Beck Refuses To Define What He Meant By The Phrase ‘White Culture’: ‘Ummmmm, I Don’t Know’
Beck Refuses To Define What He Meant By The Phrase ‘White Culture’: ‘Ummmmm, I Don’t Know’
In July, Fox News’ radical host Glenn Beck called President Obama a “racist,” saying that he “has a deap-seated hatred for white people, or white culture” — a comment that sparked a successful advertising boycott of his Fox News program. This week in an interview with CBS News’ Katie Couric, Beck said he was “sorry” for the way he “phrased” the claim, but still contended that it’s a “serious question” as to whether Obama is a racist.
During the interview, Couric posed a question from a Twitter user who wanted to know what Beck meant by “white culture” in his attack on Obama. Beck responded by stuttering: “Ummmmm, I don’t know.” He then suggested that he had already answered the criticism on his website, and therefore didn’t want to “make news” by responding to Couric.
“Can you explain what you mean by the white culture?” Couric insisted, “because some people say that sounds kind of racist.” Beck complained that he shouldn’t be the “target” for “asking” if Obama is a racist. Then he turned snarky as Couric persisted with her line of questioning:
COURIC: People just want to know. What is white culture?
BECK: I’m going to see if I can play your game. People just want to know.
COURIC: You know, well, [Twitter questioner] Adrian wants to know.
BECK: That’s good for Adrian.
When Beck said that he’s “not going to get into your soundbite gotcha game,” Couric noted that the interview would be “completely unedited so if you felt like you wanted to explain it, you have all the time in the world.” But Beck still wouldn’t give an answer. Couric gave Beck a final opportunity to disavow his view that Obama is a “racist,” but Beck just dug in:
COURIC: But basically, you stand behind your assertion that in your view, President Obama is a racist.
BECK: I believe that Americans should ask themselves tough questions. Americans should turn over all the rocks and make their own decisions.
Watch it:
So what did Beck mean by “white culture”? A Google search of his website and a Lexis/Nexis search of the transcripts from his Fox News program found no evidence that Beck addressed its meaning.
Transcript:
COURIC: A twitter question is, adrianinflorida: what do you mean by white culture?
BECK: Um, I, I don’t…
COURIC: You said he had a deep-seated hatred for the white culture, what is that? What is the white culture?
BECK: I guess it’s…gosh. I’m so tempted to make news here today.
COURIC: No no, I’m just curious, this was actually adrianinflorida.
BECK: What to do? What to do? Adrian, Go to glennbeck.com. Listen to it. You can hear all of it.
COURIC: No, but you didn’t really address white culture, I think, in your explanation about President Obama, I haven’t seen the whole show, but can you? Just for our purposes?
BECK: Just for your purposes? So this will be a little secret between us?
COURIC: No, for this show, can you explain what you mean by the white culture? Because some people say that sounds kind of racist.
BECK: Really? It’s amazing to me that, for the first time, I think in history somebody can ask a question and say, “Don’t you think that maybe we have several pieces here?” We have several pieces; George Bush says my grandmother was a typical African-American that had, that had her views bred into her. You don’t think maybe we would ask questions about that comment? How is it that the first time I think in history, you should check on it, somebody says, “Hey. There’s some red flags here maybe we should look at?” … How am I? How am I the target for asking questions?
COURIC: People just want to know. What is white culture?
BECK: I’m going to see if I can play your game. People just want to know.
COURIC: You know, well, Adrian wants to know.
BECK: That’s good for Adrian.
COURIC: No but I mean it’s fine if you make a statement though, shouldn’t you be able to defend exactly what you mean by it. I’m not –
BECK: Katie, how many times have you said, how many times have you said something where you’re like, “I didn’t think. What’s white culture? I don’t know. What’s the white culture?”
What? What is the white culture? I don’t know how to answer that that’s not a trap.
COURIC: Mhmm.
BECK: You know what I mean?
COURIC: Yeah I’m not, I’m just, I’m not trying to trap you, I’m just, I think people wanted to know what that meant exactly.
BECK: Well we know Adrian does.
COURIC: Yeah, and you’re not going to answer her?
BECK: I’m not going to get into your sound bite gotcha game which we already are. We already are.
COURIC: No we’re actually, this is completely unedited so if you felt like you wanted to explain it, you have all the time in the world.
BECK: Mhmm.
COURIC: No? Don’t want to go there?
BECK: Nope.
COURIC: But basically, you stand behind your assertion that in your view, President Obama is a racist.
BECK: I believe that Americans should ask themselves tough questions. Americans should turn over all the rocks and make their own decisions.
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Perhaps Beck should ask stormfront. I am sure they could explain white culture.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:02 pmBECK: Americans should turn over all the rocks and make their own decisions.
Such as deciding that you’re a chicken-**** coward, Beck?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:03 pmHow could he have a deep seated hatred for white people? He’s half white!!
September 24th, 2009 at 1:04 pmWhite culture in Mississippi is much different than White culture in Vermont or Italy. That was a poorly chosen phrase.
If White culture is a not easily definable phrase, then the same must go for Black culture.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:06 pmi think i smell the winner of next year’s
Vapid Voters Summit
Courage in Media Award!!
September 24th, 2009 at 1:07 pmGetting voted down here for defending Barack Obama and pointing out he is half white? What’s wrong with you people, does the truth hurt? Go home you NEOCON SCUM!!!
September 24th, 2009 at 1:07 pmBeck is so over his head. His mouth shows clearly that his brain is not working.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:07 pmBECK: I’m not going to get into your sound bite gotcha game which we already are. We already are
Gotcha? Beck is modeling Sarah Palin? “Gotcha games” is what they call any question they can’t answer, especially if they’re asked to explain something they’ve said previously.
Hey, Beck, what magazines do you read?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:08 pmBeck: “but,but, but…there’s a BLACK MAN in the White House..” White Culture=White President
September 24th, 2009 at 1:08 pmi love the way glenn played the sarah surrender card,
by blaming an interviewer for asking him to explain himself…
it would be tragic if glenn’s fans ever saw
what’s behind the curtain.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:08 pmAnd yet this nut job is a hero to most of the tea-baggers…does this confirm your fears regarding their mentallity!
September 24th, 2009 at 1:08 pm“Americans should turn over all the rocks . . .”
No thanks, Bleeeeech! Americans turned over a rock and out you scurried. I don’t want to take another chance like that.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:09 pmGood point, Obama is half white. So why do people always play the race card. He’s half white and half black, to accuse him of being a racist against whites is as ridiculous as saying he hates black people.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:10 pmThis insane Beck must be put into a straight jacket and taken away for treatment. This video from last night is probably faked, but it is nonetheless completely inappropriate and demonstrates his level of insanity.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:11 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZyEVISBJCA
“Define White Culture” – Good sign for when Beck recieves the key to the city.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:11 pmI always thought that white culture was a ham sandwich on wonderbread with mayonnaise and a little iceberg lettuce.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:12 pmIt’s a complete waste of time to discuss any topic about Beck’s comments or beliefs. He is not worth the effort.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:12 pmIt’s that damn Fox network that the real source of the sickness.
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#6,
getting a little ahead of yourself there,
aren’t you twajie?
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“Ssssssssnake!”
:)
September 24th, 2009 at 1:13 pma BETTER question would have been to ask him if his question was not dog-whistle race-baiting…
September 24th, 2009 at 1:13 pmI believe that Americans should ask themselves tough questions
No argument there Beck. Here’s a tough question Beck, what did you mean by ‘White Culture’? Too tough? Maybe you should have refrained from saying it then.
Beck is the King of all Trolls. Can we vote him off any media?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pm18 – and the solution to that is to dismantle government?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:14 pmI doubt Beck can define “culture”, no matter it’s color.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:15 pmGlendolyn Becky needs to pull his head out of Rupert Murderdick’s ass. Only then will we hear the truth.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:18 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
The Nazi invasion of Poland is less hateful that this bastard!!!!!!!
September 24th, 2009 at 1:19 pm***
#23,
he defines his enemies
but he can’t define himself.
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September 24th, 2009 at 1:19 pmGlad to know the culture is linked to the melanin genome. ‘Specially that ‘white culture’. After all, spectrologically speaking, white is not a color, it contains all colors, so white culture must contain all cultures, eh?
Oh, you don’t suppose that Glenda means the American descendent of European culture, do you? I mean, the last thing we’d want is any tie to that nasty freedom-hating French culture, or that colonializing imperialist British culture, or that genocidal culture out of Germany, or any of those other ‘roll over and loose’ cultures from the ‘old country’, right?
We should send the Beckster off somewhere culture free so he can gather his thoughts. How about Antarctica?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:19 pmThis video from last night is probably faked, but it is nonetheless completely inappropriate and demonstrates his level of insanity.
Nothing about this lunatic should surprise us. Remember, his schtick was forged by coming up through the ranks of “zoo radio” (plus a healthy dose of booze and drugs).
Bleeeech’s motto is “getting attention is good; achieving noteriety is better; but being outrageous is the gift that keeps on giving”.
Remember, Bleeeech! is just a morning drive-time shock-jock. Instead of spinning records, he just spins the truth. That’s the only difference.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:20 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
there’s my little tweak.
how ya doin mr. fear?
do you think americans should ask those same questions
about the bs glenn’s shoveling?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:21 pmLet’s see if I have this right.
