Rove Says ‘Obama Doesn’t Need More TV Time,’ But He Argued Bush ‘Needed To Be Out Speaking Every Day’
Rove Says ‘Obama Doesn’t Need More TV Time,’ But He Argued Bush ‘Needed To Be Out Speaking Every Day’
In his WSJ op-ed today, which the paper headlined “The President Risks Getting Stale: Continuous TV appearances can’t rescue a bad argument,” former Bush adviser Karl Rove criticized President Obama’s interviews on five Sunday morning talk shows this past weekend. “Mr. Obama doesn’t need more TV time,” wrote Rove. “More talk doesn’t automatically lead to greater public support, but it can erode public confidence in your leadership.”
While the impact of Obama’s “full Ginsburg” is open for debate, it’s surprising to hear Rove criticize the White House for having Obama make so many public appearances. In his new memoir, former Bush speechwriter Matt Latimer writes that “Rove was of the belief that the president needed to be out speaking every day no matter what the subject”:
Other speeches were scheduled for no apparent reason at all. Karl Rove was of the belief that the president needed to be out speaking every day no matter what the subject. Sometimes Bush would be at the podium four separate times in twenty-four hours, talking about the war in Iraq, the Olympics, the economy, or the birth of Thomas Jefferson. And the next day there might be another speech on Iraq, one more on the economy and maybe a salute to Irish Americans. This obviously made it hard to broadcast a coherent message. [Latimer, pp. 181-182]
There has been concern among some that Obama’s media campaign to push health care reform could leave him overexposed. But the recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll says that’s not the case. Fifty-four percent of respondents said they see “the right amount” of the president.
Additionally, Rove asserts that “Americans have taken the measure of Mr. Obama’s health-care plan and, as his falling poll numbers attest, increasingly don’t like it.” But in reality, Pollster’s aggregation of public opinion surveys shows that support for both Obama’s health care plan and his handling of the issue has been increasing as of late.
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In [Rove's] WSJ op-ed today…
But remember, the media is liberal! LIBERAL, I TELLS YA!
September 24th, 2009 at 6:22 pmObama’s hurting them, the’re pulling out the big guns.
September 24th, 2009 at 6:22 pmKarl is like day old fruit of the looms.
Its hypocrisy to say you change them daily
September 24th, 2009 at 6:23 pmCaption: I am the brain, Pinky is behind me.
September 24th, 2009 at 6:28 pmHere’s an idea…Get Turd blossom and Josh Bolton to take the 5-6 pm time slot on cluster-fox to debate on every subject they can think of – forever….. no commercials (faux doesn’t have many left except the watergate fool hawking gold – probably out of his own teeth) just turd and the mustache going at each other tooth and nail..By like the third week, we will have enough evidence on them we can just take them straight to Leavenworth and Poof !! They’re gone…
September 24th, 2009 at 6:29 pmIsn’t Rove what RePugniScums do to little boys rear ends?
September 24th, 2009 at 6:29 pmWell, if there is anyone who should keep his mouth shut, and should not be given any air time, that’s Rove. Or even access to printed media, for that matter.
September 24th, 2009 at 6:31 pmOkay, I get it.
September 24th, 2009 at 6:39 pmConservatives are hypocrites.
Stop with the non-news.
Rove : idiot, liar, racist, anti-American, anti-Constitution, hate-monger, violence-monger, dishonesty-monger. A true American loser & buffoon. A sociopathic liar & hater. Let’s discard Rove ( & Limbaugh, his love-buddy) the racist/hater/America-hater to the depths he deserves. He is a lying, dishonest, smearing, fact-ignorant creep. How Rove (& Limbaugh, his buddy) can even pretend to be pro-American to his blind sheep is beyond me. He hates America, Hates the Constitution, hates anything America was founded on . He lives & breathes for hatred, racism, lies, deceit, & anti-Christian distortions. Yes, I’ve repeated, but Rove needs to be trounced for his lies, smears, racism & anti-Constitution crap. So does Limbaugh, his big, ugly, fat buddy. Tweedle dum & Tweedle dumber.
