Health Insurance Insider Slams Baucus Bill: ‘An Absolute Gift To The Insurance Industry’
Health Insurance Insider Slams Baucus Bill: ‘An Absolute Gift To The Insurance Industry’
On the eve of the Senate Finance Committee’s release of its much anticipated health care plan, Wendell Potter — the insurance industry whistle blower and former communications director of health insurance giant Cigna — called the Baucus framework “an absolute gift to the industry.” “And if that is what we see in the legislation, [America’s Health Insurance Plans chief] Karen Ignagni will surely get a huge bonus,” Potter said at a briefing for reporters.
The bill establishes a new regulated health insurance exchange and compels every American to purchase qualified health insurance coverage by 2013. Americans with employer-sponsored insurance can stay in their existing plans, while the uninsured would have to enroll in an expanded Medicaid program, a new plan in the Exchange or the now-regulated individual health insurance market. According to a report released by the Congressional Budget Office, the bill would cover 94% of Americans and cost $880 billion over 10 years.
Potter argued that the lax employer requirements would shift the cost and risk of coverage onto the individual and maintained that the bill’s “network of cooperatives” would be unable to compete in today’s concentrated health insurance markets. “The co-ops won’t stand a chance,” he concluded.
Reform must also do more to regulate insurers, who have agreed to accept applicants with pre-existing conditions but are insisting on benefit and rate flexibility. Potter argued that the benefit package standards in the Exchange and the high deductible option for younger beneficiaries would allow insurers to design almost anything that they can sell in the health market place and push the country towards consumer driven health care.
Under the Baucus legislation, private insurers could also charge older individuals up to five times more for coverage. “You’re just using age as a proxy for health status,” Uwe Reinhardt, an economics professor at Princeton University told the New York Times. Reinhardt estimates that “Senator Baucus’s age-rating plan would allow insurers to cover roughly 70 percent of the additional risk they’d take on by being required to accept all comers, regardless of health.”
Cross-posted on The Wonk Room.
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What did we expect? The corporations own Congress.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:40 amGovernor William J. Le Petomane: What the hell is this?
Hedley Lamarr: This is the bill that will convert the state hospital for the insane into the William J. Le Petomane memorial gambling casino for the insane.
Governor William J. Le Petomane: [Standing up proudly] Gentlemen, this bill will be a giant step forward in the treatment of the insane gambler.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:42 amShaking my head this is so sad. I hope that went this bill come out and goes to the rest of the senate the HELP committed throws most o fit out and votes on there bill.
Then the house can get with the senate and pass a reform that we can live with.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:43 amRUCerious says:
September 15th, 2009 at 10:45 amgive me a harrumph!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, yes, and we’ll need a bloated investment sector in order to steal more of granny’s retirement kitty.
Insurance derivatives for all portfolios!
What else can we do, oh mighty overlords, to further your economic accretion?
September 15th, 2009 at 10:45 amHealth Insurance Insider Slams Baucus Bill: ‘An Absolute Gift To The Insurance Industry’
– - And how widely and loudly will this be reported in the MSM? It’s a good thing Wendell Potter looks like so many of the 9/12errs. If he had been a minority he’d have no credibility with the public.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:46 amBaucus better wake up and realize that his reelection depends on him supporting MEANINGFUL health insurance reform
September 15th, 2009 at 10:46 amThis is how much it cost the health industry to keep Max Baucus a toadie instead of a representative, $3,973,485 to him alone from 2003-2008.
Almost $4 million in 5 years just to turn a blind eye and to say no on command. Only in America.
No, no, no, no, no, (closing eyes), no, no, no, no, no, no, no
no, no, no, no, no, (closing eyes), no, no, no, no, no, no, no
no, no, no, no, no, (closing eyes), no, no, no, no, no, no, no
no, no, no, no, no, (closing eyes), no, no, no, no, no, no, no
no, no, no, no, no, (closing eyes), no, no, no, no, no, no, no
no, no, no, no, no, (closing eyes), no, no, no, no, no, no, no
That was pretty easy, where’s my check?
September 15th, 2009 at 10:47 amShameful. Absolutely shameful.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:49 amRU C @ #2: I’m not really up on all the web acronyms, but if I were in charge there would be YAMMPMPYB (you almost made me pi$$ my pants you bastard).