Beck asserted: BECK: I believe that Americans should ask themselves tough questions. Americans should turn over all the rocks and make their own decisions.
But he refused to answer Couric’s question.
So there’s a “right to ask,” but no no “right” for an answer?
There’s an old legal expression to the effect that “there is no right without a remedy:” Ubi jus ibi remedium.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:22 pmThus, it appears to me that Beck claims a right for himself but refuses to grant that right to others.
comprende nada says:
BECK: I believe that Americans should ask themselves tough questions. Americans should turn over all the rocks and make their own decisions.
Very well put, Glenn.
If you could construct an entire paragraph, I’d ask you to explain why that stupid statement is “well put”, but I’m not going to waste anyone’s time.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:22 pm18 True Liberty:
Why weren’t the Teabaggers out protesting Bush borrowing $1.7 Trillion for his tax cuts? Or not taxing us in a time of war? Borrowing more money we didn’t have. So all that is ok? Having foreign governments, especially China, holding all those T-bills is such a great idea? So please take your pseudo-patriotism and stuff it.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:22 pmouch slappy – you’ll be chasin that one all the way down the street…
maybe you should work with wads of paper and a wastebasket for a while, from short range, just to get the feel of actually getting one through the hole, huh?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:22 pmWe should send the Beckster off somewhere culture free so he can gather his thoughts. How about Antarctica?
Do you think that would be “white” enough for him?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:23 pm***
#31,
and your fav,
meth.
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#29,
ask yourself a tough question.
:)
September 24th, 2009 at 1:25 pmTrueliberty…President Obama could personally find the cure for cancer and yet you right-wing haters would still find some fear based crap to oppose him.
Faux and Limpball could say the world is flat and you would believe it.
Did you protest the 700 Billion dollars and thousands of lost lives in Bish’s trumped-up war.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:25 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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September 24th, 2009 at 1:25 pmYou forgot Applebee’s
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#39,
you’re here.
:)
September 24th, 2009 at 1:26 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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#42,
you’re supposed to be asking yourself that question.
“How could I have missed the Bush bailout protests?”
…
September 24th, 2009 at 1:27 pmSorry everyone, must put on my Schoolmarm hat a moment.
Loose = rhymes with goose. Two oo’s make that sound.
Lose = not to win.
Been seeing it a lot for the past two weeks. You’re welcome. :-)
September 24th, 2009 at 1:27 pm***
#42,
you’re supposed to be asking yourself that question.
“I am beginning to question my political affiliation”
>>>
September 24th, 2009 at 1:28 pmGlenn Beck please crawl back underneath the rock you came from.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:28 pm@ 13. TrueLiberty says: Good point, Obama is half white. So why do people always play the race card. He’s half white and half black, to accuse him of being a racist against whites is as ridiculous as saying he hates black people.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Ha, and in honor of the concept of half o’dis and half o’dat, I’m going to take the Ace of Races out of the deck, tear it in half, and play that. (heh) (snark snark)
This stupidity about race is just a nutty as the Germano-Southern rant about blood. You’d think that people had never heard of DNA, RNA, and the actuality of genetics; oh, sorry, a lot of idiots haven’t bothered to inform themselves and even more people are ignorant, and both groups still buy the old race’n'blood bullshit.
It’s gonna be a long hard slog up that hill…
September 24th, 2009 at 1:29 pmI am beginning to question your political affiliation
Beginning?
Isn’t that pretty much all you’ve done here?
So you and TrueLiberty agree with Beck’s Libertarian rants then?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:29 pmLying Beck says Americans should ask tough questions, yet when a rather simple question is asked of him (namely to explain his own words), he won’t answer, proving again what a charlatan and airbag this liar is.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:30 pmDid anyone actually watch this interview? Did he come across as incoherent as it is in print?
These people need to be called out on this foolishness*
I’m surprised they thought Katie Couric was “safe” after she “went after” Sarah Palin.
*Southern euphemisn for “racist”? Maybe.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:31 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
“White culture” is a doofus throwing a rubber frog into a pot of boiling water on TV.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:32 pmHow come every time I turn over a rock like Beck suggests I see him smiling back at me from down there?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:32 pm@ 24. dixie blood says: Glendolyn Becky needs to pull his head out of Rupert Murderdick’s ass. Only then will we hear the truth. September 24th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
I concur, dixie, but be prepared for the truth you hear being a rather loud fart from Rupert which has been bottled up by Glenda’s noggin.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:33 pmHow could you have missed the Bush bailout protests?
Because they weren’t on MSM or FOX?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:33 pmBECK: I believe that Americans should ask themselves tough questions. Americans should turn over all the rocks and make their own decisions.
Classic ditch ‘n dive maneuver when you’ve been called out in impossible BS.
The thing is, it would have been possible to answer the question in terms of normative culture, the American “melting pot” concept, etc. He could have said that what is today commonly referred to as “white culture” might have been called “English culture” a century ago, when immigration was primarily coming from other European countries. He could have gone on to say that he looks forward to the day when that term is no longer commonly in use because African-Americans will be fully viewed as culturally integrated, but since the phrase “white culture” is still used by many of his viewers he uses it to communicate clearly. He could have thrown in that he’s against multiculturalism and believes in an ongoing process of integration into the American normative culture. That is, he could have said those things if he actually knew anything about race in America, history, multiculturalism, or sociology in general.
There is simply no point in putting such ignorant people on TV at all. There are plenty of hobos living under bridges who you could shave, put into a suit, put ‘em on the air, and they’d be able to give more educated and informed analysis than the current crop of people working at FAUX.
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TedKennedysGhost says:
If White culture is a not easily definable phrase, then the same must go for Black culture.
Not necessarily. If you really look at what they call “white culture,” the only thing that holds up is historical roots in specific regions of Europe, as divided by millenia of linguistic, religous, political and cultural differences. There’s celtic culture, germanic culture, frankish culture, etc. African-Americans don’t really carry over regional African differences nearly as much. The history of slavery in America has basically melted them together and forged a new culture, one which never before existed. So I think one could say that there is a “black culture.” However, what we call “white” is really a loose amalgam of many cultures throughout the world.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:33 pmMikeua26 says:
35 Buckaroo,
They were protesting Bush and in a large way. This was of course current history, were you hibernating?
They were also protesting the Bilderberg meetings, the Patriot Act and the official 9/11 investigation.
How could you have missed the Bush bailout protests?
I want whatever drug you’re on; it looks like fun being in an alternative universe.
Unless you’re describing your Lyndon La Rouche fan club meeting.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:33 pm***
hope katie asked becky about his opinion of w. cleon skousen.
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becky wrote the foreword to 30th anniversary
edition of “the 5000 year leap”.
:)
September 24th, 2009 at 1:34 pmBeck is probably one of the most dangerous men in America right now. He feeds thousands of crazy right-wing extremist conspiracy nuts with new anti-Obama -conspiracies every day. Its only a matter of time before Beck pushes some of his most dangerous followers over the edge. I mean if you really truly believe Obama is a communist, some sort of Marxist anti-white racist, an evil fascist aiming to become dictator of your country, whats the next logical step? How do you stop a dictator?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:34 pm“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire
I can’t believe the media did not accurately cover the 1.5 million man tax protest in Washington a few weeks back.
Because there wasn’t 1.5 million people there?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:34 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Mikeua26 says:
Oh, hey, Mikeua! We’ve been waiting for days for you to explain “what kind of scum” you think George Soros is. Are you ready to answer?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:35 pmblack helicopters will get us all,
unless ron paul saves us from one world government
by declaring anarchy.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:35 pmI can’t believe the media did not accurately cover the 1.5 million man tax protest in Washington a few weeks back. Just shows you how controlled the newspapers really are.
I’m curious… how did you arrive at this 1.5 million number, TrueLiberty?
Most estimates I’ve seen peg it at right around 70,000…
Would you like to see the difference between a couple of million and 70,000?
http://pbump.net/912.html
September 24th, 2009 at 1:36 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Glenn Beck has an UGLY SOUL.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pm***
#51,
becky has many rants, some are libertarian and some are conservative .
but all of them are to the right.
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to be fair he was once a liberal drinker.
:0
September 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pmEEks!!
I posted the wrong video at #14! So sorry.
This is the correct video
September 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9nVpO1Dvfk
You know those lil clown cars Shriners ride around in at parades?
I’m pretty sure that’s all you’ll find inside Beck’s skull.
That, and a bunch of American flags flapping over the amber waves of grain, against a back drop of purple mountains majesty.
This is too easy. I’ll take “Stuff White People Like” for 200, Alex.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pmTrueLiberty says:
Texasrick what is a teabagger? Do you mean like our founding fathers who protested unfair taxation?
They protested the lack of representation. Specifically, the Boston Tea Party was a protest against a tax reduction. Unlike the teabaggers, they were aware that taxes were a necessary part of maintaining society, but they wanted to be able to make the decisions on the tax structure locally.
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TrueLiberty says:
Or the current group of Patriotic citizens which is a mix of Democrats, Libertarians, Republicans and Independents.
They aren’t patriotic. They hate America and refuse to pay their fair share to help keep it strong.
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TrueLiberty says:
Government need not be dismantled. We need to dismantle the Federal Reserve and return to printing our own currency.