September 24th, 2009 at 6:40 pmShorter Turd Blossom: IOKIYAR.
September 24th, 2009 at 6:48 pmKKKarl needs to STFU.
September 24th, 2009 at 6:49 pmThe person who does not need more air time is Karl Rove.
September 24th, 2009 at 6:51 pmIf we had anybody in washington with a back bone and guts this clown would be in jail today.AQll we got are worthless cowarda there all talk and no bite.
September 24th, 2009 at 6:51 pmMore Hypocritical Doublestandard From Bush’s Czar Karl Rove
straight out of the Oppressive fascist’s playbook.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:01 pmWhy is hypocrisy from KKKarl even considered news?
September 24th, 2009 at 7:02 pmLatimer also said that they scheduled mundane speeches and dedications to make political junkets appear to be official presidential trips so the taxpayer would pick up more of the cost of the trips.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:04 pmAnd what’s Rove complaining about? He’s blabbing on Fox every day, helping Rupert and Roger catapult the propaganda.
The new IOKIYAR- the R stands for Rove
Advertising works, that’s why Rove used it so much and that’s why he doesn’t want Obama advertising himself and his product. .
But with that fact lies an important difference between the old and the new.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:11 pmThe old product was crap whereas the new product is pretty darn decent.
The Republican traitors can’t keep controlling the message and pushing propaganda if Obama undermines them and contradicts their lies. Of course they think he’s overexposed. Talking to the people is effective and Obama goes up in the polls every time he does it.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:11 pmSomeone who really doesn’t need more air time are these children singing about Obama. Is Fox putting these children in danger? Watch this clip.
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=2983
September 24th, 2009 at 7:17 pmHey, turdblossom — wishing doesn’t make it so.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:18 pmI saw that video of school kids — the rightwingers are trying to make a propaganda film about it. There is nothing sinister about it, but they are trying very hard to make it appear so.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:22 pmI remember so well going to Republican precinct meetings in Oregon when party members were disgusted with Bush because he seemed at times to boycott the news outlets. A President needs to do just that to keep contact with Americans. Sadly, my party has shifted their point of view so they can gripe about President Obama. It is embarrassing to see our party shift stands just because Democrats are in control. Sadly, they sound like childish whiners. They will continue to take a drumming in the next election if they fail to link into the sad facts our country is facing now, most of which may be a problem due to the Bush era and the Republican Party. It is sad to think most of their whine comes from their Southern-led Senators and Representatives. I had thought Mr. Bush had led our party away from its racist past. I guess the final judgment on this issue is still out since the nasty rhetoric from folks like Beck and Limbaugh persists. I am encourage though, that Rush was called out for his totally inaccurate racist explanation of the school bus incident. Our party needs to hold these racist accountable for the way they attempt to stir the racist discussion.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:23 pmWho let the trolls in?
They’ve pooped all over the thread!
Bad trolls!
Go poop in your own yard!
Or under your netherworld bridge. . . .
September 24th, 2009 at 7:25 pmIf they were singing about Bush it would be x-rated.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:26 pmEvery day since leaving office the bush/cheney/rove clown team shows just how unfit and unprofessional they were to be in the WH….
September 24th, 2009 at 7:29 pmgood evening fear everything,
September 24th, 2009 at 7:29 pmi assume you’re defending that scumbag rove?
how’s that working out for you?
I’m not a repug so hypocracy is not in my DNA
September 24th, 2009 at 7:29 pmfear nada says:
Continuous TV appearances can’t rescue a bad argument
Spot on, Karl!
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And neither can pointless cheerleading…
Gimme an “A”… gimme an “ESS”… gimme and “ESS”…
What’s it spell? What’s it spell? What’s it spell?
