Elliott Abrams: Iranian People Wouldn’t Oppose A Military Attack On Their Country
Elliott Abrams: Iranian People Wouldn’t Oppose A Military Attack On Their Country
This afternoon, Elliott Abrams, Deputy National Security Adviser under President Bush, appeared on Fox News to discuss U.S. policy towards Iran. Abrams pled guilty to misleading Congress about the Iran-Contra scandal under Reagan and handled Iran policy under Bush.
When asked if any recent President has had “a successful strategy with Iran,” Abrams implicitly admitted his own decades-long failure. “No, I don’t think we’ve really had any successful strategies with Iran,” Abrams responded. “And you know, meanwhile they’ve been building up their nuclear program and missile program.” But Obama recently established the first high-level diplomatic engagement with Iran in 30 years, which produced results quicker than expected.
But Abrams, “the neocon’s neocon,” still clings to his long-running desire to bomb Iran. And to justify his view that military action against Iran is the prudent course, Abram told Fox News that the Iranian people would accept it:
FOX: 59 percent of respondents to our Fox News poll say that force should be used. How would Tehran react to that?
ABRAMS: It’s a very big question, Alisyn. My own view is that most Iranians now — after June, after the stealing of the election — would not rally around the flag. People used to say that — that if there’s an attack on Iran, you know the population is going to get patriotic. But that’s what Americans would do. I don’t know that it’s what Iranians are going to do, considering the way that regime is hated in Iran.
Watch it:
Certainly, the Iranian regime does have a great deal of opposition on the ground. But that doesn’t mean they would accept bombs falling on their country. For an Iranian populace that has previously expressed concern that the U.S. is trying to humiliate them, Abrams comments aren’t very reassuring.
A new poll of the Iranian people demonstrates a great potential for the diplomatic engagement that Obama is pursuing. World Public Opinion find that “two-thirds of Iranians would favor their government precluding the development of nuclear weapons in exchange for the lifting of international sanctions against Iran.” 60 percent of the Iranian public favors “full, unconditional negotiations” between their government and the United States.
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The stupid again.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 pmOh My.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pmFer X sake, get me some of the smoke Eliot’s got cookin!
Damn retard, of course they’re going to respond! Just because they hate their government doesn’t mean they won’t react to another nation dropping high explosives on them! Is he for real?!
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 pmThe Iranian people would obviously say, Thank you USA for that bombing, destruction and loss of life, may I have another?
/incredulous snark.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 pmWRONG-O BONG-O
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 pmElliott Abrams: Iranian People Wouldn’t Oppose A Military Attack On Their Country
– - “Iraq” was in that headline seven years ago. How’d that work out?
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:45 pmDo these nut balls think war is some kind of video game? We got Newt suggesting black-ops sabotage in Iran and Kristol talking targeted air strikes in North Korea. Will our nukes be greeted as liberators?
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:46 pmWhat is it with the “death culture” the Republicans are fostering? Bombing other countries, denying health care coverage of people here in the US, killing people you don’t agree with (Dr. Tiller).
How can anyone support this type of mentality?
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:47 pm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ejsM0VF-Os
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October 2nd, 2009 at 3:47 pmHas Abrams ever driven a tank?
Fired a rocket launcher?
Been in combat?
We all know the answers, don’t we.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:47 pmLet’s throw firecrackers at him, see how he responds. On a comparative scale, it’s roughly equal to dropping bombs on a nation.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:48 pmDoes Jewish, Israel supporter, Eliot Abrams have a conflict of interest here since Israel would supposedly benefit from any war with Iran?
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:49 pmIs he saying they would be throwing flowers at us if we invaded? Sure sounds like it.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm“Elliott Abrams: Iranian People Wouldn’t Oppose A Military Attack On Their Country”
Stupid is as stupid does. Must have been smoking too many dutchies. Pass the popcorn please..
Sorry OT. I hope TP post this article. Hat tip to Crooks and Liars:
ABC News explores this conveniently located facility in more detail today. It sounds like a pretty sweet deal for lawmakers.
This fall while members of Congress toil in the U.S. Capitol, working to decide how or even whether to reform the country’s health care system, one floor below them an elaborate Navy medical clinic — described by those who have seen it as something akin to a modern community hospital — will be standing by, on-call and ready to provide Congress with some of the country’s best and most efficient government-run health care.
Formally called the Office of the Attending Physician, the clinic — and at least six satellite offices — bills its mission as one of emergency preparedness and public health. Each day, it stands ready to handle medical emergencies, biological attacks and the occasional fainting tourist visiting Capitol Hill.
