Did The Authors Of New Muslim Conspiracy Book Steal Documents From A Muslim Organization?
Did The Authors Of New Muslim Conspiracy Book Steal Documents From A Muslim Organization?
Wednesday, a small group of House Republicans — Reps. Sue Myrick (NC), John Shadegg (AZ), Paul Broun (GA) and Trent Franks (AZ) — hosted a press conference in the capitol building calling for an investigation of the Muslim-advocacy group Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), alleging that the organization was “connected to…terrorists” and is “planting spies in key national security-related congressional offices.”
The four members of Congress based their claims on assertions made in the new book “Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld that’s Conspiring to Islamize America,” co-authored by P. David Gaubatz and Paul Sperry. The authors of the book planted an intern inside of CAIR for six months. The authors claim that a memo the intern obtained from the group proves that the organization “planted spies” inside the nation’s national security infrastructure.
Now, CAIR has filed a criminal complaint against the authors of the book, alleging that the memo they are using to attack CAIR was stolen. Indeed, Sperry was interviewed by Radio America yesterday and admitted that the planted intern “collected whole boxes of evidence marked for shredding” and took documents that “he felt he needed to preserve as evidence [of illegal wrongdoing].” Listen here:
According to DC law, the authors could be guilty of conspiracy to commit theft with a “bias-related crime” specification, meaning that they could face up to 15 years in prison if the stolen document is deemed to have a value of $250 or more, or only 270 days if it is deemed to have less value. From the DC Code:
§ 22-3211. Theft [Formerly § 22-3811]
(a) For the purpose of this section, the term “wrongfully obtains or uses” means: (1) taking or exercising control over property; (2) making an unauthorized use, disposition, or transfer of an interest in or possession of property; or (3) obtaining property by trick, false pretense, false token, tampering, or deception. The term “wrongfully obtains or uses” includes conduct previously known as larceny, larceny by trick, larceny by trust, embezzlement, and false pretenses.
§ 22-3212. Penalties for theft [Formerly § 22-3812]
(a) Theft in the first degree. — Any person convicted of theft in the first degree shall be fined not more than $ 5,000 or imprisoned for not more than 10 years, or both, if the value of the property obtained or used is $ 250 or more.
(b) Theft in the second degree. — Any person convicted of theft in the second degree shall be fined not more than $ 1,000 or imprisoned for not more than 180 days, or both, if the value of the property obtained or used is less than $ 250.§ 22-3701. Definitions [Formerly § 22-4001]
For the purposes of this chapter, the term:
(1) “Bias-related crime” means a designated act that demonstrates an accused’s prejudice based on the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, sex, age, marital status, personal appearance, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, family responsibility, physical disability, matriculation, or political affiliation of a victim of the subject designated act.§ 22-3703. Bias-related crime [Formerly § 22-4003]
A person charged with and found guilty of a bias-related crime shall be fined not more than 11/2 times the maximum fine authorized for the designated act and imprisoned for not more than 1 1/2 times the maximum term authorized for the designated act.
Of course, there was no need to take documents to prove wrongdoing because CAIR was doing nothing illegal. The much-touted memos that the authors claim is evidence of a Muslim conspiracy to undermine the United States are remarkably benign. The passage the authors cite simply says that CAIR will “develop national initiatives such as a lobby day and [place] Muslim interns in Congressional offices.” As Glenn Greenwald notes, this is “consistent with what virtually every political advocacy group in the nation does; it’s normally called activism and democracy. But because, in this case, it’s a group of Muslims who are doing this, these House Republicans are depicting it as some sort of nefarious espionage plot against the U.S. that demands a criminal investigation.”
Topic Cloud
ArchivesBlog Roll
The real conspiracy that we need to keep constantly under surveillance is the dominionist evangelical plot to establish a theocracy in this nation.
They have already taken over the Air Force and its academy, as well as so many school boards and state legislatures across the South.
They wish to supplant our constitutional republic with a neo-Confederate evangelical superstate, with their own form of “sharia” based on their nonsensical “interpretations” of certain Biblical texts.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:15 pmIf the Christians can’t “Christianize” America, how in the hell are Muslims going to “Islamize” it??
Seriously – how, exactly, is that supposed to happen?
October 16th, 2009 at 1:15 pmThese people really dislike that other Abrahamic religion.
Not that they’re too fond of Jews, either…but the animosity the “Christian” right feels towards Islam is more than a little horrifying.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:20 pmThe holy rollers are the major threat to the American way of life, at this point in time.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:21 pmAlso, can someone explain the substantive differences between sharia law and the doctrine of biblical inerrancy?
October 16th, 2009 at 1:21 pmPaul Sperry? That name is setting off my “DANGER WILL ROBINSON! DANGER!” wingnut alarm for some reason.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:22 pmIt’s always a group of Repubs that come up with this sort of “terrorist” conspiracy theories, and the conspiracy always targets non-whites or Democrats. Imagine how much of their constituents’ time & money they spend digging for blame when nothing is there.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:25 pmWhy aren’t these 4 Reps. doing something constructive to earn their paychecks?
