Bachmann heaps praise on O’Reilly and Beck: That’s where people want to go to find the truth.
Bachmann heaps praise on O’Reilly and Beck: That’s where people want to go to find the truth.
In an interview with Fox News, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) kissed up to Bill O’Reilly and his audience, telling producer Jesse Watters, “The Factor is the factor. That’s what’s important.” Bachmann then showered O’Reilly and Glenn Beck with her praise:
People vote with their feet. And they love Bill O’Reilly; they love Glenn Beck. They love the shows that are on Fox. That’s what matters. Because people want to go where they can find truth. They obviously aren’t finding truth over on some of these other channels.
Watch it:
Bachmann has gone on Fox News to claim health care reform is unconstitutional, that the Census is dangerous because it was used to intern the Japanese, and that Alaskan caribou favor oil drilling because they like the the warmth of the pipeline. Together, the Fox News network and Bachmann create a very “truthy” tag-team.
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People vote with their feet.
I see why she’s confused…
People using their clumsy feet to mark ballots is the only reasonable explanation for Bachmann being elected in the first place.
/sarc
I assume that since al Punto has better ratings than FNS, Bachmann believes it to have more ‘truth,’ right?
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:25 pmPeople vote with their feet.
did she sleep through the election?
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:27 pmOh please go to Beck and O’reilly for the truth??? For the propaganda spiced with insanity maybe. The TRUTH not so much
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:28 pmThis stupid biatch wouldn’t know the truth even if it bit her on the nose. How can so many Minnisotans have been so dumb as to have elected her?? She is a female Dan Quail or worse yet a dumber version of Sara Palin and I didn’t thing that possible.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:29 pmMay I take a moment to do a little casting?
Michele Bachmann as Nurse Ratchet.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:29 pmPeople vote with their feet.
What does that even mean?
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:29 pmI’ll bet she thinks Huck will pick her for Veep when Fox tries to get itself a President elected in 2012.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:29 pmShe said that is where people want to go to find the truth. She didn’t say they found it there.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:31 pmHasn’t this bimbette had her 15 minutes of fame yet?
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:31 pmAbout those ratings Bill’O. Last time I checked American Idol is the highest rated show on TV. Does that mean it is best program on network TV? No, it means it is the most watched not the best. Just like your “news” show is the most watched cable news show not the best on cable.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:35 pmPerverts love Bill O’Reilly; Idiots love Glenn Beck. Idiots and Perverts love the shows that are on Fox. Because people want to go where they can find truth.
New Speak – Truth; a lie when told again and again becomes truth.
So has Bill 0 called Michelle for a little falafel shower sex yet?
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:35 pmLittle Shelley Bachmann is a stark-raving mad lunatic. That’s why she praises Glenn Bleeeeech! Birds of a feather flock together.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:36 pm***
shouldn’t she be spending her time planning
a revolt of the pod people on planet altair 6?
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death to the empire!
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September 22nd, 2009 at 3:36 pmSounds like Shelly has been talking to her breakfast cereal again.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:36 pmPeople vote with their feet.
Is that how Republicans do it? No wonder they’ve been losing elections. It’s much easier to fill out a ballot using your hands.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:36 pmBachmann! You can’t handle the truth!
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:38 pmFilling that giant hole of stupidity left wide open with the absence of Sarah Gump Palin. Thanks Bachmann for stepping up to the challenge of filling those giant idiot shoes.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm***
#15,
they don’t have hands.
*
they have claws!
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September 22nd, 2009 at 3:39 pmGarbage in: Beck, O’Really, Rush, Palin……
Garbage out: Michele Bachman’s mouth.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:39 pmI’d never watch O’Reilly, Beck, Hannity or any of the other tools at FOX, but if she ever gets a show I’m there. She’d make Beck look like the sanest man on the planet. Beck would have a breakdown just trying to compete with her.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:40 pmlivelongandprosper says:
People vote with their feet.
What does that even mean?
She’s referring to the only Godly way of voting – by standing on your hands and trying to operate the voting machine with your feet, as the Founding Fathers intended.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:41 pmWTF did she mean by the “the factor is the factor.”
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:41 pmWhen you vote with your feet you have to lay down on your back, spread your legs and hope you can reach the voting machine before you are raped by a RePugniScum.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:41 pmFox does so well with that coveted “deranged lunatic” demographic. . . which apparently consists of a bunch of drooling trailer dwellers with footprints all over their television remotes.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:41 pmRUCerious says:
May I take a moment to do a little casting?
Michele Bachmann as Nurse Ratchet.
– - Victoria Jackson as Michelle Bachmann.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:42 pmBildo loves jacking it to those ratings numbers, doesn’t he?
Funny thing, ratings don’t equal truth or facts.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:42 pmPeople vote with their feet.
What does that even mean?
– - Well, I walk to my polling place, usually on my feet.
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“Bachmann then showered O’Reilly and Glenn Beck with her praise: “People vote with their feet. And they love Bill O’Reilly; they love Glenn Beck. They love the shows that are on Fox. That’s what matters. Because people want to go where they can hear what they want to hear… “”
There, fixed it. Dingbat doesn’t understand that Beck’s and O’Really?’s listeners have a serious case of Stockholm Syndrome and while their adrenaline levels go through the roof with each bout of fearmongering, that’s what they’re used to and that’s what gives them comfort, so back they come for another fearmongering lie. Every day. Will they develop tolerance, and need a bigger lie to get the same comfort hit? Probably. “Truth” has nothing to do with it in the agit-prop world.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 pmAnd what, exactly what, “truth” would that be?
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‘People vote with their feet’??????????? WTF does that mean?
Might as well since they don’t think? Low point analogy? They ‘kick it’?
People want to go where they can listen to the ‘truth’ they want to hear. People look for reinforcement, not truth.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:47 pmgee… LiberalLinebacker sure doesn’t sound very “liberal”… but I guess he MUST be, since his name is “LIBERAL Linebacker”.
