GOP Senate candidate: My campaign is like fighting the Nazis in World War II.
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GOP Senate candidate: My campaign is like fighting the Nazis in World War II.
In an interview with the Washington Post yesterday, former Ron Paul economic adviser Peter Schiff, who is now running as a Republican for Connecticut’s U.S. Senate seat, feigned modesty when asked about his candidacy, saying that he wasn’t “heroic” for running for office. However, he then compared himself to the heroes who fought in World War II against Nazi Germany:
I’m interrupting my career. It’s not like I want my new career in politics. But I’m willing to interrupt it the same way that somebody interrupted their career and joined World War II and went off to fight the Nazis.
Schiff added that he doesn’t think he’s “that heroic” and admitted he’s not “risking as much as a soldier.” “But it’s the same principle,” he added.
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So he’s willing to be drafted into the Senate to peel spuds and dig latrines? Cool!
October 5th, 2009 at 5:24 pmWhat is it with the Right Wing and their reference to Nazis? Some sort of fetish?
October 5th, 2009 at 5:26 pmOh, good. Another idiot….
October 5th, 2009 at 5:26 pmJeezus effin Christ! What is with these neoclowns and the frickin’ Nazis?
They’re worse than Mel Brooks that way.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:28 pmSorry, raynman. I stole your line.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:28 pmYou probably could have stopped typing after “former Ron Paul economic advisor” and we would have figured out the guy was a dingbat.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:28 pmIt’s been a Banner day hasn’t it? The Repugs are going after Beck and Limpballs. Steele has been chastised by Repug leaders and this joker is using a Nazi reference.. And all the while, MSM has been saying Dems are the divided Party.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pmSeems more like this campaign is like fighting… who was that we were fighting in Grenada again?
October 5th, 2009 at 5:31 pmAs what, you chicken-sh*t Republican A-hole? I’ll bet the closest you’ve ever been to a military uniform was going to a 4th of July parade!
That’s from his very brief bio link. Maybe he was on Beck’s show and figures that qualifies him to be considered as one of the “Greatest Generation”.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pmSchiff added that he doesn’t think he’s “that heroic” and admitted he’s not “risking as much as a soldier.” “But it’s the same principle,” he added.
Schiff’s been talking to Mittens. This is the same parallel Romney used during the primaries when asked why his big strong boys hadn’t joined the military. Campaigning for daddy was just as patriotic as being deployed to Iraq.
Do these people even listen to their own words?
October 5th, 2009 at 5:33 pmWhat a tool. Yeah, and stubbing my toe is exactly like being interrogated by the Gestapo.
These rightwing idiots are angry? If push really comes to shove these mindless, soulless cretins will face the deep and valid rage we liberals have felt for 30 years now, ever since Reagan accelerated the banana-republicanizing of our nation.
Sincerely,
October 5th, 2009 at 5:33 pmAn enraged Irish liberal who knows how to throw a really nasty punch
Schiff added that he doesn’t think he’s “that heroic” and admitted he’s not “risking as much as a soldier.” “But it’s the same principle,” he added.
– - This post is just like writing the greatest novel EV.ER. Except it’s shorter, hasn’t made me any money and is rather pedantic. But, ya know, it’s the same principle.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pmAnother clueless right wing dooshnozzle.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:36 pmNo, running for Senate is like…running for the Senate.
Come on, pal. Can’t you use less inflammatory language than that? Think before you try to be colorful.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:37 pmWait, he’s going up against Linda McMahon for the Connecticut seat?
He’s likening fighting her to fighting Nazis?
October 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pmAre his handlers gonna pull him back and say he went a little over the top there ? Perhaps language that could inflame violence ?
October 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pmOT
October 5th, 2009 at 5:38 pmWow that isn’t a forehead that is some sort of out of control eighthead at least….
I think the boy’s bucking for what we call a section 8.
Pee in the cup soldier!
October 5th, 2009 at 5:39 pmPlease, FSM, let it be Lieberman’s seat. That would be a howling good contest, with ‘ol Joe suddenly remembering his democratic roots, and republicans going after him as “republican lite.”
October 5th, 2009 at 5:40 pmI’ve given up worrying about these idiots – I’m gonna watch the Packers and Vikings tonight
October 5th, 2009 at 5:41 pmHe wouldn’t stand a chance against Dodd, so it must be Tailkisser Joe.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:43 pmUh just for historical accuracy, there was a strong Nazi-admiration movement in the USA in the 30s.
It was tied to the union-busting, pro-big-business crowd. Not them lib-rals.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:47 pmMapleStreet is exactly right. They admired the Nazi way of running things so much they tried to stage a coup in 1933 to make it our form of government.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:54 pmThat statement is beyond ignorant and pathetic.
They have nothing. They stand for nothing. The re-Thuglic party is the laughing stock of the US – even other countries are amazed at the idiocy on display in this party.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:54 pm*
Schiff is running in the primaries and if he wins, he will face off against Dodd.
And yes, Schiff has been a regular guest of Beck for as long as I can remember, back from the days when Beck was on CNN.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:56 pmYa just like the stern look I received from a crossing guard last week is the same as Rodney King getting pummeled by the L.A.P.D. I would like to take all of these tough talk shit stains and put them in any lock up in this country just for one day and observe the cowardice oozing from every pour in their body. If you don’t understand violence, don’t talk the shit or it may just come calling one day!
October 5th, 2009 at 5:56 pmI wonder if the dominatrix he hires dresses up as a Nazi for him?
Maybe that is why these repug scum keep bring it up?
Yah think!!!
