Bachmann dodges question about murdered Census worker.
Bachmann dodges question about murdered Census worker.
Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) was in St. Louis, MO today for the right-wing How to Take Back America Conference, which features panels such as “How to stop feminist and gay attacks on the military” and “How to recognize living under Nazis & Communists.” The Washington Independent’s Dave Weigel attended the conference and attempted to catch up with Bachmann to ask her about the murdered Census worker in Kentucky, but she evaded his question:
After the speech, Bachmann had only a few minutes to sign autographs and collect a stack of CDs and books from fans who’d followed her into the lobby. I caught up to her as she headed outside and asked if she had any response to the murder of a Kentucky census worker, having noticed that the Census, a constant target for Bachmann, did not figure into her speech. Bachmann recoiled a little at the question and turned to enter her limo.
“Thank you so much!” she said.
Over the summer, Bachmann waged a high-profile, wildly-dishonest campaign against the Census, going so far as to claim that the data collected had been used to round up and intern Japanese-Americans in the 1940s.
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Whambulance? You mean, with George Michael and Andrew Ridgley driving?
I think you’re looking for the waaahmbulance, PP, and frankly, there was no reason for Bachmann to answer the question. The reaction spoke volumes.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:17 pmBlood is on their hands. They know it. They encourage it. The modern GOP is small, regional cult filled with uninformed and gullible thugs. They offer nothing of substance. They want the death of our America and it taken back to the 1950’s – where they better understood the rules of the day (i.e. no black people in the white house).
September 26th, 2009 at 5:19 pmOMG – does anyone expect her to take any responsibility for her big mouth???? She doesn’t have a clue on purpose!
September 26th, 2009 at 5:20 pmPurple State says:
The reaction spoke volumes.
“Thank you so much!”
Man, I hate it when they pretend you said something other than what you said. If you’re going to duck the question, keep your yap shut. If you’re going to respond to it, take the time to give a thoughtful and on-topic response. Frankly, she should have bene prepared for the question and looking for an opportunity to respond to it ASAP. If I were her advisor, I’d have had her memorize a canned response about praying for the victim’s family, withholding judgement until the police completed their investigation and so forth. But that’s just plain incompetent there.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:21 pm‘Shelley’ didn’t answer the question because she didn’t know what Beck or Limbaugh would want her to say. She needs time to get her marching orders from GOP leadership.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:23 pmWhat exactly is that supposed to mean, Pee Pee?
That our concern for the murdered federal worker is somehow childish or ill-considered?
That Rep. Bachmann’s failure to acknowledge any connection between her rather hysterical anti-Census rhetoric reflects well on her?
As usual, whatever point you hoped to make seems buried beneath mounds of emotional baggage and poor language skills.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:25 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
conservative guy says:
#4 the 50’s were a great time.
That was then, this is now.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:27 pmIt’s not jumping to conclusions to say that she has villified the census and encouraged violence.
It is jumping to conclusions to say that you have a brain to work with.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:33 pmPolitically Superior says:
Umm they are still investigating the murder. Stop jumping to conclusions you retarded libs.
You just called it a murder yourself. Geez, the disconnect you folks have is inbred. Anyway, we’ll stop jumping to conclusions if you start jumping out of buildings – you first.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:33 pmThis is a bit off topic, but this is an absolute must read article. “Hannity refuses to condone the bombing of children.”
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=3001
September 26th, 2009 at 5:33 pmfor someone who says they are superior in any way, you sure disappoint on the intelligence meter.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:34 pmIf the murder was because the person was a census worker, and if the person that committed the murder admits to being influenced by Bachmann or Beck, will the fascist right call for them to be imprisoned?
September 26th, 2009 at 5:34 pmYes, they are still investigating, PS. Our bad for jumping to conclusions, but TP is just reporting Ms. Bachmann’s reaction.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:35 pmIf you have your way we will be back in caves.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:35 pmPolitical Posterior, that seems a reasonable point to make (without the ‘retarded libs’ crap, of course). Why couldn’t Rep. Bachmann have simply said that in response to the question, instead of pretending the question hadn’t been asked?
Is it because Rep. Bachmann doesn’t do “reasonable”?
September 26th, 2009 at 5:35 pmAh yes, the 50’s. The time when tobacco was healthy, seat belts weren’t necessary, segregated schools were in vogue, laws against inter-racial marriages were in place, white people roamed the White House…Yeah, those were the days, my friend.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:37 pmAs a longtime troll watcher, I have to note this development: conservative guy seems to be enamored of the recent parody troll trend, and may be shifting his game.
It really wouldn’t take much of an escalation in absurdity for conservative guy to really sell himself as a parody troll.
Think about, it conservative guy. It could be a good career move.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:39 pmI bet when Bachmann heard the news of the census worker’s death, she did a fist pump with a grin that went ear-to-ear. Not even a prayer to her “god” for their safety to the ever after.
There is no shame for a psychotic when there is no way to hold them in check…or punish them for what they inspire. They simply scream about how they’re protected by the Constitution in this and that, knowing full well that their status is what already protects them from bars and a orange jumpsuit.
