In May, the Wonk Room first reported on the sordid history of Republican operative Tim Phillips — who now heads the front group Americans for Prosperity (AFP) — with respect to his long history of orchestrating “grassroots” lobbying efforts for nefarious corporate and political clients. For example, Phillips helped run a “religious and pro-family” campaign for Enron’s largely successful attempt to achieve energy deregulation policies, and in another campaign used anti-Semitic attacks against Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) during Cantor’s first run for Congress.
Last night, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow called Phillips out for using deceptive tactics and fear in his campaigns, noting in particular his role in creating the ads which portrayed former Sen. Max Cleland (D-GA) — a triple amputee and Vietnam war veteran — as a terrorist sympathizer. Phillips stood by every single example of his work for his Republican and corporate clients, adding that he indeed does believe Cleland didn’t have the “courage to lead on the war on terror.”
Maddow extracted confessions from Phillips that he had in fact worked for a Jack Abramoff client to pressure members of Congress to vote against legislation that would have made the U.S. commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands — where Chinese workers were forced into prostitution and mandatory abortions — subject to federal wage and worker safety laws. Even given the deplorable conditions at the sweatshops, Phillips was unrepentant. “I don’t have an issue with it,” said Phillips, adding, “I’m not going to disown it.”
Phillips defended his methods with a curious argument. He disregarded the morals of his tactics, then explained that no matter what his organization says, who funds them, and how they operate, he and his corporate backers have every right to be “involved in the process.” Maddow conceded that point, but asserted that AFP’s fear-mongering and lying is simply bad for the country:
MADDOW: And I have to tell you, because we’re making this about you and me, is that I personally think that you and the folks who do what you do are a parasite who gets fat on Americans’ fears.
Watch it:
AFP, which was founded and is currently funded by David Koch of the Koch Industries oil refining empire, maintains a variety of mini-front groups to attack progressive labor efforts, clean energy legislation, and most recently, health reform. AFP places multimillion dollar ad buys knocking reform, employs dozens of high level Republican operatives planning “grassroots” events, and rents buses crisscrossing the country to shuttle anti-reform speakers to their rallies.
Welcome back, Rachel Maddow!
October 16th, 2009 at 3:23 pmGoing after Max Cleland the way the GOP did was wrong on so very many levels.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pmEven when she is under the weather she will brook none of that talking over business the repigs are so famous for
October 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pmParasite is too kind of a description.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:30 pmThird-world superstitions will get you exploited like third-world trash. This is the model the Republicans have brought home to the US. It works best in the third-world south.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:31 pmI’m for prosperity too, but the weather is still clear. No sight of trickling down.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:33 pm‘Parasite Who Gets Fat On Americans’ Fears’
Sounds like jeffy bovine, Limbaugh, Beck and the entire fear and smear base of the GOP! ;)
October 16th, 2009 at 3:33 pmMaddow Calls Out Americans for Prosperity President: ‘Parasite Who Gets Fat On Americans’ Fears’
– - Phillips could only muster a pathetic, “What about George Soros?”
{head hits keyboard}
October 16th, 2009 at 3:33 pmI will never forgive him for what he did to Max Cleland. Never.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:33 pmCalling him a parasite is an insult to parasites. Rachel was just being nice.
Max Cleland has more courage in his left ear lobe than this scumbag has in his whole body.
Cretin.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:36 pm#3 konchster says:
Even when she is under the weather she will brook none of that talking over business the repigs are so famous for
… not that he didn’t try. And he also avoided answering her questions, instead bringing attempted tu quoque ‘arguments’ and ‘red herrings’.
Cheers,
October 16th, 2009 at 3:37 pmI do have to give some credit to Mr. Phillips for coming to speak face to face with Rachel. These sorts of one-on-one face-offs have died ever since the “Crossfire” contests. There were barbs thrown, but notice there were no shouting matches between commentator and guest.
I’m staring at you, Bill O’Reilly.
However, I do feel that Mr. Phillips doesn’t recognize the meaning of “grassroots” as one that has no involvement with lobbyists. Their causes may have started small, but they were fueled by big business.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:37 pmAs long as there is Rachel, there is hope.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:38 pmIs it true the head of Koch industries dad was a co-founder of The John Birche Society?
