Rep. Broun says that constituent who has major depression should go to the emergency room.
Rep. Broun says that constituent who has major depression should go to the emergency room.
One of the most radical opponents of health care reform is Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA). He has said that a public option would “kill people.” Last Tuesday, Broun was confronted by a constituent at a health care town hall who explained that he has has gone into debt because he can’t afford insurance for his major depressive disorder. In response to his constituent’s story, Broun said that “people who have depression, who have chronic diseases in this country…can always get care in this country by going to the emergency room.” That comment prompted boos from the crowd. Towards the end of Broun’s answer, a constituent yelled, “That’s why we need a public option!” which brought cheers from the audience. Watch it:
As Georgia Liberal explains, “Treating major depression is not a one-shot deal. That is like saying cancer patients should get treatment one night in the E.R. and it is all better. You cannot treat chronic conditions in the ER.”
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Grayson was right….Repugs want you healthy or dead. No money for health care.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:06 pmTowards the end of Broun’s answer, a constituent yelled, “That’s why we need a public option!”
– - In Georgia. Well shut my mouth.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:06 pmGeorgia Pride!! ?
October 1st, 2009 at 6:07 pmRepublican solution: Don’t get depressed.
Flaw in Republican solution: In order to not get depressed, you’d have to stop being a Republican.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:09 pmRep. Broun says that constituent who has major depression should go to the emergency room.
– - Keep in mind that Rep. Broun is a medical doctor.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:10 pmPerhaps the Congressman thinks that people with chronic conditions can just move into the ER lobby for however many months or years it takes to treat the disease.
Is this person bought and paid for by the insurance lobby, or is he just preternaturally stupid?
October 1st, 2009 at 6:11 pmSo, basically, Rep. Broun’s long-term solution for a health care system that leaves so many unprotected is for doctors to do more charity work?
That’s what it sounds like. I mean, he does say you can get care at an emergency room, but he acknowledges that it’s a really stupid way to deliver care.
Of course, just because he recognizes that it’s stupid does NOT mean that he doesn’t support it. He is a Republican, after all.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:11 pm***
it’s like the trolls who visit tp, they need
constant care and attention. they can’t get
that at an er that’s why they come here.
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twajie i’m looking at you.
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October 1st, 2009 at 6:12 pmCost of Average Emergency Room visit in 2003? $560.
Cost of Average Office Based visit in 2003? $121.
We could pay for 4 office visits and still record a savings over Emergency care.
Why do the Republicans think Emergency care saves money again?
http://www.meps.ahrq.gov/mepsweb/data_files/publications/st111/stat111.pdf
October 1st, 2009 at 6:16 pmPushback from the heretofore silent majority.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:17 pmWhen the paid disrupters, the paid bigmouths, the paid signwavers, and the brainwashed have gone home, the normal, regular people can speak up and they are. Even in Georgia.
ralph the wonder llama says:
So, basically, Rep. Broun’s long-term solution for a health care system that leaves so many unprotected is for doctors to do more charity work?
Can we get Congress to go along with this? Can MOC’s just live on their salaries, give up lobbyist money and donate their efforts in legislation?
Or does charity work violate the Republican capitalist idea of profit before all else?
Would Boner give up a tanning session so one of his constituents could afford cancer treatment? Enquiring minds want to know.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:17 pmIts important to keep in mind that it was the Repignofascist Party in 2000 and 2004 (especially 2000) that sold itself on the hilarious concept of being “compassionate conservatives.” This redneck Georgia congressman must have forgotten that moniker his despicable party used to use to describe itself.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:18 pmBecause paying more and getting less = freedom.
Everybody knows that.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:19 pmBroun is a doctor! And despite that, he suggest ER treatment for depression — what medical school gave him a license? They might consider rescinding it.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:19 pmRepublicanism is a chronic disease that eats at the very fabric of society.
When are people going to realize that our country will not mature and evolve until their policies and agendas are rejected?
Shoot, I TOTALLY forgot about the fact this country is owned by greedy corporatists and ain’t nuttin’ gonna change.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:19 pm‘Are there no prisons? No Emergency Rooms?’
October 1st, 2009 at 6:20 pm-Rep. Ebeneezer Broun
got his degree at that med school in grenada?
October 1st, 2009 at 6:20 pmWhen I moved to Georgia from New York 25 years ago Georgia was run by rural based, small minded, racist Democrats. After 25 years it is now run by rural based, small minded, racist Republicans.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:20 pmjoe cantwell says:
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it’s like the trolls who visit tp, they need
constant care and attention. they can’t get
that at an er that’s why they come here.
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twajie i’m looking at you.
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or am i looking at you?
:/
October 1st, 2009 at 6:21 pmDamn! That Pesky Left-Leaning Bias of Reality! Why don’t those Republic-bothering facts just go away when they ignore them?
October 1st, 2009 at 6:21 pmMarie, there are several medical doctors in Congress. One has to wonder why they abandoned their practices for politics. I am sure there are some like Gov. Dean who heard a higher calling. Judging by the comments of some, I think they were one step ahead of the hangman.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:22 pmPeople actually booed a Repug in Georgia? LOL! It sucks to be an Repug now.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:23 pmI’m surprised he didn’t just tell the person to pray for his depression to go away. Broun is one of the wacko religious fanatics who has compared president Obama with Hitler.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:27 pmCan you imagine sending someone with depression to the emergency room. After waiting 6 hours for care they’d probably kill themselves.
Oh, I just figured out why he’d send them there.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:29 pmtombaker says:
– – Keep in mind that Rep. Broun is a medical doctor.
got his degree at that med school in grenada?
– - Correspondence school he found on the back of a matchbook cover.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:31 pmPaul Broun. This man is a stupid, conniving Republican. Despicable. Conniving. Selfish. Deluded. Harmful. The consistant character of Republicans everywhere.
We should remember that when the Republicans raise the ‘character’ issue nex time.
Republicans – the party of:
October 1st, 2009 at 6:35 pmNo – character
No – integrity
They made it into an art. they own it.
They will project this shameful behavior onto others. We all know the drill now…
Republicans are sort of unique on health care. Unless it is highly contagious, they don’t see a problem. If they can’t catch it, why worry?
October 1st, 2009 at 6:45 pmRepublicans really do want people that need healthcare to die as quickly as possible.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:50 pmAlso, if you tend to get depressed, get rid of that gun. The correlation between guns and suicide is horrendous.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:51 pmSeems they passed a “quasi-public option” amendment this afternoon.
And the last name of the Congresswoman that brought the amendment up?
Cantwell.
Wow, joe. Got a relative in Congress?
October 1st, 2009 at 6:51 pmIf Broun was my Rep. I’d have major depression, too.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:55 pmRepublicans just plain suck.
Seriously. I’m truly disgusted.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:55 pmEmergency room visits by the uninsured cost me more in inflated charges for regular treatment than higher taxes would. It’s simply inefficient.
Also, I’m pretty sure emergency doctors would turn away anybody who was just there for depression.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:56 pmAnd the last name of the Congresswoman that brought the amendment up?
Cantwell.
Wow, joe. Got a relative in Congress?
Maria’s alright… we like her just fine here in the Great Northwest. But I love me some Patty Murray!
October 1st, 2009 at 6:59 pmI may have mis-heard it, but did some type of plan including a public option pass the finance committee late today? I can’t confirm it.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:02 pmReality kicks the GOP in the nuts again.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:03 pmThe Congressman is not a fool. However, he knows that a LOT of his VOTERS are goddamn fools! That is why he gives an answer that is obviously wrong and obviously stupid.
