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Coburn Wants To Dump Political Science Funding Since Americans Can Just ‘Turn To CNN, Fox News, MSNBC’

Tom Coburn Yesterday, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) introduced an amendment that would bar the National Science Foundation (NSF) from “wasting federal research funding on political science.” Coburn argues that these political sciences issues “have little, if anything, to do with science.” From his amendment:

The largest award over the last 10 years under the political science program has been $5.4 million for the University of Michigan for the “American National Election Studies” grant. The grant is to “inform explanations of election outcomes.” The University of Michigan may have some interesting theories about recent elections, but Americans who have an interest in electoral politics can turn to CNN, FOX News, MSNBC, the print media, and a seemingly endless number of political commentators on the internet who pour [sic] over this data and provide a myriad of viewpoints to answer the same questions.

Coburn adds, “Theories on political behavior are best left to CNN, pollsters, pundits, historians, candidates, political parties, and the voters, rather than being funded out of taxpayers’ wallets.” His argument is like saying that schools should just have students watch Jim Cramer on CNBC instead of teaching economics.

Part of Coburn’s objections seem political, as Henry at Crooked Timber points out. As examples of the way the NSF has wasted its money, Coburn cites a study that found the United States is increasingly willing to torture terrorism suspects and research by Nobel-Prize winning economist Paul Krugman. Today on his blog, Krugman responded to Coburn:

I can’t quite remember when I last received NSF support, but it has to be at least 20 years ago — and it was, of course, for work on international trade, work that, you know, won me a Clark Medal and that other prize. So the standard seems to be that if anyone ever supported by the NSF expresses liberal political opinions decades later, that discredits the program.

But much worse is the way Coburn singles out support for the American National Election Studies as a boondoggle. As I said, I’m not a political scientist — but I’ve done enough data-surveying to know that the ANES is a treasure trove of information that can’t be found anywhere else — certainly not, as Coburn suggests, on CNN, Fox, and MSNBC. Of course, it’s obvious from what Coburn says that neither he nor anyone on his staff even bothered to look at what the ANES does.

Robert Lowry, a professor of political science at the University of Texas at Dallas, further explained the difference between the social science and the punditry: “I tell my undergraduate students, There’s a difference between arguing over pizza at 3 a.m. and doing actual hypothesis-testing. CNN has a lot of smart people, but at best it’s all a very short-term cycle. They chew over the results from last night’s election, and by the next week they’re on to something else.”

The Chronicle of Higher Education notes that in 1995, a House committee approved a bill that would have eliminated nearly all the social science programs from the NSF, and Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) introduced a similar measure three years ago. The American Political Science Association is now asking people to contact senators to show support for their social science.



116 Responses to “Coburn Wants To Dump Political Science Funding Since Americans Can Just ‘Turn To CNN, Fox News, MSNBC’”

  1. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Jeebus. I used to think Coburn was the brighter of the two OK senators.

    He and Inhofe are obviously in a race to the bottom. A comment like that wouldn’t surprise me coming from one of our stupider trolls. But from a US Senator?

    Oy.


  2. glogrrl says:

    Ya vol, mein Fuhrer!!


  3. Rab says:

    Coburn is down and dirty ignorant.


  4. Rich H says:

    What a day on TP. I usually read for some good laughs and smack downs. But the right wing insanity has just been dumping today.


  5. EugeneDebs says:

    Stop begging us to pity you Benny. We know you are stupid and pathetic. You can move on and parade your stupidity to someone else now. Just STFU and let the adults talk


  6. Rab says:

    TP has it’s own version of Wingnuttiapalooza today. Can’t swing a dead repug today without hitting the cream of the nutjobs.


  7. Purple State says:

    From what I can gather about ANES, it seems to me that this is the difference between a school report and debate club. Reports need to be produced in order to provide ammunition for the debates.

    There is so much that you can produce on televised and print media without having to delve into conjecture and assumption. I would rather be funding a department that has proved itself to be a “gold standard”.


  8. Purple State says:

    Rab, it’s been harder and harder to tell the difference between the serious and parody trolls today.

