WH communications director: Fox News operates as ‘a wing of the Republican Party.’
WH communications director: Fox News operates as ‘a wing of the Republican Party.’
This morning on CNN’s Reliable Sources, White House communications director Anita Dunn defended her recent comment to Time magazine that Fox News is “opinion journalism masquerading as news.” Noting the inordinate amount of attention Fox devotes to stirring fake controversies like Bill Ayers and ACORN, Dunn explained:
The reality of it is that Fox News often operates as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party. And it’s not ideological. I mean, obviously there are many commentators who are conservative, liberal, centrist, and everybody understands that. What I think is fair to say about Fox is — and certainly the way we view it — is that it really is more of a wing of the Republican Party. [...]
They’re widely viewed as, you know, a part of the Republican Party — take their talking points, put them on the air, take their opposition research, put them on the air, and that’s fine. But let’s not pretend they’re a news network they way CNN is.
Watch it:
Last month, President Obama appeared on five Sunday morning talk shows, including Univision’s Al Punto. He rejected Fox, however. Dunn revealed this morning that Obama did not appear on Fox because of its reflexive, partisan opposition to Obama. Obama will go on Fox in the future, Dunn said, but when he goes on, “he’s going on to debate the opposition.”
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October 11th, 2009 at 11:50 amWell, Fox News is….. well, Faux News.
October 11th, 2009 at 11:56 amHoot Hoot! Keep it up, White House. This is a breath of fresh air.
October 11th, 2009 at 11:58 amI am happy to see the Faux Noise actions are being called out but I hope the attention they are now getting does not work to their advantage. Those that are glued to Faux Noise will not understand what Dunn is saying. The Faux Noise machine will whip up more froth for the faithful dolts to whine about. The right is very good at pushing falsehoods and framing those that oppose them as traitors. They are adept at putting out the message and not letting the facts get in their way.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:00 pmMostly they operate as a wing of K Street [lobbyists] so its natural they appear, and do, work for the gNOpers and use government, elected politicks, to bilk the salus populi of its tax dollars.
Its a canard they are for tax cuts. Its a canard they are about smaller gogvernment, its a canard they care about life, its a canard they care about anything other than paper IOUs.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:01 pmActually it is just the reverse, the Republican party acts as the political wing of Fox News.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:01 pmLeftside Annie says:
…In other news, rain has been determined to be wet.
…and shit…stinky.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:02 pmWH communications director: Fox News operates as ‘a wing of the Republican Party.’
– - Ya think? (Btw this story is a week old.)
October 11th, 2009 at 12:03 pmFox News is a wing of the republican party. In other news, the moon is in fact NOT made of cheese!
October 11th, 2009 at 12:12 pmFox is… more of a wing of the Republican Party.
Yup
October 11th, 2009 at 12:13 pmDunn did not need to state the obvious. When Fox attacked Clinton nonstop and did not criticize Bush, then it should have been very clear to even the average person. It is good that Fox is being shut out of the White House press. If Murdoch and Ailes want to be a part of the WH press corps then they know what they need to do. But they won’t.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:18 pmShe is so correct. Once in awhile I watch it to see what they are saying, and frankly, it’s both scary and wrong.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:19 pmI’m going to keep asking this question until I get an answer:
Why has ClusterFox not been charged with being an illegal unregistered 527 Group by the FEC?
Anybody here have answer?? Amanda, Faiz, Podesta? Anybody?
October 11th, 2009 at 12:19 pm@ 2. COProgressive says: Well, Fox News is….. well, Faux News. October 11th, 2009 at 11:56 am
No, it isn’t. It’s Flatulent Noise. It’s all well and good to call it Faux but it certainly isn’t News, and apart from screeching sensationalism and the strong ‘the sky is falling’ sort of opinion, it has the dull thump of a rather too solid fart and the stale smell of Rupert Murdock’s bum.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:22 pmIt’s been the RepugBroadcastingNetwork since it was created because it was created for and by repugs.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:24 pmWe need someone like Anita Dunn in charge of WH communications. She calls it like it is.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:24 pmFox News is not a legitimate news organization.
We here all know that Fox News is faux news — but not everyone sees it that way; this was pretty important today — an interview with Dunn on CNN, a news channel which is still viewed by the more independent, moderate citizen as being legitimate.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:30 pmShe took full advantage of the opportunity.
In before trolls.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:35 pmDixie Blood (@13 is absolutely correct. It’s time to take the obvious truth of Fox’s partisan nature to the obvious conclusion – their activies are campaign activities that should be subject to campaign spending laws. Just because they will ‘make the argument’ that Fox is a news organization, doesn’t mean that the argument is valid.
Advertising on FOX is an unregulated campaign contribution. It is NOT a valid business expense; it should not reduce a company’s tax liability.
FOX News was created by Roger Ailes (the Karl Rove of his day). The partisan nature of its broadcasting is not an accident; it is a deliberate strategy to evade campaign finance laws.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:39 pmMarie says:
We need someone like Anita Dunn in charge of WH communications. She calls it like it is.
Fox News is not a legitimate news organization.
Never has been legit. Never will be legit. Their the official voice of the mental midgets.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:40 pmIntrepid says:
In before trolls.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
They must still be in church.
Trolls are not perfect, just forgiven!
**wretch**
October 11th, 2009 at 12:41 pmZooey says:
Intrepid says:
In before trolls.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
They must still be in church.
Ohhhhh…. Worshipping the non-existant sky pixie? Got ya.!
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Oh look, it’s the Tracist.
*yawn*
October 11th, 2009 at 12:47 pmTracy__5 says:
And when it come to defending this great country I don’t have time for church!
From who? The big black man? Why do you hate blacks?
October 11th, 2009 at 12:49 pmBeyond the obvious, I also think it is important the Fox Republican Propaganda BS Network be called on their lies every time.
So, get cracking, you INSECTS.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:50 pmI wonder if the Tracist is actually linked to a picture of himself?
October 11th, 2009 at 12:50 pmThey must still be in church.
Which is code for “nursing a meth-induced hangover”, no doubt.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:52 pm****
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He is. It’s the after effects of watching Fox News.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:53 pmOT, but worth it:
On this week’s Sunday Roast, the Supersizers eat the foods and re-live the memories of 1980s Britain.
Ohhhh, the stress…
October 11th, 2009 at 12:54 pmUh-oh, Tracist – now you’ve gone and pissed off Jebus…better ask for forgiveness – QUICK!
October 11th, 2009 at 12:55 pmIntrepid says:
He is. It’s the after effects of watching Fox News.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
That is SOOO gross!
October 11th, 2009 at 12:56 pmThe most popular sports program on tv is professional wrestling. It’s fake, it’s stupid and it’s a mockery.
But it’s a real ratings winner!
