O’Reilly endorses the public option, which he previously called ‘socialism.’
O’Reilly endorses the public option, which he previously called ‘socialism.’
Last night on Fox News, Bill O’Reilly actually told a Heritage Foundation scholar who was fear-mongering government-backed health care that he favors a public option:
NINA OWCHARENKO: Well, it has massive new federal regulation. So you don’t necessarily need a public option if the federal government is going to control and regulate the type of health insurance that Americans can buy.
O’REILLY: But you know, I want that, Ms. Owcharenko. I want that. I want, not for personally for me, but for working Americans, to have a option, that if they don’t like their health insurance, if it’s too expensive, they can’t afford it, if the government can cobble together a cheaper insurance policy that gives the same benefits, I see that as a plus for the folks.
Watch it:
As recently as last month, O’Reilly was still saying that progressives want “the government to run the nation’s health care system. That’s because the Feds can then redistribute income much easier, shifting resources to the poor and away from corporations and the affluent. … It’s not really about health care. It’s about socialism.”
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September 17th, 2009 at 4:04 pmRush will attack him before 5:00 p.m. this afternoon. Billo will realize the folly of his words, and by 6:00 p.m. this afternoon all will be back to normal in Republican-world.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:05 pmIn other news, hell froze over.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:06 pmOuch, ***picks self up from floor***, did I read that right? Is O’Reilly starting to see the light? I sure hope so.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:06 pmHe’ll be retracting that statement and claiming he was misquoted by the left-wing, drive-by, socialist, state-owned media.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:06 pmWhat does it say about the insurance lobby’s effectiveness if even Bill O’ is backtracking on this?
Screwing the sick is unpopular? Unbelieveable!
September 17th, 2009 at 4:06 pmI am agog.
That’s actually a very simple and easy-to-understand argument for it.
Of course, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pmO’Reilly just says anything that pops into his empty noggin.
Constipation of the brain–diarrhea of the mouth.
Mouth engaged before brain in gear.
I get more out of a class full of middle schoolers.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:07 pmI smell some Rightie on Rightie Fighty in their Tighty Whiteys
Cage match, weapons allowed, Rush vs Bill.
Bill, armed with a falafel in one hand and a loofa in the other, Rush backed up by a team of south american pre-pubescent boys
Let’s get ready to rumbuuuuuuulllllllllllllll!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 4:08 pmIs honestly don’t know what to say to this?
Is he truly bucking the other Republicans and Republican controlled news media that we all know as Fox and wants a public option? Has he finally come to his senses or has something major in his life caused him to see reality?
Then again, I wonder how long it will be before a Republican party official tells him to reverse his position back to the party line and come out against it?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:09 pmO’Reilly endorses the public option, which he previously called ‘socialism.’
– - Rush will pounce. Stay tuned for the epic battle in, Trash Of The Cretins.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:09 pmO’Reilly endorses the public option, which he previously called ‘socialism.’
– – Rush will pounce. Stay tuned for the epic battle in, Trash Of The Cretins.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:10 pmTwice?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:10 pmThat’s a statement of incredible reasonableness coming from Bill-o. Or anybody, for that matter.
Was Bill just trying to bait his guest? Does he think that President Obama has abandoned all hope of getting a public option, so how he’s for it just to be contrary? Did he suffer a brain fart? Did he get replaced by a pod person? What?
I predict this is temporary. He’ll be back to “socialism” bashing real soon.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:10 pmOMG-O’Reilly is committing heresy on Fox? Will he be excommunicated? Stay tuned.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:13 pm“O’Reilly endorses the public option, which he previously called ‘socialism.’”
I’m not buying the beans from the Falafel King that he now endorses public option. Why now? Is it because BillO the Clown is getting less attention than Beck? Is it because the other networks are having Obama for their Sunday bobblehead shows and Obama dissed Fox News that BillO now endorses public option? How is the BillO’s health coverage at Fox News? Really, anything from BillO is far stretched from the truth.
