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ACORN announces internal investigation.

By Faiz Shakir on Sep 16th, 2009 at 3:50 pm

ACORN announces internal investigation.

In response to recently released videos of ACORN staff engaging in inappropriate and potentially unlawful activity, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said today that “the conduct you see on those tapes is completely unacceptable.” ACORN President Bertha Lewis released a statement explaining that the advocacy group for low- and moderate-income Americans will now conduct a “thorough review” of the organizations’ operation:

acorn1As a result of the indefensible action of a handful of our employees, I am, in consultation with ACORN’s Executive Committee, immediately ordering a halt to any new intakes into ACORN’s service programs until completion of an independent review. I have also communicated with ACORN’s independent Advisory Council, and they will assist ACORN in naming an independent auditor and investigator to conduct a thorough review of all of the organizations relevant systems and processes. That reviewer, to be named within 48 hours, will make recommendations directly to me and to the full ACORN Board. We enter this process with a commitment that all recommendations will be implemented.

CAP President John Podesta, who also sits on ACORN’s Advisory Council, said, “Accountability starts with knowing all the facts. ACORN, which is doing important work in advocating for lower-income Americans all across this country, is taking an important step today by acknowledging its need for reform and demonstrating its desire to take corrective action.”



173 Responses to “ACORN announces internal investigation.”

  1. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    and tonight…boo-hoo glenda becky will crow to his low income white trash viewers, also known as his “base” how this is a victory for them.


  2. ElBruce says:

    Hey wingnuts, here’s that thread you wanted so bad.


  3. MCMetal says:

    An advocacy group is naming an independent auditor and investigator to review conduct deemed unacceptable by several of their workers ; yet the GOP/Bush backing moronic tools are still up in arms over their behavior , while the garbage Bush administration committed treason by revealing the name of an undercover CIA officer , then claimed they would perform a “self-investigation” , and subsequently did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING………


  4. ralph the wonder llama says:

    ElBruce says:
    Hey wingnuts, here’s that thread you wanted so bad.

    But — but — but — posting a thread like this will only embolden the trolls!


  5. johnny dol1ar says:

    Them wingnutz are already creaming their panties.

    Tammy Glenn Becker is once again to cry his eyes out linking “chicago politics” to the selection of “first dog”

    But when someone points out the Army of Dicks took over the Baboon’s pathetic “a$s root bowel movement” the Baboon still insists it is NOT pathetic fake indignation, but only his gimmick, er…er…er… he loves his country soooooo much.

    *sniff* *sniff* *sniff*


  6. EnnuiDivine says:

    ACORN, by and large, provides a valuable service to communities.

    The activities on those tapes, though, was reprehensible. The people have rightly been fired. An internal investigation is probably the best way to go.

    If Congress wasn’t tackling healthcare, the climate bill, financial regulations, aid for struggling homeowners…

    Then they could waste a week or so looking into ACORN.


  7. Chocolate Jesus says:

    gosh if someone had a hidden camera around when congressmen were interacting with lobbyists I wonder what we’d see/hear..


  8. Campesino says:

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  9. pags2 says:

    The right will never be satisfied until ACORN is disbanded.


  10. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    hey stupid@#5,
    the quote you decided to cherry pick is,
    ” ACORN staff engaging in inappropriate and potentially unlawful activity”

    dumbass with zero credibility


  11. brothejr says:

    It’s funny how the right wingers see these people who shot the videos as heroes, yet Micheal Moore does expose videos on the greed on wall street and in the health care industry and he is considered a villain. Nice double standard huh?


  12. Xisithrus says:

    Hey, since congress is more corrupt than ACORN, how about a thorough and complete review of that?


  13. belaccifer lacca says:

    mj secessionist says:
    In response to recently released videos of ACORN staff engaging in appropriate and potentially unlawful activity,

    Since when is “appropiate” also “unlawful?” Is shak condoning the behavior?

    WOW! What a scoop, mj!

    except it says ‘inappropriate’ up at the top of the page which actually means the exact opposite of appropriate.

    Also, I’m not sure what ‘appropiate’ means but I’ll look around…


  14. okie dokie says:

    I dare them to find even one Acorn staff member
    as corrupt as any of the Republicans holding office.

    And yes, lying counts.


  15. barfly says:

    mj secessionist says:


    This post debunks everything you’ve said to date in regards to acorn, right llama? :)

    Have you hugged your gun today, filty traitor?


  16. Xisithrus says:

    This just shows that dems are much more interested in exposing any wrong doing than the gNOpers that said nothing about the Bush corruption for eight years.


  17. belaccifer lacca says:

    Campesino says:

    Hey, Campy!
    Did you ever find that Special speed limit police force info I asked for?
    Thanks!


  18. MCMetal says:

    Xisithrus says:

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    Hey, since congress is more corrupt than ACORN, how about a thorough and complete review of that?
    September 16th, 2009 at 4:09 pm

    Sure …………Start with Batshitcrazy Bachmann , Uneven Tan Boehner , Racist Ginny Fox(trot) , and the King boys , Peter and Steven ……..


  19. belaccifer lacca says:

    Campesino says:

    See I figure I can ask here because ACORN is apparently the subject of every freakin’ other post on TP and so this post (which is actually on ACORN) has sort of a wide and varied applicability to those of you on the right…


  20. Xisithrus says:

    The birther, deather, liber, lifer, confirmers are reactionaries and will never ever be satisfied about anything until we all look, talk, act, dress, pray, walk, run, drive, eat, work and think EXACTLY the same.

    Hey, thats Kim Jong Communism!


  21. joe cantwell says:

  22. fletc3her says:

    It seems like ACORN members are falling prey to Borat style practical jokes. That’s a shame, but it does make you wonder how many times the right wing operatives attempted contact before they found someone to dupe.


  23. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    It’s such a shame in this country that boa-collar criminals still do not have the same tax-evasion rights as white-collar criminals.


  24. Xisithrus says:

    But dont ever audit the FED, no sir, cant do that, no complete and thorough anything there.


  25. Campesino says:

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  26. happycozy says:

    I would like to know how many ACORN offices this documentary “filmmaker” visited. If he tried this prostitution sting at a hundred ACORN offices, and employees from four offices agreed to engage in illegal activities, there’s a case to be made that this isn’t a systemic problem of corruption at ACORN. I know an office in PA contacted the police after this “filmmaker” approached them about setting up a prostitution ring–but the MSM never talks about that story. Something tells me that just like with the questionable editing in these videos, we’ll never know the full story.