Right?
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:49 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I think she’s talking about the massive exodus from the Republican Party between 2005 and 2008.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:49 pmCheck this story out on HP
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/22/whoops-anti-acorn-bill-ro_n_294949.html
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:50 pmconservative guy, that was the worst Jack Nicholson impression I’ve ever heard.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:50 pmRonk says:
well, considering that Heroes got more viewers than O’Reilly and Beck combined…I’m going to vote for a time-travelling nip in 2012.
That’s nice. The rest of us will form our opinions based on the observation of the world around us, not whichever TV show has the highest ratings.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:50 pmI will bet even Beck and O’Reilly are secretly wondering about Backmann the nut job.
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People don’t really want truth. They want rationalizations. FOX gives people rationalizations for their fears, worries, and anger. Then, FOX personnel stoke those emotions to make money and gain power. Finally, the FOX people look to the ratings to rationalize their own actions. Its a vicious vicious circle.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:51 pmShe is as nutty as a Planter’s Assortment of cocktail nuts.
Nutty, nut, nut…
What bothers me more than her are the morons in her district that keep putting her back in Congress.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:52 pmSince Formula One manages to attract six times more television viewers to each of its Grand Prix weekends than the Super Bowl would you also argue that people think that Formula One is at least six times more entertaining and AWESOME than football, aaronk?
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:53 pmI thought we got rid of Punked By Fred – whoops I mean aaronk.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:55 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
The Righties want a foreigner’s tv station telling Americans what Americans should think.
THAT is funny.
Hey – cg, and awrongk, and friends –
you like Fox – move to Australia.
Don’t pretend to be patriots while you stick up for your foreign propaganda operation.
It makes real Americans really mad.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:55 pmYou lose in the first sentence, and yet, you went on!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:56 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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cg, erin, qwiki…
the crazy is back.
:)
qwiki,
put a plastic garment bag over your head and write
a 3,000 word essay on glenn beck and mormonism.
have it posted here no later then 5:30 tonight.
*
carry on.
:=|
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:57 pmI think we’re beginning to narrow in on that elusive answer to the question I keep posing to wingnuts whenever they crow about Faux Opinion Channel’s ratings.
Apparently, higher ratings means more truth.
Of course, that conclusion necessarily suggests that boradcast network newscasts, which consistently draw higher viewerships than Faux programming, contain even more truth than Faux does.
And since those broadcasts are universally castigated by conservatives as “liberally biased” that must mean that THE TRUTH is also “liberally biased”. Just like we’ve been saying.
Thanks, wingnuts!
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livelongandprosper says
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
People vote with their feet.
What does that even mean?
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Perhaps in the Bachmann home, that’s how they operate the television remote.
Which is understandable, when you consider their wrists are probably still recovering from being slit…
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:01 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Mikeua26 says:
If you agree with everything that Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi says or does, this is a clear sign that you have your ability to think rationally.
Okay? Thanks, I guess?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:02 pmOkay, I’ll bite.
As one who recently completed an immunization program in the last year, what is this forcing people to take unsafe vaccines???
1) Who is forcing? And how does this pertain to health care reform?
2) Please define and explain what vaccines are “unsafe”.
I think you in advance for your time and effort in responding.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:03 pmTo the best of my knowledge the census was used to help intern the Japanese,
However so long as Daniel Inouye is a Senator I doubt such things will happen again.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:04 pmBachmann has gone on Fox News to claim…that Alaskan caribou favor oil drilling because they like the the warmth of the pipeline.
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And precisely how many caribou did Bachmann observe and/or interview in order to arrive at that conclusion? Sorry, Michelle, but speaking to Caribou Barbie (AKA Sarah Palin) doesn’t count.
For that matter, I’m sure that a great many animal research scientists would be very interested to know the means through which Bachmann managed to communicate with the caribou and uncover their opinion on the pipeline — I wasn’t aware that they spoke English (or indeed, any human language native to that region) or that human beings have the capability to speak caribou. Or perhaps they communicated with her via telepathy? No…the simplest and most logical explanation is that this is merely another manifestation of Bachmann’s total irrationality — or at the very least, of her need to justify her own wishes and feelings by conveniently projecting and attributing them to another party (in this case, oddly enough, an animal species which is not even sentient as far as we can tell).
Good grief…this woman really is a few crayons short of a box, isn’t she?
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aaronk,
about what you said in #29, please read what I said in #10.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:05 pmwipe your mouth, batshit bachmann. you got some mormon spoo on it.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:05 pm***
#53,
“I had my laugh for the week.”
*
have you ever cried?
:(
“you’re not alone.”
:)
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:05 pmYou’re entitled to your opinion, Mikeua26, but since you and LL are a matched pair of libertarians pretending to be liberals, your stinging critique of those of us who don’t completely distrust our government as “mindless sheep” really doesn’t advance your argument any.
If you actually have an argument, that is.
But since you’re basing your condemnation of the “wannabes” of this site on our “rubber stamp” approval of everything said by the President or the Secretary of State, and the evidence that this is a false characterization is easily accessible, it kind of demonstrates that your purported identity, while more clever than the standard right-winger pretending to be a lefty, is no more genuine.
But you do throw some spice into the mix when you’re here. Just don’t expect anybody who pays attention to take you seriously.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm“Bachmann heaps praise on O’Reilly and Beck: That’s where people want to go to find the truth.”
Yup, and transmitted down to Earth by the Queen of Planet Wingnuttia. Thanks TP for the psycho talk news for Tuesday. Stay classy Shelly.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:07 pmTrueLiberty says,
for eight years i hugged 43’s nuts and now i’m projecting my actions by calling others sheep
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:07 pmApparently Micheles adulation of those afore mentioned nemotodes,hasn’t gotten her any closer to the truth she has gotten to the meds she needs to control her batsh!t crazy.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:07 pm***
#60,
but that’s not true
when you’re here, is it?
