Energy Secretary Chu: ‘I Think It’s Wonderful’ That Companies Are Leaving The Chamber Over Its Denialism
Energy Secretary Chu: ‘I Think It’s Wonderful’ That Companies Are Leaving The Chamber Over Its Denialism
Recently, there has been a “business backlash” against the U.S. Chamber of Commerce for its extreme global-warming denier views. Businesses, fed up with the Chamber’s resistance to taking any sort of action to curb carbon emissions, have been leaving the business federation one after another. In the past month alone, Pacific Gas & Electric, Exelon, Public Service Company of New Mexico, and Apple have left the U.S. Chamber of Commerce over its extreme views on climate change.
Yesterday, during a solar energy event at the National Mall, Energy Secretary Steven Chu was asked by a Reuters reporter what he thought about the exodus of businesses from the Chamber. He replied by telling the reporter that he thinks it’s “wonderful” that companies are leaving:
CHU: I think it’s wonderful. I think that companies like that, Exelon, for example, others are saying that we have to recognize reality. In order to position the odd states in an economically competitive place and also to make the world minimize the dangers of significant climate change for our children and grandchildren we’ve got to go in this direction. So they’re saying, we can’t be a party to foot-dragging, to denials to things of that nature.
Listen here:
The Chamber has responded to the business exodus with scorn. After the flight of the most recent company, Apple, U.S. Chamber of Commerce President Tom Donohue bitterly responded, “It is unfortunate that your company didn’t take the time to understand the Chamber’s position on climate and forfeited the opportunity to advance a 21st century approach to climate change.”
And yet, predictably, a lot of the banks and big financial firms don't like the idea of a consumer agency very much. In fact, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is spending millions on an ad campaign to kill it. You might have seen some of these ads -- the ones that claim that local butchers and other small businesses somehow will be harmed by this agency. This is, of course, completely false -- and we've made clear that only businesses that offer financial services would be affected by this agency. I don't know how many of your butchers are offering financial services.
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I don’t know how many of your butchers are offering financial services.
Well then you haven’t checked out to price of prime rib lately. I bought one last week — 20 percent down on the installment plan.
:)
October 10th, 2009 at 1:45 pm10 out of 10 scientists agree that leaving a bad group is a good thing.
October 10th, 2009 at 1:49 pmEh, maybe your butcher is running a sports book and a loan sharking operation out of the back room? That’s illegal anyway, in most places, but the point is very well taken, both by our President and Secretary Chu.
The Chamber needs to have it’s toes stepped on, hard, and the only way to do it is hit them in the pocketbook.
I happen to think that anthropogenic climate change is real and accelerating, but that happens to be irrelevant. I prefer to live in a world where the air and water isn’t crapped up with pollutants. A number of people blow that kind of opinion off, but that is misdirected. The corporate leaders who have polluting industries in their folio don’t have to live next to the damned things, so they can pass the give-a-shit attitude off to the rest of their corporation, and we see the result all around us. While the law gives corporations the same status as individuals, corporations are paper and soulless; there’s no ethical or moral consciousness there. That has to be provided by corporate leadership and management and the people in the corporation.
The CEOs and managers that are taking their corporations out of the Chamber should be commended; they’re showing that a business doesn’t have to be a source or pollution in the community. The Chamber doesn’t have to be a cheerleader for polluting activity either, but until they feel the hurt in their membership fees, they won’t turn around; it has to really hurt too, because the current head of the Chamber is a weasel.
October 10th, 2009 at 1:52 pmI’ve said it before…I’ll say it again.
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is Anti-American and Anti-American Citizen Worker. Period.
They want a “wild-wild-west” type of business system with no rules or regulations. Period.
ALWAYS REMEMBER, whey you see that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce supports it, it is something very bad for America, Americans and The World.