They’re our employees, too – whether they like it or not – and they ought to goddamned well be doing something other than stewing up paranoid daydreams and handjobbing the press.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:30 pmCan someone explain how placing muslim interns in Congressional offices is more nefarious than marines who have invaded Fallujah handing out Bible pamphlets to the city’s residents?
October 16th, 2009 at 1:30 pmI grow tired of the Muslim bashing. I remember 9/11, but refuse to lump all Muslims in one basket. Many Muslim Americans love their country, just as this Christian does.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:32 pmHey hey hey, laws about stealing and threatening violence and that kind of stuff only apply to darkies and furriners. Patriotism trumps the law for Americans, just ask the last President and pretty much anyone who worked for him.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:34 pmWhy are these Republiscums worried about conspiracies when we have the reality called AIPAC?
Oh wait. They’re spying on us for Israel.
Never mind.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:35 pmAlso, how come Christians are allowed to openly set up schools aimed at taking over the government as a religious pursuit. So that explains whey they would assume Muslims want to do it too, but where do they get off arguing it’s not allowed? They invented it.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:36 pmI’ve always wondered about these “people” was dislike/hate Muslims do they actually know any personally? Probably not. I myself lived in an Islamic country, Bahrain, for two years. And some of my best friends I had were Muslim. Also those of us who practiced other religions did not have to hide it, we were freely allowed to congregate to worship.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pmThou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thine neighbor.
These stolen materials aren’t worth $250. They are PRICELESS as they represent basic freedom of religion. This is a hate crime. Imagine what the Christian Coalition would be demanding if an author of Muslim faith did this.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pmI’m sure this kind of drivel will play strongly with the Republican base, which apparently consists of the most paranoid AND least intelligent Americans.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:38 pmHear hear.
Osama bin Laden no more represents Islam than Eric Rudolph represents Christianity, Baruch Goldstein represents Judaism, or Shoko Asahara represents Buddhism. Fanaticism and intolerance is found in all strains.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:41 pmThank the idiot LIV’s for Glenn Beck and Rupert Murdoch; The Corporate Coffer Protectors!
There, fixed it for you fool. Did you take your meds today?
October 16th, 2009 at 1:42 pmLemme get this straight. The authors of the book planted an intern at CAIR for nefarious purposes, so naturally they assume that any interns “planted” by CAIR would be for equally nefarious purposes.
Sounds like a classic case of projection to me.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:43 pmYou Nazis came out on the losing end of history. All you have now is fear and cowardice. Go in the corner and wet your pants every time you hear the world “Islam”. Cry yourself to sleep every night knowing you live in a multicultural society, with a multiracial President and that your “Aryan Supremacy” is complete bullshite
October 16th, 2009 at 1:44 pmHis Truth Keeps Marching On says
October 16th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
_____________________________________________________________
So, what’s the view like from under your bed?
October 16th, 2009 at 1:45 pmYou liberals will be singing a different tune when you’re forced to pray to mecca five times a day at the point of a bayonet. Thank god for Glenn Beck and Rupert Murdoch; The Freedom Keepers
Daryll, your prediction about Huckabee becoming President because of God’s will totally crushed your credibility as a prophet of any kind. Go back to Rio and hang out with prostitutes, you’ll feel at home because you are a prostitute for the Republican party.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:45 pmThe Religious Right,neither religious,nor right!
October 16th, 2009 at 1:45 pmWe’re pretty busy keeping christain theocracy from taking over America. It’s the real theat.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:46 pmI agree, missmolly @1:43pm
October 16th, 2009 at 1:49 pmI’s obvious, at least to us, who the conspirators are in this story.
Ignore the anti-cristian “Truth” troll, it’s just looking for a reaction. Flag and ignore, flag and ignore. Repeat as needed until the stain is removed.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:50 pmDidn’t you chastise me for using the term republics? Now you unleash the n word?
October 16th, 2009 at 1:50 pmOh boy, another Republican fairy tail full of hate and suspicion.
The only fairy tail that comes to mind is “The Boy Who Cried Wolf”.
The Republicans appear to have lost the “moral of the story”. The children’s fairy tails were wasted on them.
It is obvious that Republicans can’t distinguish between fact and fairy tail.
On these two counts these 4 congressmen aren’t fit to govern.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:50 pmSince the Christians, Muslims and Jews all pray to the same God, I wonder if these reich-wingers realize that by continually pounding on Muslims they’re angering their own God?
Probably not — that would require a little bit of higher-level thinking that’s not possible by their little pea brains…
October 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pmHow many of those Congresscritters are C-Streeters? or associated with C-Streeters? Talk about stealth and infiltration; get right in there and brainwash some twit Congresscritter, forget that low level intern crap.
Low level intern is long term development and that isn’t the American way. We want results from infiltration and corruption right now, damn it.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pmClick the troll’s link. It’s a photo of George Lincoln Rockwell, founded of the American Nazi Party. So, yes. He is a Nazi.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
There is no such thing as “stealing” from a muswim, it’s called gathering evidence. Getting a warrant to search those brown folks is the mere formality of the century. Why do wibs think in a pwe-9/11 and post-constitution mindsex?
October 16th, 2009 at 1:53 pmYou started with the names Sperry and Broun. That about says it all.