:=
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:07 pmAh, the whole Libertarian Liberal contingent is here, and the circle jerk has begun.
Funny how often they all show up at the same time, isn’t it?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:07 pmGood. I hope this a$$h0le will now go away for a week, or month or year or for life.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:08 pmspoken with authority but no facts.
The tunnel visioned people like you are admittedly outsiders.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:09 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
hey mike
thanks for voting Nader.
you really showed them.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:09 pmhey STORM,
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:10 pmyou ever going to explain to me how “tort reform” is going to cure all of our health care woes, pussyboy?
Hmm… let’s use as our definition for “liberal” the one advanced by a government-hating every-man-for-himself libertarian.
What could go wrong?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:10 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
No you dimwit, it’w where the wingnuts go to get their paranoia fix and false sense of outrage reinforced.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:12 pmunfocused rancor will get us everywhere.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:12 pmThis statement is undeniably true.
However, when one pretends that it also applies to the community of TP, as you seem to be trying to do, one forfeits his right to be taken seriously as a political thinker of any merit, or even any kind of astute observer of the world around him.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:13 pmIt’s neccessary for teabaggers to watch faux daily in order to maintain an adequate level of paranoia and distorted perspective. They make up that socialist scare crap to raise sympathy and money for PAC’s, just like they used to show 9/11 and Bin Laudin clips to validate the extortion of our economy for war profiteers.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:13 pmAnyone that bases their reality on one television network is either simple-minded or just too lazy to think for themselves.
The Federal Reserve Bank in place of freedom and prosperity, these issues have been ignored by those with real power who we voted for.
Hmm, they haven’t been ignored. Just considered and rejected… wanna talk about it or just tell us all how we aren’t ‘real liberals’ again?
’cause when you show us ‘fake liberals’ how it’s done it really shows how ‘open’ and ‘critical’ your thought process is! Thanks, REAL LIBERAL!
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:14 pmIs Batshit Bachmann one of the right’s “hot women?”
Maybe that’s why the piss-soaked trolls are flocking to this thread…
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:14 pmtombaker says:
unfocused rancor will get us everywhere.
Best comment EVA!
I want a t-shirt…
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:16 pmI have a feeling that you’re wildly misconstruing whichever statement of Fred’s with which you think you’re agreeing.
I’m pretty sure Fred would not say that TP is the “club of McCainites” or of “Bushites”.
I’m pretty sure Fred would not casually equate Liberals and Libertarians as you are doing.
But then why quibble over details?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:16 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Can anyone here explain why STORM DRAIN insist on being stupid to the core, in public, every phucking day, after day, after day?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:17 pm#33 Quickvote..Glad you’re gone and don’t come back. Anyone who lumps Paul Wellstone in with Bachmann and Ventura is as dumb as Bachmann.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:17 pmCrazy Shelly knows her batscat.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:18 pmMikeua26 says:
If you agree with everything that Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi says or does, this is a clear sign that you have your ability to think rationally.
one has clearly lost their ability to discern between good and evil if they blindly follow any politician or party without being critical of any of their actions or politics.
So you’re accusing us of having an “ability to think rationally” but not having the “ability to discern between good and evil”, is that right?
Maybe the next time the highly-rated Fox News gives you some sure-fire zingers to post here, you should actually ask yourself if they’re vaguely coherent first.
Or are you just one of those pathetic “gaffe machines”?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:19 pmI wonder how much longer her constituents will tolerate her silliness.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:19 pmaaronk says
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
well, considering that O’Reilly and Beck individually get more viewers than Olbermann, Maddow, and Mathews combined….I would say that people at least know where to get a higher degree of truth.
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THAT’S your definition of “truth”? Who gets the most viewers?
Following this logic, the Pharaoh had a higher degree of truth than Moses did, and the Pharisees had a higher degree of truth than Jesus did.
Scoreboards don’t mean diddley when it comes to truth, accuracy, or quality. Otherwise, we could claim that the Big Mac is a superior sandwich to the Hardee’s Thickburger simply because more of them are sold.
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Same reason snails find their way into my dog’s outside water bowl day after day.
They know nothing else.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:20 pmZooey,
The white-wing loves that “deer caught in the headlights” look in their “women.” It’s like hunting.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:20 pmI am comparing cable news shows in similar time slots, and O’Reilly & Beck dominate the leftwinged propadanda shows, such as Maddow & Olberman.
Well, I’m comparing sporting events in similar time slots and FORMULA ONE receives 6 times as many viewers as the SUPER BOWL!!!
That means that FORMULA ONE is SIX TIMES more AWESOME, right?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:21 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
thanks belaccifer.
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tombaker says:
thanks belaccifer.
Seriously… slap Beck or Bachmann’s face on there and put that quote on a t-shirt and I can sell thousands!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 pmbzb says:
WTF did she mean by the “the factor is the factor.”
That message wasn’t for the likes of us. The alien infiltrators know what she was talking about.
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LiberalLinebacker says:
The Federal Reserve is technically Unconstitutional and the Federal Reserve Act was not even passed by Congress. Even Woodrow Wilson lamented on the corruption and the whole Federal Reserve scam.
Speaking of crazy… I’ll go look at Wikipedia to check your “Truth.”
Is Wikipedia in on the conspiracy too or should I keep looking for “the Truth?”
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LiberalLinebacker says:
What’s Uncostitutional is forcing people to take unsafe vaccines, forcing them to pay for other people’s health care, you are either in or out. If you are out you are on your own, if you are in then you pay for the government insurance just like you would for private.
