get through pissing on your premises, you shitheaded communist.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:30 pmThen he’s doing it wrong. Perhaps Daryll could give CCC tips on “shaking the devil off” so as to avoid chafing.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:30 pmOT
September 13th, 2009 at 6:31 pmpete warblers are on the move big time. Some very good stuff on the local report. Connecticut warbler was probably the best bird of the week…
Says Who says:
President Obama’s approval rating down to 45%…
Rasmussen:
You lie!
.
Wiz says:
Funny that the radical right is talking about Czars instead of health care.
You’d think if they had a good case to make, that’s what they’d be talking about.
They’re still trying to convince stupid people that Obama is going to take over and become some kind of dictator. Never mind the guy before him who blatantly expanded executive power, and never mind that none of their claims have any shred of truth or evidence to them.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:33 pm5th Estate, I understand, but its hard to really help someone who can hear the waves slapping against the rocks between one’s ears.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:33 pm***
who say,
this guy stole your line!
:(
September 13th, 2009 at 6:35 pm5th Estate says:
And who asks for the entire progressive community for help in providing the substation needed to support an insupportable premise to which that very same community is not only opposed, but opposes with facts that THEY didn’t need help in finding?
Oh, of course, I shouldn’t have taken a literal interpretation of the request for help. But I don’t see how I can take it figuratively or prehistorically either. I guess I’ll have to just accept it as desperate ‘dickishness’.
( hi, angel81 :D )
September 13th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
You speak very intelligently. One of those elitist liberals, I take it?
September 13th, 2009 at 6:35 pmWho doesn’t like warblers? Come now… Are we that jaded?
September 13th, 2009 at 6:37 pmSo what do you say Says Who?
September 13th, 2009 at 6:39 pmYou aren’t afraid based on the outcome of all those other times with all those other names are you?
What the GOP REALLY means … says: Don’t forget the Kenyan czars and milk duds!
I think they would be called Kenyanzimbabwes, or “Hollywood Liberals”, but my fake Swahili is a bit rusty these days.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:39 pmSays Who says: GAG!
September 13th, 2009 at 6:39 pmIf you don’t have something real to complain about, just make something up and complain about that! The term “czar” has never been anything other than inside-the-beltway slang.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:40 pm***
later that day.
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 6:40 pmdbadass,
I haven’t seen many migrants yet but flocks are forming up and the first leaves are turning.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:40 pmSays Who says:
——————————————————————————–
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/29391/
The truth about obamas czars.
From the article:
• The Brainroom counts 32 czars in the Obama administration, based on media reports from reputable sources that have identified the official in question as a czar.
• In addition, President Obama has said that he will create the position of cyber czar, and there have been media reports that there could be a health insurance czar and a copyright czar. When and if those positions are filled, that would bring the total to 35.
• Since czar isn’t an official job title, the number is somewhat in the eye of the beholder.
I love FOX’s little disclaimer there: “I have no reported sources, and there is no consensus that these people are who I claim they are, but hey I’ll put it up as fact anyways.”
And y’know what? Reading those job descriptions makes me GLAD we have them. They seem like postitions we actually NEED.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:42 pmObama has his temporarily lowered approval rating with the high probability of a rebound. As for Bush, there was simply no way out.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:42 pmpete
September 13th, 2009 at 6:43 pmleaves in the wetlands are well on their way. Most models have our entire foliage and syrup industry collapsing…
What the GOP REALLY means … says: You speak very intelligently. One of those elitist liberals, I take it?
If a lack of succinctness and a taste for Russian unborn sturgeon babies qualifies me as an elitist, then yes indeed, guilty as charged! :D
September 13th, 2009 at 6:44 pmwhat is it that you don’t like about joe cantwell’s pics? Shouldn’t you be proud. Speaking of Proud whatever happen to that tool?
September 13th, 2009 at 6:45 pm94,
September 13th, 2009 at 6:45 pmThat should be 3.5 cents.
***
#220,
somewhat approve = somewhat approve
and
somewhat stupid = who say.
*
see how it works?
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 6:47 pmHitler was not a socialist he jailed union workers and liberals.
He also was not a nationalist as he then proceeded to kill those nationalists that helped bring him into power.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:48 pmSays Who = massive bulge of stupid
September 13th, 2009 at 6:49 pmSays Who = massive bulge of stupid
The thick is thick in the thicks thick
September 13th, 2009 at 6:49 pm#214 joe cantwell:
Thanks for the link joe,I’ve added that to my collection.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:49 pmI wonder who her other sign targets? Could it be Sanjaya from American idol? Kevin Spacey? Michael J. Fox?!!!
I like the Cybersecurity and Health IT czars. Pretty cool.