Who would print it exactly? In order to get rid of the current system, you would actually have to specify what system you’re proposing. Because you’re being so vague, it sounds like you’re authorizing anybody who wants to print currency to just go ahead. Which would be crazy.
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TrueLiberty says:
We need to limit the Federal Governments taxation power and power in general to how it was when this nation prospered.
The top marginal tax rate (that is, the highest rate charged to the richest people) was over 90% from 1950 to 1963. So you might want to re-think how you word that statement, unless you’re actually for a more progressive tax structure, such as that proposed by President Obama.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:40 pmOkay… but how did you arrive at that number?
You took 70,000 and added 15,000 and then added Sacramento and got 1.5 million??
As my math teacher always said:
September 24th, 2009 at 1:40 pmShow your work.
Americans should turn over all the rocks and make their own decisions.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:40 pm—
I’ll help fear nada with the ones that are too heavy for his little arms….
sure TL,
ask around.
you’ll find lots of goldman sachs fans here…
September 24th, 2009 at 1:41 pmWe need to limit the Federal Governments taxation power and power in general to how it was when this nation prospered.
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September 24th, 2009 at 1:41 pmMaybe we should start be establishing exactly when you decided this time began and ended.
This fits exactly the sht flinging Baboon and the stupidity of his 9-12 farce followers.
According to the Baboon, he’s like somewhat of a tweaking misunderstood avenger fighting eeeveeeeeel both left and right.
But if you asking WTF he is talking about, he doesn’t want to admit he’s full of it. But he knows the boogie man is just waiting to trap him, even via unscripted questioners.
That display alone ought to be enough to put the Baboon in a padded cell. He no longer can differentiate between his own sht sandwich and therefore he actually eats it, then stumbles trying to explain its flavor.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:42 pmBeck: White culture? In what respect, Katie?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:42 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
when this nation prospered,
the top tax bracket
was north of 80%.
i agree – let’s do that.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pmIt looks like Rick Martinez is back to spam another thread and I have the feeling that he is going to be here all afternoon. Right after he got chased off the Think Fast thread, Trajan went back to the stalker blog and got pwned there by one of his fellow administrators.
He cried like a baby and stormed off:
September 24th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Dude! Are you Kurt Nimmo, TL?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:45 pmhttp://clareswinney.wordpress.com/2009/09/14/mainstream-media-tries-to-hide-fact-that-around-two-million-march-to-us-capitol-to-protest/
being on the east coast really gives some an advantage,
when it comes to getting their drink on.
rick must be on what? mojito #7 by now…
September 24th, 2009 at 1:45 pmWas Skeletor there?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:45 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Benn Gleck is visiting his hometown of Mt Vernon, WA this weekend. The town has been inundated with protests that the mayor is hosing up big time. The city council has washed their hands of it.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:45 pmOne reporter, chosen by FauxSnooze gets to attend the invitation only get together.
There should be about 3,000 protesters flooding the town Saturday morning.
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I thought katie was way to nice. I was hoping it was going to be an expose on becks ties to violence. It shouldn’t be that hard to tie him in. He’s definatly guilty.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:46 pmisn’t there someplace a little fringier,
where you could get some hearty hi5’s on this stuff
TL?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:47 pmI can understand why Beck (the Mad Hatter of the tea parties) would want Americans to turn over all the rocks. It’s because, if they do, they’re likely to find a lot more Glenn Becks.
As far as what “white culture” means, it is clear that it is a dog whistle to white supremacists. For Beck to unambiguously define the term would cost him the rest of his sponsors.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:48 pmYou’re just a run of the mill liar. Show a link where Moore advocated violence.
Pathetic attempt I must say.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:48 pmTrueLiberty says:
famous for the “some people say” line
Right after posting this as PROOF of his 1.5 million number…
TrueLiberty says:
Besides being there myself?…..
Yeah, some people say ‘1.5-2 million’ TL. Most estimates I’ve seen from reasonable sources say ‘around 70,000′
September 24th, 2009 at 1:48 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Except TP actually cites their sources. You know, facts that they can and do verify.
strike three, next!
September 24th, 2009 at 1:50 pmSTORMO!!!!
nice squirrel.
how long did it take you to catch it?
Huck’s gonna like that one.
I’ll bet he fricasees it.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:50 pmTrueLiberty says:
The corporate media and the War Street Journal and NPR, the news service of Soros and the foundations and the “progressives” (left cover bankster faction) and Soros Soros Soros and Obama and the corporate-fascist agenda of his one-world masters.
Dale, I hate to break it to you, but John Redcorn is Joseph’s real father.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:50 pmLiberalLinebacker says:
I can’t believe the media did not accurately cover the 1.5 million man tax protest in Washington a few weeks back.
Here is an explanation of how the crowd count given by the D.C. Fire Department of 60,000 – 70,000 people was inflated by liars to 1,000,000 – 1,500,000 people, and then to 2,000,000 people (wingnut rounding error). One of the organizers lied about what ABC reported the DCFD’s count as. That’s how we know it is a lie; if they just wanted a big number, they could have done their own estimate. But they literally claimed that was the DCFD’s count. Which was a lie. A lie you have repeated just now.
Regarding the notion that the media did not cover the 9/12 march, FAUX News took out a full page ad to make the same claim. Here is the response by Rick Sanchez where he clearly documents the extensive coverage that all of the televised news organizations gave to the event. The claim that the media did not cover it was a lie. A lie you have repeated just now.
Do you see a pattern forming here?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:50 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Short answer:
White culture? Yogurt.
As far as Beck not playing the ‘people want to know’ game. Fox News virtually invented the “some people say” as a form of reporting news. (See the documentary “Out-Foxed”)
September 24th, 2009 at 1:51 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Intelligent people fear violent people.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:52 pm***
#82,
reg,
rick martinez’ gf dumped him
for wetting the bed.
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sad.
:(
September 24th, 2009 at 1:52 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I knew you would be a coward. Couldn’t answer the question could you.
You can’t compare them. One is violent(beck) and one is not.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:53 pmmust.find.sunglasses…
glint.from.tinfoil.blinding.me…
i hear choppers?
(hey – i think i haiku’ed!!)
September 24th, 2009 at 1:53 pmMikeua26 says:
No way sir, there were far more than 70,000. I’ve witnessed many protests in my day and this was the mother of all protests. I live in the DC area.
Oh, okay. AS a expert of crowd estimation who lives in the DC area what is your estimate of the crowd size and how did you arrive at that number, exactly?
Thanks.
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aaronk, do you have the money you owe me? I don’t talk to known liars and people who back out on an honest bet.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:56 pm70,000 rounded up in wingnut math => 2,000,000. It makes sense now…
September 24th, 2009 at 1:58 pmI’ll bet the money that aaronk owes me that you can’t prove this blatant lie.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:58 pmhow did you arrive at that number, exactly?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:58 pm—
sub sampling?
Do you have any examples of Beck’s violence?
There was this gem:
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200904090036
And as Marie pointed out today, there’s this HILARIOUS clip of boiling a frog! Fake but still Funny! No?
September 24th, 2009 at 1:58 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9nVpO1Dvfk
STORM says:
The exact same should be said about Micheal Moore. Do you not agree?
Not really. I could picture a world in which Moore had lots of rabid followers who were afraid of mainstream America while pretending to love it. It’s not a big stretch of imagination. But generally, people don’t get as fired up about what he says as he might like them to. Have you seen any of his movies? Of course you haven’t. They’re more informative than rabble-rousing. The emotive connotation is only enough to possibly change your perspective on the facts presented. But not nearly enough to arouse one to any form of action.
The thing is, there really isn’t any comparison on the left to the extremism on the right. It was not always so. During the very late 60’s to early 70’s, the left wing in America was every bit as kooky as the right wing is becoming today, and it was the right wing’s job to keep their heads and try to maintain order and reason. You had the Weather Underground, the Symbionese Liberation Army, and the “scary” era of the Black Panthers running around. Leftists were bombing things, robbing banks and yelling about violent overthrow of the government all the time. But that was a long, long time ago. Today we’re the rational ones, and now it’s yall’s turns to take a joyride on the crazy train.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:59 pmEvery independent news source had the number at approximately 1 million, some higher, some lower, but none lower than 750,000.
Where?
How?
SHOW YOUR WORK!
September 24th, 2009 at 1:59 pmLucky for him that Eric Odom likes golden showers
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arronk just admitted that Moore is not violent and is trying to act like becky is not our modern day Charles manson.
funny and dumb all rolled into one.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:00 pm“Every independent news source”, TKG?
You do know what happens when you say “every”.
Yep, you need to back up what you’re saying by showing that EVERY independent news source did that.
Money where your mouth is, partner.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:00 pm108 aaronk
The Baboon nearly bit off the microphone in one of his recent break downs.
Not to mention the second coat of sht he flung around.
NEEEEXT!
September 24th, 2009 at 2:01 pm2 million in DC? Since I live here, I think I might have noticed the stench if it was anywhere near that number. More accurate number, based on unbiased people who were actually there: 50K-70K.
There ain’t 2 million of you people who can agree on anything — especially all on all of your loony right-wing conspiracy theories. If 2 million of you morons actually show up in one place at one time, it’ll likely create a vast black hole (oops — sorry for playing the race card there) that would swallow all intelligent life into the vacuousness of your idiocy.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:01 pmdbadass says:
how did you arrive at that number, exactly?