I find it cute how anything you don’t like is “unconsitutional.” I bet you’ve never read the thing even once. Something you should probably know, the Constitution is a document that contains words, and the words say things. In fact, the words pretty much specify what’s Constitutional and what’s not. One of the things specified in there is that only the Supreme Court of the United States of America gets to decide what’s Constitutional and what’s not. Not you, not me, not the guy in an alley who lives in a cardboard box and wears a tinfoil hat – oh wait, that’s you again.
But I agree that you’re either in or you’re out. Of America. Bye.
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aaronk says:
well, considering that O’Reilly and Beck individually get more viewers…
American Idol gets more viewers than all of those combined. Does that make it a more accurate source of current events information? Wingnut logic says “yes.”
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conservative guy says:
Liberals don’t watch Fox because they can’t handle the truth.
What “Truths” are on FAUX News that aren’t reported on any other networks or cable channels? And why don’t any of the other networks or cable channels report these “Truths?” Because they’re all lying?
Hint: if everybody in the world but you is crazy, you should take a long, hard look at the possibility that you’re the one who’s crazy.
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TrueLiberty says:
This place is basically a rubber stamp of approval for anything Obama does…
Huge mistake to make there. We have sharply criticized Obama on DO/DT, DOMA, FISA, and a host of other important policy positions. You’re not paying close enough attention; I guess you’ve been too busy lecturing us on not making blanket assumptions, huh?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
97-
i’d be dumber than you,
to give up what we’ve gotten,
over some disagreement re: details.
you really should stop assuming that everyone else operates at your level.
and you really should worry about the fragmentation of the R base more than you worry about the D’s.
if you keep that up, you’ll just continue to lose and lose and lose.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:28 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
o mikey,
your camo was kind of working their for a minute,
but now you’ve shown yourself to be just another dittohead.
i’m sorry.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:29 pmTrueLiberty, I don’t think you and I mean the same things when we talk about “Liberals”.
Real Liberals are very welcome here. Libertarians who are honest about their beliefs and can discuss them with intelligence and respect for others would also be welcomed here, but I’m afraid I haven’t yet seen one. All I’ve seen are Republicans who hide their shame under the guise of Libertarianism or those like you and your friends who claim that THEY are the real “Liberals”, even as they espouse standard right-wing talking points.
Yes, the discourse gets rough here pretty quickly. Some of that is undoubtedly the fault of the community here. I’d like to see more reasoned discussion and when people show up and attempt it, I’m usually willing to give them respect and the benefit of any doubt longer than most. But sadly almost all of them prove unworthy of that trust very quickly. Whether it’s a combative attitude (insulting all regular TPers as “sheep” for example) or simply an inability to maintain and defend consistent standards of logic, reason or philosophy, we don’t get much satisfying discussion around here these days.
You, Linebacker and Mikeua certainly haven’t shown any desire to engage in a real discussion, at any rate.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:30 pmWhen did whiny Benn Gleck Libertarian apologists become so prominent on TP threads?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:30 pmAnd, just for the record, I wasn’t a huge Wellstone fan and can’t think of an unkind word about him. Jesse Venture committed the “unforgivable sin” of calling the lying scum in the press “lying scum”. He was also right more often then not.
Crazy Shelly is a drooling buffoon who embarrasses my home state and the U.S. House on a daily basis. She may just be the most wildly partisan and intellectually crippled member of the entire House and Senate.
She’s also a well known hypocrite on every issue from funneling dirty money to a tax front that financed her campaign to receiving federal subsidies for her “farm” while b!tching about ALL federal subsidies. She’s a crook, a liar, a charlatan, and a fool. In other words, the perfect prototype of the modern Republican woman.
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Mikeua26 says:
ElBruce
If you go to wikipedia for truth or any information, we all already know you are moron
Not true. Wikipedia can be a great source of information… the problem is looking at any source uncritically, which is what you SAID you were against but your continued posts seem to indicate that what you are really against is anyone who disagrees with you…
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:31 pmmy calendar says nothing about any
political halloween
on this date.
anyone else?
(and why are all the trick-or-treaters dressed as dolts?)
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:31 pmYeah, because we all know there’s NO information at wikipedia.
None at all.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:32 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
daronk says
well, considering that O’Reilly and Beck individually get more viewers than Olbermann, Maddow, and Mathews combined….I would say that people at least know where to get a higher degree of truth.
American Idol?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:33 pmLemmings want to follow other lemmings
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:33 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I note mikeua attacked the source (wikipedia) but didn’t actually identify any flaws in the information that ElBruce found there…
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:34 pmIndependent studies suggest that the average global viewership is just over 100 million, the vast majority of whom are U.S. viewers.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl#Television_coverage_and_ratings
Formula One? 600 million per race…
http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=100719
So now you agree that F1 is 6 times more awesome!!!
AWESOME.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:34 pmAaron, there are more people that play Warcraft than watch Spin Wreck and Dimbulb combined
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:34 pmi think we’re being treated to a theatrical recitation,
starring Jon Voigt, Kirk Cameron, and the ugly Baldwin.
too bad they’re only as talented in writing as they are on-screen.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:35 pmMikeua26 says:
I also know that this site was backed by large $ from George Soros and we all know what kind of scum he is.
No, we don’t know. Please, by all means, come out and tell us exactly which demographic group he belongs to that you believe to be “scum”.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:36 pmTrueLiberty says:
Oh Yes and we all know the info at Wikipedia is always 100% accurate and unbiased truth…
Ahh, I see your CRITICAL THINKING skills are as sharp as ever.
Please show any instance of ralph (or any other poster, really) arguing that Wikipedia is ‘always 100% accurate…’
You guys are a joke, you know that right?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:36 pmThere is objective proof that Fox News is full of it.
There was a study done of people’s knowledge of public affairs as correlated with where they got their news. It turned out the more you got your news from TV, the lower the score.
And of course, Fox News outdid everyone. Viewers who got their news mostly from Fox were totally out to lunch. Like we needed proof.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:36 pmWait!
