DeMint: Obama ‘Puts Our Troops At Risk’ By Working On Health Reform
DeMint: Obama ‘Puts Our Troops At Risk’ By Working On Health Reform
The Washington Post reported this week that Gen. Stanley McChyrstal, the top commander in Afghanistan, has recommended that more U.S. troops be sent there or the conflict will “likely result in failure.” However, the Obama administration is currently reviewing its overall Afghanistan strategy before anymore troops are deployed.
On ABC’s Top Line today, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) attacked Obama. “A lot of us are concerned that the President is putting off listening to the recommendations from his generals because he’s getting so much pressure from the left,” DeMint complained. When host David Chalian noted that Obama simply “wants to make sure that the resources are there to fit the strategy,” DeMint accused Obama of abandoning Afghanistan to focus on health care, which DeMint suggested is not a priority for the country:
DEMINT: The problem is, the war in Afghanistan and our economy are our two biggest issues. But he’s working on other issues such as health care and he’s putting off the decision on Afghanistan which I think puts our troops at risk. So he needs to focus on priorities right now and not try to ram so many things down our throat here in Congress. He needs to address the issue of Afghanistan quickly.
Watch it:
DeMint’s belief that reforming health care is not a priority puts him out of step with the rest of the country. In fact, numerous polls conducted recently show health care (next to the economy) as a top priority for most Americans.
But also, the Obama administration is focused on Afghanistan. “I think that what we have to do is get the right strategy,” Obama said on Sunday. The “strategy” for war hawks like DeMint is easy because the answer is always to simply send more troops. However, the Obama administration appears to be taking a more thoughtful approach. The New York Times reports today that Obama and his top defense advisers have been “chewing over the problem”:
The sweeping reassessment has been prompted by deteriorating conditions on the ground, the messy and still unsettled outcome of the Afghan elections and a dire report by Mr. Obama’s new commander, Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal. Aides said the president wanted to examine whether the strategy he unveiled in March was still the best approach and whether it could work with the extra combat forces General McChrystal wants.
“President Obama has made it clear that the Afghanistan theater should be our top military priority,” said Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who takes the lead on the administration’s defense issues (while other administration officials, like Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebilius, tackle health care).
Apparently to DeMint, taking the time to get the strategy right means abandoning the problem.
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Mr. DeMint,
Unlike yourself, the president has not only the reputation but the obvious ability to chew gum, speak and walk all at the same time as well as keeping a number of issues in mind!! Go and crawl back under your repuglian rock and stop lying about every thing. On the other hand, keep lying we are wise to you.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:08 pmhas demint been lurking here, learning how to rock the “concern troll”?
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:10 pmHey, Senator DeMint… STFU.
Thanks.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:13 pmAsshat of the Day Award goes to Sen. Dimwit.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:14 pmDeMint = SC. Enough said.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:14 pmexactly right tombaker, Demint is just concern trolling the media. How I hate the Republicans for their use of such fascist propaganda.
May they all be removed from every elected position.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:15 pm“A lot of us are concerned that the President is putting off listening to the recommendations from his generals because he’s getting so much pressure from the left,”
– - But wait, Obama is a dictator, right Jimmah? Dictators don’t govern by consensus.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:15 pmHey ‘Sen.’ DeMint,
Why do you HATE AMERICA?? Answer me that, you POS!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:19 pm***
minty can’t multi-task
but the president can.
:0
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:21 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Can’t these guys chew gum and walk at the same time? Oh, by the way Superior, since when did the Repugs CARE about our troops? The Dems are the ones who pushed for the GI Bill. The Repugs thought it was to expensive. So get lost creep.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:25 pmPolitically Superior says:
He’s right. Healthcare needs to take a backseat to the war and the economy. Does obama care about a few people who can’t afford health insurance more than our troops and the massive number of unemployed?
As noted above, Presidents are expected to be able to focus on more than one issue at a time. There is never one single issue that should preoccupy a President–unlike the last one with his obsession with The Global War on Terra.
President Obama is acting, uh, presidential.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:26 pmYou are entitled to your opinion politicallyinferior, but your party is not in power. You don’t get to make those types of decisions. Obama and the Democrats get to make those decisions now.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:27 pmPolitically Superior “Few”=40+ Million??????
And last time I checked Obama wasn’t a military strategist.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:27 pmDeMint puts the whole damn country at risk by being a phucking dumb ass. Wither and die worthless weed.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:28 pmPolitically Superior says:
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He’s right. Healthcare needs to take a backseat to the war and the economy. Does obama care about a few people who can’t afford health insurance more than our troops and the massive number of unemployed?
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:23 pm
The number of Americans who are health care uninsured far and away outnumbers those currently serving in the US military , jackass……..
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 pmDeMint makes the mistake in thinking that a President can only deal with one issue at a time. Only Bush, and apparently DeMint have that problem.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:32 pmI think this guy is worried that other South Carolinians have been getting more attention, so he had to step up his crazy-game.
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tombaker says:
has demint been lurking here, learning how to rock the “concern troll”?
It looks to me like he’s doing more of a distraction-troll tactic. “Soldiers are dying because we’re not focusing on the war! Look over there! Look over there!” It’s one of the most desperate gambits in the troll repertoire.
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Politically Superior says:
Healthcare needs to take a backseat to the war and the economy.
As a wise man once said, “a President should be able to do more than one thing at a time.” Ours can. Nobody said he doesn’t take some time each day to deal with war issues. Congress is the only one with most of their time tied up with health care right now. So what specific things do you think Congress should be doing regarding Afghanistan?