October 5th, 2009 at 5:58 pmI’m interrupting my career. It’s not like I want my new career in politics. But I’m willing to interrupt it the same way that somebody interrupted their career and joined World War II and went off to fight the Nazis.
So he’s been drafted? This is silly.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:59 pmI wonder how his little quip would go over in Germany or Israel. Neither are terribly fond of self-serving Nazi references.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:01 pmIn the interest of full disclosure, I’m a long-haired bald guy and have no right to criticize anyone’s hair. But, that’s one bad haircut. He looks like a character from Babylon 5.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:04 pmYou are one sorry ass jerk.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:08 pmYou have NO idea what was there, fighting the Nazis.
May you end up under a pile of Huskies dung.
I believe he would be running against Dodd for the 2010 election. Dodd seems to have a lot of people all lined up against him this time round. The sharks smell the blood in the water with Dodd allegedly getting an unrealistically favorable rate from Countrywide on a re-fi.
Biden and Obama are both going to try to help Dodd out this month. He needs it.
Unfortunately, CT is stuck with Lieberman until at least 2012.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:08 pmAt least he didn’t say he was fighting Lincoln so that slavery could be maintained in the south.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:09 pmThis idiot is just another Ron Paul. He thinks the rich will self-regulate themselves in the name of self-interest.
Sounds to me, he wasted alot of his money on an education that didn’t teach him much.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:12 pmformer Ron Paul economic adviser
Now there’s an impeccable pedigree!
Heh.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:14 pmLet’s see: His old man was a well known tax protester, he was a financial advisor to Ron Paul, wrote a book called ‘How to Profit from the Coming Economic Collapse’ and compares himself to soldiers from WWII even tho he’s never served in the military.
Yep, he qualifies as a Republican candidate – greedy, self-centered and delusional.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:18 pmIt looks like his hair slipped down the back of his head.
Are we sure this guy is alive…?
October 5th, 2009 at 6:21 pmLet’s send him to Afghanistan to take on the Taliban and we’ll see how he compares combat and campaigning afterward.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:31 pmIncredible. Peter’s platform is narcissism. The guy can go on for hours talking about how humble he is. “I am not a hero. I only combine all the heroism it took to defeat the Nazis in my wee person.”
October 5th, 2009 at 6:38 pmGO HERE to tell him he is an idiot.
http://www.schiffforsenate.com
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October 5th, 2009 at 6:40 pmhttp://www.facebook.com/PeterSchiffforSenate
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Mr. Duke
October 5th, 2009 at 6:46 pmI am interested in your ideas. Might you share with us how you can to these conclusions?
Stay classy, Mr. Duke.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:47 pmWhat a dolt. He can look that word up.
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He knows that printing dollars to crazy excess will crush the dollar and create a hyperinflation that will blow the doors off the lifestyle of the average citizen.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:58 pm—
Ah anyone with a third grade education knows that. Now as to the premise that there are no congresspeople that know ANYTHING about economics. How would you defend this statement? Did you just say that to be cute?
backup says:
October 5th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Just shut up, please.
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Look it up, Mr Duke? You gotta be joking. So he knows that massive deregulation by a Republican Congress and a gigantic tax cut for the rich didn’t spur economic growth? And low and behold thats the plan again? The Republican economic plan is to get rich at the expense of hard working people. Period.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:09 pmbackup:
October 5th, 2009 at 7:11 pmI think she ment the endless excuse making but I think we both know that…
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I knew b-cup wouldn’t want to miss this… he’s got a Peter Schiff lunch box, I hear.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:18 pmralph. come on.
If someone’s willing to give up the money of the private sector to serve the public, that’s cool.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:19 pmExcellent! b-cup has found a way to re-use his zombietime link.
Gotta hand it to b-cup; he is committed to recycling his talking points.
“Use it up, wear it out; make it do or do without”, eh, b-cup?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pmb-cup, I forget… how many “Nazi” references from the left regarding President Bush were made by candidates or prominent media figures?
Must have been a lot, I’m sure, since you’re saying the two sides are basically equal in their use of the smear, right?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pmThe scoundrel [peter schiff] always sees himself as the saint. It’s more comfy that way, for the weak minded.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:23 pmb-cup sees himself as the saint on this stage, but as we all know, he’s playing the scoundrel. Hehehh.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:25 pmBadmoodman says:
– – This post is just like writing the greatest novel EV.ER. Except it’s shorter, hasn’t made me any money and is rather pedantic. But, ya know, it’s the same principle.
I nominate this for the best post of the day. It’s sort of like the Pulitzer Prize, except of course, it isn’t.
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The whole flaw in the premise, besides comparing himself to any kind of hero, is the mad belief that those with the most to gain by stealing should be in charge of enforcement.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pmThere are only two reasons for privatization, one for forsaking the private sector for the public.
One is profit. The other is ego in pursuit of profit.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pmralph. come on.
If someone’s willing to give up the money of the private sector to serve the public, that’s cool.
So suddenly this person decides altruism is his life. Pards don’t change their spots.
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Ted Kennedy spent 50 years fighting for people. All of a sudden Schiff has an epiphany. One related to Nazis.
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what excuse making…
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Jon Corzine?
Philbert Hunnicutt? Bob Wordsworth? Etmo Gonzimuck?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:41 pmtalking crazy sheeyat like that ain’t going to fly up here in connecticut.
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Maybe the next Republican President (if there is one) will award him the Purple Heart or Medal of Freedom for his extraordinary courage (eyes rolling).
October 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm“Barack is one of the smartest people you will ever encounter who will deign to enter this messy thing called politics.”