September 13th, 2009 at 6:51 pm***
#221,
credit where credit is due;
they were taken by stephanie taylor
and posted at her twitter site.
**
check it out.
it’ll make you laugh and gag
at the same time :)
. …
September 13th, 2009 at 6:54 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Wow joe, those pics are messed up. Also check this pic for a comparative idea of the crowd size.
Here’s some of the weirdest ones…
sign: “Czar = U.S.S.R.”
shirt: “I’d Rather Be Waterboarding”
sign: “Waterboard Obama, Find Out If He Knows Anything”
sign: “Athiests Communists Liberals Undesirables”
shirt: “The Cure for Obama Communism Is a New Era of McCarthyism”
!!!
.
i aint you says:
So basicly we are going to be ruled by Kings,— i don’t care what party one is with i don’t like it one bit
Well they’re not actually kings. But I don’t like the term either, and I believe it should be dropped from any official capacity and usage, if it’s even used in an official capacity now.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:10 pmI gotta get something off my chest about those stupid presidential approval rating polls, and I apologize now if this turns out to be lengthy. Feel free to skip it or vote it down (if you want to discourage long posts; I’ll understand and won’t be insulted in the least.)
I have written extensively before about why I put absolutely no faith in any of these polls, no matter who puts them out. I believe them to be a misuse of statistical analysis, and I wouldn’t be surprised if you gave two polling firms the same set of questions and responses and they turned out different results. No matter what anybody says, never believe that the responses of 900 people will tell you anything worthwhile about what a nation of 300 million thinks. You are talking about public opinions, not empirical facts.
And that is precisely why you cannot put any faith whatsoever in the numbers reported. The public is seriously misinformed! Think about it for a minute. Would you ask a tribe of people living in Africa about the value of credit-default swaps (to pick a topic at random)? No, because there is no reason to believe that they would know what the hell they were talking about. If I told you I polled 900 tribesman in Africa and they said “x”, you’d immediately say the poll was useless because the respondents couldn’t know what they were talking about. If I told you I polled 900 economists, you would at least have a reason to put at least some stock in the responses, because economists can reasonably be expected to know what credit-default swaps are. So you can see how an informed group of respondents is necessary to a credible poll result.
But as we can clearly see from these “tea party protests”, there is a large swath of the public that is extremely ill-informed on the issues. (Would you ask 900 Americans at random who’s going to win the championship in Japanese baseball? Is there any reason to expect them to know anything about Japanese baseball?) The same is true about the health care debate. We know that the right wing media (led by Fox News Channel and supported by many right-wing radio personalities) is telling lies about what is being discussed. We can tell from their signs that they do not understand the issues.
The numbers being reported in presidential approval ratings are NOT an indication of what people think about the president’s policies. They are a indication, at best, of what the public thinks about what they think the president’s policies are. But we know that people don’t know what those policies really are! The drop in presidential approval numbers does not mean that public approval for the president’s policies is dropping, but that public approval for what people erroneously think those policies are is dropping. And that’s a big difference. And assuming you believe that the numbers are meaningful, then you have to note that after the president’s speech to Congress, his approval numbers shot way up (according to those same polls).
When people are informed, they make better decisions. Everything the Republican Party and the right wing media is doing is designed to keep the public from ever learning the truth. So you really can’t look at presidential approval polls to conclude that support for the president is dwindling.
Thank you for your time, and I apologize for the length of this comment.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:12 pmHi i aint you
September 13th, 2009 at 7:12 pmWhen you cut and paste you are supposed to cite the source.
So basicly we are going to be ruled by Kings
Right. “Basicly” Obama has somehow appointed a Czar to be the Emperor of America. Oh, no, sorry, he’s appointed 30+ Czars to all be the Emperors of America simultaneously.
Either that or this usage of “Czar” does not, in fact, mean anything like “Emperor”.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:15 pmWell, i aint you, if actual Czars were being appointed I might be concerned. However, that’s not the case. These people are advisers, consultants, managers, and liaisons. Just because the Reichwhiners run scared from words they don’t even understand doesn’t mean that rational people are so foolish.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:16 pm***
#230,
you don’t vote for kings.
it’s an inherited title.
:)
she stole your sign!
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 7:17 pm***
#233,
here’s the link.
*
i ain’t you,
you cheat on your driver’s test too?
:|
September 13th, 2009 at 7:19 pmi aint you says:
So basicly we are going to be ruled by Kings,— i don’t care what party one is with i don’t like it one bit
__________
Got hysteria?
Again… one more time… show me ONE position in the Federal govt that has the word “Czar” in the title or the job description… JUST… ONE…
You can’t… it doesn’t exist.
You’re a weak-minded, easily frightened little fellow , aren’t you?