If so, that explains where all this kookyness lately has been coming from.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:39 pmFrom the link in the article, above:
Process that through a Republican brain, and it comes out:
Baby Jesus doesn’t want the commies to stop me selling teenagers to sex tourists like Rush Limbaugh, and then forcing the girls to abort. Bill Clinton opposes traditional American values lik ehot underage sex and forced abortion. Baby Jesus is crying for all the fetuses the liberal media wouldn’t let us grind into cattle feed.
And, after that tour through the mind of a Republican, I need a bath.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:40 pmhttp://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=KOCH_FAMILY_FOUNDATIONS
Crazy
October 16th, 2009 at 3:42 pmEnough of the AFP smears!
What about ACORN?
October 16th, 2009 at 3:43 pmTapeworms and leeches have more integrity than these mofos.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:43 pmYeah, I had to turn it off midway through the second segment because it got so uncomfortable. Then again, I used to have to turn off Three’s Company when Mr. Roper was about to uncover Jack’s ruse.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pmmayfly larvae know more about grassroots than this parasite.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:44 pmWay to go Rachel >>>>>>> I watch it last night an though hell shes making this guy look like the jerk he is.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:45 pmJust the fact he is and was proud of the attack add on Mr Cleland make me want to just punch this Coward out. how dare dose he call some one who had lost a lot for this country. Even if he was soft on terrorist thats his right and he bares the scars to be able to make that call.
I am thrilled to see what motivates a “Principled Republican“.
I am trying to remember an episode in the Temple, money changers.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:48 pmRUCerious says:
“…mayfly larvae know more about grassroots than this parasite.”
That’s not much then, is it?
Given that mayfly larvae live in the muck at the bottom of lakes and streams…
;)
I would liken these afflictions upon society to viruses.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:51 pmThe thing I love about Rachel is that she NEVER backs down. Owing to the fact that she does her homework and is always prepared is a big part of that.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:53 pmDid he by any chance use the excuse that he was exercising his freedom of leech?
October 16th, 2009 at 3:53 pmWatching last night, it was pretty obvious to me that Rachel was both VERY angry at this guy’s tactics and continual denial that his movements are far from grassroots as well as being VERY concerned about coming across as a some kind of b!tch. IMHO, she had every right to be angry for all of us and she handled herself with class in her assertive confrontation of him. Philips indeed comes across as a parasitic SOB, both in his movements and in this interview.
Great job, Rachel!
October 16th, 2009 at 3:53 pm#12 Purple State says:
However, I do feel that Mr. Phillips doesn’t recognize the meaning of “grassroots” as one that has no involvement with lobbyists. Their causes may have started small, but they were fueled by big business.
And more important, as Maddow pointed out, is the direction of control; top-down here, not “from the grass-roots up”. It’s Phillips that’s setting the agenda (under pay from his masters, no less), not the people he’s preaching to with his bus and speakers. In his defence, the tea-bagger rubes don’t know enough to put together a cogent position for themselves; all they supply is the anger and vitriol … on command.
Cheers,
October 16th, 2009 at 3:55 pmWAY TO GO RACHEL MADDOW !!!
that was great watching her go at it last night… EXCELLENT!
thank you for posting this, TP…
October 16th, 2009 at 3:55 pmA$$wipe Phillips came off as a lying wuss. He was no match for Rachel’s intellect and preparation. It was one of the most enjoyable interviews I’ve seen in a long time.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:59 pmThis guy justifies his actions simply because he is able to dupe a percentage of people, then he calls it a grass roots movement. I hope this guy decides his job is not worth his soul.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:00 pmI don’t believe Rachel should have even conceded the point to him that they have a right to be involved in the process. Freedom of speech does not condone yelling fire in a crowded theater. Their “participation in the process” is along the same lines. They are needlessly creating fear and panic in the public. They are not trying to participate in the debate. They are effectively trying to kill it.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:01 pmApe-Man says
I hope this guy decides his job is not worth his soul.