The power they hold wouldn’t be so in the realm of our real, so why does it hold in the halls of power when people die by the utterance of unbalanced psychological diatribes? At some point this list of names killed by extension will be too tough to look at and I hope the need for justice will out the need for negotiating with these vile creatures of intolerance and hate.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:39 pmNOW! FIND NANCY PELOSI AND ASK HER IF SHE FEELS VINDICATED! Of course, she’s too much of a class act to respond either. That’s OK Nancy….we’ll say it for you. YES! By the way, if the wingnuts want to take back their country, all they need are people like us which they wont’ get. There aren’t enough wingnut, inbreds to make a difference. Perhaps you should all start having sex, sex, sex, and add to the population. Unfortunately for you morons, those kids wont’ reach voting age fast enough for you to tak back anything in this lifetime! So long SUCKERS!
September 26th, 2009 at 5:40 pmconservative guy says:
… the 50’s were a great time.
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You mean, when labor unions were far stronger, resulting in a vibrant middle and working class?
You mean, before Prop 13 got passed in CA and gutted the educational system for the benefit of greedy older homeowners?
You mean, when the marginal tax rates on the higher brackets were the highest they’ve ever been, helping the country to pay off the debt from WW II?
Geez… if THAT’S what yer saying…
BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!
September 26th, 2009 at 5:40 pmBachmann is worried that she will be charged with inciting violence. It is a legitimate charge, and she should be removed from her position for it.
If the person that was murdered was murdered in any part because of Bachmann’s propaganda, she should also be charged with murder. If we do not punish Bachmann for this, we have no rule of law.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:42 pmralph the wonder llama says:
As usual, whatever point you hoped to make seems buried beneath mounds of emotional baggage and poor language skills.
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You forgot to mention his atrocious personal hygiene, ralphie…
September 26th, 2009 at 5:42 pmWithout jumping to conclusions about what happened to the census worker, besides being murdered, if Bachmann believes that the Census is some kind of plot, then she should be proud to say it anywhere no matter how many census workers get murdered. We should not be quick to condemn her for the murder of the census worker, but we should not be reluctant to point out that if she is wrong about the purpose of the census, a person somewhere has committed a sick crime that may not have occurred if she had skipped her paranoid rant.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:44 pmSo you like lynching minorities.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:44 pmDOyou folks have any idea how tiresome it is to be forced to deal with the lame ass Politically Superior and conservative guy’s of the world? I realize that you see me own them each and everytime the appear but still it is so much of a burden… Why can the lame ass f uckfaces just drift back into the nothingness of their meaningless lives?
September 26th, 2009 at 5:46 pmBachmann has got to be one of the top-five stupidest people alive – anywhere…amazing…What’s even MORE amazing are some of the topics at this ‘conference”… the How to Take Back America Conference, which features panels such as “How to stop feminist and gay attacks on the military” and “How to recognize living under Nazis & Communists.”
WHAT IS THIS ABOUT??? Are people really that stupid?? Have these people gotten to the point if chimpy, darth and their minions of dumbness aren’t running the world these people are going to be crushed by the weight of being ‘free’. ?? My word are these people naive… If we haven’t nuked Iran by Tuesday, then the Obama brown shirts are going to come and pick up your first born?? I am appalled by the sheer idiocy of all this….
September 26th, 2009 at 5:46 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
The wingers liked it better when people like me didn’t get to work on Wall Street. As a member of their favorite minority to hate, I could now buy and sell their family members the way they did mine. See, Obama, and Judge Sotomayor arent’ the only ones who are MOVIN ON UP! That’s right, at $35 dollars an hour, I could purchase their family and sell them into slavery. God, I love this country!
September 26th, 2009 at 5:51 pmPolitically Superior on the fifties:
Men made the living and women raised the children. Raygun made sure that even if mom wanted to stay home and raise her children that she could not.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:52 pmYes, and Raygun tripled the deficit. Which is something that people like Jethro Scarborough never mention when they talk about this HORRIBLE president. Raygun SUCKED!
September 26th, 2009 at 5:54 pmAnd I see YOU left out (as TRoS astutely observed) the facts that the 50s saw a far stronger union movement, more restrictive banking and financial regulations and tax rates on the top brackets that reached 91%.
How does that figure into your “more happiness” equation? Or would you prefer to ignore all that?
September 26th, 2009 at 5:55 pm#4 the 50’s were a great time.
Only if you were a white male. For the rest of us, not so much. You are SO LAST CENTURY!!!
September 26th, 2009 at 5:55 pmPolitically Superior says:
more church
You know who else thinks America should be a fundamentalist theocracy? Al Qaeda.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:56 pmw_cleon_skousen, you let yourself get captured by two teenage waiters?
September 26th, 2009 at 5:56 pmPolitically Superior says:
Everything I know about the 50s I learned from watching reruns of Happy Days.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:57 pmI can’t wait for the next Republican convention when all the kooks come out of the woodwork. Bachmann will be there leading the charge.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:58 pmYou mean that the US attacked a tiny country and was surfing within a few days? Very brave! Perhaps your first mistake was not being smart enough to get into Harvard? This country got attacked by people who planned their attack in Afghanistan and what did we do? We took our punk asses to Iraq. It’s the classic bully who’s really a pussy in disguise. He can’t pick on someone his own size. Instead, he beats up 5th graders!