And yes, it will be interesting what El Rushbo and Fox News have to say about BillO’s “endorsement” of public option.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:17 pmSo when will Beck accuse O’Reilly of being a Nazi socialist? After all, he has said the same things about the president for pushing the public option…
http://www.political-buzz.com/
September 17th, 2009 at 4:19 pmso? this half-wit says something right and i’m supposed to take notice?
i don’t.
it matters not what that “man” says or does.
he’s meaningless.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:19 pmdoesn’t make me a billo fan,
but i’ll admit that him saying that
probably de-taboo’ed the idea of a public option
in the minds of many of his regular viewers.
that’s a good thing.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:19 pmOkay who got plastic surgery to look like Bill-O and go on his show?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:20 pmJust wait. When a bill is crafted that INCLUDES the public option…O’Reilly will call the bill socialism and deny he ever supported a public option.
What fun.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:20 pmSo is this the first part of the revise spin zone by billyboi,
this were they start the i was saying it was good thing.
after the finally found out that they are going to lose here.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:22 pmFalafel Bill0 the Sexual Predator Pervert says – I see that as a plus for the folks.
What? Is he trying to buy his soul back from the Devil?
This JackAS$ hasn’t ever wanted anything good for the common folks, why all of a sudden the change of heart?
Something funny is going on here.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:24 pmOnce they get past all the shrieking, they finally realize what we’re all really after. Just a good option for the folks.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:26 pmJust you wait until Uncle Rush and his runty nephews Sean and Glenn get wind of this, O’Reilly, and you’ll be recanting all over yourself and singing a different song. Public option bad!
Seen it before – we’ll see it again.
And the battle for the title of uber-conservative will be refreshed once again.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:28 pmO’Reilly’s audience is more sophisticated than the people who watch Beck or Hannity. The fact that audience is smarter means O’Reilly can’t dish out the bull like the other commentators. Without the argument about the government takeover, O’Reilly could not articulate a well reasoned argument against the public option.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:28 pmWhat will the kids do if Poppa Bear is on board?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:28 pmMaybe Obama IS the Anti-Christ?
O’Reilly supports a “Public Option”?
Isn’t that one of the signs of the Apocalypse?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:31 pmHe’s not called Billo the Clown for nothing!
September 17th, 2009 at 4:31 pmthere you have it. This battle has been won and there is nothing we can’t do now.
When the right starts caving and acting like it was thier idea all along, you know….You just know that they know that they have lost.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:32 pmThere’s something rotten in the state of FUX.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:32 pmgoofball
September 17th, 2009 at 4:33 pmRantingTommy says:
I smell some Rightie on Rightie Fighty in their Tighty Whiteys
Today was a great day for giggles, compliments of the posters at TP.
Thanks to all who provided the laughs :)
September 17th, 2009 at 4:34 pmO’Reilly: not personally for me, but for WORKING Americans
I totally agree.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:35 pmOne question:
Is this the new, Murdock-approved view? Perhaps Ruppert has done the math, and Newscorp. be more profitable when he doesn’t have to pay for his employees healthcare? We’re talking hundreds of millions of dollars, here.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:36 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
conservative guy says:
O’Reilly is not a conservative.
Okay.
You guys keep shrinking that tent!
September 17th, 2009 at 4:39 pmBoy, that list is getting longer and longer. I’m loving it!!
September 17th, 2009 at 4:40 pmAfter the initial shock of reading and watching that, I looked out my office window, and sure enough…pigs were flying.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:42 pmCould it be that they were derailing the dem plan for the public option so that they could re-introduce it and pretend they thought of it ?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:42 pmmost “conservatives” are just radicals
real conservatives would not support the rip off of Americans by insurance companies
real conservatives would not have supported the illegal invasion of iraq
republicans are only SOCIAL conservatives, which means they just want big government to control what you can put in your body, how and with whom you can have sex, and when you can die
big govt republicans are just ignorant morons being conned by people with a financial interest in pushing their buttons
September 17th, 2009 at 4:44 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Pat Pomery says:
The problem is “poppa bear” isn’t on board. Amanda and her faithful followers are totally misunderstanding what Bill said now and in the past.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
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No, we understand completely. He’s stopped attacking his own straw man. Probably because the Fox Populi stopped caring about health care now that there’s ACORN blood in the water.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:46 pmconservative guy says:
O’Reilly is not a conservative.
I have been saying that for years. He is lumped to the right but if anyone actually listens to what he has said in the last decade that was never the case. He is all over the map depending on the day and issue. He is a goofball, in my view.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:46 pmWhoa! Whoa!
I just thought of something. Maybe the Neo-con powers-that-be know that reform won’t pass. When it doesn’t Bill O can say he was for the working people (hence all conservatives were), and that the Dems couldn’t get it done.