That being said, Baucus should just turn in his progressive credentials. Shouldn’t be hard, since he already turned in his dignity. But Lieberman should be happy, since he’s no longer the biggest turncoat at the party…
September 15th, 2009 at 10:49 amThis is it. This is the bill we’ve been waiting for. When this bill comes out of committee, don’t you demlibs touch it. This cash dump is going to be awesome.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:50 amI tried to warn the tenbirfdeathers that they were gonna get shafted for supporting the astroturfers, I did, I really did. But no, they are complete and total dupes and have been and will continue to be bamboozled.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:53 amMr. Evil: I’ll chime in with a big NO!
September 15th, 2009 at 10:53 amRT, more like:
Baucus woke from his dream and realized that his reelection depends SOLELY upon him supporting corporate agendas which keeps the coffers full, and diminishes the roar from the electorate to a soothing hum.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:55 amBaucus is a lobbyist that also takes a public paycheck just like the other 534 sellouts of democracy for special interests
September 15th, 2009 at 10:55 amWell, maybe this will get the ‘wackos’ to turn against their Dr Frankenstein
One can hope yanno
September 15th, 2009 at 10:57 amSeptember 15th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Potter argued that the lax employer requirements would shift the cost and risk of coverage onto the individual and maintained that the bill’s “network of cooperatives” would be unable to compete in today’s concentrated health insurance markets. “The co-ops won’t stand a chance,” he concluded.
My party’s benefactors will have met their match with wittle co-ops. Vewy scawy!
Baaahahahahahahahha!
Pweese, Maxy, pweese! Spare us the might of your co-op!
September 15th, 2009 at 10:58 amI always knew that the Gang of Six was up to no good.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:00 amLike I give a shit this will add to the deficits. Deficits don’t matter if you don’t spend the money on the little guy.
Congratulations, Gang-rape of Six. You’ve done your work well. Now ram it through!
September 15th, 2009 at 11:01 amGood luck changing the way Business inside the Beltway is done, even by enacting strict legislation barring corporations and lobbyists from directly influencing elected officials.
Astroturfers, The Dick Army, et. al. (like few lobby efforts prior), have seized the mindset of the sheeple well in advance of any attempts to thwart corruption through laws and amendments.
In other words, the lobbyists have adopted a “southern strategy” of sorts.
And it works.
If it comes down to merely a game of numbers, we’re failing miserably at getting our voices heard.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:01 amIs it Bauc-us or Bauc-them?
September 15th, 2009 at 11:04 amMy party can hardly contain their excitement. The more details are released, the more vigorous they will masterbate.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:05 amA bit more eloquent than my drivel:
It’s Time For Health Care Refomers To Do Their Own Street Theater
September 15th, 2009 at 11:06 amIs Sen. Max “Pimp” Baucus chairman of the Senate’s We Hate the American People Caucus?
September 15th, 2009 at 11:07 amthe baucus bill means nothing. It won’t even be considered.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:07 amAnd if that is what we see in the legislation, [America’s Health Insurance Plans chief] Karen Ignagni will surely get a huge bonus,”
Who wouldn’t marry Karen IgGAGni?
When she gets her bonus one of you commoners will be giving her a pedicure. That will be fun.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:08 amWell, really, the dupes didnt kill the public option, they were just useful in creating a fake opposition that our congressional frauds could point at for coverage of their anti-democratic serfdumb to big money.
Yet they will say they killed health reform, lol, when they were just silly little cheerleaders of some rigged event.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:08 amWonderful!!! I’m retired and thanks to greedy Wall Street I no longer earn a penny off my once generous retirement funds. So down, down, down goes my principal. And now they want to make me pay five times more for insurance. That truly is killing off everyone on Medicare.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:08 amI just want to be part of her Cougar harem.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:09 amSo you’re, like, telling me, like, the bill started as a bill that would establish a national health insurance – providing health insurance for all – and the repubs amended it to make a system that is a boondoggle for the corporations and anchor around the neck of the people ?
Boy am I surprised !
September 15th, 2009 at 11:11 amLook over there, it’s the public option!
(Max, now’s your chance – ram it through!)
September 15th, 2009 at 11:11 amWait … you libs are going on a full campaign to air out the bullshit of this bill, aren’t you?
