Congressional GOP Fundraising Committee On Pelosi: It’s Time To ‘Put Her In Her Place’
Congressional GOP Fundraising Committee On Pelosi: It’s Time To ‘Put Her In Her Place’
The National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) has a press release today, hitting House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) for having the temerity to express doubts that Democratic members of Congress will support with the troop increase that Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal has recommended for the war in Afghanistan. The release claims that in the past, Pelosi has made “pleas for action in Afghanistan” and is now “backpedaling on Afghanistan amidst increasing criticism from the radical left.” It cites her saying this:
“I’ve also made it clear it’s a very difficult vote to get from the members,” she added. “Their constituents don’t like an escalated war in Afghanistan. They’d like to see a different approach. But let’s see what the president has to say.” (Glenn Thrush, “Pelosi skeptical about Afghan surge, McChrystal,” Politico, 10/05/2009)
Pelosi, of course, is not “backpedaling” in any way. In the first paragraph of the Politico article cited by the NRCC, the reporter notes that Pelosi said she is still “agnostic” on a troop surge; she was simply stating the realities in her party.
So what is the NRCC’s solution to dealing with Pelosi? It wants McChrystal to “put her in her place“:
What place does the NRCC think that this accomplished woman — the first female Speaker of the House in U.S. history — deserves to be in?
I think the place for a woman is at the top of the House of Representatives. It's evidence they long for the days when a woman's place was in the kitchen. Now a woman is third in line for the presidency... But it's not surprising, coming from a party that's 80 percent male and 100 percent white.An NRCC spokesman still insists that Pelosi is "playing out of her league."
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Barefoot, braindead and in the kitchen no doubt. That’s the way Rethugs like their wimmins.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:18 pmAnything the repiggies want should be immediately trampled down.
Those psychotics will do everything possible to get back into power.
They may start murdering opponents soon.
I wouldn’t put anything past the repiggies.
They are all vile lying scum, including the so-called “conservative” trolls who post here regularly.
True “conservatism” has nothing to do with the repiggies these days.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:19 pmHer PLACE is speaker of the House second or third most powerful person in America. YOUR place is out of power and whining. Get over it
October 6th, 2009 at 4:21 pmWe can only wish for the repukes to put in their place…
…unemployed and on the streets.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:22 pmThey want General McChrystal to put Pelosi in her place?
LOL
October 6th, 2009 at 4:23 pmHer place is Speaker of the House and those that are under her should be reminded of their place.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:25 pmDon’t let the blatant sexism shield the latest example of the failure of the wingnuts to comprehend the supremacy of civilian government over the military. No matter how big a boner these clowns get at the sight of a man in uniform, they have to go to Honduras if they want to see a general put a democratically elected leader “in her place”.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:25 pmEugeneDebs beat me to it. I should have read before writing. Great minds do think alike though.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:26 pmGeneral McChrystal serves at the pleasure of the President and is answerable to the American people in the form of our Congress.
As a result, let’s hope that Speaker Pelosi puts McChrystal in his place — which is doing exactly what we effing tell him to do…
October 6th, 2009 at 4:28 pmPut her in her place?
Wow.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:28 pmThe war president knew how to listen to his generals. In fact, Generals Casey and Shinseki couldn’t get the war president to stop listening to them. He truly was an inclusive deciderer.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:28 pmI’m not a big fan of Nancy but, any objective observer has to admire the class she’s shown in dealing with this ridiculous kind of crap from the unhinged right.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:29 pmi think her place is off the table, like impeachment.
she’s been a big disappointment since 2006.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:30 pmNRCC should have John Ensign “put her in her place.” He’s more in line with the party on family values. That isn’t Gen. McCrystal’s line of work, sorry.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:31 pmGotta repeat myself:
These animals won’t be satisfied until they bring us all back to feudalism.
Sorry. But it needs reminding. Some days more than others.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:31 pmI’ve been a fan of Nancy ever since she committed herself to a health reform bill that includes the public option.
And she has said so time and again.