If we are correlating viewership (fans) to celebrities as “truth”, does that make Michael Jackson better than Pink Floyd???
‘Scuse me, I don’t think so!
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:37 pmI made no such claim, nor did ElBruce. Your cohort mikeua claimed that anybody who went to wikipedia for information was an idiot.
Yet ElBruce retrieved some information there (proving that there was information there), and mikeua made no mention of the accuracy of that information, only impugned the source of it.
If it is inaccurate, let’s see where the inaccuracy lies and then judge the quality of the information.
If it’s accurate, then what’s the beef?
Careful… your projection is getting a little bright now. We can see the light stream above our heads. You’re in danger of wrecking the illusion you’re trying so hard to create.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:38 pmDRxJ says:
Wait!
If we are correlating viewership (fans) to celebrities as “truth”, does that make Michael Jackson better than Pink Floyd???
Sure does, DRxJ… and we all know that ‘TITANIC’ had the most ‘truth’ of any film EVA MADE!!!
/sarc
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pmMikeua26 says:
You have embraced Doublethink and are awaiting your second cup of Kool Aid as you clearly drank the first one with haste.
Oh, I get it! When you said that we all “have [the] ability to think rationally”, you meant to say the exact opposite of that! Sorry for the mix-up! :)
But in the future, instead of throwing incontinent hissy fits because people don’t re-write your posts to make sense, it might be more productive to actually post things that make sense in the first place.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pmI can’t imagine a U.S. Patriot, of sound mind, who isn’t insulted that this gibbering moron has a vote in the U.S. House. It’s obscene.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pmThey came with a wedge,
and left with a wedgie.
i’m sorry.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:39 pmPP – how’s the squirrel-hutin’ business, ya big’ol puppy?
keeping those Huckabees fat and sassy, i presume…?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:40 pmThose costumes and that makeup really wasn’t convincing was it? They can’t disguise their voices.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:41 pmPat Pomery says:
belaccifer lacca says:
I’ve seen some pretty asinine arguments from Fox haters, but, yours take the cake. Formula racing is shown all over the world for free. Fox News not so much.
Ahh, so ‘TITANIC’ is the greatest film ever made though, right?
I mean, it wasn’t free to see, was it?
Also- isn’t the Super Bowl shown for free?
Wasn’t I comparing Formula One and the Super Bowl?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:42 pmI have to ask ’cause you guys seem to have all the ‘critical thinking skills’ sown up…
Pee Pee, the phrase of the day is Critical Thinking. Try it sometime.
Belac was not comparing viewership of F1 racing to Faux Opinion Channel.
He was comparing F1 viewership to football. Try to keep up.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:43 pmBachmann praise = kiss of death
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:44 pmThen there’s her little, well documented and skirting legality, trick of getting endorsements from the pulpits of her district’s churches combined with her frightening insistence on acting out what the voices in her head, who she calls “God”, tell her. She does this, mind you, despite what the rest of us recognize as objective reality.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:44 pmhey PP,
do you think Crazy Shelly,
or Sarah Surrender,
should run with Huck, to “take back America” for you and Rupe??
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:45 pmBachmann: full of ignorance & stupidity, promoter of violence & racism. A deadly combination. Toss her out, for the good of the country.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:45 pm“People vote with their feet. And they love Bill O’Reilly; they love Glenn Beck. They love the shows that are on Fox. That’s what matters. Because people want to go where they can find truth. They obviously aren’t finding truth over on some of these other channels.“
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Sorry, Bachmann…but no. In this day and age of 24-hour news and multiple news outlets all competing for the same story (which has prompted some news outlets to tailor or “spin” their reports in order to attract and capture a specific target audience), this is neither an accurate nor even a rational assumption to make. Social psychologists have for many years now observed a phenomenon which is unfortunately very common among human beings, one which they have labeled cognitive bias. One manifestation of cognitive bias is the conviction that whatever you wish or believe to be true must be true (sometimes for no other reason than because you believe it) — and, in turn, that anyone who agrees with you must also be telling the truth. The stronger the belief — regardless of whether it has any basis in truth or not — the stronger the cognitive bias and the more likely it is that any facts which do not support the belief system will be ignored, dismissed, or ridiculed. As an example, someone who believes beyond the shadow of a doubt that the moon is made of green cheese is not likely to think highly of a news story which discussed the geological composition of the moon — even if there is no evidence whatsoever for their own beliefs and substantial evidence for the competing theory. The fact that a certain number of people gravitate to FOX is not by itself a reliable indicator of that network’s veracity. What it does reliably suggest is that their network appeals to people with a specific cognitive bias, which may or may not have any basis in fact. The number of people who support a certain belief is also no guarantee of its veracity — consider the number of people who used to believe that the sun orbits the earth, or that the earth is flat…
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:48 pmralph nets a down vote….hmmmm….
i was a little closer to the truth than i thought??
is that you, mr. voigt??
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:48 pmPat Pomery says:
ralph the wonder llama says
Wrong. It used that same lame ass “argument” the other day trying to minimize Fox News (#1) viewers. Try and keep up. :)
Can you read my argument? Can I repeat it for you? Do you need a little time to catch up? ;)
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:49 pmI the Super Bowl shown for free, PP?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:52 pmPee Pee has a hard time with logic and reason.
It’s that pesky “liberal bias” of logic and reason that trips him up every time.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:54 pmWell, when they start slitting their wrists, Shelly, thats when I will join the Spin Wreck rodeo clown show with Bellow Really
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:55 pmIf a “news channel” has to brag about their own ratings, it tells me that ratings is the only thing they can go on anymore.
I personally never see ratings as sellers of “truth”. You have to read the opinions of those NOT watching the cable news channels to get the real feel of ratings. You can brag that you have the most viewers, but what if the opinion of those not watching ANY cable news channel regularly sides with the likes of CNN and MSNBC over Fox in terms of honesty?
