Barnes: Effect Of Obama’s Missile Defense Policy Could Be ‘Worse’ Than Cuban Missile Crisis
Barnes: Effect Of Obama’s Missile Defense Policy Could Be ‘Worse’ Than Cuban Missile Crisis
Soon after President Obama announced that he would abandon President Bush’s plan to construct a missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic (and replace it with a smarter, more effective one), the right wing predictably went into hysterics.
The typical cast of characters trotted out their predictable neoconservative lines. The Weekly Standard and the National Review led the cries of “appeasement,” “surrender,” and “weakness,” with the likes of super-hawk John Bolton calling Obama’s move “pre-emptive capitulation.”
Last night on Fox News, Charles Krauthammer joined in, complaining that Russia can now take over all of eastern Europe (despite the fact that didn’t happen the last time he predicted such an event). But later in the program, the Weekly Standard’s Fred Barnes took demagoguery’s top prize:
BARNES: And it’s reminiscent of that famous meeting in 1961 of John F. Kennedy, a rookie president like Barack Obama, then with Nikita Khrushchev. And what did Khrushchev conclude from that meeting? That it was a weak president. And what happened? You had the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the Berlin Wall built in Berlin, obviously. Worse could happen here.
Watch it:
Nevermind the fact that Barnes’ historical analogy isn’t close to analogous, he actually thinks that President Obama’s new missile defense policy (which is not dismantling missile defense) is going to lead to something worse than the Cuban Missile Crisis and the creation of the Berlin Wall.
“Those who say we are scrapping missile defense in Europe are either misinformed or misrepresenting the reality of what we are doing,” Defense Secretary Robert Gates said, who, along the the Joint Chiefs of Staff, recommended the move. U.S. defensive missile capability will now address real threats, as the Wonk Room’s Matt Duss noted:
[Obama's decision] is another important step in reforming the structures of U.S. national security to deal with threats as they actually exist in the real world, and not as they exist in the fevered imaginations of conservative ideologues and the defense contractors who love them.
Speaking at the Brookings Institution today, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that criticism of the Obama plan is “not yet connected to the facts. We are not, quote, ’shelving’ missile defense. We are deploying missile defense sooner than the Bush administration planned to do so.” Indeed, a more pragmatic approach that focuses on real, rather than imagined, threats.
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Well I guess he doesn’t know much about the Cuban Missile Crisis then. Are their any honest republicans – any at all?
September 18th, 2009 at 1:33 pmExactly. I listened to the debate on C-SPAN yesterday. They are replacing the old technology with a different type that doesn’t scan in a 360 degree radius but rather is directional which will enable the Russians to see we are not targeting them. Plus, the new system will be deployed quicker.
September 18th, 2009 at 1:35 pm***
we beat the russians and the cubans
and we didn’t get bogged down in
havana for 7 years, fred.
:)
ot,
carrie prejean at the values voter summit.
an embarrassment of riches.
:)
September 18th, 2009 at 1:40 pmMaybe he and Dana Perino had the same history teacher?
September 18th, 2009 at 1:40 pmWas Barnes asleep during the “crisis?” I do believe JFK came out on top on that one. But, the reality is that repubs and their drooling supporters have undertaken to question Obama’s credibility on every issue including what kind of milk is served in the WH….. Obama needs a more effective response mechanism and the Dems don’t have that now.
September 18th, 2009 at 1:41 pmHmmm, replace an antiquated POS piece of equipment that can’t do the job with up-to-date, state of the art equipment that will do the job better and more efficienly…
Sounds like the last election…
No wonder the neo-cons hate it
September 18th, 2009 at 1:41 pmSome people think they know everything. WTF would that doofus know about this? Freddy, go suck Morty’s dingy, and shut the “F” up.
September 18th, 2009 at 1:41 pmYes…because Russia is a Communist dictatorship that is on the verge of taking us and all our allies in Europe out with a barrage of nuclear weapons.
The joke was that the GOP perpetually lived in a version of the 1950s that never quite existed. Looks like they’ve “progressed” to 1962.
September 18th, 2009 at 1:42 pmHmmmm… And I always thought that one of the critical factors that led to the Cuban Missile Crisis was the presence of U.S. missiles in Turkey.