And if we let them brown-skinned muslims be congressional interns, next thing, as soon as you know it, they’re gonna want to vote. ;-)
Oh, and 34, last word in your post – typo or Freudian ? ;-)
October 16th, 2009 at 1:56 pmWhat’s next? Are they going to come out a require Muslims to wear a crescent armband? Jews a Star of David? Dems, a braying a$$. I mean, gawd fearing folk need to know who to be terrified of, don’t they?
I have a better idea. It would be cheaper and easier (since there are fewer of them) to just require Republicans to dye their hair or head international orange. Since they are the ones who wet themselves over everything, let them stand tall and proud and identify themselves to the whole country.
And normal people would know who to avoid.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:56 pmTo the person who voted down 34. What the GOP really means:
What the GOP is inclined to “channel” the true spirit of the GOP. So look at it as not what he believes, but a brash statement reflecting the GOP.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:59 pmThe authors of this book aren’t exactly objective — not only do they have a major hate on for all Muslims, but they do their best to hang the “Muslim” label on President Obama as well. Gaubatz, one of the co-authors, is responsible for giving us gems like “Hussain (sic) has forgotten America does not belong to him or his Muslim family,” and “a vote for Hussein Obama is a vote for Sharia Law.”
This makes about as much sense as suggesting that General Eisenhower should never have been placed in such a high position of command during WWII, because he was a German Nazi sympathizer — as evidenced by his German last name.
Nobody should take these nutcases seriously. Especially since all they have “uncovered” is a fairly standard public relations and lobbying strategy. The only reason this handful of Congress members have jumped on this like a starving dog on a bone is that they’ve run out of straws to clutch.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:59 pmThe little holy roller troll just keeps marching on with the name calling.
Spoken like a true “Christian”…
These holy roller wax all pious and godly, until they realize that it just isn’t working.
Then they turn mean, first with name-calling, and then with some violent physical action. When confronted with the contradiction, they indulge in “victim” histrionics and befoul their undies.
It’s in their playbook.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:00 pmrequire Republicans to dye their hair or head international orange
Make sure its “terrorist-alert orange”. Those other hues just aren’t as distinctive.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:01 pmWe should be buying stock in tin and tin foil companies because every time Republicans make silly statements, the faithful have to put on their hats.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:01 pmHam Burglar, anybody?
October 16th, 2009 at 2:02 pmO L B Y L O O N
::Tickets on Sale::
Now on Broadway
October 16th, 2009 at 2:05 pmIt is amazing how a party that supposedly stands for America has only two things in their arsenal and both just shine as examples of what the country stands for.
1) NO!
2) Be very afraid.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:06 pmHoodathunk,
What surprises me is the sick mentality that keeps twisting its way through the Republican Party. Theses guys think they have been anointed by their god to guide them. Their god appears to thrive on hate, suspicion and greed.
Their god is not the God I know!
October 16th, 2009 at 2:07 pmBy the way, f uck the constitution. Any humane translation of the constitution is unconstitutional. That document was meant to be a vice grip on the individual.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:09 pmflight, no one expects the Republican Inquisition.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:09 pmThe republican christian extremists approach religion with a football mentality.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:12 pmUs and them.
This has been their attitude long before 9/11. I’ve been married to muslim for most of my life, and experience religious and cultural bigotry on a daily basis. CAIR’s mission isto promote tolerence and understanding of their faith, so that muslims will not have to be subject to the obstructive effects of prejudice’s ignorance.
Does News Faux’s mother like it rough, anybody?
October 16th, 2009 at 2:12 pmoh god,
news puppy’s just going to spam up the thread with his “squirrels of wisdom”, isn’t he?
October 16th, 2009 at 2:13 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
wow, poor little frightened right wingers
here’s a hint, you little sissy repubs: LEARN a little about your world and you don’t have to be so damned scared of it all the time
October 16th, 2009 at 2:14 pmdon’t worry, folks!!
the Prayer Warriors will save us,
just like they saved Mittens and SarahP!!!!
October 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pmMy old man with a beard in the sky God is better than your old man with a beard in the sky God. Don’t worry about health care for the people, or jobs, or safe food….must kill the folks who follow the other old man with a beard in the sky.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pmDumb Question:
did the repubs plant their darling ultra-repubs as interns in congress ?
If so, why was the method OK for them but a Nazi Socialist Totalitarian Communist Muslim Hal-Muslim Kenyan Hawaiian Indonesian Conspiracy for the Muslims ?
While I agree with 51. Okie Dokey, I have to note that in football, both teams have to advance the ball the same way. For Repub Football, one side gets shoulder pads and runs the ball while the repubs drive a tank.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:16 pmI saw that so called press conference yesterday.
PHEWWWW! Just watching and listening, I could smell the stink!
The whole thing was rotten with drama and fear-mongering to the core.
Shame…Shame…Shame on this Gang-of-4-Idiots.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:17 pmshorter News Fux:
“waaaa, I’m so scared!!”
October 16th, 2009 at 2:17 pmYou’ll never get it, News Fox. You need to CITE your sources. You need to tell us where you found them, provide links if you have to.
Everything you post is not your words and never WILL be your words.
Stop being so damned lazy.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:18 pmrighties,
if the USA can’t be “Christian enough” to satisfy you,
how could it ever be “Muslim enough” to satisfy a Mullah?
can you not honestly ask yourselves that question?
or do you just get such a rush of titillation from your flights of fancy that you really don’t care whether there’s a ligitimate justification for them at all?