In other words, poll those who have no constant exposure to any of the networks to see how America really feels about them. Any Fox News viewer would love FNC and hate MSNBC and CNN, and vice versa.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:56 pmJust shows how little you know. Ralph is absolutely right about you.
How dare you compare the two as if they were some way the same?
If you come here and claim to be an outsider and a progressive then odds are you are a libertarian, period.
Some disenfranchised republicans come here claiming to be independents too.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:57 pmHere’s something for you, PP
IF Fox News is the superior cable news source and this is shown by it’s higher ratings in similar time slots THEN Formula 1 MUST be the superior sport because its ratings for Sunday races are far higher than Sunday Football Games!
IF
FNS > other cable news by virtue of ratings
THEN
F1 > Football.
Get it?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:57 pmNo, I pretty sure they can hear Bellow Whineys screeching from here.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:58 pmEvidently the online course of “How to blog as a feigned libertarian for nickels and dimes” hasn’t gotten past the old ratings meme.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:00 pmMikeua26 says:
ElBruce
If you go to wikipedia for truth or any information, we all already know you are moron
I’m pretty sure that the information I found there can be backed up. It’s just usually the quickest way to find the information. But they also cite their sources. Will this do?
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TrueLiberty says:
Oh Yes and we all know the info at Wikipedia is always 100% accurate and unbiased truth…
So you’re taking me up on my offer to posit that Wikipedia is part of the vast Fed conspiracy. OK. I suppose the document I linked above in this comment is also a forgery. Ditto any other source I cite. So there’s pretty much nothing I can do to convince you the Congress did in fact vote for the Federal Reserve Act in 1913. Since the lizard aliens who control the world governments are all-powerful and can fake anything, there’s really no way of knowing, is there?
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 pmFixed Your Toaster
YW!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 pmaaronk says
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Pharaoh had more followers because they were forced to honor him through tyrranical reign. It would appear to me that Christ as a few more followers than the Pharisees.
You sandwich analolgy doesn’t hold up either, because there are other factors, such as marketing dollars spent by McDonalds vs. Hardees, total locations, accesibility, and of course price of the sandwich. If all of those things were equal, the better sandwich will always sell more.
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Exactly. There ARE other factors, which you scoreboardists never want to acknowledge. Fox News reaches more people, it’s carried by more cable companies, and it’s broadcast in more public places (including, interestingly, a lot of fast food places). But an even bigger factor is that progressives are far more likely to get their information from a variety of sources, and are less apt to stare numbly at one medium, absorbing the propaganda.
You have yet to put forth a convincing argument that Fox News ratings and “truth” are somehow related.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:04 pmaaronk: You sandwich analolgy doesn’t hold up either, because there are other factors, such as marketing dollars spent by McDonalds vs. Hardees, total locations, accesibility, and of course price of the sandwich. If all of those things were equal, the better sandwich will always sell more.
Really? And who determines which is “better”? Popularity has never been in a direct relationship to quality, particularly in a culture that puts such a high value on consistency and, dare we say it, on mediocrity.
Besides sandwiches, people like validation, and Fox News great success among a very limited cross-section is directly attributable to the manner in which they validate those people’s fears and opinions.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:15 pmDarn it!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:16 pmWhere’d all those ‘critical thinkers’ go?
We need their help and assistance!
With the Republican track record for being right about anything I think it is safe to classify the validity of this claim right alongside WMD’s, al Qaeda in Iraq, torture works and is legal, death panels, birtherism and all of the other things they rant about.
The Right never is.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:16 pmIt would appear to me that Christ as a few more followers than the Pharisees.
Well, the pewpoll says that there are more Buddhists than Christian so they win the ratings therefore its truth and you must convert
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:23 pmI hate all this dissing of Wikipedia going on.
Wikipedia is probably not the most reliable source, perhaps, but it is the most readily available resource on line that is publicly available to the masses. There are citations for a lot of the information there that can redirect the viewer to the original article.
Now give some props to Wiki, dammit!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:25 pmWhat was Rumsfeld doing reading Wika Wakka when he could have turned on the troof
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:25 pmShe joined the paid dancers a long time ago.Lip movement is just extra noise.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:35 pmEveryone knows what she is and does.
Funny she likes fraud fakes.
Isn’t she one of their dancers?
Amazing how they love the crazy mobs drooling over every meaningless word they say.
It’s reality tv.
Very low cost and no production necessary.
This sort of behavior is the political equivalent of pole dancing. I wonder where Billo, Becky and Rupe put the dollar bills?
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:41 pmPurple State, I’m with you on the wiki.
I know that its authority can be suspect, because it is a community-maintained resource, but it’s a pretty good source of information on subjects that are (or should be) free from political bias.
I’m just waiting for our Libertarian “Liberal” friends to send us a link from conservapedia as back-up for a claim. Now THAT’S what i call “truth”!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:46 pmMaybe so, PP – it’s not going too well for you…
luckily, there are a # of good mobile veteranarians who could handle your puppy trauma.
What’s wrong – did one of those mean little squirrels bite you??
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:49 pmI wonder if the balding chinless gasbag O’Reilly would stick them in the same place he wanted Andrea Mackris to put a vibe in him, his propensity for that was mentioned in the deposition for O’Reilly’s sexual harassment trial.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pmPat Pomery says:
Hey, Pat.
Can you confirm that F1 is way more AWESOME than Football, once and for all?
Thanks.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 pmThis woman is without a doubt insane. Her and Glen Beck should get married..it sure would be one interesting household of crazy…
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:06 pmaaronk says:
Pharaoh had more followers because they were forced to honor him through tyrranical reign.
Just goes to show your ignorance about history. The Egyptian religion mandated that people follow the Pharoahs as the representatives of the Gods on Earth, and they did so because of their deep and abiding faith in that religion. Just like Christians today.