F uck.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:13 amPerhaps your right, maybe, just as before, with Nixon and Hillary, reform will be dropped for yet another politician, left or right, to pick up that canard and run with again.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:13 amYes, let’s find a way to force everyone to buy insurance from these leeches. The insurance companies get even richer and Max and friends get another ‘campaign contribution’ and maybe a cash reward to a nice, numbered, private account in the Caymans.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:15 amseriously, the baucus bill is supposed to be the “bi-partisan” bill. You know the one that not one republican supports or will commit to supporting. Ever!
Why does anyone think that this is what will be relevant in any way?
September 15th, 2009 at 11:17 amI would suggest that nothing is settled yet. Some of the more liberal Dems may try to bargain. Baucus and the other Blue Dogs will the rest of the Dems votes on other bills. If Baucus angers the more liberal Dems, he may pay for it with a loss of support for other bills.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:18 amI would have until 2013 to buy from one of the great subsidiaries of America’s Health Insurance Plans?
This means I have a choice? Cool!
I’ll start saving for my $6000 deductible.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:18 amBTW, Max Baucus is the oldest heartthrobbing backstreet boy I’ve come to know.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:20 amSen. Baucus needs the bad Joe Wilson treatment. Only he needs to apologize to Democrats, the uninsured and the American people generally for his bill.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:20 amThis Gang of Six is about as beneficial to the public as China’s Gang of Four.
It’s coming down to a philosophical question: Do we support this horrendous $880b gift to the insurance companies that includes only a few elements of reform…or do we try to defeat it and live the political fallout? If the bill fails, Obama won’t get another opportunity and we wait until 2017.
Realistically, this garbage is still better than the status quo. Congress is not a place of rational debate and just governance. If this bill fails, the Dems fail with it.
And, once again, Europe is collectively laughing at us.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:21 amReally, 80% of Americans wanted real health care reform. Obama tried to make that happen.
Who do you think they will blame?
September 15th, 2009 at 11:24 amsmudget, you live in a dream world. Not reality.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:25 amRep. Weiner (D-NY) was on Bill Maher’s show Friday night.
I’m impressed with Mr. Weiner. He’s a great communicator, charismatic and intelligent.
Qualities rarely found in our elected officials, by the way.
He summed up the entire reform debate as well as anyone I’ve heard, to date, but his take on insurers was particularly pertinent.
‘What do they produce’?, he asked…nothing. A Public Option would immediately reduce the overhead, admin fees and costs in general.
I’d rather have a government worker between me & my Dr. than a greedy, profit driven corporation between me & my Dr.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:25 amsmudget says:
Would it be safe to say cash for clunkers was a total failure?
– - Would it be safe to say smudget’s post was a total failure?
September 15th, 2009 at 11:26 amEnnuiDivine – we should scrap this bill and do reform the right way – NOT! Not anymore!
The challenge now is, how do we sneak this platinum gold from the Finance Committee straight to the White House?
September 15th, 2009 at 11:26 am3 cheers for Wendell Potter; the only corporatecritter to crawl out of the insurance hive & speak the truth to date.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:28 amThis is bogus Baucus to the Max. What we need are more multi-millionaires like Kennedy who already have their money and who seek the public good, rather than the greedy pols who through payoffs etc. seek to gain millions, and don’t give a damn what becomes of the minions.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:29 amYou know how this wonderful bill should be titled?
Cash for Clunkers!!!
September 15th, 2009 at 11:30 am***
#’s 39, 43 & 45
smudget = trajan
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Reggie says:
I promised on Friday to provide web_shots of web pages that offer proof that Trajan was responsible for Troll attacks on Progressive blogs.
Here to a webshot where Trajan75 aka Roadan bragging about forcing Think Progress to implement registration because of his troll attacks.
Here is another one where Trajan brags about his bringing Think Progress, Crooks and Liars as well as Newshounds to their knees.
Trajan is a contributor at Olbermann Watch and at Eric Odom’s
Think Progress Watch. Odom is the self proclaimed founder of the Tea Party Movement and runs the American Liberty Institute.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:16 am
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it’s a cyber attack and i think tp has grounds
for a restraining order and a law suit.
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twajie how’s that ugly girlfriend of yours?
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 11:32 amaww honey, I’m just trying to help you understand the world you live in. It’s hard work as gw says but you still have to try.
Americans wanted health care reform, Obama tried to get it for them. The gop is trying to stop it!!!!
It’s not rocket science. It’s kinda like when you guys said that tax cuts for the rich and deregulation would user in a new era of prosperity. Remember how that worked out and how the American people reacted?
