Right-Wing Activists Go To War With Each Other Over Opposing Views Of Sarah Palin
Right-Wing Activists Go To War With Each Other Over Opposing Views Of Sarah Palin
This weekend, David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union, was confronted by conservative activist and filmmaker John Ziegler over his criticisms of Sarah Palin. Earlier this year, Keene had said Palin spent too much time “whining” about the national media’s criticisms of her, was too “resentful” of the McCain camp, and appeared to be “bitter.”
Keene’s opinions about Palin were simply too much for Ziegler, who is a stalwart Palin fanatic and has previously said that any conservative who criticizes her should be “ostracized and punished.” This weekend, Ziegler tried to live up to his word by unleashing his anger at Keene.
Ziegler attended the Western Conservative Political Action Conference in California this weekend, where he sat down for a scheduled interview with Keene. Ziegler began by telling Keene that his criticisms of Palin “sound like Keith Olbermann.” Keene stood by his views, arguing that Palin’s decision to quit as governor has shown she cannot “handle leadership and responsibility.”
The interview grew heated as Ziegler began lobbing personal attacks at Keene, facetiously suggesting he was “being paid” to issue critical statements of Palin. (Ziegler was referencing the fact that Keene’s organization was revealed to have asked FedEx for a $2-3 million check in return for helping the shipping company in a legislative fight.) “So your influence is either for sale or by lobbying,” Ziegler said. Upset over the direction the interview had taken, Keene got up and walked away, which led to a public showdown at the conference:
KEENE: You are a liar! … [grabbing the microphone] I said this is over! You got it? Over! … Get out of my face! … I’m not going to hit you, but I’d like to. … I’m not answering anything to you because you’re a jerk. … You’re a scumbag. … You’re an asshole. Got that on the air? Asshole.
Watch it:
The organizers of CPAC tried to kick Ziegler out, even calling the cops to escort him at one point. Grabbing a public microphone, Ziegler told the CPAC audience, “David Keene is a sell-out,” again pointing to Keene’s criticisms of Palin.
Ziegler ultimately left the conference on his own volition. Summarizing his experience at CPAC, Ziegler said, “If David Keene is a guy who is a leader in the conservative movement, that’s a movement I don’t want to be a part of.” Ziegler’s antics have attracted support throughout the conservative blogosphere.
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Don’t know about the rest, but I’m rooting for the pro-Palin crowd! Down with anti-Palin conservatives!
October 19th, 2009 at 1:20 pmFEEDING FRENZY!!!!!!
October 19th, 2009 at 1:21 pmSomebody’s got a crush…
Did Ziegler dare Keene to meet him behind the school gym at 3:00?
October 19th, 2009 at 1:22 pm.
What is left to consume once the snake has eaten it’s tail?
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October 19th, 2009 at 1:23 pmIs Keene a proud card carrying member of the American Conservative Union? What chapter are they, the local 4F (for military deferment)?
October 19th, 2009 at 1:24 pmI wonder what Ziegler thinks of George H.W. Bush, who thinks Palin is a twit but calls Olberman a sick puppy. Boy, I’d bet the conflicting emotions could get him spinning like a top.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:25 pmThe RePugniScum Wrestling Federation has a death cage fight…
Yahooo!
October 19th, 2009 at 1:26 pmBravo!!
October 19th, 2009 at 1:27 pmPOPCORN TIME!!!!!
I’ll have extra butter on mine.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:27 pmmeow.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:27 pmEveryone of them thinks she was winking at them. They all just know that someday they will get to have sex with her.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:28 pmGuess what Ziegler, we non-Palin lackeys don’t want any part of Keene’s or YOUR conservative ideology either.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pmJesus! What is the obsession over Sarah Pain! The woman is dumber than a bag of hammers! Can’t they see that? Is it because she is attractive? Big friggin deal. I find it mystifying.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pmSteel cage death match or dead baby juice monkey kidneys wrestling?
October 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pmThat was great. the old school cons are getting what they deserve, first Liberace Graham getting booed at a townhall meeting now this.