October 16th, 2009 at 2:18 pmBy this release which is very likely to incite anti-muslim violence, could the repubs be arrested for a hate crime ?
October 16th, 2009 at 2:18 pmwhy are you such a sniveling coward, news fux?
October 16th, 2009 at 2:18 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
news puppy
just don’t.
or you’re going to get spammed back with USA-made race hate from stormfront and the rest of the white power mafia we have WAY TOO MUCH OF.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:19 pmPerhaps we need a “Sanity Commission” like the French had in one of the Pink Panther movies starring Peter Sellers and Herbert Lom. These Republicans sound a little paranoid; a little off their nut. “Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep…” – Buffalo Springfield song, 1967 (?)
Americans as a whole need to forget about continuing our vile stupid hostile military occupation of Afghanistan. How would we feel if the tables were turned, and the Afghans occupied America and were bombing wedding parties in rural Nevada. Remember our anti-imperialist past, 1776 -1897. We have been imperialist since then 1898 – 2009 and counting….
October 16th, 2009 at 2:19 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
right wingers are just simply cowards
it is that simple
they live in fear of everything and use bluster and macho as defense mechanisms to cover for their overwhelming insecurity
they are Typical Republican Cowards (TRC)
October 16th, 2009 at 2:21 pmwow, news fux is very very frightened
I guess his “god” is not so all-powerful after all
October 16th, 2009 at 2:22 pmshorter news fux:
“I’m a scared little coward, I want the BIG FED GOVT to protect me!”
October 16th, 2009 at 2:23 pmThat’s not the link you found your information from, News Fox. Try again.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:24 pmso why are right wingers such sniveling little pansy sissies?
is the the steady diet of fear fed to them by their favorite media sources?
is it simply a lack of courage?
were they weened from the teet too early?
October 16th, 2009 at 2:25 pmginslinger says:
Hey, gonna ever answer a direct question?
October 16th, 2009 at 2:26 pm77 – too bad they’re not gay, huh? – then we could just have some nice white american boys who love jesus beat them to death in an alley.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:26 pmWould this be anything like the “C Street” mafia that is working at taking control of the world in the name of the “New Conservative Hate Filled Jesus”? Nah, I didn’t think so. CAIR has no elected officials so they don’t hold power. C Street on the other hand, has members in Congress that are set on creating a feudal system in America.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:26 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
no, belaccifer, ginstinker, like his bedwetting right wing cohorts, are simply too frightened of everything to answer questions that require honesty
October 16th, 2009 at 2:27 pmAnd you liberals did NOTHING about it!
Ask Richard Clarke about that…
October 16th, 2009 at 2:28 pmNews Fox says:
PS, stfu.
Unlikely.
News Fox, stop being lazy.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:29 pmI think Twajie, and the Parodyll name jacker have been Islamized!
Or maybe even received an Islamofacial.
Looks like someone needs a towel and a hug! :-)
October 16th, 2009 at 2:29 pmnews fux is in severe paranoia mode, he can’t be separated from his fear and ignorance
his overwhelming cowardice prevents him from participating in life, so his only recourse is to hate those of us that aren’t paralyzed by fear
October 16th, 2009 at 2:30 pmWow, the trollies are just going froth-at-the-mouth, wet-&-shyt-themselves apoplectic. Strike up that Holy Crusade there and make sure you draft every gawd fearing, right wing wingnut for the first wave over there.
Because if you don’t drag them out from under their beds, it will never get done.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:31 pmThe neocons that control fuxnooz deliberately promote intolerence of the muslim faith in order to gain support for defense spending.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:32 pmAs we can see by their parrots, some of which are here today,
it has proved to be a successful strategy.
This comment has been voted down. Click to read.
GOP: refuge of the lazy and the ignorant.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:32 pmmaybe the trolls’ cowardice can be explained by all the times their little sisters beat them up in front of their friends
October 16th, 2009 at 2:32 pmand fearful, always fearful
October 16th, 2009 at 2:34 pmTwajie, you’ve really got to start listing your source.
(Psst, there’s still a little bit left on your chin.)
October 16th, 2009 at 2:35 pmNews Fox says:
I wonder why you’re too scared to answer direct questions?
October 16th, 2009 at 2:35 pmbelaccifer lacca says:
ginslinger says:
Hey, gonna ever answer a direct question?
They can not as that would mean they have to think for them selfs and be able to understand concepts and reality. which both means they would also have to educate them selfs as well.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:35 pmLets see if we can get Congress to pass a law that says any public statement espousing violence against Muslims, supporting deeper involvement in the various wars of fear or claiming the need for a Crusade is the equivalent of enlisting and all new inductees will be given the chance to put their money where there whining is.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:36 pmginslinger says:
Do you value Mathematics? Yes or No.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:37 pmSo News Fuk, when are you signing up to go protect America from these evil Muslims? I would think you would be willing to leave right away, and go show us libs how real men stand up to those godless hoards who are trying to take our country away.
The Army or Marines could use a few of you tough guy right wingers to get things back on the right track. Let us know when you ship out.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:37 pmOh look, the little Islamofacial recipients are voting everyone down.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:39 pmHow cute.