To late you have to give up your sole before you join.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:02 pmRachel has the one thing repugs don’t have: FACTS
October 16th, 2009 at 4:03 pmNot a chance. This piece of pond scum still doesn’t think what he did/does is wrong, even after getting punk-slapped by Rachel.
There’s no hope for these vermin.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:04 pmginslinger says:
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Wow! That’s quite the adams apple there Mandow!
Jealous much?
October 16th, 2009 at 4:06 pmginslinger says:
Wow! That’s quite the adams apple there Mandow!
You sure you aren’t looking at a picture of mAnn Coulter? LOL! ;)
October 16th, 2009 at 4:07 pmTracy-1 says:
I wondering if Maddow will ever have the courage to call out Al Gore for doing the exact same thing…getting fat (literally) and rich (literally) on America’s fears?
LOL! Ironic considering that it’s “Big Oil”, “Big Coal” and the Republicans that are getting rich on the “fear” that Democrats are just trying to “steal their money” as fossil fuel companies gouge us! Project much – tracist? ;)
October 16th, 2009 at 4:08 pmTracy-1 says:
I wondering if Maddow will ever have the courage to call out Al Gore for doing the exact same thing…getting fat (literally) and rich (literally) on America’s fears?
How much money does the Eric Odom and the rest of the teabaggers make on preying on the fears of you wingnut extremists? How much money do the homophobic groups make in “religious” donations based on “fear”? How about the “abortion” fear hysterics you folks are prone to?
You are the party of fear, and every single stance of your party is 100% based on fear and nothing else.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:10 pmWhile Gore is playing off people’s fears, his arguments are based on scientific studies (and I will admit that there are just as many scientific studies debunking Gore’s claims). But at least there is a basis for what Gore is pushing.
Phillips’ work is solely based on invective and lies.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:10 pmIn his defence, the tea-bagger rubes don’t know enough to put together a cogent position for themselves; all they supply is the anger and vitriol … on command.
They do remind me of some troll army…Does Orcdom from Lord of the Rings sound familiar??
October 16th, 2009 at 4:12 pmHow does a guy get rich giving $ away to charities.
He was rich to begin with.
That just doen’t make sense in so many ways Tracy.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:12 pmginslinger says:
Wow! That’s quite the adams apple there Mandow!
Aren’t you one of the trolls who claim that resorting to personal insults is proof that you’ve got nothing?
I realize this is just proof of your screaming homophobia, because Rachel Maddow is a very attractive woman. Just because you’re threatened by her intelligence, her success and her integrity is no reason for you to make up crap about her appearance. It just helps prove what a loser you are.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:13 pmI never realized that drinking gin caused one’s vision to narrow, allowing one to see only a person’t throat, and to make the drinker go deaf to what the person was saying.
I love coming to TP and learning new stuff! Thanks, ginslinger.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:14 pmgumble-bee-itch, go easy on ginslinger. I think he has insufficient intelligence to be jealous of anything that Rachel Maddow has, except maybe a girlfriend.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:17 pmNot that ginslinger would ever be mistaken for a man.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:19 pmTracy_1
October 16th, 2009 at 4:23 pmAm I to believe that you think Al Gore sufficiently powerful to have orchaestrated a global hoax?
Rachel Maddow for president!!!
October 16th, 2009 at 4:25 pmIndividuals like Maddow can only do so much. It is up to organized labor and other progressive groups to organize counter demonstrations. The Koch company and their lobbyists have offices and counter demonstrations at these places will make them feel uncomfortable. The same applies to Fox News. They have attacked groups who seem unable to fight back with the people power at their disposal. It is time for these groups to take back the national dialogue by exposing these fake grassroots groups and making conservatives feel the sting of bad publicity.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:25 pm… and another thing…
message to President Obama -
please don’t ever again equate what RACHEL MADDOW does
with the “cable chatter”…
you would do well, sir, to give a huge dose of credit to her…
and keith olbermann and ed schultz also…
they are your only defense, if you think about it…
and blogs such as ThinkProgress, of course.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:26 pmAnd when they went to the break…
…Phillips asked timidly: “Ms. Maddow, can I please have my balls back now?”