Sure, I’m disappointed, and I’ve certainly criticized her in the past, but she’s coming through for us on this one important issue.
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Thanks , tin man.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:35 pmWhat evangenital said.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:35 pmBigotry and mysogyny: come see the remaining two causes of the GOP, and bring your magnifying glass, to get a better view inside the Republicans flea circus’ “big tent.”
October 6th, 2009 at 4:35 pmconservative guy says [using his little-bitty flea voice):
Nancy Pelosi, the wicked witch of the west.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pmI’m surprised they didn’t call her “shrill”. Maybe she’s being “uppity” for supporting the President. Who, himself, has been called “uppity” and told he should “be put in his place”.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pmconservative guy, frantically working the knobs and levers behind his shower curtain…
October 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pmA fair point, spearNmagicHelmet, and I wouldn’t try to dissuade you. However, one must ask whether taking impeachment off the table was really her decision. We may never know all the chips in play then. The possibilities run from a plain lack of courage and will on the part of Congressional Dems to legitimate concern that 30-40 million Persians and Arabs might take an impeachment as an excuse to erase our forces in the Mideast to outright blackmail and death threats against key players. Like I said, we may never know all the chips that were in play.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pmconservative guy, the oldest diaper-wearer in America. I would know, I have to change them each night before sending him home to momma.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pmevangenital says:
“Anything the repiggies want should be immediately trampled down.”
what they need’s a damn good whacking!
October 6th, 2009 at 4:43 pmAnd, yeah. She’s been disappointing, but not a complete trainwreck. The Dems, and the country, would’ve benefited better from a Tip O’Neill type, unapologetically progressive.
Someone like:
Barney Frank
Henry Waxman
Dennis Kucinich
Earl Blumenauer
Dave Obey
Ah well. We could do worse.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:43 pmI must protest, noseeum. The stupid troll is clearly one of the flying monkeys or enchanted apple trees. Some would argue the Scarecrow on account of the no brain thing but, he was kindhearted and smarter than he gave himself credit for. The flying monkeys were just vile and the apple trees stupidly threw away their only redeeming feature.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:45 pm“tin man” is simply a universal appellation for an empty man.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pmI’m certain it predates the Wizard of Oz.
“Her place” is reality. They ain’t putting anybody else anywhere else at this rate.
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The Dogfather says:
General McChrystal serves at the pleasure of the President and is answerable to the American people in the form of our Congress.
As a result, let’s hope that Speaker Pelosi puts McChrystal in his place — which is doing exactly what we effing tell him to do…
As the person tasked to try to get Afghanistan under control, it’s perfectly reasonable of him to want more troops. The difficulties with doing that have nothing to do with strategy. They have much more to do with the political consequences of miliarily supporting a government that ran an apparently rigged election. Therefore, the overall question is above his pay grade. Of course, he probably understands that, but if he doesn’t present the strategic arguments for increased troop presence, then he’s not doing his job.
It’s the wingnuts who like to pretend that generals are politicians and vice versa. That can be a huge gamble, should the generals in question remember their duty to submit to civilian government and speak out against those who would seek to use them for political pawns.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pmMcChrystal should confess his role in the Pat Tillman cover up if he needs media attention so much.
As a General, your prime duty is to your Commander in Chief.
Nobody else. Not the media, not FoxSuckers, not Billy KKKRistol.
Even Sec/Def Gates said this yesterday. This is McChrystal’s immediate supervisor, by the way.
Nancy Pelosi, like any politician, has to try & please a lot of people. She won’t always succeed.
But…who would you rather have 3rd in command?
DeLay?
Hasturd?
Boner?
I think not!
October 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
conservative guy, the oldest diaper-wearer in America…
Is that REALLY Davind Vitter’s Dad posting here? Geeesh…
October 6th, 2009 at 4:51 pmSo the Neanderthal wing of the Repuggies would like some old fashioned House of Representatives Correction applied to Ms Pelosi?