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sub sampling?
I have a feeling that most of mikeua’s numbers are calculated over a delicious foot long at Subway, yes.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:01 pmIn this case I think it is safe to say that will NEVER happen…
September 24th, 2009 at 2:02 pmbelaccifer lacca says:
I’m curious… how did you arrive at this 1.5 million number, TrueLiberty?
Let me guess, Beck told him so
http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909150013
(my previous comment stuck waiting moderation for some reason)
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I have to go teach class now. If any of you argumentative types want to move on to holocaust denial next, please bother someone else.
And Mikeua26 officially jumps the shark.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:03 pmKatie should be more careful. She is lucky he didn’t decide to go ahead and blow his brains out right on her show.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:04 pmEveryone here knows what happened. Who do you think you are convincing? Yourself?
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“I have to go teach class now.”
What class are you teaching — how to vastly overestimate crowd sizes in one easy step? How to read “My Pet Goat” while holding the book upside down? How to pretend to love your country while actually hating everything it stands for? How to lose a debate by throwing out ridiculous arguments without any support?
Good luck with that — I pity your “students”…
September 24th, 2009 at 2:06 pmThere’s no possible way it could have been less than 3/4 of a million.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:06 pm—-
Which is far less than 1.5 million so if it weren’t for that class eventually we would have haggled you down to something approximating reality
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#109,
quite a crowd.
which one are you, twajie?
:)
“guys”?
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September 24th, 2009 at 2:06 pmMikeua26, we’re so glad you weighed in but we will take our numbers from a credible source, not someone with an agenda that is failing.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:07 pmaaronk says:
See #114… took 2 min on Google.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:07 pmaaronk is right Fred. Beck’s only violence is inciting other racists, and the eventual violence he is destined to do to himself.
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109 TedKennedysGhost says:
Guys get real, the establishment will never admit to how many protested and the mainstream media is wholly owned by the likes of GE and various European and Domestic banks who own the Fed. PUUUUHLEEASE!
Every independent news source had the number at approximately 1 million, some higher, some lower, but none lower than 750,000.
Gee Ted, where did you find “independent media”? Perhaps you’ll be so generous as to specifically cite , or better yet, link to, these independent media so that their independence and credibility can be “independently” judged.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:07 pm***
#131,
why aren’t you asking yourself
“tough questions”?
:|
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i love the puppytainment,
but what to do with all the squirrels?
dbad – recipe suggestions?
September 24th, 2009 at 2:08 pm127 aaronk
Got me a live one here!
So, could you tell us who exactly was holding a gun to the Baboons head and had him continue is demented rant?
How about the time he attacked his child because the child was playing with a toy, and the Baboon lost it?
September 24th, 2009 at 2:08 pmMichael Moore- presents information that can be statistically verified, actually goes out and interviews sources and presents opposing viewpoints to what has been sold to people as fact, all backed with facts.
Bin Gleck-hides in studios and boils rubber frogs after telling everyone he is just an entertainer and anyone who listens to him is an idiot.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:08 pmMikeua26 says:
I’ve been to several inaugurations, my father took me to ML King’s famous speech, I’ve been to major sporting events, Gentlemen, there’s no way in hell that there were as few as 70,000 people
True. That’s because there were two events on the Mall at the same time.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:08 pmWhat’s sad is that you once again dodge the question rather than answer it. I guess that is the same as answering, right?
Since you can’t or won’t address the question, you must be wrong.
that’s sad.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:09 pmFor a definition, just look back to the 1960’s with the Selma March against CPE and JS Bach.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:09 pmGee Ted, where did you find “independent media”?
September 24th, 2009 at 2:09 pm—
That’s easy. You just make it up as you go along. It’s magical
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TL made an accurate count of the protesters from the black helicopter. He just counted heads and multiplied by 4 while blinking furiously from the prop wash.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:11 pmIgnore Glen Beck and give a hooray for Couric. She is one of the few reporters that is asking the right questions. I don’t see any other reporters who are doing a good job in these type interviews. Most of the reporters are doing cream puff reporting.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:11 pmTrueLiberty says:
These were the numbers reported by Independent news sources. News sources untainted by large corporate influence. I would never cite numbers on something like this from the NY Times, Washington Post, any FOX or CBS news outlet or affiliate. This is just to give you a few examples of where not to get numbers or info about government protests. it will always be inaccurate from CFR/Trilateral owned media.
Right.
Care to post those ’sources’ and explain their methodology?
‘Cause ABC, the DC Fire Department and those other ‘corporate shills’ all did a pretty good job of explaining how they arrived at the 70,000 number.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:11 pmAs an Anthropologist, IF he is referring to the US culture base, then he is referring to the radical white people’s movement associated with the skin heads, neo-Nazis and other “militia types”. These people typically sequester themselves away from the rest of American Society (thank goodness) or like the skin heads, are active home grown terrorists. So, if he is coddling up to these crazies, he is not better then them. Scary thought that he has a TV program where he can express his “tendencies” to supporting such elements.
There is NO Black culture, or White culture or Ethnic Culture in the US. There is a melding of many different life ways and cultural adaptations which make up the American Culture. Every new immigrant, every immigrant community melts into our melting pot each adding their own flavor and style to the broader American Culture.
So, Mr. Beck, if you want to be a white supremacist, that is fine and your are entitled to your ways and beliefs. Just don’t try to foist them off on the rest of us as being mainstream or even “normal”.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:11 pmHey, did you guys know aaronk is a welcher and a pussy?
September 24th, 2009 at 2:11 pm***
#126,
becky said it was “1.7 million”.
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are you calling becky a liar?
?
September 24th, 2009 at 2:11 pmHe’s talking about Fox News. They are independent of reality.
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i’m thinking something like “black helicopter squirrel”:
sauteed loin of squirrel with woodear fungus and black truffle, served with squid ink linguine and puttanesca??
served with a leggy Barolo, of course.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:12 pmTrueLiberty says:
saying it doesn’t make it so. Prove it.
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Do you think it’s not obvious what pathelogical liars you all are?
September 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pm–
Then it should be easy to prove it so…
TrueLiberty says:
HOW did you arrive at that 1.5 million number?
‘independent’ sources doesn’t cut it… SHOW YOUR WORK!
September 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pmDo you define pathelogical liar as someone who makes claims they can’t back up? That fits you pretty snuggly.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:14 pm“Independent sources” in wingnut speak means Wing Nut Daily and the FReepers.
BOTH lumps of idiots were creaming their panties at the 2 mill number reported by catfish face Maglalang.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:14 pmYeah, aaronk… Obama hated his grandmother.
jackass.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:15 pmSo let’s see if I’ve got this right…
First, Beck tried to claim that he doesn’t understand what the words he himself chose to use mean or why he said them. That’s crap, pure and simple. Make no mistake…Beck knows very well that answering Couric’s questions publicly and truthfully could be very damaging both to himself and the network which employs him.
Beck clearly doesn’t regret or see anything wrong what he said, which means that the only thing he’s “sorry” about is the fact that he’s being asked to face the consequences for what he chose to say…but aren’t people like him the ones who are always pontificating on the importance of “taking personal responsibility”?? He might not want to acknowledge (possibly not even to himself) precisely what he meant when he chose to use the words “white culture” — but people never use words without having at least some idea of what they’re trying to convey by them, even if their definition of those words is incorrect. The only reason why Beck got snarky with Couric is because he knew that she had him backed into a corner. While there might not have been any way that she could have forced him to answer honestly on camera, his only other option was to be blatantly evasive.
Oh, and just for the record…am I the only one who sees it as unbelievably ironic that Beck should use the phrase “white culture” while accusing Obama of racism. In my opinion and experience, many of the people who make a habit of using that phrase in that particular context are white supremacists — who are not only racists, but frequently intolerant of other religions and ethnic groups as well. In that context, “white culture” usually doesn’t simply mean Caucasians — while this may have changed somewhat with the times, it has historically usually been used to refer very specifically to Caucasians of Protestant Northern European descent.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:15 pmReally, these numbers for the 9/12 march should be covered in a bigger study by the University of Idontremember.
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#164,
uh fred,
it’s twajie (rick martinez)
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fyi.
:)
September 24th, 2009 at 2:16 pmtombaker
September 24th, 2009 at 2:16 pmThe brain is said to be delic but this one seems a bit small…
Way to go Katie! This is like Sarah Palin round 2.
For all you commenters tuning in, the two best today are El Bruce #59 for his intellectual take on the meaning of culture, white or otherwise, and Galmud #62 for his dire prediction about what could happen next. Special props for the Voltaire quote.
Read ‘em again, people.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:17 pmThey’re all so damned ignorant today that it’s hard to tell them apart.
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here’s your sign!
September 24th, 2009 at 2:21 pmTo the trolls trying to defend Glenn Beck’s supposed non-violence:
Glenn Beck threatens to choke Michael Moore to death.
Glenn Beck “jokes” about poisoning Nancy Pelosi.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:21 pmaaronk, you should avoid syllogistic logic. It just isn’t your forte.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:22 pm169 aaronk
THERE! Proof positive you are a Baboon Beck defender.
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TrueLiberty says:
TedKennedysGhost says:
Mikeua26 says:
STORM says:
aaronk says:
Are any of you guys planning to define “white culture” for us? It should be pretty easy, since it’s on Glenn Beck’s website somewhere.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:23 pm***
#173,
fred,
the math is simple.
ignorant = twajie.