  27. lefty says:

    Too little too late, a-holes. You’ve embarrassed us and that means you’re getting thrown under the bus. We’re not conservatives, making excuses and blaming the media. I’m sorry that you became one of many rightwing masturbatory fetishes but the behavior displayed in the videos is absolutely reprehensible.

    We don’t tolerate and defend trash just because they’re “on our side” like the rightwing does. Be good or be gone!


  28. Xisithrus says:

    It’s time to move foreward!” by obama

    Says the look backer


  29. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    #20,

    secessionist means “withdrawing”.

    but you never go anywhere.

    *

    do you?

    :)


  30. Sandoz76 says:

    Its fine, its a big organization and they’ll be better for it. This ability to look at yourself honestly and improve accordingly is something anathema to conservatism. They don’t understand.


  31. belaccifer lacca says:

    “‘Foreward! by obama’”

    Is there a new book on this coming out?


  32. Campesino says:

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  33. Xisithrus says:

    It’s funny how the left wingers see these people who shot the videos as villains, yet Micheal Moore does expose videos on the greed on wall street and in the health care industry and he is considered a hero.

    I camm projectionism. Please dont put your lipstick on others, it makes you look ugly and others pretty.


  34. Xisithrus says:

    *I call projectionism


  35. busav8or says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  36. Xisithrus says:

    So when is Campesino going to go after Rove for caging votes?

    I bet the RNC wont do that.


  37. MCMetal says:

    Campesino says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    September 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    There……..I fixed your entire horseshit post for you ….

    You’re quite welcome……….Tool


  38. Xisithrus says:

    Boy, you liberals really get nasty when you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar! BTW- there are probably a LOT more of you wearing panties to get wadded up than we “neo-cons”! PS- I haven’t hugged my gun today, but I did get a good feel when I slipped it in my pocket! Have a nice day!

    Wow, the projectionists or what (R) Scanlon called ‘wackos’ are out in force.


  39. Campesino says:

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  40. tombaker says:

    I’m sure they can investigate, re-regulate, and redeem themselves just as well, if not better, than the typical organ of private enterprise.

    Good for them, for doing more than the GOP does about cleaning up their own backyard, even if it did take an embarrassing episode to provide the impetus.


  41. Xisithrus says:

    Umm, the neo-cons were originally leftist until the dems kicked them to the curb for the trashmen to pick up.

    Oh, sorry, didnt mean to insult you,


  42. busav8or says:

    Wow, the projectionists or what (R) Scanlon called ‘wackos’ are out in force.

    See what I mean?


  43. tombaker says:

    oh – the druggies are here again.

    great, i’d been pining for some Beavis & Butthead reruns.

    neat.


  44. joe cantwell says:

    **

    #28,

    “these people”?

    no one knows their names.

    interesting.

    :)

    btw, when does their “documentary”

    hit the theaters?

    :)


  45. Xisithrus says:

    Well, you know Turbotax is REALLY hard!

    Well, if you insist.


  46. lefty says:

    Right. That’s why Charlie Rangel got kicked out as committee chairman when all his tax fraud issues came to light! Oh, wait….

    I don’t like Rangel either. So trash him all you want. Nice try though. As you can see, I have actual standards. Try it sometime.


  47. Xisithrus says:

    See what I mean?

    No. Google it, Scanlon called you wackos, not me.


  48. MCMetal says:

    Campesino says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    Well, you know Turbotax is REALLY hard!

    September 16th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    It’s a lot easier than telling the truth about WMD’s ; or even finding them……..Apparently………..


  49. Xisithrus says:

    I said your projecting you imgaination on others.


  50. Campesino says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  51. Xisithrus says:

    And lets investigate that anorexic looking woMANs voter registration too!


  52. MCMetal says:

    busav8or says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    PS- I haven’t hugged my gun today, but I did get a good feel when I slipped it in my pocket! Have a nice day!

    September 16th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

    You get a thrill from feeling up your pathetic unit , which resembles a shortened and unsharpened No#2 pencil ?

    Knock yourself out , sport………….


  53. Xisithrus says:

    If you watched Fox News you would be more informed misinformed….

    Floated Your Tub, your welcome!


  54. MCMetal says:

    mj secessionist says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    If you watched Fox News you would be more informed….

    September 16th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
    ——————————————————————————–

    Yeah…………….About falafels ………And Loofahs , anyway


  55. Campesino says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  56. Xisithrus says:

    which resembles a shortened and unsharpened No#2 pencil ?

    Wahhhh Wahhhh See What I Mean!?! Wahhhh

    Bwah


  57. busav8or says:

    I said your projecting you imgaination on others.

    “I said you’re projecting your imagination on others.”

    There, I fixed YOUR post. At least that’s what I think it was meant to say!


  58. Xisithrus says:

    Since the trollops want to go the guilt by non-association route:

    Republican aide Alan David Berlin was arrested on charges that he wanted to engage in sex acts with a 15-year-old boy while dressed in a panda costume.

    So, how many of you (R)Foley lovers have Panda suits hidden in your closets?


  59. busav8or says:

    Hey, anybody know where I can get some money to start me a ho house?


  60. Xisithrus says:

    There, I fixed YOUR post. At least that’s what I think it was meant to say!

    Jeenyus! LMAO


  61. Xisithrus says:

    Hey, anybody know where I can get some money to start me a ho house?

    Yes, over there, that guy wearing the Diaper…Vitter or that other guy over there on the boat Cunningham.


  62. Xisithrus says:

    Republican news producer Aaron Bruns was arrested on charges of possessing child pornography.

    Speaking of FOX, how is this employee doing?


  63. busav8or says:

    Jeenyus!

    You’ll enjoy this internet thing a lot more once you learn to spell! LOL, LMAO, BG. Got any emoticons you could post?


  64. STORM says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  65. Xisithrus says:

    Got any emoticons you could post?

    Sure here is what I call a Repiggy ]8@P


  66. MCMetal says:

    busav8or says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    Hey, anybody know where I can get some money to start me a ho house?
    September 16th, 2009 at 4:35 pm ——————————————————————————–

    Petition the “C Street” residents for a donation , tool…..

    If that fails , give David Vitter a call……..


  67. Campesino says:

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  68. ElBruce says:

    Sorry to spam, but I feel the need to repeat a previous comment here.

    Let’s go over what we know so far. After massive amounts of investigations funded by the right wing, this is what has been able to be discovered about ACORN:

    1. ACORN has been attacked for taking the step of identifying likely fraudulent voter registration cards to their state elections boards. Other voter registration groups, which do not take this step, were not attacked because the number of their fraudulent registrations remains unknown.

    2. ACORN has been cheated by some of their workers, who filled in fraudulent voter registration cards instead of finding new voters.