October 6th, 2009 at 4:51 pmWow! The Republicans have a Misogynist Committee!
October 6th, 2009 at 4:51 pmnoseeum says: “tin man” is simply a universal appellation for an empty man.
Maybe we oughta call him “hollow man” instead? Ah, but then Kevin Bacon would probably get very upset about being equated with the trolls around here…
October 6th, 2009 at 4:53 pmConservaTROLL
Why havent you killed yourself yet? I know you hate America and want to punish us with the excruciating disgust your very existance brings decent Americans but still you are a miserable stupid pile of dogshit why dont you just kill yourself and start over. You are ALWAYS going to be stupid and pathetic. You have nothing in your life EXCEPT stupid and pathetic to look forward to. Just go into the next room and do the right thing
October 6th, 2009 at 4:53 pmSo what is the NRCC’s solution to dealing with Pelosi? It wants McChrystal to “put her in her place.“
Yeah, good luck with that.
Pelosi would whisper the word “Tillman” in the General’s ear, and he’d find himself in HIS place.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:54 pmBecause she’s a woman, no doubt. Let’s put those lying, racist Repubs “in their place”.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:56 pmElBruce
Good insight on Afghanistan. The hard truth is at this point there is no military solution there anymore. We can POUR troops into Afghanistan and it wont help much while, as you pointed out, it looks like we are propping up and disasterous and illigitimate gov. We need to do things that will bring some measure of stability to the PEOPLE in the country. Build some economically strategic roads so they can move products and produce around efficiently. Build some schools so madrassas are not the only alternative for the smart kids. Some hospitals and rural healthcare centers to alleviate some of the misery that country has endured for decades. Some irrigation projects so they can grow something besides opium poppies. This wont be easy. Had we done it in 89 after the Soviets left and our experiment in bringing them into what we called a Vietnam trap succeeded we wouldnt be talking about this now. It isnt a total solution but it is necessary if we want to leave them and expect stability and avoid the resentment the Muslim world sees when we show ONLY military solutions in their part of the world. The truth is there are no easy answers left in Afghanistan
October 6th, 2009 at 5:00 pmDon’t waste time arguing with CONSERVATIVE GUY.
He is one of the dumbest, most clueless pieces of crap on this blog.
Ignore the miserable little fool.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:00 pm‘A Woman’s place is providing leadership to the Men of America’
October 6th, 2009 at 5:01 pm(Because Men have phucked it up for 233 years and counting)
Nancy Pelosi IS in her place, as speaker of the house.
I read the transcript of her interview with Charlie Rose yesterday. It was very informative, free of rhetoric, and in particular, sensitive to national to security without the elitist secrecy we became accustomed to under the bush regime.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:05 pmAs I recall, she pointed out that Obama’s conversations with McChrystal would not be well served by politicizing them.
So, of course, that’s exactly what the NRCC set out to do.
So why are the big bad chicken hawks cowards so afraid of a small marsh mouse?
LOL>>>>>>>> cause they know not only is she smarter and better at what she dose then they ever could or be.
but deep down in side they know whit all there fiber that she can also kick there azzzzzz`s.
Go Nancy
October 6th, 2009 at 5:07 pmI read an interesting analysis of the Wizard of OZ…that had the tin man as representing Industrialization ( No heart)
the Scarecrow as Rural Agriculture (No Brain)
the Lion as Decadent Monarchy (No Courage)…
Unfair Stereotypes, to be sure…But
all these Forces were in play before World War I…when People left the farms for the City, and jobs in Industry.
This was the first Real Paradigm shift in 10,000 years…from agriculture and Feudalism, to the Modern Industrial State.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:08 pmEugeneDebs says:
Good insight on Afghanistan. The hard truth is at this point there is no military solution there anymore. We can POUR troops into Afghanistan and it wont help much while, as you pointed out, it looks like we are propping up and disasterous and illigitimate gov.
Well, actually I think more boots on the ground would actually help a lot. But doing so following a rigged election would be not good.