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you’ll catch on.
:)
September 24th, 2009 at 2:23 pmBin Gleck makes nonsensical claims and cries when challenged
September 24th, 2009 at 2:24 pmTrolls make nonsensical claims and cry when challenged
Therefore Trolls are Bin Gleck.
aaronk, bin Gleck is not going to be happy with you if you say you missed his show where he poisoned the Speaker of the House.
Or are you like the old time Catholic bishops who used a mace when they fought in battle to avoid the ‘he who lives by the sword, shall die by the sword’ thing?
September 24th, 2009 at 2:28 pmJoe, that makes
aaronk = trajie
TrueLiberty = trajie
Mikeua26 = trajie
etc.
they do have that in common, you must admit.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:29 pmTedKennedysGhost says:
Guys get real, the establishment will never admit to how many protested…
The only count that was actually made was given by the D.C. Fire Department, which they do as a matter of course for public safety reasons. Nobody else claims to have counted. You have nothing whatsoever to base your claims of higher number on. The people who threw out the “millions” numbers were explicitly lying about ABC’s report of the DCFD’s estimate. There is no other source. All of the other people who reported high numbers were quoting that same source.
It would be one thing if somebody else made a high count and we were comparing which one was more reasonable and arguing about the motivations behind the counters, but you have no basis for the high count claim.
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I’ve been to several inaugurations, my father took me to ML King’s famous speech, I’ve been to major sporting events…
Three personal claims made by a wingnut = three lies. I can deduce from your statement that you have never been to an inauguration, to MLK’s speech or to any sporting events in your life.
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aaronk says:
Yeah, inciting racists….like when Beck called his grandmother a “typical white person”…oh wait, that wasn’t Beck,
The hallmark of a racist bigot is that they can’t tell the difference between an honest discussion about race and actual racial bigotry.
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aaronk.
Did you listen to the quote you linked to?
Obama is talking about overcoming racism and not being scared to question our own assumptions about people.
Explain to me how that is the same thing as this gem from Glenn Beck: http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200907280008
September 24th, 2009 at 2:31 pmIn Becky’s world people of color are the spawn of Satan, but if they convert to Mormonism and promise to blow the descendants of Joey Smith, after a few generations their offspring will be “white and wholesome”.
It’s all true but the blowing part. I made that up. It’s probably an unfair swipe at Mormons. Just because Joseph Smith and Brigham Young used to rape small children in the name of Gawd, doesn’t mean that all their sheeple still do.
But there is no denying that Mormonism colors the way Becky sees the world.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:32 pmPlease, unless you learn to understand humor and sarcasm, you really shouldn’t even post anything….it’s a waste of everyone’s time
Ahh, so burning and poisoning people you disagree with is funny?
September 24th, 2009 at 2:33 pmSalem must have been a LAUGH riot!
dude, that is none of the above, and for you to defend it reveals a mental disorder. Seek help.
It’s not humorous to suggest such things if you have a healthy mind and to use them to make any kind of a point is even sicker.
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Please, unless you learn to understand humor and sarcasm, you really shouldn’t even post anything….it’s a waste of everyone’s time
What some people consider to be funny says a lot about them.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:37 pmPlease, unless you learn to understand humor and sarcasm, you really shouldn’t even post anything….it’s a waste of everyone’s time
Does this remind anyone else of the anal retentive officer in Good Morning Viet Nam?
September 24th, 2009 at 2:37 pmaaronk…since when is threatening someone with a violent act (the Moore reference) humorous? Sure, it may have some shock value to it, but…if a comedian had told me something like that, I would still report it to the police.
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Not me, I don’t really think we should make a distinction between Americans based on something that a 2 year old can figure out (color)
Read this again.
Slowly.
This makes no sense.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:39 pmHmmmmm, ‘white culture’ hatred . .
OH, I know, how ’bout the KKK?
WHITE enough for ya Becky???
September 24th, 2009 at 2:40 pmBeck did none of the above, and it is clear to anyone with a brain and ears that he was being sarcastic and humorous.
Right.
Funny that Glenn Beck finds pretending to do these things ‘funny’ though.
And that you agree…
September 24th, 2009 at 2:40 pmaaronk says:
No, burning or poisoning or choking someone isn’t funny. Beck did none of the above, and it is clear to anyone with a brain and ears that he was being sarcastic and humorous.
So its just the thought of burning, choking and poisoning someone thats funny?
September 24th, 2009 at 2:40 pmWe get it, aaronk. It’s “humor” and “sarcasm” when your heroes threaten to murder anyone you don’t like. I’m sure you’re happy to brush off any and all death threats that come from the lunatic right wing.
From your past behavior, no one here expected any better of you.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:42 pmbut minions of his don’t always have the tools to understand the difference even if he is kidding about killing someone.
The fact that you don’t understand that puts you outside the arena of rational discussion.
Charles Manson did the same thing and people died.
beck did it and a man may have been hanged for it.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:42 pm191 aaronk
One thing is color, you dumbass.
Even some animals can distinguish COLORS.
But morons like you and the Baboon Beck, speak like this well into their 40’s
Now, define for us what the Baboon meant by “white culture”
September 24th, 2009 at 2:43 pmNot me, I don’t really think we should make a distinction between Americans based on something that a 2 year old can figure out (color)
Read this again.
Slowly.
This makes no sense.
I think he is referring to the crayons he uses to make notes to himself while typing.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:43 pmBoy, it sure is sad that TrueLiberty had to skeedadle before he could share those ‘independent’ sources with us… seems like aaronk needs a new distraction…
September 24th, 2009 at 2:43 pmaaronk says:
No, burning or poisoning or choking someone isn’t funny. Beck did none of the above, and it is clear to anyone with a brain and ears that he was being sarcastic and humorous.
The problem with that theory is that everyone knows that conservatives don’t get humor. It’s why so many of you thought that Colbert was real.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:43 pmsince people who listen to beck don’t always understand that he is joking about violence then the danger should be obvious.
If, on the other hand, you don’t mind if people get hurt, then you can and obviously will rationalize it.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:47 pmFred says:
but minions of his don’t always have the tools to understand the difference even if he is kidding about killing someone.
Oh but yes they do have the tools! And they are not violent people. Didnt you see the signs at Becks 9/12 rally? “We came unarmed. This time.” See? Unarmed = peaceful
September 24th, 2009 at 2:47 pm/snark
There’s no such thing as white culture because ‘white’ is not an ethnic group–it’s defined by what it’s not-black.
You can talk about Italian culture, or Irish culture, or Russianculture, or Spanish culture–but white culture? A feast of lutefisk and borscht and dolmades and corned beef in a béchamel sauce?
No European would sit still for a characterization that lumps all those traditions together, and would assume–correctly–that the only folks who would use that caegory is someone who know nothing about any of the real traditions.
It’s the same people who invoke the triumph of White European culture who squeal at being exposed to Spanish–the language of Cervanted, Lope de Vega and Calderón.
Our religions are Semitic–our classical civilization was preserved for us by the Arabs–and the most important Christian theologian was an Afrocan. And myfather’s cultural traditiion, Pushkin and Tchaikovsky and Tolstoy–was not considered ‘white.’
And in America, our foodstuffs–good old fashioned potatoes and tomatoes and corn on the cob–are not European. Cowboy culture is Mexican culture–what’s more American than a rodeo? And of course now we have a new generation of bigots who still want their rock and roll.
If there is a white culture, most Americans are pig-ignorant of it. They only take it out of the attic when it’s time to how how much better they are than brown people.But they wouldn’t know Marlowe from Wordsworth, or Scarlatti from Scriabin, and would bolt in a sweat from a performance of Giselle and run for a place where white folks are dancing like Africans. Or Maybe a movie where Marion Michael Morrison drawls, “All right compadre…”
White culture? They don’t know what the first word means, and sneer at the second.
But we’re better than them because of it!
September 24th, 2009 at 2:48 pmspecialK is so cute when he pretends to know stuff
what a pansy
still think the 2cnd amendment only applies to right wing cowards, specialK?
September 24th, 2009 at 2:49 pmI find it interesting that Obama talking about his grandmother whom he loved (loves still, I’m sure) very much is somehow irrefutable EVIDENCE of his RACISM…
But Beck talking about poisoning people and pretending to boil frogs and immolate staffers is ‘Funny!’ and obvious ‘Sarcasm…’
September 24th, 2009 at 2:50 pmMaybe what aaronk is trying to tell us is that Republicans and their supporters find violence funny. That they have taken the idea of slapstick humor to the next level and that it is a pity normal people can’t find death and dismemberment and poisoning humorous.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:51 pmbelaccifer lacca, it’s aaronk’s proven irrational logic with an obvious agenda.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:51 pmalso, maybe someone should inform aaronk’s wife and kids about what he finds humorous.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:55 pmThe best thing about Glen Beck is that he is somewhat entertaining and makes the twisted logic of children seem rational.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:56 pmWhite culture in Beck’s world means that white people believe they have a right to defile the American flag and still call themselves true Americans while brown and black people can never be true Americans or be suitable for the whitehouse.
The Glen Becks of the world are nothing more than racist trailer trash wanna-be traitors.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:58 pmhoodathunk says:
Does this remind anyone else of the anal retentive officer in Good Morning Viet Nam?