October 11th, 2009 at 12:56 pmTracist?
Ditching the sky pixie???
SHOCKER!!!
October 11th, 2009 at 1:02 pmThe Fox PROPAGANDA network.
Aiders and abettors of the TREASON of Bush and Cheney.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:02 pmAnd when it come to defending this great country I don’t have time for church!
And REAL Americans don’t have time for TRAITORS like Fox.
Or YOU.
But we DO have time for God…
When Murdoch DIES, he will be with the Bushes, Cheneys and Ronnie Reagan the TRAITOR.
Along with their MASTER Satan. And Tracy.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:05 pmFox News:
“Doing for the Republicans what Gobbels did for the Nazis.”
October 11th, 2009 at 1:06 pm“The reality of it is that Fox News often operates as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party.”
Wow… Finally, they are coming out and calling those hacks at Fox that are masquerading as “journalists” (what a laugh!) what they really are: Propagandists and tools for the right wing. Hey Fox! Guess its time to hang up that “Fair and Balanced” label and try for something else, hmmm? You guys at Fox think your viewers will mind if you suddenly just up and change your tag line to: Fox News: Your direct communications link to the republican party!
Sucks to be you, Fox News.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:07 pmUh, duh.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:10 pmguessing that meeting between david axelrod and fox’s roger ailes
didn’t go so well…
never heard much about that either…
October 11th, 2009 at 1:12 pmHey Tracist, why don’t you do something about your bed bug bites instead of voting down intellectuals while in pussy mode.
Studies have shown that people who watch Fox News suffer from bed bug infestation.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:16 pmMethinks they have painted themselves into a corner here.Didn’t Fox win a lawsuit anying it was OK for them to lie, as they are not really news but entertainment?
So they can’t hide behind the mantle of journalism.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:17 pmUnless they are willing to have a big disclaimer at the beginning of every segment saying “the following is a fictional story” they shouldn’t be able to broadcast their crap.
43…
Fox News:
“We don’t need no stinking disclaimer captions.”
October 11th, 2009 at 1:20 pmCue the trufer troopers. Frontline, armed with LOLs and sad ratings, the first wave. Next up, the screechers proclaiming the rest of the media is librul and does it too. And the big guns about only Faux has a direct pipeline to heaven and Jeebus would be a sponsor if he was still around.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:22 pmIs it just me or is that underline under Tracy 5 growing?
October 11th, 2009 at 1:25 pmI do not support the suggestion of President Obama spending ANY time with the liars and distorters at the Fox Republican Propaganda Network.
While Faux does have some appearances by the supposed “intellectual” winguts -Kristol, Barnes, Krauthammer, Newt, and so on- their core audience is composed by confirmed MORONS that lap whatever gNOpig tripe the talking heads are pushing that week with misleading chyrons.
- Is Obama a Socialist?
- Obama wrong for accepting Nobel Prize?
Any interview by President Obama would be later dissected and parsed into as many ways possible, just trying to find something, anything, to attack President Obama.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:26 pmFox News are NOT elected officials. They are not NEWS.
The President and Democrats OWE THEM NOTHING.
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dbadass says:
Is it just me or is that underline under Tracy 5 growing?
Nah… He’s just scratching another bed bug welt on his body.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:28 pmYes! Yes! Yes!
October 11th, 2009 at 1:30 pmKeep exposing the Truth and exposing the Lies!!!!!!!
The way to fight the Fascist Republican Terrorists is to stop their control of the media. 80% of TV and Radio is controlled by the lying, violence instigating, fear mongering, wingnut, extremist, conservative Republican Party.
Time to take our Democracy back!
50.
Are you by chance related to Joe the Plumber?
October 11th, 2009 at 1:30 pmI have Fox News stickers all over the tank on my truck
And I’m sure they appreciate the ironic advertising.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:35 pmLarry the Septic Tank Guy says:
Joe and I are both born of good strong, conservative steel. That’s how we’er related.
I can see that. And all of it is rusting between your ears.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:38 pm54. Hoodathunk…..I don’t think repugs like Stinky Larry understand irony.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:38 pm@ 19. Peter C says: Dixie Blood (@13 is absolutely correct. It’s time to take the obvious truth of Fox’s partisan nature to the obvious conclusion – their activies are campaign activities that should be subject to campaign spending laws. … FOX News was created by Roger Ailes (the Karl Rove of his day). The partisan nature of its broadcasting is not an accident; it is a deliberate strategy to evade campaign finance laws. October 11th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Excellent points, but Ailes didn’t have the financial chops to do it on his own. He’s just a shill (as well as being the tactical operator) for whoever the owner is, and at the moment, it’s Rupert Murdock.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:39 pmStinky Larry confirmed his ignorance. Big words like, “ironic” are mind bending to your average repug.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:40 pmLarry the Septic Tank Guy says:
“ironic” now you see what I fu(king mean? How about translating that from polish to english, dude?
Sure…
Layyr says (translated to english): “I have a bed bug problem and I can’t help it. Every time I turn on Fox News, they crawl out of my television”.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:40 pmHmm, which crayon? Midnight Blue or Hemorrhoid Red. Ok, lets go with the red
Ironic in that you advertise such a quality organization on the side of a truck that collects, hauls and dumps shyt.
Ok, pumpkin?
October 11th, 2009 at 1:40 pmLarry 61.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:40 pmI wonder if trolls ever feel bad that immigrants have a better understanding of English as their second language than the trolls have of it as their milk tongue?
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Larry the Septic Tank Guy says:
And I get the news, fair and balanced and in PLANE ENGLISH from the good folks at Fox. See they have an idea over there, THEY REPORT AND I DECIDE! You don’t want to watch? Fine. This is why we conservatives are smarter than you.
Interesting. How do you decide the “truth” when the Fox network omits facts, misrepresents them and plain out and out lies about facts?
October 11th, 2009 at 1:47 pmY’all don’t give Larry too hard a time. His knuckles are hurting after he socked the wife in the eye cuz dinner wasn’t on the table on time.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:49 pmHoodathunk says:
…milk tongue…
October 11th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Hey, no going erotic until after 5 pm. M’kay?
October 11th, 2009 at 1:50 pmlocomotivebreath1901 says:
“Fox News operates as ‘a wing of the Republican Party.’”
Another Obama administration mental midget speaks.
That’s like saying NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, NPR, the NY Times and TIME mag are nothing more than mouth organs for the democrat party.