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EugeneDebs says:
We need to do things that will bring some measure of stability to the PEOPLE in the country. Build some economically strategic roads so they can move products and produce around efficiently. Build some schools so madrassas are not the only alternative for the smart kids. Some hospitals and rural healthcare centers to alleviate some of the misery that country has endured for decades. Some irrigation projects so they can grow something besides opium poppies. This wont be easy.
I agree. But doing so involves moving in more human beings, instead of trying to just monitor the area using planes and Predators. But that’s exactly the kind of “surge” I’m thinking about.
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evangenital says:
Don’t waste time arguing with CONSERVATIVE GUY.
I don’t think of it as arguing with him so much as allowing him to tee up my shot.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:11 pmCan’t say as I recall any Republican of the day calling for Tip O’Neil to be ‘put in his place’…
October 6th, 2009 at 5:11 pmThe republicans already have a place: LAST. Must be fun.
It’s a good thing that they are powerless and that we have a POTUS who actually likes studying all sides of a situation before making a decision.
Anyone remember and hate these words?
“I base many of my decisions on gut instinct.”
AND
“Give me the short version, Condi.”
Too bad the republicans don’t know that Pelosi has no role in the decision on what to do in Afghanistan.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:11 pmBadger says:
I read an interesting analysis of the Wizard of OZ…
The real meaning of the story is quite clear: Glinda punked everybody. Dorothy kills the WWE on arrival, so Glinda immediately forces the ruby slippers on her, forcing a situation that the WWW can’t walk away from. Then she sends her after the Wizard, the slow way. Glinda intentionally created a situation in which Dorothy, the Witch, and/or the Wizard are going to end up dead or gone forever. As it turns out, she nails the hat trick. By the end of it, the Wiz has gone back to whatever dimension he and Dorothy came from and the WWW is dead, leaving Glinda the only supernaturally gifted individual in place to fill the power vacuum and rule Oz with a sequined fist. And she did it all without having to do any of the dirty work. Machiavelli couldn’t have plotted it better himself.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:19 pmCan’t we put right-wingers in their place by transporting them back to 1953?
October 6th, 2009 at 5:25 pmRUCerious says:
Can’t say as I recall any Republican of the day calling for Tip O’Neil to be ‘put in his place’…
There were a lot more sane Republicans in those days, though. It’s not really a fair comparison.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:25 pmElBruce, I read a lot of the other Oz books as a kid. I don’t remember that Glinda set herself up as Autocrat. Still, it does give one pause.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:27 pmBadger says:
“I read an interesting analysis of the Wizard of OZ…”
The characters in the wizard of oz are all archetypal figures.
tin man: no heart, mechanical, unfeeling..
October 6th, 2009 at 5:27 pmcowardly lion: lot’s of bluster, lot’s of threats, always sends someone else into battle first…
straw man: throws out decoys, can’t survive a storm or a fire…
I think it arguable that more troops would help. The key is if we DO increase troop levels it shouldnt be to increase military incursions. They can just slip over to Pakistan and come back. If we increase troops to provide security for the projects I was talking about perhaps that could help. We SHOULD begin to see some help from the Afghanis and less provocation from ragtag fighting units IF they see us trying to build some infrastructure to help the MASSES not the elites in their country. Certainly any course of action is iffy at this point. I am pretty certain that if we look at the problem as one with a strictly military solution we are doomed to eventual failure
October 6th, 2009 at 5:30 pmToto: general nuisance, always underfoot, troll-ish…
October 6th, 2009 at 5:30 pmgummble-bee-itch says:
ElBruce, I read a lot of the other Oz books as a kid. I don’t remember that Glinda set herself up as Autocrat. Still, it does give one pause.
Well, the movie redacts a lot, and I’m just going by that version. In the books, there’s still Ozma to claim the throne, and Glinda never quite manages to do away with her too.