I listen to the radio and whenever health care reform is mentioned, almost always 2 or 3 idiots call in to say, “We already have universal health care. Anybody can go anytime to the ER and get medical care”. The Regressive Congressman wants to perpetuate such idiocy. That’s all.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:05 pmCool. I just wish the MSM would give more coverage to these town hall meetings. This is what people need to see so they understand the Republican plan for health care—nothing, nada, zilch, naught, zero.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:06 pmEverybody should go to the emergency room for everything. America is ER.
Americans put us out of power and we’re rubbing the pain in their faces because of it.
We were on the way to being a permanent pain-inflicting republican majority until you had the people had the gall to show up at the ballot box.
My party is going to teach you a thing or two about personal responsibility – shut up and take it.
We will try with all of our might to further torture this country. How do you like us now?
October 1st, 2009 at 7:06 pmAlso, I’m pretty sure emergency doctors would turn away anybody who was just there for depression.
I can tell you no on that one. ER docs recognize depression but know it isn’t a shot-in-the-butt, put-a-cast-on-it problem. And most feel bad because their single visit restriction can’t deal with the problem.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:07 pm#21 Hoodathunk,
October 1st, 2009 at 7:07 pmFrist was the first one I remember who used his medical license to diagnose from a fizzy videotape – he and his father formed a for-profit medical corporation.
From the blogpost;
“As Georgia Liberal explains, “Treating major depression is not a one-shot deal. That is like saying cancer patients should get treatment one night in the E.R. and it is all better. You cannot treat chronic conditions in the ER.””
No shit?
WTF is wrong with Rep. Broun? Does he have no contact with reality? Has he absolutely no understanding of mental health issues? (Don’t bother, trolls, that’s rhetorical and the obvious anwer is NO to the latter two questions, based on his advice to his constituent. What’s wrong with him is obvious too, but you don’t want to spend the next four or five hours whining about it on TP, do you?)
Certainly, ER is not the appropriate place for a depressive to go, unless they’ve hit the frayed end and are suicidal or a danger to others; then they could be taken to an ER for sedation and admission to a psychiatric ward. That’s kind of an acute condition though, rather than chronic. Depending on the clinic or hospital, they might be directed to an admitting process or sent elsewhere. An ER doesn’t have the resources to treat or confirm chronic depression, per se. And if you don’t have coverage for mental health issues, you’re on your own.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:07 pmYou didn’t mishear it, Marie… Maria Cantwell’s amendment passed with a weak public option but a public option nonetheless… Go, Maria!
October 1st, 2009 at 7:07 pmThe average American wouldn’t vote for my party with an exterminator on standby.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:08 pmThe public option would be administered by illegals to deny health care to republicans and refuse claims to white people beat up by Obamis.
Plus, I want to indulge in all the health care I crave – no rationing!
October 1st, 2009 at 7:10 pm@ 42. Actually, as I’ve phrased it, the answer to the second two rhetorical questions regarding Rep. Broun is Yes. Yes, he has no understanding, and yes, he has no contact; none whatsoever. In mental health issues, he’s an ignoramus and has no problem displaying ignorance. In such cases, though, it is better to simply plead ignorance rather than make a fool of yourself.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:11 pmIf Republicans could understand the idea of chronic versus acute, they would either shoot themselves or get on the bandwagon.
They are chronically lacking in empathy, compassion and acutely stupid.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:11 pm@ 44. What the GOP REALLY means … says: The average American wouldn’t vote for my party with an exterminator on standby. October 1st, 2009 at 7:08 pm
But, WtGOPRm, I thought you did have such; isn’t it Tom De Lay, standing by to dance, dance, dance? Thus being the circus aspect of our current political blood (on the floor) and circuses death spiral o’entertaining the electorate?
October 1st, 2009 at 7:15 pmRep. Broun’s statements provide the confirmation (as if any was needed!) that it is MEANINGLESS to look for bipartisan solutions.
Put a robust public option in the final bill (and maybe put a little chili sauce on the bill too!) and RAM it through the Republicans and the Lapdog Democrats in the Senate. End of all discussion.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:20 pmHmmm…
Verrrrrrrry inneresting contention on yer part, joe…
Soooooo… basically, if I’m follering yer logic correctly… ev’ry time I plants a foot, takes aim, and parks one o’ my size 12 brogans cleanly in a troll’s hinderparts… I’m PROVIDING medical service?
I hafta say… I LIKE it…
From now on… it’s Dr. TRoS…
October 1st, 2009 at 7:20 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
conservative guy says:
The guy with depression must be a liberal. If I was a liberal I’d be depressed too.
And being a conservative, you don’t even notice its a less than desirable thing. Obviously you equate depression with grumpy.
Maybe thats why the guys at the pub sit at the other end of the bar.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:25 pm51 conservative guy says
“It’s a new day – yeah!”
The knowable truth is that it’s the Right wingers that are angry and depressed. Everyone else is relieved, and getting on with it now that bush and Cheney are in prison. [i mean under investigation] (potentially under investigation).
you’d love the situation to be reversed but lying about it doesn’t make it true – except in Repuliscum world.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:25 pmI we were liberals, con guy, we wouldn’t have crust in our underwear and clumps of IQ on our pillow each morning.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:27 pmFrom now on… it’s Dr. TRoS…
Come on in, the South is fine! You can be as free to practice as Mengale down here with no repercussions. Freedom is wonderful. Thank goode for Turt reform.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:29 pmBadmoodman says:
Rep. Broun says that constituent who has major depression should go to the emergency room.
– – Keep in mind that Rep. Broun is a medical doctor.
Well he’s not much of a doctor and never really took his oath to heart. The depressed, if suicidal, will receive 72 hours worth of observation and therapy. Then, out…no follow-up, no fine tuning of the meds that can help if monitored to make sure the drug and dosage are correct. End result: people who self-medicate with illicit drugs, and die of an OD at 48, leaving two damaged children and a host of friends who tried to intervene but lacked the financial resources to pay for treatment.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:29 pmBut, WtGOPRm, I thought you did have such; isn’t it Tom De Lay, standing by to dance, dance, dance? Thus being the circus aspect of our current political blood (on the floor) and circuses death spiral o’entertaining the electorate?
That wigglin’ exterminator butt. Take that, EPA!
October 1st, 2009 at 7:30 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
I we were liberals, con guy, we wouldn’t have crust in our underwear and clumps of IQ on our pillow each morning.
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I & I t’ink ya got dat EXACTIGERLY backwards there… it’s “crust on the pillows and clumps of IQ in yer underwear”, mon…
***Puuuufff… puuuffff…***
***cough… cough… *** choke***
***thru clinched teeth***
Tee hee… thas gooooooood…
October 1st, 2009 at 7:33 pmConservative Guy said,
Why would liberals be depressed. We control the Executive and Legislative branches of the Federal government, and we will likely remain in power long enough to replace some of the conservative Supreme Court justices.
Liberals are looking at the first real shot we have had at insuring every American in my entire lifetime. If we can pass it with the Congress/Senate we have now, it’s the Republican’s Waterloo.
I think everyone knows Republicans are depressed and defeated. They are like cornered animals, trembling and very dangerous.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:33 pmYa know, if Delay is the hammer it isn’t real surprising the repubs can’t find a nail.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:34 pmMy cat is smarter than this guy.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:34 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
Thank goode for Turt reform.