(… you…)
September 24th, 2009 at 7:29 pmfear nada says:
Hypocrite much?
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Incoherent much?
September 24th, 2009 at 7:30 pmFearNada needs to pull the thong strap out of his butt.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:31 pmpoor porky pig rove
September 24th, 2009 at 7:34 pmcondemned to the irrelevency known as faux “news” since no credible news organization will listen to his stupid ass. at least now he knows how rasputin felt…
fear nada says:
What if it were Bush they were singing about? Would you have a different tune, so to speak?
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Do you mean, like THIS?
Sheesh… talk about creepy…
September 24th, 2009 at 7:39 pmhey mr. fear,
you never told me,
will you be pulling for mittens, or sarah p, or reverend huck for 2012??
September 24th, 2009 at 7:39 pmthe kinds are only in danger
when they have to pass through mr. fear’s neighborhood.
mr fear,
why do so many righties molest kids?
September 24th, 2009 at 7:41 pmyou tweakin’ pretty good again tonight, mr. fear?
you’re a greasy meth sssssssnake, with a bunch of dismantled vcr’s in your backyard, aren’t you?
September 24th, 2009 at 7:43 pmtom@37,
September 24th, 2009 at 7:46 pmfear everything is “pulling” his crank for a larry craig/ mark sanford 2012 “family values ticket
Rove is an ugly, ugly wart and should be behind bars. I don’t give a damn what he has to say…..he and his repuke pals created the damned mess this country is in.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:47 pmThat was scary stuff RoS.
Of course, I’m pretty used to it where I live.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:50 pmThe holy rollers pop all the time, just like the trolls do here.
mr. fear’s just another booger-waving, incoherent punk troll,
just like ALL the rest.
worthless scum.
if they had an idiot’s worth of sense between them, they’d be doing something serious about cleaning up their own shattered disgraced party instead of shooting their fool mouths off in places like this,
but, just like a burned-out tweaker, they couldn’t make a smart decision to save their own toothless, scabby lives.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:53 pmoops. . .
pop up all the time.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:53 pmNews flash: Mr. Rove is a duplicitous tool.
September 24th, 2009 at 7:59 pmwhaddya got there, tweaky brewster?
that’s weak.
try again.
September 24th, 2009 at 8:00 pmOh, I see now, Mr. Lying Rove (R – Hell). Bush needed to lie several times each day to keep his previous lies well manured and in their place, while President Obama only needs to tell speak up and tell the truth only a couple of times each week, to keep the truth visible. Oh, I see now, Mr. Lying Rove (R – Hell)…
September 24th, 2009 at 8:00 pmfear nada says:
The Republic of Stupidity says:
There’s a nice dose O progressive hypocrisy! Thanks! Bush…Bad…obama….good!
See! Even a moron troll can get it eventually.
Vacuous much?
September 24th, 2009 at 8:02 pmrove is a one-hit-wonder of political operatives,
who actually cheated his way in by attaching himself to the ass of a nepotism charity case.
now he’s a used-up streetcorner ho, who only a man as ugly as rupert murdoch would pay for lip service.
he’ll never manage a successful campaign again in his sad, f’ed up life.
September 24th, 2009 at 8:03 pmbut apparently he has a couple of admirers left,
in the 4-toothed cousin banger demographic,
right mr. nada?
September 24th, 2009 at 8:04 pmfear nada says:
There’s a nice dose O progressive hypocrisy! Thanks! Bush…Bad…obama….good!
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Let me get this straight…
YOU were being critical of the individual who taught those children the “Obama” song… but I point out something parallel, and actually substantially more extreme (… Bush=God???? Oh… PUKE…) and I’M the hypocrite?
You seem to be more than just a little confused about the meaning of the word, Li’l Feller…
September 24th, 2009 at 8:07 pmtombaker says:
why do so many righties molest kids?
