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Levin Escalates War Against Beck: ‘You’ll Keep Making A Lot Of Money, But…You Won’t Make A Difference’

In an interview with Katie Couric, Fox News pundit Glenn Beck said John McCain would have been a worse president for this country than Barack Obama. As ThinkProgress reported, Beck’s comments generated an angry response from right-wing radio host Mark Levin, who called Beck “mindless,” “incoherent,” and “pathetic.”

Yesterday on his Fox News show, Beck responded to Levin’s criticisms. “I’m getting all kinds of heat from conservatives,” he said. “No, I shouldn’t say conservatives. I think I’m getting heat from Republicans.” After ripping Republicans and Democrats for being essentially “the same thing,” Beck justified his earlier comments about McCain by saying the country would not be witnessing tea party protests if he were president:

BECK: If John McCain were in office, you might hear some complaints about cap-and-trade here and there, but a march on Washington? I don’t think so. Fat chance! … At least now we’ve been tossed into the boiling water and we’re awake.

Watch it:

Right-wing radio host Mark Levin immediately fired back with another attack on Beck, whom Levin calls “the 5 pm’er” (because Beck’s Fox show airs at 5 pm). “I’m told the 5 pm’er said today that if John McCain were president, would there be marching in the street?,” Levin began. “I thought to myself, are you not aware of even recent history that the entire Reagan revolution rose up against the RINOs [Republicans in name only]?”

Levin quickly escalated the tone of his criticism against Beck. “Have you no sense of your own history?” he said, addressing Beck. “This is why you refuse to consider yourself a conservative! Still searching around in the dark, in the shadows, trying to figure out who you are and who we should be. Some of us know who we are and what we must be! And we also know where we must go!” Then Levin took a personal jab at Beck:

LEVIN: If you’re not going to be politically sensible and have a strategy and have an end-game, you’ll keep winding up on weekly magazines, you’ll keep making a lot of money, but in the end you won’t make a difference.

Listen here:

Many on the right are worried about Beck’s ascendancy. Peter Wehner, a former political adviser to President Bush, recently wrote that Beck is “harmful to the conservative movement” because he’s “erratic,” “bizarre,” and is too interested in “conspiracy theories.” Rush Limbaugh recently suggested to Politico that Beck’s role in promoting the 9/12 protest was “cheap and disingenuous.” And MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough said conservatives need to call out Beck’s “hatred.”



92 Responses to “Levin Escalates War Against Beck: ‘You’ll Keep Making A Lot Of Money, But…You Won’t Make A Difference’”

  1. tombaker says:

    pass the popcorn please.


  2. Badmoodman says:

    Levin Escalates War Against Beck: ‘You’ll Keep Making A Lot Of Money, But…You Won’t Make A Difference’”

    – - Another reason to trust Glenn Beck: “No Gimmicks!”

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/erinb/more-reasons-to-trust-glenn-beck-nxv/


  3. raynman says:

    I think I might just faint.

    I agree, in essence, with Mr. Levin for the 2nd time!


  4. Badmoodman says:

    Beck: At least now we’ve been tossed into the boiling water and we’re awake.

    – - Ribbit, ribbit.


  5. eyeswideopen1 says:

    LOL!!!!!!

    SUDDENLY…..the reich wing glue sniffers are all ‘concerned about Becks ascendency’ as soon as he is critical of one of their own.

    What a bunch of losers in EVERY sense of the word!


  6. Hoodathunk says:

    Normally, I find cannibalism to be too disgusting to even contemplate.

    In this case, tombaker, care to share your popcorn?


  7. sscncturn64 says:

    This piece of sht beck has been getting alot of media coverage lately,rightfully so. I like to think that we are starting to see him go down. He is one sick individual and he is dangerous. Has beck mentioned the censor taker who was found dead? How about that wingnut btch bachmann,has she mentioned it?


  8. paleolib says:

    Nice to see the wingnut fratricide kick into gear. I suggest tossing whichever one of these two survives the catfight into a pot of boiling water, you know, just to wake them up.