__________
I beg yer pardon! I NEVER tries ta reform MY tarts…
I likes ‘em jes the way they are…
October 1st, 2009 at 7:35 pmBroun knows exactly what he is saying and how stupid it is. This is because the Republicans have dished out the line about health care and Broun is afraid to deviate from the party line. This really goes to why the public perceives the Republicans with disdain. Broun and other Republicans are behind the 8 ball because there is no Republican plan except to say no. The insanity of these statements is going to end up hurting the Republicans.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:36 pmif i was cg,
i’d troll lefty blogs waving boogers to get attention, and momentarily feel better about the dissolution of my junk-political science movement instead of doing anything positive to help boost the electoral chances for R’s.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:38 pmThe Republicans have no chance.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:39 pm***Puuuufff… puuuffff…***
***cough… cough… *** choke***
***thru clinched teeth***
Tee hee… thas gooooooood…
Hur Hur Hur Hur Hork Hork Hur Hur *snorkle* Har Har Har Har Hor Hor Hor Hor Hor Hur Hur Hur Hork Hork Hork Hork.
Just the way your mother likes it!
HAR HAR HAR HUR HUR HORK HORK HORK HORK HURK HURK!!!!
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Merkin says:
“When I moved to Georgia from New York 25 years ago Georgia was run by rural based, small minded, racist Democrats. After 25 years it is now run by rural based, small minded, racist Republicans.”
I am originally from Alabama and the above statement is true, the only thing strange is that they are the same people today as in the past. Just changed D to R.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:46 pm***
hey folks no relation to maria but i wish i was,
she’s a pretty cool chick.
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#50, tros, you can be dr. tros.
gene simmons is dr. love and
he’s all over pre-existing conditions :)
:p
October 1st, 2009 at 7:46 pmhttp://www.lvrj.com/news/breaking_news/Reid-Final-health-bill-will-have-a-public-option-63155937.html
Reid says final bill will have public option…
October 1st, 2009 at 7:49 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
b.lacca – it certainly will.
there’s nothing the R’s or the Lobbyists can do about that now.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:50 pmbelaccifer lacca says:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/breaking_news/Reid-Final-health-bill-will-have-a-public-option-63155937.html
They did it! They did it! They did it! They did it! RING THE BELL! *ding ding ding*. Throw the republicans out of the ring!
October 1st, 2009 at 7:52 pm71 – So?
He can probably sew stitches better,
but that doesn’t qualify him to run an insurance system.
thanks for that sample of pure Dook.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:52 pmDr. Duke, welcome to the floor. Don’t be afraid to share with us your first name. I’m sure the libs would like to get to know you better.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:54 pm75 – first name, twajie.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:55 pmDoes he know more about the medical field than you?
I dunno…
Rep. Broun says that constituent who has major depression should go to the emergency room.
… doesn’t look like it.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:55 pmOff to watch Olbydoon. Need new libs talk point.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:56 pmMr. Duke,
You listed some very impressive credentials for Rep. Paul Broun. Can you explain to me why someone with such an impressive track record would be so stupid as to send someone with depression to the emergency room?
October 1st, 2009 at 7:58 pmPaul is well-known for being Georgia’s only 100% house-call doctor.
Seems like he may not know anything about Emergency Rooms, doesn’t it Mr. Duke?
October 1st, 2009 at 7:58 pmThis is a perfect microcosm of how the Republican legislators have no idea about real life living conditions for the average American. From health care to recovering from a hurricane their response is to serve monied interests.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:00 pmFINALLY! a good news story!!!
not often a story here at TP make me SMILE…
thank you georgia “constituent” and “audience”!!!
October 1st, 2009 at 8:02 pmMr.Duke says:
“Paul (Broun) is well-known for being Georgia’s only 100% house-call doctor.”
Now there’s some fuel for the imagination….
October 1st, 2009 at 8:03 pmPaul is well-known for being Georgia’s only 100% house-call doctor.
So he has no experience with treating the mentally ill? Perhaps a concierge practice?
October 1st, 2009 at 8:05 pmConservaTROLL
You SHOULD be depressed because you are so stupid. In fact you should just kill yourself because you are so stupid and such a worthless pile of dogshit.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:07 pmPerhaps Rep. Broun’s definition of an emergency room is outside of the norm…
For him it might be the little rooms with all the plumbing… in all the houses he calls on.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:20 pmThe houses that have those little rooms with flowers on the wall….
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That is the repugs’ answer for everything. YOU beg for it, YOU get the free shit in the public bin, YOU can clod the ERs with non-ambulatory illnesses, and so on YOU, YOU, YOU. Everything they do is bs.
18% isn’t the majority, repugs. teabaggers torn down the middle-class and made the upper class unattainable. The sent the rules to benefit 1% of the population.
broun is ridiculous, mean, greedy, shameless, dictating idiot. Basically a flaming repug.
He is clearly stating an insurance stronghold on it’s citizens are better for his pocket.
The fakeass websites and the overt klan/nazi marches, the blatant stupidity all traits of a slimy repug. The fake questions of “where’s the money going to come from.”
Why can’t teabaggers understand everything can’t be bought?
Healthcare reform is a no brainer for sane people.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:23 pmPS
you’re ill.
and, i’ll bet, more than a little depressed,
what with the R’s prospects…
October 1st, 2009 at 8:23 pmGoing to the hospital for everything when uninsured or not makes the cost of health care to go up for everyone else. Hey wait! This is why the republicans tell everyone to go to the hospital for depression, hang nails, and hiccups! They hate everyone else. Nevermind.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:24 pmHey, folks, listen to this crap! THE BOTTOM LINE: Pass a public option and if it sucks, people will flee from it after a year and it will die on the vine! If it doesn’t, it will attract more people and force the competition to step up to the plate! Let the market place decide!!!!!!!!!
October 1st, 2009 at 8:25 pmThis one goes high on my list for the single most evil and willfully stupid things said in the entire debate over health care.
Go die in a fire, Mr. Broun. You’ve darkened the world too much with your foul presence.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:25 pmI pronounce the repug party dead on arrival…..No need for CPR, MRI’s, no health care for that party.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:26 pmpoor lil righty pups,
not only are they consigned to chasing squirrels,
they have to do it on a frozen pond,
where none of their little puppy paws
can gain any traction.
i’m sorry.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:27 pmBadmoodman says:
Rep. Broun says that constituent who has major depression should go to the emergency room.
– – Keep in mind that Rep. Broun is a medical doctor.
DDDDDDAAAAAAMMMMMMNNNNNN
October 1st, 2009 at 8:28 pmtombaker says:
PS is ill, and I respect the right of the terminally ill to choose self-euthanasia.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:31 pmExcellent bedside manner “Doctor” Broun.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:31 pmThe health care industry, as it is known, is a business.
It has not a lot of health or care.
It’s just business.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:32 pmOne of the most often cited triggers for suicide among those who suffer from mental illness and lack insurance is the financial ruin brought on by the bills from emergency or urgent care.
Oops! I forgot. These brainless, heartless, soulless, scum think suicide is a public service.
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Politically Inferior said,
Wrong again wingnut.
What sort of human excrement would tell a depressed person to drown themselves? You are not worthy to call yourself an American. You are not worthy to call yourself a human being.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:34 pmPolitically Superior says:
“Depression is not an “illness”. If you’re depressed and can’t handle it, etc…”
October 1st, 2009 at 8:37 pm….post here to take out your frustrations by annoying us.
Are we your emergency room, father Superior?
aaronk says:
Those who enroll would pay for it via their taxes, and those who don’t, won’t.
Oh, you’ve entered the bargaining phase already?
No thanks, I think we’ll continue to do whatever we like with our uncontested control of the government. If you don’t like it, try winning elections for a change.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:37 pm***
twajie got a hold some bad meth
that’s why he’s name jacking again.
he’s off to the er. he’ll be back when
his nose stops bleeding like a broken faucet.