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FINALLY… a question “fear everything” is qualified to answer…
September 24th, 2009 at 8:09 pmIt’s starting to look to me like the amount of time being spent on-air by people who are complaining about the amount of time Obama spends on air, is exceeding the amount of time Obama has spent on air.
September 24th, 2009 at 8:11 pmSadly, there may be a sublime, or clever historical reason why American is not way ahead, of where it is now!?
But, is this [ALWAYS] a [VALID] or [POSEABLE] question? Also, isn’t it the case that sanity could never, ever become involved in the completed logic of asking it, and then venturing into its pragmatic answer?
(No)
Although, likely wellsprings for better policies in our res publica (affairs), seem to have always varied, they are, still only:
a) domestic policies, and/or
September 24th, 2009 at 8:13 pmb) foreign policy!
tombaker says:
why do so many righties molest kids?
Because they are insecure and crave power from a place of feeling powerless. The entire psyche of conservatism is about rules, power and domination which plays into perverse acts such as abusing kids. Conservatism is a form of mental illness, and that’s why they constantly whine about liberalism being one. It’s just more projection from the mentally disturbed wingnuts.
September 24th, 2009 at 8:31 pmfear nada says:
The Republic of Stupidity says:
There’s a nice dose O progressive hypocrisy! Thanks! Bush…Bad…obama….good!
Predictable projection from another sockpuppet loser troll.
Next…
September 24th, 2009 at 8:32 pmSince the day Obama announced he was running for president, I doubt there has been a day that his mug has not been on TV. Obama is a like a cult figure. Talk about overexposure. It takes work to avoid him.
September 24th, 2009 at 8:54 pmsure kws
he should spend half his term hackin brush,
like the retard did,
right?
-you should think before you type, shitwhistle.
September 24th, 2009 at 8:56 pmTurn off the TV or change the channel, KWS. That’s what I started doing during the Dumbya years. Or is that too much work for you?
kwsventures says:
September 24th, 2009 at 9:03 pmSince the day Obama announced he was running for president, I doubt there has been a day that his mug has not been on TV. Obama is a like a cult figure. Talk about overexposure. It takes work to avoid him.
kwsventures says:
“Since the day Obama announced he was running for president, I doubt there has been a day that his mug has not been on TV. ”
tough tittie, troll. he’s the president of the united states. would rather have him keeping us informed that to watch some stupid ass “clear brush”
September 24th, 2009 at 9:09 pmkwsventures says:
Since the day Obama announced he was running for president, I doubt there has been a day that his mug has not been on TV.
Hey, it’s not like he’s giving speeches to pre-screened military groups twice a week even though there’s nothing going on in the news to give a speech about. Unlike certain ex-Presidents we could mention…
September 24th, 2009 at 9:25 pmThere will be constant unrelenting criticism of Obama from the southern white wing repiggies.
Those men are all chubby with flabby middles and he-boobies, not to mention their miniscule genitalia.
They are all furious that Obama is sleek, trim and athletic.
Have you folks noticed how physically unattractive and nasty these white-wing repiggies look?
September 24th, 2009 at 9:27 pmGene Lyons:
September 24th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
mr fear,
you just don’t have any idea how irrelevant your little slice of the population is, and will be, from now on.
that’s why that fork’s sticking out of you,
you’re done.
i’m sorry.
September 24th, 2009 at 9:40 pmIt is the prerogative of the POTUS to use the “bully pulpit” to whatever degree and for whatever purpose he sees fit. Period.
I didn’t like Bush’s frequent speeches, so I didn’t watch them unless it was for something important. But I recognized his right to make them. And I didn’t postulate that it was the quantity of speeches he made that would make him more or less popular. Rather, it was the (extremely poor) quality of his decisions that resulted in his unprecedented unpopularity. What you do matters more than what you say, and what you say matters more than how much time you spend saying it.
September 24th, 2009 at 9:42 pm.
CORRECTION:
Karl Rove does NOT need anymore T.V. time.