You can read their slime and propaganda here:
October 10th, 2009 at 1:57 pmhttp://www.uschamber.com/
As for the Chamber being against consumer protection, you can’t find a better example of the Chamber head being a weasel. The guy is an advocate of the business version of rip, rape and run. Take the consumers for all they’ve got with cheesy ripoffs, rape the environment, and then run off behind a gate on a large estate where no one can get to you.
He isn’t interested in providing excellence in products or service, assuring customer satisfaction, or staying in business very long at all. He just wants a pile of cash as quick as he can get it, but he’s too much of a weeny to get into the real criminal side of things; hell, he isn’t even much of a businessman. He’s a marketing guy gone bad.
October 10th, 2009 at 2:00 pmHi Murphis. May I call you Murphis? Well the thing is Ms/Mr Murphis and I don’t mean to upset you but well people are a little concerned and there has been some talk…
October 10th, 2009 at 2:07 pmit cold here
Don’t worry, murphis. It’s a natural sensation that occurs briefly after you have taken your head out of your arse. There are two solutions: (1) wait a while and the feeling will pass or (2) re-insert your head.
I would recommend the latter. That way, you won’t be posting anymore of your vapid BS here. And your mommy will appreciate it, too, because she won’t have to look at your ugly puss.
October 10th, 2009 at 2:08 pmGlobal warming deniers are like the fools that claim the earth is flat – “because it flat here”… LOL!
October 10th, 2009 at 2:14 pmginslinger:
Can you explain the unprecedented loss of ice mass with regards to the mountain glaciers?
October 10th, 2009 at 2:27 pm@12 oh here we go.
pass the popcorn please.
October 10th, 2009 at 2:31 pmcrapslinger?
October 10th, 2009 at 2:32 pmginslinger, tell the truth — does Troll Central really accept Murphis’ act as legitimate trolling? Are they really willing to pay a nickel a post for work of that caliber?
It just seems like going through the motions with as little effort or thought as possible.
October 10th, 2009 at 2:34 pmReggie,
crapslinger is a proven coward and pu$$y.
carry on.
October 10th, 2009 at 2:35 pmRTWL,
October 10th, 2009 at 2:38 pmMy opinion of the “Murphis” troll’s intentions is it is trying to see how little it takes to illicit a response.
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@18
Is that the best that you can do?
It is hardly worth the effort engaging you if you are going to keep answering with that stale talking point you received from Eric Odom’s spin machine at Troll Central.
I will give you another chance, give it your best shot.
October 10th, 2009 at 2:46 pmCan anyone explain why climate change deniers are almost universally politiocally conservatiuve, even though climate change is a purely scientific, not political, issue?
October 10th, 2009 at 2:47 pm“(now owned by your friends the Red Chinese BTW).”
This can’t be true, is it?
OMf’ingG.
That is to funny.
It is true….
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October 10th, 2009 at 2:49 pmRead it and weep.
Second Warmest July on Record Globally, according to NASA
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Smurfis, you’re foot is dragging…
October 10th, 2009 at 2:55 pmkwsventures says:
“Money runs the world.. You don’t have it? You are a loser, complainer, crybaby, etc….”
This is a disgusting comment. What the hell is wrong with you?
October 10th, 2009 at 3:02 pmginslinger:
There is nothing inconvenient about it, nobody is denying that there have been ice ages in the past.
What you seem to be denying, is that in the last half century we have witnessed an unprecedented loss of ice mass in mountain glaciers.
Scientists have concluded that there is only one possible explanation for that rapid of a loss, a warming due to the rise of CO2 in the atmosphere has melted the glaciers.
Do you have an alternate explanation?
Did God develop a taste for glacial ice in his mixed drinks?
Were they stolen by UFOs?
Or do you believe they are still there and that David Copperfield made it appear that they melted?
October 10th, 2009 at 3:05 pmDeniers, don’t waste our time dragging out the well debunked bull shit called the Oregon Petition. That tired old dog don’t hunt anymore.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:07 pmComing from a guy who is paid to troll progressive blogs, that comment exploded the irony meter.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:10 pmkwsventures says:
“Money runs the world..