September 15th, 2009 at 11:32 amMODSQUAD @#10 ~ **takes a short bow**
September 15th, 2009 at 11:35 amAt least you don’t have coffee all over your keyboard!
Everytime I wipe my a$$ I see smudget on my toilet paper. Do you guys see the same thing I do? Just curious…
September 15th, 2009 at 11:35 amPlease don’t let there be a new thread, TP! I’m so excited about this giveaway my voice is sqeaking!
September 15th, 2009 at 11:36 amfudget says:
The gop is trying to stop it!!!!
Who controls both houses and who is president?
C’mon, Troll, even elementary children who weren’t allowed to see our President speak knows that.
Home schooled much?
September 15th, 2009 at 11:41 amYou want to pretend that progressives are idealgogues like the right? That we walk lock-step over the cliff like the gop just has? That what you want to pretend this morning?
Wake up little fella and smell the coffee. It smells like a more progressive America.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:42 amI’m glad you brought that up. That means you don’t want to discuss and only want to disrupt and try to keep us from talking about what we want to do without any input from you since you have decided to sit in the corner and suck your thumb after your tantrums failed to get the attention you had hoped for.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:45 amThere was a poll in November……heh.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:46 amPatrioticLiberalChristian says:
Is it Bauc-us or Bauc-them?
It’s more like Hooray for us and fcuk them.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:46 amhttp://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=1956
Smells like you need a new line, smudget.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:48 amNope, it’s the fault of idiots like you who vote and protest against your own best interest because you’re too stupid to know any better. This country has been brought to its knees because dumb and uninformed people are led willingly off a cliff and try to take the rest of us with you.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:52 am***
like being scrubbed twajie?
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link and link.
;)
September 15th, 2009 at 11:52 amBadmoodman says:
– – Would it be safe to say smudget’s post was a total failure?
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Yes…
September 15th, 2009 at 11:53 am***
#73,
tros,
see #54.
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thank you.
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 11:55 amIt’s really nice that you are worried about us but if I were you I would be more worried about the future or lack of a future for the gop. They are currently less popular than bush and since the election congress’s approval rating has jumped considerably.
So I would just ask you, how’s your divisiveness and failure working out for you.
Forgot to mention, the economy is recovering since the gop was removed from power.
You seem to be shooting blanks.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:55 am***
#75,
fred,
see #54.
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thank you.
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 11:56 amShayne says:
Nope, it’s the fault of idiots like you who vote and protest against your own best interest because you’re too stupid to know any better.
_________
Therein lies the problem, Shayne… someone like smudgy here IS simply too stupid to even understand your comment.
Nelson Muntz comes to mind…
I foresee a lifetime of dirty dishes in smudgy’s future…
September 15th, 2009 at 11:57 am***
#77,
shayne,
see #54.
*
thank you.
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 11:57 amsmudget says:
Tee hee… see ya in 2010! hee, hee…
Back on topic: Baucus has miscalculated here, I think.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:58 amThis deal is going to be done without him or his cronies… you only need 60 votes for cloture… we only need 51 to pass it.
Thanks joe, makes perfect sense.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:59 amjoe cantwell, to a moron and worthless as smurfet no girlfriend is too ugly for him. It’s hard to find lobotomized dates these days and who else wouldn’t be embarrassed by him?
September 15th, 2009 at 12:00 pmI’m trying to put this Baucus fiasco into perspective, given my own circumstances. I currently pay through the nose for my COBRA which will expire 10-31-11. With my significant pre-existing conditions, I stand zero chance of procuring any health insurance, at any price, until this bullshit new plan hatches in 2013. At that time I’ll be 60 years old and be forced to participate in a mandated plan that may charge oldtimers 5 times more for coverage. Five times what I’m paying now translates into thousands of dollars per month I’d be forced to pay? I think not. Let them throw my wrinkly old ass in jail for non-participation. If this is health care reform, they can shove it up their collective a$$e$. I will not turn over 50-70% of my income to the greedy motherfu(kers who are ruining this country.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:00 pmThank you. You are exactly right. No republican will be part of this and they know that if it succeeds they will pay.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:01 pmWe’re not going to pass Max’s plan as written.