Fox news commentators have stated that they get their talking points from the Republican party and told by management to stress these talking points. These talking points are faxed every morning to the network. I am not aware of any other network that gets their “news” from a political party.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:50 pmSomeone should probably remind the Faux true believers that their hero went to court and got themselves exempted from having to be truthful because they don’t do news. They do infotainment.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:52 pm@ 50. Larry the Septic Tank Guy says: Let me tell you lefties something. I work and my wife stays home and raises the kids, yeah to you it’s a real “alturnate life style” … fair and balanced and in PLANE ENGLISH from the good folks at Fox. See they have an idea over there, THEY REPORT AND I DECIDE! You don’t want to watch? Fine. This is why we conservatives are smarter than you. I have Fox News stickers all over the tank on my truck and there’s nuthin’ you libs can do about it. October 11th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Dear Cesspool Troll,
I left your first English-for-idiots lesson on another one of the threads on the TPsite. Glad to hear you’re providing reading material along with a bad smell for your fellow motorists.
The word is PLAIN, Cess, not PLANE. A plane is a tool used in woodworking to produce a flat surface (usually – there are spokeshave planes and others for speciality curve forms); also, there is a mathematical object which is referred to as a plane (I’d tell you a lot more but you’d find it tedious); and plane is also an acceptable contractive form for airplane. The word plain, however, as an adjective, which is how you used it, means unadorned or simple or undecorated; in ordinary guy talk, straight up. Plain, when used as a noun, shares it’s meaning with the mathematical plane, in that it refers to a (more-or-less) level geographic feature, usually devoid of trees (it ain’t a forest – yo) etc etc.
The word is spelled ALTERNATE, not alturnate.
Good on you, cess, you keep deciding. You’re the deciderer, right? What is it you decide? Whether you agree or not? Whether you understand or not? Whether they’re lying or not? Why do you think they want anything but to have you watch the next commercial? What makes you think they’re telling it straight? Wassup? Dood?
October 11th, 2009 at 1:58 pmpags2 says:
Actually, I believe it was Scott McClellan who wrote that sent talking points directly to Fox… and if locomotivebreath has his talking points all lined up he will now dismiss those allegations without addressing them by claiming that McClellan
is ‘just trying to sell books’ and be popular…
http://crooksandliars.com/2008/07/25/mcclellan-white-house-gave-fox-commentators-talking-points
He will then probably claim that FOX is #1 in the ratings and this PROVES that they are AWEXOME…
He will then ignore the contradiction presented by arguing that one must diss Fox to ‘Sell Books’ and that Fox represents the majority of American’s views at the same time… Jeebuz
October 11th, 2009 at 1:59 pmLarry the Septic Tank Guy says:
pags2, it’s something simple my old man taught me, convervative good, liberal bad. It was true then and it’s true now. fair and balanced dude, fair and balanced. You’d understand that if my dad was your dad.
It is no wonder why you watch Fox News. You need to be told what your opinion should be, much like your dad did.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:00 pmGuys… Larry the Septic Tank Guy is a FauxTroll…
October 11th, 2009 at 2:00 pmThat’s my take also on Larry. Sounds like a working man’s Colbert.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:03 pmAnd Rupture MurderDick became a US citizen so that he could buy media enterprises NOT because he loves America.
He’s a phucking, disloyal, traitor a$$h0le.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:06 pmWhatever he is, I hope Larry doesn’t chew his nails.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:06 pmI think Murphis is as well but they still serve a purpose.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:07 pmZooey says:
Y’all don’t give Larry too hard a time. His knuckles are hurting after he socked the wife in the eye cuz dinner wasn’t on the table on time.
She couldn’t help it. She was fending off bed bugs.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:09 pm@ 79. Zooey says: Whatever he is, I hope Larry doesn’t chew his nails. October 11th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Aw, come on, Zooey, we all know that a little e. coli can’t hurt a fine upstanding right-thinking right-wing Murkan like Larry the Cesspool Troll.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:10 pmThat must be a wonderful life Larry. Go to church to get your weekly dose of fiction and go home to watch fox news for your daily dose of fiction.
Does your entire life always revolve around fiction?
October 11th, 2009 at 2:14 pmLarry the Septic Tank Guy says:
Glenn Beck’s alot like me WE PULL OUR WEIGHT! So Glenn’s moving to Sean’s spot so I don’t have speed home like a maniac in the truck to see him. Thank god!
You can get the same blather on a hospital psych ward.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:16 pmFox News has taught me along the way. I know the tone, the scripts. Right now the meme is that it’s patriotic to be unpatriotic. We must sedate this country from the
October 11th, 2009 at 2:17 pmdiversitylibtard uprising.Is that true Larry? Hannity is being bumped by the weeping wonder? One thing the likes of Hannity, BO and Beck hold closer than the right wing talking points is their own ego.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:18 pmIntrepid says:Does your entire life always revolve around fiction?
That and septic tank covers. Leaves lots of time for deep contemplation.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:18 pmLarry the Cesspool Troll says:
Faux? ha, ha again. I can spell Fox and you can’t big mouth.
It’s Faux, poser. Faux because it’s not news. It’s lie infested infotainment.
Next…
October 11th, 2009 at 2:21 pmLarry’s dad taught him the 3 basic rules of plumbing.
1) Hots on the left
2) Payday is on Friday
3) Shyt flows downhill
Please, lets not try to confuse him with higher learning.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:23 pm#76
belaccifer lacca says:
Guys… Larry the Septic Tank Guy is a FauxTroll…
Are you sure he’s not a FoxSucker?
October 11th, 2009 at 2:23 pmI decide: Is Anita Dunn really the Taliban liaison for the White House?
Fox will report.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:25 pmShutup, Larry. You suck.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:27 pm***
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You mean
he
sucks on
FOX SCROTUM?
I already know he’s into swimming in cesspools, child porn, worshipping fictional sky pixies and watches fixed news but I never thought for one minute that he’s into beastiality. That guy has serious issues.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:27 pmLarry the Septic Tank Guy says:
I’ll stay here all day until I get figure out a way to teach you libs that fact. I can do it to. I’m patient. I phuck dogs.
Fixed it for ya.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:29 pmLarry trains dogs to hump his wife.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:29 pmJesus wept and so did Glenn and let me tell you something else. THEY BOTH PULLED THEIR WIEGHT!
Jeebus never had a job and hung out with a bunch of radicals. He ticked off the government so much, they hung him out to dry.
And bin Gleck has the only EZ Lift toilet in the country so he can get back on his feet after a dump.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:30 pmFor Larry the turd floater: FAUX has a definition. Look it up if you know how. FAUX has proclaimed to be partisan and to be created to be an alternate reality for wingnuts like you. They have also gone to court to earn the right to tell lies. See the articles I am furnishing for you.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/how_fox_news_opened_america_4liVlMvo3s1jxt8lql75fK
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/11-the-media-can-legally-lie/
October 11th, 2009 at 2:32 pm“state’s militia”
Is that what they’re calling the KKK these days?
