Kristol Compares Obama’s Olympics Pitch To ‘George W. Bush-Like’ Bullying
Kristol Compares Obama’s Olympics Pitch To ‘George W. Bush-Like’ Bullying
Conservatives have been bashing President Obama for the past week over his decision to personally go to Copenhagen to boost America’s pitch for the 2016 Olympics. When the International Olympics Committee eliminated Chicago in the first round, those same conservatives were euphoric. Today on Fox News Sunday, Bill Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard — whose headquarters erupted in “cheers” when America lost — said that Obama’s decision to go to Copenhagen was an example of George W. Bush-like bullying:
KRISTOL: Our economy doesn’t need the boost of the Olympics. And then an American president in sort of a George W. Bush-like way goes and tries to bully the International Olympic Committee. [...]
Come walk with us. I’m here for America. Can you imagine if some Republican — if Bush had done this and we hadn’t gotten it? Typical Bush heavy-handedness, cowboy unilateralist, hegemonic imperialist action. Obama falls into that trap and they went for it. I must say you couldn’t help be amused by it.
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First of all, Kristol was a big fan of the Bush administration’s policies, so it’s not clear why he wouldn’t like Obama going to Copenhagen. But more importantly, Obama’s trip was not a “hegemonic imperialist action.” Brazil, Spain, and Japan — the other three 2016 finalists — all sent their country’s leaders to Copenhagen, as MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow pointed out on NBC’s Meet the Press today. Conservative New York Times columnist David Brooks said that he was proud Obama had “put his country ahead of his own personal prestige”:
MADDOW: In 2012, London got the Olympics after Blair tried for them. In 2014, Russia got them after Putin tried for them, and in 2016, all four finalists sent their head of government or head of state to make the argument. Obama did nothing unreasonable, and it would have been a shock if Chicago won. For them to be cheering America’s loss here on the right, I think is sort of disgusting. [...]
BROOKS: Nonetheless, I have to say, I’m with Obama on this. He took a risk, he comes away somewhat humiliated, but he took a risk for his town, he took a risk for his country, he put his country ahead of his own personal prestige, and he lost one. I actually don’t mind it. I think he was all right on this.
E.J. Dionne added that Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) presidential slogan was “Country First,” but “in this case, it was Obama-hatred first on the right, not the country.” Watch it:
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Bill Kristol talking about someone being a bully…O’ the irony.
October 4th, 2009 at 1:39 pmKristol Compares Obama’s Olympics Pitch To ‘George W. Bush-Like’ Bullying
– - Yep, the USOC blew it. They should have had Beck & Boehner go to Denmark and bawl their eyes out to try and get us the Games.
October 4th, 2009 at 1:40 pmWhere was Kristol when Bush pushed the Chicago Olympics?
http://theworldofhowey.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/the-unamericans/
October 4th, 2009 at 1:42 pmOur economy doesn’t need the boost of the Olympics.
Really?
Maybe only rich guys like Kristol don’t need a boosted economy but the millions out of work might have a different take.
October 4th, 2009 at 1:44 pmI always wish I could wipe the smirk off that smarmy little Billy Kristol’s face whenever he opens his pie-hole. I guess he prefers to see a sitting president like GDumbya go to Beijing, *ss-grab a couple volleyball players, stumble drunk down the stadium stairs and be seen on TV internationally with his alcoholic red nose lit up for everyone to see.
Yup. That’s preferable to seeing a President Obama do everything in his power to sell the Olympic Committee on awarding the 2012 event to Chicago.
October 4th, 2009 at 1:48 pmLittle Billy Kristol; still in need of a brain transplant. Don’t we have a troll out here somewhere who will sacrifice some other troll’s brain for Billy. Please call our hot line at 1-800-EAT-SHIT and pledge now.
Oh, sorry. Bill’s still just distraught and floundering because his dad died. He has no one to turn to now for instruction on tying his shoes and saying the neo-con thing in front of the trolls. I’d give my condolences to Bill, but I really should have sent condolences to Irving years ago because of his burden, young Billy.
October 4th, 2009 at 1:51 pmoh! sorry, rachel… i forgot!
MTP on again, now, on MSNBC…
i only watch when rachel is on… so, that’s twice now…
October 4th, 2009 at 2:00 pmRooting against one’s own Country seems to in vouge now for the Wingnuts. Rachel is right. Chicago’s bid was a long shot but to watch Kristol, Limbaugh, Beck and Malkin root against it was disgusting.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:04 pmThe wingers have blurred the line between politics and Country and don’t give a shit if it hurts the Country in the long run.
Krystol says:
KRISTOL: Our economy doesn’t need the boost of the Olympics. And then an American president in sort of a George W. Bush-like way goes and tries to bully the International Olympic Committee. [...]
Translation:
Krystol says:
October 4th, 2009 at 2:06 pmWe don’t need no stinkin ni99er-lympics and we don’t need a stinking ni99er to fix the economy. That’s a white man’s job.”
How Dare the President Bid for the Olympics!
Obama’s prestige would have been damaged only if he had NOT made that bid.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:09 pmExcuse me guys but f@ck Billy Kristol, the guy is a joke.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:09 pmPerhaps the IOC remembered all the scandals when the Mormon-run Salt Lake City Olympics devolved in scandal in 2002? And wasn’t Romney heavily involved in that Olympics? Based on that debacle, perhaps the IOC didn’t want to return to the US anytime soon. That the right would boo Obama’s efforts to overcome their Olympian ineptitude seven years ago is ridiculous.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:12 pmPennsylvaniannie says,
The Mittster was the head of the Salt Lake organizing committee. And there were alot of problems that developed during the buildup to the Games in 2002. The other issue that the IOC members have with the US is our onerous Visa policy. It mitigates against forigners visiting the US. Fingerprinting, Photographing and requeiring visitors to register on the HSA database really isn’t a nice way ti treat visitors.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:19 pmZooey says:
How Dare the President Bid for the Olympics!