Officially, the office acknowledges these types of services, including providing physicals to Capitol police officers and offering flu shots to congressional staffers. But what is rarely discussed outside the halls of Congress is the office’s other role — providing a wealth of primary care medical services to senators, representatives and Supreme Court justices.
Through interviews with former employees and members of Congress, as well as extensive document searches, ABC News has learned new details about the services offered by the Office of Attending Physician to members of Congress over the past few years, from regular visits by a consulting chiropractor to on-site physical therapy.
“A member walked in and was generally walked right back into a physician’s office. They get good care. They are not rushed. They are examined thoroughly,” said Eduardo Balbona, an internist in Jacksonville, Fa., who worked as a staff physician in the OAP from 1993 to 1995.
The Office of the Attending Physician includes at least four Navy doctors as well as at least a dozen medical and X-ray technicians, nurses, and a pharmacist. When a specialist is brought in, members pay no additional costs.
Indeed, lawmakers receive top-notch, wait-free care, and money is largely no object. Members pay a flat annual fee of $503, and it covers all expenses — without submitting claim forms to their insurer. Despite soaring costs throughout the health care system, prices have been largely stagnant in the Office of the Attending Physician for 17 years.
All for $503 bucks a year yet they don’t want affordable government care and public option for Americans????
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:51 pm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SexTSS-N4r4
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October 2nd, 2009 at 3:54 pmIt’s worse than that. Abrams has dual citizenship. USA and Israel.
Here’s a short list of dual citizens USA/Israel that were in the bush administration:
Richard Perle
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:54 pmPaul Wolfowitz
Douglas Feith
Edward Luttwak
Henry Kissinger
Dov Zakheim
Kenneth Adelman
I. Lewis Libby
Robert Satloff
Elliott Abrams
Marc Grossman
Richard Haass
Robert Zoellick
Ari Fleischer
James Schlesinger
David Frum
Joshua Bolten
John Bolton
David Wurmser
Eliot Cohen
Mel Sembler
Michael Chertoff
Steve Goldsmith
Adam Goldman
Joseph Gildenhorn
Christopher Gersten
Mark Weinberger
Samuel Bodman
Bonnie Cohen
Ruth Davis
Daniel Kurtzer
Cliff Sobel
Stuart Bernstein
Nancy Brinker
Frank Lavin
Ron Weiser
Mel Sembler
Martin Silverstein
Lincoln Bloomfield
Jay Lefkowitz
Ken Melman
Brad Blakeman
The Republican Party is trying to support the Iranian regime by creating the threat that Ahmadinejad needs to stay in power. C’mon Republican, you know how this works; if it weren’t for the ter’rists, Bush never could have won a second term. Ahmadinejad needs the scary Amer’cin bombs to scare his people with in the same way. Orwell explained all this decades ago.
I just find it interesting that these guys are so pro-Ahmadinejad and are working so hard to support his political base.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:56 pmThis is a left over convict from the first George Bush invasion of the CIA, isn’t he?
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:57 pmElliott Abrams: Iranian People Wouldn’t Oppose A Military Attack On Their Country
Yeah , and a nuclear fireworks show for their evening entertainment ………What a moron
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:57 pmSP…
… Hat tip ME :)
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/01/broun-emergency-room/#comment-5828939
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October 2nd, 2009 at 3:58 pmConvicted criminals are now regulars on FOX news Theatre
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:58 pmMurdooooooch! You bastard.
You murdered the MSM.
You murdered the MSM. You bastard!
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:00 pmRUCerious says:
Has Abrams ever driven a tank?
– - Well, there is an M1 Abrams Tank. Heh.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:01 pmWhat people should say to Eliot Abrams:
“Shut up, convict!”
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:02 pmWhy are these fking Republicans so fning stupid?
It would unit them against us for many, many years.
It seems that the “Reasoning and Logic Genes” have been totally breed out of them.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:02 pmFAUX has crossed the line between stupid and evil. Anyone who actually knows anything about the region and gives a shit about the U.S. military personnel would reach the conclusion that military action against Iran would, most likely, result in the immediate rise of every single Persian against our forces already there. It would take a miracle to extract more than a small percentage of those troops. It would be our Stalingrad and could, conceivably, eliminate us as a viable world power.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:03 pmH/T to badmoodman for getting my sly inference…
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm“Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president?”