It may well run the world of men.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:10 pmIt does not run the natural world.
A relatively minor blip on the cosmic scale, and the world of men will vanish.
The world will go on, and some may survive.
Those being intelligences who learn to adapt, and it’s unlikely to be the ones with all the money and ammunition, holed up in their bunkers.
The ones who go on a rampage to steal from others at the point of a gun will suffer horribly in the end, because they will not win.
@ 26. Tha choo, vently?
Why yes, it does take money. It takes money to maintain our current infrastructure and money to build new, and it’s going to take money to develop, build and install the technology that reduces the emission of crap into the air and water.
What is it that you don’t understand about wanting to breathe air instead of acid rain, vently. Are you just fracking stupid or some kind of CofC whore? Or perhaps you enjoy the notion of waking up in the morning with some sort of chemical hangover from having drunk tapwater the night before and your eyes, mouth, lungs and nose full of fly-ash from the coalfired power plant down the street? That it, vently? Ya like some shit up your nose and crap in your lungs and a little molecule or two rotting your liver?
And what is it that you don’t understand about the opportunity in retrofittable pollution control technology and the money to be made in clean technology. Oh, sorry, you’re part of the rip, rape and run crowd, aren’t you, vent?
October 10th, 2009 at 3:10 pmYeah and according to your fuzzy math, the economy is in the tank because of liberal policies.
Have you ever been right about anything?
Can you name one success story for the right? You know, just one thing you have been right about.
And still you keep insisting that you know stuff. Sad.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:12 pmginslinger says:
Wonderful, my grandsons plane from Denver is delayed by a foot of Global Climate Change!
I know, Weather doesn’t equal climate, unless it’s all those hurricanes that forgot to happen. Right Al?
crapslinger – you are a lying SOS. live in Denver, and there is just a dusting of snow – it stopped already. The weather here has been weird all year – cooler than usual, but in other parts of the country (e.g. Ausitn) they have been burning up.
What gets me is why anyone would argue to not try to protect our planet, and to be responsible about what we put into the air, oceans, rivers, lakes, streams, etc. I guess the self-indulged, me-first crowd doesn’t give a rats a$$ about anything or anyone outside of their own retarded circle.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:15 pmMaybe if you tried to understand the science you would know that it is climate change.
Of course you are more interested in stopping science at any cost and in any field.
That’s why you are watching us deal with the problems you left. You are a loser who doesn’t know enough to stay in the game.
Enjoy your stint in the darkness, it will last a long time if you don’t wake up.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:20 pmmuzz says
I am shocked that ginslinger lied, shocked I say.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:20 pmExplain why, if you have so much money that you constantly cry? Could it be that you really don’t know much?
I believe the polls show that you are wrong about everything.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:23 pmIt was unprecedented that Americans gave you the chance to destroy our country. You are arrogant and ignorant and proud.
Watch the world go by while you cry and whine about it.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:25 pmIt is unprecedented because it has never happened in such a brief moment in time. The timeframe we are talking about would be considered a mere blip in geological time.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:30 pmAre you really this dumb or is this a lame act?
The outline of that proposed consumer financial protection agency that Obama was speaking about has apparently been tinkered with by Barney Frank over the last couple of months to the point that some think he’s “gutted” it.
But, even then, guess what? The bankers are STILL against it. And the WSJ came out against it a few days ago (of course).
NYT article on it.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:37 pmIn recent months, chamber executives have vowed to sue if EPA rejects the chamber’s call for scientific debate
But, but, I thought the business community wanted tort reform to reduce ‘frivolous lawsuits’?
Oh – only when other people are suing THEM! Ah, now I get it.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:50 pmYou see, troll, Barney Frank was probably trying the ‘bipartisan’ approach. Silly man, doesn’t he know by now that no matter how much ground he concedes to the righties it’ll never be enough?
The right-wingers are a bunch of petulant babies.
Waaahhhh! If I don’t get my way I’m going to scream and yell and stomp my feet until I do get my way! That’s the right for ya.