  9. konchster says:

    Beck is an uneducated clod Can’t the right at least find somebody well educated to clomp along in lock-step with.


  10. RobertSeattle says:

    Beck, You don’t have to HOPE you are WRONG.


  11. hellinabucket says:

    So Beck says McCain would be a worse president than Obama and uses the 75,000 teagaggers stroll in DC as proof.

    Beck, walk away from the crack pipe.


  12. zxbe says:

    I don’t think either of them is going to make much of a difference.


  13. LizCoro says:

    Beck is as relevant as the PET ROCK stooopids . .

    Lunatics who actually paid money for a r-o-c-k !!

    This, too, shall pass as did the pet rock and Becky will IMPLODE and hit the bottle AGAIN!!


  14. tombaker says:

    i’m starting to think

    CAGEMATCH

    is the ONLY way this feud’s getting settled.

    who wants to split the pay-per-view?


  15. The Dogfather says:

    If Levin knows where he and his ilk must go, then what’s taking them so long to leave? I’m sure there’s a certain dark lord of the underworld (and I don’t mean Cheney) who’s fixing a nice, warm place for them all…and take Becky and his Beckinazis with you, please…


  16. pete says:

    I’ve raised my wager to $10.00 that Becky will be the first media figure to call President Obama a “N word” in proximity of an open microphone. Unfortunately, even that may not shut him up if Rupert continues subsidizing his show.


  17. har5125 says:

    Conservative circular firing squad. This will be fun to watch!


  18. pete says:

    Where are the trolls? I would think they would be eager to call Mr. Levin a RINO traitor communist socialist fascist.


  19. LibertyLover says:

    Personally, I think Beck is the perfect poster-boy for the Conservative movement:
    “erratic,” “bizarre,” “cheap, and disingenuous.”


  20. gully foyle says:

    This was inevitable. Republicans have traditionally turned on each other when they are out of power. It starts with tit-for-tat then turns ugly.

    Circular firing squad is a good analogy.


  21. BuckarooBanzai says:

    Alex, I’ll take Republicans Eating Their Own for $1000, please…


  22. LibertyLover says:

    Heh. To hear Rush Limbaugh call anything disingenuous is ironic, no?


  23. Fred says:

    march on washington? That’s funny shit!


  24. Fred says:

    you won’t make a difference.

    Sorry but I think there already may be one man dead of hanging because of beck and his ilk.


  25. tom says:

    Watching a bunch of whacko right-wing rant-jockeys criticize each other over their ridiculous opinions is just priceless!

    Before this is all over, it will be much more entertaining than a topless mud-wrestling contest between Bimbo Bachmann and Flailin’ Bailin’ Failin’ Palin.


  26. Xisithrus says:

    Its like stepping in the same land mine [dog crap] three times


  27. Purple State says:

    Po(m)p Will Eat Itself.

    For all of those who say that Beck is simply an entertainer…he certainly does not sound like an entertainer in this clip. He sounds like a professor backed into a corner when his students question his teachings one moment, and now he sounds like a professor forced to defend his tactics when his own faculty questions his statements.

    At least Jon Stewart and Bill Maher have a studio audience to laugh at their material. Beck’s forced to subsist on popularity, and by doing so has flared the anger of the side that sees him as a conservative.

    I think we’re all just starting to realize that Beck is representing a third dimension in the conservative-liberal spectrum. He’s not left-wing or right-wing; he’s anti-wing.


  28. digdiggy says:

    Now if the Republifcuks would also devour Eric “Milhouse” Cantor along with each other this freakshow would be worth the price of admission.


  29. Rich H says:

    How come aaronk isn’t here defending his favorite poster boy? That’s right, on the last thread (after dozens of posts) he said he doesn’t defend racists.

    We’ll see.


  30. grey matter user says:

    Yet again, Mr. Beck hits on the truth and yet completely fails to undertand what that truth is. This is a far too common trend for Mr. Beck, and it really makes one wonder which is more correct… that Mr. Beck is purposefully dishonest, twisting and distorting the truth to suit his own beliefs… or that he’s far to intellectually lacking to actually understand that which he observes and he simply jumps at shadows.