October 11th, 2009 at 2:32 pmWhen it says libby libby libby on the label label label, you will like it like it like it on your table table table.
Just make it a strong one…
October 11th, 2009 at 2:33 pmLarry the Septic Tank Guy says:
You people are the reason I joined my state’s militia. We’re the “Rove Warriors”. I’m giving up my weekends because of you libs. Why don’t you guys just settle down and stop acting so libby all the time?!
So are you one of the teabaggers out to kill liberals and assassinate the president?
October 11th, 2009 at 2:33 pmLarry the Septic Tank Guy says:
99, watch what you write there pal, I have a black belt in karate and rabbit fighting.
Threatening TP members now…. Like a good little pussy.
Why are you a pussy?
October 11th, 2009 at 2:35 pm99, watch what you write there pal, I have a black belt in karate and rabbit fighting.
Gotcha
October 11th, 2009 at 2:37 pm“50. Larry the Septic Tank Guy says:
Let me tell you lefties something. I work and my wife stays home and raises the kids, yeah to you it’s a real “alturnate life style” BUT when I come home after a hard day I don’t want to see some chick with scary eye make up whining about poor, defenseless minorities or how the earth is turning into a baked potato, I WANT THE NEWS! And I get the news, fair and balanced and in PLANE ENGLISH from the good folks at Fox. See they have an idea over there, THEY REPORT AND I DECIDE! You don’t want to watch? Fine. This is why we conservatives are smarter than you.
I have Fox News stickers all over the tank on my truck and there’s nuthin’ you libs can do about it.”
Lol, this is rich! Are you real…
October 11th, 2009 at 2:38 pmLarry you do understand us Liberals are fighting for the freedom (that comes from a Democracy) to make sure you and EVERYONE can put whatever they want on their trucks.
Way to go Dude, that’s one load of shit you got on your truck!
Rove Warriors. Sort of a cheap slant on Road Warriors. Buncha guys (most smelling bad from their day jobs) dressing up funny and pledging allegiance to a fat little turd. Maybe you should consider Civil War re-enactments.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:39 pmLarry, its a nice schtick but you have a ways to go to match GOP REALLY. I’ll give you some extra points for the down home, redneck aspect of your parody.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:42 pmTHEY DIDN’T HAVE MACHINE GUNS IN THE CIVIL WAR.
Ok, I’ll play your game…YES, THEY DID!
October 11th, 2009 at 2:44 pmRove Warriors? That’s contradictory. Rove is one of the most mousey spineless bowls of jello in all of the GOP.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:45 pmGive me a swift kick through my basic dial-up connection, loser.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:46 pmThe Gatling gun (1861) was one of the most well known rapid-fire weapons to be used in the 1860s by the Union forces of the American Civil War, Courtesy of Wikipedia.
YES, THEY DID!
October 11th, 2009 at 2:50 pmAnd Larry, the Ug Ug thing is Murphis’. Don’t blow your character so bad.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:52 pmLarry, you got to get your head out of the sewer from time to time. They did have machine guns.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:55 pm.
FOXPRAVDA is not a News Station,,,
… FOXPRAVDA is a Political Station!
.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:59 pmNice try, Larry. You done been outed but a nice try at misdirection with the sex thing.
October 11th, 2009 at 3:01 pmOK, I get it, Larry the Septic Tank is putting on a show for all us hapless liberals.
Where’s the remote?
October 11th, 2009 at 3:02 pmI challenge YOU to be fair and balanced for one whole day. Can you do it?!
October 11th, 2009 at 3:04 pm—
I can but I still don’t want to have to waste time if the judges are going to be biased so can you give me a heads up as to who the judges will be before I waste my time? Thanks.
Hoodathunk says:
I wonder if trolls ever feel bad that immigrants have a better understanding of English as their second language than the trolls have…
not the LEAST, the understanding and comprehension of the HISTORY of the
United States of America…
… i heard a caller to randi the other day actually giving credit to CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS as being among the FOUNDING FATHERS of the USA… !!!!!
seriously. incredible.
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po, po tracist. Just can’t stand the idea that parody trolls are more popular than he is.
October 11th, 2009 at 3:14 pmWho is on your side tracy?
October 11th, 2009 at 3:25 pmgully foyle says:
Are you sure he’s not a FoxSucker?
definitely a beckerhead…
October 11th, 2009 at 3:28 pm“You people are the reason I joined my state’s militia. We’re the “Rove Warriors”.”
must mean you’re a bunch of chickenshit draft dodging pole smokers.
October 11th, 2009 at 3:33 pmDear 5_cheetos-finger_Tracy,
October 11th, 2009 at 3:36 pmHave you figured out what side you’re on, yet?
Anyone with a yet-functioning brain knows that FoxNews is a load of bollocks.
It pushes the repiggie line 24/7.
Look at the sheer number of repiggies and Bush/Cheney refuse that have been swept up on FoxNews’ beaches.
FoxNews is only concerned about the welfare of Rupert Murdoch and other corporate fat cats.
It is a potent drug for the stupid and the insecure, who are lulled into complacency by their overlords.
October 11th, 2009 at 3:48 pmSnarry the Dyspeptic–
You always seem to imply that liberals don’t work and contribute to this society because Fuchs Noose told you to think that way. Unless you homeschool your kids, if you and I live in the same city/town, I was probably one of their teachers, and most likely they passed every state-mandated test they took. I did it while being a liberal and an African American, as I did with the children of many Fuchs Noose freakazoids, and the state gave me a teaching certificate because I passed all the required tests the first time I sat for them. I also completed undergraduate school in 3 years instead of 4 and, paid out-of-pocket by the quarter/semester to finance both of the advanced degrees I have in education, in different areas also.
And before you get started on your affirmative action rant, I was accepted to all colleges on the basis of grades and test scores, and paid the costs myself. None of the colleges I attended were historic black colleges. I was in the minority population at each institution. I have a kid who is also highly-educated and employed, with no out-of-wedlock offspring
This is what scares Fuchs Noose and its freakazoids about President Obama and people like myself. We defy the stereotypes that this society has institutionalized. While you and Fuchs Noose are busy shouting and acting out to attract attention, we are staying the course, living our lives, and being successful in spite of you, and there is nothing you, Fuchs Noose, or anyone else can do to stop it without resorting to violence, which is your usual “solution” to problems. Reminds me of the Nazi “solutions” to their “supposed” problems, but wait, it’s libruls who are Nazis.
This very belief shows what a hatchet job Fuchs has done on the minds of it’s viewers, just like combining Nazi and czars, which has no historical relevance.
October 11th, 2009 at 3:55 pmDoes that mean that you two are doing it missionary position, so he is on top?
October 11th, 2009 at 4:00 pmDidn’t we conclude yesterday that the Republican Party operates as a wing of Fox News, and not the other way around?