October 10th, 2009 at 3:53 pmI still haven’t figured out what it is exactly about climate change that brings out so many trolls.
I think it’s fear. It scares them. The climate is changing and they know it’s true. Even the DoD is planning for the future with that knowledge in mind:
The Department of Defense (DoD) believes that supporting climate change initiatives, protecting stratospheric ozone, and preserving military sustainability, operations, and readiness are mutually supportive goals. Climate change and ozone protection are important to DoD for three reasons:
There are potential national security implications of climate change and ozone protection
To sustain training to maintain military readiness, DoD must protect the environment
DoD recognizes that reducing greenhouse gas emissions and increasing energy efficiency make good business sense.
Why do our trolls hate our military?
October 10th, 2009 at 4:02 pmWhen you have a disease most people like to cure it. No one waits to see if it’s a natural disease or man made…..they just want a cure or at leat an attempt to keep them from getting worse.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:04 pmIs this really worth all the discussion?
Looks like some people are normal and some are stupid.
End of discussion.
Who says there’s been no change since Barack took office? I am retired from the US Fish and Wildlife Service. There, before March 1 2008 when I left we were specifically forbidden by the Bushies to talk about climate change let alone global warming (which it really is). Former Senator Ted Stevens’ daughter is (laughably) the Assistant Director for Public Affairs in the agency. Everything that hinted at global climate change/warming had to be personally approved by her (and probably her denier father) before it went out for public consumption.
Now to have a cabinet Secretary say what Chu said is nothing short of a breath of fresh air. And damned well overdue.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:11 pmSinsinger is covering for the years they spent playing with tinkertoys
October 10th, 2009 at 4:14 pmDont be an igmo bunfingerer, the temperatures are quite a bit colder at 5000 feet, or less, that could freeze and cause aerodynamic problems.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:17 pmI didn’;t realize that de-icing planes was de facto evidence of “a foot” of snow.
Silly me, I thought they always de-iced planes when there were freezing conditions and moisture in the air.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:20 pmginslinger the Eric Odom troll says:
What does does one day’s weather in one specific city have to do with climate change?
October 10th, 2009 at 4:25 pmNice try at distraction but you Odomites are not fooling anyone but yourselves.
Could you do me a favor? Knock on the closet door and ask Eric Odom or his significant other Mark Koldys to come here and debate for themselves. Why do those girly men send intellectual midgets to troll Think Progress?
A bit of “climate change” could be good for the Chamber of Commerce.
The dusty atmosphere needs a good blow-out.
If the repiggies called for the population to eat its own feces, the Chamber of Commerce would heartily endorse it, because it would be a missive from the repiggies.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:29 pmginwanker says:
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Gotta love Arizona!
No, really, I don’t. Not only does the climate suck, but it appears to be full of idiots–always assuming you and McCain are typical.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:51 pmThank God gin is gone. The guy is a creep. Typical Repug troll.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:56 pmHow odd that the troll is so ignorant about climate change yet lives in Arizona. A state that is projected to have serious fresh water issues very soon!
October 10th, 2009 at 5:02 pmNo so fast, libs! I look at this as being a glass half full! Glenn Beck could use the extra space the CoC now has to store all his advertisers. His 10-car garage can only hold so much!
October 10th, 2009 at 5:13 pmIf the Earth continues to see cyclical changes in temperature, that means global warming doesn’t exist!
October 10th, 2009 at 5:14 pmTick… tick… tick… goes the detonator on the extremist’s prejudice.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pmNoebody doesn’t think Gwobal warming is fake. They just don’t think SUV moms ferrying the kids to the pentagon for watch-daddy-hawk day is the cause.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:16 pmNaw, we dont need no reform.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:26 pmHey, butfinger, stay out of the sweat tents.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:31 pmginslinger says:
Wonderful, my grandsons plane from Denver is delayed by a foot of Global Climate Change!