September 26th, 2009 at 5:58 pmwitnessing w_cleon_skousen today is like what it must have been to see U2 perform in a club in Dublin in 1982.
or at least seeing ian Dury and the Blockheads open for Elvis Costello.
September 26th, 2009 at 5:59 pmThey’re just pissed because they keep getting their asses kicked by us DEMOCRATS! Get used to getting your crazy asses kicked!
September 26th, 2009 at 6:01 pmPoliticallyInferior,
You judge the 50’s to be “better” subjectively. That is to say, you “believe” it was better, but believing it does not make it true.
You said the 50’s had “more morals”. More morals by who’s reckoning? You lack the moral credibility to judge any other decade on a moral basis.
You also judged the 50’s to be better because there was “more church”. Having more church certainly is not a legitimate basis for declaring a decade was better. Perhaps it would be better for Christians, but it certainly was not better for atheists. Again, such a judgement is subjective and has no value.
You continue to show just how inferior you are. It really is amusing to point it out to you only to have you come crawling back for more.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:02 pmThe Republic of Stupidity says:
You mean, when labor unions were far stronger, resulting in a vibrant middle and working class?
You mean, before Prop 13 got passed in CA and gutted the educational system for the benefit of greedy older homeowners?
You mean, when the marginal tax rates on the higher brackets were the highest they’ve ever been, helping the country to pay off the debt from WW II?
Totally stole my response, TRoS.
Don’t forget the high investment in national infrastructure via the establishment of the National Highway system while we’re at it.
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kevsters says:
This is a bit off topic, but this is an absolute must read article. “Hannity refuses to condone the bombing of children.”
Er, bit of a typo there… The title of your link reads “Hannity refuses to condemn the bombing of children.
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Politically Superior says:
I see you left out the fact that the 50’s had less crime, cleaner cities, more morals, less garbage TV, more family, more church, less keeping up with the jones…..more happiness.
Each of the things you cited is the opposite of true. Except for there being fewer TV channels.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:06 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Yeah. Back in the fifties, after some embarrassing events surrounding McCarthy, we kicked extremists to the curb. We were the undisputed industrial and intellectual leader of the World and we knew better than to give fanatical Psychochristians like Crazy Shelly a vote in Congress.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:07 pmBachmann: liar, chickensh*t, hate-monger, violence-inciter, racist, & to top it all off, just an amazingly stupid & ignorant person – the epitome of an airhead. Let’s never forget how she called on her idiot followers to take up arms against the government. The death of this census taker is a direct result of her (& others like Beck’s) hatred, which, as any Repub, she will never take responsibility for. She is the worst role model ever for anyone with compassion & a brain. How disgusting that children have to hear her violent, lying, & murderous comments. Lord help the U.S. if these lying, hateful, racist, screaming, hysterical Repubs/GOP/conservatives/right-wingers ever gain power again. You can then kiss the U.S. goodbye on the international scene, kiss the U.S. goodbye as having any power in the world, & kiss the U.S. goodbye in any global issues whatsoever. If that ever came to be (& let’s pray it won’t — although Beck, Bachmann, DeMint, & many others are hell-bent on destroying the influence of the U.S. globally) the extreme right-wingers, extreme evangelists, the terrorist racists, the tea-bagging dolts will have won. Please, Dems, intelligent Repubs (I know they are out there, remaining silent), independents, & the media– call these idiots on their lies, hatred & racism. And never stop calling them on it. Your country depends on your response to their idiocy.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:08 pmBack in the fifties, sixties, and seventies, we were a far more secular nation. Kennedy got elected by convincing thinking people that he would not let his religious beliefs change his decisions. Morons like Crazy Shelly, on the other hand, assure their idiot followers that every decision will be “Biblical”, regardless of the facts.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:11 pmMs Bachmann:
Are you now or have you ever been a card carrying member of
The John Birch Society?
September 26th, 2009 at 6:12 pmShe’s on her way to Dairy Queen to pick up the ice cream cake she ordered for the occasion and you libs expect to sour the moment? Man you people get on my nerves. It’s like you’re forcing me to post here.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:12 pmI detect a subtle “Grampy McCain” influence on the style of w_cleon_skousen.
Am I alone in that assessment?
September 26th, 2009 at 6:13 pmMaybe they were good for the
September 26th, 2009 at 6:15 pmKlu Klux Klan & the John Birch Society,
but they weren’t very good for most African Americans.
How would wingnuts feel if bachmann was found strung up with the words federal b*tch scrawled accross her chest.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:16 pmReggie, under duress, I might admit my membership in the Thora Birch Society…
September 26th, 2009 at 6:16 pmw_cleon_skousen
I am still waiting for you to either post a link as evidence to support your post regarding the new license plates, or you need to admit you lied.
I am also waiting for you to provide an hypothesis that disproves the theory evolution. If you fail to provide this hypothesis, I expect you to admit you were wrong when you said evolution was a lie.