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noseeum says:
tin man: no heart, mechanical, unfeeling..
cowardly lion: lot’s of bluster, lot’s of threats, always sends someone else into battle first…
straw man: throws out decoys, can’t survive a storm or a fire…
The Republican party: all of the above.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:32 pmI don’t trust repugs. Pelosi did give the repugs a present by not impeaching chimpy. I hope she’ll “backpedal” on impeaching the last administration.
From the nrcc’s website|| This is sheer bs. Why bring up the dems? Is it because they stole the “small-amounts-contributors” idea from the dems? Why lie about where from where they get their money? (I highlighed the ridiculousness)
repugs are known idiots.
From the DCCC website:
Surprise! No mention of teabagger.
From the DNC website||
Nope, no hateful message on the DNC website either.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:35 pmI highly recommend the latest issue of Newsweek…which features the Taliban in their own words. I don’t know how they got this material, but it is highly believable and Pertinent to the situation in Afghanistan.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/216235
These are personal accounts of those that are our Enemies in Afghanistan. One thing that stands out, is what a Disasterous Mistake it was to Shift our attention to Iraq. The deadly techniques that our troops are up against were Perfected IN and transferred FROM the Jihadi University of Iraq.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:37 pm“An NRCC spokesman still insists that Pelosi is “playing out of her league.”
Yeah, she’s in the big league.
Not the one the NRCC is in…
“You finished whittling out that bat yet, Kenny Spain?”
October 6th, 2009 at 5:48 pm“Almost… oww… sh!t… now look what you made me do!”
This is sexism
Glinda the good witch: smoking hot:
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/askville/291827_5161944_mywrite/glinda.jpg
The term ‘put her in her place’ comment could come from sexism, but the similar comment is used all the time in regards to men:
Results 1 – 10 of about 140,000,000 for ‘put him in his place’. (0.33 seconds)
Here’s GWB putting Dick Cheney in his place:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090601/bushcheney_video
October 6th, 2009 at 5:50 pmYou’re floundering, Cap’n…
October 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pmMcChrystal has to go for allowing the Afghanistan report to leak and trying to force Obama to push for more troops. Pelosi does not need to do anything. The Republicans and the general are trying to force the increase without regard to what Obama and the Congress want. Fire the general and let the civilian government do their job.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:16 pm“I’ve also made it clear it’s a very difficult vote to get from the members,” she added. “Their constituents don’t like an escalated war in Afghanistan. They’d like to see a different approach. But let’s see what the president has to say.”
We can’t leave and we can’t have an increase in troops. So we are going to leave our troops there, understaffed, as targets.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:17 pmBring our people home.
The underlying structure of this notion is the same as the newsmax article hoping for a ‘military coup’ to ’solve the Obama problem’: the GOP is a totalitarian leaning organization that has utter contempt for democracy.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:22 pmIt’s a proven fact that republican men are scared to death of strong women.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:30 pmThe people who are advocating an increase in troops know full well that once they are committed, we will need to keep increasing the number. This has happened in every military action. I prefer that Obama make a decision based on an intelligent policy instead of using brute force. There are many reasons for getting out of Afghanistan. We will never be able to bring stability to the area with porous borders. Hence, we need to figure out a way to bring in enough of the Taliban to keep stability in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:31 pmA little fear of strong women is healthy:
http://www.guzer.com/pictures/funny_muscle_lady.php
October 6th, 2009 at 6:46 pmPelosi was a horrible speaker of the house under Bush.
She could have made W’s life a nightmare and instead she played nice.
I can not wait for her to be replaced.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:58 pmSwing and a miss, b-kup.
The phrase to “put one in one’s place” is always, regardless of context, meant to denote relegating someone to a lower station.
Sexism, racism, religious or other, it’s meant to reinforce their prejudices and feelings of “exceptionalism”.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:58 pmbackup says:
A little fear of strong women is healthy:
October 6th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Respect — that’s all. Thanks.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:58 pmKayInMaine says:
It’s a proven fact that republican men are scared to death of strong women.