Ziegler needs to buy a chin, he should check with rush, he has a few extra…
October 19th, 2009 at 1:31 pmThis video is sweeeeeeeeet!!! Too bad they didn’t start punching each other.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:32 pmFUNDY FIGHT
Quick, pass the popcorn!
October 19th, 2009 at 1:35 pmThose idiots shouldn’t be fighting about Wasilla Barbie.
They are going to end up with a naked hairless doll.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:36 pmNeocons don’t get physical. They get others to do their fighting for them.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:37 pmWell, actually, they are all Scumbags and Aholes…
…it is what the conservative are made of now days.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:37 pmPD,
October 19th, 2009 at 1:39 pmwhat do you have against hammers? They’re remarkably useful tools, unlike some former vice-presidential candidates.
Hmm…. I wonder why they didn’t show this on MSM?
October 19th, 2009 at 1:40 pmBut they are certainly shilling for Palin when MSM is telling millions she is on a web page looking for a job….
Ziegler has let the heat of his d#ck melt his brain. Not that he had much to start with.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:40 pmIronic how these righties asked for government intervention (i.e., the po-po) to deny someone (i.e., Ziegler) his first amendment rights.
What about the Constitution?!?
Please pass the popcorn.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:41 pmTach@21, LOL! You are right. I apoligize to all the useful hammers out there. Although you have to admit Palin is a tool.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:41 pmThe conservative circular firing squad always brings quality lulz.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:41 pmThe right is devouring its own. That is poetic justice for their attacks on Dems.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:42 pmI love when rethuglicons turn against one another and eat their own. It is truly astonishing that there are still some people out there who support and defend the bimbo from Wasilla.
I suppose her lack of intelligence, inability to grasp reality and her ignorance of the truth may be appealing to the like minded, low IQed sub human species of neanderthals who have hijacked the rethuglicon party.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:45 pmZiegler epitomizes the reich-wing hick trolls that so ignorantly and proudly display their stupidity on TP.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:45 pmAnything we can do to fuel this spat?
October 19th, 2009 at 1:46 pmZiegler is a partisan hack of the worst kind: those who complain that everyone else is excessively partisan and biased while spewing the most slanted drivel imaginable. I’m no great fan of David Keene, but his American Freedom Agenda is spot on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Freedom_Agenda
October 19th, 2009 at 1:47 pmHave the present day right wingers morphed into the subterranean Morlocks from the movie “The Time Machine”?
October 19th, 2009 at 1:47 pmpags2@27, Remember for months how MSM told us the Democrats were eating their own? Remember during the Primarys when MSM told us that the Clintons would destroy the Democratic Party? Now we have Conservatives practically coming to blows but they find it un-news worthy? WHF? You would think it is a conspiracy against Dems. Or am I just paranoid?
October 19th, 2009 at 1:48 pmIt’s a bit early for a nice Chardonnay but schadenfreude makes for a delightful lunch.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:49 pmMichele Bachmann is beside herself.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:49 pm“When will the boys start fighting over me?”
Kind of off topic but I wonder if the Christians from the religious right are concerned about the group of right wingers who are going to rewrite the bible online? What does the bible say about this?
Revelation 22 18-19: I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:50 pmLividLib says:
Michele Bachmann is beside herself.
“When will the boys start fighting over me?”
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Great 2006 article from the CityPages about Michele Bachmann.
http://www.citypages.com/2006-10-04/news/the-chosen-one/1
October 19th, 2009 at 1:53 pmToo funny Ziegler was scheduled to speak at the conference and got fired on the spot. It seems he would have been better able to push his Palin agenda behind a microphone if he could have just controlled himself.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:54 pmZiegler lives in some perverse fantasy world where any criticism of oSarah bin Palin is unwarranted and partisan in nature yet any criticism of Obama is fair and not excessive enough. Do you inbred hick trolls seriously believe this idiot?
October 19th, 2009 at 1:54 pmLividLib. LOL! I can see Bachman right now, “But Billo said I was attractive too. That’s why the Democrats FEAR me!”