Obama’s prestige would have been damaged only if he had NOT made that bid.
I’m saving that letter to use against the trolls. Nice one. :)
October 4th, 2009 at 2:23 pmZooey says,
IOKIYAR
October 4th, 2009 at 2:27 pm…it does NOT matter what President Obama does…he cannot, in the eyes of haters, birthers, deathers, tenthers, racists, white-supremacists, etc. do anything correct.
These Rushpubic FREAKS will always talk out their asses, with hate, hate, hate…The Party of No can’t talk anything but negativity and hate. They are not credible and have no solutions…so their solution is to run America and it’s citizens down, hate and say NO. Period.
If they weren’t virtual domestic terrorists, stirring the pot of radical extremists in America, they should be ignored.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:30 pmObami is nothing like George W. Bush!!! Kristole is pwaying into the hands of the libs!!! I prefer the invisible hand of the fwee mawket!!!!!
October 4th, 2009 at 2:30 pmAmewica doesn’t deserve to be important right now. America deserves to be punished for voting this chicawgo style powitishan into owfice. America will need to work for its greatness again – vote GOP!
October 4th, 2009 at 2:32 pmDid I miss something. How did Obama try to “bully” the IOC?
October 4th, 2009 at 2:36 pmWe’re the arbiters as to whether America is great or not. We hold the keys. America needs to be either a 100% GOP agenda or credit needs to be routed to us for every good deed and every major agenda item achieved. If it looks like other side is going to use its intellectual and political capital to snuff us out, we will take it out on Amewica.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:37 pmGo China!!
Go Spain!!
Go Brazil!!
Go America (circa 2012)!!
October 4th, 2009 at 2:39 pm“Our economy doesn’t need the boost of the Olympics.”
How easy to say utter something ignorant like that when you have job security.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:42 pmKeep it up Republicans. Your Base will Love the Obama Bashing…and the rest of the country will
REMEMBER who cheered when America Lost out.
“KRISTOL: Our economy doesn’t need the boost of the Olympics.”
priceless
October 4th, 2009 at 2:46 pmJust finnished watching the replay of MTP minutes ago.
They also talked about Sarah’s new book. I am sooo looking
forward to David Brooks eating his hat and cup.
He still claims America is center-right.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:46 pmAnd what “trap” is Kristol talking about? Is his idea of a trap that the right would politicize President Obamas trip to Denmark and then celebrate Americas defeat while making complete and utter fools out of themselves? If so then yeah mission accomplished
October 4th, 2009 at 2:48 pm“E.J. Dionne added that Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) presidential slogan was “Country First,” but “in this case, it was Obama-hatred first on the right, not the country.” Watch it:”
There’s a word for that sort of behavior,goppioni (GOP Partisan Interest Over National Interest).
October 4th, 2009 at 2:48 pmOT, does anyone know where I can download “Dance With Me” by The Mojo Men? Can’t find it on iTunes. Thanks.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:58 pmKRISTOL: Our economy doesn’t need the boost of the Olympics.
That’s an amazing statement right there. The fundamentals of our economy are strong, maybe? Even McCain had to walk that one back. I can’t believe Kristol’s still saying such a thing.
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KRISTOL: Can you imagine if some Republican — if Bush had done this and we hadn’t gotten it? Typical Bush heavy-handedness, cowboy unilateralist, hegemonic imperialist action.
Not unless he publically and literally threatened the IOC with military force… which I wouldn’t put past him. If this had been Bush stumping for Dallas (for example), we wouldn’t be cheering if the IOC picked somewhere else. It’s not “bullying” for a world leader to give a presentation to the IOC. Lots of them do it all the time.
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BROOKS: Nonetheless, I have to say, I’m with Obama on this. He took a risk, he comes away somewhat humiliated
No, he didn’t. There’s nothing unusual about a world leader giving a presentation to the IOC and a different country getting the games. It’s not “humiliating” at all.
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One Thousand Billion says:
How easy to say utter something ignorant like that when you have job security.
Kristol’s job security is the greatest mystery of all.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:59 pm“KRISTOL: Our economy doesn’t need the boost of the Olympics.”
Where were your complaints when Bush failed on his Olympic bid for Chicago?
Did you cheer then?
October 4th, 2009 at 3:01 pmRace Bannon says:
OT, does anyone know where I can download “Dance With Me” by The Mojo Men? Can’t find it on iTunes. Thanks.
Google is your friend.
October 4th, 2009 at 3:03 pmI hope people remember in the next election cycle that Republicans truly don’t like Americans!
October 4th, 2009 at 3:09 pmEnough already!
Bill Kristol was never news worthy. He is totally irrelevant now; so why is anyone carrying his off the mark comments?
It isn’t so much that this analysis is off the mark so much as the fact that he has been so off the mark for years.
October 4th, 2009 at 3:10 pmAmerica is not center-left. The GOP is still hanging on. We are still a center-peenis nation.
October 4th, 2009 at 3:17 pmKristol has been wrong about everything, yet he still gets a forum.
October 4th, 2009 at 3:19 pmWho is he sucking off for the privilege of being on teevee?
These morons will say just anything, even — or perhaps especially — if it is completely at odds with reality, the evidence of our senses, and our experience. Why does anyone keep publishing them?