At the very least we established that the difference is pretty slim!
Murdoooch!
October 11th, 2009 at 4:33 pmAll I can say is that Larry the loser isn’t on my side!
October 11th, 2009 at 4:42 pm–
So I asssume that would mean you can’t say anyone that is or who your leaders are. Is that correct?
I have Fox News stickers all over the tank on my truck and there’s nuthin’ you libs can do about it.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Sure, I can.
I can laugh at an unamerican moron supporter of sedition and TREASON (Fox “news”, Bush & Cheney),
and how rich people make you LOOK like that MORON against your own best interests and needs.
REAL Americans, as well as the rest of the WORLD, know this.
Of course, not YOU.
LOL!!!
October 11th, 2009 at 4:53 pmBclem
You are so brainwashed it is just sad. Are you talking about Tweety Matthews? The SAME commentator who said Bush shines with a sunny nobility and was like Atticus Finch? Yeah he is real biased. You just cant get past your stupid can ya?
October 11th, 2009 at 6:57 pmYeah LarrySeptic We get how stupid you are. The question is why are you so PROUD to be so stupid? When I watch news which is pretty seldom. I dont want weasels lying and distorting which is what FOX does. I know morons like you WANT to be lied and and just revel in your ignorance. Good luck with that
October 11th, 2009 at 6:59 pmAnita Dunn said,
Research arm? Communications arm? Why namby-pamby around with these names? FOX News is the propaganda arm of the fascist Republican Party.
I love the idea of going after FOX News for violations of campaign contributions. Take all the money spent by FOX News, and subtract it from the amount the Republican Party can spend for the next decade. Bury them once and for all.
October 11th, 2009 at 7:07 pm“WH Communications Director: Flatulent Noise operates as ‘a whine of the Republipimp Party’”
There. Fixed that headline for you, Faiz.
October 11th, 2009 at 7:17 pmoh, after due consideration, I concur. Larry the Septic Tank Guy is faux and a troll. I think he’s a Flatulent Noise Channel ad guy, trying a little head-fake false flag trolling. (ad = advertising, admin, adverb, adjective, take a number…)
Hey. Larry. When the main sanitary utility district near you expands into your service area, are you going to commit sewerside or sewerpipe?
And by the way, it is dood, especially if it’s the contractive form of doody or doodies, with which you should have some familiarity.
October 11th, 2009 at 7:23 pmAbsolutely indisputable
October 11th, 2009 at 7:50 pmyeah, ok….well, if that’s true, then what does that make ALL the other so-called networks, hmmmmm?
October 11th, 2009 at 8:09 pmYou know, the Communist News Network, the Always Barack Channel, the Constantly Barack Syncophants, the National Barack Channel, and last but certainly not least, the Most Syncophantic National Barack Channel.
mannetino
They dont exist. YOU are obviously an ignorant sheeple moron though who has been brainwashed to an extent that would humiliate any rational human being
October 11th, 2009 at 8:13 pmErrrmmmm….Does anybody but me think Larry the Septic Tank Guy just _might_ be another parody troll?
October 11th, 2009 at 8:24 pmThe Fox Propaganda Network
“We LIE-You’re STUPID and believe us!”
October 11th, 2009 at 8:48 pmTo Septice Tank Guy,
It’s too bad you oh-so-smart conservatives–particularly the ones who troll here–can’t spell PLAIN ENGLISH. And, BTW, I don’t give a hoot what kind of sticker you keep on your tank; unlike you, I believe in free speech–even for wingnuts.
Larry the Septic Tank Guy says:
October 11th, 2009 at 10:18 pmLet me tell you lefties something. I work and my wife stays home and raises the kids, yeah to you it’s a real
“alturnate(SIC)life style” BUT when I come home after a hard day I don’t want to see some chick with scary eye make up whining about poor, defenseless minorities or how the earth is turning into a baked potato, I WANT THE NEWS! And I get the news, fair and balanced and in PLANE(SIC) ENGLISH from the good folks at Fox. See they have an idea over there, THEY REPORT AND I DECIDE! You don’t want to watch? Fine. This is why we conservatives are smarter than you.
To mannettino,
If what you write is so, I wonder why someone so outwardly opposed to President Obama like Lou Dobbs continues to appear on CNN.
mannettino says:
October 11th, 2009 at 10:45 pmyeah, ok….well, if that’s true, then what does that make ALL the other so-called networks, hmmmmm?
You know, the Communist News Network,…
#99
October 11th, 2009 at 11:08 pmIntrepid you are SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And so is TP. Nothing but educated elitist libtards on this site.
Kenneth. You are stupid. You are a moron and since everyone alerady KNOWS how stupid you ConTRAITORS are you dont have to try so hard. Your incredible ignorance is so well known you can coast a bit now. So why dont you STFU and shove it up your tarhole you ignorant punkass troll?
October 11th, 2009 at 11:12 pmDebs,
October 11th, 2009 at 11:25 pmGet a new vocabulary. You’re boring me with your redundant vile responses to me everytime. Think up some new insults and get back to me.
Rant On:
Okay…anyone with an ounce of intelligences already knew this. What’s the point of bringing it up? It won’t get us affordable health care with a public option, it won’t bring the troops home from Iraq or Afghanistan and it won’t help create any new American jobs, so what’s the point?
Seriously, this is just more fuel to stir up the loons on the right and at the Fox entertainment channel who could turn around and say the same thing about MSNBC.
How about both parties stop with the mud slinging and start doing the job they were elected to do! Is that too much to ask?
Rant Off.
October 11th, 2009 at 11:39 pmintelligence….
October 11th, 2009 at 11:39 pmKenneth says:
#99
Intrepid you are SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And so is TP. Nothing but educated elitist libtards on this site.
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LMAO! Are you saying you and your ilk on the right are uneducated average Joes? LMAO!
Better do some research there Kenny, your party is the one who defends and protects the interests of the elites and don’t give a damn about you or the rest of the average Joe’s who vote for them. They only care about big business, mega corporations and the wealthy…..fool!
October 11th, 2009 at 11:44 pmEugeneDebs, don’t forget it was Tweety who proclaimed that GWB’s head should be up on Mt. Rushmore, had an obvious man crush on Willard Romney and his “broad” shoulders and was apparently sexually aroused by the aroma of Fred Thompson’s aftershave lotion.
October 11th, 2009 at 11:50 pmKennethTROLL
Of COURSE they are redundant PUNK. THAT is the point. You spew the same old same old idiocy day after day. So I regurgitate the same old troll repellant. You ARE stupid. Just like the other trolls. You are spewing idiotic Limborg insults. Like YOU thought up libtard. For some reason you think you DESERVE any originality from me? You think I am obligated to think up shiny new responses to the moronic spew I have already seen fifty times? Just STFU. You are stupid. You are always going to BE stupid and until you, on the off chance it EVER happens, come up with an original thought all you will get is all you deserve. My castoff golden oldies.