You seem to be angry with liberals because some kids tortured you while you were in the military? You need counseling for PTSD. Your anger is misdirected and you pose a threat to civilized society.
Frankly, you are insane.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:19 pmThere really is a trend in trolls lately towards more prepubescent behavior. Gone are the days of even faking an attempt at discussion. Now its just flaming bags of dog poo on the front steps while they hide in the bushes and snicker.
Sort of like the rest of the Republican party.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:21 pmIn the 50’s the Republican party was inhabited by reasonable people.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:21 pmralph the wonder llama says:
And I see YOU left out (as TRoS astutely observed) the facts that the 50s saw a far stronger union movement, more restrictive banking and financial regulations and tax rates on the top brackets that reached 91%.
How does that figure into your “more happiness” equation? Or would you prefer to ignore all that?
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***Crickets…***
***More crickets…***
***Still even MORE crickets…***
I think he intends to ignore it, ralphie…
HEY TROLL… YEAH, YOU… BITE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 26th, 2009 at 6:22 pmday by day it’s a slow trickle of bad news for Bachmann, beck and the righties.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:22 pmOur stupid young trolls weren’t around when I was growing up. I grew up in an agnostic family and, to be perfectly honest, I only recall one kid who talked about religion at all. He was shunned because he kept telling people they were going to Hell. I took an elective course called Greek Way that spent a whole semester covering the history, myths, and religion of Ancient Greece. No one ever complained about “Paganism”.
What our incredibly ignorant and stupid trolls fail to realize is that political American Evangelicals virtually didn’t exist before that POS Jerry Fallwell got Raygun’s blessing.
Indeed. Before that embarrassing, divisive, and destructive development “Jesus Freak” was an epithet and fundamentalists largely kept their batscat in their homes and churches where it belongs. The young morons will just have to take our word for it that from the signing of the Declaration of Independence till Raygun started humping Fallwell’s legs it was considered distasteful, by the evangelical’s themselves, to mix church and politics.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:22 pmI’d like to see a 90% tax rate on the poor. That would reduce us down to one class and make America stronger. Same thing would work with taxing escalade health benefits. People will use less health care and go to a different isle. I’d say to people who like to indulge in health care: Wal-Mart’s got great prices on video games.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:23 pmhttp://www.marshallphoto.com/images/collection/detail/1062.jpg
This is not a good sign if you libs are trying to be friends with us trolls. You know we’re important people and have a tough time winning our quickcrete minds. And that makes you angry.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:26 pmTo save the nation….SOMEONE NEEDS TO DRAG BACHMANN BEHIND A TRUCK FOR 5 MILES!
September 26th, 2009 at 6:27 pmPoliticallyInferior said,
September 26th, 2009 at 6:27 pmGot news for ya wingnuts, you are the minority now, and for a long time to come. May your minority be treated as well as you have treated other minorities.
Pete I grew up in Fla in the 50’s. They had 3 restrooms, a mens, womens and colored. Two waterfountains, one marked colored.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:28 pmw_cleon_skousen says:
The point of my story is not that from that day to this I’ve never owned a Volvo or that I won’t share a cab with a Grenadan teenage boy or (especially) I sure as hell won’t ride in a cab that’s a Volvo with a Grenadan teenage boy. No, that’s not the point. I’m so angry with you damn liberals that I forgot what the point was!
That’s the point.
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Damn… you ARE good…
***TRoS tips Mickey Mouse ears in show of respect…***
We are not worthy… we are not worthy… we are not worthy…
September 26th, 2009 at 6:30 pmpete says:
What our incredibly ignorant and stupid trolls fail to realize is that political American Evangelicals virtually didn’t exist before that POS Jerry Fallwell got Raygun’s blessing.
These political evangelicals can trace their roots back to at least the 1950’s when the SCOTUS banned prayer in the public schools. They erroneously believe that decision is what lead to the breakdown of morality. In fact, our moral values changed and ministers and priests lost their hold over society. The loss of power left them angry. They are trying to reclaim that power by using the government to establish a Christian theocracy.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:33 pmNo dispute here, Fred. I’m most definitely not in favor of a return to the fifties. I was merely funning the troll over his belief that the church was in charge in the fifties, or any point in our history. But I am encouraged that the fringe of fundamentalists might be driven back out of politics.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:33 pmPolitically Superior says:
I see you left out the fact that the 50’s had less crime, cleaner cities, more morals, less garbage TV, more family, more church, less keeping up with the jones…..more happiness.
Maybe if Mr. and Mrs. Cleaver weren’t doing so much goddamn humping we wouldn’t have the crime usually associated with exploding population growth. Not every plaid-shirt, bike riding good boy of the time grew up to be an upstanding good Samaritan.
We in the GOP like to project revisionist history onto “a better future.” Well, looking back into history is more fun when you treat it like a motion picture. F uck that though, Virginia will be back in the 50s when Bob McDonnell is elected governor.
Say, if the 50s was so wondrous and the dream description of a childhood, from where did all those hippies come?