October 19th, 2009 at 1:56 pm.
Part III is about how Ziegler got his @ss handed to him…
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October 19th, 2009 at 1:57 pmshoeless says:
Everyone of them thinks she was winking at them. They all just know that someday they will get to have sex with her.
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Shuuuuuuuuder… you just sent a icy chill down my spine… the room got dark… the lights dimmed… I heard voices talking in tongues…
Seriously… I wonder how many of the trolls’ copies of “Going Rogue” already have the pages stuck hopelessly together…
October 19th, 2009 at 1:57 pmZiegler is an attention whore and as far as David Keene is concerned he’s a hack too…..as far as I am concerned they all deserve one another.
Palin’s 15 minutes were up when she couldn’t even answer Katie Couric’s fundamental questions about how she stayed informed. Palin’s source for domestic and world affairs is People Magazine.
As far as rewriting the Bible to fit their world view…..these clowns have been worshipping false gods for far too long.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:58 pmPart IV is Ziegler taping himself while wanking off to a OSarah bin Palin poster.
October 19th, 2009 at 1:59 pmSo, in reality, the GOP is truly just a collection of dirty old men? And it’s not all just an act to appeal to a younger demographic? Phew, and here I was getting worried they had an actual plan to all this nonsense. Nope, just bickering over who gets to have the most arm candy.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:00 pmNo one could possibly really believe that Palin will run for President, she couldn’t even get through one term as Governor in the state that is easiest to govern because of the huge oil revenues it receives. Palin will just suck up as much cash as she can and drop out at the last minute. Running for President is probably one of the hardest jobs there is, I see no evidence she is up to the job. The radical right thinks that the Democrats are afraid of her, what a laugh.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:01 pmThis tends to happen to Ziegler a lot. It’s not as much a problem within the conservative movement as much as it is a problem with Ziegler himself.
After all, he not only organized that whole “Media Malpractice” DVD (complete with butt-kissing interview with Sarah Palin)…he not only found himself arrested when he had his one-man protest outside of an awards ceremony for Katie Couric at USC…but he also organized that “protest” outside of the Ed Sullivan studios during the Letterman/Palin skirmish.
Let’s face it; if she wasn’t already married, Ziegler would be courting Ms. Palin daily.
That’s not to say he’s good at courting in the first place.
The narcissist does this for the ego boost.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:02 pmP.D. says:
Remember for months how MSM told us the Democrats were eating their own?
They may do it over the health care bill. If it fails to pass, there is going to be a lot of the blame game.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:02 pmUSN@45, Not just dirty old men, but creepy too. Remember when that on columnist wrote an article how Palin ‘Spoke’ too him? And how beautiful she was? That gave me the heebee-jeebees.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:03 pmI’ve found that really stupid people have great admiration for each other, while they despise everyone smarter than themselves.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:06 pmP.D. says:
October 19th, 2009 at 2:07 pm@49: I kind of take creepy for granted as far as the GOP is concerned.
@42, You better believe it! The Dems will pay dearly if that fails. And it’s their fault. Instead of sucking it up, the so-called ‘Blue Dogs’ might find themselves tossed into the street. They were closet Repugs anyway. Most of them are ‘Pro-Life’ and ‘Conservative’. They won’t be missed.
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shoeless and UNS. Touche!
October 19th, 2009 at 2:08 pmKnee him in the crotch!
October 19th, 2009 at 2:10 pmPoor Michelle. It was a backhanded compliment. He was really saying that Palin is better looking than her, and that’s why she’s not #1. Bachman is such a ditz, she didn’t even notice.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:11 pmIf someone defends Sarah Palin as a legitimate leader after all this time, one would believe Eric Cartman would make a great VP.
It’s the type of reasoning that is done with the genitals and What if I could bring my favorite TV and/or imaginary friend to life.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:12 pmSlappyBastinado says:
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PDS? No way…..thoughts of grandeur?…..have you seen Tod Palin???? The man is barely alive! He’s on a 6000 calorie a-day diet, he has to eat every 2 hrs. and is banned from the gym. He doesent even have the strength to resist. The work out Sarah Cuda gives him on a nightly basis and a couple during the day is legendary. You could only be so lucky!