    (Although I highly doubt I can consider any troll as “serious” sometimes…)


  9. EugeneDebs says:

    Benny. Your posts will go straight to the sewer where they belong so its useless to continue to beg us for pity. It doesnt matter how stupid and pathetic you are. No post. No pity and yours will be gone soon. You are wasting your time. You arent clever. You will never BE clever. You are stupid. You are pathetic. You will always BE stupid and pathetic. Time to come to terms with your handicap


  10. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Senate rules need to be changed so that the GOP can pass its legislation with only 10 votes, while the demlibs would need 75. Since the GOP’s legislation is inherently pro-American, the inconvenience of a majority vote is unnecessary.


  11. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Benjamin Turnbull Rand

    YYYAAARGH! OK, you succeeded, I’m outta here!


  12. Buckie Boy says:

    If you want to stay informed…TV ain’t it.


  13. Rab says:

    I agree Purple State on the flood of trolls, can’t imagine how crazy they will be when health care gets passed.


  14. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  15. P.D. says:

    Isn’t a Repug going to the Global Warming gathering overseas to chide the members of the Global community about the ‘Farce’ that is Global warming? These guys are nuts.


  16. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  17. P.D. says:

    This place is crawling with trolls. Later people.


  18. EugeneDebs says:

    Duke puts another bit of stupid into play. You DO understand that you are astonishingly stupid dont you Duke?


  19. EugeneDebs says:

    Benny. No matter how stupid and pathetic you are. There is no pity here for you. STFU


  20. Mr.Duke says:

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  21. Rodeskawler says:

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  22. Mr.Duke says:

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  23. Badmoodman says:

    Coburn Wants To Dump Political Science Funding Since Americans Can Just ‘Turn To CNN, Fox News, MSNBC’

    – - Oklahoma with Coburn, Inhofe, et al are doing MORE than their share in the dumbing-down of America.


  24. Luis Chapulin M says:

    Rodeskawler says:
    I didn’t realize politics was a science, since it is rarely based on facts.

    It’s like military music’s relationship to music. You either blow, or you have to do a lot of banging.


  25. Purple State says:

    I don’t think you’d get any help there, Duke.

    I mean, to get a Chicago politician to do that? They’re not going to let go of the 60-vote threshold. They’ve got this thing and it’s f–king golden, and, uh, uh, they’re just not giving it up for f–king nothing. They’re not gonna do it.


  26. noseeum says:

    “Can we spare a log for the taxpayer money wasted fire?”

    Before you start looking at the splinter in my eye, take the log out of yours.


  27. EugeneDebs says:

    Duke. You are so stupid and brainwashed you would have made one of Pavlovs dogs look like an iconoclast. Is GORE the subject of this thread? Why no he isnt but pathetic punkass troll that you are you just want to push the propaganda that you are programmed with. You are a stupid pile of dogshit. IF Gore convinces ONE country to cut down their greenhouse gasses then he will save a thousand times the energy he used. Why dont you just STFU and stop embarassing yourself. All you show is you have NO brain and regurgitate the stupid Rush TOLD you to think. You cells of the Limborg hivemind are the stupidest most brainwashed morons on the planet


  28. Rab says:

    Coburn is like all repugs, proud of his ignorance. I keep my optimism for America but with clowns like this I sometimes wonder if this country is doomed.


  29. noseeum says:

    “– – Oklahoma with Coburn, Inhofe, et al are doing MORE than their share in the dumbing-down of America.”

    I rather think they are the consummate product of it.


  30. kwsventures says:

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  31. politication says:

    This is terrible. The last thing we need is *less* unbiased information about politics. It’s like Coburn thinks that what goes on in Political Science departments is just like the media, which only talk about the latest thing and seem to have no institutional memory at all. In my opinion, there is nothing that affects the lives of people more deeply than politics (whether they care about politics or know anything about politics or not) and to defund the scientific, objective research of it would be a travesty.


  32. tom says:

    I think Little Tommy Coburn is onto something there. Just think of all the money we can save.

    Don’t need no stinkin’ medical school or education funding. Folks can always turn on “Gray’s Anatomy”, “House”, “Nip and Tuck”, etc.