    He states that if John McCain had been elected and done the same things that Barack Obama is doing that “conservative” would not be holding Tea Parties.

    He’s correct.

    But yet again, he doesn’t actually understand why. The REAL reason why is two-fold.

    1) McCain is a Republican.

    Republicans don’t oppose policy, they oppose party. If a Republican introduces legislation, they support it. If a Democrat introduces the EXACT SAME legislation, they oppose it. Why? The legislation did not change. Only the party introducing it did. They would support McCain out of blind party allegience even if McCain were implementing the exact same policies that Barack Obama is implementing.

    But Mr. Beck ignores that truth.

    2) McCain is white.

    Even if we still had a Democrat president, but it were a white man and not Barack Obama, many of the people at the Tea Parties wouldn’t be protesting. They aren’t against “big government”… they were fine with it when Reagan did it. They aren’t against “huge deficits”. They were fine with Bush’s. They are against the “scary Kenyan”.

    So, Mr. Beck… you are correct. We wouldn’t have the Tea Parties if McCain was president, even if he had the policies as President Obama. We wouldn’t have them because many Republicans are blind party followers, simply repeating talking points and completely ignoring the actual issues, and because (to borrow from President Carter) “There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president.”


  31. Xisithrus says:

    Its interesting how soon a word, with one definition, can become an all encompassing pejorative once pundits and politicians get a hold of them.


  32. Fred says:

    grey matter user, I believe that if mccain had been elected there would be real marches on washington as our economy would currently be steeped in a deep depression.


  33. Xisithrus says:

    At least now we’ve been tossed into the boiling water and we’re awake.

    Says an egg noodle.


  34. Leftside Annie says:

    WINGIE WAR!!!

    Woohoo!! Pass the popcorn!


  35. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    i don’t believe anything becky

    says unless he’s crying.

    :(

    real tears.

    :)


  36. joe cantwell says:

    ****

    “you’ll keep making a lot of money,
    but in the end you won’t make a difference.”

    *

    mr. levin,

    for becky, “making a lot of money”

    is the point.

    :|


  37. Just Hormiga says:

    PRICELESS! The cancervatives are turning on Beck!


  38. Pilotshark says:

    Rich H says:
    How come aaronk isn’t here defending his favorite poster boy? That’s right, on the last thread (after dozens of posts) he said he doesn’t defend racists.

    We’ll see.

    hes like the rest of the trolls they do not know what to do as no one has told them how to react or act either way.

    rushboilbuttbo is having a hard time rewriting his talking points. It will depend on who (beck, Levin) will suck on his boil. before he gives the trolls there marching orders.


  39. HomerSexual says:

    So, Beck and friends have been “thrown into the boiling water’ huh?

    Obviously, it was not ‘boiling’ enough or maybe he didn’t stay in there long enough. Of course, as lard-laden as Beck is he’d be better deep-fried.


  40. okie dokie says:

    Tossed into boiling water?

    Like Becky tossed those baby frogs into a stewpot on his show?

    Isn’t torturing the helpless a red flag for psychopathic behavior?


  41. okie dokie says:

    “Jinx” on the boiling water posts, HomerSexual.


  42. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    all of this makes that time magazine cover story

    on becky looks pretty stupid, doesn’t it?

    :)


  43. willclarke says:

    “If you’re not going to be politically sensible and have a strategy and have an end-game, you’ll keep winding up on weekly magazines, you’ll keep making a lot of money, but in the end you won’t make a difference.”

    Mark Levin inadvertently indicts capitalism! What makes money and is popular is not necessarily good. In Beck’s case, it definitely isn’t. (Of course, neither is the trash that comes out of Levin’s mouth). But the point is, capitalism is an amoral system that rewards money making over all else. Michael Moore would be proud.


  44. ritenow says:

    “Ultimately, Beck himself is just a histrionic intellectual mess: willing to latch onto any hysterical accusations and conspiracy theories that provide some momentary benefit, no matter how contradictory they might be from one moment to the next.”
    Glenn Greenwald

    That about sums it up!