Slappy, do me a favor and explain how this post relates in any way shape or form to the current thread? I’d love to see the connection between the way these two right-wing retards are cat-fighting like a couple schoolgirls and the health condition of Sarah Palin’s husband.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:13 pmThe sad fact is that Ziegler is the new typical Republican. Stupid, mean, and unhinged.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:13 pmshoeless@56, I couldn’t believe she thought it was a compliment! He basically told her, her looks were more important. He didn’t praise her record, he didn’t praise her intellect. He told her we fear her for her looks. I find that insulting.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:13 pmSarah Palin couldn’t make it through two months in the spotlight. Avoiding the media was becoming impossible. Her one speech from the convention (written by a former Bush speech writer)was used so often it became laughable. Her insistence on lying daily about the bridge to nowhere, her corruption charges, “palling around with terrorists” etc. all made her a joke to most and sadly a hero to others.
Palin would not make it through the nearly two years that the next Presidential campaign will take. She is vapid, incurious, dishonest, lazy and has shown that she does not possess the character needed to lead. As a progressive, I would love to see her run for President but I seriously doubt that even her supporters think she could go the distance, much less actually win. Too bad for the neocons though, they thought they had another raw piece of clay like the Chimp, ready and willing to be molded to suit their desires and stir up a few more wars. Ziegler shouldn’t give up on Sarah though. I’m sure in a few years she’ll need the extra money and will be willing to do ANYTHING people like Ziegler and Kristol want for a few bucks….you betcha!
October 19th, 2009 at 2:14 pmUSN@58, I was going to reply to the troll, but why bother? Another specious argument, another thread…
October 19th, 2009 at 2:15 pmSlappy is less troll and more low rent performance artist.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:16 pmI wouldn’t sell a Caribou Barbie Presidency run short. Republicans are notorious for using a Charlie McCarthy stooge up front who is run by their handlers. Cheney had his arm so far up GW’s back end I’m surprised it didn’t require surgery to remove it.
And it seems the Republicans have no shortage of volunteers for the job of sticking their hands up the back of Barbie’s dress.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:19 pm62 and 63: I can buy that. As further proof of what you folks are saying, apparently someone disagrees with what I have to say but can’t argue back, since I seem to be getting voted down without any rebuttal that I can see.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:22 pmthose righties are SO fussy…
October 19th, 2009 at 2:22 pmslappy flingin those airballs around again?
he’s busy these days. still huckin’ airballs, but busy…
October 19th, 2009 at 2:24 pmCONervative motto:
When confronted with truth, escape with name calling.
Did I hear the words jerk, arsehole,scum?
October 19th, 2009 at 2:24 pm@66, Yeah. We so fear the ‘Thumbs Down’! That’s their rebuttal. Why defend your point when you can CLICK your troubles away!
October 19th, 2009 at 2:25 pmPalin is an embarassment to us real conservatives.
More like Palin is an embarrassment real conservatives drool over.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:27 pmI am paid (and paid well) for my art.
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October 19th, 2009 at 2:28 pmAnd I am the critic that says your work is inferior and you lack the integrity to defend your lame ass. Sucks to be you…
$P is building herself another big house right next to her current one. This new one has a turret – does she think she needs a castle? Check out the photos – they’ve even rented the white house on the other side. She’s got yet another website collecting money. Is that where the $$$$ are coming from to enlarge her compound?
http://palingates.blogspot.com/2009/10/sarah-palin-and-chateau-of-mystery.html
On that same page, you can click on any of these links and it gives updates of the various scandals she’s involved in up in Alaska. You’d think she’d clear up some of her messes before she starts more. What a twit! Why won’t MSM look into some of these things and put her out of the running once and for all?