>=0
October 1st, 2009 at 8:38 pmI am having neck surgery tomorrow morning. I am a cnc machinist who always had good health insurance through my employer. I was laid off in december. I could not afford cobra. I have been out in the work force since im 16 years old(28 years) paying my share in taxes.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:41 pmFor the second time in my life I am collecting unemployment benifits.
I will be having lympnodes removed from my neck, its surgery that needs to be done. I am bringing this up because im curious to know who the wingnut trolls think is going to pay for this. Anyway I will be looking forward to coming home and going on TP I will still be high as a kite from the general anesthesia. It is going to make reading wingnut BS go down easily.
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Broun is an idiot, and typical of the total lack of intelligent thinking and compassion within the repiggie ranks today.
We need to punish the repiggies severely in the next elections.
Don’t vote for any of the trash even for local office.
They are all part of the problem.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:42 pmaaronk at #100:
I agree, but I believe those that sign up for the public option will be paying actual premiums.
all: I also wish to beg forgiveness for my intemperate remark at #96. No matter the troll’s ignorance, insensitivity, or inhumanity, I had no right to say that.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:43 pm***
#106,
“If you goal is to have a public option…”
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foreign language, i guess.
:|
October 1st, 2009 at 8:44 pmFirst Cantor tells a woman to seek charity, Now this Bozo tells someone with Depression(Yes trolls, Depression IS an illness) to go to the hospital? Oh my, what empathy these Repugs have! I guess the woman who was bleeding from the nipple was just PMSing too. After all, the Insurance Company didn’t think it was an emergency. I mean, I guess we are all whiners aren’t we? WTF?!!
October 1st, 2009 at 8:44 pmPoliticallySTUPID
Depression is an illness MORON. Do the WORLD a favor and go suck on a tailpipe. The world will be a much better place without you in it. You ignorant pile of dogshit
October 1st, 2009 at 8:45 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
This is precisely what the for profit insurance corporations want to happen. They skim off the health and wealthy Americans and allow everyone else to fight for their lives with once and awhile emergency room visits. Is this how the “world leader” provides “… contentment and health…?” for its citizens?
At least the for profit insurance corporations are keeping the stockholders fat and happy.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:46 pmI hope every hospital administrator in the country hears or sees this!
October 1st, 2009 at 8:48 pm#114 The Liberty Handbook says:
So how do we know this constituent really can’t afford health insurance?
- because he works for minimum wage at a bookstore in a college town.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:48 pmaaron
And millions more DO want it. IN fact polls show a majority DO want a public option. I say next time we have a war let the warmongers pay for it and those of us that DONT want it dont have to pay taxes for it. You really dont get this democracy thing do you? You soulless Ebenezer Scrooge worshippers shame all decent human beings much less Americans
October 1st, 2009 at 8:49 pmThe Liberty Handbook says:
“So how do we know this constituent really can’t afford health insurance?”
What, are you dense?
October 1st, 2009 at 8:50 pmThe level of this lady’s need is irrelevant. That POS, Broun’s, answer proves that he lacks the basic minimum level of knowledge of the subject he’s “debating”. He’s so effing ignorant of it, in fact, that I must assume he’s too effing stupid and evil to have a vote in the House. He’s an incompetent fool with no compassion or understanding of the human condition. And anyone who would support his action is as guilty, and repugnant, as he is.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:52 pmPolitically Inferior,
As one who was born with a seratonin/norepinephrine imbalance (what is commonly called Severe Depressive Disorder), I really do think you should stfu about things about which you obviously know nothing.
The body’s receptors for these chemicals happen to reside in the liver, and, as it is commonly a result of fetal alcohol effect (when the father drinks heavily before conceiving a child, as differentiated from fetal alcohol syndrome), it is a real, and devastating illness.
You’re prolly one of those who think just “happy-talk” will snap one out of it.
My answer is in the form of a question. Do you think diabetes is not a real illness? Another chemical imbalance one should just show up at an ER for?
The uninformed crap spewed by the ignorant/stupid wingers is jaw-dropping, to be sure.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:53 pmMr Duke (#71)
Unfortunately for Dr Broun it is also well known that the reason he is a 100% house call doctor is because he was forced out of his group practice for being a belligerent jerk.
See the thing with being a house call Dr is that sometimes you do it because you care but other times you do it because no one else can stand to work with you.
Broun’s record of closed minded uncaring “representation” of GA’s 10th District is well known. With his two recent town halls in Watkinsville and Athens he has finally pissed off the people who are going to make sure he doesn’t get reelected.
It might take a lot to get a bunch of artists and musicians into the public policy arena but once you’ve got us there you had better watch out.
Dr Broun is not long for the Congress.
I will sign my real name as I think anonymous comment posts are an enemy of the democratic process.
Yours,
October 1st, 2009 at 8:53 pmRyan M Lewis
WSLA
Oops! that should be “The level of this gentleman’s need..”. My mind was two places at once.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:54 pmLiberty Handbag more like.
always thinking about the money, not the health…
October 1st, 2009 at 8:55 pmor the care.
pete says:
“Oops! that should be “The level of this gentleman’s need..”. My mind was two places at once.”
Where’s the other place, pete?
October 1st, 2009 at 8:57 pm;)
ps said depression isn’t an illness. Could it be? politically superior is Tom Cruise?
October 1st, 2009 at 8:57 pmRep. Broun has “public” health care. What does he know about what ordinary citizens have to deal with? ;)
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Politically Superior says:
Depression is not an “illness”
The AMA disagrees with you, doc.
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Mr.Duke says:
Does he know more about the medical field than you?
If he’s not mistaken, then he was lying.
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aaronk says:
We should end the dispute and set up a public option for those who want it, and allow those who don’t want it to opt out. Those who enroll would pay for it via their taxes, and those who don’t, won’t.
Actually, I believe that’s exactly what has been proposed, and what the GOP is currently fighting against. If everybody had to have it, it would be single-payer. I realize it can be hard to keep track of where the goalposts have been moved to from day to day.
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The Liberty Handbook says:
So how do we know this constituent really can’t afford health insurance?
Standard wingnut tactic: blame the victim.
Even if your reprehensible line of attack were the case, there are still many people who are in that situation. You can’t possibly be arguing that there are zero uninsured people who have conditions they can’t afford to have treated in Georgia… are you?
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aaron
Our country hasnt been DEFENDED since WW2. Vietnam, Iraq, there was no DEFENSE there. So IF providing healthcare for the needy is ‘electable’ Then so is capturing corporate resources and fighting aggressive actions for corporate America. As I said you really dont get this Democracy thing
October 1st, 2009 at 9:04 pmi’ve got a new one. the libs would set up sex clinics in addition to their proposed death panels. they just don’t know when to stop.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:05 pmNo place special, noseeum. Just the evening BS on local Reichradio about how “global warming can’t be much of a problem if Obama thinks it can be solved”. I’m afraid they’ve gotten to the point of politicizing weather reports. They seem to think that the approaching fall weather is proof that “global warming is a hoax”.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:06 pmGod you are stupid Dr Venture. I notice Bush had a war and didnt listen to some of the Generals. Should we give EVERY doctor in America veto power over medical policy or only the conservative ones. The entire concept of logic is just far beyond your meager capabilities isnt it?
October 1st, 2009 at 9:07 pmThe Liberty Handbook states that rape should be legalized as ‘enforced sex’. Freedom, libs.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:08 pmThe “doctor” is a phucking moron who proposes that chronic illnesses can be treated in emergency rooms, stupid troll. I’d pull his license, assuming he has a valid one, for that alone.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:08 pmWas invading iraq defending? No! It was a war of aggression and we have more weapons than we need to “defend” ourselves.