October 4th, 2009 at 3:24 pmSoapBox says:
…it does NOT matter what President Obama does…he cannot, in the eyes of haters, birthers, deathers, tenthers, racists, white-supremacists, etc. do anything correct.
Agreed. No matter what Obama does, these people are going to oppose him. It is time for the MSM to call these people out for what they are–racist and unpatriotic. The MSM needs to keep pounding out the message. I hope that the American people rebuke the Republicans in 2010 for embracing these radicals.
October 4th, 2009 at 3:31 pmKRISTOL: Our economy doesn’t need the boost of the Olympics. And then an American president in sort of a George W. Bush-like way goes and tries to bully the International Olympic Committee…Can you imagine if some Republican — if Bush had done this and we hadn’t gotten it? Typical Bush heavy-handedness, cowboy unilateralist, hegemonic imperialist action.
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I swear…if William Kristol were Pinocchio, his nose would probably be touching the surface of the moon by now! And what I want to know is…why does hardly anyone in the media have the courage to confront him face-to-face with his own lies?
For starters, if my understanding is correct, wasn’t the “Chicago 2016″ bid originally initiated in June 2008 by then-President George W. Bush? If so, by conveniently neglecting to mention this pertinent fact, Kristol is lying by omission merely so that he can have another excuse for vilifying Obama.
Secondly, I find it hard to believe that Kristol does not know what the word “imperialistic” means…so his use of it here is not only inappropriate but disingenuous, since he probably chose to use it solely because it’s so emotionally loaded. In what way could any rational person even remotely consider Obama’s trip to Copenhagen “imperialistic?” It’s not as if he’d tried to override or seize control of the Olympic Committee, or had somehow coerced them into awarding all future Olympic games to the United States — something like that would classify as “imperialistic” and “heavy-handed”, but neither Bush nor Obama was trying to do that. That’s nothing but a classic case of Freudian projection and an attempt to deflect attention on Kristol’s part, because much of the foreign policy under the Bush administration had an imperialistic tone — one which came back to bite them in the backside.
“Our economy doesn’t need the stimulus of the Olympics?” We all know that he probably doesn’t…but when the official statistics on unemployment are at a 26-year high and there are an estimated six unemployed for every one current job opening, I think it’s safe to say that the jobs which would inevitably have been created had the decision gone in our favor would definitely have been an asset. And while we’re at it, let’s remember that the “official” unemployment statistics only reflect those people who are currently collecting benefits from the government. They don’t include the underemployed or the unemployed who are ineligible for benefits (either because they’ve exceeded the time limit or did not qualify to receive benefits).
October 4th, 2009 at 3:32 pmElBruce says:
No, he didn’t. There’s nothing unusual about a world leader giving a presentation to the IOC and a different country getting the games. It’s not “humiliating” at all.
exactly…
were the leaders of spain and japan also “humiliated”?
i wonder…
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just watched MTP… how did rachel keep from popping that mike murphy in the nose? especially when he equated ALL cable “news” as he did…
the difference is simple, and should be noted frequently:
October 4th, 2009 at 3:32 pmL I E S . … fox=LIES.
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I looked up Swine Flu and there was a picture of useless phucktard a$$h0le d|ck sucking idiot goddamned never-been-right-about-anything Bill “The Bloody” Kristol on the page.
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I’m tired of all you republican men pwned ruled by Rachel Maddow. If she hadn’t spent so much time in school the republican men of the house wouldn’t have this problem.
October 4th, 2009 at 3:41 pmBloody Bill is slimy in word and appearance. His oily appearance has always led me to conclude that he could run his car by wringing out his shirts. (Sorry if anyone is eating.)
But? I almost feel sorry for Brooks. He looks like a guy who wants to say the GOP is a bunch of crazed freaks but he just doesn’t have the balls. Which is why I don’t really feel sorry for him. He’s the type who could have mitigated, if not stopped, the insane plunge into extremism.
October 4th, 2009 at 3:45 pmkwsventures says:
Whatever Obama said to the IOC voters, it wasn’t good enough to get the Olympics to Chicago in 2016. Admit he couldn’t sway the voters and move on. The sun rose the next day. Next issue, please.
What the leaders of other countries said wasn’t good enough either, yet we choose to vilify the leader of America like the sun won’t rise tomorrow.
I thought our party had the most stringent reluctance to put America down.
Where for all these years we made a campaign point perceiving the left to be ant-American, we do it outright and confidently push on as if we didn’t violate our own tenets.
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kwsventures either owns this company or is dragging it’s name into the ground for no reason:
KWS Ventures
October 4th, 2009 at 3:48 pm5247 Mare Creek Dr
Crestview, FL 32539-8887(Fort Walton Beach, FL Metro Area)
Phone: (850) 423-0606
The Olympic pitch isn’t an issue you silly tit of a stupid troll. No one would have realized it happened if a bunch of Reichwing screeching heads didn’t explode all over the air waves and blogosphere. And it would have died with the vote if the same screeching heads didn’t celebrate like a toddler who gets the biggest piece of cake.
October 4th, 2009 at 3:50 pmWhat is almost as distressing to me is Frank Rich’s cheap shot equating the president to a lobbyist for making a case for the Olympic games. And, he used the media’s and right wing’s phrase, “stunning failure.” The “progressive” left does not begin to approach the destructive behavior of the right, but it does take its own depressingly knee-jerk approach to criticism. I don’t want a bunch of cheerleaders on the Democratic side, but I would appreciate a little less of the “oh, they’re all the same” attitude or, even worse, the regurgitation of talking points that start with Drudge.