Jeez. Well, I’m heading off to rip those pages out of my history book now…. Cheers!
September 18th, 2009 at 1:46 pmPoor RepubliSCUMS, they are so unhappy :(
September 18th, 2009 at 1:46 pmBetter stop all the frowning or your face might stick that way :)
Soon after Presient Obama…
Psst…a little spell-check…
September 18th, 2009 at 1:47 pmWe voted for CHANGE and if . .
Barnes and Krappy are upset, GOOD!
These partisan chickenhawks should just STFU about foreign policy considering they were ALL sooo wrong about Iraq . .
September 18th, 2009 at 1:47 pmAgain, they misconstrue the facts why am I not surprised.
September 18th, 2009 at 1:48 pmYou had the Cuban Missile Crisis, and the Berlin Wall built in Berlin, obviously. Worse could happen here.
– - Yeah, like a wall built up around the Texas – U.S. border.
September 18th, 2009 at 1:48 pmOh wait, Barnes said “worse.”
I’m afraid that the next use of nuclear weapons won’t come from one country invading another, but rather from some form of terrorism, state supported or not. And the risk of that event happening was increased a hundredfold by Bush’s refusal to sign the non-proliferation treaties while he was in office.
September 18th, 2009 at 1:49 pmand Joseph Cirincione said:
LINK
September 18th, 2009 at 1:50 pmhey barnes and krout, you guys don’t know jack about forign policy.
We can help Europe if they need it. They don’t seem to be asking….
September 18th, 2009 at 1:51 pmWhy are they even following up on the previous administration’s fear of Iran?
September 18th, 2009 at 1:54 pmSeriously Fred, don’t let any facts get in the way of your mouthing off.
Fred Barnes–nothing from the shoulders up.
September 18th, 2009 at 1:55 pmNeoScum wouldn’t know a fact if it sat in their lap and called them Mama.
Spinning this into fear is what these scumbags do, lies and fear, it’s all they got.
September 18th, 2009 at 1:58 pmIf the war profiteers and social manipulators at Heritage Foundation
September 18th, 2009 at 2:00 pmand AEI are voicing their disapproval, the world can be confident
that Obama made a wise choice.
ully foyle says:
Fred Barnes–nothing from the shoulders up.
– - Actually, Fred is an empty suit.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:00 pmJust more scare tactics by neocons. They want the public to think the sky is falling because of Obama.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:02 pmBarnes and Krauthammer, like Bolton, The Dick and Little Billy Krystal saw Doctor Strangelove on Turner Classic and thought it was a documentary.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:04 pmYou had the Cuban Missile Crisis…
Wasn’t the Cuban Missile Crisis caused by one nation parking nukes right next to the other nation’s border? So once again, a wignut is saying the exact opposite of fact. Barnes just wants us to play Russia this time around.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:06 pmThe Bush “missile shield defense system” that was going to be put into place was never going to work at all. It was just another Bush gift of billions of dollars to military contractors. It is more akin to the Reagan “Star Wars” fantasy of missile defense, which had a zero percent chance of actually working in any real-world situations. Iran is no threat to anyone except to the weak egos of the Bush crime family, who are now, thankfully, out of power. It is time for Imperial America to back off, get all our mercenaries and troops out of Afghanistan and Iran. Stop bombing Pakistan and Somalia. Close our military bases in Columbia which are threatening Venezuela.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:07 pmBOO!
Vote republican and we will won’t use all caps when we scare you…
September 18th, 2009 at 2:08 pmGeorge says – Hehehe, they figured out that stuff I did was really f’d up, that’s my style, decidering f’d stuff. Satan loves f’d up stuff, and I was the best at it. That missile system was really a good idea for f’ing stuff up over there. The Ruskies just hated it, which is why I liked it, why if used it would just blow the fck out of some of those Euro-peeing villages, they are poor anyway so it would be good for them. Obama should just leave everything just like I left it, spying, torturing, rendition, graft, corruption, huge debt, war profiting, it’s what my Master, Satan, likes, them’s good stuff I did, all chaos like. And look at me, I’m free as a bird, living off the sweat of those have-nots, what you think Dick?