9/6-9/01 approve 55 disapprove 41
9/13/01 approve 86 disapprove 12
Iran doesn’t take polls but you can bet that the mullah’s would enjoy a similar bump if Iran were attacked.
jackass.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:07 pmI’m not terribly reassured by the opinion of the death cult known as “FAUX viewers” either.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:08 pmOops… forgot to post that those are ABC’s polling numbers…
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:08 pmhttp://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob1.htm
Max Anax junius -1 says:
SP…
… Hat tip ME :)
Thanks for letting me know that you posted it. That news should not be buried at all. Hat tip to Max Anx junius. :)
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:09 pmHow could anyone be involved in formulating the IraQ war and insist that we repeat the exact same mistakes in IraN ?
The populace will throw flowers at us.
We won’t rape your daughters.
You won’t suffer from a lack of basic infrastructure including electricity and water.
etc.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:11 pm.
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Would those bombs be labeled “Liberator”?
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:11 pmTypical neocon. All for dropping bombs but no thought on the end game.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm.
THERE’S A KILLING TO BE MADE AT MAKING WAR!
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October 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 pmFred,
Congradulations. You just named a list of consevative Jews without ONE piece of evidence that they hold actual “dual citizenship”.
A neo-con is a neo-con, a war-monger is a war-monger. There are plenty Christian neocons who are just as blindly supportive of Israel. Don’t spin this as Jews run amok.
That said,
Abrams is a damn moron. Iraqis despised Saddam…and, contrary to what the neocons believed, they were none too fond of us, either. These people live in a fantasy world.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:16 pmTop Things you Think You Know about Iran that are not True
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:16 pmAlright, to be fair…Bolton’s a Lutheran.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pmAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! TEH STOOOOOOPID!!!! IT BURRRRRRRRRNNNNNSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:20 pmPeople used to say that — that if there’s an attack on Iran, you know the population is going to get patriotic. But that’s what Americans would do. I don’t know that it’s what Iranians are going to do,
Yeah, yeah…isn’t that what the cons said about Iraq? “We will be greeted with sweets and flowers” (Dumsfeld). They must think the American people are stupid………..oh, wait…..
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:20 pmStop me if you’ve heard this one:
“We’ll be greeted as liberators!”
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:21 pmlivelongandprosper,
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:26 pmJuan Cole is on his game. Always has been.
Thanks for the link.
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Dear Elliot,
Have the Iraqis run out of roses?
They only throw shoes. Do they not like roses?
I suppose the Iranians like roses though, YES?
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October 2nd, 2009 at 4:28 pmElliot Abrams is a Class A Idiot. He should NOT have been let anywhere near ANY government office after the Iran-Contra stupidity.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:40 pmSuggest every idiot like Idiot Abrams be in the first wave of ground soldiers to invade and secure Iran. These clowns are wonderful at “Let’s have you go die for something I believe in.” If they, their children or grandchildren were likely to die fulfilling their marvelous call to action would they be a bit more contemplative in voicing their desires for war?
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:41 pmSWBob says:
These clowns are wonderful at “Let’s have you go die for something I believe in.”
What’s worse, is they don’t actually believe in anything, unless it’s perhaps harvesting more bloody corpses to build a monument to Cthulhu or something.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:44 pmI suppose it’s too much effort for FOX to run questions like this past, well, Iranians, right? Maybe someone like Hooman Majd, who actually understands the life and culture of Iran and has written beautifully about it. I can imagine what his reaction would be to a moronic statement suggesting that they’re not really patriotic, and that they hate their president so much they’d welcome an attack.
It’s much easier to ask someone like Abrams, who knows nothing about the country and is a rabid Zionist, for an opinion on the subject. Why not ask one of our trolls; the response would be no more stupid than Abrams’.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:50 pmMax Anax junius -1 says:
livelongandprosper,
Juan Cole is on his game. Always has been.
Thanks for the link.
Thanks Max. I found the link over at the Zoo.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:52 pmgummble-bee-itch says:
I suppose it’s too much effort for FOX to run questions like this past, well, Iranians, right?
They don’t run questions by Americans, never mind anyone else.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:53 pmElBruce says:
SWBob says:
These clowns are wonderful at “Let’s have you go die for something I believe in.”
What’s worse, is they don’t actually believe in anything, unless it’s perhaps harvesting more bloody corpses to build a monument to Cthulhu or something.
I agree, but it seems the neo-cons are in love with the military industrial complex and the idea that subjecting a population to death and destruction will make them agree with your view of the world and then be your friends forever.