September 26th, 2009 at 6:34 pmTold ya, TRoS…
September 26th, 2009 at 6:34 pmOur nation would be so much safer if the domestic terrorists such as Glenn Beck and Michele Bachmann were not in it. Until we can figure out a way to get rid of them, I say we yank their national microphones away from them! They’re using them to brainwash Americans into killing other Americans. No different than al-Qaida!
September 26th, 2009 at 6:39 pmPete I grew up in Fla in the 50’s. They had 3 restrooms, a mens, womens and colored.
Maybe we should bring that back only label the last one wingnuts. They could put in special tiles in the stalls to amplify the toe tapping sound.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:40 pmpete says:
But I am encouraged that the fringe of fundamentalists might be driven back out of politics.
They won’t be driven out. Fundamentalists have learned to use the laws to skirt the IRS rules which prohibit religious organizations from getting involved with politics. These people just set up a separate organization as a political arm of the ministers. That allows them to keep their tax exempt status.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:40 pmThere wasn’t right wing talk radio and Fox News
September 26th, 2009 at 6:41 pmpolluting the airwaves, so the fifties weren’t all bad.
A better question is where did they all go?
September 26th, 2009 at 6:42 pmHoodathunk says:
There really is a trend in trolls lately towards more prepubescent behavior. Gone are the days of even faking an attempt at discussion. Now its just flaming bags of dog poo on the front steps while they hide in the bushes and snicker.
Actually these are the same trolls, different names. The ones that actually discussed things were few and far between. The trolls on this thread are not the ones with the mental aptitude to debate with a wet paper bag.
Same old trolls, hiding under different names, like the cowards they are. They are still idiots, though, no matter the names they use and they always will be.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:44 pmIn the 50’s, fascism had not yet overrun the Republican Party, so in that respect it was better in the 50’s.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:44 pm….and turned to enter her limo…
Why does this not surprise me? She certainly has an exaggerated sense of self.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:45 pmThe great thing about the 50s is that it had all the federal spending that benefited mostly white people and our preferred social policy. It’s was the right package. Only when social ills started unclogging did we start taking issue with federal spending – because it’s now benefiting people we in the GOP don’t like.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:46 pmWhere was she on the day he went missing? What is she trying to hide?
September 26th, 2009 at 6:47 pmMichelle Bachmann is hiding behind the bushes and I’d like to hide behind her bush.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:50 pmI’m not so sure, pags2. While the movement existed long before then, it wasn’t until Raygun that they had an unabashed member in the White House. And, on my optimistic days, I think they can be driven out.
While there are other issues, as the GOP has become more indistinct from the Religious Right their numbers are crashing. This suggests that the whole remainder of the GOP is the same bunch of wackos who pushed their agenda past a complacent public. There’s no reason to think that their numbers are growing and they never had the numbers to beat the real, moderate, majority of the American electorate. The only real danger I see is if we become complacent again too quickly but, even then, it’s going to be hard to sell the same old package.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:51 pmHow to stop feminist and gay attacks on the military
Wow, this is too creative even for me. The GOP actually means this.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:52 pmIt’s because of people like Bachmann that only 18% of Americans call themselves Republics today. At the rate they are going they will be gone by the 2010 election. It really puzzles me that they don’t see the damage they have done and are still doing to their party.
9/22/09 WSJ Poll
Generally speaking, do you think of yourself as a Democrat, a Republican, an independent, or something else? (IF “DEMOCRAT” OR “REPUBLICAN,” ASK:) Would you call yourself a strong (Democrat/Republican) or not a very strong Democrat/Republican)? (IF “INDEPENDENT,” ASK:) Do you think of yourself as closer to the Republican Party, closer to the Democratic Party, or do you think of yourself as strictly independent?
Strong Democrat..……….…………………. 22
September 26th, 2009 at 6:52 pmNot very strong Democrat ………. ……. 9
Independent/lean Democrat..………... 10
Strictly Independent ……….………..……. 22
Independent/lean Republican ……….. 11
>>>>>> Not very strong Republican……….….. 8
>>>>>> Strong Republican ……….……….……… 10
Other (VOL)…..……….……….………….….. 5
Not sure…………….……….………….…….. 3
What the GOP REALLY means … says:
You forgot that anti-Catholicism and anti-white ethnic was de rigeur in the Republican party. No Catholics, Jews, Italians, Poles, etc, allowed. That was to keep the party pure.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:53 pmMy first impression is skousen is so freaked out because after all these years he hasn’t been able to find some teenage Grenadian boys to wire him up again.
Poor w.
September 26th, 2009 at 6:59 pmLevi the Dungbeetle says:
In the 50’s, fascism had not yet overrun the Republican Party, so in that respect it was better in the 50’s.
Really? It seems like a pretty historically consistent theme with them. McCarthy, blacklisting, etc.
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pags2 says:
You forgot that anti-Catholicism and anti-white ethnic was de rigeur in the Republican party. No Catholics, Jews, Italians, Poles, etc, allowed. That was to keep the party pure.
Racism used to be much more complicated back when what we now call “white” was actually split up into scores of different “races.” Which just goes to show how fluid a concept “race” is to begin with, and how little it has to do with any objective reality.