Now that’s pretty sneaky!
September 17th, 2009 at 4:47 pmSomething is going on with O’Reilly; I’m not sure what. But he has been backing off a few extremist right wing positions. Reading the polls, is he? Afraid of losing his advertisers, like Beck has?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:48 pmActually, you’re the one who’s not a conservative. You don’t have any principled positions. You’re just a negative attention seeker.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:49 pmwhoa, now no one is a conservative. Funny. Who’s gonna run against dems in 2010?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:52 pmNope, it’s about honesty and integrity, something you obviously know nothing about.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:53 pmPat Pomery says:
How do free pills equate to honesty and integrity?
Actually, free pills are your guys problem, remember?
Or is Rush Limbaugh also not a conservative?
P.S. What do you have against insuring everyone? Do you hate sick people?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:57 pmthere’s a line of thought that Goes…
If Republicans really believed their own rhetoric and thought that “Obamacare” was really a Disaster in the making…then they would just let the Dems pass it…
and when IT Failed and became wildly Unpopular with the Voters, then they could use IT to hit the Dems over the head with, and win back the congress.
Assuming the Congress does NOT pass the Baucus Insurance Profit Enhancement Plan… I think the opposite will be the case, and a Public Option to buy into a Medicare like Program WILL be wildly Popular.
I would more likely believe that O’Reilly thinks it is April 1st..than I could believe he can think that many moves ahead.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:57 pmO’Reilly is priggish but still very articulate. His positions are more reasoned out than the rest of the kooks on Fox. He does not buy into all the crazy shite that people dish out on Fox. However, his sense of morality is most decidedly to the far right.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:58 pmHow does health care reform equate to free pills?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pmWe have our own insurance but it’s run by crooks and liars.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:01 pmask rush, he’s the pill guy
September 17th, 2009 at 5:01 pmPat Pomery says:
What do you have against insuring everyone?
What do you have against getting your own insurance?
Nothing. But even if you do (like I have) they can screw you… See the thread below about the teenager denied coverage for his HIV medication.
About which you said this:
Pat Pomery says:
Maybe this student should have used a rubber?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
So, you DO blame sick people then?
September 17th, 2009 at 5:01 pmHey I just found a basketball rolling around my front yard.
Anybody know where it came from?
D’OH! – nevermind.
I see the Slapparino.
Slappy – try to keep’em in the county, wouldja??
you’re gonna dent somebody’s hood one of these days…
underhand, remember!!!! -come on kid. you can do it.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:02 pmI can’t believe the fool posted his email. That’s gonna leave a mark.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:02 pmwhoops, wrong thread.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:03 pmThat’s a laugh. They lied to get us into a war. How much could they care about America?
September 17th, 2009 at 5:04 pmP.P. !?
P is for puppy.
Pat – do you really think paying more and getting less = freedom?
September 17th, 2009 at 5:04 pmIsn’t that what you all are after?
September 17th, 2009 at 5:05 pm–
No. Well atleast not I as I do not take pills and since you elected the word “all”, I guess that bs has been blown out of the water. Oh and hi conservative guy…
tell him that.
i for one don’t care.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:06 pmor maybe they just care about “certain parts” of it, yes?
September 17th, 2009 at 5:07 pmI’d ask conservative gut for a list of true conservatives but conservative guy has already run away….
September 17th, 2009 at 5:09 pmExpect Murdoch to use his paddle on Bill O for his sudden outburst of logic on Fox.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:09 pm***
hey twajie,
got a new gf yet?
:)
September 17th, 2009 at 5:10 pmThis can only mean one thing…
It must be the introduction to the opposites.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:10 pmHad to read this again, I am still shocked.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:11 pmsee what happens when o’lielly doesn’t follow the script being fed to him via the teleprompter, he actually makes sense. but something tells me his corporate puppet masters are some pissed off at him today.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:12 pmWow, did I just catch a glimpse of a soul?
September 17th, 2009 at 5:24 pmPat Pomery says:
What do you have against getting your own insurance?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
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Nothing. But perhaps you should try asking the women who are denied insurance because they had a Caesarian or because their husbands beat them. I’m sure they’d appreciate you telling them how lazy they are.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:26 pmEither I am dreaming or having an LSD flashback. I wonder how soon he will say he never said that.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:29 pmOf course O’Rielly is not a conservative, he a member of the radical right.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:33 pmWhy are you for rescission and greed?