Your implication that military is so necessary to defende us looks pretty foolish in the light of 9/11.
We say health care is just as important as defense. You don’t have a say anymore. You threw that away.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:09 pmpete says:
“I’m afraid they’ve gotten to the point of politicizing weather reports.”
Weather reports are definitely steered towards commerce.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:09 pmFor that matter, if I found out a “doctor” was a (R-Ga.)? I’d run screaming from the room.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:09 pmaaron the as*hole’s here? You mean the paid industry shill who pussied out on his bet with Fred?
Damn, I know this threads going nowhere.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:10 pmkwsventures says:
You want your health care, but you don’t want to listen to the doctor. Interesting.
If someone doesn’t have health care, they don’t have a doctor! You aren’t very bright are you son? LOL! ;)
October 1st, 2009 at 9:10 pmAnd it is this kind of an attitude that emergency room visits cost what they do. I was charged $350 for a five minute visit to a doctor to get a prescription on Christmas day. I confronted them on that ridiculous cost and was told that they had to charge those kind of fees because they have to make up for all the uninsured they are “forced” (that was her word) to see.
If everyone had health insurance, emergency rooms could do what they are supposed to do, provide emergency care and not charge over $3,000 an hour to do it.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:11 pmaaronk says:
this is a service (healthcare) that can be electible….it is basically impossible to elect out of having your country defended.
What a false claim on every level!
They’re both the same, but the difference is that people will die without health care while Iraq didn’t attack us ever! ;)
October 1st, 2009 at 9:11 pmThe only area in which this country could do much more for national defense and preservation of the Union would be to commit every GOP lawmaker for a three day psyche evaluation and let them prove they aren’t a danger to themselves and others.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:12 pmpags2 says:
Cool. I just wish the MSM would give more coverage to these town hall meetings. This is what people need to see so they understand the Republican plan for health care—nothing, nada, zilch, naught, zero.
repugs would vote against public choice no matter what. They are told us and have shown us they will go for the insurance companies making outlandish salaries and against ill.
So we will get this done on our own with a choices.
BTW — hopefully this will weed out the doctors who are just plain terrible. These quacks are in it for the money and prestige, like broun.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:13 pmaaronk says:
it is basically impossible to elect out of having your country defended.
k, that’s cool..can I opt out of having my country attack others who have not attacked us?
October 1st, 2009 at 9:14 pm“…commit every GOP lawmaker for a three day psyche evaluation…
I’d like to be one of the evaluators.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:16 pm“The” doctor your are talking about just either made an unforgivible mistake in diagnosing this person or he is a liar.
Are you saying all doctors are above reproach? Are you that naive? Oh yeah, look who I’m asking. You actually think you have a point!
October 1st, 2009 at 9:17 pmRep. Boner hasn’t met one person who supports the public option.
That’ll happen to you in a country club.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:17 pmaaronk says:
We should end the dispute and set up a public option for those who want it, and allow those who don’t want it to opt out. Those who enroll would pay for it via their taxes, and those who don’t, won’t.
Ok, if you want to go that route, then I guess we need to set up a system whereby if you don’t support wars of aggression our country gets into, you can opt out of having your taxes pay for it. I would much rather have my tax dollars going towards making sure my neighbor can have health care than to have it spent on needless wars. But, then, that’s just me. I’m not a “compassionate conservative”.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:17 pmIt is truly amazing how low the bar is for these scumbags isn’t it? I mean, I actually lost count of how many times aaronk had been caught lying here.
I guess if you know you are the wino in the group, why try to hide it.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:19 pm#105 sscncturn64
You’re probably in bed by now, preparing for an early morning. Good luck with your surgery.
As for paying for it, I am sorry you have no options — and your hardship is truly a disgrace for the nation. Hardworking people cannot get health care when they need it. Only in America.
P.S. I am sure you will find no shortage of wingnut b.s. when you return here.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:22 pmUnreal. The tide is turning and the people are pissed. The ‘Town Halls’ are finally showing how people are rejecting the Repugs positions, and where the Hell is MSM? In the beginning of the Summer we saw angry bullies screaming at Dems. Oh sure, MSM made them look ‘Mainstream’. But when the ‘Town Hall’ protesters starting screaming and jeering at people with serious, cronic illnesses(Remember the woman in the wheelchair?) they started to move on to more serious things. (Micheal Vick anyone?) Now when Americans are really serious about Health care reform, MSM will let us down again. The lead to the iraq War comes to mind.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:25 pmWho the h#ll thinks depression is not an illness? Depression is devastating to millions of people and their families.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:26 pmDo you think people choose to be depressed. Its like wingnuts who think people choose to be gay. I cannot comprehend repugs and wingnuts who are so against healthcare for everyone.
Who cares how much it cost. What is more important to you?
Money,a few dollars more in taxes, or knowing that every American will get treated for their illness. So what you are implying is if you lose your job and health insurance and your baby girl or boy needs medical treatment for a fatal illness you will let them die instead of seeking treatment courtesy of our government. Wheres you fcking compassion? Get lost wingnuts.
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Best wishes, sscncturn64. Don’t sign anything until the “general” wears off!
October 1st, 2009 at 9:26 pmkwsventures says:
A litmus test for doctors? If you go to the doctor, do you ask him if he is a liberal or conservative.
I’ve heard Conservative trolls here say they ask them just that.
kwsventures says:
Is this the most important question to ask? Does it matter? If he says conservative do you walk out? Not listen to him? Do the opposite he suggests? Are you afraid that conservative will let you “die quickly”. Finally, are you insane?
You really shouldn’t ask people questions that you’d best ask yourself! Why do you want 40,000 Americans to die every year? Are you insane? ;)
October 1st, 2009 at 9:28 pmaaronk says:
We should end the dispute and set up a public option for those who want it, and allow those who don’t want it to opt out. Those who enroll would pay for it via their taxes, and those who don’t, won’t.
You have to be the worst troll on my floor today, and that says alot.
There is already a proposal for those who want it, it’s called the public option. And it’s not free, it eliminates the slushy overhead of private insurers and gives people in the private market a bargaining chip. People would not have to pay CEO salaries and lobbyist junkets.
Why isn’t my party speaking out against the proposed subsidies, about $480 billion, to the inefficient insurance giants? How could you possibly whip them into shape that way (not that we care!)?
October 1st, 2009 at 9:29 pmI suspect that the number of competent doctors who identify themselves as Republicans is about the same as for scientists. About six percent sounds right. Smart people are fleeing from the GOP like rats from a sinking ship.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:30 pmLooks like aaronk and the GOP doesn’t understand the public “option” is “option”al! ;)
October 1st, 2009 at 9:33 pmIf you’d been around you would know that I do in fact ask that and it is a prerequisite that my doctor is a democrat.
I searched until I found one in my area and I am very satisfied with him.
That was after being run through a guantlet of doctors who were just in it for the money. Who took my money and didn’t help my problem, repeatedly.
I do not want a republican doctor, period!!!
October 1st, 2009 at 9:33 pmaaronk says: it is basically impossible to elect out of having your country defended.
We defend the people to protect them from harm? right? But then say awe screw you sicko go to the ER wah wahh
Whats the point then of all the defensive systems? If you dont care about the people your defending, why defend them?
Seriously. Have people lost their minds.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:33 pmsscncturn64 says:
“Who the h#ll thinks depression is not an illness? Depression is devastating to millions of people and their families.”