Also, fixing health care will have a huge positive impact on the economy.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:33 pmThis person has no creditability and has been shown to lie, cheat and blur the lines. He has no place in government and must be replaced. Are the People of South Carolina so bereft of honest people? It is beginning to look so to the rest of us
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:33 pmAh yes… here comes DeMint… packin’ a whole new load of Stuped…
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:36 pmI wonder what the trolls think about that poor Census worker who was found hanged in Kentucky? It turns out ‘Fed’ was scratched on his chest. He was a single father, who had two jobs, and was found hanged. Was he murdered? The FBI thinks so. Could it be the red-hot rhetoric by Bachman and the Right-wing noise machine?
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:36 pmralph the wonder llama says:
Hey, Senator DeMint… STFU.
Thanks.
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Like this, ralphie…
Hey, Senator DeMint… STFU.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:38 pmYou know what would help the troops? Stop paying Halliburton to rip them off, charging exorbitant amounts of money for services the military can do itself. Those little chores are a great way to beat boredom and bind the troops socially in a shared living arrangement. Poisoning and electrocuting the troops doesn’t help, either. That money could be spent on armor, faster troop rotations, and more leave time.
And stop paying mercenaries to offend the local populations, bringing blowback to the troops.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:38 pmWhat do the GOOPers do these days?
***puzzled frown***
Do they actually have secret meetings, like in, oh say, an airport restroom stall, and see who can come up w/the Most Ridiculous Smear of the Week™???
It’s getting increasingly PAINFUL to look at STUPED this profound…
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:42 pmPolitically Superior says: Healthcare needs to take a backseat to the war and the economy. Does obama care about a few people who can’t afford health insurance more than our troops and the massive number of unemployed?
40 million uninsured/underinsured = “a few”
1 million troops ( served) who have government ‘health care’ = ?
Do you think the 39 million people who now draw Food Stamps can afford health insurance? (UP by about 8 million since 2000).
“Health care and the economy” DID “take a backseat”, WHEN BUSH WAS IN THE WH for 8 years!
So how did that arrangement work out? Epic fail at home, epic fail abroad. Your opinions and your Party are worthless.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:44 pmDeMint accused Obama of abandoning Afghanistan to focus on health care, which DeMint suggested is not a priority for the country
Shut the hell up , De(ath)Mint ; it isn’t a priority FOR YOU , because you already have a full health care package paid for by US……..
What a complete jerkoff………
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:46 pmWhat is scary is that the folks who elected this clown must say to themselves, “Dang, this DeMinted boy is a pretty sharp feller.”
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:47 pmPolitically Superior:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 pmAs an youngster, I am assuming you have little job security and barely anything that resembles a career. Would you like to comment?
This is O/T, but…
ACORN Sues Makers Of Pimp And Prostitute Video
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet…
Now… pleasepleaseplease let there be some CRIMINAL charges involved too!
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I’d like to kick DeMint in De Nuts.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:52 pmWhat I find most amazing about many of today’s politicians is that they have no self-awareness and sense of historical perspective. Do DeMint and Wilson think that history is going to write they were brave statesmen? They are going to look like jackasses along with the birthers, teabaggers, and the other wacked out politicians. One hundred years from now, historians will wonder why someone in the Republican party did not step up to throttle all this stupidity.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:52 pmO/T, sorry fellow TP`rs. I just got my time mag out of my mailbox. Its extremly revolting to see glenn beck on the cover with him sticking his tongue out. Im going to mail it back to time. I was thinking about writing DICK across his forehead before I mail it. That would make me feel like an immature rightwingnut,and I dont want to stoop to their level.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:54 pmSo does anyone have any suggestions for me?
Kenneth says:
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Mr. President,
While you stall and can’t make a decision to send more troops, our troops there already are at risk of losing their lives.
American plays to win! Anything less is cowardice and makes America look weak.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:52 pm
If we removed all our troops from Iraq and Afghanistan , none of them would be in danger of losing their lives……
And that’s also the intelligent thing to do , which is never an act of cowardice , nor makes one look weak…..
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:57 pm***
#10,
false equivalency
poorly done.
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September 23rd, 2009 at 8:57 pmPD: Is there a fund being taken for this man’s family (the census worker, not Dumint). I worked for the Census in 1980, and it was scary THEN. Crappy job- I ditched it for a job in a donut shop, that’s how much I hated it.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:58 pmsscncturn64
Mail it back to Time with a letter stating you’re cancelling your subscription , along with the reason why………
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:58 pm**
#30,
american can do.
:|
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:00 pmTime magazine is a joke. Remember Judith Miller and the Yellow Cake?
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:00 pmsscncturn64 says:
Sprinkle generously with holy water and then burn it.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:00 pmAmerican plays to win! Anything less is cowardice and makes America look weak.
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September 23rd, 2009 at 9:01 pmThen how come we always lose that World Cup deal?
“Americans play to win”?
War is not a game one plays. When Americans do play “to win” it’s MONEY they want. “Honor, Duty and Country” are absolutely meaningless to our politicians, and the companies like Haliburton which own them right down to their teeth fillings.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:05 pmYeh, Demint, Im sure a record amount of vacation days by a president will fix that.
But, really, do you expect people to buy what you are saying?
Cause I aint buying it. Why not just say the troops are at risk because of the recession that began in 12-07?