September 13th, 2009 at 7:21 pmNo need to apologize, Wayne. When poorly written questions are asked of the barely literate one gets some goofy results.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:24 pmCZAR = USSR
Really?? Has that lady been holding up that sign since the Reagan years?
She needs to use her Medicare and get a mental exam.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:27 pmOnly if you’re allowed to have your way. You’re the one sticking up for the monied classes who buy elections for their nephews and in-laws.
Then and only then all the power will be concentrated in the hands of the Wealthiest and their descendants, and all the rest of us toil for their benefit, rather than our own.
If you get what you wish for, Kings are all we’ll have.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:27 pmBig thumbs up, Wayne. That’s precisely the suspicion I had about these polls but couldn’t put it in words. You put it down very well.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:28 pm***
#240,
zoo,
she traded it in for the sign.
:|
September 13th, 2009 at 7:28 pmHutchison Has A ‘Formal Title’ – Lying As$hole.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:29 pmi aint you essentially says:
I can cut and paste from Wikipedia without crediting the source, but my comprehension of royalist and imperialist systems of government is that of a five-year old.
I assume you also don’t want Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton to become Princesses either?
Thanks for not being me at least, i aint you!
September 13th, 2009 at 7:30 pmZooey says:
CZAR = USSR
Really?? Has that lady been holding up that sign since the Reagan years?
The funny part about that sign is that they killed the Tsar and his family during the Russian revolution. The USSR hated Tsars far more than we ever did. I mean, the Tsar is who they were rebelling against. They’re sort of the opposite of each other.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:36 pmHey, hey hey!
Don’t break character. It freaks me out.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:39 pmWhat I wanna know is where are all the Czarinas?
September 13th, 2009 at 7:44 pmElBruce says:
The funny part about that sign is that they killed the Tsar and his family during the Russian revolution. The USSR hated Tsars far more than we ever did. I mean, the Tsar is who they were rebelling against. They’re sort of the opposite of each other.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Kinda like Hitler having those “socialist” and progressive leanings. ;)
September 13th, 2009 at 7:46 pmThe Republic of Stupidity says:
What I wanna know is where are all the Czarinas?
September 13th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Barefoot and preggers?
September 13th, 2009 at 7:48 pm****
ot,
the stupid marches on…
:|
h/t huffpo
. … …
September 13th, 2009 at 7:50 pmWhat do you care if I break character, lib? Obami breaks character all the time. He broke an Acorn with his U.S.S. bare hands.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:51 pmI have a proposal:
I think it would be appropriate to call Republican supporters of birthers, deathers, tenthers, and all manner of lunacy “DICK.”
In other words, Kay Bailey Hutchison would now be Kay Bailey “DICK” Hutchison. Eric Cantor would be Eric “DICK” Cantor…and so on.
Whatcha think?
September 13th, 2009 at 7:52 pmThe Republic of Stupidity says:
What I wanna know is where are all the Czarinas?
In the hay-loft with Rasputin?
September 13th, 2009 at 7:53 pmThe “DICK” would be in honor of Dick Armey, of course. ;)
September 13th, 2009 at 7:53 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
What do you care if I break character, lib? Obami breaks character all the time. He broke an Acorn with his U.S.S. bare hands.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Whew…that’s better.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:53 pmThis is Obami’s approval rating. I have found it. It is here. Whoop, where did it go? It went over there. Have ya’ll seen it? There it goes again. Up, up and away!
September 13th, 2009 at 7:57 pmWow… here’s a snippet from the article that joe cantwell linked to at #251…
Just… wow… irony is lost on these people… SOOOOOO much better to have an unabashed conviction in burning bushes, parting waters, and immaculate conceptions, drawn from stories cobbled together by unknown authors and re-written and edited endlessly over the last 2,000 years…
There is SUCH a scientific basis for Christianist dogma, huh?
Some ballsy distributor will pick up that film and make a bundle off the contoversy…
September 13th, 2009 at 7:58 pmZooey says:
Whatcha think?
__________
Hmmm…
***desperately trying NOT to giggle…***
And… huh… what would you call the leader… of that group… ???
September 13th, 2009 at 8:00 pmHey Zooey
September 13th, 2009 at 8:01 pmYou’ve got mail.
Zooey says:
“CZAR = USSR”
Really?? Has that lady been holding up that sign since the Reagan years?
ElBruce says:
The funny part about that sign is that they killed the Tsar and his family during the Russian revolution.
Oh sure! When people get their history education from dropouts like Limabugh, Hannity and Beck and can;t distinguish between fact and fiction, between fantasy and reality, its all just fun and games , isn’t it?!