The Army or Marines could use a few of you tough guy right wingers to get things back on the right track. Let us know when you ship out.
We might even start a TP ‘Send a cookie to your favorite troll in Afghanistan’ campaign.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:40 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
gin
how exactly will the muslims “take us over”?
i’m itching to hear a detailed and realistic account off how that’d happen.
but you won’t provide that, will you?
October 16th, 2009 at 2:42 pmNews Fuk, come on…When are signing up? Your country needs you to help stem the tide of the evil Muslims.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:43 pmp.s. – cherrypicking inflammatory rhetoric from radicals abroad does not count, unless you actually believe every lie you’re told – i don’t.
ever play poker? ever hear of “bluffing”? how about sports? ever heard of “smack talk”?
October 16th, 2009 at 2:44 pmHey assho|e, how about a little credit where credit’s due?
His Truth Keeps Marching On says:
Bin Laden determined to strike in US.
And you liberals did NOTHING about it!
And how about you give credit to the A1 number 1 do nothing President?
Bush!
Alright!
October 16th, 2009 at 2:44 pmtombaker, I think they just feel threatened that some other religious group is trying to steal their schtick.
I mean, the world is supposed to be terrified of their mythology, not someone else’s.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:45 pmagreed Hooda – it’s clearly a case of adolescent insecurity and jealousy. too bad so many people are ruled by their ignorances and insecurities when it comes to these very important matters.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:46 pmNews Fuk, I guess by voting me down, that tells us how willing you are to back your mouth up with action. To scared to go fight for all the BS you run huh?
October 16th, 2009 at 2:47 pmangels81 says:
News Fuk, come on…When are signing up? Your country needs you to help stem the tide of the evil Muslims.
AHHH that would be never as these yellow lived chicken hawk pond scum drinking Cowards are just to afraid.
Why dont any of you trolls join in on this topic would you.
why are you not in uniform and fighting for US you know were the real bullets are flying and bombs going off.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:48 pm115 – that’s nice, little puppy – now go outside and find a stick to chew on – goooood puppy!!! that’s the way lil buddy, right on out there you go….
October 16th, 2009 at 2:48 pmSo News Fuk…Have you ever served in the military? If so, who were you with and when? If not, why? Just a few simple questions to see were your coming from.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:52 pmChristian fundamentalists with their own Pravda aka Fox News are destroying this country faster than any Osama bin Laden could have ever dreamed.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:52 pmAnd while you trollies are flopping and frothing…
On who’s watch did 9?11 happen?
Who spent billions upon billions of dollars, committed a huge chunk of the US military to two different wars for over 7 years and still couldn’t contain, let alone end, the Ebil Islamic Terrorist Menace?
Be afraid, little ones, be very afraid.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:53 pmangels81,
October 16th, 2009 at 2:54 pmOh Twajie has served.
He is 2nd Lt of the Latin King’s Sammy Hagar Cabo Wabo Brigade.
I am very much in favor of all those right wing Christians who want to stop the spread of Islam be sent to Afghanistan. They can take their Bibles, guns and beliefs and fight for their country and religion. We need to call these armchair patriots for what they are-cowards.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:55 pmNews Fox says:
Where are you serving and whom?
October 16th, 2009 at 2:56 pmDoes Ian Pearl deserve treatment?
News Fox says:
I’m serving right now. :)
I’d ask for a Burrito Supreme to go but I know where your hands have been.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:56 pmHey News Fuk, serving at McDonalds doesn’t count.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pmthat’s a distinctly retarded reinterpretation of the events, new puppy,
so it suits you to a “t”.
and, btw, since Israeli Intelligence has been caught red-handed a number of times snooping our classified materials,
what do you suppose we should do about the Jews in our Government?
October 16th, 2009 at 2:57 pmNews Fox says:
I’m serving right now. :)
That might be true but its not serving We The People you more or less are serving (or servicing) your non-hero cowards handlers.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:58 pmPlanned under clinton, aided by sandy burgler.
Oh, so the President had no way of controlling what his predecessor had done, even 8 months into his own term?
Wouldn’t it follow that:
October 16th, 2009 at 2:59 pmA) Everything President Obama is dealing with today is still Bush’s fault?
B) Bush spent 6 of the first 8 months cutting brush and was an incompetent boob?
Wait–I thought G W Bush already accomplish that! Didn’t he encourage religious extremism, even fanaticism [See "Jesus Camp"], work on curtailing the same liberal freedoms that Muslim extremists also despise, and in general keep the world riled up and agitated so that more extremism and terrorism could be bred? He grew up in that milieu and protected the Saudi families of the 9/11 hijackers.
Hmmm
October 16th, 2009 at 2:59 pmNews Fox says:
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB147/index.htm
Thoughts?
Looks like Clarke and Clinton had a strategy and Bush had a vacation…
October 16th, 2009 at 3:00 pmTwajie says (without capitalization):
October 16th, 2009 at 3:00 pmPlanned under clinton, aided by sandy burgler, executed under an ignorant bush.
Obama has already kept us safe way longer and way better than Dick and Dubbie ever did.