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Purple State says:
I hate all this dissing of Wikipedia going on.
Wikipedia is probably not the most reliable source…
I’m not sure when this started. Last I heard, Wikipedia compared favorably to the Encyclopedia Britannica in a comparative study of accuracy. It’s also really good at citing the information it has, and/or providing warnings for where such citations are lacking. Lately everybody’s been dogging on it for some reason, though.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:09 pmAh, so I see that Pee Pee’s problem is not simply one of reading comprehension… it’s also one of a severely restricted imagination.
Not surprising, really. Most wingnurs appear to use their imaginations primarily not for considering questions of interest in the world around them, but rather for conjuring up threats of which they should be very, very afraid.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:13 pmPat Pomery says:
Can you confirm, PP?
f1 > football. right?
okay? ;)
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:20 pmPat Pomery says:
How could you possibly side with something you don’t watch?
Simple. If you step outside and look up and believe that the sky is blue, and Olbermann reported that the sky is blue while Beck said it’s red, you agreed with Olbermann, even if you didn’t watch either of their shows.
What your relativism fails to take into account is that there is a such thing as a real world, and statements which are at odds with the facts that actually exist in the real world are by definition false, regardless of how entertaining it may be to listen to them.
The only truth we get to vote on is who our elected officials will be. Last I checked, your side lost that argument also.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:23 pmif you can’t refute you can hit that ‘Vote Down’ button, huh?
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:25 pmThanks, Pat!
What’s to refute? You’re unable to imagine how someone who gets his news from sources other than cable would be able to venture an opinion on the truthfulness of the various cable “news” providers.
That’s a failure of imagination.
For instance, I get almost none of my news from cable providers. I depend on newspapers, the internet and NPR, cross-checked against each other. Yet I am aware of how much Faux News lies — I’m even aware that they sued in court to protect their right to lie — and as such, I’m able to judge their relative truthfulness compared to their rivals.
Consider yourself refuted. The personal attack was just a bonus.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:27 pmExactly, PP. Here’s what you do…
For those people that do not watch any of the networks, show them representative samples and get their opinion over which side they believe more.
It’s the Coke/Pepsi challenge, PP. That experiment is QUITE doable.
It’s likely you won’t come across many, so how about a straw poll for those who watch one news network over the others and get their opinion on the other networks? I wonder how many would say that they can tolerate the other side?
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:39 pmPat Pomery says:
I’m even aware that they sued in court to protect their right to lie
Really? Lie much?
http://www.relfe.com/media_can_legally_lie.html
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 pmPat Pomery says:
boot leather
Formula 1 isn’t better than football? I’m confused…
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:41 pmhttp://www.runet.edu/~wkovarik/class/law/1.9broadcast.html
Fox argued that they can lie legally… Pat?
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:45 pmPat Pomery says:
belaccifer lacca says:
The court docs read much different. Have you read them? Thought not.
Yeah, actually I have. You see I work in a law office and we thought it was ridiculous at the time… I tried to link to the decision but the pdf’s are offline… The thrust of WVTV’s argument is that the whistleblower statute does not apply because WVTV is not compelled to tell the truth and under the first amendment can broadcast any report it wants, even ones it believes to be factually inaccurate.
Have you read it?
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:48 pmPat Pomery says:
Secondly, it was a local Fox station in Florida, not THE FOX NEWS CHANNEL
Ahh, so it’s okay to argue that you can lie as long as you’re not national? That wasn’t their argument either.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:50 pmPat Pomery says:
You see I work in a law office
That matters how?
It helps explain why we printed and examined the decision from the court of appeals in my office… which is what I said. Can you read at all?
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:51 pmPat Pomery
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:51 pmMight I ask what your occupation is? Feel free to make one up…
Pat?
How does your interpretation of the ruling differ?
What am I missing?
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:52 pmHave you read them? Thought not
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:54 pm—
Why did you ask the question if you had already decided the answer you wanted?
Pat Pomery needs to stop now, he’s getting his ass kicked.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:56 pmPat Pomery is bleeding badly, anyone got a bandage?
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:59 pmIt has nothing to do with The Fox News Channel like most people, including yourself, think.
Okay… a Fox News AFFILIATE argued that they can legally lie and won. How does that disprove that FOX can now legally lie? Or that it was a Newscorp organization that made that argument?
It doesn’t.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:00 pmWTVT, channel 13, is a television station in Tampa, Florida. It is an owned and operated station of the Fox Broadcasting Company, a subsdiary of the News Corporation. WTVT’s studios are located in Tampa, and its transmitter is located in Riverview, Florida.
Oops. pat?
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:01 pmPat?
WTVT, channel 13, is a television station in Tampa, Florida. It is an owned and operated station of the Fox Broadcasting Company, a subsdiary of the News Corporation.
Thoughts?
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:02 pmPat, give yourself first-aid. You have been beaten badly, limp off to RedState and heal.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:03 pmRab says:
Pat Pomery is bleeding badly, anyone got a bandage?
Feels like I’m playing Gauntlet.
Purple State–needs food badly.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:04 pmPurple State–shot the food!
Purple State–is about to die.
Care to revise your hypothesis, pat?
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:07 pmPurple State: I like watching the beating when a repug like Pomery enters into the arena of truth armed with lies.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:08 pmHe/She thinks it will work, maybe on the average toothless,knuckledragger but not here.
Really Pat Pomery. What is it that you do with yourself? Do you pretend to be a Latin King or what? I am just curious. BTW: you are getting your ass whooped again but whatever…
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:14 pmSo if my belief that WVTV is both owned and operated by News Corp is, in fact, true.
AND that belief was your only problem with my interpretation of the ruling as you said, Pat, THEN can we assume that you now agree that NEWS CORP. through their affiliate WVTV argued for and won the right to lie?