Why do they now have amnesia about the wonderful aftermath of the bush/cheney/rumsfeld “shock and awe” in Iraq which was predicted to bring the middle east countries crawling to bush/cheney/remsfeld asking to be pals for life?
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:54 pm50+ troll-free posts in an Iran thread? What’s going on here?
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:55 pmyeah and i’m sure they’d welcome waterboarding too, right?
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:56 pmanything to accommodate that silly americans!
#43 — thinking the same thing — we’ll be greeted as liberators. What, is Elliot Abrams’ dick really that small?
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:02 pmI’m sure it’s been said, but not only wouldn’t they mind an attack, they’d probably like it, and definetly would greet us as Liberators.
Hmm, where have I heard this before?
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:02 pmThis is just another ridiculous statement by a neocon who is seething with anger that Obama is accomplishing what Bush could not in foreign policy. Obama has pulled the rug out from under Iran and now the rest of the nations are lining up against Iran. An attack on Iran would have the reverse effect. Obama will be always be criticized on foreign policy by the neocons because they do not believe in diplomacy as a means to an end.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:04 pmI guess we didn’t get enough of being pelted with flowers and chocolates in Iraq?
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:08 pmThis guy is insane. He would be committed if he a)came close to a weapon and b)threatened to do unto someone in his own town what he threatens to do to the Iranians.
And just what benefit is a war with Iran to the Isrealis. They are surely to become a target of either accidental or intentioned attack. Possibly this guy is a thinly disguised Arammageddonist who thinks that a major war in the Biblical Middle East will bring some kind of messianic salvation. Speak of dangerous ideas.
As for the nationalistic fervor of Iranians and Persians in general, just about the only thing that could unite them at this point is an attack from the West in general or the US in particular. This guy is either intentionally weaving falsehoods or is totally out of touch with reality. Either way it calls into question the sanity and intention of anyone giving him more than thirty seconds of air time.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:10 pmIt’s a happy, uncomplicated world the American Exceptionalists live in, isn’t it? Other nation’s people welcome our bombs falling on them, countries we invade volunteer their oil income to pay for our occupation, and the town drunk puts himself in jail when he’s on a bender.
I wish I lived in Elliot Abrams’ world!
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:17 pmelliot abrams does have dual citizenship as do the others. The fact that I did not source it does not make it a false statement.
To imply that Israel is not influencing politics in America is irresponsible in my opinion.
I did not once mention the word Jew. You did. I said dual citizenship usa/israel. Don’t put words in my mouth.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:17 pmSP,
Thanks. It isn’t that I want credit, per say, it’s just that many times I’m not here during the daytime and get in late nights and post away on may threads. I find a lot and share, much get’s missed by most. I’m glad C&L ran with the ABC story because this is the true story not getting out.
$503 per year… UNLIMITED ACCESS to SPECIALISTS! NO WAITING! NO DENIALS! NO REPARTITIONING FOR COVERAGE! NO QUESTIONS ASKED!
In Seattle, we have something similar…
… QLiance
The only problem is…
… Specialists cost EXTRA.
… Dentists aren’t covered.
… Vision is NOT covered.
… They charge by AGE!
In my age range, for Level 2(as close to Gold Congress Care as it comes) I would be charged $99/mo. Or $1188/ Yr. Then add dental and vision…
… Sure it cuts the profit beast(Insurance Co) off at the head and rewards the doctor for his/her work, but the cost is still somewhat difficult for some people. Especially the people who need dental and vision along with general care.
Why do Federal Employees get Gold Standard Treatment for less when their bosses(The People) get sh!t?
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October 2nd, 2009 at 5:18 pmHe just says that because he and the rest of the Republicans hope we’re attacked! ;)
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:18 pmIran Agreed to let the international inspectors Inspect this new facility. America got what it wanted thru Diplomacy.
Our CIA overthrew Iran’s Democratically elected Goverment…Installed a Brutal Dictatorship under the Shah…and Supported their Arch Rival Saddam Hussein in a Murderous 8 year war which saw the first use of chemical weapons since World War I. Millions Died.
If the shoe were on the other foot, would WE be Mistrustfull?
Yet Obama has managed to get Iran to Talk.
These neocons have had their chance to Do things their way…the record is clear….disaster !