Depressed by the economic slavery of the common man by the
October 1st, 2009 at 9:33 pmProfit Care Industry.
Are you afraid that conservative will let you “die quickly”.
kws, let’s stop bullshitting the liberals and finally admit it: we want people who can’t line our pockets or make the smallest claims to die quickly. Our policies fit that description anyway.
When we tried “death panels” with the libs, that was our wacky interpretation of a bill; the libs are simply pointing the real life effects of our policies and insurance company hell we condone. We have the conservative death panels and we’d like to keep the market cornered. That means no death panel competition.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:34 pmI might add that I’ve seen far too many doctors over the last few years. Some have been unimaginative or unresponsive and I have indeed demanded to see someone else. I even called 911 from the ward when I was having an allergic reaction to a med and the nurse was too stupid/stubborn to admit it. And it wasn’t easy with my eyes swelled shut and my throat soon to follow but, it sure got their attention!
October 1st, 2009 at 9:38 pmDr Venture. How about a litmus test for trolls. Either show some critical thinking skills or STFU. Since you will NEVER manage the former do us a favor and do the latter.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:40 pmIf you go to the doctor, do you ask him if he is a liberal or conservative.
No, you look for the AMA plaque on the wall.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:40 pmIf you go to the doctor, do you ask him if he is a liberal or conservative.
No, you look for the AMA plaque on the wall.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:40 pmXisithrus says:
That was so librul I voted it up both times.
(Up is Down, right?)
October 1st, 2009 at 9:44 pmMarie & Pete,
October 1st, 2009 at 9:47 pmThankyou. My surgeons office is going to set up a payment plan for me. I was going to say that im fortunate enough to have a doc who will do the surgery without payment up front. The thing is I should have the option to get insurance through our government. Like I said ive been working for 28 years and paying taxes to help support our government. Why shouldnt people in my situation be able to get insurance until I get another job.
Think about it, sitting here, we have pundits and politicks saying how we gotta spend trillions to defend americans in wars [and even without] because americans were killed on 911 and the next day these same folks are saying tovhades with those sick americans. Go to the ER. I dont care if 45,000 people die a year.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:47 pmsscncturn you should. Everyone should
October 1st, 2009 at 9:49 pmUp is Down, right?)
And right is wrong.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:52 pmPaul Broun is family physician, a category of medicinal practice very, very well know for treating long-term chronic depression, including, one might guess in Broun’s case, through referrals to the emergency room.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:59 pmhttp://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/amanda_lang/2009/09/witness-recalls-ga-rep-paul-br.php
Xisithrus says:
“Think about it, sitting here, we have pundits and politicks saying how we gotta spend trillions to defend americans in wars…”
War is all about business as well.
The business needs to perpetuate conflict.
The “For Profit” Health Care Industry perpetuates illness.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:00 pmI’m not afraid the conservatives will let me “die quickly.” I’m concerned that through lack of treatment under the GOP “plan” my (hypothetical) condition will worsen, causing great pain, suffering and expense. And when I seek to die quickly, it will not be allowed (remember Terry Schaivo?)
The Reich claims to be so pro-life, but that’s only for the unborn and those with one foot in the grave already.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:01 pmNo, no photographers please. Think of the children.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:01 pmhttp://onlineathens.com/images/072607/23471_223.jpg
The “For Profit” Health Care Industry perpetuates illness.
Yeh, there as bad as the junk fast food industry
October 1st, 2009 at 10:11 pmOh yes! There’s no better cure for a case of depression than waiting in long lines to see a doctor surrounded by sick people and who might just send your depress plummeting to unreachable depths. That’s the ticket! Go to the hospital and tell them you’re bi-polar or manic-depressive or just depressed and let Big Pharma take care of you!
October 1st, 2009 at 10:11 pmThe conservatives will not let you die quickly.
They will keep you sick and coming back for more surgery.
Until your money runs out.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:11 pmThe Moderate Squad says:
The Reich claims to be so pro-life, but that’s only for the unborn and those with one foot in the grave already.
I disagree. They don’t care about the unborn either. They don’t get health care either under Republican “Pro-Life” values! ;)
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aaronk says:
Regarding military defense, it is almost impossible to defend some citizens and not others.
I disagree. Bush not doing his job murdered citizens in NY and killed citizens in Iraq that didn’t need to die!
aaronk says:
With healthcare, it is very easy to opt out of a public system and not receive the care nor pay into it.
Not true. That’s why there’s a mandate! ;)
aaronk says:
To all the posters above who went off regarding the Iraq War. I also don’t consider that war “defense” and have been against it on here and other sites consistently. I wish the taxpayers had that money back.
The point is your claim to defense is stupid… It still holds!
October 1st, 2009 at 10:20 pmaaron
What part of we HAVENT BEEN DEFENDING ANYONE that you are just congenitally unable to comprehend? It is easy as can BE to use our military to benifit ONLY the corporate and wealthy, by aquiring resources and aggressively attacking countries for ideological reasons. I didnt benifit ONE IOTA from those conflicts so your entire argument is based on a faulty premise. This has already been pointed out to you at least THREE TIMES and you ignored it THREE TIMES. If you are going to ignore it again and make the same stupid irrelevant argument you are just being a troll and PURPOSEFULLY avoiding the point. Stop making dishonest arguments or just admit you are being a troll and dont care in the LEAST about honest debate
October 1st, 2009 at 10:21 pmaaronk. When you’re talking about defense, how often have we been attacked by a military in the last 50 years again? And why do we have a military budget that consumes 54% of federal income taxes?
October 1st, 2009 at 10:22 pmThe only way to opt out as you say. Is to let people DIE when they cant afford medical care. I am against that. People shouldnt die because they are poor or stupid
October 1st, 2009 at 10:22 pmaaronk doesn’t realize we spend about 200 billion a year to secure assets of American Corporations abroad. Even though most of those companies pay little or no taxes! ;)
October 1st, 2009 at 10:23 pm(I would have posted this earlier but was busy!)
GO HERE to tell him he’s stupid.
http://broun.house.gov/Contact/zipauth.htm
For the ZIP+4, simply plug in one from his offices…or call…fax.
Washington D.C. Office
325 Cannon House Office Bldg
Washington, D.C. 20515
Phone: (202) 225-4101
Fax: (202) 226-0776
Augusta / Evans Office
4246 Washington Rd, Ste 6
Evans, GA 30809-3087
Phone: 706-447-3857
Fax: 706-868-8756
Athens Office
3706 Atlanta Hwy, Ste 3B
Athens, GA 30606-7202
Phone: 706-549-9588
Fax: 706-549-9590
Toccoa Office
October 1st, 2009 at 10:25 pm194 Remsdale Street
Toccoa, GA 30577-1899
Phone: 706-886-1008
Fax: 706-886-1009
Is the idiot “I don’t want to be a gNOpig” still bit chin about why he can’t leave the party of SORE LOSERS?
Check the calendar, aaronwannabe-a-gNOpig Are you up to fix what the Chimperor f-ed up in short eight years?
October 1st, 2009 at 10:36 pmThis is what happens when a republican talking point goes wrong. God forbid these robots actually think about an answer.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:36 pmHuh. They want you to die quickly so they can collect on the life insurance policy you dont know about and securitize them.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:37 pmRegarding military defense, it is almost impossible to defend some citizens and not others.
But now we are talking offense, not defense, in wars of choice.
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aaron
IF you understand that then you SHOULD understand that offense is benifitting only SOME citizens and therefore your ENTIRE PREMISE WAS FLAWED FROM THE BEGINING. What is it about that YOU dont understand?