Dick says – I need fresh blood from cute kittens and puppies.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:09 pmWorse than the Cuban Missile Crisis?
Well, these guys WERE the ones who said Saddam Hussein was as dangerous as Hitler so they ought to know.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:10 pmBarnes learned everything he knows about the Cuban missile crisis from Dana Perino.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:10 pmWhat would Republicans know about defense? Remember, we were hit on 09/11/01. During Republican watch. Bill Clinton even warned them about Osama, the Republicans claimed he was trying to distract attension away from the blow job case. Looks like he wasn’t, was he?
It amazes me how the Republicans can still get away with the propaganda.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:11 pmAs pointed out above, wasn’t the end point of the Cuban Missle Crisis that Cuba dismantled theirs ?
And why do the repubs always insist we spend massive amounts of money and technology for so-called solutions that don’t work ? Wouldn’t fiscal conservatism demand that we look for the benefit we get for our dollar ?
Of course, I am ignoring defense contractor incentives. But I also can’t forget:
Duck and Cover
September 18th, 2009 at 2:12 pmDuct-tape and Plastic
The current Missle Defense controversy
The recent controversy over a fighter jet
Star Wars defense system
“dragon” armor for our troops
The small munitions defense system for our armored vehicles (the one where we ignored a working system to pay a fortune for a non-working one)
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Only one word have I for these Republikants.
BOO!
September 18th, 2009 at 2:13 pmmore about this missile defense policy
LINK
September 18th, 2009 at 2:14 pmMr. Barnes also said McCain would win the election so it looks like another Bushie who is wrong. If these are the type of people giving information no wonder we’re in all this mess.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:15 pmHas anyone EVER thought to ask any of these Repignofascist Cheney-wipes where they became so conversant on military issues? Did Fred Barnes spend any time in a leadership role in the military? How about any of the others. Bill Kristol perhaps? These sickening bastards are pathetic. They know all about “war” but not a damned one of them ever donned a uniform and served.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:15 pmWhatever you do don’t click joe cantwell’s Carrie Prejean link. When she speaks it sucks intelligence right out of your brain.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:16 pmWhy would Russia want to take over a bunch of yurps?
September 18th, 2009 at 2:17 pm#27
BOO!
Vote republican and we will won’t use all caps when we scare you…
“…will won’t”
What does this mean?
September 18th, 2009 at 2:18 pmThe Weekly Standard, the National Review, and all the rest of the right-wing talking heads are pretty predictable. This has nothing to do with national security, international security, or smart foreign policy.
It’s just more of “Republicans = good, Democrats = bad”.
When the neocons wanted to bomb Afghanistan back to the Stone Age, this was good — even though we never caught OBL. When they wanted to bomb Iraq because, after all, Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were the same person, this was good. When Barack Obama spoke of “taking out” any known terrorist camps inside the Pakistan border, this was bad — it was “attacking a sovereign country!”
If Bush had proposed a somewhat intelligent, efficient, short range missle program for Europe, the neocons would have supported the idea. And if President Obama suggested scrapping it in favor of a more robust (and more expensive), long-range missile defense program, they would be all over that, claiming that it wasn’t smart, it cost too much, and it wouldn’t do the job efficiently.
President Obama should just go ahead and do what he thinks is right for our country and for the world. The right-wingers are going to attack him no matter what he does — just because.
When you only have one tune to play, the audience will lose interest in you after awhile. The conservatives would do well to remember that.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:19 pmFear, fear and more FEAR! If it were up to republicans we’d all still be driving something like Edsel’s. If you don’t know what an Edsel was, click here.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:19 pmFomenting fear in the ignorant is all they have.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:20 pmUnfortunately it works.
They, at one time, were the ‘Team-B’ alternative intelligence group.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:20 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B
This comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hard Brake.
Arent isnt the gNOpers all up in a tizzy about the Chicago school?
Oh gNOz!
September 18th, 2009 at 2:23 pmThe sky is falling! The freakin’ sky is falling!!!!
September 18th, 2009 at 2:23 pmYeah NOT pissing of the Russians is dangerous. Anyhoo why do they never worry about budget deficits when their friends the defense contractors are getting something? The only time they worry is when the people are getting something.