That guy was a non-com, and he was in desperate need of a b.j.. The CO in that film understood that the non-com was abusive, petty and mean, therefore he was sent to Guam.
What these trolls are doing is far beyond ‘anal-retentive’, they’re just mean.
And Guam is too good for them.
September 24th, 2009 at 2:59 pmHeres some more classic jokes from the master of right-wing comedy, Glenn Beck
http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909010014
September 24th, 2009 at 2:59 pmJesus, how does this guy get on tv. I bust my ass every day and have to live paycheck to paycheck, but this idiot can just make up complete nonsensible BS and get paid a fortune? Seriously what qualifications does he have that deserve his paycheck or prominant position within the “media”?
Meanwhile, Beck wants to “see if he can play her game?” Uhm, seems like every single time someone on Fox News opens their mouth, Beck included, the first words out are “some people say”. So Beck isn’t playing Kouric’s game because Fox news INVENTED that game.
And the complete condescension he offers in response to every question is disgusting. He does the same thing on his show on a regular basis. He asks his loaded questions and when somebody answers it reasonably, Beck returns with mockery, condescension, and/or insane screaming.
“Good for Adrian?” That is his response to someone asking a question? ANd yet he follows up by not only NOT answering or taking responsibility for his own words, but to then say HIS questions deserve to be asked and if politicians have nothing to hide they should be answered.
Then again, Beck also believes that people confronting him with his own words is some unfair “trap”. Right…if quoting him and asking what he means is a trap, then what does Beck think his daily TV antics are which include the incredible “oligarh” conspiracy theory?
I guess this is modern republicanism in a nutshell. Anything they do or say is fair game, or a “serious question” that should be responded to…but they should never be held accountable for anything, least of all their own words.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:00 pmaaronk says:
Not me, I don’t really think we should make a distinction between Americans based on something that a 2 year old can figure out (color)
So what does a 2 year old see when there’s an overly tanned white person next to a light skinned black person? And you believe the tone of people’s skin are all that is seen by “white” culture? Really? Are you that blind and ignorant?
Never mind, your posts answer the question in abundance.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:00 pmI guess this is modern republicanism in a nutshell. Anything they do or say is fair game, or a “serious question” that should be responded to…but they should never be held accountable for anything, least of all their own words.
Somehow asking someone to clarify a statement they’ve made is ‘gotcha’ journalism…
Maybe if Katie Couric had tracked Glenn down on his vacation and demanded an answer he would have felt more comfortable explaining himself.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:04 pmOverall I found the entire interview to be utterly and completely pointless.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:05 pmXisithrus says:
Overall I found the entire interview to be utterly and completely pointless.
Much like Beck himself…
September 24th, 2009 at 3:06 pmThey surround us
We surround them
Pull back the curtain
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September 24th, 2009 at 3:06 pmSTORM says
September 24th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Michael Moore is doing the same exact thing as Glenn Beck. How do you not see that?
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Examples, please, of when Moore called the POTUS a racist? Or when he made references to “white culture”? Or when he advocated violence? Or when he just made crap up without any evidence to back it up and then backpedaled when challenged?
September 24th, 2009 at 3:09 pmbelaccifer lacca says
September 24th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Somehow asking someone to clarify a statement they’ve made is ‘gotcha’ journalism…
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Well, it can be embarrassing when somebody questions sh!t you’ve made up.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:11 pmwhite culture=becky=racism
September 24th, 2009 at 3:14 pmThe real question, my fellow Americans, is why is this lying, traitorous, racist, corporatist pig Ben Gleck still on the air to spew his worthless bile?
September 24th, 2009 at 3:17 pmgully foyle says:That guy was a non-com,
Actually it was Lt. Steven Hauk. And he was into imaginary French sock puppets. Imagine that.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:17 pmmisscoleopteramolly says:
Examples, please, of when Moore called the POTUS a racist? Or when he made references to “white culture”? Or when he advocated violence? Or when he just made crap up without any evidence to back it up and then backpedaled when challenged?
Dont you remember when Moore said “Shame on you Mr. Bush!”? That was a vile thing to say was it not?
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Ironic Beck couldn’t stand the scrutiny of Katie Couric….oh my..
September 24th, 2009 at 3:27 pmWell, it can be embarrassing when somebody questions sh!t you’ve made up.
Sure, just ask TrueLiberty, Mikeua26 or aaronk!
September 24th, 2009 at 3:28 pmaaronk says:
No, burning or poisoning or choking someone isn’t funny. Beck did none of the above, and it is clear to anyone with a brain and ears that he was being sarcastic and humorous.
Backpedalling: sure, he was promoting violence, but he wasn’t actually committing violence himself. And obviously it was sarcasm because wingnuts live in opposite-land, so when he was promoting violence, that meant he was promoting non-violence!
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aaronk says:
where were you guys when Tommy told me to fu(k myself with a switch blade and threatened to kick my ass?
Good thing Tommy doesn’t have a national platform on a cable TV show, huh? I have a feeling if somebody offered him such a job he’d tone it down.
Comparing anonymous internet commenters to televised pundits is apples and oranges.
Wow, are you still traumatized over that? I already offered you a hanky. Maybe we need to organize some group therapy sessions for trolls who’ve been called nasty names by us mean ol’ TP liberals, and you can help each other through the healing process.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:30 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
where were you guys when Tommy…
Oddly, I don’t think any of us found that funny.
Understandable seeing as you had just defended the insurance companies that Tommy feels killed his uncle, but not funny.
Nor did I find your threat to meet him with your ‘2nd Amendment’ rights funny.
Or understandble.
You are a jackass, aaronk.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:32 pmUnderstandable seeing as you had just defended the insurance companies that Tommy feels killed his uncle,
Incidently, I also believe that the insurance company killed his uncle… my post made it seem like I doubted Tommy.
I don’t.
At all.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:33 pmwhere were you guys when Tommy told me to fu(k myself with a switch blade and threatened to kick my ass?
Well most of us were probably cutting him a little slack due to his circumstances. I don’t recall anyone laughing.
As to the ‘threat’, he asked you to join him for a discussion. I believe it was you who brought up the 2nd Amendment.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:34 pmtirelessly wrong.
(i don’t think that’s a virtue)
is awrongk related to william kristol?
September 24th, 2009 at 3:35 pmWhite culture: capitalism, conservatism, republican party, etc.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:37 pmI still don’t understand why the stupid trolls go to such lengths to defend Becky’s indefensible crap.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:37 pmHow typical of you to omit the exchange and your part in it that led up to what Tommy said.
You made fun of a family tragedy on the day it happened, oh yeah, you and becky think those kinds of things are funny.
scummy scum aaronk. You are scum.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:38 pmSeriously. Any sane person would be embarrassed by Becky’s stupidity. He even admits that he has no idea what the words spilling from his mouth mean. It takes a special breed of moron to defend an admitted idiot like Becky.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:39 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
It’s more about us being right. They hate that and will lie, cheat and steal to keep anyone from knowing it.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:39 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Are you ready to defend this?
Nope.
Why are you defending Beck?
September 24th, 2009 at 3:42 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Yeah, weirdly enough, aaronk, this Glenn Beck guy you’re falling all over may in fact see a few differences between blacks and whites.
For example, you know this W. Cleon Skousen character who changed Glenn Beck’s life? The guy whose book, “The 5,000 Year Leap,” Glenn promotes again and again on his show? The guy he calls his mentor?
Well, the thing is, aaronk, this Skousen fellow is a racist:
September 24th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Get your facts straight moron!
Who laughed?
Who said it was clearly ’sarcasm?’
No one.
Get your facts straight, moron.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:43 pmaaronk says:
Let’s go back to that thread, shall we Fred. Tommy told me to fu(k myself with a switch blade far before we had any conversation. Get your facts straight moron!
If you’re too weak minded to ignore random suggestions for you to perform actions, then that’s not a very complimentary statement of your maturity. That’s not a threat, that’s a suggestion for you to apply an appropriate treatment to extract your head from where it’s currently lodge.
Your whining and complaining is classic for the insecure emasculated right wing male who’s so afraid he’ll catch the “gay” that he behaves like a prepubescent girl.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:44 pmwhy is katie couric even interviewing boo-hoo glenda becky? a) he’s not even marginally interesting. b) all she did was validate his erroneous belief that he’s relevant.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:45 pmBy your own logic, aaronk, that was just Tommy being humorous and satirical. He is the gentlest of souls and would never dream that you might find it offensive or threatening.
He was just kidding.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:45 pmaaronk says:
you have a serious problem Fred…you spout out lie after lie after lie on here, and then accuse others of the same. I don’t know how you live with yourself.
Project much?
You know they have many successful treatments for paranoia, phobias and hatreds that you exhibit. May I suggest you ask your doctor for a good mood stabilizer? Or are you waiting for universal health care because you can’t afford the treatment you so clearly need and deserve?
September 24th, 2009 at 3:45 pmall she did was validate his erroneous belief that he’s relevant.
No, she also confirmed my belief that he is not.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:46 pmaaronk says:
A couple of isolated instance where liberals apologized for their words don’t correlate to someone like Beck who not only won’t apologize but repeats them. Your ignorance of this difference just shows your bias, prejudices and ungrounded hatred.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:48 pmYou are too much of a coward to do that. You are a liar and if we went back to the thread you would be caught in yet another lie.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:49 pmHoodathunk says:
By your own logic, aaronk, that was just Tommy being humorous and satirical. He is the gentlest of souls and would never dream that you might find it offensive or threatening.