Oh yea I’m sure it’s all very amusing, but you mark my words, one of these days someone is going to get hurt, or invade the wrong country, or vote themselves out of health benefits because they think the United States of America was perfected sometime between 1620 and 1860 when Snake oil would cure all ills, foreign and domestic.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:01 pmWe will vote in a President DeMint. He will fly the confederate flag at the White House to avenge for the ouster of a white president.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:02 pmThe Republic of Stupidity says:
And… huh… what would you call the leader… of that group… ???
September 13th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
DICK head.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:02 pmZooey says:
Barefoot and preggers?
____________
With the appropriate seasonal variations?
September 13th, 2009 at 8:03 pmZooey says:
DICK head.
__________
Tee hee…
September 13th, 2009 at 8:04 pmSays Who says:
What the LOSER REALLY means … says:
You do know you replaced ‘GOP’ with the same word, right?
September 13th, 2009 at 8:05 pmWe do break out in the middle of the night with sweats wondering if one of Obami’s czars will break in and take our Guns, God, and Freedom.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:08 pmThe Republic of Stupidity says: What I wanna know is where are all the Czarinas?
Toyota stopped producing the Czarina in 2000. They were all decommissioned and turned into networked robot toilets. They will become aware in 2012. There is a storm coming.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Carina
Oh and don’t trust the first Austrian-accented cyborg you see, wait for the second one.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:09 pmOBAMA IS A COMMUNIST FASCIST SOVIET CZAR! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
Hey, that’s kind of fun. Lemme try again…
GRAVITY MAKES THINGS FALL UP! RUSH LIMBAUGH WANTS TO FORCE YOUR CHILDREN TO GO ON WELFARE! FISH HAVE LUNGS!
OK, it’s out of my system now.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:09 pmThe irony is that these teabaggers that parrot the czar stuff remind me of your typical socially isolated, cowering, superstitious, dentally challenged 18th and 19th century Russian peasant.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:14 pm***
#264,
two hours later and that’s
what you come back with?
. … …
you must’ve thinking really hard.
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 8:15 pmElBruce says:
OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST FASCIST SOVIET CZAR! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
Hey, that’s kind of fun. Lemme try again…
GRAVITY MAKES THINGS FALL UP! RUSH LIMBAUGH WANTS TO FORCE YOUR CHILDREN TO GO ON WELFARE! FISH HAVE LUNGS!
You’re right! So true! So true!
September 13th, 2009 at 8:16 pmWe will not rest until America looks like an episode of Heat of the Night with fewer dark people.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:18 pmJust. WoW. Who is going to pull your plug? Madoff Street.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:20 pmhe Republic of Stupidity says: Wow… here’s a snippet from the article that joe cantwell linked to at #251…
The film has sparked fierce debate on US Christian websites, with a typical comment dismissing evolution as “a silly theory with a serious lack of evidence to support it despite over a century of trying“.
That’s funny, because Ben Stein’s Expelled: No intelligence Allowed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expelldd:_No_Intelligence_Allowed
only took ONE DAY to ALSO be dismissed “as a silly theory with a serious lack of evidence to support”
I guess that just proves the efficiency of the “free market” the (wrong)Right is always crowing about.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:20 pmI think you’re still a slob even when you are working out, you shitheaded ‘independent’ communist. Don’t push your socialism on me.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:20 pmwall street wants you NSane Hoot
September 13th, 2009 at 8:22 pm‘Says Who’: you never denied your embrace of communism. That means it’s true.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:23 pmacorns.
teabags.
czars.
what next, righties?
leprechauns?
September 13th, 2009 at 8:23 pmHittites?
The Oddfellows Lodge?
what next, righties?
leprechauns?
Hittites?
The Oddfellows Lodge?
You got a peek of Michael Steele’s schedule for Monday, didn’t you?
Darn it … I advised the RNC to hire an IT guy from outside their ranks.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:30 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says: We will vote in a President DeMint
President DeMint?!!!
That sounds French! And Minty! Like Creme de Menthe! It sounds like a cheese-eating surrender-maccaca name to me!
Make it Bobby Jindal–I hear he does exorcsims and he;s from Lousiana, so that’s like the swamp of Texas! You can’t get more American than THAT! I could vote for HIM!
September 13th, 2009 at 8:30 pmIt’s time to play “guess the President!” Ready, contestants?
OK, now make your guess and click!
September 13th, 2009 at 8:31 pmI wamted to call them Rumpelstiltskins, or Rumpels or Stiltskins Zooey, because they just woke up after eight years and have no memory of Dubyer.
[)eathers
September 13th, 2009 at 8:32 pm][nciters
((onfirmers
]<aisrs
Says Who says:
281, I don’t recall you denying you take it up the a$$. Must be true, ay?
You allowed Rush to shove apples and oranges up yours. Speaking from experience, stupid communist?
September 13th, 2009 at 8:32 pm****
#283,
looking for a date, ay?