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:06 pmRe: Kenneth @ 30: If you knew a _damn thing_ about history, you’s be aware that NOBODY has EVER succeeded at occupying Afghanistanm no matter HOW MANY TROOPS they deployed.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:06 pmThe radical right is very skilled at putting together two pieces on nonsense and blaming the connection on Obama. It is a fun game, lets have shot:
“By making so many speeches,Obama contibutes to global warming, even though we don’t believe in global warming.”
“By pushing health care reform, Obama is killing all the trees it takes to print the 5000 page bill.”
“Governor Sanford had to have an affair in Argentina because Obama is destoying our freedom.”
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:08 pmPlaying the unrelated fear card? Desperation pure and simple!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:08 pmJust wake up there Kenrumpelstiltskin? You do recall that Dubyay went all Don Quixote out of Afghanistan chasing after OBL into Iraq?
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:08 pmI cant kick that high up.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:11 pm…and another thing! Creating a Public Health Option would go a long long long way towards reviving our economy. A lot more than escalating an already failed (2) wars.
What might be really, really BAD for our Economy? ? ? Well,hmmm…. How about MANDATING every American have (crap) health insurance, or else suffer enormous fines? Now THERE’S an Economy Crasher for you!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:14 pmMy Aussie cyber-buddy just sent me this video. Hope the link works. It’s good commentary on our health care system.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 pmand the “debate”
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 pmHere we go again with the textbook neoconservative strategy. When Obama doesn’t make the decisions which they want him to make and think he should he make when they want him to make them, it’s not enough for them to accuse him of having poor judgment (never mind simply disagreeing with him in a respectful manner) — they refuse to be content with anything less than the utmost possible extreme of claiming that Obama is attacking/betraying/destroying/endangering this country. Make no mistake — this is being done deliberately and for no reason other than malice for the sake of political gain.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:16 pmIf you are my age (67 years), and you have paid close attention to American history and international politics for the last half century, you have probably noticed that Imperial America, with military troops and military bases currently in over one hundred countries around the world, always seems to have “enemies” and reasons to be killing foreigners, overthrowing democracies, supporting right-wing dictators, torturing, and stopping social progress in third world countries. Is this a trend, do you think?
Actually, we have been intervening in a hostile way in third world countries for over a century now; President William McKinley formally launched American overseas colonialism in 1898 in the “Spanish-American War.” The Filipinos probably had another name for it, something akin to the “Changing Colonial Masters War.” The Philippines were switched from being a Spanish colony to being an American colony. And we have been pulling this imperial intervene crap, off and on, ever since in the Caribbean, Central America, South America, Africa, and Asia.
It is time to end the American Imperial Empire. Get out of Afghanistan and Iraq for starters…
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:26 pmVan Jones was right….republicans are as*holes.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:26 pmThe great misfortune of this incessant right wing noise is that now no one who is paying attention believes anything they say, and if an opposition member does have a substantive to objection to something (and there are those), it can’t get through the hyperbolic drivel.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:34 pmIt’s time to play wingnut mad libs!
___(Democrat)___ is putting our brave troops at risk by ___(verb)___
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wiley says:
You know what would help the troops? Stop paying Halliburton to rip them off, charging exorbitant amounts of money for services the military can do itself.
Ya think? I wonder what DeMint has to say about KBR electrocuting our troops, seeing as how he’s so concerned for them and all.
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The Republic of Stupidity says:
This is O/T, but…
ACORN Sues Makers Of Pimp And Prostitute Video
Check this out. Some ACORN offices called the cops and filed police reports as soon as those “filmmakers” started asking crazy questions about cheating the gubmint.
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Kenneth says:
Mr. President,
While you stall and can’t make a decision to send more troops, our troops there already are at risk of losing their lives.
Better to take enough time to make the right decision than make the wrong one because you didn’t know enough. Quit second-guessing our Commander in Chief. Why do you Hate The Troops? Blah blah blah…
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sscncturn64 says:
So does anyone have any suggestions for me?
Call them up and ask what the best way to return it and drop your subscription is. Make sure they know exactly why you’re doing so. Also, when you send it back include a letter explaining why in detail, to make sure they don’t miss it.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:38 pm***
#54,
kay,
he was right,
but 70 million americans
said it before he did.
:)
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:39 pmSkepticRising says:
The great misfortune of this incessant right wing noise is that now no one who is paying attention believes anything they say, and if an opposition member does have a substantive to objection to something (and there are those), it can’t get through the hyperbolic drivel.
Like I’ve been saying for a week now, the only voice being shouted down by the extreme right wing is the moderate right wing.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:39 pmGood God, I LOATHE Repukes. They are evil, self-serving greedy lying pigs.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 pm#59,
annie,
and that’s just the
“moderate” wing of the party.
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September 23rd, 2009 at 9:42 pmFYI…….
TIME Magazine is owned by Rupert Murdoch…….’nuff said?
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 pmKenneth says:
Braindead moronic wingnuts like YOU make America look STUPID.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 pmThanks for the suggestions on mailing back my time mag.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:59 pmI will write a letter to them explaning why im canceling my subscription. Beck is a disease, I dont want anything that has to do with him near me or my family. I was just on MMFA, they have a few things about him on there tonight. If you want to see beck throw frogs into boiling water then visit MMFA. Beck is getting more outrageous everyday. He is a shrinks dream patient.
Sen. DeMint. Kindly shut up. Your earlier votes to escalate the invasion of Iraq and to put more troops in Iraq directly affected the conflict in Afghanistan. Your myopic, knee jerk, party line following is one of the main reasons for the problems our military is facing in Afghanistan.