He was just kidding.
Yeah, interesting how when Beck says something hateful, it’s a joke, but when aaronk is on the butt end of something similar it’s a huge deal. Talk about thin skinned hypocrite.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:49 pmaaronk,
I’ve been reading your nonsense today (and unfortunately yesterday). But some here think it’s good to keep you around to practice their slap down skills.
When you said let’s get back to the thread then complain about something Tommy wrote – that’s not what this thread is about.
It’s about time we flag your ass instead of just voting you down. You don’t add anything.
Way back on post 155 the Crazy Cat Lady said this:
“Hey, did you guys know aaronk is a welcher and a pussy?”
We all have the misfortune of seeing you here everyday – why don’t you do us a favor and go away. This site is for adults, not petulant little jerks.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:49 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
aaronk says:
trollspotter, there are no racist comments in the 5,000 year leap at all. You should read it.
Coming from a racist, we’re sure that you can’t identify racism. That’s an indictment of you, not proof of no racism.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pmTrollspotter says:
Yeah, weirdly enough, aaronk, this Glenn Beck guy you’re falling all over may in fact see a few differences between blacks and whites.
For example, you know this W. Cleon Skousen character who changed Glenn Beck’s life? The guy whose book, “The 5,000 Year Leap,” Glenn promotes again and again on his show? The guy he calls his mentor?
Well, the thing is, aaronk, this Skousen fellow is a racist
Thats guilt by association. Glenn Beck would never ever in a million years pull a stunt like that.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:51 pmhooda is right aaronk, you can’t deny it. Don’t you get humor or sarcasm? That’s what you called becks vile statements.
You lose again loser.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:52 pmaaronk-
September 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pmThe author was a crazy racist! Here’s an article that explains it. You should read it.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/16/beck_skousen/index.html
I love the way the stupid troll tries to play with moral relativism by stacking a couple of unfortunate remarks from every “leftist” who ever lived and comes up with as many examples as one of Becky’s shows.
And he does it every show while the rest of his network does the same. The difference in volume of stupid remarks makes our case for us. Becky is an insufferable idiot who spends hours each day shoving his foot further down his throat.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:53 pmHey aaronk, are you a fellow mormon, the church that thought black people shouldn’t be priests until just a few years ago? Is that why you’re defending racists?
September 24th, 2009 at 3:54 pmgalmud says:
Beck is probably one of the most dangerous men in America right now. He feeds thousands of crazy right-wing extremist conspiracy nuts with new anti-Obama -conspiracies every day. Its only a matter of time before Beck pushes some of his most dangerous followers over the edge. I mean if you really truly believe Obama is a communist, some sort of Marxist anti-white racist, an evil fascist aiming to become dictator of your country, whats the next logical step? How do you stop a dictator?
You guys have seen this?
http://www.startribune.com/nation/61066722.html?elr=KArks:DCiUMEaPc:UiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr
The 51-year-old Sparkman was found this month hanged from a tree near a Kentucky cemetery with the word “fed” scrawled on his chest, a law enforcement official said Wednesday, and the FBI is investigating whether he was a victim of anti-government sentiment.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:55 pmSkousen was just another white religious right wing fascist that saw commies in the woodwork while spreading his new world order eugenics that whitie is the best. Yawn…
September 24th, 2009 at 3:55 pmaaronk, here you are actually defending a man who calls African American children “pickaninnies.”
Just a little while ago you were defending calls to poison, burn, strangle and bludgeon your political enemies to death.
You tell on yourself with every post.
September 24th, 2009 at 3:57 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I am the furthest thing from a racist
You just defend ‘em?
September 24th, 2009 at 4:05 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Punked By Fred’s still posting? why?
September 24th, 2009 at 4:08 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
racists never think they are racist, just as child molestors never think they are doing anything wrong.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:09 pmMore Glenn Beck humor. Beck brings up the idea of a nuclear genocide in the Middle East if “10th century barbarians” take over the region
http://mediamatters.org/research/200609130010
September 24th, 2009 at 4:10 pmStop the demonization and coexist already
September 24th, 2009 at 4:10 pmIt doesnt matter what Spin Wreck or Lush Rimjob or Baity Rhetoric said, says or will say in the future. They dont, in the bigger picture, matter.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:12 pmhttp://crooksandliars.com/2007/04/11/colbert-does-damage-control-for-his-own-on-air-racial-slur
Colbert already beat you to the ‘furthest thing from a racist’ thing, aaronk… and he was funnier.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:13 pmoh man, I am so sorry Aaronk. This just in from the EPA. Republicans with a twisted sense of humor were just added to the endangered species list.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:15 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
aaronk says:
First explain how Obama talking about his grandmother was racist…
We need to understand your concept of racism, ’cause it seems very, very strange.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:17 pmYou are such a tease, aaronk
September 24th, 2009 at 4:19 pmI suppose your defense of a racist doesn’t qualify?
September 24th, 2009 at 4:20 pmGod that man is a hateful little toad. I don’t understand how anyone with an IQ out of the room temperature range could stand to listen to him for more than a minute.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:23 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I think that following aaronkies logic that he may very well be a child molestor since he probably doesn’t think he is one.
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Syllogism, thy name is aaronk
September 24th, 2009 at 4:27 pmFirst of all, typical = all?
Since we’re using dictionaries to argue, here you go:
typ·i·cal
Pronunciation: \?ti-pi-k?l\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Late Latin typicalis, from typicus, from Greek typikos, from typos model — more at type
Date: 1609
1 : constituting or having the nature of a type : symbolic
2 a : combining or exhibiting the essential characteristics of a group b : conforming to a type
1all
Pronunciation: \??l\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English all, al, from Old English eall; akin to Old High German all all
Date: before 12th century
1 a : the whole amount, quantity, or extent of b : as much as possible
2 : every member or individual component of
3 : the whole number or sum of
4 : every
5 : any whatever
6 : nothing but : only: a : completely taken up with, given to, or absorbed by b : having or seeming to have (some physical feature) in conspicuous excess or prominence c : paying full attention with
7 dialect : used up : entirely consumed —used especially of food and drink
8 : being more than one person or thing
So by saying that his grandmother exhibited ‘typical beliefs’ for someone from her group he actually meant that ALL white people are wary of black people and that was further proved when he went on to say that she overcame her initial assumptions and grew to love not only Barack but his father?
Weird.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:29 pmbecks a racist. YOu defended him. You are a liar.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:29 pmSo your whole point on being here today was to agree that bin Gleck is a racist?
September 24th, 2009 at 4:30 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
aaronk says:
Do you see how you’re wrong, aaronk?
September 24th, 2009 at 4:35 pm“BECK: I believe that Americans should ask themselves tough questions. Americans should turn over all the rocks and make their own decisions.”
Ahhhh, now I get it! Someone turned over a rock and the comedian Glen Beck popped up. I could never decide if he wasn’t just flushed from somewhere or if he had popped out from underneath a rock.
Comedian…I’m still waiting to see your head explode live on air. Don’t disappoint me boy.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:38 pmScarborough went on to say that he was starting an “honor roll” of conservatives willing to come out against Beck. He made multiple references to Beck’s “race-baiting,” and “wallow[ing] in conspiracy theories.” Scarborough concluded: “Not only is Glenn Beck responsible, but conservatives who don’t call him out are responsible.“
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/22/msnbcs-scarborough-denoun_n_295309.html
September 24th, 2009 at 4:38 pmHey!
That pussy and welcher is still here! And he’s a violent bigot! Who would have guessed!
aaronk! Fred’s behind you with a BIG smile!
RUNNNNNNNNN PUSSYYYYYYYYYYY
September 24th, 2009 at 4:38 pmHmmmm, didn’t bin make some comment about the President having some sort of problem? Something about white people? No, I guess that wouldn’t be calling him a racist. Must have meant he needed to see an ophthalmologist.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:39 pmI see your spin, but you know for darn sure if GW called Obama a “typical black person”, you would call it racist….tell me I am wrong?
September 24th, 2009 at 4:40 pmGlenn Beck called President Obama a “racist,” saying that he “has a deap-seated hatred for white people, or white culture”
Did you forget what thread you are on, bonehead?
September 24th, 2009 at 4:40 pmglen beck admits he is a racist
Glen Beck racist comment has led 36 advertisers to pull out of his show
I think that number is up considerably by now.
ABC airs Beck “racist” comment as example of how “dialogue” on Gates arrest “hasn’t always been polite or pretty”
You ever going to admit you are wrong about anything. See that’s why you will never be taken seriously.
You are a true sock puppet.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:41 pmtell me I am wrong?
Ok, I’ll play your game. Your are wrong.
In case you missed it, let me turn up the volume…YOU ARE WRONG!
September 24th, 2009 at 4:42 pmsocks and puppets have a purpose, aaron does not.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:43 pmWhat’s with “George Bush says my grandmother was a typical African-American that had, that had her views bred into her. You don’t think maybe we would ask questions about that comment?”
A taco short of a combo platter.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:43 pmaaronk, tell us how the white guys are being oppressed, please elaborate.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:43 pmis calling someone a “racist” mean that you are a racist?