- Michelle Obama
October 5th, 2009 at 7:51 pm“Schiff added that he doesn’t think he’s “that heroic” and admitted he’s not “risking as much as a soldier.” “But it’s the same principle,”
yes, because there just so happens to be periodic gunfire on the floor of the u.s. senate.
why is it these chickenshit cancervatives always overcompensate for the fact they avoid military service like the plague?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:56 pmI couldn’t find any mention of him actually serving in the military but its fun to pretend I guess….
October 5th, 2009 at 7:58 pmbackup says:
If someone’s willing to give up the money of the private sector to serve the public, that’s cool
Then why wasn’t that the case whe Al Franken gave up private sector money to run for the Senate?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pmPeter looks like the kind of dweeb that everyone wants to give a good hard noogie.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:59 pmWhich would explain the lack of frontal hair.
Mr.Duke says:
What is it you get out of being a brainwashed moron? You are stupid. You are ridulous. You are a joke. Why are you so proud to be so stupid? Making such obviously idiotic statements just to jerk us around shows you to be a juvenile piece of garbage. Why dont you just STFU until you grow up?
October 5th, 2009 at 8:00 pmMr.Duke says:
Take your crystal ball and shove it up your tarhole. You are a brainwashed braindead moron who pretty much NEVER knows what you are talking about
October 5th, 2009 at 8:02 pmSchiff is a lying slimebag.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pmbackup says:
Zooey. It’s not laudable to forego the private sector to serve the public?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
No, it’s not.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pmOne can only hope that the alleged “nazi’s” win this round and keep this fool out of any elected office.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:09 pmb-cup, I will grant you that Nazi references are over-used on both sides of the aisle. They are over-used here in the discussion forums at TP.
(That being said, however, not every invocation of the N-word or the H-word is de facto inappropriate.)
The difference, as I alluded to above, is that the Right has mainstreamed the practice, so that neither Republican officials nor conservative pundits now have the least hesitation to challenge Godwin’s Law. I suppose it has a lot to do with the right-wing propensity for basing their rhetoric on emotion rather than logic.
I suspect that plus their widely demonstrated inability to process the lessons and facts of history results in the phenomenon we see today.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pmdo the repukes ever stop to think making such flippant references degrades the torture experienced by millions at the hands of the nazis and their families?
October 5th, 2009 at 8:15 pmSchiff sucks at his economics gig, so now he wants a different job. In the end, he’ll cash in with a sweet lobbyist job.
Hardly laudable.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:18 pm??????WTF is this guy talking about??????? His brain must be fried from listening to Ron Paul.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pmpags2,
Maybe Ron Paul’s brain got fried from listening to this guy! :D
October 5th, 2009 at 8:31 pmralph. It has gotten more common.
And, although I disagreed with the comparisons of Bush to Hitler, at least there were the elements of war and plausible imperialism.
With President Obama, he’s accused of attempts at nationalizing and promoting public healthcare.
Those comparisons to Nazism are ridiculous.
The Nazi rhetoric is detrimental.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:34 pmWhat is it with the Right Wing and their reference to Nazis? Some sort of fetish? — Raynman
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Actually, it’s at moments like this when the frequency of the references make me wonder whether they might be trying to start a meme…as in, Obama = Hitler so therefore Democrats = Nazis = Enemies of America.
An implication too subtle for the Republicans and therefore not in keeping with their usual tactics, you say? I wouldn’t be too certain of that, myself…I don’t think it’s much more subtle than the “Obama/Osama” meme that they tried to use during the 2008 election.
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Another fear-mongering character assassinating ultra-rightist ideologue running?
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Peter Schiff, another Republican freedom fighter. I swear, these guys were awed when GW jumped out of the fighter and declared “mission accomplished”. The approach may have played well for the brain-dead RNC, but the rest of us just wanted to puck!
A bunch of armchair patriots, go figure!
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Libertarian as in member of the John Birch Society?
Is he running on a platform to restore the Purity of Essence of bodily fluids.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
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Being Republican is a horrific crime in itself.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pmI will not be friendly to a fascist Republican. Republicans are criminals and do not deserve to be my friends.
The Republican Party is an organized criminal institution, and its propagandists belong in prison. Yes, that means you Crazy Legs.
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ironmanjakarta,
Do not speak ill of the dead. Ever wonder why people say that? Perhaps Republicans will figgure it out someday, if they ever regain a sense of morality.
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Rossi46 says:
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Peter Schiff is not a REPUBLICAN!
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If Pete is not a Republican, why does he sound like one?
October 5th, 2009 at 10:47 pmIf you have plans of running for office these days, mouthing the Republican rhetoric says “look I’m a Republican”. With this line he wouldn’t even get my consideration.
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This is hilarious, the sock-puppets are now chatting with each other.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:07 pmI bet Mark Koldy and eric Odon are proud of their little troll critters.
Is everybody in the GOP tone deaf? The Nazi crap has been backfiring so badly the GOP leadership said knock it off. Either the GOP leadership is insincere or ineffective because it is still going on.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:11 pmCrazy Legs:
Speaking of cyber stalkers, what is with Rick Martinez (Trajie) and his obsessive stalking of Charles Johnson and Keith Olbermann?
Why is twajie so cowardly that he refuses to even discuss my offer to debate him one on one?
Here kitty…..kitty…..kitty…..kitty
October 5th, 2009 at 11:33 pmUnlike you and your cohorts at the stalker/hate blog, I have been using only one nickname to blog.
You intellectual midgets may claim otherwise but never seem to mention these other nicknames you allege I have been using.
Put up or STFU.