September 26th, 2009 at 7:05 pmHow can anybody seriously consider voting for people this horribly warped? Such cluelessness astounds and boggles the mind. For instance, one would think that Jews would be in the streets if Obama was a Nazi. Instead they are one of his core constituents. The American people can see through this.
September 26th, 2009 at 7:07 pmDallasNE says:
How can anybody seriously consider voting for people this horribly warped?
I wouldn’t know since I live in Chicago and there are no Republicans here.
September 26th, 2009 at 7:11 pm@ 9. conservative guy says: #4 the 50’s were a great time. September 26th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Sure, if you could pass for WASP and you weren’t stuck in a small town on the backside of nowhere, etc.
Where were you, conguy?
September 26th, 2009 at 7:13 pmAfter the speech, Bachmann had only a few minutes to sign autographs and collect a stack of CDs and books from fans who’d followed her into the lobby.
This? Is the scariest part of that entire article, and that’s saying something considering what the *actual* story is.
September 26th, 2009 at 7:16 pm@ 95. Sorry, that was a little OT. Bachmann leaves me in a peevish state of mind though. I think the point that Bachmann was unprepared for the question is well taken. Not only is she a semi-crazed ditz, she’s quite unprofessional; guess those Oral Roberts and Regency U law degrees aren’t what they useta be, and perhaps never were.
September 26th, 2009 at 7:16 pmVirtual Pebble says:
@ 9. conservative guy says: #4 the 50’s were a great time. September 26th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Sure, if you could pass for WASP and you weren’t stuck in a small town on the backside of nowhere, etc.
Where were you, conguy?
I’m guessing not even a glimmer in daddy’s eye. Or daddy’s sister’s eye. You know, mommy’s.
September 26th, 2009 at 7:17 pmKayinMaine@68, I agree with you. Why would anyone vote Kay down for her comment? Repugs and wingnuts resort to hatred and violence. I get so freakin tired of listening to their lies and racist comments. Sometimes you stoop to their level and say things that are harsh. The big difference is that libs wont actually resort to violence,unlike the rightwingnuts.
September 26th, 2009 at 7:24 pm@ 92. elBruce & Levi… You haven’t seen High Church WASP Thug until you’ve encountered John Foster Dulles. And oddly enough, Dulles might have been thought by some to be a liberal, Republican cold-war variety. In fact, it may have been the Dulles brothers that set us up for Vietnam; I don’t know that Eisenhower would have given so much support to the abrogation of the Geneva accords that ended the French Indo-China War without the Dulles’s pushing it.
Bachmann seems to be the loony tunes descendant of that whole ’50s thing; she has attitudes that are straight out of the John Birch Society. I’m surprised she hasn’t let fly at Sarahcuda for talking to those Chinese Communists with Capitalist Characteristics. (snark)
September 26th, 2009 at 7:26 pmRE: P(o)S @ 50: FLAGGED for blatant racism.
September 26th, 2009 at 7:39 pmIt is no surprise she dodged the question – we should expect it. But on the other hand, she should have known she will be asked this question any time and place, so she should have a reply prepared. She didn’t. She must be awaiting her PR rep to tell her what to say.
She has blood on her hands — actually the entire GOP should feel some guilt and responsibility for the manner in which they have not discouraged violent talk and threats of violence.
I’d like to see her confronted by someone wherever she goes –if she feels harrassed, well, so be it.
September 26th, 2009 at 8:03 pmShe is guilty of inciting violence.
kevsters says:
This is a bit off topic, but this is an absolute must read article. “Hannity refuses to condone the bombing of children.”
http://progressnotcongress.org/?p=3001
You realize the article says exactly the opposite of what you’re implying in your post?
He refuses to CONDEMN the bombing of children. He *DOES* condone it, you yutz.
September 26th, 2009 at 8:13 pm#65 pete
September 26th, 2009 at 8:15 pmWhile I don’t wish to get off the subject here — I have very often thought that all students should take a semester or two in Greek and Roman mythology to balance out the twisted fundamentalism of today.
When one sees the correlation between the polytheism of the past and how it morphed into monotheism, you can readily see that religion is really superstition based on what people don’t understand, or care not to understand.
I hope this haunts her until her last day on the planet. Now that her chickens have come home to roost, she’s trying to close the door to the coop so that they can’t get in. That’s okay because they’ve relocated and are on her front lawn peccking away at the remnants of her sanity. Here’s a toast to many sleepless nights for you, Michele.
September 26th, 2009 at 8:20 pmHeck, Marie, I’d settle for teaching American history and mythology. Most of the Reichwhiners seem to be woefully misinformed about some pretty basic subjects. Anyone who can claim, with a straight face, that the Founding Fathers were trying to build a Christian utopia missed the whole point of our history.
September 26th, 2009 at 8:32 pmMichelle has taught me that Jesus is the Anti-Christ.
Also the Republicans love the lives they led in the 50’s But everything they do makes that impossible. You can no longer make ends meet with only one family member working.
September 26th, 2009 at 9:01 pmPS @31 says: Also, I hate wearing my seat belt. Government has no right telling me to wear one in my own car.