I’d gladly do a Pay-Per-View for an hour’s worth of a Maddow vs. Beck.
Mmmmmmm, slow-mo castration.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:26 pmIf it isn’t this time and if it isn’t Maddow — although it very well could be her and now — soon comes the lance to the boil, we all can see the rightwing fear-filled hate-pus head surfacing, and popped in these times with the equivalent of the ‘have-you-no-sense-of-decency‘ shaft through the throat of McCarthy in his time … at the advent of TV.
Maybe today’s devastation of the rightwinger cretin clutch is by their own LIARS simply two words: mission accomplished.
While majorly normal people everywhere see plainly it’s not humankind’s ‘mission’ and it’s not ‘accomplished’ … thankfully.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:28 pmSmarmy is the word that came to my mind when watching this guy last night.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:31 pmWatching last night, I was amazed that Philips seemed not to give a damn about anything but his paycheck and unreservedly so, someone give me money and I will do whatever job they want. His attempt to minimize his overall role as then state he was doing this astroturfing as “for the good of the nation” was delusional. Unfortunately, those that fund him will probably not change their tactic.
This was the first time that I have ever seen Rachel state a personal opinion and she stated it clearly as her opinion.
For those who would rather deal in facts, she deserved a round of applause for not allowing this guy to weasel out of his historical and current actions.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:33 pmdbadass says:
Tracy_1
Am I to believe that you think Al Gore sufficiently powerful to have orchaestrated a global hoax?
This is from the “lunatic” that whines on about folks that wanted a full 911 investigation! LOL! The hypocrisy is hysterical! ;)
October 16th, 2009 at 4:35 pmI watched Rachel last night. (as I always do) Last night was a lesson in why we must have free speech and most importantly, a free, vibrant press and news media. Rachel was magnificent.
Listening to Tim Phillips answer Rachel’s questions with all the compassion and warmth of a tip-pot despot with his finger on a daisy cutter bomb trigger was breathtaking.
Thank the Gods for HD TV. I’ve never seen the face and cold blue eyes the likes of Tim Phillips who so un-apologetically sees human beings as mere insects that are in his way and to be eradicated purely for profit so closely before.
It has been said through out the ages in many ways: “the LOVE of money is the root of all evil”
Tim Phillips is one of the purist embodiments of that truth that I have seen and I am deeply grateful to Rachel for her courage to speak her heart to someone who is pure poison to our democracy. Last night, she spoke for me as well.
Tim Phillips is a loathsome despot of a human being. A walking, talking hypocrite and psychopath.
The Christian-right GOP worships him, his methods and those he supports. Republicans should be ashamed of themselves to the core of their beings for embracing the likes of him.
Sadly, they are not and we owe it to ourselves to fully grasp the depth of Mr. Phillip’s greed and depravity.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:36 pmDave N says:
While Gore is playing off people’s fears, his arguments are based on scientific studies (and I will admit that there are just as many scientific studies debunking Gore’s claims).
Why don’t you post a link to those peer-reviewed scientific studies that debunk Al Gore’s claims? Those links must be acutal scientific research which means peer-reviewed and presented in legitimate scientific journals.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:37 pmRachel has some balls. Too bad the same cannot be said for Phillips…
October 16th, 2009 at 4:43 pmRachel was outstanding last night!
October 16th, 2009 at 4:43 pmShe didn’t take Phillip’s bait when he tried to project his choices of corruption on her by weakly comparing it to her saying things on past shows that she might now regret.
Congratulations, Rachel, on taking the devil to task,
and outing him as the deceiving opportunist he really is.
ginslinger says:
Do you like chemistry?
Mathematics?
Do you, in fact, know anything?