    3. After a massive search by private investigators to find undocumented immigrants registered by ACORN, two possibilities were identified; both were harrassed by the P.I., and it later turned out that they were both U.S. citizens anyways.

    4. After a massive hidden-camera sting operation searching for corrupt ACORN employees, a few were found who were willing to give advice for how to fill out a housing form even though the applicants engaged in illegal activities irrelevant to whether they needed housing assistance to begin with.

    5. Due to unfounded allegations by wingnuts, Congress decided to make sure ACORN doesn’t get funding. Not that had they ever received federal funding anyway. Note that this does not count as illegal or questionable activity by ACORN, but rather merely as a marker of success of the wingnut slander against them.

    In all of these examples (and probably more I can’t think of) ACORN as a whole was the victim. As an organization, they do good work for communities across America. The attempts to smear them have resulted in no evidence whatsoever that they are doing anything illegal.

    Here’s an analogy, though. Recently a patron of McDonald’s received a gun and drugs at their drive through, in addition to their regular order. Does that mean that McDonald’s is a gun-running drug-pushing organization? To use your “ACORN logic,” yes, and McDonald’s should be federally investigated because of this event. But a normally intelligent person would point out that one employee willing to commit a crime does not discredit the organization they work for.

    … or at least, not when that’s a private company, as opposed than a non-profit organization that helps underserved communities, right?

    When looking at whether an organization is acting as a criminal enterprise, it doesn’t matter if I find one worker who cheated. I could find that in any company or organization, if I looked as hard as the wingnuts are looking at ACORN, and you know it. What matters is the established practices of the organization as a whole.


  69. ElBruce says:

    Campesino says:

    BREAKING: More ACORN Videos To Be Revealed

    You mean like the parts that were edited out of the first ones? Looking forward to it.


  70. Xisithrus says:

    Facts?

    Republican anti-abortion activist
    Neal Horsley admitted to having
    sex with a mule

    Now that is a fact and why I would never be a republican panda costume wearing mule molesting diaper wearer.

    BTW, I heard (R) Nunn got arrested for murder


  71. belaccifer lacca says:

    Good move!! If facts don’t support you, just ignore them

    Yeah, like that special speed limit police force that Nixon created when the national speed limit was enacted!

    Wait… what?


  72. MCMetal says:

    Campesino says:

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    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33581

    September 16th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
    ——————————————————————————–

    Nice link there , twit ; the headline on that 4th rate site proudly exclaims Home Of The Conservative Underground .

    Their credibility is enormous………You’re a jackass


  73. STORM says:

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  74. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    STORM says:

    I thought the ACORN thing was a right wing racism?

    September 16th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
    ___________

    It is. Your blind squirrels finally found a nut, that’s all. Be sure to milk it for all you can.


  75. Xisithrus says:

    Hey, anybody know where I can get some money to start me a ho house?/blockquote>

    Arent you in a house?


  76. MCMetal says:

    Campesino says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    lefty says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    Right. That’s why Charlie Rangel got kicked out as committee chairman when all his tax fraud issues came to light! Oh, wait….

    I don’t like Rangel either. So trash him all you want. Nice try though. As you can see, I have actual standards. Try it sometime.

    =====================================================

    Good move!! If facts don’t support you, just ignore them

    September 16th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    ——————————————————————————–

    As opposed to lying outright in order to defend them like you and your retarded ilk constantly do for the garbage GOP ?


  77. Xisithrus says:

    Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.

    Hey, Im kinda [sp?] liking this guilt by association thing, yall wanna play some more?


  78. busav8or says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  79. Xisithrus says:

    Better GBAs please.


  80. Xisithrus says:

    Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

    OMG all you republicans are sick!

    Still wanna play GBA?


  81. MCMetal says:

    mary jane says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    Attack messenger much?

    September 16th, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    Defend morons much ? My condolences …….


  82. busav8or says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  83. Xisithrus says:

    Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls

    Man, I will never be able to be a ]8@P repiggy, I simply am not nearly perverted and sick enough.


  84. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    i thought there’d

    be more trolls.

    **

    not newsworthy?

    **

    i guess it’s like the march;

    a lot of people said they’d go

    but didn’t.

    :)


  85. Xisithrus says:

    Yeah, but I can’t find anybody who will pay me for sex!

    Because your party members like 5 year olds better.

    Still wanna play the stoopid game of Guilt By Association?


  86. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    busav8or says:

    Boy, you liberals really get nasty when you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar!

    September 16th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
    ___________

    Um, how is our hand in the cookie jar, exactly?

    Because an organization that does some good work in urban communities failed to properly train their staff in how to deal with a bunch of Jackass-style pranksters?

    What does that have to do with liberals?


  87. misscoleopteramolly says:

    Campesino says
    September 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    It’s funny how the left wingers see these people who shot the videos as villains, yet Micheal Moore does expose videos on the greed on wall street and in the health care industry and he is considered a hero. Nice double standard huh?

    Fixed that for you
    ___________________________________________________________

    Except that I don’t remember Michael Moore claiming to be something or someone he wasn’t in any of his interviews in any of his documentaries (yes, he really is a lifetime member of the NRA, and yes, he really does look like a disheveled blue-collar worker).

    I guess by your logic, only people pretending to be something they aren’t are heroes?


  88. Xisithrus says:

    By our visitors logic it seems they think that anyone not even remotely associatied with some group is guilty of that groups doings because of their chosen political ideology.

    Now, I can keep playing this really stupid game, but I think you guys are better than that and this GBA doesnt help solve problems but works to obfuscate them.

    I am glad that ACORN is being looked into, now will you do the same so we can help make our politicians more honest for the good of the nation?


  89. busav8or says:

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  90. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Campesino says:

    It’s funny how the left wingers see these people who shot the videos as villains, yet Micheal Moore does expose videos on the greed on wall street and in the health care industry and he is considered a hero. Nice double standard huh?

    September 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
    ____________

    It’s not a double standard at all.

    When Michael Moore exposes greed and corruption in the health care industry and Wall Street, he’s highlighting a REAL THING. An ACTUAL problem that exists here in the real world. This greed and corruption costs ordinary people their health, their savings, and their livelihoods, every day. That corruption is real, and Moore just shows what’s happening in reality.

    When these conservapunks exposed ACORN’s “corruption,” they had to make it up. It’s all based on a false premise. There’s no proof that ACORN staff routinely assist people they know to be criminals with tax evasion. Only that a handful of well-meaning individuals didn’t know what to do in a ridiculous, completely contrived situation. They’re the victims, not the culprits.


  91. busav8or says:

    I am glad that ACORN is being looked into, now will you do the same so we can help make our politicians more honest for the good of the nation?