Hey, Barnes knows what he’s talking about. Here he is demonstrating his vast foreign policy expertise in August of 2002:
“What the United States must do is depose Saddam Hussein and his regime, whether or not that requires a full-scale war or a small conflict requiring fewer than 100,000 American and allied troops (and there will be allies). It should be far less difficult than Desert Storm in 1991: Saddam has fewer troops, poorly armed.”
When challenged on the difficulty in doing this, Fred Barnes answered with this gruesome chestnut:
“The U.S. will win easily and with few casualties. There will be tens of thousands of Iraqi surrenders and defections. No quagmire.”
So, maybe we could take anything Fred Barnes says with a grain of salt.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:25 pmI laugh at Fred Barnes.
Though he is a little more clever than STORM.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:25 pmBarnes forgot to compare Obama with Chamberlain and the Munich Agreement. Because its the exact same thing
He like the Western powers in the 1930s has shown weakness and now the mighty Iranians with a military budget the size of Norways will invade Israel and Europe and start World War III. And its all Obamas fault! Run for your lives!
September 18th, 2009 at 2:26 pm44 Storm says: Here’s a little video of the Kurds after they were gassed.
Storm, obviously this was a crime against humanity. But who supplied the gas and who was supporting the govt at the time ?
September 18th, 2009 at 2:26 pmDance, Stormy! DANCE!
September 18th, 2009 at 2:27 pmNinerFan says:
Well, these guys WERE the ones who said Saddam Hussein was as dangerous as Hitler so they ought to know.
Everybody they don’t like is “Hitler.” By the way, Hitler would have totally put nuke sites in Poland.
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Mike Hunt says:
Has anyone EVER thought to ask any of these Repignofascist Cheney-wipes where they became so conversant on military issues?
That’s an excellent point. With the exception of a few extremely one-sided invasions we launched in Central America in the 80’s and 90’s, just about every military decision made by a Republican since the 1800’s has been a case study in abject misery and failure.
Wingnuts know almost as much about military strategy as they do history, law, economics or math.
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nellre says:
Fomenting fear in the ignorant is all they have.
Yeah, but they’re really stretching at this point. They’re like this close to screaming about aliens invading from outer space.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:27 pmThugs. That’s the only way to describe the US military.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:27 pmOkay, I give. What does that have to do with a missile defense system?
September 18th, 2009 at 2:28 pmwhere’s cheese flap, with an incisive haiku about
“puppy chases its tail”,
when we really need it?
September 18th, 2009 at 2:28 pmA mushroom is more clever than stormy boy.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:30 pmWonder if Barnes has enough depends in his closet?
tony and lido
Stormy, we’re waiting for your answer to #50. It’s not a trick question. What’s taking you so long?
September 18th, 2009 at 2:30 pmYes, Storm, most of us remember that in the late 80’s, while an ally of ours and using weapons sold to him by the Reagan administration, Saddam gassed a Kurdish village. Do you have a point? Is it that this incident proves conservatives were correct in comparing Saddam to Hitler, who by the time we got serious about him had taken over 90% of Europe by military force and executed close to 20 million civilians?
You keep making that argument, guy. It just continues to demonstrate that you and people like you have absolutely NO clue about history and common sense.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:32 pmThe TP theme of the day seems to be “Antique Neocons”.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:33 pmSeptember 18th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
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#57,
shayne,
don’t bother him right now
he’s busy getting gassed.
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September 18th, 2009 at 2:34 pmUmm, STORM?
It’s you guys on the right who ignored the gas attacks… (and probably gave Saddam the gas, although that’s top secret)
The official U.S. government reaction to Halabja? At first the government downplayed the reports, which were coming from Iranian sources. Once the media had confirmed the story and pictures of the dead villagers had been shown on television, the U.S. denounced the use of gas. Marlin Fitzwater told reporters, “Everyone in the administration saw the same reports you saw last night. They were horrible, outrageous, disgusting and should serve as a reminder to all countries of why chemical warfare should be banned.” But as Power observes, “The United States issued no threats or demands.” The government’s objection was that Saddam had used gas to kill his own citizens, not that he had killed them.
http://hnn.us/articles/862.html
September 18th, 2009 at 2:35 pmA STORM
September 18th, 2009 at 2:36 pmWind blows
Empty room
Fred Barnes knows foreign policy. Here’s another astute observation from 2002:
“We are indeed at war. But ousting Saddam is a big part of winning the war. I suspect Osama and Mullah Omar and Zawahari are all dead.”