October 4th, 2009 at 3:51 pmI think the republican/conservatives made an excellent move when they cheered after America lost the 2016 Olympics bid, and I will not argue against them——-BUT—————————————-
I’m going to enjoy how Americans in general reject their @$$e$ en masse. The trending down has already begun with lower poll numbers almost every month since January 20th. I’m stocking up on popcorn and soda-pop.
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America
October 4th, 2009 at 3:52 pmThis whole stupid issue has served as well as anything to show that the Reichwhiners want our country to fail under Democratic leadership. Heck! no matter what success and good fortune we have the stupid clods will still call it a failure.
October 4th, 2009 at 3:53 pmOops, meant to say that America is paying attention. It’s to the GOP’s detriment that they pushed the “anti-American” theme as hard as they did only to reveal their true colors as partisans who put their country last.
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(F uck) America
Try to use that against me in 2012, I’ll cross my arms, look up and tell you prove the obvious, and once your quickly provide such proof, I’ll ask you to provide proof of the proof, and once you do that, I’ll demand you have it notarized, and once you do that, I’ll send it to Judge Alito and he’ll promptly strike it down.
October 4th, 2009 at 3:57 pmkwsventures says:
Rachel Maddow
Don’t ask. Don’t tell.
You don’t have to say anything, partner, she knows you’re dumber than a bag of rocks.
October 4th, 2009 at 3:58 pm99.9% of those in the media and politics will say anything to say in business, make money, stay in power. Stay relevant. Understand this and take it as seriously as the pro wrestling.
Pro-wrestling is a beacon of conservatism and the free market. No unions, no job security, being worked to death (all too often, literally).
If you insult that business again I’m going to pop your inflatable wife, b itch.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:01 pmPlease send this to Linda McMahon as her suggested campaign speech.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:05 pmNext issue, please.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:09 pm—
How about the one about that company in Florida?
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Name a success story for the right and when you can’t think of one, recalculate.
Just because some phycopath on the right says that Obama can do no right doesn’t make it true.
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Can you handle true freedom? Doubtful.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:13 pm—
Well when I can’t I just claim I built a business then I steal a name for it…. Afterall it is a free country.
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Next question.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:14 pm—
What product or service does your brow sweat provide.
My God, you’re right. My mind has been blown.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:16 pmHusband Vince is the arch typical CEO; narcissistic, short-fused, cheats on his wife, appoints his kids to executive posts, previously accused of sexual harassment, fires people on a daily basis, pushes a bad ideas over the consensus of good ones.
He is a staunch republican and thinks Obami’s policies will be bad for the economy. And I’m thinking, ‘how can anything be good for the wrestling business with a Neanderthal like Vincent K. McMahon running the place?’
October 4th, 2009 at 4:16 pmThen name one thing he did right!
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kwsventures, what’s that sound a chicken makes?
October 4th, 2009 at 4:20 pmOur economy doesnt need it
Correction, william, wall street doesnt need it.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:20 pmJust because some phycopath (sic) on the left says Bush can do no right doesn’t make it true
You’re speaking in present-tense. Note: Bush was booted out of office w/o running for a third term. Everyone knows he would have suffered a loss worse than Carter or McGovern had he been able to run for a third term.
The proper usage is that he could do no right. The record is overwhelming and speaks for itself.
I’m not in the business of admitting that, however; it isn’t profitable.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:21 pmkwsventures says:
“This is too boring… time for some football..”
I guess it’s less boring when the screen does nothing but talk to only you, eh?
October 4th, 2009 at 4:21 pmKnow-nothing Kristol opines again — who cares? His Weekly Standard cheered when the Olympics didn’t go to Chicago’s bid.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:23 pmThese guys are anti-American in their blind anti-Obama zeal.
They cheered the economic loss that would have benefited the entire nation from hotels and restaurants to construction.
They sneered that Chicago’s crime rate was a deterrent — hah! they don’t know the crime rate in Rio do they?
The hindrances posed to tourists from around the world coming to the US may have played a role, however.
That’s okay run away. When you return I will be sure to ask again…
October 4th, 2009 at 4:23 pmAh, the freedom to pursue it if you want. Or avoid it if you want. I love that. Uncle Sam not forcing you to do something. True freedom. Can you handle true freedom? Doubtful.
Ah, yes, “true freedom” is always for the non-chickenhawk loser who doesn’t have the permanent safety of his mother’s basement written in her will. Let the peasants sift through the rubble while you sit around and eat Cheetos.
Admit you’re not for “freedom”, but for lawlessness. You’ll have yourself a time machine back to the 1850s sooner or later.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:25 pmRachel Maddow was flawless today. She is the best representative for the liberal Democrats on TV.
David Gregory was redundant almost approaching bullying with Susan Rice (U.N. Amb.) today, but she gave him clear and definitive replies — he still wasn’t satisfied.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:26 pmGawd! He is a disgusting host. She, on the other hand, always makes me proud.
Meet the Repukes
October 4th, 2009 at 4:28 pmHow that hell did he come to such an asinine conclusion?
October 4th, 2009 at 4:30 pmYour right, psychopaths aside, its not true that Bush could do no right if you hold the belief that two foreign military operations with no exit plans was the right thing to do.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:31 pmI thought Murdoch sold his pet parakeet BeeKay.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:33 pmMore idiotic false analogies from the school of morons that wanted the Chimperor defacing Mt. Rushmore.
It went real well, didn’t it? MORON PARANOID BU$HWIPES!
Oh, about the coalition of the unsuspecting?
October 4th, 2009 at 4:35 pmHow’s that going? Don’t forget Poland!
These so-called “conservatives” are utter lunatics.
I don’t listen to them, and I would never vote for them.