To stand up now and fling fear disgusts me. No one. Not any republican or democrat that voted for the invasion of Iraq has my ear now. They lost all of my respect. So Sen DeMint shut up.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:01 pmGreatgranny2B, I had no idea that murdoch owned time.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:02 pmThanks for the info.
Those right wing klansmen in South Carolina could use some education and honesty training. They are some dumb racists down there.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:07 pmSo now DeMint has been reduced to complaining about which Bush/Republican mess to fix first?
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:08 pmI’m waiting for CancervativeGuy to show up and comment that it’s “another lib sob story.”
P.D. says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 pmI wonder what the trolls think about that poor Census worker who was found hanged in Kentucky? It turns out ‘Fed’ was scratched on his chest. He was a single father, who had two jobs, and was found hanged. Was he murdered? The FBI thinks so. Could it be the red-hot rhetoric by Bachman and the Right-wing noise machine?
DeMented has set a new threshold for idiocy and hypocrisy.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:21 pmWhat future-President DeMint is saying is that if you tell domestic issues to f uck off like Bush did you’ll have more time to prevent the deaths of 4,000 U.S. troops, tens of thousands injured, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths, and its population exile. It’s called time management and prioritizing. And you have to make more time to stay the course.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:22 pmsscncturn64 – You are most welcome. There isn’t much that Murdoch doesn’t have a finger in now. He also has strong ties to Hong Kong and the CLSA, hence Palin’s gig there. This site makes for some interesting reading on him:
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:23 pmhttp://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/07/b122948.html
hellinabucket says:
Sen. DeMint. Kindly shut up. Your earlier votes to escalate the invasion of Iraq and to put more troops in Iraq directly affected the conflict in Afghanistan.
Ooh, good catch! That angle hadn’t occurred to me, but I guess I should have known. I bet there are plenty of things DeMint has done that endangers troops.
Not to mention the rest of us…
Why would he allow us to be potentially dirty-bombed by terrorists? Because otherwise airport screeners might be allowed to unionize. And Republicans don’t like unions. Think about that the next time he bloviates about who’s putting who at risk and why.
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Above the Clouds says:
So now DeMint has been reduced to complaining about which Bush/Republican mess to fix first?
Pretty much. He’s playing shell games with it – anything we try to fix, he’ll complain about all the others that aren’t getting fixed. His goal is to prevent us from fixing anything, because all Republicans want America destroyed.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:26 pm“DeMint accused Obama of abandoning Afghanistan to focus on health care,”
Even if true, it beats all hell out of abandoning Afghanistan to focus on Iraq.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:26 pmOutstandingInMyField says:
“DeMint accused Obama of abandoning Afghanistan to focus on health care,”
Even if true, it beats all hell out of abandoning Afghanistan to focus on Iraq.
Or DeMint’s focus on blocking gay marriage. Talk about clueless on priorities and utter hypocrisy!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:28 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
What future-President DeMint is saying is that if you tell domestic issues to f uck off like Bush did you’ll have more time to prevent the deaths of 4,000 U.S. troops, tens of thousands injured, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths, and its population exile. It’s called time management and prioritizing.
Hey, that brush ain’t gonna clear itself.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:30 pmDeMint is a retard.
He is the typical stupid bullheaded repiggie who regurgitates the same old Bush/Cheney bullcrap uncritically.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:31 pmsscncturn64 says:
So does anyone have any suggestions for me?
Newsweek has really improved with the new editor and format, though if you read the Time article it is certainly not flattering to the cover dude with the stubby tongue. It make’s him out to be a cynical profiteer playing on tother’s emotions.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:33 pmOverall, Time has gotten thin and useless over the last 10-15 years, and I’ve been a subscriber since ‘74. In this recession, that would be the first mag I’d cut loose.
P.D. says:
I wonder what the trolls think about that poor Census worker who was found hanged in Kentucky? It turns out ‘Fed’ was scratched on his chest. He was a single father, who had two jobs, and was found hanged. Was he murdered? The FBI thinks so. Could it be the red-hot rhetoric by Bachman and the Right-wing noise machine?
Listen, we’re flaming red states. Living here is like living in a rabied dog’s pen. We don’t have any good paying jobs, yet we whine to the blue states that support us about free-murkets and low taxes. None of those platitudes have ever worked much for us, but we expect you do abide by it. The money that comes in, we’ll pretend the federal government, whether a congressman’s pork or individual jobs and grants, etc., don’t factor in. It has to be a CEO trickling down on us.
We’re very scared of the federal government. Except when it’s time to cash their checks at the bank.
Oh well, I hope they build a 5th Wal-Mart around here. We could use one.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:34 pmAmerica needs a president who isn’t afraid to f uck up everything in sight and tell people its ok not to be outraged, to be happy, and to demonize those into accountability and compassionate.
I want everything in America to be a gamble – maybe you’ll get good health care, maybe you won’t. Maybe you’ll get a good education, maybe you won’t. We need a president who’ll push the failures people voted to solve right back down their throats. Republicans are not afraid to catch the hostages trying to get to help and tie them back up in the shack.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:41 pmGreatGranny2B
Rupert Murdoch does have his hand in most everything media, but I haven’t found any mention of him owning Time/Warner and AOL.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 pmWhere can I find that?