    Don’t need no law enforcement education funding. Folks can always turn on “CSI Miami”, “CSI”, “CSI New York”, “CSI East Tennis Shoe”, etc.

    The list could go on and on!


  33. kwsventures says:

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  34. Purple State says:

    Eugene, just calm down. They disappear after 10 votes. Don’t let them get to you.


  35. Jack Jett says:

    Tom Coburn
    Professional Mediator
    Upscale Hookers
    Mormon Horn Toads
    Money Sucking Hypocrites
    K Street Clown and Money Launderers


  36. kwsventures says:

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  37. EugeneDebs says:

    I am here Dr Venture. Jonesing to get punked again? I can slap the stupid out of you anytime you want you punkass troll


  38. noseeum says:

    kwsventures says:
    “Everyone has an agenda. Some are blatant. Others are subtle.”

    You’re being rather subtle this evening yourself.
    Kudos!

    starting out easy?


  39. EugeneDebs says:

    No one is getting to me Purplestate. I have no emotional investment here. I amuse myself. I consider trollstabbing to be a moral imperative. I am not even in the neighborhood of upset. They dump contempt on us. I dump it back. Its like seesaw and only a bit more entertaining


  40. Fred says:

    coburn can’t find his ass with both hands. If the only thing a fool can take credit for is stopping what the majority want then what kind of ass do you have to be?

    coburn is a boil on the ass of America.


  41. Wiz says:

    A well educated populus is bad for the Repubs, and it is clear they understand this. They have a long history of fighting against funding for education. They also have a history of anti-science and including religious training in public schools. Take vouchers they want to give parents checks to go to private schools, taking away funding for a larger population of students, whose parents could not afford private school even with a voucher. This systematic dumbing down, makes voters easy targets to the kind of fear and lies that we have seen so much over the health care debate.


  42. Purple State says:

    kws, as much as you might not like political science, I’m afraid Coburn’s inference to let pundits run wild on political electoral theory doesn’t gel with me. The fact that ANES is run by two colleges (Michigan and Stanford) gives me a little more belief it is unbiased, and I would rather have people who have learned a little something about political theory to be the ones running such studies than the likes of television personalities.

    Or am I reading this wrong?


  43. wisdomofwords says:

    That’s right Coburn, keeping the people stupid as to how the government works, allows you to control them.


  44. noseeum says:

    EugeneDebs says:
    “I have no emotional investment here. I amuse myself.”

    That’s all well and fine, yet sometimes we are not amused…


  45. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Fred says:

    coburn can’t find his ass with both hands.
    __________

    If Coburn’s looking for an ass, just tell him to go to #43.

    He’ll find a BIG one waiting for him…


  46. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    ginslinger says:

    … it’s going to snow there by this weekend, that’ll get those little darlings off of the streets.
    __________

    Not to worry… word on the street says your wife’s invited them all over, while you’re working the graveyard shift at the local 7/11…


  47. conservative guy says:

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  48. susancarrie says:

    Their ignorance is so pathetic. What is he expecting (I hate to think) CNN and FOX to “pour” over this data, anyway? (The word which has escaped him here is “pore”)

    And we are governed by these yahoos….


  49. Fred says:

    ginslinger says:
    And it looks like Obama’s gang strike force is solving the black on black violence problem in Chicago, it’s going to snow there by this weekend, that’ll get those little darlings off of the streets.

    By the time Obama’s 8 years are over those folks will be living a better and less violent life.

    bigots like you create ghetto’s and then stand back and laugh about it.

    You’re about as transparent as saran wrap and the absolutely lowest form of life on the planet.


  50. dannylauve says:

    Par for the Republican course. Why have all those documented facts floating around when you can just let FOX write history? Kinda like this re-writing the Bible, Republican style project………..


  51. Fred says:

    conservative guy says:
    A waste of taxpayer funds.

    Another bushie who likes to pretend that he knows waste when he sees it.

    Willfully blind when a republican borrows into the biggest hole in US history as they always do, but dog gone it, they don’t want any money spent to make life better for Americans. Not one thin dime by god.