They need psychiatric help.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:39 pmKristol is a fish-eyed fool.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:53 pmRachel Maddow was on point as usual! She needs to be come on MTP more often.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:53 pmI love it when the stupid trolls talk about “freedom” and “rights”.
Their words and deeds would indicate that they only believe in the freedom to conform and the right to indulge their prejudice.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:54 pmThat Kristol be a daft son of a sea cook! I’d keel haul him if I hadn’t accidentally lost the instructions on how to do it.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:54 pmkwsventures always runs off and puts a little boy on his lap with his pants down when I point out that the useless bastard is phucking over the name of this company:
KWS Ventures
5247 Mare Creek Dr
Crestview, FL 32539-8887(Fort Walton Beach, FL Metro Area)
Phone: (850) 423-0606
He is a panty-waste, a$$-licking, moronic, phucktard!
October 4th, 2009 at 4:54 pmThey sneered that Chicago’s crime rate was a deterrent — hah! they don’t know the crime rate in Rio do they? — Marie
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No kidding. As I wrote earlier this week on another thread related to the same topic, most major cities of roughly comparable size to Chicago have at least comparable — if not worse — crime rates. Anyone who claims otherwise is a) unbelievably ignorant, b) in denial, or c) lying through his or her teeth. I’ve never been to Rio, but I’ve heard at least one story to the effect that there are parts of the city where a tourist should not even consider going unless he or she quite literally has a death wish.
Then again, there are places here in New York City where I live of which others have said more or less the same thing. Back in the late 1980’s, I lived only three or four blocks away from a neighborhood in Manhattan called Alphabet City (so called because the avenues are named for the first four letters of the alphabet). Time was when they used to say (perhaps still do) that if you went as far as Avenue A, you were Adventurous — and as far as B, you were Bold. Going as far as Avenue C meant that you were Crazy…and supposedly, if you went as far as D, there was a good chance of ending up Dead.
October 4th, 2009 at 5:01 pmIf Rachel ran for the presidency, I would vote for her. :-)
October 4th, 2009 at 5:08 pmBellows war on christmas has started early I see
October 4th, 2009 at 5:11 pmEnnywho, william, what do you suppose is causing these empty railroad cars? Illegal aliens? Drugs? Economy?
October 4th, 2009 at 5:14 pmRachel is Mitch Mitchell.
Krystol plays the tambourine for “The Archies“.
October 4th, 2009 at 5:16 pmKRISTOL: Our economy doesn’t need the boost of the Olympics.
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On what planet does Kristol live on where he thinks that income from an event like the Olympics won’t help our economy?
Also, for anyone to say that the rejection was a “humiliation” for Obama is stupid. Their choice of where to have the Olympics had nothing to do with Obama.
October 4th, 2009 at 6:06 pmevangenital says:
These so-called “conservatives” are utter lunatics.
I don’t listen to them, and I would never vote for them.
They need psychiatric help.
I agree totally. I often think (and this one by Kristol is another example) that they really don’t see the harm they are doing to their party and their country. Does Kristol really think that most Americans are sitting there thinking “Boy, that was a close one. I’m so glad the Olympics won’t be in the United States in 2016.”
October 4th, 2009 at 6:10 pmCaptain Bilbo it’s good to be seein’ ye agin. Welcome back on board!
October 4th, 2009 at 6:13 pmNazis murdered 12 million Europeans (6 million Jews). Tyrannical theocRATs have been calling any country where there is universal health care coverage Nazis. Why would Europeans vote for America as a host city, when Americans are calling them, the President of the United States, and anyone for health insurance reform Nazis, like Bill KKKRistol
October 4th, 2009 at 6:32 pmForgive me if this point has been raised already — I’m joining this thread over 100 comments in already — but how exactly is making a pitch to the IOC in any way a “bullying” gesture?
Seriously. William the Bloody really needs to listen to his doctors and get some bed rest. A couple years’ worth, I’m thinking.
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@ 68. kwsventures says: “dbadass says: Next issue, please. How about the one about that company in Florida?” I live about 2700 miles from Florida. Don’t know them. Have nothing to do with them. I did spend 8 days at Disney World in Orlando 7 years ago. Next question. October 4th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
So maybe you’re the kwsventures twit jock strap, Kurt Walters.
October 4th, 2009 at 7:11 pmWell, this proves it. If America is attacked again and tens of thousands are murdered, we know the republic party will be joyous about it!
Spit.
October 4th, 2009 at 7:19 pmI know it’s been asked many times, but it puzzles me so much that I can’t help asking it over and over:
I don’t get it. There’s something very wrong with them.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:32 pmralph the wonder llama says:
… how exactly is making a pitch to the IOC in any way a “bullying” gesture?
it’s not, and he knows it… but by next week, if not sooner,
October 4th, 2009 at 8:34 pmthat “bully” tag will be put to good use… wait’n’see…
Off topic:
The only known video of Anne Frank peering out through a window as she watches a newly married couple leave her building…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEXuviihrrs&feature=related
Very somber video knowing the fate of this brave little girl.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:35 pmCan someone please explain what in the hell the rightwingers are thinking on this one?
I study the right online and I am usually not surprised by their nuttiness. But on this I am truly perplezed.
Do they really think this will win people over to them? Was it just a sustained and prolonged tantrum during which they just didn’t think about how they would be perceived?
Or what?
This just seems like one of the stupidest things any individual or group of individuals could ever conceive of doing.
Seriously, wtf?
Does anyone have a handle on this…?
October 4th, 2009 at 8:58 pmtom says, “I always wish I could wipe the smirk off that smarmy little Billy Kristol’s face whenever he opens his pie-hole.”