October 12th, 2009 at 12:31 amUncle Fester. Yeah Tweety flits from man crush to man crush and MOST of the time his heartsigns fall on Repubs. How demented do you have to be though to say that Bush shines with a sort of sunny nobility? Or that Bush belongs on Mt Rushmore? Yeah he is an example of liberal bias. IF you care nothing about reality that is and unfortunatly most of our trolls think if reality as pure poison
October 12th, 2009 at 12:34 amUncle Fester Lurks says:
How about both parties stop with the mud slinging and start doing the job they were elected to do! Is that too much to ask?
So far, only the Dems have been trying to have a conversation and debate. What they got from the opposition was town hall meetings with astroturfers. The Dems have allowed a lot of input on the health care bill and the Reps keep stalling the bill. What more can the Dems do that they have not done already? If the Dems acted like the Reps did when they had control, the health care bill would have been passed months ago.
October 12th, 2009 at 1:07 am@ 164. EugeneDebs says: “Uncle Fester. Yeah Tweety flits from man crush to man crush and MOST of the time his heartsigns fall on Repubs. How demented do you have to be though to say that Bush shines with a sort of sunny nobility? Or that Bush belongs on Mt Rushmore? Yeah he is an example of liberal bias. IF you care nothing about reality that is and unfortunatly most of our trolls think if reality as pure poison” October 12th, 2009 at 12:34 am
A moment of true brown-nosing suck, that was. The problem is that it wasn’t Shining True Nobility, it was reflection off of flop sweat.
Dang, yer good, EugeneD. Nailed it again…
October 12th, 2009 at 1:21 amThank you Virtual Pebble. I appreciate that
October 12th, 2009 at 2:07 amIsn’t there a First Amendment problem here?
October 12th, 2009 at 10:26 amThe two problems with the Right right now are 1) They’ve been nothing but movement conservatives at least since 1994 and arguably since 1980, and 2) their ideological and policy points have been shown to be disasters.
The Republicans have always been Party before Country, but they’re now Party before Ideology. They trumpet their free-market libertarianism around (since it’s the closest thing to a philosophy they’ve got), but they’ll avoid Ron Paul like he’s got scabies. They’ll despise John McCain, but when the decks are ordered clear for his run(remember how mysteriously Mittens dropped out?) was there any fragmentation? Diid Ann Coulter make good on her threat? Nooooo.
It’s possible for conservatives to be isolationists as much as being imperialists. It’s possible for them to be fiscal conservatives as well as spendthrifts. It’s possible for them to be atheists (Randists) as well as Christians, it’s possible for them to be jealous guardians of individual liberty as well as exponents of a security state. But these days they’re all together on those positions–and completely dependent on their political leadership.
Under Bush, the party line was ‘Reagan proved deficits don’t matter.’ Noe it’s ‘America is broke!” Under Bush, it as the Unitary Presidency and warrantless wiretapping. Now it’s “Obama is taking too much power to himself!” And in best whiplash we’ve seen, they’ve rejoiced over the low opinion he world has over egotistical Obama in not getting the Olympics–and mere seconds later growled over the high opinion they have by giving him the Nobel Prize. 180 degrees and does this bother them? Nooooo…
This whole ‘Obama theMessiah” thing is classic projection. Comparisons of GWB to Winston Churchill were fine, and righty bloggers calling him an underappreciated genius? sure. But when Obama takes a position we criticize not only the position but his style.
Our allegiance is to ideals and principles. And if Barack Obama betrays them, we’ll dump him without a qualm. Many already have.
But Righties? They’ll still vote for David Vitter.
But the bigger problem is that if they try to rise to their principals, they screwed them up so bad they broke the instruments. They screwed up unilateralism so badly they all but broke the military and made us worse than a pariah–they were well on their way to making us a joke and a has been. And their deregulated free-market economy screwed the country up so badly they destroyed the financial industry and the automotive industry.
And now, of course, they’re screaming at Obama’s efforts to fix it.
The Republicans have shown that they’ll cheer any dimwit, from W to Sarah to Addison Chase Wilson to Orly Taitz-that they’l change their line on a dime–and that they think that being the anti-Obama party is going to get them somewhere instead of standing for something.
It’s just so obvious and pathetic.
October 12th, 2009 at 11:41 amMany thanks to the Septic Tank cleaner for demonstrating the general intelligence level of Fox viewers:
“And I get the news, fair and balanced and in PLANE ENGLISH from the good folks at Fox.”
“Plane” English? Beautiful, Septic guy. Beautiful. Give us all you got!
October 12th, 2009 at 12:01 pmAnd yet, more Americans choose to watch Fox new at 3:00AM than watch CNN at 8:00PM. The country’s population is mostly center right and they like to watch TV that reflects their values. Being screeched at by MSNBC or ignored by the NYT carries consequences to those news organizations that ignore the majority sentiment in the U.S.
October 12th, 2009 at 12:14 pmRetiredE9: “The country’s population is mostly center right and they like to watch TV that reflects their values.”
Wow, that’s an interesting analysis. If it’s true, can you explain the last two elections?
October 12th, 2009 at 12:31 pmRetiredE9: “Being screeched at by MSNBC or ignored by the NYT carries consequences to those news organizations that ignore the majority sentiment in the U.S.”
You’ve got such a nice argument there. Too bad it’s not supported by any facts. Maybe you’ve been on another planet for the last year so you’ve unaware of this, but the vast majority of voters picked Democrats in 2006 and 2008. So, we already know what the “majority sentiment” is in the U.S. We don’t need you to tell us.
October 12th, 2009 at 12:34 pmWH communications director: Fox News operates as ‘a wing of the Republican Party.’
MSNBC operates as ‘a wing of the Democratic Party.’
October 12th, 2009 at 7:12 pmhttp://politicsandsociety.usc.edu/2008/02/as-seen-on-tv.html
Only ‘Red’ viewers watch television that ‘reflects their values’ at the exclusion of all other opinions, RetiredE9.
The country’s population is far from ‘center right,’ sorry.