September 24th, 2009 at 4:44 pmFred, I don’t think white people are oppressed.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:46 pmis calling someone a “racist” mean that you are a racist?
In your pathetic world, pretty much.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:47 pmaaronk says:
Does typical mean the same thing as all, aaronk?
September 24th, 2009 at 4:49 pmCan you explain how Obama telling a story about his grandmother challenging her pre-conceived notions is somehow ‘racist?’
what exactly does that mean? Please, answer the question since you brought it up originally. Does calling someone a racist IN ANY WORLD mean that you are a racist?
September 24th, 2009 at 4:51 pmOppression is at the heart of racism. Where is the supposed oppression? Is Obama going to round up all the whities? Is that your interpretation?
September 24th, 2009 at 4:52 pmCrayon time. When someone brings up race where race is not an issue it means they are focused on it. Declaring the President of the US has a ‘race issue’ because he is doing his job and doing it better than his predecessor and saying it is somehow linked to race, makes him a racist.
Ok, pumpkin?
September 24th, 2009 at 4:55 pmyes, by classifying someone as the “typical (plug in any race)” is racist. If someone said that OJ Simpson was just the typical black person, or that Bernie Madoff is the typical Jew, would that be OK to you? Certainly not to me.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:55 pmOh, I missed the part that when confronted with a question about what he meant in regard to white culture said racist shucked and jived his way to commercial.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:56 pmI see your spin, but you know for darn sure if GW called Obama a “typical black person”, you would call it racist….tell me I am wrong?
Okay, you are wrong.
I would wonder why GW would be telling a story about his mythical black grandmother but if he told the exact same story about challenging and overcoming pre-conceived notions it would not be racist.
You are wrong.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:57 pmIf someone said that OJ Simpson was just the typical black person, or that Bernie Madoff is the typical Jew, would that be OK to you? Certainly not to me.
Is that what Obama was saying? Or is that what you are twisting his words to mean?
September 24th, 2009 at 4:59 pmOnce again, I will point out that much worse things were said by beck and you defended them as humor.
You are as transparent as saran wrap.
September 24th, 2009 at 4:59 pmand, yes, aaronk, I said shucked and jived. You see, I have this strange idea that every ethnic group in America has brought something to the melting pot. Slang, music, attitude and most especially food. Yes, they bring things to our table that can make our country all the better. Burritos, Dirty Rice, Sushi, Chitlins, you name it, it makes us a more colorful, more inclusive place to live.
September 24th, 2009 at 5:06 pm@ 47. Crazy Cat Lady says: Sorry everyone, must put on my Schoolmarm hat a moment. Loose = rhymes with goose. Two oo’s make that sound. Lose = not to win. Been seeing it a lot for the past two weeks. You’re welcome. :-) September 24th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
CCL/S’Marm. I apologize for that error. It’s not one I usually make. Perhaps I’m simply losing in my wrestling match with my own geezerhood today. Or maybe it’s just the distraction of a wealth of stupidity coming from our friends on the right. And the confusion! The bouquet on uncorking that is almost overwhelming. So many idiot trolls to whack and so little time.
September 24th, 2009 at 5:07 pmSo, somehow, in erron’s view, Obama was comparing his grandmother to a murderer and to a swindler.
Gotcha.
September 24th, 2009 at 5:09 pmit also seems that, by aaron’s own definition of ‘racism’ Beck’s statement that Obama has a ‘deep-seated hatred of white people or white culture’ would PROVE that Beck is racist… after all if there is a white culture that applies to all white people Beck is racist!
Therefore, Aaronk has defended A RACIST!
Q.E.D.
/half-sarc
September 24th, 2009 at 5:14 pmaaronk says:
I believe it is all that should be seen by any color of person. My daughter is 2, and I can tell you for sure that she sees no major difference between the black kids and the white kids at church. That is the way it should be.
I certainly won’t disagree with you there.
I would like to inform you that there is a difference between ignoring the race of individuals in determining how you behave towards them, and also intentionally ignoring the history of race and racism in America and its pervasive effects that continue today.
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aaronk says:
How about a closer comparison, Randi Rhodes, left wing, progressive talk show host, thinks it’s funny to MURDER the president of the United States.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=8778
Are you ready to defend this?
Absolutely not, that was indefensible. So while you’re defending Beck’s remarks, nobody here is denfeding Rhodes’ remarks. She was promoting violence, and she got called on it. Then she apologized. Beck has not. So, there’s your comparison: you defend violent rhetoric, we do not. Your pundit refuses to apologize, ours did.
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aaronk says:
I am the furthest thing from a racist
Using “color blindness” to ignore the effects of racism is hardly far from being a racist. Jim Crow laws were supported for a century by people who weren’t personally racist, but acted as if the opinions of racists and racial minorities were of equal weight. So while one might not ban black people from their lunch counter because they didn’t like black people, they would do so because they wanted to keep the business of those who did. And just like you, they’d claim not to be personally racist. Yet they supported the perpetuation of racially unjust systems.
September 24th, 2009 at 5:22 pmwhere were you guys when Tommy told me to fu(k myself with a switch blade and threatened to kick my ass?
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September 24th, 2009 at 5:23 pmI don’t know. I was probably making STORM,conservative guy, Pat Pomery, fear nada, or some other poser look like a dipshit….
aaronk:
What do use to remove the chewing tobacco stains from the hood of your Klan robe?
Are you into
WHITE CULTURE?
September 24th, 2009 at 5:23 pmWho’s GW?
Do you mean George W. Bush?
Well, for that comparison to work, first of all, Obama would have had to have called George W. Bush a typical white person, wouldn’t he? But he didn’t.
You’re a very dishonest person, aaronk.
September 24th, 2009 at 5:29 pmaaronk says:
yes, by classifying someone as the “typical (plug in any race)” is racist. If someone said that OJ Simpson was just the typical black person, or that Bernie Madoff is the typical Jew, would that be OK to you? Certainly not to me.
Most white people of her generation were racist. Stating such doesn’t make him a racist, but truthful. Your accusations and justification of white racism is nothing more than excuses for your own personal racism towards Obama and anyone not like you. You are a hypocrite, a liar and a racist and unworthy of citizenship in our country let alone posting privileges on this blog. You are the definition of lunatic fringe.
September 24th, 2009 at 5:30 pmaaronk doesn’t realize Obama described his grandmother as someone typical of her era and where and how she grew up. That’s not racist, that factual. But the lunatic fringe never tires of twisting words and fabricating accusations, because the truth has a liberal bias.
September 24th, 2009 at 5:32 pmThe trolls forgot what their talking point for today is: Federal Reserve. They apparently believe Bernanke is a czar of President Obama.
September 24th, 2009 at 5:36 pmRacism is deep in America, and Beck and aaronk are two examples of why.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:13 pmA Google search of his website and a Lexis/Nexis search of the transcripts from his Fox News program found no evidence that Beck addressed its meaning.
Beck says a lot of goofy things, like claiming that a university looked at a picture of the 9-12 DC crowd and said there were 1.7 million people in attendance.
September 24th, 2009 at 8:46 pmwow, everyone seems to be really excited about Glen Beck. As long as I’ve tracked reader comments, no other think progress post has ever received the more than 300+ comments currently up.
September 24th, 2009 at 10:34 pmBesides all the idiot comments — you know who you are — I again refer everyone back to ElBruce #59 and galmud #62 for a rational and informed take on the current debate. The rest of you, if you can’t wrap yourselves around this, no hope for the stupid.
BECK: I believe that Americans should ask themselves tough questions. Americans should turn over all the rocks and make their own decisions.
The “but only if they watch FOX and specifically, my program” is obviously implied.
September 24th, 2009 at 10:52 pmAmericans should turn over all the rocks and make their own decisions.
And under those rocks? Glenn Beck.
September 24th, 2009 at 11:10 pmYes, it was pointing out a negative characteristic of his white grandmother and then put her into a category with all wihte people.
September 25th, 2009 at 8:25 amaaronk says:
Your argument is so stupid it is just pathetic. It shows how seriously brainwashed you are since you are regurgitating it when it makes no sense at all. First it makes no sense to just change black for white. The difference in the context makes that meaningless. For decades at LEAST the argument HAD been made and is still being made in some areas that blacks are inferior by virtue of being black. The argument that whites are inferior because they are white is an argument that no one could possibly be taken seriously in this culture. Second he was talking about the preconceptions OF white people prevalent during this time. This really isnt in dispute. IT would be more like McCain saying if Jamaal saw me in my 4,000$ suit he might think I am a typical white powerbroker. It isnt about the being less than morally or intellectually because she was right it was about the cultural assumptions among white America at that time. Nothing anywhere NEAR racist. You are brainwashed you heard this and repeated it without thinking about it or you are seriously stupid. It doesnt come NEAR making sense to claim that was a racist statement
September 25th, 2009 at 8:52 amaaronk says:
It was pointing out a cultural preconception among whites OF THAT DAY. One no serious person would dispute. It cant possibly be taken as an argument that whites are inferior because they aer white. Your argument is simplistic and basically stupid
September 25th, 2009 at 8:57 amThis clown gets too much press – even from TP
September 25th, 2009 at 10:37 amGully Foyle @ 215 -
September 29th, 2009 at 5:58 pmI think hoodathunk was referring to Bruno Kirby’s character, who was a lieutenant with no sense of humor.