(i see the meth abuser is here again. that’s funny)
September 15th, 2009 at 12:02 pmMax Baucus needs to lose in the primaries at his next election. The list of people we need to donate to in order to defeat those that have done us harm is getting longer every day.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:02 pmESL, now would be a good time to try to qualify for SS disability so you can get Medicare. Unless there’s a public option everybody is screwed. I give union benefits to employees and they just lost $2/hr in wages to pay for the new health insurance plan.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:06 pmDirty dishes is correct since he’s obviously too stupid to figure out how to get them clean.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:08 pmEveryone knows this is going to be a bad proposal coming out of Finance. Leaving aside the repubs, it is Max Baucus and Kent Conrad (Dems from states with tiny populations but huge hands in the private insurance cookie jar) who crafted it.
I am hoping that Obama did not have a hand in it as well, but am not to confident that he didn’t.
It would be shocking if this thing even made it out of committee. Warch closely what the final details are and who votes for and against it.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:08 pmsmudget says:
Would it be safe to say cash for clunkers was a total failure?
Nope. It worked much better than expected, actually.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:09 pmNope. It worked much better than expected, actually.
Exactly. Cash for Clunkers was the most successful short term stimulus program in recent history. And it didn’t just help the auto industry…
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20090915/us-retail-sales-15-09.htm
September 15th, 2009 at 12:12 pm85.
Brian Schweitzer is term-limited in 2012. Too bad he’d never challenge Baucus. Perhaps Baucus can be persuaded to retire. He already has the golden parachute the insurance corps give to their own.
Schweitzer is pro-choice, pro-gun, pro-environment, pro-public healthcare and anti-war. Good, old-fashioned Western libertarian-leaning progressive.
Just the kind we need.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:12 pm***
#80,
yw,
pass it on.
:)
#79,
bel,
see #54.
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thank you.
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 12:14 pmAhh, okay joe… thanks.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:15 pm***
#89
bruce,
see #54.
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thank you.
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 12:15 pmOk, we know this, but my question is this: How can the progressives in the Finance Committee (Rockefeller and Schumer for example) stop it?!
September 15th, 2009 at 12:16 pm***
#94,
yw bel.
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btw twajie’s gf?
really ugly.
:0
September 15th, 2009 at 12:16 pmShayne says:
ESL, now would be a good time to try to qualify for SS disability so you can get Medicare.
Given my self-employment status and working from my home doing computer based drafting and design, I doubt they’d ever approve me.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:19 pmsmudget says:
Oh, clearly.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:20 pmI’m not sure I understand the question. baucus’s bill is in a committee that is split 3-3 and all the other bills are out of committee. the baucus bill is just a distraction.
it’s not even being considered or taken seriously.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:20 pmsmudeged shorts, we are through with you.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:21 pmP.S. Plagarism is a crime.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:25 pm**
#106,
chyron,
see #54.
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thank you.
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 12:29 pm***
#106,
btw,
twajie loves stealing other peoples work
and claiming it for his own.
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that’s how we know it’s twajie.
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 12:32 pmWell no shit Jackson. Do you think that any bill that the insurance lobby likes is going to be good for anyone but THEM??? Tell you what. Sue every god damn one of the big insurers for collusion and break them up into smaller companies and FORCE them to compete agains’t everyone else. Other than a public option that’s the ONLY way health care reform will benefit the consumer.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:34 pmsmudget says:
It’s over, finished, done. And quiet returns to the auto showrooms of America…
If you were the manager of a store, and they had a big sale, you’d probably view the empty shelves at the end of the day as a big failure too.
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smudget says:
The cash for clunkers program has been touted as a success, and it may be, but the question is “a success for whom?”
Car consumers and the automotive industry.
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smudget says:
Oh sure politicians can authorize handing out $4500 of our money, be astonished that people want it and then declare the program a success.
Despite the name, people didn’t just get handed cash. If that’s what you believe, you’re too uninformed to even talk about it.
They brought in their cars for up to $4500 of trade-in value towards a new car. Before that, nobody was buying new cars.
Noted Chyron’s plagiarism catch in 106, too.
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smudget says:
Only 800 billion over the next 10 yrs? Sounds like a great deal, right?
Compared to what health insurance is costing the nation now, that’s a huge savings.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:36 pmsmudget says:
Only 800 billion over the next 10 yrs? Sounds like a great deal, right?
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At $80BB/yr, it actually does.
Right now the US is spending nearly twice as much per yr as the rest of the industrialized world on health care and we’re ranked 37th in world by WHO. Doesn’t sound like much bang for the buck to me.