You sure it isn’t delayed because it’s flat all of the way from Denver on this “flat earth”? LOL!
ginslinger says:
I know, Weather doesn’t equal climate, unless it’s all those hurricanes that forgot to happen. Right Al?
You mean the ones that destroyed homes all over central america during the last decades through their increased intensity? Oops… Yeah, just ignore “those” facts and look for an “exception” to justify denying reality. I’m sure it’s “flat” where you are, therefore the earth must be flat too! LOL!
October 10th, 2009 at 5:40 pmginslinger says:
Congratulations! In one post you have managed to acknowledge the fact that there have been previous ice ages, with the accompanying advance and retreat of glaciers, but what is going on now is unprecedented. That alone deserves an award.
And yet none of them occurred at the current pace. The pace limits the capacity of plants and animals to migrate and evolve creating climate and ecological disaster.
ginslinger says:
I wonder what unprecedented means in your closed little world?
It means change at an unprecedented rate? If you were informed on the topic you’d know that grandpa! ;)
October 10th, 2009 at 5:42 pmkwsventures says:
Money runs the world.. You don’t have it? You are a loser, complainer, crybaby probably looking for Uncle Sammy to throw you a bone to keep you content.
Really? I thought governments did. Did you mean that money “corrupts” the world? Because that’s what your “Christian” book of fables teaches. Why are you such a sinner and fool?
October 10th, 2009 at 5:43 pmginslinger says:
Unprecedented? Sure, but can you explain how virtually the entire North American continent was covered in ice, miles thick in some places, 10-15000 years ago? It seems to have disappeared without the help of one single Hummer (now owned by your friends the Red Chinese BTW).
You mean the climate change that destroyed entire eco systems including the mastodon and a host of other animals that are now extinct? LOL! Yeah, a climate disaster like that would be inconvenient. Especially if were man made and even more rapid than the last ice age was… You really aren’t very bright are you grandpa? Alzheimers? Dementia? Or just Stupidity?
October 10th, 2009 at 5:45 pmIt’s a natural sensation that occurs briefly after you have taken your head out of your arse. There are two solutions: (1) wait a while and the feeling will pass or (2) re-insert your head. good finance articles
October 10th, 2009 at 5:48 pmkwsventures says:
Get an education moron.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:56 pmIntrepid says:
kwsventures says:
Get an education moron.
If republicans were “capable” of being educated, they wouldn’t be republicans! ;)
October 10th, 2009 at 5:59 pmI was capable of being educated I’d win the ire of Karl Rove!
October 10th, 2009 at 6:15 pmCorrectum : If
October 10th, 2009 at 6:16 pmIntrepid says:
Get an education moron.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
You should change your name to “Intrepid Optimist.” ;)
October 10th, 2009 at 6:44 pmkwsventures says:
Money runs the world
Well, no, the world did what it does for some 4.6 billion of years without paper IOU’s
October 10th, 2009 at 6:48 pmKWS says money can cure global warming cause the world runs on a recent invention by mankind. Toilet paper. Green toilet paper. With pictures and numbers on it.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:52 pmWe need to frame this issue from a different perspective.
How do the conservatives feel about a dead ocean. Because if we don’t reduce the use of fossile fuels, the resulting acidification of the oceans will kill all of the corals, and
shellfish, and most of the remainimg fish, dolphins, and whales.
Unlike “climate change”, there is no doubt this is totally
anthropogenic.
The deniers can’t claim it’s just a natural cycle.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:52 pmMaybe the trolls are just too scared to admit they don’t know what “anthropogenic” means?
October 10th, 2009 at 6:59 pmIt wouldnt matter they would still say it, anthropogenic, means whatever they want it to mean and that GOD gave humans fossil fuels so we could do GODs work and kill of all sea-life
October 10th, 2009 at 7:01 pmSeriously, these people wont be happy until the earth is as barren and dead as the moon.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:02 pmClimate Change deniers want to trivialize a Dire Situation .
