Kyl Asserts ‘I Don’t Need Maternity Care’ In My Health Policy; Stabenow Shoots Back ‘Your Mom Probably Did’
Kyl Asserts ‘I Don’t Need Maternity Care’ In My Health Policy; Stabenow Shoots Back ‘Your Mom Probably Did’
Today, the Senate Finance Committee debated Sen. Jon Kyl’s (R-AZ) amendment to prohibit the federal government from “defining the health care benefits offered through private insurance.” Kyl tried to make his case by citing the unnecessary expense of maternity care. He was quickly smacked down by Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-MI):
KYL: I don’t need maternity care, and so requiring that to be in my insurance policy is something that I don’t need and will make the policy more expensive.
STABENOW: If I could just interject once with my colleague — I think your mom probably did. (LAUGHTER)
KYL: Over 60 years ago my mom did. (LAUGHTER) You notice I wasn’t too specific with regard to that.
Watch it:
Of course Kyl doesn’t need maternity care; he will never be a mother. As Igor Volsky notes at the Wonk Room, Kyl’s amendment “would prohibit the government from defining which benefits should be included in a standard benefit package and would permit health insurance companies to design policies that exclude higher-cost beneficiaries.”
Maternity care, in fact, is a perfect example of why Kyl’s amendment is so bad. Most individual health insurance markets don’t cover maternity care. In fact, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, only 14 states have a requirement for such coverage, and the number of plans without maternity coverage continues to rise dramatically. Anthem Blue Cross — which has been actively fighting health care reform — considers pregnancy optional and therefore not necessary to insure:
“The point of insurance is to insure against catastrophic care costs. That’s what you’re trying to aggregate and pool for such things as heart attacks and cancer,” said an Anthem Blue Cross spokesman. “Having a child is a matter of choice. Dealing with an adult onset illness, such as diabetes, heart disease breast or prostate cancer, is not a matter of choice.”
“A well defined minimum benefits package would compel health insurers to provide basic services to all Americans,” adds Volsky. “The Kyl amendment, which ultimately failed, would have allowed the industry to continue profiting from discriminatory practices.”
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Right there’s all I needed to know. Kyl = Fail
September 25th, 2009 at 1:29 pmI thought the Conservatives loved the fetus but once one was born, one was on your own.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:29 pmSo now you tell me that the Repbulican Conservatives don’t even care about the fetus either?
What AM I to think?
Right on, Sen. Stabenow!
September 25th, 2009 at 1:30 pmWhat Kyle meant was that the kind of sex Republican Senators have doesn’t result in pregancy. See Larry Craig for more details.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:31 pmThis shows the GOP’s true colors. If something doesn’t benefit them personally, then they’re against it.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:32 pmKyl didn’t have a mother — he was hatched under a rock.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:32 pmWomen always come out short when it comes to insurance. It’s the repugniscum way — keep them down and subservient to the men. No birth control coverage, but pay for Viagra instead.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:33 pmNo pregnancy coverage (the stork brings babies).
Children are always neglected as well — they don’t vote, have nothing to offer them today — so it is the survival of the fittest for them. If they make it to adulthood, repugs will find some use for them.
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SMACK DOWN!
:)
September 25th, 2009 at 1:34 pmAbstinence-Only education taken to its extreme.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:35 pmAww… this is just Kyl’s way of acknowledging inflatable women, and sheep, can’t get preggers…
Ah yes… Kyl’s Arizona… where men are men, and sheep are scared… and there’s no such thing as Virgin Wool…*
*the late, great U Utah Phillips
September 25th, 2009 at 1:36 pmI pretty sure Kyl is right I think snakes hatch their young
September 25th, 2009 at 1:37 pmIsn’t it the very definition of insurance that you pay for something that you in all likelihood never need?
Do we get fire insurance for our house only because we know the house is going to burn down? Don’t we WANT to not use it?
Woman will never need prostate care, so should that be excluded too?
The real issue here is that the Republicans want to kill this, regardless of whether the final plan makes perfect sense or not. And delaying it will help to kill it. Kyl is just earning his insurance co (bribes) fees.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:38 pmI think there should be more references to Republican Senators’ mothers read into the official transcript…
September 25th, 2009 at 1:38 pm***
#13,
if only they had fathers.
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September 25th, 2009 at 1:40 pmKyl got his ars handed back to him two days in row…love it!
September 25th, 2009 at 1:40 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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#16,
a well crafted response
of dubious measure.
:|
September 25th, 2009 at 1:43 pmPS is offended by sarcasm? Pobrecita, such thin skin for such a superior POS.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:43 pmI love Debbie!
Sure glad I voted for her, and she does make Michigan proud!!!