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:19 pmDoh,
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:22 pmI responded (#62) on the wrong thread…
… blush :/
Oh, I guess I didn’t respond on the wrong thread.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:24 pmOh…
… I’m a bit dizzy today. Sorry :/
If Abrams had been indicted rather than allowed to plead out and if he had never been pardoned for Iran-Contra, would we be hearing from him now?
Hmmm…G. Gordon Liddy served a 4 year prison term, still hasn’t been pardoned and won’t keep his mouth shut…
Never mind, I answered my own question
/snark.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:24 pmAbrams on the stuff that Dubya missed his flight physical for?
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:27 pmWe’ve made this mistake once already.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:28 pmElliot Abrams has just shown us how really stupid he is. When America was attacked on 9/11, all Americans came together regardless of how they felt about Bush and Cheney. The same thing would happen in Iran. People don’t want other countries to invade or bomb them and stupid Abrams can’t even understand that simple fact. What a jerk. Then again, this bs is brought to us by the favorite station of Stupidstan, Fox News. Consider the source.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:32 pmAbrams pled guilty to misleading Congress about the Iran-Contra scandal under Reagan
Gee, let’s put a convicted liar on tv and have him propose that the Iranians want us to drop bombs on them….
This is why I no longer watch the tv for so-called ‘news’ or ‘commentary’.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:47 pmDear Backedup,
And the Iraqis were tired and fearful of Saddam, too.
I suppose that’s why they were recruited as insurgents against Americans so easily, YES?
Bomb a people and their government, no matter how well liked it is, or not, they coalesce into a single soul that screams, “STOP KILLING MY FAMILY.”
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October 2nd, 2009 at 5:51 pmOrganized Religion freaks are harming society, well well… Who would have guessed that a cult franchise could corrupt people?
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:58 pmThese Bushies operate in inner circles. circles within circles. Bypassing and circumventing democracy with old fashioned corruption and fraud.
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:01 pmFred @ 16-
I notice that about half of these neo-conservative warmongering chickenhawks were signers of PNACs original “statement of principles” along with such military luminaries as Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Bloody Bill Kristol and Jeb Bush. If I’m not mistaken the illustrious Mr. Abrams was first on the list of signers. PNACs new incarnation, FPI is now trying the same letter writing coaxing with President Obama that they tried on Clinton. Their aim is to goad the President into a seriously more hawkish approach in the ME. FPI’s letter to Obama also includes signatures from geniuses like Sarah Palin and Karl Rove
What a miserable group of war loving, brown people hating losers who have been collectively WRONG at everything they have ever touched. I say round up the lot of ‘em and airdrop them over Tehran sans parachutes.
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:08 pmThis moron speaks for the Iranian people? Yeah,right. Just like Boehner speaks for the American people.
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:13 pmE. Abrams should be dancing with the criminals. Why not ask Charlie Manson what he thinks the Iranian people think? What’s with the GOP and the Media giving such credence to criminals?
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:20 pmOne can never expect reality based arguments from neocons.
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:24 pmAm I the only one who thinks this argument sounds disturbingly familiar?
As in, a variation on the same theme which members of the Bush administration used to promote the War In Iraq? “The Iraqi people will welcome our troops with flowers”, or something along those lines…
If memory serves, that argument didn’t quite prove itself true, in part because one flaw which neoconservatives share is their complete and utter refusal to consider (never mind accept) the possibility that the world might not choose to march in perfectly synchronized lockstep with their wishes and schemes. It often seems as if they almost never make contingency plans — has anyone else noticed this? — because it quite honestly never occurs to them that their plans might not work and that they might not get (or even deserve to get) exactly what they want.
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:06 pmHey, if the wingnuts are so a-skeered of the Czar Obama Nazi Communist takeover of the U.S, maybe they’d welcome being invaded by Iran. Right?
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chiroptera toasterhead says:
50+ troll-free posts in an Iran thread? What’s going on here?
Iran’s election protests made it harder for the wingnuts to advocate slaughtering their populace just for fun. Mind you, Iranians are still Muslims, and therefore all of them are terrorists, but they have lots of people who like democracy, so all the wingnut’s brains broke. Now they’re wandering around changing “does not compute, does not compute…”
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:20 pmIran’s economy is a mess. The government will fall from its own inept actions are some point.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/10/world/middleeast/10iran.html?_r=1
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:35 pmBluestocking says:
As in, a variation on the same theme which members of the Bush administration used to promote the War In Iraq? “The Iraqi people will welcome our troops with flowers”, or something along those lines…
If memory serves, that argument didn’t quite prove itself true…
Bush mishandled Iraq when he appointed the idiot Bremer who would not allow Baathists in the provisional government. Most of the resistance would have not occurred if the US incorporated the Baathists. This was a fatal mistake and caused us to occupy the country far longer than it should been.