October 16th, 2009 at 4:52 pmyou’ll notice, in that screenshot above, that rachel is standing up to shake this worm’s hand – and he is NOT…
guessing all that shit in his pants glued him to the chair…
October 16th, 2009 at 4:54 pmjust a play-troll, that gin.
all play – no game.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:55 pmMaddow did well last night but she did not trounce him. Phillips is a smooth talker and kept his cool. Rachel kept talking over him and that is what I hate about all the cable channel news. They have a 24 hour station and it would seem to me that they can allocate more time for these discussions without having to force the discussion into a small segment. It would have been even more interesting to have other people from both sides with the discussion. I am sure there are many other people who are familiar with these organizations that could have helped.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:57 pmThese Republican propagandists have angered God. I Picture Rachel Maddow as God’s right hand, wielding a metaphorical lightning bolt going right into Satan’s black heart.
We are all tools of God, in the fight against the evil that manifests itself through the fascist Republican crime syndicate. Even if there is no God, we must still fight this virus, this evil, with all the strength we can muster.
They are down, but they aren’t going to die without a fight.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:59 pmHow did Al Gore get to be the boogie man in the Republicin psyche? Maybe that election thingy he actually won down in Florida a few years back. I can only imagine how much better off we would be now, only if…
October 16th, 2009 at 5:09 pmHey guninslinger
notice when the unintelligent and morally bankrupt have nothing to say, they spew out personal and false attacks. Typical of a below intelligent moron or a 7 year old on a bad sugar comedown.
to bad pathetic trolls
October 16th, 2009 at 5:09 pmAFP and Tim Phillips know exactly what grassroot movements are.
The choice of that terminology was a deliberate choice to divert attention from the true motives of this organization.
And if Tim Phillips ever had a soul, he sold it out a long time ago.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:14 pmwolfsinger is right, people like Phillips are psycopaths.
His rationalizations and denial last night, outside of being more professionally packaged, were not dissimilar to some of the Manson interviews I’ve seen.
GOP worships themselves and filthy lucre all the while praising Jeebus and waving the flag. Greedy Old Prions.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:14 pmTim Philips sounded like Dan Akroyd’s character Irwin Mainway
-the guy who made bag o glass and bag o rusty nails for kids – complete public relations bullshit…neither confirming or denying what was asked of him by using slippery language to avoid answering the questions or offending anyone.
Talking a lot but not saying anything.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:18 pmSo why do Mr. Phillips….and Mr. Berman before that….agree to be on the Rachel Maddow Show???
My guess is that they Recognize how devestatingly effective she is….
and they realize that they will be treated fairly…no yelling or editing.
I love how she gives EVERY Guest the opportunity to correct any statement she makes in the introduction…if they think she is not being fair or accurate.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:28 pmSlime ball. That is all.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:29 pmWhen I was in high school, (admittedly a long time ago) I had a friend of mine who’s father was an officer in the military and deeply Republican.
One day we got on the subject of gun ownership and specifically, “self defense”.
I asked him if we should all have guns in our houses for self defense and he told me, “you’d do better if you fixed the reason for crime and stop that than try to defend from a crook with a gun.” I asked him why and he told me, “the crook with the gun is comfortable with it”
Rachel allowed us all to see Tim Phillips for what he really is – a crook with the gun.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:32 pmthe man has no soul
October 16th, 2009 at 5:52 pm#64 pag2: If you watch Rachel on a regular basis you would know that she does not talk over the people she interviews.Every time she tried to answer Mr. Phillips or dispute whatever it was that he was selling,HE talked over her.He should be ashamed of himself and his mother should be embarrased at what a snotty little shit she raised.Jus sayin’.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:14 pmdiffrntdrummr says:
#64 pag2: If you watch Rachel on a regular basis you would know that she does not talk over the people she interviews.Every time she tried to answer Mr. Phillips or dispute whatever it was that he was selling,HE talked over her.
The talking over another person is annoying. She should have let him speak and finish his thought. Then she should have calmly ask pointed questions that are not open ended. The dishonesty of his answers is more apparent when it comes from his mouth.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:19 pm“proof is in the pudding”…
So, I guess by that measure Obama is a better, more courageous leader than George W Bush, because Obama has now kept us safe longer than W did, and with Max Cleland’s party in the Congressional majority, too.
Tim Phillips pisses me off, too. If he had interrupted me like that on my (non-existent) TV show, I wouldn’t have been nearly as civil as Rachel was.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:39 pmActually, and I am a hard lefty, I thought the reason Rachel was getting upset was because she was not laying a glove on this worm. I think she needed a more airtight case and it just wasn’t there.