No one can deny that.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:07 pmyou can vote it down, coward, but it’s true, and you just can’t stand it.
i’m glad that it bothers you,
and sorry that you’re so dumb.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:09 pmNews Fox again steals from the Internet without telling us who he stole the quote from.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:09 pmand why won’t you tell me what we should do about the Jew problem, what with Israel’s serial spying on our classified materials?
October 16th, 2009 at 3:10 pmAt this point in Bush’s administration, we had already been attacked by terrorists twice.
How is that keeping us safe?
October 16th, 2009 at 3:11 pmeven if we amortize the 9/11 casualties over 8 years, and don’t add the troops we’ve lost since illegally invading Iraq,
Obama’s record is still better than Dubbie’s, when it comes to preserving American lives.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:11 pmPurple State, when you’re forced into heavy lying to defend your ideology, plagiarism is no big deal, I guess.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:12 pmy, that and algebra and astronomy and metallurgy and stuff,
but you’re on the side that’s hysterical over Islam – not me.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:13 pmgunslurper,
October 16th, 2009 at 3:14 pmThen why are you so damn afraid of them???
ginslinger says:
You realize that they have only contributed “ZERO” to the civilized world.
Hey, that’s cute! You CAN read! Too bad you use that power for idiocy and not for good… see tom’s list.
Do you like chemistry? You know, like making Gin and stuff…
Guess who invented it!
October 16th, 2009 at 3:18 pmGinslurper, history wasn’t your strong suit was it?
October 16th, 2009 at 3:19 pmginslinger says:
Taking “us” over would require a level of intelligence and sophistication that I hardly think a bunch of backward savages stuck in the 7th century is capable of.
You realize that they have only contributed “ZERO” to the civilized world.
And there lies all your right wing dumb thinking is. Went you affectively look at the attack on 9-11 it was a very well plan and pulled off very very effectively.
And remember those so call dumb VC who we as well though were backwater idiots cleaned our clocks for a while until we started to respect them as the enemy they were.
but thanks for playing i can be a world leader.
Coward
October 16th, 2009 at 3:19 pmI’d probably be a little more specific when you say that Muslims haven’t given anything to the civilized world. Plenty of Islamic inventions have come from medieval times and have been adapted to our civilization.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:20 pmgunslurper,
Then why are you so damn afraid of them???
Because the last time the Xtianistas decided to end the Muslim Scourge, they got their a$$es handed to them and they even had the Pope backing them.
This time around, the game is going the same way and they have that Super Bowl mentality. Mohammed 2, Jeebus 0.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:21 pmginslinger says:
“You realize that they have only contributed “ZERO” to the civilized world.”
Your ignorance is astounding.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:22 pmThe very alphabet you use to type comments, and the numerals we use to count your down votes, all have their origins in the Middle East.
Psssst, gunslurper.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:22 pmIf we are the technologically advanced society, and “they” have only 7th century capabilities, then why haven’t “we” caught Osama Bin Laden???
Actually, I believe it was the Egyptians who contributed the concept of zero to civilization.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:23 pmThe most effective deterrent of war is peace.
W’s presidency was a deliberate conspiracy to enable a war
for oil and profit in the Middle East.
I read about it in “Fortunate Son” in early 2000.
Bought a copy on closeout, as it was being banned.
Now THAT was a conspiracy.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pmnoseeum says:
ginslinger says:
“You realize that they have only contributed “ZERO” to the civilized world.”
Your ignorance is astounding.
The very alphabet you use to type comments, and the numerals we use to count your down votes, all have their origins in the Middle East.
And pesky things like astronomy, architecture…
I can’t be quite sure whether we’ve got a particularly nasty infestation of trolls or whether one of our regulars figured out how to open two browser windows at the same time.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pm(Steve) Coll’s new book, Ghost Wars, looks at how the CIA’s involvement in Afghanistan helped fuel Islamic militancy and give rise to Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda.
Reportedly they even printed up the Koran in different dialects to hand out.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:26 pm.
Q U E S T I O N:
Where else have we seen religion used as the “EVIL” among us that needs to be contained/controlled/terminated?
Does it ever work out well for the countries that pursue such goals?
.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:28 pmThe concept of zero and Arabic numerals was brought to Western Europe in the 12th century by the Italian mathematician, Fibonacci and replaced roman numerals.
The concept of zero is very old and found in Babylonian, Mayan and Hindu cultures centuries before.
And we also made huge advances in medicine due to interaction with Islamic cultures.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:29 pmgurnmble-bee-itch. you will get crickets for bringing up science. Any red blooded wing nut doesn’t believe in science, that for those weak kneed leftys.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:31 pmThey’re coming to get you, gunslurper!
THEY’RE COMING TO GET YOU!!!
October 16th, 2009 at 3:32 pmWell we are fighting the trolls and well they are hanging in there.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:33 pmwe use facts they use stupidly
we use common since they use ignorants
we use true (with facts and links)they use ?????????
we use true (with facts and links)they use ?????????
bilabial fricatives.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:35 pmThe only thing to fear is the white wing wrong side party and there haters fear of becoming human caring and american.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:36 pmNews Fox,
Suggest you look over shoulder. Look who is following up the rear of your Party.