Let’s face it… you’re only here to annoy people. You have NO valid viewpoint to present, or meaningful information to provide. You just think you’re clever and you’re only trying to get on people’s nerves because you have no other purpose in life.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:36 pmsmudget says:
Pathetic to say the least.
__________
At least you do recognize yourself.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:37 pmthe messenger is dense and doesn’t get reality. Kinda like faux news.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:40 pm***
#109, #111 and #116,
we’ve heard it before twajie.
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 12:46 pmJerry498 says:
Car consumers and the automotive industry.
Is that why Obama is out apologizing to the dealers, today?
Boy, you guys really have NOTHING, do you?
Must be frustrating…
BTW, Baucus and his health insurance cronies won’t get any traction on this bill… you guys know how he feels, huh?
September 15th, 2009 at 12:47 pmHe’s not and they would kiss his ass on main street if he would do another cash for clunkers. Guaranteed.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:48 pm***
#100,
stealing again twajie?
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how’s that for “one trick”?
:
September 15th, 2009 at 12:49 pm#119,
fred,
please don’t make the same mistake twice.
you are not talking to a troll named “jerry”.
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thank you.
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 12:51 pmJerry498 says:
ZZZZZZZ
Got anything to say about the topic of this thread?
Or is ‘topical’ a bad word ’round your place… I understand those rashes can be pretty annoying, much like yourself!
I’ll say it again… 60 votes needed for cloture… 51 needed to pass legislation. This is gonna happen and you guys can either get on board or be swept aside… deal wit it.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:52 pmjoe, how many names does trajie have. He bragged about having a thousand once but he fails to understand that when we see the same dumb routine it is easy to recognize.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:52 pmpoor little jerry, still angry that his brain never recovered from his mother’s drinking while pregnant
must be sad to be so underdeveloped and ignorant
September 15th, 2009 at 12:57 pmYou think speaking to auto workers is apologizing to car dealers. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. News flash bunky, car dealers don’t belong to the UAW.
September 15th, 2009 at 12:57 pmJerry498 says: no intelligence? Shocker LOL!!
September 15th, 2009 at 12:57 pmStupid little twajie doesn’t know that the UAW is made up of American citizens who work for a living and vote. His politicians only answer to corporations.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:02 pmYeah, labor and real Americans support him.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:02 pmJerry498 says:
60 votes for cloture.
51 votes to pass legislation.
Health Care reform coming before Christmas? Priceless…
2010 is gonna be a good year for Democrats thanks to fools like you, Jerry! Thank you!
September 15th, 2009 at 1:03 pmI hope Baucus’s health plan includes mental health coverage for himself because he’s obviously insane if he thinks that this country is in the mood to watch even more taxpayer money being handed over to insurance companies.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:03 pmI’m still laughing that twaj thinks saving the jobs of workers is apologizing to car dealers. Just when you thought they couldn’t get any dumber …
September 15th, 2009 at 1:04 pmDon’t kid youself Jerry –
Unions made the “American Way of Life”.
Only a fool would want to throw it away.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:04 pmhey jerry – what thread are you going to try wrecking next?
or are you all pooped out? one would think after THAT poop-fest!
jerk
September 15th, 2009 at 1:11 pmEinstein, all of the people helped by Health Care Reform are Americans!
And they are going to remember in 2010!
Baucus and Republicans are suckers, anybody home?
September 15th, 2009 at 1:11 pmJerry498 says:
Anybody home in their?
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I just love it when the troll trying to insult someone’s intelligence can’t even handle basic word usage.
It never gets old…
September 15th, 2009 at 1:13 pmmary lacewing-
I find it interesting that Jerry and his ilk are desperate to talk about anything other than the coming Health Care reforms… why do you suppose they are so desperate?
September 15th, 2009 at 1:14 pmbelaccifer lacca says:
… why do you suppose they are so desperate?
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Because that’s what they get paid their shiny nickel for?
September 15th, 2009 at 1:16 pmJerry498 says:
You’re desperation is still showing.
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Over what?
Your stupidity?