October 12th, 2009 at 7:41 pmNo DrD No first amendment issue whatsoever
October 12th, 2009 at 9:04 pmRetired
You dont know what you are talking about. You spew the propaganda you have been brainwashed with but its BS. More people watch ANY of the networks by FAR for news than FOX. This country is mostly center LEFT not center right. Try to recall the last two elections. The only reason Fox has ANY claim to a lot of viewers is that there are meany venues to get real news. So they split the reasoned viewers between them. FOX is the only destination for those who prefer to be lied to and want PROPAGANDA instead of information. So its good to know you are so proud that a whole bunch of people are getting fooled like you are. Good luck with that
October 12th, 2009 at 9:07 pmDr Venture. No it doesnt you are a liar and a fool and an ignorant punkass troll
October 12th, 2009 at 9:09 pmIf Fox news is sooo bad why do people still watch it. I like to flip back from Fox to CNN to MSNBC…I miss my local news though my current cable companey does not offer local channels. I enjoy Fox the most because I can usually find facts elsewere online to back them up I have had some issues with CNN. I do not understand why President Obama refuses to go onto Fox news. It seems a bit childish to me almost like he is afraid to be given hard questions that he might not be able to give a good answer to. I seems as if President Obama does not like when people disagree with him, he appears to become upset about it.
October 13th, 2009 at 1:54 amHappy Retirement Sergeant Major you have earned it!
October 13th, 2009 at 1:59 amLarry the Septic Tank Guy I love to see a working man. Do not let those who have to resort to name calling and talking about a mans wife get you down. They do not understand the only way to get their point across is to be respecful to others and honer others opinions as what they are. Some people do not like it when others voice opinions that go agenst their own opinions and must attempt to degrade them
October 13th, 2009 at 2:09 am@ 174. kwsventures says: “WH communications director: Fox News operates as ‘a wing of the Republican Party.’” MSNBC operates as ‘a wing of the Democratic Party.’ October 12th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Tha choo, vently? Or is it Kurt Walters? If you aren’t tweeter jock strap Kurt, vently, you probably ought to get with him on some IM service and figure out which of you is kwsventures #1 and which is kwsventures #2. You should take #2. It would make EugeneDebs very happy.
As for your comment about MSNBC, I think the whole business has been much oversimplified. Flatulent Noise Channel is a branch of Noise Corporation and Rupert “Murder” Murdock, who holds US citizenship but is beholden to no one, gives them their marching orders, which apparently includes having Roger Ailes do little but spew Republipimp talking points. I think Rupert would also like to produce and own the next President; wouldn’t be the first time someone from the media tried that one. Can I cite a source for that? Well, no, it’s suppostion, but given that Hearst damn near single handedly started a war, it isn’t very far fetched to think a “press lord” might try to have a President of his choosing elected, and Rupert is exactly the kind of person who might see an opportunity in doing that.
OTOH, MSNBC doesn’t seem to put up all that many Democratic Party talking points. Then again, MSNBC is just a small part of NBC Universal, which in turn is part of GE. They have their own interests, but I think it’s probably safe to say that MSNBC wouldn’t be going in the direction it is if GE management and their analytical team didn’t think there was a fair audience share there.
October 13th, 2009 at 2:14 amProstate Cancer Death rate by country:
US 10%
UK 604%
Norway 457
I am watching Glenn Beck RIGHT now! WOW I am glad that someone can show me those Statistics. Makes me wonder what is wrong with those countrys Health Care Systems…..
October 13th, 2009 at 2:17 amTo NinerFan,
You pretty much summed up below the “intelligence” level of TP’s rightwing trolls. I really got a kick out of the Septic Tank Guy’s assertion that “conservatives are smarter than you” after he wrote about “alternute(SIC) lifestyles” and “PLANE(SIC) ENGLISH.”
Some years ago, I politely tried to tell the Tracy (now Tracy 5) troll that people might pay more attention to his posts if he paid a bit more attention to his spelling. He responded, “Your grammer sucks.” Well, maybe my grammer(SIC) does suck but not my grammar.
More recently the Crotalus2 troll referred to “Dan Issa” who might make President Obama sweat. After I asked him/her if he/she meant “Darrell Issa the car thief,” he curtly responded that he meant “Dan Issa, the ranking senior member on the Congressional Oversight Committee” and accused me of being an ignorant 12-year old. However, the Congressman’s name, in fact, is Darrell Issa, and he does have a past involvement in car theft.
Perhaps most hypocritical of all was the “amused by hypocrites” troll who implied to me that the adverb “hypocritically” does not exist in any English dictionaries, but it actually does.
NinerFan says:
October 13th, 2009 at 3:40 amMany thanks to the Septic Tank cleaner for demonstrating the general intelligence level of Fox viewers:
SoldierGurl,
While I admit there has been some name-calling by certain posters on this thread, including by Kenneth on the right (”elitist libtards”), I haven’t noticed anyone talking about a man’s wife on this thread. I also haven’t noticed many trolls here expressing their opinions in a respectful way. Incidentally, have you ever heard of the apostrophe, used in English to express the possessive sense? I suggest you learn how to use it.
SoldierGurl says:
October 13th, 2009 at 3:52 amLarry the Septic Tank Guy I love to see a working man. Do not let those who have to resort to name calling and talking about a mans wife get you down. They do not understand the only way to get their point across is to be respecful(SIC) to others and honer(SIC) others opinions as what they are. Some people do not like it when others voice opinions that go agenst(SIC) their own opinions and must attempt to degrade them
Really?
If you did not already know this then your living on Mars.
Slow News day I guess.
October 13th, 2009 at 9:23 amBreaking news: Water is wet!!
Coming up next: Elvis is alive and currently living in Utah under the Witness Protection Program!!
Later: President Obama stands up to pee!! (got this from another thread)..
When will they come out and admit that they’re about as newsworthy as the National Enquirer (sp?)? And the sad thing is, they’re wondering why their ratings are sinking….hmm…
October 13th, 2009 at 10:37 amI guess they don’t know how to connect the dots… Oh wait, Glenn Beck can show them.. All they have to do is stay glued to FAKE NEWS until his show comes on. I mean that’s how their viewership number stays so high, right?
October 13th, 2009 at 10:46 amso the President and the White House should be sancrosact? Like it was for the previous occupant? I’m glad they cleared that up.
What incredible arrogance.
October 13th, 2009 at 10:55 am@ 189. RetiredE9 says: so the President and the White House should be sancrosact?
Uh, no.
Like it was for the previous occupant?
Glad you’ve taken note that the previous tried to pack press conferences and appearances. He had a real hard-core propaganda operation going, trying to control every aspect from the get-go; much more-so than the new guy. The new guy doesn’t have problems with answering hostile questions; hell, he doesn’t have problems trying to answer questions. That may be one of the significant differences between being a lawyer and being a socially connected MBA.
I’m glad they cleared that up.
Aw, come on, Super Chief (or Super Sarge or Super Gunny or Super Airhead (or whatever it is the AirForce calls E9s)), it’s just collateral damage in the media wars.
What incredible arrogance.
Why yes, the Shrub WH was incredibly arrogant; the Obama WH seems to alternate between professional, cool, and somewhere behind the curve.