  45. ElBruce says:

    BECK: If John McCain were in office, you might hear some complaints about cap-and-trade here and there, but a march on Washington? I don’t think so. Fat chance!

    This constitutes blatant admission that the teabaggers are racially motivated. McCain was for bailouts as much as anybody. He’s no more of an anti-government-spending guy than Bush was, and the right wing knows it.


  46. pags2 says:

    Let Beck continue his rants. People are getting to see what the conservative movement is about. He is a walking, talking ad for the Dems. And what could be better than having him on Fox.


  47. dietrich says:

    Did this psycho really toss frogs into boiling water on TV?
    Missed that one.
    tony and lido


  48. joe cantwell says:

    ****
    #42,

    looks = look

    **


  49. okie dokie says:

    Mark Levin:
    “We must take back the Republican Party!
    “We must take back the Republican Party!

    Too late, Levin.

    Bush already took it back, to Wal-Mart, for a store credit.


  50. Xisithrus says:

    “Ultimately, Beck himself is just a histrionic intellectual mess: willing to latch onto any hysterical accusations and conspiracy theories that provide some momentary benefit, no matter how contradictory they might be from one moment to the next.”

    Its why I use the metaphor “Spin Wreck” for Glen Beck, not that I am demonizing him in any way just giving my view of his theatrical ‘Enlightenment thru Entertainment” spin


  51. Wiz says:

    By 2012 will be there be a full scale battle over the control of the Republican party, it will be the radical right versus the moderate Republican. At this point the craziness of the radical right is drowning out the Repub moderates. The Repub moderates are on the retreat and are slammed by the radicals everytime they attempt to stand up for moderation. Beck makes his own crazy contribution, even at this moment he is one TV saying “nothing makes sense to me anymore”, I guess I have to agree with him on that one.


  52. tombaker says:

    i’m already popping up extra corn,

    for the R primary season.

    sarah surrender vs. mittens the mormon vs. reverend governor biblebee vs. even-crazier R’s yet-to-be-announced !!??

    are you kidding me!?

    get ready for the hootfest of a lifetime!!!!!


  53. Xisithrus says:

    Nothing isnt supposed to make sense. It just isnt.


  54. diffrntdrummr says:

    This is just great! A trashmouth idealogue going after a hypocritical sleazebag.Geez…who do we root for on this one?


  55. pags2 says:

    The radical right represents a large voting bloc. Republicans will be forced to choose a platform of the radical right or more in tune with middle of the road voters or lose another election. The radical right is a sure thing and I don’t see any moderate that will be able to unite the party. A few more election losses and the radical right will have to make a choice. They cannot exist as a regional party because that does not win the Congress or Presidency.


  56. Purple State says:

    diffrntdrummr says:

    This is just great! A trashmouth idealogue going after a hypocritical sleazebag.Geez…who do we root for on this one?

    “The enemy of my enemy?”

    Eh, I think this is one match that we just sit down and let the second- and third-stringers fight out.


  57. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    it’s early but the trolls aren’t

    exactly rushing to defend becky…

    **


  58. tombaker says:

    i’m sure they’ll ssssssneak back in later….


  59. tom says:

    Peter Wehner, a former political adviser to President Bush, recently wrote that Beck is “harmful to the conservative movement” because he’s “erratic”

    Yup. Poor Glenda. PMS (post-marijuana syndrome) is a b*tch, isn’t it?


  60. pops7154 says:

    poor stupid beck got it wrong. is not the NRP it new name is RCP witch means republican communist party it reflection as they want to rule and destroy American AND SELL OUT ARE COUNTRY` SO EVERBODY START USEING IT,S NEW NAME.RCP


  61. Kenneth says:

    Pete say:
    Where are the trolls? I would think they would be eager to call Mr. Levin a RINO traitor communist socialist fascist.

    Here I am! FYI. Conservatives do not walk lock-step with each other like the loony left. We call ‘em as we see ‘em.