For 12 years, I responded to medical runs, including vehicle accidents. It was not pleasant picking up the pieces of those thrown from their vehicles or jammed into their front windows. It was not pleasant trying to comfort the survivors and trying to keep them away from the deceased person crumpled and bloodied – because they weren’t wearing seatbelts.
It is a lot easier on emergency responders, as well as accident victims, when they do wear seatbelts. So much for your griping about seatbelts……..wouldn’t you rather have a better chance of survival, or less serious injuries?
September 26th, 2009 at 9:15 pmWho is voting down the excellent parody artist, w_cleon_skousen?
Y’all need to vote him/her back into this realm!
September 26th, 2009 at 9:24 pmRE: Granada – Interesting read at this link:
http://www.counterpunch.org/gibson06052004.html
Neocons just can’t stop lying and sticking their noses into other’s business……..warmongerers, pure and simple. Some 40 odd years ago, my father (may he rest in peace) said that those who want war most are lacking souls. Never gave it much thought when he would say that, but as I’ve aged I think he was more on the spot than I realized at the time.
September 26th, 2009 at 9:29 pmCrazy people listen to Bachmann, and her dirty deeds are done.
Delusional. Dangerous. Not of the real world.
September 26th, 2009 at 9:41 pmI have a feeling Bachmann will only get worse from here. There’s no turning back for this one. It’s Bachmann’s world against the real world.
September 26th, 2009 at 9:43 pmIt may be that Bachmann’s “Thank you very much” response was genuine gratitude. Michele might have been delighted to find that her efforts were starting to pay off and had been recognized as such.
September 26th, 2009 at 10:25 pm… meanwhile…
Beck speaks to 7000 at Seattle: ‘The American people have not …
Seattle Times – Susan Gilmore – ?26 minutes ago?
In a sea of 7000 fans, controversial TV and radio talk-show host Glenn Beck took his crusade to Safeco Field today, saying he is the voice of reason in a divided America.
good grief…
September 26th, 2009 at 10:25 pmThank YOU? THANK YOU? Go masturbate with Barbed Wire, B!tch!
September 26th, 2009 at 10:29 pmSomeday the Republicans will realize that their thoughtless words and actions have real world consequences.
September 26th, 2009 at 10:43 pmWho would Jesus murder?
September 26th, 2009 at 10:50 pmWKS,
I am still waiting for you to either post a link supporting your license plate conspiracy or you need to man up and admit you lied.
I am also waiting for you to explain your alternative hypothesis that disproves the Theory of Evolution.
I am calling you out as a liar WKS.
September 26th, 2009 at 11:06 pmWKS = WCS
September 26th, 2009 at 11:06 pmNever expect Bachmann to assume any responsibility for any really stupid disingenuous statement she ever makes. Amazing the low level of discourse we hear out of her. As moderate Republicans, we find her very embarrassing. Her acquaintance with the facts is so skewed that she is a true embarrassment to our party.
September 26th, 2009 at 11:55 pmA Census worker came to my house a few months ago.
The poor guy was clearly scared I was going to pull a gun on him even though I came out in shorts and a t-shirt.
Thanks for making it harder for the government to follow the Constitution Bachmann.
September 27th, 2009 at 12:03 am@118
September 27th, 2009 at 12:18 amIf Christianity is the religion of love why do so many of you adherents harbor murderous fantasies?
OK, I said it before, and I will say it again.
Bachmann is what happens when crazy explodes on top of stupid.
September 27th, 2009 at 12:49 am@ the orj
If atheism is the way of logic and wisdom how did Stalin end up being allowed to run Russia?
September 27th, 2009 at 12:57 amHow about if we arm the census workers? The righties shouldn’t have any problem with the right to bear arms, hm?
If there were a hell, Michelle Bachman would burn in it. As it is, there is not afterlife, which is kind of a shame in her case.
September 27th, 2009 at 12:58 ammari2RR says:
As moderate Republicans, we find her very embarrassing. Her acquaintance with the facts is so skewed that she is a true embarrassment to our party.
Do you see the head of PETA or the ALF in a prominent position in the Democratic party? No, you don’t. We draw a line between left-wing crazy and left-wing responsible. The outliers we don’t listen to; ask Kucinich sometime why he doesn’t get any respect. Ponder the career of Nader.
But you on the right, you’ve forgotten completely how to draw the line between crazy and moderate.
The rest of the world views Michelle Bachmann as a “leading voice of the Republican Party.” That’s your fault. You don’t know how to quarantine your nutjobs. Could you imagine somebody trying to say that the lady who runs PETA is a “leading voice” of the left wing? We’d smack that talk down so hard and so fast it would count as a game-winning spike in the next Olympic volleyball championship. Seriously, we’ve got our (liberal) crazies locked the fcuk down. Period.
Take notes. Get your own house in order before you come complaining to us about how you are viewed.
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karendotcom says:
Bachmann is what happens when crazy explodes on top of stupid.
You make it sound so sexy…
September 27th, 2009 at 1:09 am@ 124. the orj says: @118, If Christianity is the religion of love why do so many of you adherents harbor murderous fantasies? September 27th, 2009 at 12:18 am
orj, don’t mix things up. Christianity may or may not be the religion of love, but that’s irrelevant. Most of the people who get in your face and call themselves Christians are actually Christianists. You might ask what the difference is; allow me an analogy.