Kristol’s Zionist smirk grows and contracts according to the number of defenseless Arab and Muslim civilians tortured and murdered by Israel.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:09 pmThe Republicans could have had their fun at Obama’s expense (”Boy, Obama sure blew it!”), and not trash one of America’s great cities and even root against their own damned country; but no, they had to go the Full Monty. Such feral hatred is truly revealing of a political movement whose leaders and followers have a major self-esteem problem.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:14 pmObama was told a trip to Olympics meeting may clinch Chicago win
Up until a few days before flying to Copenhagen, Obama was not sold on the idea. He was concerned he would be gone when the healthcare debate hit the House or Senate floor.
By Peter Nicholas
October 4, 2009
Reporting from Washington – In the run-up to the Olympics vote, the White House was getting a clear message from the architects of Chicago’s bid: Balloting would be tight, and a personal visit to Copenhagen from President Obama just might lock in a victory.
Leaders of the Windy City’s campaign to secure the 2016 Summer Games had done some nose-counting and were convinced that the International Olympic Committee might well anoint Chicago as host, according to White House officials interviewed Saturday.
[...]
Jarrett flew back home with Obama on Air Force One. She said he was unfazed by the loss.
“We have plenty on our plate to do,” she said. “He called the president of Brazil from Air Force One to offer congratulations, and by the time we landed in Washington, he was talking about healthcare.“
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obama-olympics4-2009oct04,0,5859370.story
October 4th, 2009 at 9:18 pmRepublicans behave this way because they are, at the most basic level, fascists. They are only interested in power. They will do anything to regain that power.
They hate Americans because we removed them from power. We will continue to see more of this hatred as their power continues to wane.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:41 pmI find it amusing that the fascist Republicans are comparing Obama to Bush in an effort to make Obama look bad. It is an admission just how bad Bush was. They are so desperate to smear Obama, they are willing to admit Bush’s inadequacies.
It is so fun to watch the fall of the Republican Party.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:48 pmShorter Kristol: I was awake the last eight years, see?
October 4th, 2009 at 9:51 pmRepublican drones chant U.S.A. while Republican pundits cheer America’s failures. It disgusts me that the Republican Party takes advantage of the patriotism of the stupidest Americans.
Republicans only care about America when they are in power. They are not worthy of even remaining in America. They are guilty of sedition and belong in prison.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:02 pmHe should have sent a high level representative instead of “sacrificing” himself.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:05 pmObama did not “sacrifice” himself. Obama is the figurehead of America, and it is 100% appropriate for him to promote America as its figurehead.
Obama did his job, and for the Republicans to be critical of him for it is disgusting to me, and utterly unpatriotic.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:10 pmWould rather see a panel of A. Grayson, D. Kucinich, Barbara Lee, Ed schultz, T. Hartmann and Nicloe Sandler….
so sick of these old worn out phonies.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:15 pmObama is damned if he made the trip and damned if he did not.
If this is the best the righties can find to botch about then Obama can not be doing all that bad.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:19 pmKristol’s history shows him to be always wrong about everything.
Why should this current “belief” of his be any exception?
He is just another noise machine in the FoxNews kazoo band of nitwits.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:31 pmNot to back someone like Mr. Kristol, but it is better that Chicago didn’t secure the Olympics.
http://digitalcommons.bryant.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1004&context=honors_history
The common misconception is similar to the one that major sports franchises help a city financially when the studies show just the opposite, they actually cost taxpayers more. There are much better ways to help Chicago’s economy, I believe the city will be better off for NOT hosting the Olympics at this time.
Rachel, I know we’re not compatible because you play for a different team, but I’m still bi enough to want you >;-p~~~. Cute Butches are sooooo hot (not that I would ever wish anything ill on your current relationship — I’m just saying ).
October 4th, 2009 at 10:34 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Rachel Maddow rocks!!
Sorry to gush – but she does. ;o)
October 4th, 2009 at 10:43 pmConservaTROLL
Why havent you killed yourself yet you worthless piece of dogshit.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:49 pmYes, she does Leftside Annie. I liked the part where she said (paraphrasing) that the people of Spain would be surprised to learn that their leaders were not risking their prestige in supporting that country’s Olympic bid to the same degree that President Obama did.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:49 pmDr Venture you are a worthless punkass troll with the brains of a fruitfly
October 4th, 2009 at 10:51 pm#129
October 4th, 2009 at 10:52 pmWe didn’t spend near as much to send the Obamas to Denmark as we spent to land a dry drunk on a carrier to provide him with a photo op.
129, You scabs on the right aren’t funny! Here I’ll prove it.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:55 pm3 questions:
Is Bill career to be a talking head for the right wing(highest bidder)? Yes.
Would Bill say literally anything to keep his job? Yes.
Is anyone on the planet surprised? no.
When is TP going to stop being an echo chamber for these puppets? The daily show is what TP should look at for directions on how to aim criticism.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:55 pmA “new” stupid troll calling itself redstateyes seems just as old as any long-banned sockpuppet. So I’ll address it as same.
The thing is, stupid troll, “the left” didn’t make it an issue. It was the Reichwing screeching heads that went totally batscat claiming the world was going to end, at least more quickly, because President Obama took an 18 hour detour to engage in a little informal diplomacy. Diplomacy happens to be another word that Reichwhiners can’t seem to grasp the meaning of but, I digress.
The fact is that it was off the radar until Lush and the creeps started squealing like stuck pigs. Then he didn’t fall drunk off the stage or call an ally a terrorist or grope anyone or make a fool of himself. Then the screechers got nervous when, like manna from heaven, they were presented with the news that Chicago was rejected. Hallelujah Jebus! Now they had a “failure” to cheer.