I don’t worry about the Koran as much I do Mein Kampf.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:38 pmNews Fuk. haven’t signed up yet? How come?
October 16th, 2009 at 3:39 pmNews Fox says:
we use common since they use ignorants
—-
Oh, the irony….
That’s you and your projections! Nothing but “irony”! LOL!
October 16th, 2009 at 3:39 pmginslinger says:
Taking “us” over would require a level of intelligence and sophistication that I hardly think a bunch of backward savages stuck in the 7th century is capable of.
Ironic coming from a “flat earther” backward savage! LOL! ;)
October 16th, 2009 at 3:41 pmAnd let’s not even talk about the lives lost due to Republicans’ ongoing vested interest in maintaining a loser of a “private, free market” healthcare delivery system.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:41 pmN Fox, stop being so afraid and scared from things you know absolutely nothing about. Educate yourself and actually go to the CAIR website to find out what they are about:
” Make du’aa (supplication) for our community and our nation’s safety and for God to help us work to overcome bigotry and ignorance.”
~~~~~~~~~~
Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-CA) issued a statement yesterday, which read in part:
“I am appalled by this request [for an investigation of Muslim ‘spies’ in Congress], and the insinuation that Muslim-Americans are somehow conspiring against this country through their work on Capitol Hill. As a strong advocate for diversity and religious freedom, I find these claims to be outrageous and offensive. I urge the rest of my colleagues to join me in denouncing this witch hunt, which is clearly intended to create fear and distrust in our Capitol Hill community.”
October 16th, 2009 at 3:41 pmSo News Fuk. what you say…Should we round up all Muslims in America and deport them and put them in camps?
October 16th, 2009 at 3:43 pmnews puppy’s going after AIPAC and the Jews next, because of all their spying in our classified agencies.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:46 pmNews Fuk, can’t answer the question? What do you think we should do with all these scary Muslims? Its a simple question.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:47 pmbecause he’s a puppy, he just barks and barks, whether it’s a wolf or a squirrel.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:48 pmcair-CONVICTED. Nuff said.
Thus speaketh the lerd. I shall smite the heathens and judge them and lay about me with my mighty sword. As I have spoken, those who live by the sword, shall die by the sword.
Oh wait…flipping pages…
October 16th, 2009 at 3:48 pm(i think he’s just “freestyling” now – some kind of wingnut free-association rap style. we might hear about jane fonda in another few posts or so…)
October 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pmOh wait, here it is. Those who lay down with the sheep, shall get fleas…
Crap….flipping pages….
October 16th, 2009 at 3:51 pmginslinger says:
Sure, by the CIA and Bush/Cheney and Rove! Haven’t you seen Loose Change 9-11 Second edition? I think it’s an AlGore/Michael Moore documentary. Get with the progressive movement there buddy.
So you are part of the we did the attacks on our self group?
October 16th, 2009 at 3:58 pmWhy have you not join the Army? why dose you play pals also never wore the uniform? So you are cowards and you like to put down poor Americans, while We The People keep you safe. And unfountainly seeing you are in our country means we have to listen to your BS as its part of the Constitution (you should try to read it some time. As well have to defend your BS as speech. I do not have to like it though.
News Fox,
I think it’s time to round up people who are advocating the military take over of the country, the governors threatening to secede from the Union, and the Legions of Right Wingers who daily threaten military action against the United States. From my perspective, these people pose more of a treat than the Muslim population.
I think an investigation of these groups is far more urgent, don’t you?
October 16th, 2009 at 3:58 pmChristofascist News Phu(cks calling others savages. Hilarious.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:00 pmIn their attachment to their fragile reality, conservatives fear any change in their world view.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:01 pmAcceptance of Islam, for them, would diminish their christian superiority.
News Fox,
October 16th, 2009 at 4:02 pmWhy didn’t I think of it. The big difference between the right Wingers and the Mulims is the Right Wingers have the “Right god” dialed in. Muslims=evil
Go it now News Fox!!!!!!!!!
How Fox “News” viewers see the world.
———————————————————-
From: The Progress Report (progress@americanprogressaction.org)
Sent: by Faiz Shakir, Amanda Terkel, Matt Corley, Benjamin Armbruster, and Zaid Jilani
FAUX NEWS:
http://pr.thinkprogress.org/
October 16th, 2009 at 4:04 pmStill flipping pages…Ok, you guys just wait until we get the bible written right. I know there will be something in there that says we can kill anyone who doesn’t agree with us.
This old bible is just a bunch of namby pamby crap that says we should be nice and care about other people.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:20 pmThe Republicans have angered God, which is why they have lost all their power. Once you have made God angry, things don’t go your way.
The theocratic Republicans probably believe this deep down. Every lie, every bit of propaganda, every insult just angers God just a little more, and they know it to be true. Republicans now are utterly in Satan’s control.
God now favors the Muslims because of what the fundamentalist Christians have done in God’s name. There goes your religious base.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:31 pmLevi, please tell me you aren’t serious.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:43 pm.
Texas man faces execution after jurors consult Bible to decide fate
A convicted murderer faces execution in Texas after jurors consulted the Bible while deliberating on his sentence.
By Tom Leonard in New York
Published: 5:56PM BST 15 Oct 2009
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6338320/Texas-man-faces-execution-after-jurors-consult-Bible-to-decide-fate.html
And the American Taliban are worried about being Islamized?