October 13th, 2009 at 10:55 am
October 13th, 2009 at 12:04 pmZooey says:
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Y’all don’t give Larry too hard a time. His knuckles are hurting after he socked the wife in the eye cuz dinner wasn’t on the table on time.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
99 What the GOP REALLY means … says:
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Larry trains dogs to hump his wife.
October 11th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Like I said rude comments about some guys wife.
October 13th, 2009 at 1:01 pmCalling people trolls come on! I have not heard name calling like that since I was a kid.
October 13th, 2009 at 1:10 pm@ 192. SoldierGurl says: Calling people trolls come on! I have not heard name calling like that since I was a kid. October 13th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
What would you prefer we call them, SG? The people who are called ‘trolls’ deserve to be collected under some sort of moniker, some name, and troll is fitting. Some of them do get called rather less polite terms. They are grown-ups, just as we are, and they can defend themselves; for the most part, they don’t defend themselves well, but that’s because they come onto the site with a box of insults, thinking they’re gonna open a can of righty whoopbutt, knock over all the wimp pussy libs and progressives, and then find out they’ve opened a hornet’s nest of invective.
We are not obliged to be polite to people who come onto the site with no sense of decency or consideration. People who come onto the site with a negative opinion disguised as an assertion of fact will be disabused of the opinion, and if they persist in being nasty about it, that will be reflected in what they receive.
I’d prefer to call them trogs or retro, but trolls it is.
October 13th, 2009 at 2:23 pmWell, lets see what the social psychologists and political scientists have to say about the matter, shall we?
“It appears that conservatism has pathological dimensions manifested in violence and distorted psycho-sexual development” (Boshier, R. (1983). Education inside: Motives for participation in prison education programmes. Vancouver: British Columbia University).
This is supported by a study conducted by Walker, Rowe, and Quincey (Authoritarianism and sexual aggression. Journal of Personality & Social Psychology, 65(5), 1036-1045) in which there was a direct correlation between authoritarianism and sexually aggressive behavior.
An investigation done by Muehlenhard (Misinterpreted dating behaviors and the risk of date rape. Journal of Social and Clinical Psychology, 6(1), 2-37) revealed that rape justification and aggression toward subordinate individuals was much higher in traditional (conservative personality) than non-traditional personalities”
“Conservatism is not the doctrine of the intellectual elite or of the more intelligent segments of the population, but the reverse. By every measure available to us, conservative beliefs are found most frequently among the uninformed, the poorly educated, and the less intelligent” (McClosky, Conservatism and personality. American Political Science Review, 52, 27-45)
Oh, dear! Not looking very good so far, is it? Perhaps Altemeyer, a man who has been studying conservative/authoritarian behaviour for decades has to say on the matter. Surely he’ll straighten out this terrible blasphemy.
“The studies explain so much about these people. Yes, the research shows they are very aggressive, but why are they so hostile? Yes, experiments show they are almost totally uninfluenced by reasoning and evidence, but why are they so dogmatic? Yes, studies show the Religious Right has more than its fair share of hypocrites, from top to bottom; but why are they two-faced, and how come one face never notices the other? Yes, their leaders can give the flimsiest of excuses and even outright lies about things they’ve done wrong, but why do the rank-and-file believe them? What happens when authoritarian followers find the authoritarian leaders they crave and start marching together?”
Dr. Robert Altemeyer – The Authoritarians
http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/
Hmm. Well what about the US’s own social scientists, now working for the DHS counter-terrorism section?
“A meta-analysis (88 samples, 12 countries, 22,818 cases) confirms that several psychological variables predict political conservatism: death anxiety (weighted mean r .50); system instability (.47); dogmatism–intolerance of ambiguity (.34); openness to experience (–.32); uncertainty tolerance (–.27); needs for order, structure, and closure (.26); integrative complexity (–.20); fear of threat and loss (.18); and self-esteem (–.09). The core ideology of conservatism stresses resistance to change and justification of inequality and is motivated by needs that vary situationally and dispositionally to manage uncertainty and threat.”
http://faculty.virginia.edu/haidtlab/jost.glaser.political-conservatism-as-motivated-social-cog.pdf
Seems pretty clear to me that the much-vaunted “liberal media” could be much harder on conservatism than they presently are….that is if in fact it ever really existed. However, the above-linked factual data strongly suggesting that this too was merely yet another conservative myth thrown up as a means of protecting themselves from the truth of what miserable little creatures they truly are.
October 13th, 2009 at 3:53 pmSG. Did Beck happen to include these statistics with his usual set of lies…lies you’ve been repeatedly warned about but continue to believe?
Each year prostate cancer caused 245 deaths per 100,000 population for men over 65 in the US 2000 (SEER Cancer Statistics Review, 1975-2000, NIDDK)
(Compare that to the 10 Beck shoveled you. Now doesn’t that figure seem somewhat more liklly than the glaring and blatantly low-balled number you re-posted here?)
Prostate cancer death rates for various sub-populations in the USA:
African American men have the highest rate in the world (CBCF Health Organisation, 2004)
Kills 1 in 23 African American men in America CBCF Health Organisation, 2004)
12.9 per 100,000 Asian/Pacific Islander people died from prostate cancer in USA 2001 (NCHS, 2003)
19.0 per 100,000 American Indian or Alaska Native people died from prostate cancer in USA 2001 (NCHS, 2003)
26.6 per 100,000 white people died from prostate cancer in USA 2001 (NCHS, 2003)
66.1 per 100,000 black people died from prostate cancer in USA 2001 (NCHS, 2003)
Rates of death from prostate cancer are dropping in Canada 2004 (Canadian Cancer Statistics, National Cancer Institute of Canada, 2004)
27 per 100,000 deaths in men from prostate cancer in Canada 2004 (Canadian Cancer Statistics, National Cancer Institute of Canada, 2004)
October 13th, 2009 at 4:48 pmTo SoldierGurl:
You complain about being called a troll, however what I believe was the SepticTankGuy’s first comment ever on TP was: “Your(SIC) all a bunch of liberal pukes!” Those of us on the left have also been called by rightwing trolls posting here “libtards, f.cktards, terrorist-lovers, communists, unpatriotic, uneducated and silly, educated elitists, homos, idiots, shepple, lazy welfare recipients,” etc. Compared to that, I think being called “troll” is fairly mild. But if that still hurts your “dainty” feelings, you shouldn’t be posting/trolling on a progressive site.
SoldierGurl says:
October 13th, 2009 at 11:40 pmCalling people trolls come on! I have not heard name calling like that since I was a kid.
Of all the knowledge available in the universe, what portion is contained within the confines of your brain? vajina estetigi
October 17th, 2009 at 4:11 amThank you for your sharing.!
October 17th, 2009 at 11:20 am