  62. tombaker says:

    kenneth – you and your con buddies have the morals of cats and the integrity of lizards

    go peddle your weak bullshit somewhere else.


  63. ralph the wonder llama says:

    I always get a kick out of it when tighty-righties try to claim that the left is the side that’s known for party discipline.

    I’m never sure if it’s the result of a fundamental inability to recognize the strengths and weaknesses of the various political ideologies, or just simple projection.


  64. Politically Superior says:

    When are liberals going to figure out that beck is not a republican? He’s a fiscal conservative libertarian. He attacked bush as well.


  65. tombaker says:

    it’s a mechanical process for them, like boxing. you punch me, i punch you, repeat. other than a few stlylistic variations, that’s all they believe the process to be. what

    content is irrelevant to them,

    it’s just a series of “moves”, without a real value component.

    the right is where all truly, pathologically, cynical minds end up.


  66. pete says:

    So the stupid troll is here to defend Mr. Levin’s comments about Becky?


  67. tombaker says:

    PS

    that’s all just garbage (i’m sorry)

    why don’t you just tell us he’s a goddamned half-elf unicorn wrangler

    get a grip.

    the hysteria has all you righties sounding like characters in shlocky ’50’s sci-fi movies.


  68. dietrich says:

    Kenneth: I’ve lived in
    Florida for 15 years and can tell you you’re full of it.
    Your typical Florida right-winger couldn’t think without his talking points. Like you.
    tony and lido


  69. Politically Superior says:

    Dietrich, I’ve lived in florida for over 20 years and YOU are wrong.


  70. tombaker says:

    straight out of the fever swamp of snakehandlers, sweatshops, and cocaine bankers, huh PS

    i’m so surprised.


  71. tombaker says:

    sorry dietrich. NOI.


  72. Politically Superior says:

    I don’t live near a swamp, neven knew a snakehandler, and never seen a sweatshop here in Tampa. Nice try generalizing tom, you moron. I live in a liberal CITY. Yes a city, not a farm. Suck a fat one tom.


  73. Reggie says:

    Politically Superior:

    Don’t you have anything better to do with your life than to troll Think Progress and stalk Charles Johnson?

    Twajie, your stalking of Mr. Johnson is almost as creepy as your obsession with Keith Olbermann.


  74. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    #73,

    “We call ‘em as we see ‘em.”

    **

    see this?

    :|


  75. tombaker says:

    i know what goes on down their PS,

    it’s disgusting.

    and you people have the gall to bag on the west coast.

    -par for the course.


  76. tombaker says:

    R’s, by the way, very bad off these days

    Gene Lyons:

    In short, hardcore opposition is mainly confined to the Republican “base,” itself increasingly confined to the South.
    Why has Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, started making conciliatory noises? Consider these remarkable statistics:
    Voters in the Northeast overwhelmingly dislike congressional Republicans. The party’s favorability rating there is a
    minuscule 7, yes 7, percent. Moreover, it’s a paltry 13 percent in the Midwest; 14 percent in the West.
    Only in the South is the GOP politically relevant, with a 50 to 37 percent advantage over Democrats.

    suck that fat one, dummy.


  77. Kenneth says:

    TommyBakerBoy,
    go peddle your weak bullshit somewhere else.

    See what I mean! The Progressive Far-Left Liberals on this site talk lock-step from the same garbage-can, hate speech playbook by calling my comments weak bullshit. Typical non open mind comment from you.


  78. Kenneth says:

    Tommy Boy!
    BTW
    I don’t agree with what Mark Levin said about Glenn Beck but I agree with some of his conservative points of view.


  79. bluesunflower says:

    BECK: If John McCain were in office, you might hear some complaints about cap-and-trade here and there, but a march on Washington? I don’t think so. Fat chance!

    I used to post on a site where I had quite a few people who flat out hated me. If I said something like “jalepenos taste awful” they’d go to GREAT lengths to refute me, tell me all about the positives of the jalepeno and how popular it REALLY is, and basically call me a moron.