Whoa! One of the right-wing’s most brilliant minds at work!
September 18th, 2009 at 2:38 pmFred Barnes is a perfect reverse barometer, if he says something, you could bet he is wrong.
The radical right continues the assault on reason and reasonableness. Worse than the Cuban missile crises? I remember that, I was in grade school, I remember thinking I only had 3 days to live, and I still had to go to school.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:41 pmPeople like Storm are working at a disadvantage. All they have is their talking points. They’re obviously not the kind of people who take the time to check the things their “leaders” tell them. If Storm were that kind of person, he wouldn’t be so foolish as to bring up such an embarrassing example to somehow try to prove his point, whatever it is.
But, this one kind of takes the cake for cluelessness. You’ve even got the photo of Rumsfeld shaking Saddam’s hand AFTER the gassing! Storm, do yourself a favor and wise up.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:42 pmPutting missiles on the borders of a country like the Soviets did to the US is in Cuba is analogous indeed , in a 180 degree sort of way !
September 18th, 2009 at 2:43 pmWe ARE the Russians in the example Barnes makes .
Wiz: “I remember that, I was in grade school, I remember thinking I only had 3 days to live, and I still had to go to school.”
Exactly. We were doing “duck and cover” drills. Don’t even try to pretend that some two-bit dictator like Saddam Hussein was dangerous. That should have never flew for ANYONE who lived through the Cold War and definitely anyone old or smart enough to understand WWII.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:45 pmHow can we fight them over there if we don’t fight them over there?
You can get a good look at a t-bone by sticking your head up a butcher’s ass but .. (uhh ..) ..
Whatever.
September 18th, 2009 at 2:48 pmIf FoxSnooze ever boots Little Freddy, there’s a spot for him on Sesame Street . . . Barnsey’s Blarney brought to you by the color “red”, the number “0″ and the word “st-o-o-o-o-pid” featuring Little Freddy Barnes with guest appearances by Condoleeeeeeeeeeezza Rice, Johnny (”Got Milk?”) Bolton, Billy “The Bloody” Kristol and Darth Cheney.
Gee, speaking of Condoleeeeeezza, where’s she been lately? Golly, she’s a Russian expert. You’d think FoxSnooze would be all over her about this topic. Maybe she doesn’t have the “correct” opinion about it, ya think?
September 18th, 2009 at 2:49 pmFred and chuck are the same guys who were so confident about Iraq and the WMD’s.
Yeah, we should really listen to them.
Besides is Russia really a threat? Russia has serious problems internally (corruption of government being the worse problem) that will keep them from being a threat. It is more likely we will have skirmishes with China when they begin to seriously compete with us over natural resources (oil and natural gas etc.).
September 18th, 2009 at 2:57 pmright wingers are so easily frightened
poor little guys
September 18th, 2009 at 3:16 pmThe wailing and gnashing of Krauthammer’s teeth is a pitiful spectacle to watch. Only Frodo Barnes lamentations overshadow the shameful fearmongering…
September 18th, 2009 at 3:36 pmDoesn’t Barnes claim every two months that weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq?
Moroni is baloney, and Beck is dreck.
September 18th, 2009 at 3:39 pmtalking loud, ain’t sayin nuthin.
so what’s new?
September 18th, 2009 at 3:41 pmJust what we need — more armchair patriots who think they know more about national security than the President and Gates.
September 18th, 2009 at 3:57 pmI’m a little confused.
1) I thought we defeated “the evil empire.” Why are we still terrified of it?
September 18th, 2009 at 4:07 pm2) If we are talking about “President Bush’s plan to construct a missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic,” shouldn’t the right wing be in hysterics over Bush’ failure to implement such in two terms?
The big defense contractors and their GOP supporters are upset because this unnecessary boondoggle will not pour billions of tax dollars into their pockets..