:\
September 13th, 2009 at 8:32 pmI love [) ][ (( ]< ~Says Who
September 13th, 2009 at 8:34 pm5th Estate says:
What the GOP REALLY means … says: We will vote in a President DeMint
President DeMint?!!!
I hope you will, 5th Estate. Just think of a York patty and not the steaming pile of shit you’ll encounter at the voting booth.
I have to repeat that to myself: President DeMint. President Candy McCain.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:35 pmMint El
September 13th, 2009 at 8:36 pmSays Who@283 flagged for vulgar homophobia
September 13th, 2009 at 8:37 pmPresident Jindal?
Awww! It would be four years of watching that affable dude from ‘30 Rock’!
September 13th, 2009 at 8:37 pmAlan Autry for PRESIDENT!
President Autry
President Autry
President Autry
September 13th, 2009 at 8:39 pmPete@195
Thanks for the link to the article. A bit of a long read, but well worth it. I forwarded it to my mother-in-law. I can’t wait to watch her head explode on her web cam as she reads it.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:42 pmSays Who says:
(you must’ve thinking really hard–joe cantwell)antation).
NA not workin out so good for ya, ay? :(
I didn’t vote the above comment down because Says Who is probably suffering from PTSD from all the fighting he’s been doing in Iraq/Afghanistan supporting George Bush’s wars and our freedoms and freedom accessories and such.
Give a guy who can’t decide of George Bush and Dick Cheney lied about torture being effective, or torture being violent, will ya ?
September 13th, 2009 at 8:43 pmOn Bobby Jindal .. I’m sorry, my party CANNOT vote in a dark skinned guy for president. He can agree with me until he’s blue in the face, but once a democrat does it (and, phew, they always do) it’s off the table. With that, I’m still willing to vote for Michelle Bachmann .. for now.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:43 pmSleigh Pooh: Oh YaY! I lurb yew!!
September 13th, 2009 at 8:45 pmDark Power says:
(Associated Press) Despite Democratic successes in the past two elections, continuing job losses and President Obama’s slipping support could lead to double-digit losses for the party …
Could the AP be any further to the right? What happened?
Ron Fournier be da man. He be da man.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:46 pmAfter reading the AP (associated propaganda), I always laugh when I hear the wingnuts complaing about a liberal media.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:46 pmDark Power…huh, Didnt Trajan or was it Pee, just use that phrase?
September 13th, 2009 at 8:47 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says: I have to repeat that to myself: President DeMint. President Candy McCain.
Sounds like an ice cream box social! With toppings! Like nuts, and sweets from Bachmann. :D
September 13th, 2009 at 8:49 pm#274 Says Who – could you repeat that, this time with your dentures in.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:50 pm***
#305,
good one.
:)
September 13th, 2009 at 8:51 pmHutchinson has over indulged in the Prolefeed. Republicans are busy creating fake problems to yell and scream about while ignoring the very real and sizable problems our country is facing. Tax cuts and blind Jingoism have been tried and proven to be terrible for the country.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:52 pmBTW, Says Who, I’m a burrowed appointee from the Bush Admnistration working in the Social Security Administration. If you’d like to give up your socialist security, please give me a call. With one more ‘opt out’ we can make America more free. Don’t forget to call Medicare and make the same request.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:52 pm“Jingoism”, an excellent term to describe the cornerstone of the fascist Republican propaganda.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:55 pmI shudder to think what would have happened to Social Security if Dubyer had got it privatized.
There would be no one at the [) ][ (( ]< rally.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:55 pmDeath Counselor just showed up on the Beck fan thread. I don’t know if he’s a plant or really nuts, but I think we should just flag him.
Any thoughts.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:56 pmi can see ole kay bailey is trying to make inroads to the lunatic constituency vote currently monopolized by rick the assclown perry in her bid for governor
September 13th, 2009 at 8:57 pmLevi,
You’re welcome. I’m always happy to help heads explode.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:57 pmDark Power says: (Associated Press) Despite Democratic successes in the past two elections, continuing job losses and President Obama’s slipping support could lead to double-digit losses for the party …
OR, the party in power could lose some seats as historically they ALWAYS do in the mid-term following a General Election…OR..other things might happen! Or not!
Could the AP be any further to the right? What happened?
Some right-winger journo-hack named Solomon is now some kind of national editor-in-chief of AP, and AP relies quite a bit on mega-corporate media for income, which relies on the GOP of course.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:58 pmKay is just keeping us posted on what Southern white males are thinking.
September 13th, 2009 at 8:58 pm5th Estate says:
What the GOP REALLY means … says: I have to repeat that to myself: President DeMint. President Candy McCain.
Sounds like an ice cream box social! With toppings! Like nuts, and sweets from Bachmann. :D
With names so sweet, how could they possibly be republicans? Shoulda asked McCain to change his name, he coulda won. Think about it, our leader could be President Smucker’s by now!