Within a matter of hours certain elements of the “press” took it from under the radar to “the worst day of his Administration. tee-he tee-he!” And all the while, sane people haven’t really given a rat’s rump about Chicago’s bid for the Olympics.
What sane people have been reacting to is the rabid glee with which the Reichwhiners celebrated a blow to the prestige, if nothing else, of our country just so they can fling some mud at the President. And we can’t help but wonder if they wouldn’t take to the streets in celebration if the good ol U.S.A. is attacked or we suffer a military disaster abroad. I’ve seen nothing in their behavior to indicate that they wouldn’t cheer a real disaster that makes President Obama look bad.
October 4th, 2009 at 11:01 pmIf the olympics were BAD for a country to host why would other countries bid for it? Oh yeah, turns out hosting the olympics is a BOON. The right wing are such morons.
People on the left disagreed with bush when he sold fraud to us and cost us trillions in an illegal wars. Burned the constitution, failed to stop the biggest terror event in memory, tortured anyone, let cheney have way too much power, was on vacation for 25% of the time he was in office. destroyed american relations around the globe. hired Rove and other guilty of corruption and too much power. Kept many state secrets to hide his cronyism, Fired judges that didn’t agree with his version of the law, snorted coke, make the US look like a bunch of idiots, butchered the english language. And don’t forget he single-handedly ruined the republican party.
The right is just sheep and will blindly hate anything obama does. The olympics would help the economy.
BIG different conservative-sheep-man
October 4th, 2009 at 11:07 pmredstateyes your gf is our groupie. She’s says you’re a punk @ss loser but she likes your $$$.
BURN!
October 4th, 2009 at 11:15 pmTo redshoteyes,
I personally expected the Olympics to go to Rio no matter how hard President Obama, PM Hatoyama or King Juan Carlos tried, because the games have yet to be held in a South American country. But speaking of short attention spans, you must be suffering greatly from this disorder if you can’t recall a recent American Olympian other than Phelps. And you’re too arrogant and stupid even to be amusing.
October 4th, 2009 at 11:29 pmI keep reminding myself of that, whenever the tighty-righties embrace another absurd “controversy”.
If all they have at their disposal to tear down the President are fake “outrages” then Obama must be doing pretty darn well, and it must be frustrating the righties no end.
October 4th, 2009 at 11:36 pmoh yea! King Juan Carlos of Spain…
did you hear mike murphy disregard him, like he doesn’t count, when rachel pointed out that the heads of state of the other countries went to denmark… and she said ‘tell that to the citizens of spain’ or something like that…
what is it with those people…???
and then a trooll named redstate shows up here projecting an alternate version of history…
pretty soon there’ll be nothing that surprises me…
October 4th, 2009 at 11:45 pmbut then, i really didn’t think they could get THIS low…
here… this is gonna mess with some heads:
Greece’s Socialists win snap poll
BBC News – ?25 minutes ago?
Outgoing PM Costas Karamanlis has congratulated Pasok leader George Papandreou and resigned as leader of the conservative New Democracy party.
whaaa??? how can…???
ha!
October 4th, 2009 at 11:52 pmI was hoping redneckflies would stick around a little, I wanted to ask him if he agreed with Kristools description of G W Bush as a heavy-handed, cowboy unilateralist and hegemonic imperialist.
If he did, then we all could have had something in common.
October 4th, 2009 at 11:54 pmCan someone explain the value of broadcasting over American airwaves Kristol’s dementia?
The GOP Network (FOX) puts this on air for what purpose? continuing the negative voices on President Obama imagined or factual informs the public better how?
This does not inform the public it reassures the negative mindset. There is no information that betters you understanding of what is news and going on to assist you in any decision(s) you may need to commit to.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:51 amLevi the Oracle says:
Republican drones chant U.S.A. while Republican pundits cheer America’s failures. It disgusts me that the Republican Party takes advantage of the patriotism of the stupidest Americans.
Republicans only care about America when they are in power. They are not worthy of even remaining in America. They are guilty of sedition and belong in prison.
Death row.
redstateyes says:
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The Olympics are irrelevant. Besides, who can name any recent American Olympic athlete besides Phelps. How much money did we spend to send the Obamas to Denmark for a three day dog & pony show? I guess BO will need another vacation in Marxist Vineyard to recharge his batteries.
You guys on the left are really funny!!! I find it so amusing, that you do exactly what you perceive the right as doing. I seem to remember that just a few years ago, Dissent was considered patriotic not racist! I guess you guys have SAS disorder (short attention span).
Were they irrelevant when Bush made a bid for Chicago?
Did you complain when we spent US tax dollars on Bush’s trip?
Why are you complaining now?
Oh. You don’t have to answer question 2. I already know the answer to that……
OBAMA IS
a. BLACK and…
b. Democrat
Did you cheer when the IOC voted down Chicago then?
Your racist punk ass has no room to talk. STFU.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:01 amHere’s the link to the Bush letter from 149 RedStateLoser.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/01/20080107-3.html
October 5th, 2009 at 1:02 amredstateyes, one last question….. Why do you hate America?
October 5th, 2009 at 1:06 amEugeneDebs says:
Dr Venture you are a worthless punkass troll with the brains of a fruitfly
A fruitfly has more brains then KWSMORON.
Now apologize to all those fruitflies you just insulted!
October 5th, 2009 at 1:09 amflatssf says:
The common misconception is similar to the one that major sports franchises help a city financially when the studies show just the opposite, they actually cost taxpayers more.