    Agreed! Damn, that hurt!!!


  92. Xisithrus says:

    Ridiculous statement. What party am I a member of, BTW? Who’s playing “GBA” now? Uh oh, Gen Beck’s on…gotta go! Have a nice day!

    It was intentionally ridiculous. Just as me putting you into a party of my choosing.

    BTW Beck is about as much of an irritant as baby powder. Enjoy watchig the self professed rodeo clown play you.


  93. Xisithrus says:

    Agreed! Damn, that hurt!!!

    Not to worry Limbaugh has some pain killers for sale

    /snark


  94. mary lacewing says:

    chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Because an organization that does some good work in urban communities failed to properly train their staff in how to deal with a bunch of Jackass-style pranksters?

    What does that have to do with liberals?

    ——————————

    Now, now chiroptera toasterhead, you know the answer to that!

    I mean when was the last time you heard of a conservative organization doing any ‘good work’ in urban communities?


  95. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    mary lacewing says:

    I mean when was the last time you heard of a conservative organization doing any ‘good work’ in urban communities?

    September 16th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
    ____________

    Does the ethnic cleansing of New Orleans count?


  96. Just Hormiga says:

    Republicans are so desperate and determined to destroy ACORN. IMO – they know that Americans who are registered to vote through ACORN will not vote Republican. ACORN has helped over 900,000 Americans register to vote between 2004 and 2008.

    Shame on the rightwingnut loon O’Keefe for attempting to setup ACORN.


  97. tombaker says:

    The pups maul the squirrel carcass,

    as though they’d downed a bison.

    Silly pups.


  98. ElBruce says:

    Xisithrus says:

    Republican anti-abortion activist
    Neal Horsley admitted to having
    sex with a mule

    Citation.


  99. STORM says:

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  100. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    STORM says:

    ACORN is a glimpse at what Obamas vision for the “New America” is.

    September 16th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
    ___________

    And you’re basing this on what evidence?


  101. misscoleopteramolly says:

    Years ago, a local television station did a story on a local grocery store — reporting how they were repackaging meat and putting new “sell by” dates on it. This created shockwaves through the community, the grocery store lost a lot of business, the manager of the meat department in that particular store was fired, and the station’s ratings went through the roof as they milked the story for everything they could.

    How was the story obtained? The station employed a number of people to get a job at any of the chain’s stores and to film activities there covertly, figuring that something would turn up they could exploit. And sure enough, something did at one of the stores. A meat manager, concerned that the amount of meat going past the “sell by” date was making him look bad, made some decisions that not only violated store policies, they were illegal. He hadn’t been doing it long, and probably wouldn’t have been able to get away with it much longer because this chain had their own internal policy auditors.

    After the dust settled, people looked at the situation more rationally — especially the method the station used to go trolling for a scandal to report. While there was no excusing what the meat manager did, and he was rightly fired, most of us tried to imagine how we would feel if one of our co-workers had a hidden camera and had infiltrated our workplace. Could we honestly say that everything that was done or said behind the scenes at our workplaces would be something we would be proud to have shown on the evening news?

    I kind of feel the same way about the ACORN story. Yes, an employee got caught advising a couple of people on how to rip off the system and conduct illegal activities. This employee was deservedly fired. But like the grocery store story, this was not representative of ACORN policies, and the covert operatives had to cast a wide net to catch someone (how many offices did they have to visit to find what they wanted?).

    Let’s try to keep things in perspective. This is more about an effort to discredit ACORN than it is about ACORN trying to encourage prostitution and child sex. Just like the meat repackaging situation was more about a television news program looking for a juicy story to boost ratings than it was about repackaged meat.


  102. Campesino says:

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  103. misscoleopteramolly says:

    STORM says
    September 16th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    ACORN is a glimpse at what Obamas vision for the “New America” is.
    ___________________________________________________________

    I assume you can provide a link to President Obama saying this?


  104. Campesino says:

    Hey, where’s EugeneDebutante? He’s usually around here typing dirty words in CAPITAL LETTERS


  105. STORM says:

    misscoleopteramolly says:

    Yes, an employee got caught advising a couple of people on how to rip off the system and conduct illegal activities.

    Would you feel the same way if this were done to a right wing group?


  106. tombaker says:

    Um, campy -

    he said something about not being interested in watching pups maul a dead squirrel.


  107. tombaker says:

    but i understand you and stormy’s side, too.

    when you’re starving in the wilderness,

    even a raisin

    can seem like a feast.


  108. Campesino says:

    Oh, and here’s something else you guys probably want to talk about either

    http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/15/taking_liberties/entry5314040.shtml

    Obama Admin: Cap And Trade Could Cost Families $1,761 A Year

    The Obama administration has privately concluded that a cap and trade law would cost American taxpayers up to $200 billion a year, the equivalent of hiking personal income taxes by about 15 percent.

    A previously unreleased analysis prepared by the U.S. Department of Treasury says the total in new taxes would be between $100 billion to $200 billion a year. At the upper end of the administration’s estimate, the cost per American household would be an extra $1,761 a year.

    A second memorandum, which was prepared for Obama’s transition team after the November election, says this about climate change policies: “Economic costs will likely be on the order of 1 percent of GDP, making them equal in scale to all existing environmental regulation.”


  109. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    STORM says:

    Would you feel the same way if this were done to a right wing group?

    September 16th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
    _____________

    Sure, I would. That is, if there were any reputable right-wing groups that actually did community service, like ACORN. I’d be just as skeptical if their staffers got the Borat treatment like in these videos.


  110. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Campesino says:

    Oh, and here’s something else you guys probably want to talk about either

    Obama Admin: Cap And Trade Could Cost Families $1,761 A Year

    September 16th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
    ____________

    So?

    Protecting the planet for my children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren is well worth $200/month to me.


  111. tombaker says:

    Campy, my friend,

    your’e really good at tracking down those squirrels!

    i bet you could keep 1 or 2 of the Huckabee family alive for weeks in a crisis setting.


  112. tombaker says:

    if you and storm could somehow team up,

    you might well save all the Huckabees,

    AND THE WORLD!


  113. STORM says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  114. belaccifer lacca says:

    Oh, and in 1974 when the speed limit was changed, we’d had traffic cops for quite a while, and we didn’t have to put a provision in the bill to create them.

    Ahh, I see now… sorta like these cops we’ve had for a while now?

    The Dept. of Justice and the Dept. of Health and Human Services?

    http://www.stopmedicarefraud.gov/

    Why did we need new cops again??? You are SO, SO much better at analogies, (and also so big and strong!)
    I need your help to parse this…


  115. gummble-bee-itch says:

    watchyoursteptheresapuddleofpee: But, we’re just racist!