Wait, he’s still sweet isn’t he?
September 13th, 2009 at 8:59 pm” “a dangerous precedent that undermines the Constitution’s guarantee of separated powers.”
this coming from a borad who for the past eight years cheerleaded for an administration in which the vice president didn’t know if he were part of the executive or legislative branch?
September 13th, 2009 at 9:02 pmIsnt it strange that the DICKers didnt want to bail out wall street [I didnt either] but now they want their TBTF health insurance in their hands?
September 13th, 2009 at 9:02 pmThe communist wimp sits behind his computer playing with ‘vote down’.
Wimp much, independent communist?
September 13th, 2009 at 9:06 pmOooooh!
Someone had just been hitting the vote down button on every comment possible since #307!
Someone is having a thrombo!
Someone thinks that gaming the voting system when the majority of ballot/exit polls indicate a clear progressive majority thinks their little subterfuge will go unnoticed!
Someone is cranky and it is way past someone’s bed-time
September 13th, 2009 at 9:08 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says: “Think about it, our leader could be President Smucker’s by now!”
And his Chief of Stuff would have been Willard Scott?
What could possibly be wrong with that! :D
September 13th, 2009 at 9:12 pmQuick question: Can anyone name a single law or policy that was enacted by a czar without a bill from congress or the approval president?
September 13th, 2009 at 9:12 pmAaronQ of Maine says:
____________
Quicker question: Can anyone name a single position w/in ANY Administration, ever that used the word “Czar” in the official title or job description?
JUST… ONE…
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaitin’…
September 13th, 2009 at 9:18 pmthe most important “czar” for obama to appoint would be one to slap repukelican politicians in the pie hole everytime they lie.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:18 pmcome to think of it why limit it to just lying, how about everytime they open their pieholes.
AaronQ of Maine says: Quick question: Can anyone name a single law or policy that was enacted by a czar without a bill from congress or the approval president?
The Box-turtle sex death-panel marsh-mouse rescue bill that Rep. Coburn has thankfully put a secret ‘hold’ on?
September 13th, 2009 at 9:27 pmOT
Spain is going to prosecute the Bush lawyers.
I hope this leads to prosecution for Bush and Cheney and every Republican involved. In any case, it’s worth celebrating. At least Spain still respects the rule of law.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:30 pm***
#325,
i know that one.
rep. coburn was for it
before he was against it.
:\
September 13th, 2009 at 9:30 pmThe same people that whimper about czars wouldn’t know what to do without some demagogue telling them what to think and do.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:35 pmThe same people that whimper about czars wouldn’t know what to do without some demagogue telling them what to think and do.
____________
Funny how that works, isn’t it?
September 13th, 2009 at 10:04 pmIt is the same stupid demented troll from the Olbermann stalker / hate site.
AKA
Jeff (Jeff M.) (his real name and he DOES jack off horses for a living, and is a closet homosexual like his idol Dr. Weiners)
royal king (and variations)
olby sucks
Also trolled Think Progress under
orange one, archie and a list of who the fk cares, it is the same “independent” moron and boasted about his trolling, along with Trajan.
You have seen him at work today. Accusing different Think Progress posters of being “patsy” much to the hilarity of all of us.
Any of you guys want to play whack-a-troll with Jeffy Bovine, feel free to do so. Just keep in mind he is retarded.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:04 pmO/T: Our condolences to Annie Le’s family. This is horrific.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:14 pmHow many of the czar postions were first created under a rethug administration. These people have nothing to offer but pure insanity used to pander to the people so illiterate they listen to them. The GOP is for stoooopid people. The crazies have taken the GOP over.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:30 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
What do you care if I break character, lib? Obami breaks character all the time. He broke an Acorn with his U.S.S. bare hands.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:51 pm Vote Up | Vote Down | (-4)
More sharpness than snarkness may have came out of this post than intended. No offense at all meant to ralph.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:37 pmI’ll resume being the eyes and ears of the sneaky liberal agenda tomorrow. People want to know the troof!
September 13th, 2009 at 10:39 pmThis country needs to witness a thug from the Bush Crime Family being perp walked on all networks. Once a thug goes down the entire attitude toward healthcare, cap and trade and taxation will change for many wingnuts.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:57 pmkasinca says:
How many of the czar postions were first created under a rethug administration.
I know it may seem like I’m repeating myself here, but Bush had 35 czar positions, a historical record. Obama has 31.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:06 pm# 335 Says Who says: 330. Seek help, sooooon!
I did that on November 4, 2008, along with the majority of the electorate. It’s not been the very-best help, but the majority seems to agree that the help provided has actually been HELP and an improvement over the crushing hindrances of the last 8 years.