Kenneth
You’re in the same boat as me: ascribing the heroism of the troops onto yourself to take a pro-war position. You don’t do shit, fat bozo, stfu. Who’s “we”? F ucker.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:47 pmMe either. It does help explain the Spin Wreck fluff piece and its lack of factals.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:50 pmWhat won’t these GNOP freaks not exploit for political gain?
We have 15 9/11’s a year, that is 45,000 dying a year due to lack of access to health care.
At least we now have a president that gives a damn.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:53 pmot
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this girl is smoking hot.
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and she really sticks it to kirk cameron.
:)
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 pmDeMint says, “Health Care Reform will come in the form of a mushroom cloud”.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 pmI’m pretty sure Murdoch does not own Time.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:56 pmPolitically Superior says:
He’s right. Healthcare needs to take a backseat to the war and the economy. Does obama care about a few people who can’t afford health insurance more than our troops and the massive number of unemployed?
I’m glad you brought that up. We’ve gone to such bizarre lengths as party, massively screwing everything up and then laying out an unrealistic timetable on those brought in to clean it up. It’s not as if we care to see anything cleaned up – if we deny the resources, nominees and treat the severity of the mess as a quick-fixer, we can can slow this thing down long enough to turn around and claim they aren’t moving fast enough. So far, it seems to be working.
We can pass ourselves off as recovery experts, and maybe people will forget we bombed everything in the first place and vote us back to power. The power … is tastaaay!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 pmPresident DeMint should tell us why S.C. is the best state to live! Amurica should take note!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:59 pmThanks, ElBruce.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:04 pm@84 joecantwell,
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:05 pmThanks for that link, it was awesome.
DeMint says, “Obama is totally ignoring the brush problem”.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:11 pmDeMint says, “Obama’s use of proper English is Un-American and harms the troops.”
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:13 pmCow non-evolved cow, joe cantwell @ 84, that was an Epic Smackdown. I think I’m in love with that girl …
As for Demint, what do you expect from someone suffering from Demintia …
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:41 pmGreatGranny2B says:
There isn’t much that Murdoch doesn’t have a finger in now.
I am happy to say that Rupert got his a$$ kicked in Chicago. He took over the Sun Times newspaper and wrecked it so bad that he had to sell it. Not only did the paper lose readers, but all of the best reporters and editors left. Now he only has the local Fox station here.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:41 pmSorry, I meant Holy non-evolved cow…
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:41 pmThey really do think that if they say something on teevee people naturally believe them.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 pmI think that segment of the population is dwindling.
DeMint speaks to the people who think Obama is “taking their freedoms” but who also wholeheartedly support the “Patriot Act”. The GOP needs an intervention.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:56 pm#53-You said it all.I’m 4 yrs. older than you but your right.We never seem to learn. McGeorge Bundy to LBJ(1965)”The stakes in Vietnam are extremely high,the American investment is very large, and American responsibilty is a fact of life which is palpable in the atmosphere of Asia,and even elsewhere.The international prestige of the United States,and a substantial part of our influence,are directly at risk Vietnam”.Sound familiar? 58,000 dead.For what?
September 24th, 2009 at 12:03 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
have you heard?
US Senate Panel Defeats Hatch’s Medicare Advantage Measure
Wall Street Journal – Patrick Yoest – ?9 hours ago?
WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)–The Senate Finance Committee on Wednesday defeated an amendment to health-care legislation that likely would have spared private Medicare Advantage plans from any subsidy cuts under the bill.
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some good news… g’nite…
September 24th, 2009 at 12:06 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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#90, #93,
mike seaver is a dick.
… … …
“Demintia”?
now that’s cool.
:)
September 24th, 2009 at 12:17 am#101 perhaps he wants to make a sound decision with input from many sources unlike Bush.
September 24th, 2009 at 12:18 amKenneth, I’m thinking I’m tired of presidents, and other politicians, who make decisions solely to save their butts. What is it the GOPers say as the equivocate about health reform? We need it right more than we need it right now. While failure to act on either Afghanistan or health care costs lives, and one could legitimately argue for caution in both cases, the conservative sector has long since lost all credability on Afghanistan, a war they neglected for nearly eight years. Even now, you can’t decide between “it’s Obama’s Vietnam, look you liberals, he’s still in this war”, and “we need to throw more money and materiel at this war so that no defense contractor will be left behind”. Give it up already, we will support more troops to Afghanistan if we believe it supports our national interest, and we applaud a president thoughtful enough to ask questions and consider the overall strategy.
September 24th, 2009 at 12:20 am***
#99
“Make a Decision!”
:|
September 24th, 2009 at 12:20 amWhy has the GOP plan for Afghanistan changed from ignore and underfund to “The Surge is working, the surge is working”?
September 24th, 2009 at 12:21 amKenneth @12:10
September 24th, 2009 at 12:22 amThe president doesn’t do that because Ahmadinejad has a million Basij ready to move into Iraq.
. . . or Afghanistan
September 24th, 2009 at 12:29 amjb says:
Why has the GOP plan for Afghanistan changed from ignore and underfund to “The Surge is working, the surge is working”?
Maybe they’re worried about their Halliburton stock? If Iraq is over, the only place left to make a buck is in Afghanistan.
September 24th, 2009 at 12:35 am,
Shorter DeMint:
O.K.
Dear Senator,
Support health care…
… Bring the troops home!
p.s.
No Americans are harmed under my plan…
… How many must die before yours is a “Mission Accomplish”?
XXOO
America
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September 24th, 2009 at 12:54 am.