Thanks for clarifying.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:21 pmI’d bet more people watch MTV than Fox News. I guess they get as much “truthiness” there.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:23 pmHe obviously likes it. Obviously it’s the only interpersonal relationship he has.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:25 pmDespite claims to the contrary, pat, I’m willing to be convinced… but all the evidence I’ve seen (including those all important ‘court docs.’) lead me to believe that Fox did argue for the ‘right to knowingly be deceptive’
Can you show me otherwise?
Pat?
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:36 pmbelaccifer lacca says:
So if my belief that WVTV is both owned and operated by News Corp is, in fact, true.
AND that belief was your only problem with my interpretation of the ruling as you said, Pat, THEN can we assume that you now agree that NEWS CORP. through their affiliate WVTV argued for and won the right to lie?
Sssh. Pat’s googling madly.
Anyone willing to bet that a affiliate of any network at all goes to court on an issue like this without clearing it at the top?
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:57 pm***
#198,
twajie’s razor.
*
aim for the wrists.
;0
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:04 pmaaronk says:
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well, considering that O’Reilly and Beck individually get more viewers than Olbermann, Maddow, and Mathews combined….I would say that people at least know where to get a higher degree of truth.
Except they don’t. They may have more TV viewers, but the CNN guys get more followers. Their online presence more than makes up for their lower TV audience numbers.
http://www.journalism.org/node/780
On a related note, it’s not surprising to me that it’s a conservative who refuses to look below the tip to see the total iceberg.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:19 pmbluesunflower says:
Brilliant.
Thank you, bluesunflower.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:22 pmbelaccifer lacca, great work. That’s one of the sweetest fact-based wingnut pummellings I’ve seen in a while.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:23 pmElBruce says:
belaccifer lacca, great work. That’s one of the sweetest fact-based wingnut pummellings I’ve seen in a while.
Thanks!
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:25 pmI really think we need to ignore Bachmann. She’s good at rallying the tin-foil hat crowd, but has nothing substantive to add to any serious dialogue. We seriously need to isolate the subcultural Republicans. They are way out of touch with mainstream America!
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:31 pmI love Michele. In fact, I love rightwing redneck women. Especially when they’re bipolar…
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:52 pm“In the current American political landscape, truth is not merely misrepresented or falsified; it is overtly mocked.”
Thus begins an essay by Henry Giroux on the politics of lying and the culture of deceit. I urge all to read and share it. It rocks!
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:04 pmBachmann heaping praise on O’Rielly and Beck is like the blind leading the blind. This group of squirrels will never find a nut, even if you put the nut right in front of them.
I am not sure how much longer they can hold out till reality sets in?
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:45 pmDnag! Little, slippery, puddles of troll-guts all over the place. I love it when they try to post an “argument from authority” against a genuine authority.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:03 pmBelac, I gotta agree with ElBruce. That was some serious troll ass-kicking.
One for the highlight reel. I’m honored to have played a small part (I think I might have been the one who brought up Faux “right to lie” lawsuit that drew Pee Pee out of his burrow) but I’m glad I got out of the way and left the field to you.
Masterful performance.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:37 pmOnly someone who doesn’t understand the definitions of words would argue that television cable ratings are somehow connected to how true the information given is. And that someone would be a complete and total idiot.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:38 pmPat Pomery says:
argued for and won the right to lie?
It’s a good thing you just make coffee in your “law” office. Stick to what you know which is……?
If you know what’s good for you, you’ll stay down.
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:01 pmPat Pomery says:
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It’s a good thing you just make coffee in your “law” office. Stick to what you know which is……?
Obviously far more than you, Pat.
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:01 pmI like that ‘law’ is in quotes… why would I lie? I’m not a lawyer… but I talk about the law with lawyers all day. Including talking about the case we’re discussing.
Please give me your interpretation of WVTV’s argument and we can discuss…
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:02 pmI’d like to see this happen…
PeePee? You got enough fight left in ya to get off the canvas one more time?
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:26 pmPat Pomery says:
This comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I’m even aware that they sued in court to protect their right to lie
Really? Lie much?
No! YOU LIE!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:55 amPat Pomery says:
argued for and won the right to lie?
It’s a good thing you just make coffee in your “law” office. Stick to what you know which is……?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
It is a good thing YOU just blow crackheads on skid row. Why dont you stick to the only thing YOU know?
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:37 am@ 216. greenpagan says: I love Michele. In fact, I love rightwing redneck women. Especially when they’re bipolar…
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:52 pm
And off their meds… Can’t forget the important factors.
September 23rd, 2009 at 2:05 amThe big difference is that the assortment of cocktail nuts most likely tastes good. Bachmann only leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
evangenital says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:13 amShe is as nutty as a Planter’s Assortment of cocktail nuts.
Nutty, nut, nut…
What a sophisticated retort, when you can’t defend your argument! I imagine many six-graders will want to imitate it.
Pat Pomery says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 amargued for and won the right to lie?
It’s a good thing you just make coffee in your “law” office. Stick to what you know which is..?
OK it’s official Rep. Michele Bachmann, Sarah “My geography sucks because I had no idea Africa was a continent” “and Oh yeah I’m an idiot” Palin and Ann Coulter are all the same ill informed propaganda spewing moron in a different mask!!!!! There is no way all three of these idiots could exist on the same timeline at the same time!!!!!! The universe would surely end!!!!! LOL
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:25 am“The Truth Is Out There”
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:57 pm…but you won’t find it on Faux News…or any other of those media outlets for that matter.
The Nation (and the media) has been hijacked by the Corporates (read: Core-Pirates).
It’s amazing how worked up the left gets over the fact that a large amount of people don’t goosestep in line with their views. gögüs küçültme
September 28th, 2009 at 11:37 amThank you for your sharing.!
September 29th, 2009 at 7:17 am