    HOWEVER, if someone ELSE said the exact same thing, they’d sheeple all over it “oh, I totally agree. Jalepenos suck donkey balls.”

    So in a way, Beck is correct. Just not in the way he’d like to be.


  80. joe cantwell says:

    ***

    #77 and #78,

    two comments in a row.

    you’re upset.

    :|

    friend of yours?

    :|


  81. Reggie says:

    #80

    Joe you have the wrong link for
    Kenneth the troll’s internet buddy.

    Birds of a feather flock together.


  82. joe cantwell says:

    ^^^

    #81,

    reg,

    you might be right.

    i was over here.

    **

    kenneth?

    :\


  83. Reggie says:

    Kenneth won’t be back tonight.
    It time for Mark Koldys massage,
    the kind with the happy ending.


  84. Doom Siren says:

    I have no respect for either Beck or Levin… but I do agree with Levin’s assessment of Beck and his ilk.

    Somebody take a picture. I’m sure this won’t happen again in my lifetime.


  85. lebowski says:

    does anyone have a link for rightwing sites talking about this incipient feud? Hotair covers it, at least to some extent. Anyone got a line on other discussions?


  86. Reggie says:

    I received a tip via email,
    KKKenneth associates with
    our trolls at this circle jerk blog


  87. tombaker says:

    See what I mean! The Progressive Far-Left Liberals on this site talk lock-step from the same garbage-can, hate speech playbook by calling my comments weak bullshit. Typical non open mind comment from you

    waa, kenny. your self-martyrdom is SO compelling.

    call the aclu and tell them all about it, and you’ll have offset part of my contribution to them this year.

    i don’t think you ever told me,

    whether you’d be backing mittens or sarah, for 2012.

    i’m sorry.


  88. EugeneDebs says:

    Kenneth says:

    You are a liar you are a fool you are an ignorant brainwashed punkass troll. If you werent so stupid that it was a waste of time I would educate you. Since you are too stupid to understand pretty much anything I wont waste my time


  89. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    My guess is that these conservative talk show hosts are jealous of all the attention that Beck is grabbing from them. The truth is that none of these hate mongers that call themselves “conservatives” will leave a positive impact on anything. They are too full of themselves and money is their god.


  90. EugeneDebs says:

    Kenneth says

    You are an ignorant brainwashed pile of dogshit. You are stupid beyond human comprehension and you are a flat out liar. We get that you are so stupid you are just regurgitating what you were TOLD to think but its pathetic. You should just STFU and stop embarassing yourself


  91. ElBruce says:

    Politically Superior says:

    I don’t live near a swamp, neven knew a snakehandler, and never seen a sweatshop here in Tampa. Nice try generalizing tom, you moron. I live in a liberal CITY. Yes a city, not a farm. Suck a fat one tom.

    Personal claimes made by a wingnut, let’s see… lie, lie, lie, lie lie. Yep. It’s another wingnut.

    .

    Kenneth says:

    See what I mean! The Progressive Far-Left Liberals on this site talk lock-step from the same garbage-can, hate speech playbook by calling my comments weak bullshit. Typical non open mind comment from you.

    I’m open minded. I’m still waiting for you top ost something that isn’t weak bullshit…

    .

    Kenneth says:

    I don’t agree with what Mark Levin said about Glenn Beck but I agree with some of his conservative points of view.

    “I don’t agree with the part where the right-wing is cannibalizing itself, but I agree with the other right-wing stuff in general sort of.”

    Like we said, weak bullshit.


  92. freakinbored says:

    I’m not a fan of any of those naybobs but at least Beck isn’t the Republican equivalent of Pravda. If they were truly conservatives and only conservatives the Republican Party would be fair game but did you hear them scream when George W was doing what Obama is simply continuing? I didn’t. I don’t think Beck uses Republican National Committee talking points on his show, either, like the talking naybobs do. Levin, Limbaugh and Hannity are are to the Republican Party what Pravda is to the Soviet Communist Party. They are totally intertwined with the Republican Party and are its propaganda arm.



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