September 18th, 2009 at 4:49 pmFred Barnes, National Security Idiot, rides again. What the frack does he think the effect of the Cuban Missile Crisis was? World War III or some such thing?
The Cuban Missile Crisis was resolved because Kennedy and Khruschev managed to get past the tough guy bullshit and actually NEGOTIATE on behalf of our respective nation’s best interest. Our interest would certainly NOT have been served by allowing the Soviets to proceed with putting nuclear armed ballistic missiles in Cuba. The Soviets felt a similar threat from our missiles in Turkey, in addition to having apparently promised the Cubans that they’d do something to prevent a re-run of the Bay of Pigs, more particularly, a rerun supported fully by our military.
So just what is Barnes thesis here? I doubt that he gave any thought to the substance of his Cuban Missile Crisis analogy. He’s just trying to poop on President Obama’s decision.
September 18th, 2009 at 5:12 pmReichwingnuts are paranoid idiots.
September 18th, 2009 at 5:27 pmSTORM says:
Yeah you brainwashed moron. And we were SO mad about that Reagan STOPPED a UN investigation about it. We DIDNT even break diplomatic relations with him and we gave him a low interest one billion dollar loan AFTERwards. Yeah he remained an ALLY. You do realize how stupid and pathetic you are dont you?
September 18th, 2009 at 5:48 pmf$&%*ing idiots get mad at any move the president makes that DOESNT cause an unnecessary war.
Good move mr obama. Im sure we’d be pissed if north korea put sam silos along the mexican side of our southern border.
September 18th, 2009 at 6:39 pmRE: ElBruce @ 52:
But….Butbutbut….I thought ol’ Stormfront _liked_ Hitler.
September 18th, 2009 at 7:31 pmNeocons minds is just too small to grasp sophisticated decisions. It’s not their fault that they’re idiots.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:09 pmSomeone tell Fred that it isn’t 1962 anymore.
September 19th, 2009 at 11:42 amRepiggies, your cries and idiotic fear are, as usual, 100% incorrect:
Russia Scraps Missile Deployment after Obama Cancels Missile Shield
Russia says it has scrapped plans to deploy missiles in a region near Poland after U.S. President Barack Obama canceled plans for a missile defense system in Central Europe.
LINK
September 19th, 2009 at 11:45 am@ 85. Hawkeye says: Someone tell Fred that it isn’t 1962 anymore. September 19th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Sheeyit, from what I see in the blogpost, it wasn’t even 1962 in 1962 – Fred apparently has little or no comprehension of what was actually going on, so the 1962 in his mind has very little relationship to the actual events of 1962.
It’s really a far fetched stretch to try to pull an analogy between the Cuban Missile Crisis and our deciding to not locate a Ground Based Mid-course Interceptor system in Poland and the Czech Republic, unless Barnes wants to stand the events of 1962 on their head and put us, our country, in the role of the Soviet Union, and the Russians in our role of that earlier period.
September 19th, 2009 at 1:19 pmAs a Republican I find this Barnes statement about the missile defense system to be really stupid and totally based on his far right wing Republican ideology. Many Republicans like me want the war rhetoric cooled. I guess Barnes thinks that our Defense Secretary that, last I checked, worked for Bush quite satisfactorily, is somehow remiss in his advice. Of course no deployment of missiles that does not totally threaten the Soviet would ever be approved by a war monger like Barnes. Frankly, I hope that President Obama and our great Sec of Defense totally ignore this dolt.
September 20th, 2009 at 12:45 amsquidbilly says:
Besides is Russia really a threat?
It is if you desperately need a threat to keep “the base” fearful and jumping at your command, yeah. Swarthy dudes in turbans with bombs is wearing off already.
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AmericanDan says:
For the most part, Obama seems to think you dispatch enemy ideals with giving them a friggin candy bar
Please explain how not nuking someone = giving them a candy bar. Include diagrams so I can follow such a complicated concept.
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AmericanDan says:
you can see the typical response such as from osama bin laden’s statement that our current president is “weak” and helpless, which is very true.
Apparently I hold less stock in Bin Laden’s opinion than you do. Do you get his newsletter? By the way, do you have his address? There are some people I heard are trying to get in touch with him.