KKKarl is just jealous. ONLY FOXPRAVDA will have him.
:(
/snark(the frowny face, that is)
.
September 24th, 2009 at 10:19 pmKarl Rove is a KKKonservanazi republiKlan hypocrite. I expect nonsense like that from his sorry a$$. Let him tell Faux News more bu$hit.
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag carrying a cross.” Sinclair Lewis
September 24th, 2009 at 10:28 pmfear nada says:
You’re no more a Vietnam vet than I am. Why lie?
He didn’t say he was. Address the content of the post, or admit defeat.
September 24th, 2009 at 11:25 pmfear nada says:
This comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Continuous TV appearances can’t rescue a bad argument
Spot on, Karl!
Trnslation:
fear nada says:
Get that spear-chucking ni99er off my TV!!! Don’t you know that only white Republican Presidents are supposed to get air-time?
Fear of a black President fearful coward?
September 24th, 2009 at 11:29 pmTranslation (72)
September 24th, 2009 at 11:30 pmWell Bush sure did need the practice…
September 24th, 2009 at 11:32 pmWhy does Karl Rove get any face time or coverage in the media. His boss was the worst President ever. Rove himself had to go before Patrick Fitzgerald 5 times because the first 4 times he was caught in lies. He is more smelly than pond water on a hot July day.
September 25th, 2009 at 12:34 amIm surprised that a bush adviser would want that bumbling idiot to speak in public at all. It was embarrissing watching bush speak. You know damn well the rest of the world would see bush speak and wonder, how the fck could so many Americans elect such a fool. Im proud to say that I never voted for him.
September 25th, 2009 at 12:35 am“Rove Says ‘Obama Doesn’t Need More TV Time,’ But He Argued Bush ‘Needed To Be Out Speaking Every Day’”
Blah, blah, blah.. Tubby McTreason Rove doesn’t need more TV time. His rump belongs in the pokey. Good luck, Tubby, trying to get Boosh the puppet out to speak everyday. He’s too busy picking up Barney’s poop.
September 25th, 2009 at 12:36 amRove will still be over-exposed when he’s six feet under.
September 25th, 2009 at 12:41 amWould you expect anythng else from a HYPOCRITTER?????????????
September 25th, 2009 at 12:43 amfear nada says:
You’re no more a Vietnam vet than I am. Why lie?
You’re no more of an American the Bin Laden is, why lie?
September 25th, 2009 at 1:01 amfear nada says:
Why do you fear a black President?
September 25th, 2009 at 1:16 amfear nada says:
Spot on, Karl!
Which is exactly why Rove should get off the airwaves. Funny how he doesn’t seem to realize he’s in reality talking about himself.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:04 amGEORGE W. BUSH SHOULD NOT BE GIVING SPEECHES.
BUSH MURDERED MARGIE SCHOEDINGER—SHE WAS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN.
BUSH SHOULD BE IN PRISON OR UNDERGO EXECUTION FOR MURDERING SCHOEDINGER.
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SCANDALS! SCANDALS! SCANDALS!
DANGER! DANGER! DANGER!
GEORGE W. BUSH IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CRIMINAL STALKER AND SERIAL KILLER!
George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her.
“In her suit, Margie Schoedinger states that George W. Bush committed sexual crimes against her, organized harassment and moral pressure on her, her family members and close relatives and friends. As Schoedinger said, she was strongly recommended to keep her mouth shut. . . . Furthermore, she alleges that George Bush ordered to show pressure on her to the point [that] she commits suicide” (go to Google, type “blog of drizzten Margie Schoedinger,” and hit “Enter”).
“George [Bush is personally complicit] in the death (murder to be precise) of my friend Margie Schoedinger in September of 2003. Determining the exact whereabouts and contacts of . . . George Bush on September 21 thru 22, 2003, should be entirely lacking in difficulty” (Leola McConnell, Nevada Progressive Democratic Candidate for U.S. Senate in 2010).