Troopergate
October 19th, 2009 at 2:29 pmPrisongate
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Pebble mine
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P.D. says:
October 19th, 2009 at 2:30 pm71. I figured that’s what it was. Shame, all I wanted to hear to was a rational argument for bringing up something irrelevant to the discussion at hand. [sigh] damn trolld never learn do they?
This new one has a turret
That’s so she can see China from her house as well and build her foreign relation credentials.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:30 pmOT:
Good afternoon, dbadass. Our fall is about three weeks late. Only 1% of the harvest is in and my old hunting buddies are beside themselves. On the other hand, the deer will have corn through the rut. It’s looking like there will still be green leaves into November!
October 19th, 2009 at 2:34 pm69 – hear! hear!
Keene’s not taken in by Sarah Surrender’s come-hither looks,
he’s a Huckabbe Man!!!!
October 19th, 2009 at 2:36 pmpete:
October 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pmWe are much ahead of you. Numerous northern species have already moved in. In fact I am leaving shortly for an afternoon bird. I’ll let you know if I turn up anything of interest.
best-
Oh, I thought she was going to put a big gun up there because of all the trouble in “our neighboring country of Afghanistan”.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:38 pmAnd Ziegler is EMPLOYED by whom?
Anyone know . .
October 19th, 2009 at 2:40 pmIt is interesting to see some real Christian-right GOP Thug versus Thug grudge match fighting going on but as Hahn Solo said to Luke Skywalker in the heat of battle – “Great kid. Don’t get cocky!”
True permanent GOP Thug grudge matches are just as fictitious as the analogy I’ve mentioned and just as fleeting.
Because as another old expression goes, “Republicans fall in line” They always do. That big “R” after their names is synonymous with the sounds of jack boots and fear.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:41 pmThis conservative meltdown was predictable. After over two decades of self-censorship, in order to present to voters the image of a united party, their practice of squelching all dissent has led to an ocean of intraparty dissatisfaction and internecine hatred. There was no chance a group of religious fundys were going to meld with the country-club set, for very long. But they lasted longer than I would have expected, give the hatreds these two groups actually have for each other.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:43 pmFrom the article posted by GreatGranny about the Palin’s new castle:
But let’s get back to the building project: On the second floor of this new building there will apparently be room for Todd Palin (our source called it “Todd’s man cave”) and also an apartment for Bristol. On the third floor, there will apparently be an office for Sarah.
Hmmmm…Bristol’s apartment is ajoining to “Todd’s man cave”.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:45 pmOh, man…you’re not going there, are you?? Haha…
October 19th, 2009 at 2:52 pmUncle Fester Lurks says:
Great 2006 article from the CityPages about Michele Bachmann.
http://www.citypages.com/2006-10-04/news/the-chosen-one/1
Evil.
October 19th, 2009 at 2:59 pmJust plain EVIL!
In Re: Palin’s ‘castle‘.
Methinks Sairy’s got a fair-high opinion o’ herself as queen of something or other, maybe The Minister for Overseas Development?
This is almost Pythoneque in it’s hilarity.
OT: Monty Python all week on IFC.
October 19th, 2009 at 3:04 pmKeep voting for Democrats.
October 19th, 2009 at 3:15 pmWell, I guess that’s that. Think Progress has finally abandoned the “progress” and “think” aspects, and moved right on into the late-night cable news show arena.
I’m as liberal as they come, and I see no joy in relishing in the opposition party imploding over their core values. And shame on you all for doing the very thing the Democrats were mocked for in 2004 & 2006.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this very same discussion (different labels, different video) is being laughed at in conservative blogs, as we snarl and bite at each other over the public option.
October 19th, 2009 at 3:45 pmsvandoren says:
Well, I guess that’s that. Think Progress has finally abandoned the “progress” and “think” aspects, and moved right on into the late-night cable news show arena.
Yawn. Concern troll loser.
svandoren says:
I’m as liberal as they come, and I see no joy in relishing in the opposition party imploding over their core values.
That’s ’cause you’re a “concern troll” liar…
svandoren says:
And shame on you all for doing the very thing the Democrats were mocked for in 2004 & 2006.