As much as it disgusts me to say it, this guy got the better of her
in this duel. He was squirmy.
She resorts to an emotional rant to finish. Very Un-Rachel.
And I think she did so because she didn’t nail him.
ugh.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:45 pm78 – thanks – i was wondering what an average concern troll would have to say about the whole thing.
October 16th, 2009 at 7:07 pmthats what you called pwned
October 16th, 2009 at 7:17 pmcall*
October 16th, 2009 at 7:18 pmwellstoner says:
Actually, and I am a hard lefty, I thought the reason Rachel was getting upset was because she was not laying a glove on this worm. I think she needed a more airtight case and it just wasn’t there.
I totally agree. Phillips is way too slippery and Rachel did not handle it well. She got emotional and interjected her personal feelings. Rachel needs to be a cold hardhearted interviewer-more like a shark.
October 16th, 2009 at 8:03 pmVery poor troll effort on this thread. I think they’re askeert of Dr Maddow. :-D
October 16th, 2009 at 8:41 pmRachel Maddow should give lessons in courage to President Barack Obama…
… and please hurry!!
October 16th, 2009 at 10:22 pmWell, wellstoner, she did get the last laugh, unfortunately. I was hoping she could level a smackdown on Mr. Phillips last night, but the guy has battery acid for blood. He’s not human.
She did pretty much squelch his denial that one of the loose cannons at the AFP road show spouting nonsense about Obama being Pol Pot and Hitler wasn’t at an AFP function.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:18 amWe have seen a man with no conscience.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:30 amThe rise of nasty, partisan rhetoric and dirty campaign tricks track directly to Bush the Elder. He didn’t invent them but he gave rise to two of the sleaziest operators in modern politics; Lee Atwater and Karl Rove.
Atwater was his campaign director in the 1988 presidential race with Michael Kukakis and famously apologized on his deathbed for his underhanded tactics in that election. The term “kinder and gentler” was used often after that campaign to characterize how the Bush Administration would NOW act after their scorched earth campaign against Dukakis.
Atwater came to the attention of Bush when Bush adjudicated a College Republican race in which Karl Rove was one of the candidates and Atwater his campaign manager. Atwater and Rove used underhanded campaign tricks to elect Rove to the position of Chairman of the College Republicans in 1973. Their tactics resulted in a deadlocked convention that Bush the Elder, as Republican National Committee Chairman, was called on to decide. He chose Rove over his rival even though it was Rove and Atwater that had gamed the election and caused the deadlock.
Bush did dump Rove from his ‘88 campaign for leaking to the press so he did have his limits but I think those limits had more to do with press leaks that could damage his own campaign. And, of course, Rove went on to fame and fortune as probably the biggest scumbag ever to NOT go to jail (yet) in U.S. political history.
October 17th, 2009 at 5:40 amRachel must have needed a shower after that interview.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:13 amHey guninslinger,
How do you like the apple on Mann Coulter or the man-jaw of Palin. You must be in heaven!
October 17th, 2009 at 10:13 amjust the bleepn facts says:
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ginslinger says:
Wow! That’s quite the adams apple there Mandow!
You sure you aren’t looking at a picture of mAnn Coulter? LOL! ;)
Rachel is probably ok with it, while skeletor coulter tries to project femininity but still looks like an emaciated adolescent male.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:49 amI would call this guy a pig, but that would be an insult to pigs.. He’s more of a disgusting leech….
October 18th, 2009 at 8:08 pmI know him PERSONALLY and you are all full of crap. Continue your mental masturbation about health care and the environment. Those of us with a brain will use it and use it craftily. Don’t see any of the Chicago thugs in the messiah’s campaign or administration reported on out here. Hmmmm seems like “Think Progress” is not a good name for this website but instead “Stick your head in the sand, bow down to the omnipotent one in the white house and screw everyone else” would be a better title. You’re not promoting progress- just capitulation to one group’s ideas. H
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October 23rd, 2009 at 5:47 pm