McConnell is correct: Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death.
Bush’s method of murdering Schoedinger cannot exist in a vacuum: he must have murdered other people in the same way.
Bush also used this sort of modus operandi to intimidate or terrorize people: it is physically impossible for it to have been otherwise insofar as he could implement such a modus operandi at all. Thus, sometimes Bush continuously criminally stalked people to terrify them by inflicting organized harassment against them, their family members, close relatives, and friends—and furthermore—possibly their employers and/or contacts otherwise. Some of Bush’s victims were so scared and realized that the worst thing that could happen to them was that they would ultimately be murdered by him—for example—like Schoedinger. So it might have behooved any number of them to step down to whatever arbitrary and capricious demands of Bush or else he might have ordered to show pressure on them to the point that they commit suicide.
(There are thousands of copies of the information above on the Internet. Please feel free to go to any major search engine, type “GEORGE W. BUSH IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CRIMINAL STALKER AND SERIAL KILLER” or “George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked Margie Schoedinger to the point that she could not get away from it, and she committed suicide in desperation to escape: he murdered her” or “George W. Bush applying pressure (continuously criminally stalking Margie Schoedinger) purposefully to force Schoedinger to commit suicide does in fact constitute murder where it culminated in her death” or “George W. Bush continuously criminally stalked people to terrify them by inflicting organized harassment against them, their family members, close relatives, and friends—and furthermore—possibly their employers and/or contacts otherwise,” hit “Enter,” and readily find hundreds of copies.)
(Please feel free to go to Google, type “GEORGE W. BUSH IS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN U.S. HISTORY blog of Andrew Wang,” and hit “Enter.”)
September 25th, 2009 at 3:18 am_____________________
Andrew Wang
(a.k.a. “THE DISSEMINATING MACHINE”)
B.S., Summa Cum Laude, 1996
Messiah College, Grantham, PA
Lower Merion High School, Ardmore, PA, 1993
Note to Barack Obama:
September 25th, 2009 at 4:54 am
Personally, I’ve had more than enough conservative/conservatism advice/influence.
Prez. should prob. do the opposite of conserva-advice.
September 25th, 2009 at 7:35 amKarl Rove… just another two headed republican. One head says one thing while the other head says the opposite.
September 25th, 2009 at 8:03 amThe corporate media needs to shut Obama down. Don’t they realize they are paid to further fascist lies and not the revelations that they are lies?
September 25th, 2009 at 8:18 amYes, Karl, and we all remember Bush giving speeches almost weekly for 5 years continuously trying to sell the Iraq war to the American people.
September 25th, 2009 at 8:35 amWhat is Karl the crook doing with an op-ed in the WSJ.He continues to get air and press time.Who is holding the keys to the media castle? The ownership wonders why their readership is shrinking.What does a non elected official have to offer? Has he told us about his game of tricks? Go away silently in the night Karl.
September 25th, 2009 at 9:02 amKarl Rove is preaching to his right wing choir which can’t get enough of Obama criticism, ad nauseum. He’s completely predictable. Everyone knows what he’s going to say on any topic. He is not yet nearing Glennbeckian manic proportions, but he fits right in with the FOX PROPAGANDA dept.
September 25th, 2009 at 12:34 pmIt is so satisfying when a school yard bully starts crying about being stood up to. In a way it is the perfectly predictable that a bully would react this way. At this point the Republicans will say anything to avoid slipping into the ditch of history, they are scared big time and their irrational hypocrisy proves it.
September 25th, 2009 at 3:13 pmRodeskawler says:
The corporate media needs to shut Obama down. Don’t they realize they are paid to further fascist lies and not the revelations that they are lies?
What lies? Could you specify some of them for us? Or was that all you got?
September 27th, 2009 at 3:48 amI think Mr. Rove must be mistaking Obama for himself.
September 28th, 2009 at 3:52 pm