How’s that $1 Trillion war you’ve been supporting and fighting for all these years going? Did you catch Bin Laden yet? Is there a square in Baghdad named after George W. Bush yet? Did all those tax-breaks for the wealthiest and the corporations start working yet? How’s the “Ownership Society” coming along?–Home ownership must be THROUGH THE ROOF by now!! Did NASA get to Mars yet? I guess GPS in-car navigation systems made the “Roadmap to Peace” redundant? Only two Israeli wars between 2006 and 2009 does sound kinda peaceful, doesn’t it?
September 13th, 2009 at 11:06 pmI’m done for today.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:22 pmNobody clicks on links from reich wing tools.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:33 pm#339 5th Estate says: I’m done for today.
Hey, says who...Psyche!
a single crappy link without comment is the last visible refuge of a mindless defeated troll, (the last invisible refuge being statistically pointless retroactive vote-downs)
September 13th, 2009 at 11:41 pmSays Who says:
You must be another one of those “open minded” progressives, right?
It’s an email link, you mouth-breathing troglodyte.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:44 pmHi Shayne! Says who is in a snit, just voting down everything he can.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:45 pmThese racist people don’t know when to stop stupid.
She is definitely one of the teabaggers.
They get caught in their lies and still they remain proud IDIOTS!
It sure must stink that President Obama has a white in his blood, you teabaggers’ imbeciles, otherwise you tables would have a field day.
You sound stupid, ignorant and trashy. You are traitors, liars and thieves. You are insensitive, angry and nasty. You are warmongers, looters and very dangerous.
Oh yeah the Thousands Old Racist March was a flop. HAHAHAHA freeworks and racist commentators have been hawking this “march” for months. If they lie and say 60k, it’s probably half of that. HAHAHAHAHA
Masey’s Parade has more people in attendance. LOSERS!
September 13th, 2009 at 11:47 pmHi, Elbruce,
I’d vote you down but then I’m not a mouth-breathing troglodyte who never answers a question.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:50 pmhey says who, I could be a dick like you and vote you down to a -3, just to score some kind of point and validate myself, but I don’t do vote downs just because of a lame retort and thankfully I don’t have your personal issues.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:56 pmwell. I rally am done for the night now.
or am I……?
oooh…. how can anyone be sure?
September 14th, 2009 at 12:00 am***
#340,
bush.
thanks for asking.
:)
walked into that one, didn’t you?
:)
September 14th, 2009 at 12:03 amI really don’t know who is more stupid. A supposed “lawmaker” for spouting that crap,or the Post for printing it.We are truly moving closer and closer to becoming an Idiocracy every day.
September 14th, 2009 at 1:10 am@ 64, MapleStreet says: Would they be happier if we should call them “Rasputins” or “Stalins” ? After all, those 2 did away with the czars didn’t they ? September 13th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Close, MS. Stalin had a hand in it, perhaps. Rasputin, not so much.
The tsar was actually brought down in the initial phase of the Russian Revolution, when he was forced out of power by a government led by Kerensky. The Kerensky government was in turn pushed out of power by a Communist coup d’etat led by Lenin, who headed the Bolshevik faction of the party. The Bolsheviks went on to suppress the other faction of the party as well as the Socialists and various other “left” parties, a well as fighting a civil war against the “Whites”, who were a collection of tsarists (monarchists), democrats, and other non-leftist groups. During that civil war, Lenin and the Bolshevik leaders, including Stalin, had the tsar and his family executed.
(Grigori) Rasputin was what Europeans would call a ‘hedge’ priest; he had no particular formal training as a priest, but he was a charismatic and was reputed to have healing powers. Well before the revolution, before World War I in fact, Rasputin came to the attention of the tsaritsa, the tsar’s wife, and he apparently became the equivalent to a royal court shaman. He was assassinated before the revolution by a group of noblemen who considered his influence at court to be intolerable to their interest.
September 14th, 2009 at 1:38 amRe:3 #351…since I’m making up words, it seems to me that idiotacracy would be more appropriate.
September 14th, 2009 at 2:25 am…..or is it idiotocracy? It’s late, need more caffeen.
September 14th, 2009 at 2:28 am***
#353,
you’re a little late.
:\
September 14th, 2009 at 2:28 amPoop!
September 14th, 2009 at 2:42 amexcuse me?
September 14th, 2009 at 2:46 amNot Dick(head) Cheney?
Zooey says:
September 14th, 2009 at 6:53 amThe “DICK” would be in honor of Dick Armey, of course. ;)
bush always reminded me of lord farquad of shrek fame.
September 14th, 2009 at 7:14 amIs that the best the Republicans can do? On one hand they’re like Screaming Banshees. On the other hand they have got too many czars. Oooo. You’ve got more than we had. We’re Republicans. We were born to rule! You’re not allowed to have more than us. Oooo.