September 17th, 2009 at 5:54 pmLOVE MIKE HUNT’s COMMENT – DITTO !
September 17th, 2009 at 6:01 pmThe public option is dead…he knows it! Soon…when nothing will work in health care, he will say that he was FOR “The public option”..Is it clear now? Never underestimate the hundreds of consultants that write the scripts for R. Murdoch and his lapdogs!
September 17th, 2009 at 6:11 pmpaulbondsf says
Uh, paul? The public option doesn’t look dead to me.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:13 pmbelacifer : wait and see! nobody in fox …or cnn… will ever go against the big corporations
September 17th, 2009 at 6:17 pmOkay, I’ll wait… but I think this is a case of a momentary lapse of insanity… not a deep, corporate conspiracy.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:19 pmoh yes, I hope that you are right…that there is still hope for this and many other things! just reflect a little, please! Remember the movie “traffic”? one of the characters says :” You guys remind me of those japanese soldiers in a remote island in the pacific, that they’re still fighting a war that ended 30 years ago!
September 17th, 2009 at 6:26 pmFred @ 63,
That fool couldn’t be aaronk could it?
September 17th, 2009 at 6:26 pmMaybe… but there’s no evidence to support that conclusion, and a ton to support its opposite.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:32 pmSlappyBastinado says:
Big “O” is fer it wer agin it…
What a well though out political philosophy you have there. Clearly such in-depth thinking is worthy of full consideration in matters of public policy.
/sarcasm
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jjm says:
Something is going on with O’Reilly; I’m not sure what. But he has been backing off a few extremist right wing positions. Reading the polls, is he? Afraid of losing his advertisers, like Beck has?
Maybe he’s starting to go the littlegreenfootballs route of switching sides based on whoever happens to be on top at the moment.
.
Pat Pomery says:
Is it all about free pills? Isn’t that what you all are after?
We’re after a system that actually provides health care to Americans (unlike the current system) without bankrupting us (as the current system is in the process of doing).
.
Pat Pomery says:
Maybe they care about the country?
The one they want to secede from and refuse to pay taxes to support? No, they don’t care about this country at all. Unless they secretly have a country other than the U.S.A. somewhere.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:43 pmAwwwwww, lookee that! Billo, all sweet tender concern about “the folks”!!
I’m sure it was only a momentary lapse; he’ll come to his senses soon.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:20 pmi never thought i’d say this but Bill O’Reilly just blew my mind. but what i think really happened is that he just didn’t get his talking points that morning and he just winged it. the PO just make so much common sense he talked himself into it…
September 17th, 2009 at 7:41 pmI’ll have to agree with #5 Chris’s statement.
He is just setting up the left-wing to say it was a socialist liberal media drive-by.
Unless he plays the co-op card. He’ll put his viewers on, making them think the co-op is a public option. Which it isn’t even close to a public option.
In my area (south central PA) we have a co-op called “Wellspan”. They are not any cheaper then the regular market.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:12 pmI smell a Fox News Spin job coming on.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:13 pmAll you cynics said God didn’t exist, that He was the flying spaghetti monster. Well, hell froze over, O’Reilly came to his sense and wants to buy his soul back from Satan. Only possible explanation.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pmI would love to see a breakdown of the reasoning behind the conservative philosophy. There seem to be too many hypocrisies in the corrupt, greed driven, selfish movement.
I believe it can simply be broken down into: liberals believe that every person is important and conservatives only believe people are important in the womb when that can’t speak a different language or disagree with anything conservatives say. The reason they think the media is liberal is that it portrays a thinking man’s view of topics looking at pros and cons instead of “what I heard someone else say”.
Don’t want to allow abortions but don’t want the government telling us what to do. Choose life but don’t take my guns away since it is only bad guys that kill other people not guns. (It is a lot harder for bad guys to kill with a butter knife).
We don’t like “illegal” immigrants (or all nonwhites for that matter): I think only the Sioux, Seminole, Cherokee, and Apache have a right to weigh in on illegal immigration.
Don’t tax me more for health care, but equally high premiums are OK because they are not a TAX: I don’t mind paying my taxes and would much rather it go to the government than a uncaring corporation.