You haven’t answered my question, why is Rick Martinez too cowardly to debate me one on one. It can’t be that he is afraid to look stupid, he already does that each and every time he posts online.
Is it because his master, Eric Odom, won’t allow him to do the debate?
October 5th, 2009 at 11:49 pmOkay schiff,
If you’re not heroic, not risking life of livelihood, not fighting evil, not traveling, not in the army, not using a gun, not training, not sweating, not rationing food, not fighting for americans, not drafted, and not proud… HOW ARE YOU LIKE AMERICANS IN WWII?
Oh I know, you have no knowledge of america from 1945-2009!
October 5th, 2009 at 11:55 pmCrazyMORON
Are you actually calling someone ELSE an intellectual midget? My GOD you are stupider than toejam. I could have a more intelligent conversation with a gerbil. You take stupid into the realm of an artform. I once showed my goldfish one of your posts and he said MAN that guy is stupid.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:01 amEugeneDebs:
It is even more pathetic than that, the silly little troll is plagiarizing my comments 118 & 124.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:15 amHe probably can’t find the last talking points he received from Eric Odom and so he is forced to used other posters material until he receives tomorrow mornings talking points from Troll Central.
Well CrazyMORON is very stupid and doesnt have the brainpower of a dustmite so thinking for himself is always going to be beyond his wildest dreams
October 6th, 2009 at 1:23 am.
… Because nothing says American like calling your opponent a Nazi, YES?
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October 6th, 2009 at 1:33 amSo backup finally acknowledges his nazi link. And then passes the blame off to someone else.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:41 amFrom Ryan’s post;
(Schiff said), “I’m interrupting my career. It’s not like I want my new career in politics. But I’m willing to interrupt it the same way that somebody interrupted their career and joined World War II and went off to fight the Nazis.”
Schiff added that he doesn’t think he’s “that heroic” and admitted he’s not “risking as much as a soldier.” “But it’s the same principle,” he added.
Uh, well, no. It’s not the same principle at all. He can just put his options and holdings in a blind trust, resign his position, and if he loses the election, go right back to work. All he’s risking is his market position. It’s good to be president of a brokerage in 2009, instead of a draftee in 1942, ‘43, ‘44, or ‘45. It’s not heroic at all, in fact; I didn’t know brokers were that hot for bloviating, but then again, it’s a snake earl sales job. There’s nothing so wonderful as a sense of false humility in a candidate though…
October 6th, 2009 at 1:45 ambackup the “concern” troll went to great pains to avoid this comment from another thread this morning. I truly believe that it should be reprinted here.
Leo Lyons says:
Dogma. Anything backup doesn’t agree with. His thoughts are all pure and unbiased, children.
“For example. Imagine a community of conservatives that shout down or exclude any comment that doesn’t match their worldview.”
I don’t have to imagine it. A right wing blog that backup linked to. He’s always posing his concern for balance and challenging ideas. Check this blog he linked to, see if you can find any of his comments. I can’t. Now try other right wing blogs; redstate, townhall, etc. Search for backup’s “concerned” comments. Let me know if you find any.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
You sir, are no good.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:51 am@ 34, Daniels says: This idiot is just another Ron Paul. He thinks the rich will self-regulate themselves in the name of self-interest. Sounds to me, he wasted alot of his money on an education that didn’t teach him much. October 5th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Maybe, educationwise. He probably went through on student loans and his parent’s money; he claims to have a degree in finance and accounting from UC Berkeley.
No worse than the Shrub and his degrees from Yale and Harvard Business; he didn’t go for the education, he went for the networking and contacts.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:53 amObviously what schiff was trying to illustrate was not that being a senator and being a soldier are the same thing, he was implying that his approach to being a senator would not be that of a career politician. i.e. The interruption of personal life was not permanent…he will not seek reelection. This is similar to how someone who voluntarily joins the military to fight a worthy cause has no intention of giving up their life, they will not reenlist after the job is complete, as opposed to someone who would be in the military as a career. even though it is not as great a sacrifice(something he readily admits) the two personal choices do share commonalities. Who would sacrifice their job or life to go voluntarily fight the war in Iraq? obviously a comparison to ww2 enlistment is more appropo as it was a war of true moral purpose. That evil happened to be Nazis…he is not comparing obama or democrats to nazis. Schiff was highly critical of the Bush administration. please consider his entire position and not just something that someone highlights in an article. The guys is full of analogies, give him a break. his position is not the platform of the republican party as you know it. schiff has numerous video entries that describe his position, please watch them. He is an excellent economist and is exactly the kind of person we need in washington. if you would like to learn more about the history of his foundation in economics, and the liberal economists that preceded him, i highly recommend mises.org. Please investigate..it only takes a few clicks. Thank you!
October 6th, 2009 at 2:11 amraynman says, “What is it with the Right Wing and their reference to Nazis? Some sort of fetish?”
Haven’t you heard? 96% of Israelis think that President Obama is a Jew hater and anti-semitic. Some Jews in Israel say that they would shoot President Obama if they had the chance.
http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2009/09/200992261458462792.html
October 6th, 2009 at 4:07 amYO, PK, it aint the same thing. It aint close. He’s going to spend the summer in Connecticut spending other people’s money and he can quit whenever he wants. He’s not risking his life, he’s running for office. He can say what he pleases, where he pleases, he can come and go as he pleases. he’s going to live in nice clean hotel rooms and talk on the T.V. He’s going to spend the 4th of July walking in a parade in some cute little burg with big trees and white picket fences. And he’ll have plenty of pictures taken for his campaign ads. He wants to go to Washington, not Berlin. He wants to legislate, not fight. What’s wrong with you people.