September 25th, 2009 at 1:44 pmYeah,w e sure don’t need sarcasm in the halls of Congress, right PS?
September 25th, 2009 at 1:46 pmThey have lost control. The blacks and women have become uppity.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:47 pmKyl doesn’t need maternity coverage NOW – he’s already a mother.
And, PS, THAT was a sarcastic remark. What Stabenow said is to the point and highly relevant to the issue of what and whom gets covered in future health insurance, private or public.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:48 pmMayhaps that bulge is a cranium pressing internally on the abdominal wall and will prolly require some sort of maternalistic medical support.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:48 pmEven if Stabenow’s comment was sarcastic, I’ll take her sarcasm over Kyl’s hypocrisy any day.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:49 pm“Having a child is a matter of choice“??? Oh, I bet all the teabaggers and Beckinazis just loved that line — now that they’re all supporting a pro-choice advocacy group…
September 25th, 2009 at 1:50 pmGood two days in a roll being smack down, you got to like that.
LOL at you Politically Superior if ignorants were money you have enough to maybe be able to get a change to be able to have the right to get your marching orders direct from another slightly more ignorant person.
cause you will never have enough money to be part of your beloved bosses. but they do like there sheep well behaved. watch out that noise maybe a zipper as rushboilbutt may need some attention.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:50 pmO/T
Mass. judge rejects bid to delay Kennedy successor
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September 25th, 2009 at 1:51 pmSarcasm should be treated with a dismissal ?
Hey Political Posterior
What do you suggest we do with Republicans , who are inevitably all full of crap and basically stupid ?
Execute them ?
September 25th, 2009 at 1:52 pmPolitically STUPID
What a STUPID post. If your girlfriend werent made of rubber and she loved you she would slap the stupid out of you and stop you from embarassing yourself constantly. Do yourself a favor and STFU
September 25th, 2009 at 1:52 pmThat’s hillarious! Who would do that, I mean who would be the person with that authority? Maybe a member of the minority party?
September 25th, 2009 at 1:54 pmThere are TVs in the mall near me that loop inane tripe. Can’t we rent one and loop a tape of ridiculous Republican arguments about health care, with an explanation of why they are so odious. This could be a clip for such a project.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:57 pmLay off guys, it’s just a kid…
September 25th, 2009 at 1:57 pmAnthem Blue Cross: “Having a child is a matter of choice. Dealing with an adult onset illness, such as diabetes, heart disease breast or prostate cancer, is not a matter of choice.”
So for instance if a woman is discovered to be carrying conjoined twins she doesn’t deserve any medical attention beyond hot water and clean towels because she chose to get pregnant?
September 25th, 2009 at 1:57 pmThey care about the unborn but not about helping get them be born.
Just stay in there so I can appoint myself your counsel.
Got it.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:58 pmPolitically “superior” doesn’t like uppity women.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:58 pmNone of us we need insurance at all if we just got all the medical care we needed when we needed it (like every other major Democracy in the world).
September 25th, 2009 at 1:59 pmhey zooey! are you the most popular gal in school yet? Hangin’ out with the Heathers? :D
September 25th, 2009 at 2:00 pmEngaging in unprotected sex would be the supposed “choice” leading to childbirth. Does that mean any condition incurred through sexual activity would not be covered?
September 25th, 2009 at 2:01 pmKyl’s the wrong gender to be a mother.
But he’s got “mutherfocker” written all over him…
September 25th, 2009 at 2:02 pmWhy do Republicans hate women?
September 25th, 2009 at 2:04 pmdbadass says:
Lay off guys, it’s just a kid…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
How do you know? It could be a feebleminded sixty year old biker chick
September 25th, 2009 at 2:06 pmMarie @ 7
“…If they make it to adulthood, repugs will find some use for them.”
They get to fight in the next war for corporate profit…”
September 25th, 2009 at 2:06 pmI know becuase Politically Superior told me it was so
September 25th, 2009 at 2:07 pmWhat a sarcastic remark. She should be fired.
Or at least Re-Elected.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:11 pmkyle wants maternity to be excluded but women should pay for his inevitable prostate explosion?
September 25th, 2009 at 2:12 pmI was the last of four kids when I was born but my mother was 39 and back in those old timey times if you wanted a sonogram you had to use a dolphin hooked-up to a Gram-O-Phone and a slide projector. ( i.e. there were no sonograms back then).
But I was born at home, with a nurse and midwife attending, and a doctor showed-up at 5 am to verify I wasn’t Kenyan and all that.
No ambulance fees, no hospital fees, no drug fees, no private nurse fees, no midwife fees, no doctor outcall fees.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:12 pmSteven Hawking and I were covered by the exact same health care system.