Funny how the ideology behind socialism focuses on society and capitalism focuses on money yet it is those who aren’t well off that are fervent against government run health care.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:59 pmSeptember 17th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Is this a change? The old band at Fox, what air are they sniffing? A different wind? So now it is time to play less looney tunes?
September 17th, 2009 at 10:04 pmConservatives? Let’s see- Bill kistol or David Frum? Perhaps Barry Goldwater’s idea’s or Glenn Beck. No wait,Rush Limbaugh or Bill Buckley.Today’s conservative pantheon of heros? Lou Dobb,SEan Hannity,Michael Steele,Rush Limbaugh,Michele Malkin–there are so many who could be listed with the previously mentioned best and brightest.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:07 pmSlappyMORON
When are you going to stop begging us to pity you. we all get that you are stupid and pathetic but you are a crackwhore addicted to pity and we all know it isnt good for you to give you another pityfix. Your post will go to the sewer where it belongs and there is no pity there for you. Find some dignity and STFU
September 17th, 2009 at 10:12 pmPat Pomery says:
Is it all about showing everyone how stupid you are? IS that what gets you conservatives off?
September 17th, 2009 at 10:14 pmPat Pomery says:
I am curious. What is in it for you? I mean being an ignorant punkass troll and a stupid pile of dogshit.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:15 pmSpoken like someone NOT smarter than a fifth grader.
Conservatives Please secede again. I would love to have you rid of.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:25 pmGive it a rest Pomery for Gods sake.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:37 pmSeptember 17th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
But, since you want to play the finger pointing game, fine, did GWB stop North Korea a nuke? No. So then he and you both are on the side of Kim Jong Il.
Thats sounds stupid and illogical, yes?
Because it very much is.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:48 pmAnd really Pomery, I know cnservatives, I have family member that self identify by that word.
And you, with this ‘your an enemy’ bleating seems to me a rational for your bias. Call someone a name, believe your on projecitonist BS, then use that BS as some form of truth, so you can feign outrage and hatred for someone you dont have a clue about.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:55 pmWhat? TF?
The sky is falling, the sky is falling, the Apocalypso is upon us, we’re stuck on the tracks in this tunnel and I don’t think that light ahead is the sun rising… Holy Hamburger.
Oh, sorry, it’s just O’Reilly’s annual unscheduled random moment of sanity. Call me if he does it again.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:58 pmGad, what a whole torrent of incoherent reichwing vomit! Pommy, you’re not only an idiot, but an illiterate idiot as well. Just shut up, OK?
September 17th, 2009 at 11:12 pmPat Pomery says:
Good to know you are both stupid AND brainwashed. Do you think you are MORE stupid or MORE brainwashed? Our intelligence agencies are UNINIMOUS in saying Iran stopped its nuclear program years ago. Khamieni the supreme religious leader in Iran put a fatwa ON nuclear weapons and said no country has a right to have them. Why dont you just STFU until you get some dim idea what you are talking about?
September 17th, 2009 at 11:12 pmPat Pomery says:
Sad to know you are such an ignorant punkass troll and ignorant pile of dogshit
September 17th, 2009 at 11:12 pmDo you really think 1.4 billion out of almost a trillion a year for defense is keeping the US from developing a missile defense system?
September 17th, 2009 at 11:13 pmPat Pomery says:
Bush was stupid Not as stupid as you but pretty stupid. The missile defense still doesnt work. It may NEVER work. Why dont we just put up a force field?
September 17th, 2009 at 11:15 pmHey guys, how does our defense budget of almost a trillion a year sends a signal that we dont take threats seriously?
September 17th, 2009 at 11:16 pmThis Pomery thinks 1.4 billion out of a some 800 billion is going to make us less safe.
Not only that but we do have a missile defense system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_missile_defense
September 17th, 2009 at 11:19 pmLemme fill you in Pomery, you DO NOT get to decide what I am or am not, so out down your dishonest brush and stop trying to paint others into your views
September 17th, 2009 at 11:21 pmSeptember 17th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Now, Pomery, what party controlled the purse strings [congress] in 2000?
Actually they were the majority in congress from 1994 to 2006.
Why didnt they fund your beloved missile system Pomery?