A more honest analogy would be that heis running for senate is like quitting his job to volunteer full time for the USO, or Habitat for Humanity.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:21 amA friend invested w/ Peter Schiff 2 years ago. I advised him to avoid Schiff and go for simple ETFs like DGS, DIM and DLS, which would cover the same sector that Schiff claimed to be an expert in.
During the meltdown, my friend’s portfolio went down more than 50%, whereas the benchmark that I had set up for him using the DGS, DIM and DGS ETFs was down only 25%. So, it would take a gain of 100% for the Schiff stocks to break even whereas it takes just 33% for the ETFs to break even.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:16 am“…using the DGS, DIM and DGS ETFs”
Make that “…using the DGS, DIM and DLS ETFs”
October 6th, 2009 at 9:17 amBobwurst has it correct. You have to love how people …”liberals”… spin stuff like this… He never said his campaign is like fighting Nazi’s in WWII. I cant believe that we are even talking about something so stupid…
Whirlaway, maybe your friend should have stuck around a little longer with Schiff… because I did… Ive made around 80% on top of small loss I had once the recession really kicked into gear… Quit acting like no one ever loses money playing the stock market… Peter is not a fortune teller… but his foundation is a hell of a lot more solid than most anywhere else…
RON PAUL 2012
PETER SCHIFF FOR SENATE
But this will probably get voted down…
October 6th, 2009 at 9:56 amHmm, -2 in the vote down… figures…
October 6th, 2009 at 10:30 amSchiff is another KKKonservanazi looking to be a chicken hawk.
Cute.
If he’s off to fighting Nazis, he should start in his own party:
the KKKonservanazi republiKlan party. ;)
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag carrying a cross.” Sinclair Lewis
October 6th, 2009 at 11:15 am@ 45. backup says: The Nazi references have been overused inappropriately by both sides. If Schiff is willing to interrupt his career in the private sector in an attempt to serve the public, that’s laudible. October 5th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
What is it you don’t understand this time, backup? Schiff opened the door by comparing his own vanity campaign for Senate to going off to fight the Nazis. Why did he do that? What is so brave and heroic and marvelous about starting a political campaign? It may take him out of his comfort zone, but it ain’t anywhere close to putting him into combat. So what’s his problem? Did he go out and overdose on “Inglorious Basterds”? Anyway, chances are, if he’d ever been drafted or volunteered as an enlisted man, he’d have ended up as a clerk in a HQ unit.
He’s running for Senate? I hope Dodd wipes the floor with him. I’d like it even more if the Democratic Party could get a good candidate that isn’t carrying the kind of baggage Chris Dodd has accumulated. Maybe the Republicans can come up with someone like Lincoln Chafee.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:02 pmbobwurst, once again..neither schiff nor i have claimed that the job of being a senator is like the job of being a soldier, obviously. And obviously neither of those two things are like being involved with the uso or habitat for humanity. Its an interruption of personal life that he didn’t plan. We do not need more career politicians, its amazing that all the progressives in here cant understand why career politicians are a bad thing. Im sure schiff would much rather continue building his company than interrupt his lifes work to go to government for a term. Its not like a cushy vacation job, he will spend 0% of his time trying to get reelected…just like those who volunteer for ww2 or those who volunteer for the uso and habitat for humanity, he plans to return to private life when its over…its completely obvious this is what he is talking about and it makes perfect sense. In fact they further share similarities since they are both motivated by patriotism.
also, everyone lost money in 08..obviously it was a huge collapse…thats like being surprised that someone got hurt while standing next to a bomb that blew up. A touch of investigating reveals that schiffs bet in foreign markets has continued to payoff brilliantly as this year those markets have been kicking ass and taking names. where are these magnificent brokers that managed to avoid losses in ‘08? The losses that he suffered are either erased or close to being erased already…mere months later. its disingenuous to suggest that he doesnt know what hes talking about due to the Global events of 08. His economic predictions have been spot on and his understanding of sound economic theory is clear. Please wake up from the false left right dichotomy of this country, its not real and peter schiff is not defined by it. Please take the time to understand his position which is radically different from the neocon perspective, which you all love to hate. schiff understands that the republican party has completely lost its values and has adopted the interventionist/statist policies of the progressive democrats. He stands against that trend…not with it.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:05 pmalso i would hardly call it a vanity campaign since until the overwhelming support started pouring in, he had no intention of running for senate and spoke many times that he had absolutely no desire to run. He was convinced to run, by people who care about freedom and individual rights. in a sense he was ‘drafted’ by all those around the country that called for him to run. so please…once again, if your going to make a statement about something you have no knowledge of…i implore you to take that tiny second to do a little research. Schiff has certainly made his position clear with the hundreds of blogs and radioshows..theres no excuse for you to blithely misrepresent him simply because you didnt like george bush.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:12 pm@ 97. flight says: Peter Schiff, another Republican freedom fighter. I swear, these guys were awed when GW jumped out of the fighter and declared “mission accomplished”. The approach may have played well for the brain-dead RNC, but the rest of us just wanted to puck! A bunch of armchair patriots, go figure! October 5th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Yup, that’s Petey. Fighting freedom whereever he can.