Regardless of the ” Conditions at the Denver Airport”… the Ice and snow in the Mountains Above the World’s Population Centers is shrinking and shrinking fast.
Why is this important??? WATER! These Snowfields are the source of the World’s Major River systems, which billions of people rely on to water the food they grow.
Less snow means less Water…and less Food for a World Population which can barely Feed itself under Ideal Conditions.
Drought and Starvation Will lead to a Dangerous Unstable World, that will effect All of us.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:08 pmAnd even then, they won’t be happy. They’ll just blame it on liberals.
Oh wait, that would make them happy.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:11 pmAwwwww, a vote down lurker doesn’t like me.
Boo hoo…
October 10th, 2009 at 7:12 pmBeen gone all day, and just read how crapslinger couldn’t deal with him being called out on his lies about the “snow” in Denver. The game was postponed, and the planes were being de-iced because it is cold here toady – don’t think it ever got to 30. Stupid trolls just make up their own reality, and spew their dribble all over the place.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:17 pmIronic isnt it. They want the world to come to a big bloody end with massive wars they helped to start while pointing fingers at others in blame so GOD will save them.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:17 pmI hope the toppling of the right wing, their companies, and their organizations continues. What a wonderful way to end this Hate Group!
October 10th, 2009 at 8:13 pmZooey says:
Awwwww, a vote down lurker doesn’t like me.
Boo hoo…
It’s murphis.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:13 pmZooey says:
Intrepid says:
kwsventures says:
Get an education moron.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
You should change your name to “Intrepid Optimist.” ;)
I’m optimistic an education will confuse KWSMoron.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:15 pmMurphis says:
you are gay
Do you wear your sister’s clothes?
October 10th, 2009 at 8:16 pmThree questions:
October 10th, 2009 at 8:18 pmDid you mean gay as in happy, or gay as in sexual orientation?
Was there someone specific you were calling gay?
Have you been drinking antifreeze again?
Badger says:
Climate Change deniers want to trivialize a Dire Situation .
Regardless of the ” Conditions at the Denver Airport”… the Ice and snow in the Mountains Above the World’s Population Centers is shrinking and shrinking fast.
Why is this important??? WATER! These Snowfields are the source of the World’s Major River systems, which billions of people rely on to water the food they grow.
Less snow means less Water…and less Food for a World Population which can barely Feed itself under Ideal Conditions.
Drought and Starvation Will lead to a Dangerous Unstable World, that will effect All of us.
The GOP:
“Food chain? What’s that?!”
October 10th, 2009 at 8:27 pmPlease, murpizz cant fit into his sisters clothes, hes wearing his obese aunt stephanies pre-diet clothes
October 10th, 2009 at 8:30 pmFood Chain, whats that?
My twelve course breakfast, lunch and dinner. -Rush Limbaugh
October 10th, 2009 at 8:34 pm12 courses of glucose, hot air and oxycontin.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:48 pmOT… guess what?
gop’s Michael Steele tries to make money from Obama’s Nobel prize
October 10th, 2009 at 9:09 pmChristian Science Monitor – Jimmy Orr – ?1 hour ago?
President Obama wins the Nobel Peace Prize and Republican National Committee chief Michael Steele is trying to make money off of it.
Video: Did Obama Deserve Nobel Prize? CBS
President Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize win mocked in GOP fundraising letter New York Daily News
New York Times – FOXNews – Jerusalem Post – Wikipedia: 2009 Nobel Peace Prize
all 9,955 news articles »
http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&cf=all&ncl=duMtdCczy8cPYcMT2tqGneZlujEgM&topic=h
and this is kinda funny… not new though…
found in the column along side the story, Obama: Consensus and obstructionism on health care at the miami herald:
In the weekly Republican address Senator George LeMieux acknowledges there are deep problems with the health care system, but says they have to be fixed the right way.
you know, the RIGHT way…
i’ve been outside all day, and just finished the last batches of the season’s basil pesto… having a rest… later…
October 10th, 2009 at 9:27 pmKaty @ 97
Amazing what FOOLS the GNOP have become. I say let them go as far as they want and watch the numbers continue to drop.