September 17th, 2009 at 11:27 pmSry. but my patience is ‘running low’! IMO, America may occassionally have a case of socialism, but only because (we) imagine it to be true! The fact of socialism, or more aptly put, an intractable societal inertia, is well documented in EU societies, because: 1) The EU has some loosely associated labor coalitions existing there, and these typically include many professions and occupations; so, the more general European labor unions are typically forced to take positions, well situated into narrow corners, of specially chosen platforms, for debates, and for arguments’ sake(?) 2) it is already particularly well understood in Europe, that workforces naturally lose in all negotiations, and that employers will soon win? As a result, European labor negotiations usually resolve into debates over small degrees, of the way things are, already!
IMO, there are four differences between American society and European societies, which explain why socialism does exist in a prominent way in Europe, and does not exist at all in America; that “socialism” is a myth here, and it does not contribute to the extinguishment of our innovative spirit, nor does it aid, at all, in the curtailing of our dreams(?):
1) Europeans have a perception (this may be unwarranted) of the massive fluxing of their own workforces, and this makes working conditions in Europe hard to regulate! Rarely is it even achievable to schedule the same, or a regular work week; those European rules and regulations that do exist, are expected to continue more or less the same, and they usually do!
2) Europe has mostly those countries with homogeneous national populations, and a given European country will readily capitulate towards a single, uniform national style of marketing; therefore, European workers are naturally, more nearly totally dependent upon their employers for a slow, ‘refreshing’ of products and their advertising; (these countries demonstrate the closest economic examples of Marx’s narrow-cast, (universal?) “Titanic, cultural, superstructure!” Diverse American needs may be a contributor to our many adveritsing styles, advertising paces, and advertising product cycles.
3) European countries have smaller overall workforces than the United States; in the shadow of America, European countries are slower to report and slower to legislate against certain numbers of workplace safety concerns, or otherwise, given numbers of other product safety concerns.
4) (IMO), there is evidence of the under-utilization of technology in European nations, only! In all societies, there is an important but delicate ‘tie-in’ between technology and the ’style’ of an economy’s products and services. Whereas, technology can be highly sophisticated, when at the same time it will become less useful to the broad span of social vocations, it is only in those smaller, single-style European economies that this aesthetic tie-in has become strained, and that sophisticated technologies are also less available for European businesses’ applications!
September 17th, 2009 at 11:28 pmSeptember 17th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
I hate to break up this little love-fest, but
what exactly does missle defense have to do with this string?
I thought it was about Bill-O and the public option.
Anywho, from the clip, I did not get that Bill-O was endorsing the PO especially since he started with saying it was dead. I suspect Bill-O will say he was endorsing co-ops,with government assistance and not PO, but I hope I am wrong.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:30 pmIt was a fairly slow thread and Pomerys ignorance was amusing me?
September 17th, 2009 at 11:31 pmOkay, I have no idea why Pomery brought up missiles, maybe it because Bill-O is a rocket scientist.
Heh
September 17th, 2009 at 11:37 pmP.P.
That’s a hoot. And beyond.
You’re trying to scare people here, with some MIC lobbyist’s chicken little story?
It’s cute that you seem to think yourself “good” at this,
just like the puppies who think they will “catch” trucks when they drive by.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:42 pmIs Bill-O for a PO? He says if its cheaper than a private policy, with the same benefits, he would be for it.
Then again Bill-O has no problem with government medical care for the troops.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:43 pmStupid is as stupid does, P.P.
Can you raise the pie higher, and put food on your family, P.P.?
The wmd’s are all in Syria, aren’t they P.P. Were it all a lie, you’d have known from the start, right chum?
Or do you wish that Obama and the D’s would all just disappear all at once over night, and leave you alone with your gin and your collection of George Will books on tape?
I’m sorry.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:48 pmBecause the psycho in training recently read this:
Analysis: Shelving missile shield entices Moscow
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090918/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_us_missile_defense_analysis
and instead of trying to defend Billdo, he thought it would be easier to defend the Chimperor.
You have to give him some credit, after all he kept us safe in the Alabama skies defending us from a Viet Cong air attack.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:48 pmBill O is a bold, fresh piece; or something to that effect.
A regular guy, just like P.P!!
They’re pulling for Mitt, and pulling hard!.
Mitt’s hair looks like a squirrel.
Will Sarah agree to serve him??
September 17th, 2009 at 11:50 pm.
Hey, Mr. O’Liely has two sides to his mouth…
… He was against “SOCIALISM” before he was for it.
Oops…
… Of course it’s not “SOCIALISM” when O’Liely supports it, YES?