I don’t mean to quibble but, they’re afraid of everything.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:59 pmpete says:
Swing and a miss, b-kup.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
The Captain’s life story, my friend. ;)
October 6th, 2009 at 7:00 pmI don’t know why I so enjoy pointing it out, Zooey. I guess I just like cracking the facade of reason to get at the indefensible BS underneath.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:04 pmMale repugsniscum are fraidy cats – typical bullies, they attempt to hide their cowardice and feel strong when they are putting someone else down, particularly a woman (or a minority).
October 6th, 2009 at 7:22 pmFemale repugniscum are not so scared – they’ve been living with the bullies long enough – they are brainwashed. (Stockholm Syndrome?) They have adopted the philosophy of their “leader” and have adapted – to their own detriment, and that of their party and sex.
It’s sad to see those “prim and proper” women so disrespectful of themselves.
Nancy Pelosi is a threat to both sexes of repugs.
So Pelosi is “backpedaling on Afghanistan amidst increasing criticism from the radical left.” So by the radical left they mean the three fourths of the country that doesn’t think we should escalate in Afghanistan? I realize it’s quaint for legislators to consider the opinions of the electorate, but if there was any progressive will left in the Democrats, you’d think they could get something done, or at least prevent the whack job right from controlling the conversation.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:26 pmMcChrystal has a checkered past (Tillman and Abu Grahib made me skeptical of Obama’s selecting him), and I question his abilities, integrity and loyalty. He also spoke out of turn (chain of command?) and went public when he should have kept his thoughts private. He disrespected the president and I hope he got his ears full when he met Obama in Copenhagen last week. Obama won’t embarrass McChrystal – but Gates might. For anyone to suggest that McChrystal show Pelosi her place is ludicrous.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:27 pmIncredibly inappropriate.
I agree. But, when it’s used on men, it’s not sexism.
So, how are you confident that the use in regards to Pelosi is sexism?
October 6th, 2009 at 7:29 pmShe’s already in her place; Speaker of the House. Pretty good place; no need for you arse-wipes to change that.
An NRCC spokesman still insists that Pelosi is “playing out of her league.”
Not exactly, Mr. NRCC spokesdude; you guys are playing insult T-ball while she’s in the Majors. She’s definitely playing out of and way above your league.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:30 pmBadger, I have my Newsweek from the mailbox now, I will be sure to follow your advice.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:36 pmbtw, the analysis you provided concerning the Wizard of Oz, is indeed interesting. I vaguely remember that in the time that book was written, there was speculation about it being an allegory, or something more political than was on its face.
I will have to do some research.
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“Congressional GOP Fundraising Committee On Pelosi: It’s Time To ‘Put Her In Her Place’”
Let me get this straight. The Party of Neanderthals want McChrystal to put Pelosi in her place??? LMAO! The GOP party has nothing but empty ideas and time on their hands. Stay classy, GOP.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:57 pmRepublican projectionism is their give away. It’s their tell. Republicans are truely despicable and that cannot be hidden for long. [thankfully]
October 6th, 2009 at 7:57 pmSP Biloxi says:
hahahahh. shows how much Republicans know about sepeation of powers. Ha!
October 6th, 2009 at 8:00 pmApe-Man sez:
And I concur. Simply priceless.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:15 pmTime for McChrystal to be FIRED – TODAY!!!! AND his boss, Betrayus, as well..
THEN, Holder can file a conspiracy to commit murder case against McCrystal for Tillman’s death; THEN Holder can file War Crimes charges against him for Abu Grahib…SO, the republican savior will be a bit busy FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE IN THE HAGUE !!! Scum Bag….and these phony republican automatons.. hopefully they follow Bachmann out in the middle of an expressway soon…
October 6th, 2009 at 8:18 pmb-kup.
I’m not convinced that it’s sexism in this instance. The particular “ism” is irrelevant. It’s an example of the xenophobia and exclusionary nature of the GOP. It’s an implication that only their group is “worthy” of leadership. It’s dangerous and stupid.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:22 pmI truly love Debbie Wasserman Schultz……she totally gets it.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:11 pmThe Republican’s can be noted for 2 primary lapses the 8 years under Bush.