.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:54 pm.
Dear gunslinger,
When shooting from the hip,
It is best to not shoot the foot!
.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:58 pmI thought about putting in a /snark tag, but sometimes I wax poetic and I just can’t help myself.
Personally, I am a Neo-Druid. The idea that the Christian God could be real is absurd to me. From where I am sitting, “God” is going to punish the Republicans through karma and we are that karma.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:06 pmHooda, I think I have just what you’re looking for.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:29 pmThe fear of America becoming Islamic is so ridiculous that I am astounded by the number of people who seem to want to believe this myth. It won’t happen because of the American woman. We have fought too long and too hard to achieve the equality that we have (which isn’t as much as some people think). American men may roll over and become patsies for Islamic fundamentalism; but, the American woman will NOT–EVER.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:34 pmRepublicans will end up as the Whiteman’s male party.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:33 pmThey will gradually shrink more and more ’till there is nothing left.
They are angering women, Hispanic,retirees,gays,blacks and now Arab and Moslem Americans.
Moslem and Arab Americans majority voted Republicans in 2000, giving a nice needed lift to Bush’s presidency…not anymore.
With this Chrisianizing that is going on in the party,and the paranoia and fear that exist today inside GOP caused by fear of other minorities ,the party is gradually losing.
Republicans are winning only in the South,and that’s not enough..but soon they will lose the South,then they will fold their tents.
Tea or no tea,Limbaugh or no Limbaugh, such mentality cannot sustain the majority’s support.
tarazan’
I must protest very strongly. In your list you have forgotten;
people who believe in a just God
people who think
people who believe history counts
people who believe truth and principle count
people who rise above fear and uncertainty
I firmly believe these traits have no boundaries.
Humbly, flight
October 16th, 2009 at 7:21 pm@ 17. His Truth Keeps Marching On says: You liberals will be singing a different tune when you’re forced to pray to mecca five times a day at the point of a bayonet. Thank god for Glenn Beck and Rupert Murdoch; The Freedom Keepers! October 16th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
I’d like to call you out for the ignorant sl*t that you are, His Troop Keeps Goosestepping On, but I fear that it will not get your attention for a salutary learning moment.
Muslims do NOT pray to Mecca, you fracking idiot. They pray facing Mecca, if they know what the direction is to that city. It’s just a tradition, kind of like praying facing the altar when you’re in church. If they do not know the direction to Mecca, they just pray.
And they pray to the God of Abraham and Ishmael, one Allah by name.
October 16th, 2009 at 7:27 pmFuxNews is a LIAR and a moron. Plagiarizing is what he DOES. He KNOWS if he cited the rightwing nutbag sites he is plagiarizing from we would laugh him out of the room. FuxNews YOU are a liar and no one with a functional brain believes anything you say
October 16th, 2009 at 11:20 pmPlace Muslims in congressional offices. How bigoted do you have to be to see THIS as spying? I mean replace the word Muslim with environmentalist and it could have been written by the Sierra Club
October 16th, 2009 at 11:21 pmtombaker says:
——————————————————————————–
If the Christians can’t “Christianize” America, how in the hell are Muslims going to “Islamize” it??
Seriously – how, exactly, is that supposed to happen?
I’ll take my chances with the Muslims. We’ve seen how everything is effed up when the xtians are allowed to run loose.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:26 amI hope someday mankind will wake up and realize that there’s no invisible man that lives in the sky.
October 18th, 2009 at 2:51 amI’d take my chances on the good ol’ flying spaghetti monster that orbits Saturn before the Muslims or the Christians.
October 18th, 2009 at 2:57 amFAITH FREE! I’d rather love my fellow man out of the goodness of my own heart, not because I was threatened by my invisible friend.
Yes, perhaps someday human civilization will outgrow all the silly god myths. One can only hope.
October 19th, 2009 at 3:51 pmOne is called the “War On Terror,” which is used to promote terror amongst the people, tear down Constitutional rights, criminalize and incarcerate as many as possible (though this is more a function of the next “war” burun estetigi), impoverish as many as possible (”A hungry man is no philosopher” gögüs büyütme) and destroy all possible foundations for future recovery, like the industrial base. gögüs estetigi Another is the “War On Drugs.” Neither has a clear-cut enemy, and no way to declare victory, so they can both go on forever, taking every resource the country can provide. gögüs küçültme There are still others that have no names, but they’re happening anyway, like a war on doctors and the sick and injured (check the URL in my signature vajina estetigi) and many more. Everything happening overseas is illegal invasion, occupation, robbery, genocide and suppression. lazer epilasyon Our politicians get their marching orders from the so-called “elites” who own the Central Banking system of the Western World, of which the Fed, the Bank of England and the Bank of France are members. karin germe estetigi The orders come either directly from people like the Rockefellers or indirectly through the giant multinational corporations that are taking over the food supply and moving saç ekimi – have moved our industrial base out of the country. estetik Americans are being herded into the place they’re to occupy later – as very short-lived hewers of wood, diggers of ditches, guinea pigs for experiments, and perhaps as occasional pets. karin germe estetigi
October 23rd, 2009 at 5:41 am