6 GOP seats in the Senate look as if they may go dem.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:28 pmthis is a pretty good piece:
Avlon: Extremism in danger of acceptance
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/07/avlon.civility/
but, once again, and it’s always the right that does it, there’s the attempt to equivocate…
President Bush was subjected to many of these same attacks from the far left — “Bush = Hitler” signs and being called a domestic terrorist. But there is a more widespread fury and fervor being directed at Obama in far less time.
and is totally UNJUSTIFIED.
see, bush WAS the closest ever to hitler, and he WAS a domestic terrorist… practically…
always with avoiding the facts… the right f’d up, bad, and just can’t face up to it, much less acknowledge and accept responsibility…
they never accept responsibility…
October 10th, 2009 at 9:45 pmi’m sorry, had enough… i didn’t see you there at first…
October 10th, 2009 at 10:07 pmthought i was alone… done with shower… time to kick back…
Actually, since this thread is supposed to be about remarks made by Energy Secretary Chu, it’s interesting to note that we now have two Nobel Prize winners in the administration. After all, Steven Chu is a winner of the Nobel Prize in Physics, which he co-won with two others in 1997.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:51 am@ 100. Katy, I think that comparisons of American politicians, even the Shrub, to Hitler, is not productive; the analogies fall apart on close examination, and I don’t think the Shrub is that sort of personality type anyway.
The Shrub is bullheaded, stubborn, stupid, and error prone, but he isn’t a genocidal murderer. He wasn’t the kind of limitless warmonger that Hitler was. The Iraq war may or may not be a war crime, but if it is, it absolutely pales in comparison to the war crimes inflicted on Europe and the Soviet Union by Hitler and his government. We might also note that the Shrub did the democratic thing at the end of his term of office; he turned over the government to his successor and walked away. Hitler wasn’t about to turn anything over; he blew his brains out and had himself incinerated in a bomb crater in the Reich Chancellery building courtyard; there wasn’t enough of him left to carry out feet first.
It’s certainly the case that President Obama does NOT fit into the category of megalomaniac of any sort. Our righty trolls and their masters do us all a disservice by comparing him to anyone else, but particularly to any of the totalitarian or autocratic dictators who used mass movements to thoroughly screw up the 20th Century.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:15 amNice article. Unfortunately, the first paragraph refers to the energy company PG&E as “Pacific Gas & Energy” — when it is Pacific Gas & Electric. A minor quibble, but it’s a big company.
October 11th, 2009 at 4:58 amMurphis
Kill yourself PUNK
October 11th, 2009 at 8:31 amDr Venture
GOD you are stupid. I cant even imagine how stupid you have to be to not be able to tell the difference between weather and climate. I do love to laugh at morons as stupid as you.
October 11th, 2009 at 8:33 amkwsventures says:
Money runs the world.. You don’t have it? You are a loser, complainer, crybaby probably looking for Uncle Sammy to throw you a bone to keep you content.
Objectively speaking, you have got to be one of the most inhumane people on the planet. I sincerely hope you’re leaving the subject of your children’s moral education to your wife. It’s clearly too late for you, but maybe they won’t grow up to be a greedy, self-absorbed a-hole like you. My hope is that one day your children receive world-wide recognition for trying to do the kind of things people like you abhor, like feeding the starving peple in the world, finding homes for the homeless, expanding education to those who can’t afford to pay for it, and curing diseases. Maybe they’ll win a Nobel Prize for Peace, just like our president, for trying to bring Peace to a world ravaged by War. It would be worth it just to see how pissed off you get.
Oh, and remember one last thing. There’s an old saying: The love of money is the root of all evil. You are contributing to the rise of Evil by your worship of money. You’re probably proud of yourself, too.
You, sir, are an idiot.
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October 17th, 2009 at 4:03 amThank you for your sharing.!
October 17th, 2009 at 10:49 am