September 15th, 2009 at 1:16 pmJerry doesn’t know anything about the auto industry does he. President Obama speaking at a General Motors plant and Jerry thinks he was apologizing to car dealers. Now he thinks he knows which plants “foreign” cars are built at. He’s personally checked the VIN on all all of them. What a moron.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:18 pm…the task at hand is the partisanship of the R’s, and its reactionary incoherence.
you should be prodding your side to man up, bud.
why don’t you do that.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:18 pmReally it’s past time to FLAG THE TROLL.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:19 pmBecause they have taken a stand against it and if it passes it will succeed and it will be the end of them and they know it.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:19 pmpoor little jerry. can’t even think because of all the racism and hate clouding his tiny mind
must be sad to be such an ignorant, bigoted coward
September 15th, 2009 at 1:20 pmbelaccifer lacca, think about the last time the gop fought something big that progressives did pass. Social Security.
How long were they out of power after that? 60 years?
September 15th, 2009 at 1:23 pmHow long were they out of power after that? 60 years?
Exactly.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:24 pmwilson will go down in history for it. As the only person in the history of the United States to be condemned by congress and America at large for his disgraceful behavior in the halls of congress.
There’s something you can be proud of.
oops, that’s gonna leave a mark.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:25 pmThe GOP is running scared because they know that the economy is turning around and that the Health Care Reforms are going forward and both things are not only happening without them but in spite of their efforts…
Sad, scared and stupid is no way for a party to go through life, Jerry.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:26 pmNow the President is speaking to firefighters. Little Jerry is going to tell us how he’s in the pocket of union firefighters. Oh the horror.
As a business owner who hires union workers because they’re the best qualified and keep my customers the happiest might I say “bite me Jerry.”
September 15th, 2009 at 1:26 pmBaucus Bill = Insurance Continues the Raping of America Bill
September 15th, 2009 at 1:27 pmNo Jerry – I said “man up”, not “pitch hissy”.
As long as you refuse to acknowledge the difference, we’ll get nowhere fast.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:28 pmSocial Security would have plenty of money if Republican presidents would stop raiding the funds.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:29 pmNope and with a little help it will remain the most successful program of any kind in the history of the planet.
Just try to threaten older Americans with taking it away from them. I dare you.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:31 pm***
twajie words/phrases:
“shocker”
“much”
“workin’ out for you”
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twajie aliases:
“van jones”
“smudget”
“jerry”
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twajie links here and here.
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 1:31 pmJerry498 says:
Einstein, most of the cars sold during ‘cash for clunkers’ were foreign! Anybody home in their?
Citation, please? I’d like to see if your source excludes foreign-owned car companies with plants in America. Unlike Republicans, the rest of us are also concerned with the interests of American consumers and workers, not just stockholders.
Nice derail, btw.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:35 pmJerry498, your last two posts are perfect examples of why you don’t matter.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:35 pmmethamphetamine abuse is a national tragedy.
in those red states, where those deathbagger hatriots congregate, it’s epidemic.
how many of its victims do we have to see trolling through here, before we encourage our leaders to take decisive action?
September 15th, 2009 at 1:36 pmPoor Twajie and his minions at Troll Central have no place else to play today, since their stalk/hate blog was taken down a second time for violations of the blog’s host’s terms of service.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:36 pmFred says:
wilson will go down in history for it. As the only person in the history of the United States to be condemned by congress and America at large for his disgraceful behavior in the halls of congress.
If he isn’t censured, he’ll only go down as the first to usher in a new era of disrespect and discourtesy in Congress.
Republicans exist only to destroy the functioning of government. Electing them to government positions is like hiring an pyromaniac arsonist to be your night watchman.
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Jerry498 says:
Social Security.
How’s that program workin’ out for ya?
The most successful government program in human history? Great! Thanks for asking!
September 15th, 2009 at 1:37 pm***
twajie words/phrases:
“cuntwell”
(used that one when he was “van jones”)
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twajie link:
here.
Think Progress always defends the Jihadists prisoners. Their goal is to attack and hobble the wart effort.
“wart effort”?
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
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#170,
reggie, glad you’re here.
please spread the word to fred, bruce et al.
that they are not talking to a troll named “jerry”.
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thanks dude!
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 1:41 pmwendell has convinced pelosi, now if she will just stand strong so we can regain some confidence in her.
I don’t think she can turn her back on the right thing this time.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:43 pmjoe cantwell:
Did you notice Twajie boasted about terrorizing think progress on the first link you posted?
September 15th, 2009 at 1:44 pm***
#173,
twajie, do ever not steal from other people’s posts?
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here’s the crack pot link he got it from.
can’t think for yourself, dude?