Wow! Another fine example of a republican showing just how out of touch, ignorant and idiotic he/she really is.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:18 pmqvhd,
bringin’ the classy.
thanks, pal, for reaffirming “where it’s at” with today’s righties.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:19 pmStupid misogynistic moron.
Hey, Kyl – if we don’t get maternity care, YOU MEN DON’T GET VIAGRA!!!
Fleeping idiot.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:20 pmPolitically Superior says:
What a sarcastic remark. She should be fired.
Now, that, PS, is a wonderful display of sarcasm. Thank you for demonstrating it. I can just feel it dripping through the screen.
I’m glad you agree with us that she’s doing a fine job. I know your statement says she should be fired, but with all that snarky sarcasm coming from your statement, I can tell that you approve of her remark.
Well said, PS!
September 25th, 2009 at 2:21 pmQuick! Vote him down! says:
September 25th, 2009 at 2:23 pm“““““““““““““““““““““““`
I’m sorry you must have mistaken Napolitano for former governor Sarah Palin. See Napolitano left as governor of Arizona at the request of the President of the United States. She went on to continue to work in government for our country while Sarah Palin, up and quit, cut and ran just to serve herself.
Kyl and his ilk are now pro choice. Go figure.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:23 pmCause they forced them out of the womb.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:26 pmKyl’s opinion descriminates against women that have the ability to reproduce. I’ve had this argument with my own insurance carrier in the past, and they eventually conceded. Of course my premiums went up.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:27 pmThey know that this kind of exemption is unfair.
Quick! Vote him down!
September 25th, 2009 at 2:29 pm—So it is safe to assume you do use that name just as cover to post dumb crap.
KYL: “I don’t need maternity care, and so requiring that to be in my insurance policy is something that I don’t need and will make the policy more expensive. I just want my prostate massaged…again…with both hands…at the same time.”
September 25th, 2009 at 2:33 pmNapolitano left and left the state with some Jeeeesus Freak who listens to the voices in her head instead of logic. We lost big time on that exchange.
Sorry to hear about your homophobic problem Quick one, sucks to be you.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:36 pmI have to love the distinction that the insurers make.
Having a baby is a matter of choice?
Sure, but so is having that extra Coke and a Big Mac, but yet insurers are not writing out heart disease for fat guys.
Under that logic, they could bar treatment for lung cancer (smoking) and even some breast cancer (since weight among other issues impacts the occurrence of breast cancer).
Most of what people do during a day impacts their health. But yet health insurers, and Sen. Kyl, have decided to focus on only one of those things.
And then the GOP wonders why there is a gender gap.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:37 pmYet another shining example of ‘pro-life’ being empty rhetoric.
Since illnesses such as heart disease, diabetes, and a whole slew of others can be prevented with a healthy diet and exercise, watch for insurance companies to deny coverage based on poor health choices.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:43 pmBoth birth control and abortions are considered to be elective because they are not medical necessities (despite the reality that both can, in fact, be medically necessary under the right conditions), yet pregnancy is considered to be a choice. No mention of how it is a choice for the child, since it is their health that is most frequently the concern when maternity care is considered.
That doesn’t wash. Of course, a woman can be denied coverage for having had a C-section, or for having been the victim of domestic violence.
A man, on the other hand, can get Viagra. No explanation on how getting wood is a medical necessity.
September 25th, 2009 at 2:43 pmAnd this is why I am in favor of a complete nationalization of health care.
September 25th, 2009 at 3:01 pmQuick! Vote him down! says:
QUICK kiss my ass you ignorant punkass troll
September 25th, 2009 at 3:13 pm*Zinger*
September 25th, 2009 at 3:21 pmDo these mentally arthritic “pro-lifers” realize that if maternity care isn’t covered and poor people have to pay out of their own pockets to give birth to babies, that abortions will increase? Abortions are less expensive, and if they’re going to have to pay for pregnancy anyway…
Or, they’ll just go to an emergency room when they go into labor and let the chips fall where they may. And when they go bankrupt because they can’t pay the bill for an emergency C-section, neonatal unit care, or other complications resulting from giving birth after having virtually no prenatal care (not covered by insurance, you know), it won’t bother the taxpayers to pick up the tab not only for the hospital expenses, but for the cost of raising this child, will it?
Some of these people have vision so limited I’m surprised they can see as far as as twelve inches in front of their face.
September 25th, 2009 at 3:26 pmShayne says:
Anthem Blue Cross — which has been actively fighting health care reform — considers pregnancy optional and therefore not necessary to insure:
“The point of insurance is to insure against catastrophic care costs. That’s what you’re trying to aggregate and pool for such things as heart attacks and cancer,” said an Anthem Blue Cross spokesman. “Having a child is a matter of choice. Dealing with an adult onset illness, such as diabetes, heart disease breast or prostate cancer, is not a matter of choice.”