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AmericanDan says:
Our real enemies all look at Obama as a gutless wonder…
Who are “our real enemies” in your scenario there? The Republican party?
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AmericanDan says:
You do not win wars or have great security by being soft and wanting to pat your enemy on the head.
Which is why I will settle for nothing less than the complete destruction of you and all your filthy treasonous kind. Like cockroaches, all right wingers must be completely eliminated from the public sphere.
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AmericanDan says:
I would NEVER want any other nation nor terrorist to invade the USA, but I have often wondered…
This is a BLATANTLY obvious lie. You dream of nothing less, every night. Hell, you probably masturbate to it.
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AmericanDan says:
…how they would all respond to this nation actually being attacked by a mass force of troops from a unfriendly nation?
Before I entertain your “Red Dawn” fantasy, please tell me exactly which unfriendly nation you had in mind? Canada? It’s Canada, isn’t it? I knew it! F’in Canucks!!!
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AmericanDan says:
…lets make them be the criminals and give those terrorist all sorts of rights that are actually only lawfully reserved to individuals that are in a recognized uniformed military per the Geneva Convention
You should read that “Geneva Convention” thing sometime. Funny thing, it doesn’t only apply to uniformed personnel. It says so and everything.
Wait, you haven’t actually read it, have you?
Oh, that’s just pathetic. Sorry.
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AmericanDan says:
…lets not care that those same bags of dirt cut the heads off people ON CAMERA when they capture and torture people…
Hey, if you had someone in custody who knew when a nuclear bomb would go off and the only way you could get the information to save American lives (including your wife and children) was to cut off their head ON CAMERA, would you have the guts to do it? Would you?!?
I can play this game all day, yo.
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AmericanDan says:
Why does not Obama just send billions of tax payers money to each and every single city in the entire world, spend trillions and trillions of dollars, give it away to everyone everywhere? WTF why not? The USA taxpayers can handle it right? Give everyone everything, “free”? Do away with the borders, do away with the flag, do away with the ‘in god we trust”, do away with GOD, make our national motto, In FAG WE LOVE, Dancing queen our national Athem, kill off anyone that does not agree with all your policy, make it illgal for anyone to exercise the constitution, and declare himself KING?
Sounds awesome. Frankly I don’t know why he doesn’t do it, if he has the power to. I totally would. I hereby nominate this rant portion as the greatest wingnut contribution to freestyle poetry of the 21st Century. Mind you, the 21st Century is yet young, but this is pretty awesome nonetheless.
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Also: “WAAAAH!” <== one-word summary of everything AmericanDream just said.
September 20th, 2009 at 3:42 amAmericanDan says:
I only got half way through the first paragraph of your stupidity and delusions before my braincells threatened to commit mass suicide if I kept reading. You are a liar a fool and a moron. You are too stupid to be taken seriously and too brainwashed to be allowed to vote. You have turned your brain over to rightwing screechmonkeys and they have turned it into oatmeal. You are stupid. Your rant was stupid, uninformed garbage. You dont know what you are talking about and at your level of stupidity and obvious inability to inform yourself you arent going to get any better. Seek professional help
September 20th, 2009 at 12:06 pmAmericanDan says:
There is plenty dishonest as well as astonishingly delusional. The monumental stupidity of pretending that diplomacy is weakness is so inane only the most ignorant moron imaginable would take it seriously. You are stupid Dan. You are what is wrong with America. You are a brainwashed piece of garbage regurgating what Rush told you to think.
You have spent too many nights crying and materbating to Red Dawn. It has effected your already substandard brain. We have the most dominant military in the history of the world. That is the opposite of being weak. Only someone as vastly stupid as you would think we also have to act like a bully. You are like Arnold Swartznegger running around the beach beating people for their pocketchange in order to buy more steroids. Look dude you are a moron and you are NEVER going to make sense till you have some dim idea what youa re talking about and as stupid as you are that is most likely to be NEVER
September 21st, 2009 at 4:28 amThank you for your sharing.!
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:34 amAbandonment of missile defense is not the only national security area where the Obama has been derelict in its duty. estetik cerrahi
September 24th, 2009 at 9:40 am