October 1st, 2009 at 10:45 pmsscncturn64 says:
October 1st, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Take care, and let us know how you’re doing.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:49 pmsscncturn64, best wishes to you on your surgery. This won’t really help but Stephen Colbert says Max Baucus wants you to send him your bill. LINK.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:51 pmkronk, don’t you have businesses to run and office to run for. … snort …
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The aarong troll equates health care reform with the Iraq War.
Why does this not surprise me?
October 1st, 2009 at 10:56 pmI don’t agree with it, but as long as it is being sold as “defense” it is a taxpayer obligation.
A taxpayer obligation that also includes public health care.
October 1st, 2009 at 11:00 pmaaron
You are flat out wrong on many levels first the majority of Dems in Congress voted AGAINST the Iraq war so that is a talking point without merit. Second However it was SOLD it WASNT defense so it COULD be payed for ONLY by those who wanted it. Healthcare also could be SOLD as defense for the country. Saying everyone must get healthcare so infectuous disease doesnt kill Americans who DIDNT opt out. IF something is SOLD in a way that isnt reality that doesnt MAKE it reality. That legislation IS popular WITH a majority. The minority doesnt get to make policy for the majority except when individual rights are concerned and how much taxes you pay is NOT an individual right. I am sure a bunch of people didnt want highways or rural electrification. TOUGH. The bottom line is that it WASNT defense so I was NOT being defended only a portion of Americans benifited so your ENTIRE PREMISE WAS FLAWED. It is JUST. THAT. SIMPLE.
October 1st, 2009 at 11:02 pmkwsventures says:
You want your health care, but you don’t want to listen to the doctor.
If Broun was diagnosing a complex condition from across the room, then his license should be revoked. And is this what you consider “doctoring?” Telling a depressed person to go to the emergency room? If so, it’s no wonder that you think the crap health care in this country is all we deserve.
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FWIW says:
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/amanda_lang/2009/09/witness-recalls-ga-rep-paul-br.php
Holy crap, he’s not even a doctor? Isn’t that illegal?
October 1st, 2009 at 11:02 pmAlso since we are NOT going to allow people do DIE when they need healthcare it is FINE to make everyone pay for healthcare.
October 1st, 2009 at 11:04 pmaaronk says:
Yes, I agree that our recent conflicts aren’t for the purpose of defense, and I do not support them in any way. What don’t u understand about that?
Because you keep voting for and defending Republicans? ;)
October 1st, 2009 at 11:09 pmaaronk says:
Healthcare is something that we can opt out of and choose not to pay for if we wanted to.
Not with an insurance mandate! ;)
October 1st, 2009 at 11:10 pmaaronk says:
arronk is what the mules say around here….
October 1st, 2009 at 11:19 pmZooey & Shayne,
October 1st, 2009 at 11:22 pmThankyou. Thanks for the link Shayne. I should send baucus the bill just to see how they respond.
Its almost midnight, no more eating and drinking due to surgery. Goodnight all.
Heh! Like I figured, he’s a “doctor” only in the vaguest sense. No competent physician would say such a stupid thing.
October 1st, 2009 at 11:26 pmNo surprise there. The stupid troll’s biggest regret about Iraq is the money. I’m afraid there’s nothing human to argue with in this one folks.
October 1st, 2009 at 11:30 pmFrom Broun’s web page:
Paul C. Broun, Jr. grew up in Athens, Georgia where he attended Athens High School and graduated from the University of Georgia in 1967 with a B.S. in Chemistry. In 1971, he received his Medical Doctor degree from the Medical College of Georgia in Augusta. An internship at Good Samaritan Hospital in Portland, Oregon and a residency at University Hospital in Birmingham, Alabama followed.
IN short, born in Athens, college in Athens, med school at nearby Augusta. About as inbred academically as you can get. Not to mention the other kooky Georgia politicians who went to Athens.
From the AMA-ASSN.org Doctor Finder he is self designated as Family Practice (won’t see any depressed people there, huh ?).
Medically, his ER approach is malpractice. As noted above, ERs don’t provide long-term follow up and depression definitely needs a strong relationship between physician and patient. Additionally, the death rate from depression is higher than a lot of other diseases thought of as fatal, such as heart attacks.
October 1st, 2009 at 11:59 pmto much jerky and to many slurpees got you cranky?
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:21 amI wonder if he also does diagnosis by video, like other GOP “doctors” in Congress have.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:53 am.
AMERICA WANTS
CONGRESS CARE
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Special Health Care for Congress: Lawmakers’ Health Care Perks
Little Known Office on Capitol Hill Provides Quality Medical Care for Low Price
By JAY SHAYLOR and MARK ABDELMALEK
Sept. 30, 2009
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/congress-health-care-clinic/story?id=8706655
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October 2nd, 2009 at 1:19 amRE: Soapbox @ 186:
Tried to e-mail the scumbag, but his website won’t accept anybody who doesn’t live in his district.
That said, thank you for always coming up with contact info for the politicians.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:23 am.
Depressed?
… EMERGENCY ROOM!
Tooth Ache?
… EMERGENCY ROOM!
Eye strain?
… EMERGENCY ROOM!
Going deaf?
… EMERGENCY ROOM!
Schizophrenic?
… EMERGENCY ROOM!
Yearly Mammogram?
… EMERGENCY ROOM!
Cataracts?
… EMERGENCY ROOM!
Acne?
… EMERGENCY ROOM!
Bunions?
… EMERGENCY ROOM!
Prostrate Exam?
… EMERGENCY ROOM!
A General Physical?
… EMERGENCY ROOM!
HEART ATTACK?
Sorry, E.R. full.
… Comer back later!
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October 2nd, 2009 at 1:37 amsscncturn64 @ 105
Good luck and hope all goes well in a few hours.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:39 amI reckon Cal Malenky @ 23 is correct.
After all, his single legislative ambition was attempting to get 2010 declared “The Year of the Bible”.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:40 am“We sell dirty magazines to adult conservatives only!”
At least the adult conservatives pay for them, huh?
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:56 amMathazar says:
After all, his single legislative ambition was attempting to get 2010 declared “The Year of the Bible”.
OK, saying we did that… what would happen in 2011? Bible over?
October 2nd, 2009 at 2:00 am“…what would happen in 2011?”
We could have the Year of the Tibetan Book of the Dead.
October 2nd, 2009 at 2:03 amOr the Year of the Quaran.
Or a Year of Selected Quotes of Lao Tzu…
Most private insurance only pays 50% on antidepressants,
October 2nd, 2009 at 2:25 amand refuse payment completely on some.
EugeneDebs says:
God you are stupid Dr Venture. I notice Bush had a war and didnt listen to some of the Generals. Should we give EVERY doctor in America veto power over medical policy or only the conservative ones. The entire concept of logic is just far beyond your meager capabilities isnt it?
Doctors should be given veto power over KWSMORON’s pre-existing condition.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:37 am.
Max Baucus’ Wheel of Health Care Contributions
http://assets.sunlightfoundation.com/images/blog/infographics/finance_committee/baucus_wheel.html
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October 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 amRe: Pete @ 163:
Ai-yai; that’s ugly. Glsd you’re OK.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 am***WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!***
I was _trying_ to post to the Broun thread. How in THE hell did I end up over _here_?????????