    Well, it’s true that you are, personally. And you’re an idiot. I’d be a little surprised if Campesino wants to be your BFF, though.


  116. USCKitty says:

    Let’s not forget the Democrats screwing over Acorn just as they did MoveOn at the behest of Republicans, thinking that surely the Republicans will love them for it.

    Contrast that to the House vote on Joe Wilson…seven out of the House Republicans voted yes.

    More signs of weakness in the name of bipartisanship…


  117. tombaker says:

    unintentionally racist, perhaps.

    but i definitely don’t see the kind of skill and organization that real racists bring to the game.

    someday maybe, but i understand you’re just pups for now, and you’re doing a danged good job of working your way up!!


  118. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    misscoleopteramolly says:

    Let’s try to keep things in perspective. This is more about an effort to discredit ACORN than it is about ACORN trying to encourage prostitution and child sex. Just like the meat repackaging situation was more about a television news program looking for a juicy story to boost ratings than it was about repackaged meat.

    September 16th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
    _____________

    Exactly.

    I’m also reminded of the Brazilian TV producer who hired assassins to kill people so he could “expose them” on his crime show


  119. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    STORM says:

    But, we’re just racist!

    September 16th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
    __________

    Yeah, we knew tht already.


  120. STORM says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  121. Reggie says:

    106

    Republican anti-abortion activist
    Neal Horsley admitted to having
    sex with a mule

    Don’t criticize this fine outstanding God fearing Christian, he knew it was a sin to have sex with mules.
    He probably couldn’t help himself because the devil made him do it.


    “I’ve [screwed] a watermelon,” he says. And that’s just for starters.
    He’s had sex with just about everything it’s physically possible to have sex with, and some that isn’t.
    The bottom line is, I never treated it as if it were NOT a sin.”

    You have got to love these family values wing nuts.


  122. Xisithrus says:

    Campesino says: Oh, and here’s something else you guys probably want to talk about either

    Well, the deficit jumped by 4.79 trillion in eight years under Dubya. Lets divide that by 300 million and see what the generational theft of that is shall we?

    Thats about 15, 966 dollars per person.

    Care to add in the 13 trillion in loans and guarantees to the finacial system?


  123. Xisithrus says:

    What does melanin have to do with anything STORMY?


  124. gummble-bee-itch says:

    peepuddle: how much melanin do you have?

    It’s roughly equivalent to the number of functioning brain cells you can claim.


  125. Xisithrus says:

    Pigment, STORM, doesnt have any color its that it absorbs EM waves giving the illusion of color. Our eyes ’see’ only three ‘colors’ and they are, as interpreted by our minds and defined by the words, red green and blue.


  126. Xisithrus says:

    And really, I wouldnt call you racist, STORM, your just color ignorant.


  127. Reggie says:

    how much melanin do you have?

    How many chromosomes do you have?

    From reading your troll droppings my guess is 21.


  128. STORM says:

    gummble-bee-itch says:

    peepuddle: how much melanin do you have?

    It’s roughly equivalent to the number of functioning brain cells you can claim.

    So your black?


  129. gummble-bee-itch says:

    eejit: So your black?

    My black what?

    No, dopey. According to the formula above, I must be an albino.


  130. Rich H says:

    To all you effin trolls:

    What the f is wrong with you people? Upset about someone giving tax advice? That’s right, you don’t think anyone should be paying taxes.

    What a bunch of LOSERS!. I mean it’s not like we had a male prostitute sneaking into the white house to service somebody. Gee, I wonder who it was. Karl, George?


  131. STORM says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  132. zuch says:

    Yes, indeed. We have to ensure that all ACORN staff, from top to bottom, are properly trained to recognise and kick out RW “entrapment”/”sting” provocateurs … and hopefully sneer at them on their way out.

    Say, speaking of terminating the employment of dupes and suckers, should we fire this guy?

    Cheers,


  133. Tim43 says:

    yeah “internal investigation”???

    Like that will produce anything valuable. ACORN IS A CORRUPT ORGANIZATION FROM THE TOP DOWN. Their so called internal investigation will be nothing more than a paper shredding project to destroy any and all evidence.

    And who will they be covering for when destroying evidence? Obama himself, that is who. Remember, he was a lawyer for the organization and has very close ties with them today.


  134. jerseygirl says:

    A review of federal records shows that ACORN affiliates have received at least $31 million in direct federal funding from American taxpayers over the past 10 years and millions more indirectly through state & local agencies that receive federal block grants. Federal Register records show that ACORN secured the $31 million to fund affiliates in eleven different states through 54 individual federal grants.

    17 of those 54 federal grants went to ACORN causes in Philadelphia, PA. The others went to ACORN efforts in Washington, D.C. Dallas, St. Paul, Alburquerque, New Orleans, Houston, Chiccago, Brooklyn and Little Rock.

    No more money to ACORN until they open their books – let’s see how many sub-prime loans were approved based on ACORN’s “advisors”. These loans brought down the financial system and caused the crisis that we have today.

    I got your back tim43, bro


  135. conservative guy says:

    ACORN is a criminal group


  136. tombaker says:

    cg

    you spelled ENRON incorrectly.


  137. Rich H says:

    jerseygirl,

    Got any links to back your nonsense up? You cg and tim make a nice little group, maybe you can all go to the next teaparty together.


  138. tombaker says:

    good thing you guys are keeping a lid on the small-time stuff,

    so your puppetmasters can get away with crimes involving 8 more decimal places and piles of dead people.

    way to Barney Fife it, Tim, Jersey, and CG.

    you’re heroes,
    to Dick.


  139. ElBruce says:

    Tim43 says:

    Like that will produce anything valuable. ACORN IS A CORRUPT ORGANIZATION FROM THE TOP DOWN.

    No evidence exists for this claim. During the election, massive scrutiny was brought to bear on ACORN. Any wrongdoing by temp canvassers resulted in their firing and in the ballots they collected being bundled seperately so that the elections board could investigate them easier. As soon as this information came to light, the employees involved were fired. Every time something has been found wrong in ACORN, they’ve fixed it.

    Would that every organization and corporation be so thoroughly examined, and act so responsibly in return.

    .

    jerseygirl says:

    A review of federal records…

    Please cite the source of your information or assume it will be ignored.

    .

    conservative guy says:

    ACORN is a criminal group

    Your mom creatively fills out housing assistance applications.


  140. dbadass says:

    Spector is a criminal organization…Hi conservative guy!