  52. EugeneDebs says:

    ConservaTROLL

    Havent you killed yourself YET? Just go do the right thing you useless pile of dogshit


  53. Old Uncle Dave says:

    The corporate overlords don’t want people to learn how to think for themselves. It threatens the bottom line.


  54. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    dannylauve says:

    Kinda like this re-writing the Bible, Republican style project………..
    ____________

    “And Adam begat BEAT Eve… ’cause she wouldn’t shut the F up and stay in the f-in’ kitchen, where she belonged…

    And it was good…


  55. Ape-Man says:

    Is there no bottom to the stupidness of the Republicans? I think not!


  56. WillWrite4Food says:

    It’s obvious Coburn doesn’t believe in facts, science or empirical reasoning. This is Sen. Guns In Parks, who just parroted “liberty! self-defense! Second Amendment!” without considering the real world consequences of such a policy or the opinions of those it directly affects.

    Coburn’s politics are summed up as: fetuses have a right to bear arms to protect themselves from abortion doctors.


  57. EdgeOnIt says:

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  58. flight says:

    Coburn may be on to something. Political Science attempts to put into context political dynamics. The present dynamics of the Republican Party are fear mongering and race bating.
    The projection of his comments leaves no doubt concerning Coburns attitudes toward the American system of Government.

    There isn’t much to study with the Republican Party, who would want to.


  59. MapleStreet says:

    And these are the people that say our kids need more civics and get involved ?

    But if they get involved without any theoretical underpinings of govt and the knowledge of how to analyze political events, they will be adrift in the sea of whoever can scare them the most.

    Oh. You say that’s the plan. Never mind.


  60. evangenital says:

    Allowing non-educated bumpkins like Coburn to exercise any “controls” over education is akin to allowing the inmates to run the prison, or the patients the hospital.

    Jesus, are all these repiggies so damned stupid?


  61. P.D. says:

    Why do Repugs hate science? It is the building block of our world. Interest in science created vaccines, medical breakthoughs. I believe in God, but God helps those who help themselves.


  62. Fred says:

    P.D. says:
    Why do Repugs hate science?

    science = intelligent thought = repugs worst fear

    How can they rationalize ignoring climate change and the fact that homosexuality is not a choice if they embrace science?


  63. Duke LaCross says:

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  64. P.D. says:

    Fred@71, Yeah, you’re right. I forgot who I was talking about didn’t I?


  65. Fred says:

    Duke LaCross says:
    I’m tired of sick people.

    Then health care reform should be right up your ally.


  66. Winski says:

    Coburn doesn’t need anything in Oklahoma. As soon as the project to fill up the state with concrete and pave over Coburn – he doesn’t need anything…

    Coburn gets to live in the “C” street house on the taxpayers dime so what does he care…All that concerns him is that he continues to convert folks to his way of thinking so they can be controlled. This man is a useless creep.


  67. Duke LaCross says:

    I don’t care much for bowling either.


  68. Fred says:

    P.D. says:
    Fred@71, Yeah, you’re right. I forgot who I was talking about didn’t I?

    Yeah PD, I mean anyone that can rationalize jesus into a war monger and torturer is not interested in facts, right?


  69. tombaker says:

    ” Never mind what I say, or what my party does – just loooook intooooo the screeeeeennn….”

    the Public seems to be getting “a little too uppity” for mr. coburn’s tastes…

    he didn’t sign up for any of that.

    just money.


  70. Levi the Oracle says:

    This is yet another example of how fascist the Republican Party has become. There are fourteen defining characteristics of fascism. The eleventh is “disdain for intellectuals and the arts”.

    Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

    America must never again allow fascist Republicans to control any aspect of our government. They must be voted out of every position, at every level of government. They need to be charged with the crimes they commit, and imprisoned for life.


  71. P.D. says:

    Fred@78, The Righties insistence on changing the Bible because it is ‘Liberal’ (???) is astonishing to me. When the Bible was written, I’m sure Feminism and Liberals were the last thing on the authors minds. In fact, I find the whole thing an affront to Christianity. The Repugs have no problem when it comes to rewritting history don’t they?