I hate to add to the general disillusionment, but that plane the Shrub jumped out of to declare “Mission Accomplished” was NOT a fighter. Specifically, it was a Lockheed Martin S-3 “Viking”. It’s a multi-mission aircraft and carries a crew of 4; it’s primarily configured for anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare. Here’s a reputable link;
http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/man/uswpns/air/asw/s3b.html
The Navy let Shrub ride in the co-pilot’s seat and may have even allowed him to handle the controls in straight and level flight. After all, once upon a time he flew something that had the performance characteristics of a lawn dart with an afterburning enging strapped to it.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:22 pmahh one more tiny thing…
“He’s running for Senate? I hope Dodd wipes the floor with him. I’d like it even more if the Democratic Party could get a good candidate that isn’t carrying the kind of baggage Chris Dodd has accumulated.”
man…this guy is actually ready to take the proven criminal over this person who he has not investigated at all. wow…thats truly spiteful, and not completely atypical…..
October 6th, 2009 at 1:26 pmpresskidney, I don’t have a problem with Schiff running, but when he leads with that kind of comment, he opens himself to a lot of ridicule. There is no particular equivalence between combat and Congress; we haven’t had much shooting in Congress in recent decades. An overabundance of insults and the usual heap of lies and disingenuous moves to screw the populace, yes; out and out warfare, no.
I don’t have a problem with any libertarian running, assuming Schiff is a libertarian, but I don’t expect to see him win. I’d prefer to see a “left liberal progressive” libertarian run than a “Ron Paul” libertarian. If Schiff proposes to run as a Republipimp, I wish him all the worst.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:33 pmPrinting dollars with abandon will crush the USA economy.
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/349687/Dollar-Living-on-Its-Reputation-and-Borrowed-Time?tickers=gld,tlt,tbt,uso,xle,udn,gdx&sec=topStories&pos=8&asset=&ccode=
October 6th, 2009 at 1:47 pm@ 148. presskidney says: ahh one more tiny thing…
“He’s running for Senate? I hope Dodd wipes the floor with him. I’d like it even more if the Democratic Party could get a good candidate that isn’t carrying the kind of baggage Chris Dodd has accumulated.” man…this guy is actually ready to take the proven criminal over this person who he has not investigated at all. wow…thats truly spiteful, and not completely atypical….. October 6th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
@ 134. Virtual Pebble says: … he claims to have a degree in finance and accounting from UC Berkeley. … October 6th, 2009 at 1:53 am
Now where do you suppose I got that item of information? From not investigating someone you’re touting? And when was Dodd convicted? Has he even been indicted?
Aside from that, the fact that Dodd has an uphill fight against Rob Simmons is indicative that any other candidates, particularly a minor party candidate, if Schiff runs as a third party choice, will have an even worse time of it. If Schiff runs as a Democrat or as a Republican, he has to beat either Simmons or Dodd in the primary, then the other in the final; what are his chances in any of those scenarios?
October 6th, 2009 at 1:50 pm@ Virtual Pebble
Whats so wrong with Ron Paul and Peter Schiff? You act like sound money, small government and eliminating career politicians is a bad thing…
If so, please explain why.
RON PAUL 2012
October 6th, 2009 at 2:12 pmPETER SCHIFF FOR SENATE
If you don’t think that dodd’s abuse of his power is criminal i really dont know what to tell you. Was george bush indicted? do you consider his actions criminal? Also, it doesnt seem like very thorough research to simply look up what college he went to. Its not even close to understanding what his actual position is.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:45 pmwhat exactly is a left progressive liberal libertarian? People these days have zero understanding of the history of these terms. Liberalism and the progressive philosophy have absolutely nothing to do with one another. Every time a progressive calls himself a ‘liberal’ it is quite an ironic mistake. Unfortunately that term was stolen from the champions of genuine liberalism long ago, as it originally stood for freedom, individualism and capitalism. If you support interventionism and statism you have no right to call yourself a liberal. even hillary clinton understands this. while your looking up what colleges people went to, you should also consider reading some economic history…
President Barack Obama has increased the U.S. marketable debt to an unprecedented $6.94 trillion as he borrows to spur the world’s largest economy. Goldman Sachs Group Inc. predicts the country will sell about $2.9 trillion of debt in the two years ending next September.
More debt, awesome.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:49 pm@ 153. presskidney says: If you don’t think that dodd’s abuse of his power is criminal i really dont know what to tell you. Was george bush indicted? do you consider his actions criminal?
I don’t know that Dodd’s abuse of power is criminal; I’m not a judge, jury, or prosecutor. His abuse and corruption may simply be reprehensible or criminal or both. I wouldn’t appreciate having to vote for him; I’d be inclined to look at the other candidates first.
As it happens, I do consider some of George Bush’s actions criminal, but once again, I’m not the go-to guy on jurisprudence and prosecutions here or anywhere. I’m just another citizen with an opinion. I think the W’s unilateral abrogation of the Geneva Convention and the abuse visited on some of our prisoners may constitute war crimes. So what?
Also, it doesnt seem like very thorough research to simply look up what college he went to. Its not even close to understanding what his actual position is.
Did I say (write) that finding out what college Schiff went to is the extent of my research? You tend toward presumption. As for his position, I might be more interested in that if I were a Connecticut resident, but I’m not; I’m on the other side of the Missisippi and relatively satisfied with my state’s Senators, both of whom are Democrats and neither of which are as nutty as a few others.
what exactly is a left progressive liberal libertarian?
I’m sorry to hear that you think in exclusive categorical box terminology.
People these days have zero understanding of the history of these terms.
Zero? Zip? Nada? Really? These days? Old timer, air ye?
Liberalism and the progressive philosophy have absolutely nothing to do with one another.
They are not, however, mutually exclusive terms, particularly in everyday usage. There are progressive liberals, progressive conservatives, progressive republicans, progressive Republicans, progressive democrats, progressive Democrats, progressives, and Progressives. Most of the small ‘p’ progressives have some interest in improving government and society. You may not like that, but there it is, anyway. There may even be progressive libertarians and Libertarians. As it happens, I was a libertarian before there were any Libertarians, but that’s another matter.