The Olympics is not a “sports franchise.” You’re comparing apples to iguanas.
For-profit privately owned sports teams often get the better end of the deal when they locate in a city, because they frequently don’t pay for a fair share of the new construction involved.
Olympic events fully reimburse the cities they’re held in for any construction, meaning that the city ends up paying nothing, and reaping all of the benefits of the increased economic activity.
If you have to call it something it isn’t in order to say negative things about it, then you’re clearly trying to misrepresent the facts of the matter, a process also known as “lying.”
I have never in my life heard anybody claim that the Olympics were a bad thing for their host country before a couple of days ago. Never. Neither have you. You’d think if it were actually true, you’d be able to find such arguments being made before Obama’s trip. That’s kind of how truth tends to work. But I guess you wouldn’t know about that.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:19 amThe reason why Obama went to Copenhagen is because Mayor Daley called him and asked for his help. Daley and Obama do not have any personal relationship. Obama decided to try and give Chicago a little nudge for the IOC selection. Of course, this is being buried in the news but reported here in Chicago.
October 5th, 2009 at 2:29 amWhen did George W. Bush ever bully anyone? The guy was a cheerleader for Chrissake.
A Pig of a Bill:
October 5th, 2009 at 5:34 amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlPd3V93bbY
What is the point of sports?
October 5th, 2009 at 5:55 amredstateyes “Marxist Vineyard”
seriously, d-bag? you can’t touch real estate there for under a million. do some research before barfing your talking points here.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:03 amdbadass says:
“What is the point of sports?”
Ritualized warfare.
From “About.com”…
“It’s a curious aspect of sports that even when they are part of a celebration of global peace, like the Olympics, they are nationalistic, competitive, violent, and potentially deadly. Substitute “panhellenic” (open to all Greeks) for “global” and the same could be said about the ancient Olympics. Sports, in general, could be described as ritualized warfare where one power competes with another, where each hero (star athlete) strives to defeat a worthy opponent within a setting where death is unlikely.”
and this little morsel…
“It was sacrilege to commit a crime, like accepting payment, corruption, and invasion during the Olympic games.”
“The Greeks dated events from the first Olympiad in in 776 B.C. — two decades before the legendary founding of Rome.”
Little has changed in nearly 4000 years, eh?
I can guess that sports originated much, much earlier in human history, though for the same reasons.
Modern sports, with the exception of the Olympics perhaps, continues to foster the same purpose.
Bread and circus, anyone?
October 5th, 2009 at 6:44 amAll countries who wanted the Olympics WERE REPRESENTED BY THEIR PRESIDENTS/LEADERS. President Obama going to Copenhagen was not a stretch for crying out loud!
THE FINAL CONCLUSION:
American republicans hate America, hope she dies, and will applaud loudly when America is attacked again ’cause they hate her so much! The End.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:53 amBy the term modern sports I mean commercialized sports, which has reached the pinnacle of extremity in this country.
It exists primarily as a means to sell product, keep the general populace in a mild stupor, and to lure younger generations into believing they can achieve glory, wealth, and an illusion of power through physical prowess as opposed to mental prowess.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:59 amSigh.
“If Bush…”
“If Obama…”
I’m getting tired of the hypothetical in politics.
Let’s just put it this way–Obama attempted to be a businessman to sell Chicago for 2016 and did not succeed at convincing the IOC. Fine. I don’t want to make excuses or play WWDubyaD? It didn’t work out, so let’s move on to the health care reform debate again.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:25 amThis drivel from the same Cheney-wipe who predicted easy and painless “victory” in Iraqnam. Bill Kristol has yet to get a single prediction correct yet he continues to get media attention. Whose mistake is that?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:29 amHave you considered the bullying of Congress that went into the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraqnam? What about “Bring em on”?? What about thumbing his nose at the US Constitution calling it “just a god damned piece of paper.” Aren’t those acts of bullying?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:32 amIf not for his bullying tactics, we would have had only 4 years of the disastrous Bush presidency.
And let’s not give Dufous to much blame, he was but a cardboard cutout, barely big enough for Cheney to hide behind.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:22 amKRISTOL: Our economy doesn’t need the boost of the Olympics.
Oh, I get it. He’s announcing that his next statements will be so totally absurd, that this opening line will look rational in comparison.
Pithy.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:57 amStop giving this evil fascist a forum.
Shout him down whenever he speaks.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:25 amWhat an embarrassing smackdown for Obama, Chicago was the very first to be eliminated.
Saw that Rachel Madcow on TV on Sunday, boy does she– or is it he–, comes off as such a dope.
October 5th, 2009 at 3:26 pmThanks for the Vote Down! It isn’t very surprising to see the vile responses by some. I am very concerned about the direction the USA is going in. Soon we will all be unable to freely chose for ourselves. The government will tell us where to work, live, what we can drive & how much of OUR money we get to keep! Keep up the hatred and insults; I am sure they pass for inteligent conversation on this website.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:14 pmBaloney
You know what is embarassing? Your abject stupidity is embarassing. I long for the good old days when people were embarassed about how stupid they were instead of parading it proudly. You are a punk and you are ignorant.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:49 amredstate
Why would anyone waste intelligent conversation on a moron like you? You are stupid. You are ignorant and brainwashed. Spewing ignorant talking you were programmed with by Rush just shows how incredibly stupid you are nothing else. Do us all a favor and STFU until you grow a brain
October 6th, 2009 at 12:51 amJust smile… liposuction and not concerned about the direction the USA.
October 9th, 2009 at 9:51 amThank you for your sharing.!
October 11th, 2009 at 4:32 pm