They refused to listen to the Generals until they had no choice.
The congress provided no oversight over Bush’s conduct of his wars.
Why is now so imperative to “listen” to the generals” without the oversight of Congress now?
October 6th, 2009 at 9:34 pmPelosi is fulfilling the role as house leader, and far more effectively than her predecessor.
I would say the primary lapse, though not a harsh enough word, was the decision to invade Iraq for no good reason.
October 6th, 2009 at 10:09 pmpete says:
b-kup.
I’m not convinced that it’s sexism in this instance. The particular “ism” is irrelevant. It’s an example of the xenophobia and exclusionary nature of the GOP. It’s an implication that only their group is “worthy” of leadership. It’s dangerous and stupid.
Right, and so much worse because it involves elevating a member of the military over a member of congress.
October 6th, 2009 at 10:47 pmDebbie nailed it! Nancy Pelosi is hated by the GOP because she’s not Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman. Nancy has a brain and bigger nads and more power than any of the big men with tiny members in the GOP. They hate all women with power and the fact that they’re 80% male and 100% white says it all. This is why we Dems will continue to kick their asses for years to come. To the men of the GOP….don’t bother looking down. You don’t have any lead left in your pencils!
October 6th, 2009 at 10:51 pmAnd yes, the General needed to be put in his place and Obama took care of that aboard AirForce One on Friday and Pelosi smacked his ass down on Charlie Rose last night. If the General wants to affect policy he’ll have to run for office. He can forget about winning because we Dems don’t and won’t vote for warmongering military men who think more troops is the answer to all of our problems.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:02 pmMany Presidents have been judged by their management of generals. Washington, Lincoln, F.D.R., and Truman lead to mind. How soon the GOoPers forget. Bush 41 is still admired for his handling of the Gulf war. He put, arguably, the best commanders in charge and gave them free reign. One can argue motives all one likes, the Gulf War was a military masterpiece.
41’s idiot son, on the other hand, systematically fired Generals who were politically problematical instead of “mission oriented”. (Whatever the Hell “mission oriented” was supposed to mean in reference to generals who faithfully command men in battle. It’s one of the inane Bushisms that stuck with me.) And even succeeded in sending Colin Powell in front of the U.N to lie as justification for war. (On a side note, perhaps the most compelling question in the run up to war is how much Powell really knew and how much disinformation he was fed. I suspect the answer will go to the grave with him.)
This has lead to President Obama facing the problem of assessing who among his generals are competent and which are Bushbots. That’s no small task especially when the DOJ and courts are full of Bushbots as well. And he has to put his house in order while trying to avoid justifying the inevitable ranting about how he is “purging the government and military just like Stalin” while trying to extricate us from two unsustainable military occupations.
And that, of course, is the Catch22 the Reichwhiners are exploiting. Any action Obama takes will be vilified, that’s a given. Like it or not, he must consider the political risk in everything and has to avoid giving the opposition real ammunition. It wouldn’t take much of a disaster to start a feeding frenzy.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pmIsn’t it General McChrystal who needs to be put in his place. I don’t remember Nancy Pelosi making ultimatums about military decisions to the Commander in Chief.
October 7th, 2009 at 9:22 amWHERE are all those ’so called’ woman’s groups? They should be out in full force against comments like this. ARE they all filled with republicans?
October 7th, 2009 at 10:45 amSee “Wicked.” Heh heh. Completely new take for me about those beloved characters.
October 7th, 2009 at 4:44 pmThey say Nancy Pelosi’s economic policies are failed.
That, coming from the Republicans who sent us into our current situation, IS TOO MUCH.
But they get away with it, because “failed Republican economic policies” is all too rarely heard.
October 7th, 2009 at 7:20 pmThank you for your sharing.!
October 11th, 2009 at 5:07 pmBut there are positive signs for the GOP, including in August when it raised more money. karin ameliyatlari
October 13th, 2009 at 6:16 am