Q U E S T I O N:
Does DeMint mean that our troops should keep dying while trying to fight them over there …
… So that Americans can keep on dying, not even having to fight Al-CIA-Duh over here?
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September 24th, 2009 at 1:00 amfear nada says:
Kudos to Canada for walking out on one of the lefts heroes, A-jad. :)
The who what now?
Kudos to Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, St. Kitts and Nevis and United Kingdom for walking out on the right-wing Ahmadinejad.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:13 amSheeyit. J deMented is an expert on military matters now, he ought to just resign his seat and volunteer to pick up a gun and go to Afghanistan. And fern nado can go with him as his valet and aide-de-camp. Cain’t let J deMented go off to do battle with the wily Pushtun without a dickholder along to take care of the necessaries.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:18 amFunny how the wingnutz are now bleating their “concern for the troops”
Do any of you f-ing wingnutz remember these infamous (butchered) quotes?
“Six days, six weeks. I doubt six months. Well f-me up the cheney and call me pretty. It is already 6 years!”
“They are north, south, east, west, up, down, on, in, above, nearby, around, in the general vecinity, guarded by the chupacabras”
And WE progressives and lefties were dismissed by you stupid f cks when WE WARNED YOU about your LIES.
If you POS GOPigs had any decency, you would stop f-ing HARMING the American people with your partisan obstructionist efforts.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:18 amUntil then STFU!
you’re weak, mr. fear
astonishingly weak.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:21 amI’m sure Obama would have walked out, too, if he could.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:24 amBut he still has to negotiate us out of the mess bush and son left
in Iraq and Afghanistan.
how and when did you get all retarded, mr. fear?
did they make you go to a kirk cameron bible camp?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:26 amKenneth says:
This President can’t make a decision to save his butt. Either send more troops to Afghanistan and win the war or pull out and let the Middle East go back to the 15th Century. Make a Decision!
Too late to complain at him now; Bush has been out of office for eight months already.
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Kenneth says:
I’m thinking
No you’re not.
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Kenneth says:
OK! Why isn’t this President doing that?
Another cut-and-runner who doesn’t support the troops…
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fear nada says:
All decisions regarding the wars have been put off and put off.
Clearly you haven’t been paying attention. We’ll be out of Iraq on Jan. 31st of this year. Obama made that decision, and he made it six years more quickly than Bush ever did.
Remember when y’all used to say that giving timelines was going to be so horrible?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:26 am@ 53. Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre says: If you are my age (67 years), and you have paid close attention to American history and international politics for the last half century, you have probably noticed that Imperial America, with military troops and military bases currently in over one hundred countries around the world, always seems to have “enemies” and reasons to be killing foreigners, overthrowing democracies, supporting right-wing dictators, torturing, and stopping social progress in third world countries. Is this a trend, do you think?
Actually, we have been intervening in a hostile way in third world countries for over a century now; President William McKinley formally launched American overseas colonialism in 1898 in the “Spanish-American War.” …. September 23rd, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Pretty good point, Mr. Sayre. The process of extraterritorial imperialism and colonialism may have started in 1898 due to the closing of the ‘frontier’ and the end of internal imperialism, aka, the Indian Wars of the 1870s and 1880s.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:27 amfrance led the walkout, dummy.
you righties hate them.
delegates from socialist countries walked out, too.
are you a closet socialist,
or just a really, really s-l-o-w righty?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:28 amIs that what Dr. Weiners told you, Bovine?
DAYUUUM. Your keyboard warrior service certainly stopped him. Didn’t it, Bovine?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:29 amfear nada says:
Why do you far left loons love a-jad and hate Canada?
Since when are you wingnuts all pro-Canada? Willing to adopt their health care system? I am.
As for “loving Ahmadinejad,” the neocon agenda is primarily what supports him and keeps him in power. He is a right wing extremist, just like you. Therefore I’m as much against him as I am against you. Which is to say, a lot. People like you and Ahmadinejad are a cancer rotting their own nations from within.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:31 ammr. fear,
where were you, exactly, on 9/11 and 9/12 of this year?
is there anyone else who can help you prove you weren’t in Kentucky?
there are some gentlemen here from the FBI who would like to ask you a few questions.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:35 ami’ll let those guys know they should stop by and see ya tomorrow.
good luck with that.
i’m sorry.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:38 amin the meantime, i suggest you clean up your pad, and get rid of all those cold pill packages.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:40 am129 tombaker
I hate to speak in the Bovine’s defense, but it is a fact that Jeffy Bovine (Fears Everything) was safely under his blanket sporting a cold full load in his diaper.
His care taker has the Wally-world receipts to prove the diaper bulk purchases.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:41 amAhmadinejad adored Bush. He mirrored his tax cut, sending a check to every family right after he was elected, and built his own “Blackwater”, the Basij. Both are theocrats.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:42 am.
Sorry O.T. …
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September 24th, 2009 at 1:45 am
i’m willing to give the authorities the time to figure that out jd.
just for good measure.
people like mr. fear don’t realize the net has its own version of the air marshals, who help law enforcement track down radicals linked to domestic terror plots.
and they don’t realize that a guy like me might be im’ing with those authorities right now, to establish new leads in important investigations.
so they continue to shoot their mouths off in places like this to garner some attention.
which is probably not the best idea.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:46 amwhy change the subject now, mr. fear?
feeling uncomfortable?
i’m sure it’s nothing…
let’s just talk about your recent activities, ok?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:48 am137 tombaker
Oh, great!!