  141. joe cantwell says:

  142. jerseygirl says:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/special-editorial-reports/ACORN-got-53-million-in-federal-funds-since-94-now-eligible-for-up-to-8-billion-more-44406217.html

    copy and paste this into your browser and link onto the spreadsheet. it’s actuually $54 million since 1994.

    you guys should run from this story. you ain’t got a leg to stand on. this administration will prove to be the most corrupt, inept, inexperienced bunch of amateurs to ever occupy the white house. ACORN is in bed with obama and it will come out definitely as more and more of these videos come out! No evidence indeed!!! Tim43 – you’re a racist!!


  143. mclib says:

    LTRFTC, (Long Time Reader First Time Commenter), Turns out this whole thing was just a way to Punk Fixed News. Via CrooksandLiars The Acron worker knew she was being played, so she decided to go full Colbert on these pukes.


  144. mclib says:

    Looks Like Joe Cantwell scooped me! (149)


  145. bluesunflower says:

    Campesino says:
    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.

    ——————————————————————————–

    The hits just keep coming

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33581

    BREAKING: More ACORN Videos To Be Revealed

    The video should break around 9 p.m. EST.

    Yawn. It’s 10:30 EST already.



  146. Tim43 says:

    Yeah right. There should be a federal investigation kicked off by Eric Holder.

    But I won’t hold my breath.


  147. ElBruce says:

    Tim43 says:

    There should be a federal investigation kicked off by Eric Holder.

    Based on what evidence?

    And don’t you think maybe he should do something about torture first?


  148. Tim43 says:

    Amazing that the progressive liberals on this board are actually defending the corrupt ACORN. WOW, it is all coming clear now and I can now see why you voted for obama.

    I thought that you folks would at least have a slight amount of concern for the tax payers and maybe even some outrage at that corruption. But instead, you lash out at the real hero’s in this case, the independent videographer and breitbart.

    I gave you too much credit and now realize my error in judgement.


  149. USCKitty says:

    Tim43, you have no credibility here, especially with your statements about torture. And while we’re talking about ACORN, let’s talk election fraud and stealing the votes on the GOP side.


  150. USCKitty says:

    and looks like your hero was punked as well…so much for investigative journalism…


  151. Tim43 says:

    USCKitty says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    Tim43, you have no credibility here, especially with your statements about torture. And while we’re talking about ACORN, let’s talk election fraud and stealing the votes on the GOP side.

    ****************************************************

    My statement about torture? What are you talking about? Did you even read my posts? Please show me where I said anything about torture.


  152. USCKitty says:

    sorry in the past…I seem to remember it was you who told a heartwarming tale from your childhood…


  153. USCKitty says:

    but anyways, tim, I digress…but I think your mistake was expecting us to believe you had credibility, much as if I were to assume I would have any in a right-wing site if I had constantly trolled as well…


  154. Tim43 says:

    elbruce…

    Are you serious? You are asking me for evidence? Have you read anything outside of TP and Media Matters?

    One simply needs to open google and type in “Acorn Corruption” you will be imediately directed to the latest and greatest.

    I tried to post some links on TP but for some reason they are censoring the truth. You decide why TP won’t let you see ALL the news.


  155. Tim43 says:

    USCKitty says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    but anyways, tim, I digress…but I think your mistake was expecting us to believe you had credibility, much as if I were to assume I would have any in a right-wing site if I had constantly trolled as well…

    Let me fill you in on something kitty. I fully expect that the progressive liberals on this board will blind themselves to the truth. Therefore, I do not seek credibility from people who blind themselves because of ideology because it doesn’t mean squat.

    For those of you that are on the fence about the political views that you hold, as I was in my younger days, then you will eventually see what I, and many others see. And, that is.. BOTH parties, Republican and Democrat are absolutely corrupt.

    The best thing that we, the American citizens, can do is push for smaller government. Less government means less chance for waste and corruption.

    But I fully expect that you folks will refuse to see it that way and place all your hope and faith in bigger government brought to you by obama and the democrats. Good luck with that.


  156. USCKitty says:

    There is one thing I agree with you and it is that both parties are corrupt…well said…

    I think however that the problem is the influence that corporations and big business have on our politicians. It’s just one party doesn’t make any pretensions about who they support while the other pretends to be on the side of the people, but when we aren’t looking…


  157. pags2 says:

    Tim43 says:
    The best thing that we, the American citizens, can do is push for smaller government. Less government means less chance for waste and corruption.

    We tried that along with Reaganomics and that is how we got into this economic mess. Less government allowed Madoff to keep doing his Ponzi scheme, contaminated food, drugs that were approved and found to be dangerous after the fact, etc. The problem isn’t the size of the government, but rather it is which special interests are getting their way. Government is the problem when it fails to take action or turns a blind eye to abuses.


  158. tombaker says:

    don’t look over your shoulder, timmeh…

    at the multi-trillion dollar ripoff,

    you’ve caught hold of a q-tip shoplifter at the Rite-Aid!!!

    god bless all the special heroes!


  159. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Tim43 says:

    One simply needs to open google and type in “Acorn Corruption” you will be imediately directed to the latest and greatest.

    September 17th, 2009 at 12:17 am
    _____________

    Ahh, yes. The “Google it” defense. That’s a good one. If it’s on Google, it must be true. Which is why I now believe JFK was assassinated by crop circles and the planet Nibiru.

    The reason you can’t post proof of top-down corruption at ACORN is because you don’t have any. These wanna-be Borat videos are not proof of corruption. They’re just proof that ACORN needs to work on its counter-punking technique.


  160. jerseygirl says:

    tim43 – forget it, don’t waste your time – you can’t talk reason. let’s just have ACORN open their books and we can all put this to rest. i got your back, bro


  161. ElBruce says:

    Tim43 says:

    Amazing that the progressive liberals on this board are actually defending the corrupt ACORN.

    I’d never heard of them until wingnuts started howling during the campaign. If it weren’t for y’all, I wouldn’t care about them one bit.

    Upon looking into the evidence the wingnut complaints were based on, I found that there wasn’t any. Not only that, but there’s no reason to think that ACORN is an enemy of the right wing. Obama only worked with them very briefly, many years ago; if you’re going to go after former employers, you’d be better to target the University of Chicago, which he worked at more recently and for much longer. ACORN is also officially a non-partisan organization, and have rules in place to enforce that. So there’s no reason whatsoever for right-wingers to target them to begin with, unless you believe that all low-income people are left-wing, in which case, you’re declaring class war.

    Are you declaring class war?

    .

    Tim43 says:

    One simply needs to open google and type in “Acorn Corruption” you will be imediately directed to the latest and greatest.

    I’ve reviewed those claims. There is no evidence whatsoever of organizational corruption in ACORN. Just a lot of people saying there is. There’s a difference between those two things.