Yawn… Hypocrisy much dork?
svandoren says:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this very same discussion (different labels, different video) is being laughed at in conservative blogs, as we snarl and bite at each other over the public option.
Yawn… Because Liberals spend all of their time on conservative blogs? LOL! You s**k at concern trolling patsy! Just stick to yelling “olbermann” at everything like a good little nerd – “ok” pats? LOL! ;)
October 19th, 2009 at 4:01 pmIs svandoren what some of you refer to as a “concern troll?”
Who is snarling and biting over a public option? 60 to 75% of the public wants it and all I’ve seen is support for it around here. This particular little hiss and spit fight between a couple of conservative a-holes is funny and pathetic; funny, because these guys are both such insufferable jackasses, and pathetic because the conservative movement has decayed to the point of irrelevance and nonsense.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:03 pmWow. Just stunning. I was polite, tactful, and brought up our own party’s ability to implode from time to time, and I’m a “concern troll liar” and a “dork” and a “trolling patsy” and finally “a good little nerd.” Just amazing.
If you want to check my liberal-cred, go ahead, Google my full name. It’s easy enough for you to find.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:05 pmsvandoren says:
Wow. Just stunning. I was polite, tactful, and brought up our own party’s ability to implode from time to time, and I’m a “concern troll liar” and a “dork” and a “trolling patsy” and finally “a good little nerd.” Just amazing.
LOL! You were condescending, tactless, hateful and rude and you think it’s everyone else that’s the problem. Victim much?
svandoren says:
If you want to check my liberal-cred, go ahead, Google my full name. It’s easy enough for you to find.
Yawn… You’re no “liberal”. You’re probably one of those “La Rouche” freaks walking around with an Obama is hitler signs. Just STFU dork boy.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:15 pmYou’re clearly a fraud. The above statement is nonsensical and makes zero sense.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:23 pmAre you really this stupid or just pretending?
October 19th, 2009 at 4:25 pmCondescending, I’ll give you–I sometimes sound like I’m on a soapbox when I really shouldn’t. But tactless, hateful, and rude? Really? Look up the words, my friend, you’ll find it is not me that is exhibiting such behavior.
As for those La Rouche freaks (and yes, they are freaks)–no, I am not among their number. I would’ve happily voted for Obama again, if I lived in Chicago where they encourage early/often voting.
So, since we both identify as liberal (albeit, apparently, different branches–I think government should chiefly concern itself with the well-being and civil rights of its citizenry, you apparently believe its sole purpose is to allow you to eat crazy pills and yell at strangers while wearing hats made out of fruits), how is it that we’re not sniping at each other, under the amused glances of conservatives? Who is this helping? Go ahead, sling more of your insults at me, I can take it.
Meanwhile, I’ll go back to passively reading TP, rather than commenting. Your malice-filled oasis can continue its steeping (look at that, I made a tea pun). No wonder neocons treat me with such disrespect when I attempt to have a meaningful debate with any of them–they assume I’m bats**t crazy like you.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:26 pmYou won’t be missed. Good riddance.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:28 pmDr. Hussein Matt says:
svandoren says:
I’m as liberal as they come, and I see no joy in relishing in the opposition party imploding over their core values.
You’re clearly a fraud. The above statement is nonsensical and makes zero sense.
I disagree. The statement makes perfect sense. No party should allowed to become so entrenched that we end up with a one party system. And I would agree with that sentiment. While I vote Dem, there are times when I had to vote Republican because I was voting against a corrupt Dem.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:29 pmYour statement in comparison to svandoren’s is even more nonsensical.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:32 pmnew kid on the block. Comes in and says you other kids are a buncha losers. I know, because I’m not. Yeah, that is an attitude that just screams progressive.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:36 pmsvandoren says:
Condescending, I’ll give you–I sometimes sound like I’m on a soapbox when I really shouldn’t. But tactless, hateful, and rude? Really? Look up the words, my friend, you’ll find it is not me that is exhibiting such behavior.