A lot of people thought that Communists are people that advocate communism and all of it’s contingencies. Turns out, that isn’t true, strictly speaking. A person who advocates communism and all it’s contingincies, including living and working in communes, common ownership, etc, is called a communard. Someone who wants to have other people do that, or who is willing to force others to do that, while he or she personally lives the life of a bourgeoisie individual, is a communist. The same thing is true of people in the Christian community; Christians pretty much try to live the life that one might infer from the Sermon on the Mount and the Beatitudes and the various parables; Christianists try to get other people to do that while going their own merry corrupt way. Christianists are great ones for the “my way or the highway” versions of “Christianity”.
To return to your question, if it’s a Christianist, it’s not a murderous fantasy; it’s an exercise in visualization in preparation for carrying out a planned action. If it’s a Christian, it’s fantasy, it won’t happen, and you can guilt trip them about it tomorrow morning, if they haven’t already guilt tripped themselves.
September 27th, 2009 at 1:11 amI wonder what those who hate Christians will say if it turns out the teacher/census worker was a Christian?
September 27th, 2009 at 1:26 amI looked into the matter and it turns out that Bill Sparkman was indeed a Christian.
It’s a shame some people here feel the need to hate Christians.
September 27th, 2009 at 1:48 amcd says:
I looked into the matter and it turns out that Bill Sparkman was indeed a Christian.
News flash: Michelle Bachmann advocates murdering Christians.
September 27th, 2009 at 2:19 amw_cleon_skousen says:
Mr. Levi the Dungbeetle, why don’t you go to heck?
Does that mean I can expect the same response to my request for a link to the license plate story you mentioned? It sounds fascinating. Thank you.
September 27th, 2009 at 2:32 amYou have a point ElBruce.
Bachmann may never have said Census workers should be shot but she has been frighteningly effective job of getting people freaked out about the Census and her words have now born bitter fruit.
I wonder if Bachmann is proud of herself?
September 27th, 2009 at 2:50 amWayne A. Schneider
Google W_Cleon_Skousen and you’ll realize that WCS is a parody troll.
September 27th, 2009 at 10:04 amAs much as I would like to hang Bachmann up by her imaginary testicles I really do have to restrain myself in my thinking and wait for the investigation to ensue and conclude. If it DOES come out that HER rhetoric has caused some weak minded twit to act out of the fear that “The government is out to do you in”, that she so proudly emboldens, then it is time to remove her from an office that she is not remotely competent to handle. GO F#$@ YOURSELF YOU WACK JOB!
September 27th, 2009 at 10:05 amGoogle W_Cleon_Skousen and you’ll realize that WCS is a parody troll.
Google “trolling” and you’ll see than it doesn’t matter the context, IT’S STILL TROLLING.
September 27th, 2009 at 12:42 pm“Umm they are still investigating the murder. Stop jumping to conclusions you retarded libs.”
Yeah, yeah, we know how this works. We’re already through Stage One, where Conservatives say ‘It’s probably a suicide,’ now we’re onto Stage Two, where Conservatives start saying ‘We don’t know all the facts.’ Finally we’ll hit Stage Three, where Conservatives will say ‘it’s an isolated incident,’ trying to disavow any responsibility for enabling the crazies who did this.
September 27th, 2009 at 2:10 pmBill Sparkman was found earlier this month hanged from a tree near a Kentucky cemetery had the word “fed” scrawled on his chest. The FBI has been investigating whether or not the killing was related to his job as a Census worker.
Read more at: huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/27/bachmann-refuses-to-answe_n_301238.html
If this case is still under investigation, then it would be common sense that she is not allowed to talk about it till all the facts come out.
But then again common sense it not requiered to be a lib
September 27th, 2009 at 7:43 pmRe: i aint you @ 139:
Information was released indicating that Mr. Sparkmann had been stripped naked, his hands, feet,and mouth bound with duct tape, the word “FED” written on his chest with a Sharpie marker, and his census ID taped to his forehead.
REAL common sense, (as opposed to what Beckie Boo-De-Hoo means by that term) would indicate that this was a lynching. Oh, and a lynching victim does not necessarily have to be black.
September 27th, 2009 at 8:22 pmT.H.E.Cat —
what part of this case is still being investagated and she can’t talk about it, or don’t know any thing bout the case don’t you understand
September 27th, 2009 at 9:04 pmThe only reason she would be legally obligated not to talk about it, is if she was involved. And I think she is.
September 27th, 2009 at 9:20 pmShe has blood on her manicure. And apparently, thinks it’s lovely.
Poster #34- So I’m assuming you were part of Rayguns invasion of evil Granada?? Your story is suspect inasmuch as the John Kerry purple heart story was never at issue until the mid 2000’s and you claim it was an issue in 1983. Sorry, you’re lying and you know it.
September 28th, 2009 at 9:22 am“The Census Bureau turned over confidential information including names and addresses to help the Justice Department, Secret Service and other agencies identify Japanese-Americans during World War II, according to government documents released today.”
go ahead vote down facts.
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