September 14th, 2009 at 7:37 amGEORGE BUSH’S CZARS:
Abstinence Czar (Randal Tobias)
AIDS Czar (4 Czars: Scott Evertz, Joe O’Neill, Carol Thompson, Jeffrey Crowley)
Bank Bailout Czar (Neel Kashkari)
Bioethics Czar ( Leon Kass)
Bird flu Czar (Stewart Simonson)
Birth control czar (Erik Keroack)
Budget czar (3 Czars: Mitchell Daniels, Joshua Bolton, Rob Portman)
Clean Up Czar (2 Czars: Jessie Roberson & James Rispoli)
Communications Czar (Dan Bartlett)
Cyber Security Czar, Cyber Czar (2 Czars: Richard Clarke, Rod Beckstrom)
Democracy Czar (Elliott Abrams)
Domestic Policy Czar (Karl Rove)
Drug Czar (John P. Walters)
Faith-Based Czar, Faith Czar (4 Czars: Don Willett, John Dilulio, Jim Towey, Jay Hein)
Food Safety Czar (David W.K. Acheson)
Global AIDS Czar (2 Czars: Randall Tobias, Mark Dybul)
Health Czar for WTC, World Trade Center Health Czar (John Howard)
Health IT Czar (David Brailer)
Homeland Security Czar (Michael Chertoff)
Homeless Czar, Homelessness Czar (Phil Mangano)
Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar, Hurricane Katrina Recovery Czar (Donald E. Powell)
Intelligence Czar (2 Czars: John Negroponte & John Michael McConnell)
Manufacturing Czar (2 Czars: Albert Frink & William G. Sutton)
Policy Czar (Micahel Gerson)
Public Diplomacy Czar (2 Czars: Karen Hughes & James Glassman)
Reading Czar (G. Reid Lyon)
Regulatory Czar (2 Czars: John D. Graham & Susan Dudley)
Science Czar (John Marburger)
Terrorism Czar (3 Czars: Richard A. Clarke, Wayne Downing, John O. Brennan)
War Czar (Douglas Lute)
http://whitenoiseinsanity.com/2009/09/07/george-bush-36-czars-working-president-obama-32-czars/
September 14th, 2009 at 8:28 amThanks, KIM
Of which:
FAIL:
Abstinence Xzar
Birth Control Czar
Democracy Czar
Drug Czar
Health Czar for WTC
Homeland Security Czar
Homeless Czar
Reading Czar
Terrorisl Czar
EPIC FAIL:
September 14th, 2009 at 9:09 amBank Bailout Czar
Budget Czar
Domestic Policy Czar
Food Safety
Gulf Coast Reconstruction Czar
Manufacturing Czar
Policy Czar
Public Diplomacy Czar
Regulatory Czar
Science Czar
War Czar
ralph the wonder llama says:
What the GOP REALLY means … says:
Big thumbs up, Wayne. That’s precisely the suspicion I had about these polls but couldn’t put it in words. You put it down very well.
Hey, hey hey!
Don’t break character. It freaks me out.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
What the GOP REALLY means … says:
What do you care if I break character, lib? Obami breaks character all the time. He broke an Acorn with his U.S.S. bare hands.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:51 pm Vote Up | Vote Down | (-6) |
What the GOP REALLY means … says:
What the GOP REALLY means … says:
What do you care if I break character, lib? Obami breaks character all the time. He broke an Acorn with his U.S.S. bare hands.
September 13th, 2009 at 7:51 pm Vote Up | Vote Down | (-4)
More sharpness than snarkness may have came out of this post than intended. No offense at all meant to ralph.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:37 pm Vote Up | Vote Down | (2) |
Now that was funny!
September 14th, 2009 at 10:57 amOnly a few of the Republican Media Czars have formal titles, and few of them have ever held political office: Glenn Beck, Bill O’Reilly, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Bill Kristol, Sarah Palin. And yet they hold power over broad swaths of Republican policy.
September 14th, 2009 at 2:29 pmTsar or czar[1] (Bulgarian ???, Russian: ???? (help·info), Ukrainian: ???, in Serbian: ??? / car, in scientific transliteration respectively car’ and car), occasionally spelled csar or tzar in English, is a Slavic term with Bulgarian origins used to designate certain monarchs. The first ruler to adopt the title tsar was Simeon I of Bulgaria [2]
Thanks to WIKI.
Our political discourse is going so far astray as the minority party attempts to rebound by prejudice, hate, fear, propaganda and distraction, while the majority engages and validates. Time to move on. Oooops, the dems have Baucus, Wyden, et. al. WE ALL lose.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pmThank you for your sharing.!
September 16th, 2009 at 10:11 pm