  72. Uncle Fester Lurks says:

    Me thinks Senator Coburn should just stick to negotiating deals for his co-hearts marital affairs.


  73. P.D. says:

    Uncle@82, LOL! I noticed the MSM failed to mention that… Although I heard a lot abour Letterman…


  74. Uncle Fester Lurks says:

    Well if the republicans are going to be re-writing the bible I’m sure we can see this change…

    The love of money is the path to righteousness — Bachmann 2:11

    Greed is good — Limbaugh 3:23

    Money Trumps Peace — GW.Bush 6:66


  75. Uncle Fester Lurks says:

    Duke likes the thought of death panels. Probably dreams of boxcars full of the the sick, the poor, the elderly, the liberals, gay people, blacks, immigrants,…on route to the gas chambers.


  76. Duke LaCross says:

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  77. okie dokie says:

    I’m sure Coburn would like to rewrite some of his political history.
    He got into office by having one of his registered Democrat friends run against encumbent Mike Synar in the ‘94 primary.
    Virgil Cooper, a retired high school principal,was backed by the tobacco industry Synar had been opposing and the NRA.
    Cooper won by a 51-49 margin, and handed Coburn the general election.
    It’s become common here for republicans to register as dems,
    just so they can throw the primary.
    Classic republican underhanded political science.


  78. katy says:

    O… P.D. @81 – reminds me…

    this morning mary lacewing posted a link to this:
    What Jesus probably looked like

    and one of the comments, from years ago!, sounds like the founder of the ‘newer new testament’ movement:

    151. RE: Real Face Of Jesus: December 2002 Cover Story

    He doesn’t look like this. He’s about 5f6in tall, stocky not scrawny build. Exceptional health. I have seen him with his hair tied back. A fair bit of body and facial hair, a mistache. The sandals he is said to have worn are accurate. He is a serious person with olive skin and very black eyes centred under a generous forehead and there are signs of piercing intelligence and urgency in his look. I believe since he started to appear to me that he wants to change the scriptures. The message i have received from him says that they are false. [...]

    ooo-kay…


  79. okie dokie says:

    katy@10:31pm

    Your picture looks more like Ahmadinejad than Hollywood Jesus.

    Some Iranians now are claiming their president is actually Jewish.


  80. Gary Herstein says:

    Interesting that the copy of the Constitution and Declaration of Independence that Coburn waves around has never been opened. I’ve the same edition — from the Pueblo folks. Mine is presently held together with packing tape.


  81. Zooey says:

    I usually question why doctors become politicians, but in Coburn’s case, I’m truly happy he’s not seeing patients.

    Dude is seriously stupid.


  82. AaronQ of Maine says:

    Why do we have senators like this? BEcause they have dumb voters in their state. Educating voters (i.e. political science) is going to hurt them. The Republicans hate giving out money to people that need it, but its fine with them to spend trillions on illegal wars.I really wish politicians weren’t so freakling evil to the core.


  83. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Mr.Duke says:

    “I’m going to use every right-wing talking point I can, regardless of the topic of the thread.”


  84. e_to_the_pOTATO BUG says:

    Well, obviously he doesn’t see the point of poly sci classes, when he and about 35% of the legislature slept through theirs.


  85. RUCerious says:

    Tom, would you please hook up with your friend ‘Jim from Oklahoma’ and secede from the union. Asap. You think that poli-sci is something about multiple dinoaurs anyway, so scoot, outcha go…


  86. Lora says:

    Ralph, Coburn may even be the brighter of the two Okie Senators, but unfortunately that isn’t saying much. Together they seriously bring down the mean IQ of the US Senate. While I am sure there are some voters in Oklahoma who feel embarrassed by these two dimwits, I’ve gotten so disgusted with them that I can’t even bear to hear songs from the musical “Oklahoma,” which I used to like.

    ralph the wonder llama says:
    Jeebus. I used to think Coburn was the brighter of the two OK senators.
    He and Inhofe are obviously in a race to the bottom. A comment like that wouldn’t surprise me coming from one of our stupider trolls. But from a US Senator?
    Oy.