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 1:44 pmI don’t think the Baucus bill has a hogs chance in hell of getting through. Potter is right. It is a giveaway to the Insurance companies and big Pharma. It does nothing to rein in costs or make Insurance anymore affordable than it is now. If anything, it does quite the opposite.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:45 pmFred’s right. Reconciliation is going to be the route that the Senate has to go. I’ve also noticed that Progressive’s in the Senate led by Schumer and Harkins are finally getting traction on what they want to see. It looks like Tom Harkins is going to take up Teddy’s mantle as the champion for Health Care Reform.
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#176,
reg,
i noticed, :) !
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poor twajie,
such a conceited dickhead.
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no wonder his gf dumped him.
:)
September 15th, 2009 at 1:48 pmJoe Cantwell @ 172
I can’t say for sure which one of the stooges is wearing the “jerry” sock but I can guarantee if it isn’t Twajie, it’s either avid_editor or savage_nation. Between the three of them the sum of their IQs barely reaches three digits.
In case anyone is interested, avid_editor was the third stooge at Think Progress Watch, who recently brought attention to himself by explicitly calling for the assassination of the president.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:54 pmThat was because his “pistol” was tiny and only capable of a single shot.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:56 pm***
#181,
reg,
they all share the same brain.
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i’ve heard of avid_editor.
so has the f.b.i.
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way out on the fringe.
:|
September 15th, 2009 at 2:09 pmSo has the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Anti Defamation League and the Department of Homeland Security.
I have been by a knowledgeable source that they are try to move their stalker/hate blog to a host server in Eastern Europe.
They probably didn’t want to take the chance of being shut down a third time.
September 15th, 2009 at 2:22 pm***
#184,
pass this on to tp.
it always amazes me how they throw out
the welcome mat for him and instead of
just shutting him down.
. … …
September 15th, 2009 at 2:27 pmjoe cantwell:
I have given up on trying to get Think Progress to pay attention, they don’t care.
It’s their loss too, because they are never going to attract any centrist from the other party to blog here.
I have tried to convince a few intelligent and very reasonable bloggers from Little Green Footballs to join me here some evening. Nobody wanted to come because they think there are too many bloggers here that are straight out of Animal House.
September 15th, 2009 at 2:40 pm#186 Reggie says:
The Deltas of “Animal House” were infinitely preferable to the Omegas.
Too many jerks in the Omegas.
September 15th, 2009 at 2:48 pm***
#186,
reg,
you’re kind of like the guy gave the
“bin jadin determined to strike in u.s.”
report to bush. he ignored it too.
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twajie and his terrorists allies are determined
to take down tp and tp just doesn’t seem to care.
. … …
September 15th, 2009 at 2:53 pmThis has been my fear, that all the insurance dollars and hack, fear mongering, talking brainless heads would get people so confused with lies,that they have no true idea what they are protesting on health insurance. It looks like a sh!t bill has been done by the gang of evil. I do believe however, there are still enough people sitting in the house and senate, that have their eye on the ball and are not overly influenced by the dog and pony show thus far put on the the partisan, paid off hacks and politicians. This bill will most likely be a slap in the face of everyone who can’t afford health insurance and don’t get it through their jobs. It wouldn’t be a stretch to see any of us unemployed and no health insurance.
September 15th, 2009 at 2:54 pmSmudget@98
Plagerized from here.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:27 pmI turn around, and Smudget is gone.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:28 pmLunaluz says:
This has been my fear, that all the insurance dollars and hack, fear mongering, talking brainless heads would get people so confused with lies,that they have no true idea what they are protesting on health insurance.
That’s pretty much what happened in 1993. And it’s clearly their tactic this time. The biggest difference between then and now is that private health insurance is essentially creating an economic crisis, rather than merely a moral one.
The Baucus bill needs to be laughed out of Congress immediately if not sooner.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:46 pmkwsventures,
If this is not your company, listed below, then I have a feeling they would like for you to stop using their company name.
Care to comment and tell the truth for a change?
September 15th, 2009 at 4:09 pmI think Baucus is being pennywise and pound foolish. If this bill passes and it fails to contain costs, the Dems will get blamed. The Republicans will then have an excuse to repeal the bill.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:49 pmA very early XMAS present?
September 15th, 2009 at 7:38 pmThank you for your sharing.!
September 16th, 2009 at 11:54 pm