Every time a progressive calls himself a ‘liberal’ it is quite an ironic mistake.
See the preceding comment. If you do not understand the phrase “not mutually exclusive”, there are books and classes that may (or may not) help you.
Unfortunately that term was stolen from the champions of genuine liberalism long ago, as it originally stood for freedom, individualism and capitalism.
Stole? Are you referring to the fact that the Republican Party in the USA decided to try to use the word ‘liberal’ to smear Democrats? That in doing so, they disregarded the liberal wing of their own party? (Well, they’ve been trying to get rid of THAT for some time anyway.) Again, liberal, conservative, republican, and democrat are not mutually exclusive terms. Some big ‘R’ Republicans and big ‘D’ democrats would like people to think that to be the case, but it isn’t.
If you support interventionism and statism you have no right to call yourself a liberal. even hillary clinton understands this. while your looking up what colleges people went to, you should also consider reading some economic history… October 6th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Who said anything about interventionism and statism? You? I defer to the Oxford English Dictionary for a definition of liberal, not you. What does Hilary Clinton have to do with the price of tea in China? I don’t look up what college people went to; regarding Schiff, I came across that in his EuroPacific corporate PR CV.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:18 pmleft liberal progressive libertarian is your term not mine..maybe you dont remember saying that. i would never use such an insane label.
when was bush prosecuted? has he even been indicted? Perhaps if schiff was running against bush you would hope that bush mopped the floor with him. I also agree that the actions of bush are criminal..its just interesting that you hold dodd to some different standard..
I don’t have to say anything about interventionism it is the established policy of both the democrats and republicans. Liberal philosophy and progressive philosophy certainly are mutually exclusive, how can you simultaneously be for both free markets and government controls? How can you be for private property and for the redistribution of wealth? Its a blatant contradiction, if you dont know what a contradiction is you can…oh wait you havent even read this yet…gosh id be a real dick to imply that you were unfamiliar with that term huh? to post another section in your reply that assumes that somehow i have preexisting knowledge of what you wrote just moments before is pretty wacked. Cant i understand it?? i mean..you totally just explained it! Thats cool though, Im sure your a great person.
so the republicans just decided to call democrats liberals one day? i guess it had nothing to do with people like john dewey, betrand russell or other similar thinkers. maybe republicans started calling them that because they began to refer to themselves as liberals?
im no old timer but when the majority of people i come across in my day to day life have no idea what liberalism originally stood for its pretty disheartening. They immediatly associate it with the interventionist policies of the democrats. Interestingly a lot of old timers i talk to do understand the history of the term.
Hillary clinton is a top progressive, this is her opinion on the discussion we are having…right now…and look at that..she agrees with my assessment that they are mutually exclusive..but yea…price of tea in china..good argument. Thats a great way to not address something. you stick with the oxford english dictionary, ill stick with the 200+ years of economists and philosophers who advanced the ideas of individualism freedom and capitalism under the title “Liberalism”. It doesnt matter where you live, find candidates that support genuine liberalism and vote for them!
October 6th, 2009 at 9:04 pmI’m all for bashing this pompous jackass, but credit where credit is due. . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw
October 6th, 2009 at 10:53 pm@ 156. presskidney says: left liberal progressive libertarian is your term not mine..maybe you dont remember saying that. i would never use such an insane label.
No, you probably wouldn’t use such a term because you don’t understand the terms singly or conjointly. Yes, I did use the term, and I certainly remember using it.
when was bush prosecuted? has he even been indicted?
Your reading comprehension skills are rather poor, aren’t they? I’ve already told you that I consider some of the Shrub’s actions criminal, in the sense of making him liable to being charged as a war criminal. Some of us who are veterans, particularly of the early Cold War and Vietnam, have some acquaintance, some training, with regard to the Geneva Conventions. The Geneva Conventions are a treaty, and they happen to be law, because we, our Senate, ratified the treaty; they signed off on it. We had representation in the conferences and assembly that produced the Geneva Convention. The Convention, like other law, cannot be abrogated by executive order; it cannot be undone by executive order. George W. Bush unilaterally dismissed the Convention and ordered the abuse of prisoners in violation of the Convention. Has he been indicted as a result? You know as well as I that he has not. Not having been indicted, he has not been been meeting lawyers in front of judges in a prosecution.
…I also agree that the actions of bush are criminal..its just interesting that you hold dodd to some different standard..
You presume too much in thinking I hold Dodd to a different standard.
I don’t have to say anything about interventionism it is the established policy of both the democrats and republicans.
Then why did you bring up the notion of interventionism?
If you’re speaking of the political parties, it’s Republican and Democratic. There is a difference between republican and Republican, and between democrat and Democrat, and it is implied by whether there is a lower case or upper case (capitol) first letter. A lower case first letter indicates someone who subscribes to a particular philosophy of government and representation, while an upper case first letter indicates a person who is a member of a particular political party and subcribes to that parties policies; those policies may, or may not, have to do with the political philosophy of the same name. That also happens to be true of liberal/Liberal, libertarian/Libertarian, and conservative/Conservative.
Liberal philosophy and progressive philosophy certainly are mutually exclusive, how can you simultaneously be for both free markets and government controls? How can you be for private property and for the redistribution of wealth? Its a blatant contradiction, if you dont know what a contradiction is you can…oh wait you havent even read this yet…gosh id be a real dick to imply that you were unfamiliar with that term huh? to post another section in your reply that assumes that somehow i have preexisting knowledge of what you wrote just moments before is pretty wacked. Cant i understand it?? i mean..you totally just explained it! Thats cool though, Im sure your a great person.