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:40 pmMr.Duke says:
Thats probably true. The people of Iran arent going to put up with the clerics mismanagement and corruption much longer.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:06 pmWhat’s that sound? deja vu, all over again!
“they’ll greet us as LIBERATORS! Yeah, that’s the ticket!”
Hey asshhole, send YOUR KIDS FIRST.
Or better yet, you go. Wanna try a Dr. Strangelove bomb- ride? We could fill it with all your other neocon trash and just, oops! missed- too bad we let ‘er go a few hundred miles short over the ocean somewhere.
Can’t anyone hack into the plumbing in these shitheads’ neighborhoods and inject some contraceptives into their water supply? if we screwed up and got some real decent people, it’d still be worth it in the end.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:49 pmMr.Duke says:
Iran’s economy is a mess. The government will fall from its own inept actions are some point.
Can’t disagree with either of those statements. If you’re trying to make us mad, you’ll have to try harder than that.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:47 pmHey, wingnuts in America hate and fear the U.S. Government and its current leadership. Does that mean they’d welcome the U.S. being invaded?
October 3rd, 2009 at 2:58 amAs I read this it occurred to me that either Mr. Abrams didn’t think back far enough or is deliberately misleading. You see the Reagan administration collaborated with the new revolutionary Iranian regime to release the embassy hostages to make Carter the villain and his reelection more difficult and Reagan as the hero and then the new president with a landslide victory. He wasn’t really collaborating with them for mutual positive results because both sides wanted a polar enemy for their own reasons. That policy may only now be getting its first challenge with the Obama administrations cautious attempt at diplomacy and the Iranian shaky election results in the eyes of the world making them possibly more open. Imagine that, the far right has actually been acting in a way, as an unsuspecting pawn, for Iran who they vilify. They have given the mullahs their “Great Satan” for almost 30 years. No guess where it’s going. We just have to keep watching.
October 3rd, 2009 at 4:18 amThey’ll give us flowers, right?
/s
October 3rd, 2009 at 4:33 amElBruce says:
Hey, wingnuts in America hate and fear the U.S. Government and its current leadership. Does that mean they’d welcome the U.S. being invaded?
They welcomed the loss of the Olympic bid in 2016 with a cheer and got what they wanted to hear while hoping the country fails so I’ll wager $1000.00 they’ll welcome an enemy attack on US soil.
Call or raise.
October 3rd, 2009 at 4:38 amSML says:
Imagine that, the far right has actually been acting in a way, as an unsuspecting pawn, for Iran who they vilify. They have given the mullahs their “Great Satan” for almost 30 years.
It’s not that hard to imagine. What Bin Laden did for Bush, our neocon wingnuts do for Ahmajinedad: scare the bejeezus out of the population so they’ll vote for “tough on defense” right-wingers and allow them to expand their powers unchecked.
October 3rd, 2009 at 8:38 amThese ultra right wing “Israeli” extremists are the most blood thirsty pieces of crap on Earth. They just aren’t happy unless they’re torturing and killing thousands of defenseless Muslim men, women, and children every day.
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:30 amEliot Abrams the architect of Death Squad training in Hondouras under Reagan; the architect of Bush 2’s middle east policy. A scoundrel period.
October 3rd, 2009 at 11:51 amElBruce says:
What Bin Laden did for Bush, our neocon wingnuts do for Ahmajinedad: scare the bejeezus out of the population so they’ll vote for “tough on defense” right-wingers and allow them to expand their powers unchecked.
I’d like clarify: not that anybody actually voted for the guy last time around, but still…
October 3rd, 2009 at 5:55 pmI read a news article last week which quoted Iranian dissidents saying that they did not want sanctions to be applied to Iran because they feared a backlash against against protestors.This genius wants us to believe that Iranians would not circle the wagons against us?
October 3rd, 2009 at 7:37 pmYou mean that patriotic Iranians would be like patriotic Iraqis and patriotic Afghans and try to kill the myrmidons of a vicious foreign invader and oppressor? Wow!
October 4th, 2009 at 6:42 amThank you for your sharing.!
October 7th, 2009 at 3:38 pmpeople would when they are under attack. Who the hell does this idiot think he’s talking to? karin germe ameliyati
October 9th, 2009 at 9:23 am