You’ve just made Fear Everything drop a fresh steaming load!
Sure! You laugh about it. Bet you never thought about the poor guys having to clean up Mr. Fear Everything.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:50 am(pssst – mr. fear?….now you know how STUPID you sound to me)
now go throttle your meager little monkey to a picture of sarah p. and get some sleep.
that crank’s not gonna cook itself tomorrow, punkass little tweak.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:51 amElBruce,
I think that fear nada thing has nada thing to fear but himself…
… Anyway. NO?
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September 24th, 2009 at 1:53 amhey mr. fear,
do you think sarah surrender,
or mittens-the-mormon,
will win next time?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:54 amyou can have another bump while you think it over
September 24th, 2009 at 1:54 amsad little righty clown….
September 24th, 2009 at 1:57 ambye 4 now.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:58 amFollowing DeMint’s logic, by DeMent taking the time and effort to oder the President to do what a Senator demands must be killing alot of troops as well.
But I guess when Bush was on vacation or playing golf, he was nuturing our troops.?
September 24th, 2009 at 2:07 amBush was in Texas,
clearing brush for freedom.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:10 amI would feel a bit better about DeMint’s comment if my own party had any credibility about Iraq after the dismal stupidity of President Bush. The people or more particularly the leader of the group that brought us the 9/11 bombing was in Afghanistan. If Bush had concentrated on Afghanistan instead of pulling so many troops from there to fight in Iraq (that had nothing to do with the crime of 9/11) the probability of success would have been good. But alas, for some psychological game he had going to try to outshine his father, this mess goes on and on. And the perps have not been apprehended and then tried in the correct court venue and no sentence has been carried out. As a Republican myself, one of the thing that shames me about our party is that Bush has gotten a pass from Republicans for this horrible un-American behavior. I for one want a thoughtful and systematic review of the war in Afghanistan with a clearer goal and then send enough troops to carry out this new, thoughtful mission. Only then can Republicans ever feel like we did our job regarding the terrible errors of judgment we allowed G. W. Bush to push for so many years.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:46 amIs that really all you got DeMint? Seriously. C’mon.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:19 amIs there not one rational voice in the G.O.P.? Everything is based on over the top rhetoric with a profound lack of substance. Lee Atwater is dead and Carl Rove is an electoral albatross. There is no room for voting your conscience in the G.O.P. No room for voting with your constituency either. Unless they are in lock-step with party line. I’m glad that I don’t have DeMint as a Representative and I’m even more glad that I don’t have to get my health care in South Carolina!
September 24th, 2009 at 4:40 amBehind all of this is the fact that American-style conservatism is inimical to public health.
The Right are in fatal denial of our mutual interconnectedness–especially in a hi-tech, densely-populated society. They want to pretend the Indistrial Revolution never happened. To these folks (mostly white males), the bell tolls for ME.
This is why conservative governance is so catastrophic to public health. Mark my words–we are going to start hearing some seriously bad news on the public-health front.
Recent example: our infant mortality rate–which is nothing to brag about–reached an all-time low under Bill Clinton. But when the Republicans got into control, the infant mortality rate started to go up for the first time inb 40 years.
So it’s literally true: when Republicans get in power, the babies start to die.
Call me Sad.
September 24th, 2009 at 5:46 amnotice how the repukies are swilent when it comes to 43’s war of choice in iraq and the drain that’s causing to the economy? why is that i wonder?
September 24th, 2009 at 5:47 amforget fear… fear nada is outright petrified of me….
September 24th, 2009 at 5:51 amSouth Carolina?? the State with all those military bases and military contracts?? high unemployment rate that prefigures POOR KIDS joining the miltitary?
September 24th, 2009 at 7:24 amThanks Senator DEMENTED!
Next DeMint will be saying more troops and more tax cuts are the solution to the swine flu as though that will be the answer to the predictable price gouging we will see there.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:43 amSo first the GOP says Obama is rushing health care, now DeMint thinks it’s taking too long? Morons…
http://www.political-buzz.com/
September 24th, 2009 at 8:09 amBehold the latest rethuglican talking point…..”too much attention being paid to health care and preventing other legislation” I’ve heard that from several thugs. What a pathetic bunch of losers….too bad they can’t do anything constructive…only prevent any improvement for this country for their own political advantage. Keep the rethugs out of power and this country will survive and improve.
September 24th, 2009 at 8:32 amPolitically Superior says:
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He’s right. Healthcare needs to take a backseat to the war and the economy. Does obama care about a few people who can’t afford health insurance more than our troops and the massive number of unemployed?
What a pathetic argument for a teabagger rethug…why weren’t you whining when the rethugs were in power for eight years and tried to get legislation passed re; flag burning, marriage inequality and other crap issues. You’re a pathetic whining hypocrite. You’re party lost……accept it.
September 24th, 2009 at 8:36 amSen. DeMint:
You’re going too slow! You’re putting the troops at risk, spending so much time on healthcare!
Sen. Grassley:
Slow down! Healthcare lobbyists must review pending legislation!
September 24th, 2009 at 8:49 amWhen delusional DeMint speaks, the collective IQ of the people within earshot plummets 10 percentage points. This guy has lost contact with the folks in his district.