    If you look at any large organization closely enough, with undercover sting operations and background research, you’ll find some amount of individual corruption. You know that to be a fact. How the organization responds to such information tells you whether there is any organizational corruption. ACORN has always responded responsibly.

    However, for wingnuts, “evidence” means something different than from those of us whose brains function properly. If one wingnut makes a claim, and then a second wingnut makes the same claim, the first wingnut will use the second wingnut’s claim as “proof” of his. Once you’re all chattering in unison, you create for each other the illusion of logical support, even though no facts back up any of the claims made.

    .

    Tim43 says:

    I tried to post some links on TP but for some reason they are censoring the truth. You decide why TP won’t let you see ALL the news.

    Don’t blame TP for your failure to operate the web form. Also, it’s not like anybody keeps this as their home page and doesn’t know how to find the rest of the Internet. If you think that’s the case, then I guess that must be the case for you.

    .

    Tim43 says:

    The best thing that we, the American citizens, can do is push for smaller government. Less government means less chance for waste and corruption.

    Ergo, there is zero waste and corruption in Somalia. I invite you to move there and enjoy your paradise.

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    Because there isn’t any accountability from the top down.

    Of course there is. Anybody who violated their publicly known rules has been promptly fired. They even got rid of their CEO just because her brother had embezzled from them decades ago. That was a known fact and he was making restitution, but they decided to can her just to make sure you lot didn’t have anything more to whine about.

    How do you define “accountability?”

    Or do you even understand what “definitions” are? I suspect that all you understood when you wrote that is that “accountability” is a positive thing of some sort, and you don’t like ACORN, so you said they don’t have it. I find such an approach to be typical of wingnut dialectic: “good thing has good thing; bad thing has bad thing; bad thing doesn’t have good thing,” etc. It only goes to support my general suspicion that wingnuts’ brains don’t work in quite a fashion that could be described as “sentient.”

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    And covering their tracks better.

    Absolutely not. Your suggestion that they hide evidence of wrongdoing would be wrong. They should continue as they have, making any problems public and holding any employees who engage in wrongdoing accountable.

    Leave it to a right-winger to propose a cover-up…


  162. ElBruce says:

    Tracy__5 says:

    So what is new?….nothing here

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/pelosi_clueless_about_cash_cut_off_ZHSkPZ2Mbhr5phoqht5GHN

    This article demonstrates that ACORN is not a partisan organization. If it were at all important to Democrats, then Pelosi would have known about the cut-off funding before a NYPost reporter got to her.

    You’re barking up the wrong tree, as usual.


  163. jerseygirl says:

    Tracy_5: I applaud your persistence and dogged pursuit at exposing the criminal enterprise that is ACORN. However, do not waste your time – you are not dealing with rational people. Once again – I call upon ACORN to open their books – not to someone that they appoint – but to an INDEPENDANT auditor. I guarantee that Obama’s fingerprints are all over this operation.

    P.S. Check out post #142 – has anyone gone to the link showing how ACORN has received $54 million since 1994 Didn’t think so. Oh yeah, Tracy – you’re a Racist!!


  164. jerseygirl says:

    Tracy_5: Obama doesn’t have to expose himself – just follow the money. Connect the dots. Here’s a question – how did Obama land in Chicago to begin with? How did he ever come in contact with Ayres? Are we really supposed to believe that Obama did not realize that the esteemed Rev. Wright was a racist, anti american, hate spewing demogogue? After twenty years in that “church”? And as a former community organizer, trainer and legal advisor to ACORN that he is now completely disconnected from them? Follow the money, connect the dots – open the ACORN books. I’ll bet no one on this site wants that to happen.


  165. jerseygirl says:

    This just in – House Votes to Defund ACORN – 345 – 75. ElBruce: maybe they need some of your “reasoning” to get them to think otherwise, Huh? This is a win for the good guys, finally!


  166. jerseygirl says:

    #176 He can try but the evidence is starting to stack up against him. If it is proven that ACORN was run as a criminal enterprise and Obama has stated that ACORN would be “at the table” for policy decisions, then he will have some serious splainin to do.


  167. ElBruce says:

    Tracy__5 says:

    “They even got rid of their CEO just because her brother had embezzled from them decades ago.”

    My how gracious of them. After multiple arrests of their employees for voter registration fraud over the years why are they just now calling for an independent audit of their offices and operations?

    I’ll repeat the words just after what you quoted, since you’re suffering from selective ignorance again: “That was a known fact and he was making restitution.” He was busted for the embezzlement a long time ago and had been paying it off since then. His sister was not at fault, but they had her step down anyways.

    How often does any company or organization do a full independent audit of their operations?

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    Where is their oversight?

    In disciplining employees being found to have engaged in any wrongdoing promptly and appropriately, as they have always done.

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    You actually think that these four videos so far constitute even a small percentage of the corruption in ACORN?

    The right wing has had them under a microscope for over a year now, and have extremely little to show for it. So, yes. At this point, they’re probably about the “cleanest” organization on the planet.

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    If it wasn’t for the fact that they are a partisian group in which the ratio of registering Democrats to Republicans was practically 100 to 1…

    Cite your statistic, please.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they registered significantly more Democrats than Republicans, but only because Republicans oppose the interests of the poor, and Democrats try to represent all economic classes equally. If there was an organization dedicated to registering rural voters, they’d probably get more Republicans than Democrats, but that wouldn’t make them an arm of the Republican party, provided that they didn’t pre-screen the applicants by party (which ACORN does not).

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    After the fact…every time.

    Yes. You don’t throw people in jail before they commit a crime. You also don’t fire people before they’ve done anything wrong. Or else you would have been fired from your job already.

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    The fact that ACORN is being forced (finally) to do an independent audit just shows they had no intention of doing so untill someone call them on it…

    Again, how frequently does any company or organization have a complete independent audit of its operations done? You seem to be trying to make it sound like that’s par for the course, but such a step is an extremely expensive and disruptive in any organization, and nobody does it unless there’s the serious perception of a problem.

    The perception of a problem is not the same thing as a problem, by the way.

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    …and this time with video that they actually couldn’t deny.

    I’ll withhold final judgement until the rest of the heavily edited copy comes out. It’s also been reported that the ACORN employees were playing along with the filmmakers as a joke.

    Now, I’m not saying that that’s the case; I’ll 90% grant that those people did the wrong thing, for purposes of argument. But for any legal purposes, or for saying “they can’t deny it!” then we’ll need the context to make a final judgement.

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    BS. It just shows the American people how narrow minded she actually is and her ostrich mentality when it comes to those raising corruption questions about ACORN falls on her deaf ears.