Kyl and his ilk are now pro choice. Go figure.
Using Viagra to get off is also optional…so it shouldn’t be insured under Anthem’s standards…In fact, how close are we to the insurance companies saying that ALL diseases are optional and therefore should not be insured…But unfortunately that is all moot, because for all the noble talk about how diseases are not a choice, the insurance companies seem to engage in rescission, a practice that makes it a choice for them to help with the disease or not. Pro-choice indeed…
September 25th, 2009 at 3:36 pmHoly sh!t! We got f’n pwned! We say stupid sh!t and get owned. It’s just our nature, bear with us.
September 25th, 2009 at 3:45 pmPolitically Superior says:
What a sarcastic remark. She should be fired.
Once we retake the big majority a bill should be passed enabling future republican presidents to fire Representatives, Senators & Judges they deem too librul.
September 25th, 2009 at 3:52 pmI look forward to Kyl’s stated position on sickle-cell anemia…
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Quick! Vote him down! says:
OK.
September 25th, 2009 at 3:54 pmOf course she (Janet Napolitano) packed her shaving kit and abandoned the state in the middle of a crisis that she created.
Uh, I live in AZ and the cause of the problem is the Republican-packed State Congress not being able to balance the budget. Shoot, our new Republican Governor can’t get the State Congress to balance the budget. JN always got it balanced without taking money out of education.
September 25th, 2009 at 4:01 pmKyl a secret hermaphrodite? XD
September 25th, 2009 at 4:08 pmAnthem the anti-spermazoa pro life health insurance company!
September 25th, 2009 at 4:20 pmSo much for Rethuglican “family values”. I think when we get single payer or public option, all Rethuglicans should be denied benefits for contraception AND pregnancy & birth claims…that way, they will slowly be eliminated and so will the selfishness that they so proudly display.
September 25th, 2009 at 4:32 pmLife style is a choice so how long will it be before insurance will no longer cover smoking related disease? Occupation is a choice so does that mean that people with jobs that work with asbestos or black lung should not be covered as well. Where do Kyl and others draw the line because they are on one slippery slope.
September 25th, 2009 at 4:35 pmIf Kyle is supported be the evangelical conservatives then logically he is full of it. The Christian Right should stand for sex only for the purpose of having children, and to follow the divine decree to go forth and multiply. In other words the purpose of marriage(between a man and woman – gays don’t count) is to have children. Not a choice – a heavenly mandate. So if it costs on average around $10,000.00 to pay for maternity care, how would any one ever have children accept the wealthy. He is advocating that the ins. industry tell us who can and who can’t have children because they won’t pay for it.
September 25th, 2009 at 6:17 pmAs an Arizona resident and native I always vote for Jon Kyl. McCain is another story. I won’t vote for him next year.
September 25th, 2009 at 8:00 pmYes, sarcasm is terrible, but it is alright for Dickhead Cheney to use the F-word to Senator Leahy in the Senate. You, PS, are even more stupid and hypocrtical than I thought.
Politically Inferior says:
September 25th, 2009 at 8:08 pmWhat a sarcastic remark. She should be fired
cancervative guy,
You certainly seem to crave attention, but unfortunately most posters here have no interest in how you plan to vote. Why don’t you go seek friends on Red State?
conservative guy says:
September 25th, 2009 at 8:14 pmAs an Arizona resident and native I always vote for Jon Kyl
John Kyl needs to be left lying by the highway bleeding as the world passes by. The gDOp has no imagination.
September 25th, 2009 at 8:47 pmconservative guy says:
As an Arizona resident and native I always vote for Jon Kyl. McCain is another story. I won’t vote for him next year.
Cool, thanks. Good to know you’ll be voting for a Democrat for his seat.
September 25th, 2009 at 9:23 pmConservaTROLL
As a decent human being I think you should just go kill yourself. Your stupidity is a burden on all mankind. Just go do the right thing
September 25th, 2009 at 9:45 pmKyl Asserts ‘I Don’t Need Maternity Care’ In My Health Policy; Stabenow Shoots Back ‘Your Mom Probably Did’
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September 25th, 2009 at 9:58 pmOh, come on, Kyl. Grow a pair of balls and tell your Mom that she should have paid out of pocket to give birth to you.
September 26th, 2009 at 12:20 pmNo, his parents should have practiced birth control instead.
September 27th, 2009 at 1:16 amNews flash: Kyl advocates aborting himself
September 27th, 2009 at 12:59 pm