September 24th, 2009 at 9:20 amWohuhuhua @155…
You’ve been reported to the site administrator for blatant, shameless spamming. This is a discussion forum for socio-political issues, not Craigslist! If your company’s products are so good that even Hollywood celebrities are allegedly buying them, then one would think you ought to be able to afford some real advertising by now — or at least hire people who know that indiscriminate and inappropriate spamming is most certainly not a proper or effective marketing tool and serves only to make your employers seem lazy, sloppy, inefficient, and/or unprincipled. If you have nothing to contribute which is in any way even remotely relevant to the discussions on this site (let alone this thread)…get lost.
September 24th, 2009 at 10:11 amDidn’t Bush “take his eye off the ball” in Iraq and Afghanistan to push his failed Social Security plan 2005? Where was Mr. DeMint then?
September 24th, 2009 at 11:29 amI’m pretty sure that every time it rains it’s Obama’s fault.
September 24th, 2009 at 11:37 amHAHAHAHAHA…Republican Demint is accusing President Obama of ignoring the advice of the generals on the ground….Isn’t that rich!
September 24th, 2009 at 11:54 amfear nada says:
Is thay why you far left loons were screaming against Bush and Bolton when they wanted to impose tougher sanctions agains Iran?
No, the reason we were screaming at them was because by “tougher sanctions” they meant “bombs.” Iran is already sanctioned to the maximum possible amount.
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fear nada says:
LOL!
You don’t need to type out that you’re laughing, especially for three comments in a row. We can’t send help from here. You’ll have to call 911.
And I haven’t looked at any of your diversionary attempts, because I don’t have any idea what you’re talking about. It would help if you quit typing with your forehead.
September 24th, 2009 at 12:49 pmI think this matter is quite simple. Regardless of the issue, the Republicans will claim that some other issue takes priority. Regardless of the alacrity with which an issue is being addressed, the Republicans will say that the issue should be dealt with faster or slower, and then say that something else is more important. It’s simple parliamentry obstructionism, sabotage, and misdirection. The only tool they have is stirring the shit and hoping some of it rises up and hits the fan; they don’t have the votes to loft it on their own.
And I still thing JDemento and fern nado should hie off to A’stan if they’re so fracking concerned. They didn’t seem to much give a rat’s arse until they had to rummage around for a distractive talking point.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:03 pmI might add that I’d expect nothing less than a campaign of lies and distractions from Senator Demento. Before he became a pol he was a marketing hack; he’s probably a key tactical adviser to whatever nonentity the Senate Minority leader is.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:11 pmCancelled my TIME subscription 3 years ago – looks like I made the right decision.
The right loves Canada now? Sweet! National Gay Marriage, here we come!
September 24th, 2009 at 1:54 pmIF you guys(GOP) had not started the damn war, in the first place, this would not be an issue.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:20 pmAMERICANS come first assh*le.
@ 171. Oopsies. Sorry. Didn’t mean to imply that Marster Mitch McKonnell, the korruption king of Kentucky was non-existent, simply that he’s not terrribly relevant any more as minority “leader”. Not that he has his troops under control, anyway, as demonstrated by their pronounced lack of civility and competence; they seem to do well with disruption and screwing the pooch but that doesn’t do much for advancing our great nation’s interest, or the interests of her citizens.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:48 pmSo what. Senator DeMint. We already know that you are a far right ideologue and that anyth8ing that the President suggests is not acceptable. As a Republican, I only wish you would have been so vocal during the long, disgusting GW Bush years. nly then would you have been credible now. Bush has ruined our party’s brand and all the cover up by Republicans like you only makes the matter far worse. If you are such a party ideologue, I cannot trust you to insist on what is best for our nation. Also now, one has to wonder if all your bleating is tinged by a large dose of racism. Who knows? Hmmm could be just party first and the good of our country be darned!
September 24th, 2009 at 5:25 pmAs a retired RN who was a supervisor in a huge Sate of Texas hospital, I can tell this politician that if the House and Senate do not pass this health care reform, our most vulnerable children and some adults will continue to use services for preventable problems at the late stage of their illnesses by presenting themselves at a hospital emergency room. This is the most expensive treatment entry level that exists in the medical field and may be more expensive due to a highly developed illness or medical problem. Not only is this a fact, but outcomes are far more likely to be much less effective due to the later intervention dates. This plan is a false savings idea and it simply increases costs of treating diseases, including increased time off if the person is employed. This sort of late intervention drastically increases the cost of intervention and the cost of lost work time for the patient. Besides, Obama is so bright and his intelligence so remarkable he can do both things simultaneously, unlike G W Bush.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:24 am@ 176. mari2RR says: … Obama is so bright and his intelligence so remarkable he can do both things simultaneously, unlike G W Bush. September 25th, 2009 at 2:24 am
Yes, isn’t it great that we’ve elected someone who can walk and chew gum, or walk and twiddle the forbidden BlackBerry, or walk and think, at the same time. I haven’t figured out why the guys that can do that are mostly Democrats while the Republicans seem to put people forward who have trouble with velcro closures, but all that isn’t exactly to the point, is it?
Per a previous comment of mine, Senator Demento is just trying to stop any forward movement on anything. Yes, the health care insurance reform bill is important, as are a number of other issues. President Obama is capable of balancing all of those; that’s why he has a Cabinet with Departmental Secretaries and all those ‘czars’. We can be absolutely certain that the Repubs and reactionaries will disagree heartily and nastily with whatever time and interest President Obama uses to address any of our great nation’s issues.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:23 pmThank you for your sharing.!
September 29th, 2009 at 6:23 amAnd we don’t criticize the president in a time of war when we have troops in the field. saç ekimi
September 30th, 2009 at 12:07 pm