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:45 amOK; this is _toooooo_ weird.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:46 amSomething schlepped me over to some other thread when I answered Pete. OK, whatev; I wish Pete all the good luck in his surgery tomorrow, and all blessings for prosperity.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:51 amthis seems to be the repukelican’s solution to everything, “go to the emergency room” and then when they can’t pay, drive up the premiums of those of us who do have health care insurance.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:54 amSince the republican answer to everything is to go to the emergency room, then I guess that means they’re fine with illegals going to the ER too! See? Republicans are so nice and they’re never hypocritical. *rolling eyes*
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:25 amWhere do the GOP find all of these clueless hacks to run for House seats? There apparent point is that in this country we have no uninsured because the ER are required to treat everybody. Well, it doesn’t work that way and they should know it. Waiting lines are long in ER’s, in part because they don’t take people first come, first served. They access the level of emergency and take people in that order. The ER is not staffed to treat people with cronic illnesses. They expect to treat trauma related to accidents and gun shot wounds. Lastly, if people followed this dim bulb’s suggestion it would drive up the cost of health care for everybody, especially at a time when States are cutting Medicade expenses to balance budgets.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:04 amI am glad that the cost of E.R. visits was at least mentioned. Unfunded care, often including emergency room visits as a substitute for regular primary medical care, constitute one of those taxes on the rest of us that Republicans keep saying that they want to lower. In many communities, public hospitals eat the bills for these as those without insurance are dumped from private hospitals. Those private hospitals who also do charity care end up having to raise their charges to customers. The only way I can see to lower it is to provide some kind of insurance for everybody.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:14 amBy the by, people without insurance and with depression do go to emergency rooms, often waiting until they are acutely ill and overwhelmed by their condition. Sometimes they walk in and sometimes it is after their illness has tricked them into doing something dangerous to themselves or others. With a little knowledge and decent insurance, people can get affordable effective help for depression without using the ER.
The quality of our ER care is negatively effected by the overload of uninsured seeking primary care. Many hospitals have started clinics to divert incoming ER patients who are seeking sub-emergent care to keep the trauma resources available.
So, this dim bulb of a senator has just advocated further increasing my cost, since I will pay for unfunded care and advocated further overloading of emergency facilities at some local hospital. May he and Glen Beck get to sit for hours with broken bone while waiting for an ER to get to him!
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:24 amWe used to have a facility called “County Hospital”. That facility was funded by the County with aid from the State and they took those without health insurance. That hospital was closed years ago due to cost and an increasing uninsured population. That was probably about the time Medicade came into existence so treatment converted to the ER at private hospitals with government assistance. This has now broken down as States are cutting Medicade costs to balance budgets. Increased use of a broken system, as this clown proposes, only makes matters worse. The ER is staffer for things like trauma and heart attacks, not cronic illness.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:37 ampoor little crazy legs, too lame to start a blog of his own, so instead comes here to whine about what is posted here
it couldn’t be an attempt to change the subject from yet another right winger showing how little they know, now could it?
I’m just glad that Atlanta is not like the rest of GA.
this doc went to UGA, which is the school for kids that aren’t smart enough to go to Georgia Tech
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:44 ampoor little crazy, still buying into the incorrect talking points told to him by his radio and Fox “news”
it must be sad to be so ignorant
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:46 amUGA is an institute of higher learning that can’t spell or pronounce “DOG”
that’s why it’s way out in Athens
Atlanta has Georgia Tech, but most Georgians aren’t smart enough to get in there
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:47 amFunny thing about national healthcare. If you have it and you have depression, you have this thing called a doctor that you can afford to see and these things called medications that you can afford to buy.
Instead of playing musical ER doctors, each one new to you each time you present to an er, and after several hours of waiting when they find you have no insurance, with national healthcare you can actually see a doctor in their private office and get your depression treated before you have an emergency and need to go to an er in the first place.
There must be something good about national healthcare since every other industrialized nation besides us has it. Crazy is likely a lost cause, but he too will benefit whether he will ever admit it or not.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 amIt’s funny how people like him are worried about government bureaucrats getting involved in denying people healthcare when the only ones doing it are people like him!
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:58 amCrazy Legs says:
“By the by, people without insurance and with depression do go to emergency rooms, often waiting until they are acutely ill and overwhelmed by their condition.”
How will socialized medical care solve this? The wait will be even longer!
Wrong, pal. You really ought to do your homework before you open up and show your ignorance. I have socialized medicine: the VA takes care of my health, and before that, 20 years in the military under a “socialized” system. It was great. One operation alone would have cost me $150,000 and had I been a civilian without insurance it would have bankrupted me. My out of pocket? Zero.
I hope all Americans will one day be lucky enough to have the great care I have.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:59 amBovine,
why are you here and not in the emergency room, getting treatment for your condition?
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 amBroun’s suggestion that a seriously depressed man should simply go to the ER demonstrates how stupid — not merely ignorant, but stupid — he and others like him are being on this issue. As far as I know, there’s really not a lot which an ER physician would have the power to do for a clinically depressed patient apart from perhaps recommending the person for transfer to an inpatient mental facility if there’s reason to believe that he or she is at risk of committing suicide. Unless the hospital to which the ER belongs has a mental ward — and my understanding is that many don’t anymore — they’re unlikely to have stocks of antidepressants on hand. Plus, not all antidepressants are equally effective for all patients — and some, such as MAO inhibitors, have side effects which to say the least can be problematic.
Apart from perhaps amphetamine psychosis or other mental disturbances which are chemically induced and therefore not chronic, the various forms of mental illness are for the most part far too complex for an ER facility to treat effectively and appropriately because psychiatry is nowhere nearly as cut-and-dried as many other fields of medicine. The fact that Broun chose to simply parrot the standard Republican line — i.e.., anyone can get medical care in the emergency room — suggests that he’s not only stupid (because he could educate himself but clearly chooses not to make the effort) but also that he doesn’t give a toss about the concerns of his constituents, which means that he’s reneging on his responsibilities as an elected Congressional representative whose job is to serve the people. Broun might want to watch his step…those who were voted in can always be voted out!
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:10 amThe answer to the health debate is simple. If a public option doesn’t pass then the congress should lose their tax payer funded health care benefits, well, because, you know, it’s socialism! I guarantee you if this scenario was realistic, a public health option would be the ONLY thing on the table.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:39 pmSave America – Mock a Corporatist Rethug Dittohead Daily.
You know who they are.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:17 pmBecause of the high cost of my health care premiums and the oulandish co-pays I have to pay and the numerous claims rejected for health saving procedures, I cannot afford cable! Oh well, guess I’ll head down to the Emergency Room lobby and watch a little telly!
October 2nd, 2009 at 2:03 pmCrazy Legs says:
By the by, people without insurance and with depression do go to emergency rooms, often waiting until they are acutely ill and overwhelmed by their condition.
How will socialized medical care solve this? The wait will be even longer!
No, it won’t. Waiting times in countries that have socialized health care are shorter. That’s because people can get preventive care and therefore don’t have to go to emergency rooms nearly as often.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pmBroun strikes me as the kind of guy who doesn’t take his ethical responsibility as a physician very seriously; maybe he limits his ethical behaviour to clients. For instance, having been bought by the insurance companies, he stays bought; that kind of thing.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:19 pmI couldn’t hear the video really well (stupid computer!!), but Broun didn’t sound like he could relate well to his constituent. Oh well, I guess that’s what happens when your an elected official; you start to get disconnected from your constituents.
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:06 pmbelaccifer lacca says:
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‘Are there no prisons? No Emergency Rooms?’
October 7th, 2009 at 9:21 am-Rep. Ebeneezer Broun
haha loved the allusion to A Christmas Carol.. That pretty much describes the Repuglican Party today; individual responsibility, that’s a joke!
Thank you for your sharing.!
October 7th, 2009 at 5:00 pm