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September 18th, 2009 at 12:31 am@ 112. EugeneDebs says: Pat Pomery says: … Our intelligence agencies are UNINIMOUS in saying Iran stopped its nuclear program years ago … September 17th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
EugeneD, I pretty much concur, so don’t take this the wrong way. The word is UNANIMOUS, not UNINIMOUS. Just slow down a touch on the kbd.
OTOH, with reference to the intel and covert cowboys, you-ninny-mouse is probably more appropriate than you-nanny-mouse. Either one will offend them…
My position is that technical means aren’t the solution anyway; the physics of the problem is reasonably well understood and from that point of view, technical solutions are doable, at least for single shot events (single “rogue” launches). That isn’t the way we need to go though, because that isn’t a long-term or near-permanent solution.
The long term solution is a verifiable, enforcable treaty between the parties.
September 18th, 2009 at 1:30 amVirtual Pebble says:
Yes it is. I am less a poor speller, though I am that than a poor typist. I know how to spell unanymous (just kidding) Sure the physics is well known. Give me two Cal Tech engineering grads, enough money and some plutonium and I can have a nuke in a couple of years. Iran has political problems with trying to make a nuke as well as the biggie of actually getting the high level fissionable material. Yeah the long term solution really the ONLY solution would be negotiated. Certainly a doable proposition
September 18th, 2009 at 4:02 amThis actually raises concerns for me. If the right-wing propaganda machine is now suppotive of what is being referred to as a “public option,” one has to wonder why.
September 18th, 2009 at 7:29 amArchie Bunker once said, “it is easy to be generous when it doesn’t cost anything.” Since Bill doesn’t believe the public option will pass, it is easy to support it. Later he use this to deny he is not the right wing radical that he really is.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:07 amjohnny dollar,
Dubya could not fly in the Alabama Guard because by that time a drug test was required. He never flew in Bama. He just showed up once for free dental. He only protected Texas from the Viet Cong Air Force that did not exist.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:41 amIs it possible that Billo pays closer attention to the polls than anyone else in the country?
September 18th, 2009 at 9:40 amMaybe BIllO was informed of the way the Insurance companies have figured out how they WOULD make money on the public option, and now it is a good thing.
Up is down, right is left.
NEVER, EVER TRUST THE RIGHT WING WITH ANYTHING, EVER!
September 18th, 2009 at 9:57 amHas anyone noticed that President Obama has kept us safer than the Bush regime could?
September 18th, 2009 at 9:59 amSeptember 18 and counting.
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guess who didn’t get their picture
on the cover of time magazine?
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September 18th, 2009 at 10:43 amBill O’Reilly is a very smart man. He knows that Glen Beck is a giant flaming bag of turds sitting on the door step of democracy waiting to be stepped on. He’s jumping ship before the real fire breaks out.
September 18th, 2009 at 10:47 amWait wait wait wait wait….
Did I read that right, or did I just stroke out for a second?
Alternatively, did I wake up in the Twilight Zone this morning?
What the shit is going on?????
September 18th, 2009 at 11:00 amI have long felt that O’Reilly often does not fully comprehend the import of what he is saying – that he rarely thinks things all the way through on the air.
This makes for a certain random quality to his bloviations – what will he say next? This is perhaps part of his appeal. Limbaugh in contrast clearly knows exactly what he is saying and is a model of consistency.
So will O’Reilly support the public option in the future? Not with any predicatable consistency.
September 18th, 2009 at 11:11 amHe said something good. Don’t kick him for it, give him a cookie.
It’s tit-for-tat.
September 18th, 2009 at 1:39 pmMaybe Bill has a preexisting condition that his insurance won’t pay for? Do they cover foot removal out of mouth?
September 18th, 2009 at 2:14 pmIt looks to me like Bill-O just set up his future attack that it was Democrats that killed the public option and that he fought for it all along, showing that little clip. Actual reality means nothing and consistency less.
More than a few times they have changed direction with head snapping speed as the political need of the moment changed, and then accuse those who call them on it as lying.
By the time proof they were wrong is laid out, their supporters will have never seen it.
September 19th, 2009 at 4:28 pmwhat’s socialist about the public option?
September 20th, 2009 at 2:08 amThank you for your sharing.!
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:41 amTime to find a “wedge issue” to drive viewers back to his show? liposuction
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:06 am