You asserted that liberalism and progressivism are mutually exclusive, so I’ll leave it to you to prove that.
so the republicans just decided to call democrats liberals one day? i guess it had nothing to do with people like john dewey, betrand russell or other similar thinkers. maybe republicans started calling them that because they began to refer to themselves as liberals?
You don’t know much about political history, do you? I’ve been reading political history for some time, probably from a time before you were born.
im no old timer but when the majority of people i come across in my day to day life have no idea what liberalism originally stood for its pretty disheartening. They immediatly associate it with the interventionist policies of the democrats. Interestingly a lot of old timers i talk to do understand the history of the term.
It’s rather obvious you’re not an old timer.
Hillary clinton is a top progressive, this is her opinion on the discussion we are having…right now…and look at that..she agrees with my assessment that they are mutually exclusive..but yea…price of tea in china..good argument. Thats a great way to not address something. you stick with the oxford english dictionary, ill stick with the 200+ years of economists and philosophers who advanced the ideas of individualism freedom and capitalism under the title “Liberalism”. It doesnt matter where you live, find candidates that support genuine liberalism and vote for them!
October 6th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Yes, I probably will stick with the OED. You might check it out sometime; you might learn something. Your library may have a copy. It has more than definitions; it includes entymology and first usage. ‘liberal’ is a good example, so I will quote at lenght;
Adjective and substantive.
(etymology… the word comes from the Latin, via Old French; there are Spanish and Portugese cognates. The Latin root is liber, “free”)
Adjective defs:
1. Originally the distinctive epithet of those ‘arts’ or ’sciences’ that were considered ‘worthy of a free man’; opposed to servile or mechanical … (first usage, 1375 AD.)
2.a. Free in bestowing: bountiful, generous, open-hearted … (first usage, 1387 AD.)
2.b. Of a gift, offer; made without stint. Of a meal, an entertainment, etc, also of a fortune: abundant, ample. (first usage, 1433 AD.)
2.c. Hence occasional of outline, parts of the body, etc. : ample, large. (first usage, 1616 A.)
3.a. Free from restraint; free in speech or action. In 16th-17th centuries often in a bad sense: Unrestrained by prudence or decorum, licentious. (first usage, 1490 AD.)
3.b. Of passage, etc.: Freely permitted, not interfered with. … (first usage, 1530 AD.)
3.c. Of construction or interpretation: Inclining to laxity, indulgence; not rigorous. Also of a translation: Free, not literal. … (first usage, 1778 AD.)
3.d. With agent-noun: that does something copiously, freely. … (first usage, 1668 AD.)
4.a. Free from narrow prejudice; openminded, candid. … (first usage, 1781 AD.)
4.b. Free from bigotry or unreasonable prejudice in favor of traditional opinions or established institutions; open to new ideas or proposals of reform. … (first usage, 1846 AD)
5. Of political opinions: Favorable to constitutional changes and legal or administrative reforms tending in the direction of freedom or democracy. Hence used as the designation of the party holding such opinions, in England or other states; opposed to Conservative. … (first usage, 1801 AD.)
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There are several other enumerated definitions of liberal following #5, but, as you can see, there are four significant definitions for liberal before you get to a strictly political usage, and all four have an initial definitive usage that precedes the usage in the strictly political sense by years, if not decades or centuries.
October 7th, 2009 at 2:02 amDear Peter,
Agreed you are no hero. Agreed, you’re not risking as much as a real soldier. You are just another fool who likes throwing inflammatory speech around in the hopes of scraping up some votes from stupid people.
October 7th, 2009 at 11:33 amWhat I found most interesting about this site and particularly about the people who leave replies are these facts:
1. This is an uneducated group of people. Which of the master works on economics have any of you read? Not much, if anything is my guess.
2. The criticisms that I read don’t have any facts or statistics accociated with them…..or even counter arguments. Peter Schiff wrote a Book in 2005, Which I highly doubt any of you illiterate people have ever read. Had you read his book, you would have a thorough understanding of the economic problems WE ARE ABOUT TO FACE……..THE CRISIS ISN’T OVER DUMB DUMBS.
3.None of you could ever have possibly run a business or a company. You don’t know how to read a General Ledger or a balance sheet. Fact is, you don’t know much at all about the money supply, how the Federal Reserve works or really anything about economics.
In short, you are a rather pathetic group of people…..probably a very poor bank account to go along with a very poor education in matters of history, philosophy of government and certainly economics.
The comments on this blog are mostly 7th grade insults with no substantial intellect involved.
I hope you get inspired to read some books. You all need it
October 7th, 2009 at 2:12 pmFreeMORON I read more books in the morning than you EVER will you brainwashed piece of garbage. I love the way ignorant punks like you come in insult us then snivel like the punks you are that we actually insult people. What an ignoramus you are. There are plenty of smart educated people on this site. YOU are not among them. So what did you hope to accomplish here other than show how stupid you are? Ever read Hume? Chomsky? Herodotus? Berkley? I have read ALL of them. I OWN more political and philosophical books than you have ever read. So stuff your condescension since it doesnt really work with your abject stupidity
October 8th, 2009 at 11:32 amThanks to this post, I got into Peter Schiff and I’m really enjoying what he has to say. The guy actually predicted the financial crisis spot on, while everybody else missed it. This is a big wake up call for me…
Also, the Democrats who posted the first 30 replies are hideous.
Look what you’ve become.
October 8th, 2009 at 3:34 pm