    What? What the hell are you talking about?

    All that link showed was that she wasn’t informed of the development before the reporter asked her about it. All that demonstrates is that she hasn’t been keeping tabs on ACORN. And that pretty well indicates that the Democratic party doesn’t particularly care about them.

    Once again, you have made the mistake of confusing the house vote to avoid funding ACORN with something that ACORN presumably did. Just because the house votes against you doesn’t say anything bad about you. It does say something bad about their inability to stand up to slander.

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    Responding after the fact on multiple occasions is just proof positive that they is no internally system for policing themselves. Has there ever been an occasion where ACORN, on it’s own, fired their own employees for voter registration fraud for example?

    Why yes – how about all of them? The only reason that we know about voter registration fraud is because ACORN first fired any cheating canvassers, and then bundled all of their ballots separately before turning them over to the election committees.

    This is like the third time I’ve explained this; are you not capable of reading these words or something?

    .

    jerseygirl says:

    Once again – I call upon ACORN to open their books – not to someone that they appoint – but to an INDEPENDANT auditor.

    Please read the original news post at the top of this web page. Ah screw it, I’ll just copy/paste down here:

    I am, in consultation with ACORN’s Executive Committee, immediately ordering a halt to any new intakes into ACORN’s service programs until completion of an independent review. I have also communicated with ACORN’s independent Advisory Council, and they will assist ACORN in naming an independent auditor and investigator to conduct a thorough review of all of the organizations relevant systems and processes.

    The fact that you don’t even know what the subject of the discussion on this page pretty well indicates the degree of selective ignorance you’re applying here.

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    I don’t think ACORN is corrupt from the top down per se. I think they do however turn a blind eye and hide their heads in the sand and hope these revelations of corruption go away…

    Please read the original news post at the top of this web page. Ah screw it, I’ll just copy/paste down here:

    I am, in consultation with ACORN’s Executive Committee, immediately ordering a halt to any new intakes into ACORN’s service programs until completion of an independent review. I have also communicated with ACORN’s independent Advisory Council, and they will assist ACORN in naming an independent auditor and investigator to conduct a thorough review of all of the organizations relevant systems and processes.

    The fact that you don’t even know what the subject of the discussion on this page pretty well indicates the degree of selective ignorance you’re applying here.

    .

    jerseygirl says:

    I guarantee that Obama’s fingerprints are all over this operation.

    What are the terms of your “guarantee?” What do I get back when your laughable fantasy is demonstrated to be wrong?

    .

    jerseygirl says:

    This just in – House Votes to Defund ACORN – 345 – 75.

    It’s not “just in,” we’ve been talking about it for days now.

    .

    jerseygirl says:

    Tracy_5: Obama doesn’t have to expose himself – just follow the money. Connect the dots.

    I love phrases like this. They’re like a big signpost reading “BATSH!T CRAZY AHEAD! ENTERING TINFOIL HELMET ZONE!” right before the road ends at a cliff launching you into a maaagical world. You never know what’s going to come next – 9/11 truther? Lizard alien infiltration? Obama/Ayers/ACORN? Trepanning defeats the devil? Could be anything. You never know you’re on your way out of crazyland until you see the sign that says “WAKE UP SHEEPLE!” to let you know it’s over.

    .

    jerseygirl says:

    …open the ACORN books. I’ll bet no one on this site wants that to happen.

    Please read the original news post at the top of this web page. Ah screw it, I’ll just copy/paste down here:

    I am, in consultation with ACORN’s Executive Committee, immediately ordering a halt to any new intakes into ACORN’s service programs until completion of an independent review. I have also communicated with ACORN’s independent Advisory Council, and they will assist ACORN in naming an independent auditor and investigator to conduct a thorough review of all of the organizations relevant systems and processes.

    The fact that you don’t even know what the subject of the discussion on this page pretty well indicates the degree of selective ignorance you’re applying here.
    .

    jerseygirl says:

    #176 He can try but the evidence is starting to stack up against him. If it is proven that ACORN was run as a criminal enterprise and Obama has stated that ACORN would be “at the table” for policy decisions, then he will have some serious splainin to do.

    So let me get this straight.. if any enterprise or organization has ever done anything wrong, and a President gives them a voice in shaping policy, then that President is culpable for the wrongdoing?

    Are you sure you want to go there?


  168. jerseygirl says:

    OPen the books – Guilty as charged.


  169. ElBruce says:

    You didn’t actually read anything I said, did you? You’re just coming back to repeat yourself. I could blargle foof mongrodiggle and you wouldn’t even notice, huh?


  170. ElBruce says:

    Tracy__5 says:

    I don’t give a damn about this single incident where ACORN busted one guy. I am talking about an entire audit and internal investigation of the entire organization. Get it?

    You mean you’re here to loudly demand that they do the thing they announced they’re doing, as if they aren’t already doing it. Got it.

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    It’s called bringing in an independent third party to audit their organization everything from their finances, to their hiring practices. It’s done by the business world on a daily basis. I see that when it comes to running a business or a non profit organization you aren’t too bright apparently.

    Standard audits are done yearly by corporations, but a full process audit with new business simultaneously frozen for the duration are not.

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    Well considering a fifth video has been released are you really that naive to think that this is the end?

    Those videos are just recuts of the same instances. Five cuts of the vide =/= five instances of wrongdoing.

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    At this point, they’re probably about the “cleanest” organization on the planet.”

    ACORN is just as dirty as Jessie Jackon’s Rainbow Coalition if not worse.

    Right, like I said – one of the “cleanest” organizations on the planet. Thanks for agreeing.

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    “…and Democrats try to represent all economic classes equally”

    That’s a good joke and lie to boot.

    I’m interested to hear which economic classes you view as more worthy than others, since you seem to insist on a tilted playing field of some sort.

    .

    Tracy__5 says:

    Why is ACORN not interested in registering poor people who live in the country? There is a HUGE population of poor people who live in rural America, but it’s obvious ACORN is only interested in getting Democrats elected, hence their operations are focused on the cities, proving my point ACORN is a partisan organization.

    I just explained how that’s not “partisan.” You’re using the “I-don’t-like-this-word so it applies” non-logical method again.

    But let’s go find out for ourselves. It looks like they’re basically looking at “underrepresented communities,” which would mean those with low voter registration proportional to their population. Sounds like a worthy goal to me.

    .

    You know, I’m just going to skip ahead. You still haven’t read the news item at the top of this page.

    And you hate the poor, and automatically target anyone who tries to help them as being your enemy. If this were two thousand years ago, you’d be complaining about Jesus just like you’re complaining about ACORN, because healed lepers might try to seek social justice from your wealthy masters.


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