  87. Lora says:

    If you’re talking about Coburn’s salary, I agree.

    conservative guy says:
    A waste of taxpayer funds.


  88. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Rodeskawler says:

    I didn’t realize politics was a science, since it is rarely based on facts.

    This is why we need to increase funding for education.


  89. SP Biloxi says:

    “Coburn Wants To Dump Political Science Funding Since Americans Can Just ‘Turn To CNN, Fox News, MSNBC’’

    Something in the water in Oklahoma. Stay classy Tom.


  90. AaronQ of Maine says:

    no lora, they bring down the average IQ. The mean is the number that would evenly split the senate into 2 groups. Sorry to correct you, don’t mean to be rude.


  91. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Isn’t Coburn the one who said that high school bathrooms in his state were being overrun by rampant lesbianism? Is there any reason in the world to take anything he says seriously?


  92. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Rachel Maddow has a PhD in Political Science. Maybe that’s why he hates the subject.


  93. Zooey says:

    AaronQ of Maine says:

    no lora, they bring down the average IQ. The mean is the number that would evenly split the senate into 2 groups. Sorry to correct you, don’t mean to be rude.
    October 9th, 2009 at 12:39 am

    You’re describing the median.

    Sorry to nitpick. :)


  94. AaronQ of Maine says:

    Oh yeah, you bested me, I am slain, good night.


  95. Virtual Pebble says:

    Hey, makes sense to me. Coburn probably got his MD by watching “Marcus Welby, MD”, “General Hospital”, and did his residency by watching “ER”.

    Heck, who needs that politico-social studies and data analysis stuff anyway; folks might learn something and get uppity about it.


  96. Zooey says:

    AaronQ of Maine says:

    Oh yeah, you bested me, I am slain, good night.
    October 9th, 2009 at 12:52 am

    I didn’t mean to “best” you, merely pointed out a common error.

    I’m currently up to my frickin’ eyeballs in statistics for a research paper, so it kind of jumped out for me.

    Peace.


  97. okie dokie says:

    Coburn’s undergraduate degree is in accounting.
    Could explain his obsession with “unnecessary expenses”,
    although he usually doesn’t open his mouth
    unless it’s under the command of “the family”
    or his corporate sponsors, like the NRA or corporate healthcare.
    The introduction of this amendment, and his czar obsession is a lame diversion strategy.
    Say what you want about Oklahoma.
    Nobody wants to be played for a fool.
    Least of all the citizens of a state that was founded
    by Indian nations that were manipulated to refugee status
    for U.S. government convenience.


  98. glogrrl says:

    This from the senator of the state that’s passing legislation to require women to answer a series of questions about whether they have had an abortion, miscarriages, pregnancies and intimate details concerning their IDs and reproductive lives FOR THE RECORD!! A blatant disregard of the HIPAA laws and medical confidentiality. THIS state needs to secede and that this neanderthal senator with them.


  99. Perry logan says:

    The Right has no need for political science because they’ve got right-wing think tanks. :)

    For a fee, any of the countless right-wing think tanks, such as the Heritage Foundation, will prove whatever you tell them to prove.

    Whatever you want–tax cuts for the rich help the economy, deregulation works wonders, there is no global climate chage, etc. Whatever you want to believe, these guys will prove it.

    And it’ll get printed up to look really academic. (Peer review is for squares.)

    An exhaustive study of everything every right-wing think tank has ever produced proves conclusively that the right has always right about everything. And as a corollary, the left has always been wrong.

    Kick in a few more bucks, and they’ll prove it all again. Ain’t science great? :)

    A Pig of a Bill


  100. dixie blood says:

    kwsventures,

    If this is not your company, listed below, then I have a feeling they would like for you to stop using their company name.

    KWS Ventures
    5247 Mare Creek Dr
    Crestview, FL 32539-8887(Fort Walton Beach, FL Metro Area)
    Phone: (850) 423-0606

    Care to comment and tell the truth for a change?


  101. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize
    President Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for “his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples,” the Norwegian Nobel Committee said, citing his outreach to the Muslim world and attempts to curb nuclear proliferation.

    Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.

    I’m sorry, but let’s just call this what it is – the Nobel Prize for Not Being George W. Bush.

    Far as I know, our nuclear arsenal is just as big as it was on January 20, and so is Russia’s, the UK’s, China’s, Israel’s, India’s, and Pakistan’s. We’re no closer to a Mideast peace deal, Guantanamo and Bagram are still open for business, we’re still occupying Iraq, still killing civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan, we’re pushing through a toothless cap-and-trade deal, we’re barely talking to Iran, not talking at all to Cuba, and we just snubbed the Dalai freakin Lama.

    Does our President have good intentions? I think so. Candidate Obama certainly did. But that’s not enough to merit a Peace Prize, nine months into a first term. You need some achievements first. It’s like giving the Physics Prize to the Higgs Boson, or the Literature Prize to some guy who scribbled a great book idea on a bar napkin.

    That said, I congratulate our President for this honor. I hope it will inspire him to set his sights a bit higher for the rest of his time in office.


  102. dixie blood says:

    My problem is trying to figure out who is the dumbest Senator.

    Colburn? Ensign? Grassley? Specter? Hatch? Nelson? Baucus? etc. etc. etc. God damn these bastard.

    This country can’t survive this stupidity. We are doomed.


  103. Purple State says:

    chiroptera, it was interesting news to wake up to today. I expect conservative pundit heads to explode about an hour into Fox & Friends, if they haven’t exploded already.


  104. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Purple State says:

    chiroptera, it was interesting news to wake up to today. I expect conservative pundit heads to explode about an hour into Fox & Friends, if they haven’t exploded already.

    October 9th, 2009 at 7:11 am
    ____________

    True, there is that. It will be fun to watch the trolls go absolutely batguano insane. And if the news gives Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck fatal brain aneurysms, it will certainly be a major step forward for world peace.


  105. nofltwlt says:

    This guy may have earned a degree in medicine but he certainly doesn’t seem to be at all intelligent. There’s a difference between training and intelligence.

    Maybe religion makes you as vacuous as Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin.


  106. Lora says:

    To AaronQ,
    Actually I did mean to say “mean.” I chose that word over average, but explaining why is too petty at this point.
    Have a good weekend.


  107. lvdragonlady says:

    Hell, America is already at the bottom in education and the GOP wants us to stay that way.
    What a stupid remark this clown made.


  108. the orj says:

    OK, how many hours of TV time do I have to log to get my political science degree?


  109. latichev says:

    I’m old enough so that during the 60s I received a National Defense Education Act fellowship to study philosophy as a graduate student. Time was when we thought an educated citizenship was important for our country’s security.

    Speaking of science, Cavuto spent two segments today bashing the NASA rockets on the moon today, characterizing it as a waste of money with only a brief mocking nod to the the science involved, and even though his guest, Buzz Aldrin, called him an idiot.


  110. LynB says:

    This reminds me of another Senator (can’t remember who) that thought we could get rid of NOAA as we had the weather channel…


  111. peterjkraus says:

    Dr. Coburn has some right strange ideas. He’s living, talking proof we desperately need health care overhaul — would you voluntarily go to a screwball like him if you need a doctor?


  112. flavorino says:

    Oklahoma- The home of the stupidest of the stupid.
    They constantly reelect stupid on a consistent basis.


  113. EdgeOnIt says:

    “Half is Best!”

    A troll is yellow snow!

    A troll is chocolate, oozing, crawling, melted ice cream!

    And, with cherries, on top!

    So what’s is important anyhow?

    It’s(not), ear wax, or other fancy things?

    Should we not include red, black, and(other) greens?

    And what about a little of ‘Grinch’s’ good ‘ole sweat, and tears!?

    Hey!! “Who’s stolen, bodily functions??”


  114. karadagli61 says:

    Thank you for your sharing.!


  115. estetik says:

    But much worse is the way Coburn singles out support for the America. meme diklestirme ameliyati


  116. Mark701 says:

    I was stunned at Coburns comment until I saw the R-OK designation.



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