You don’t think “condescending” and putting us in the box with right wing fascists isn’t “tactless, hateful and rude”? LOL! Well that’s more of an indictment of your ill mannered upbringing than I can help with! LOL!
svandoren says:
As for those La Rouche freaks (and yes, they are freaks)–no, I am not among their number. I would’ve happily voted for Obama again, if I lived in Chicago where they encourage early/often voting.
You sound like one, not buying your crap.
svandoren says:
So, since we both identify as liberal (albeit, apparently, different branches–I think government should chiefly concern itself with the well-being and civil rights of its citizenry, you apparently believe its sole purpose is to allow you to eat crazy pills and yell at strangers while wearing hats made out of fruits), how is it that we’re not sniping at each other, under the amused glances of conservatives? Who is this helping? Go ahead, sling more of your insults at me, I can take it.
Project much – rude insane concern troll? You’re busy attacking “me” instead of lunatic republicans. That’s what ‘concern troll fools’ do. Hypocrisy much?
svandoren says:
Meanwhile, I’ll go back to passively reading TP, rather than commenting. Your malice-filled oasis can continue its steeping (look at that, I made a tea pun). No wonder neocons treat me with such disrespect when I attempt to have a meaningful debate with any of them–they assume I’m bats**t crazy like you.
LOL! My malice? Says the “bats**t crazy” lunatic! Project much patsy? ;)
October 19th, 2009 at 4:39 pmDr. Hussein Matt says:
pags2 says:
No party should allowed to become so entrenched that we end up with a one party system.
Your statement in comparison to svandoren’s is even more nonsensical.
Republicans love putting words in the mouths of others. They’re truly insane like this “concern troll” idiot!
October 19th, 2009 at 4:40 pmsvandoren says:
Meanwhile, I’ll go back to passively reading TP, rather than commenting. Your malice-filled oasis can continue its steeping (look at that, I made a tea pun). No wonder neocons treat me with such disrespect when I attempt to have a meaningful debate with any of them–they assume I’m bats**t crazy like you.
Like that doesn’t scream name jacking from a neocon! LOL! What a republican “tool” you are – iRacist-i LOL! ;)
October 19th, 2009 at 4:41 pmsven, progressive and condescending just don’t mix. That attitude of superiority has always been a troll trait.
But a real nice try.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:42 pmsvandoren: “how is it that we’re not sniping at each other, under the amused glances of conservatives? Who is this helping? Go ahead, sling more of your insults at me, I can take it.”
Why does this person care so much about what amuses conservatives? And, does he really believe that liberals sniping at one another on a liberal discussion board is a detriment to progressive legislation? Besides, I find it no coincidence that on a discussion about conservatives sniping at one another, this “concerned liberal” projects the same thing on to liberals.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:49 pmGave yourself away on that one.
October 19th, 2009 at 4:53 pmSKdeA: “Gave yourself away on that one.”
Exactly. You beat me to it. Nice going. These phonies aren’t really that smart. They can’t help themselves. The more they spout the more they give themselves up.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:22 pmZiegler ‘hearts’ Sarahcuda? Kind of a cheesy bumper sticker and little Billy Kristol has dibs on her, anyway, Ziegler.
Better watch out there, First Doodah, you got some competition out there in the lower 48.
Please, someone tell me that this is just a political nightmare and not reality. Oh. It’s a political nightmare AND reality. Sheeyit. That must mean 2010 is on, already, hm?
And when are Rupert and Roger going to start getting Sarahcuda out there picking up chits for the 2012 Flatulent Noise Candidate campaign? If 2010 is already on us, 2012 ain’t far behind and Rupert and Roger WILL have their candidate in the blocks and ready to go. Sarah Palin 2012 – Pullin’ the Plug on America.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:14 pmoh man… this is good..
gets popcorn
It’s like political porn… hot repub on repub action..- though it really would be better if they’d just beat the crap outta each other Jerry Springer style..
October 19th, 2009 at 7:33 pmWhat up?
The Sarah Palin circus is coming to my town!
Sarah Palin to appear at State Fair Park
By Meg Jones of the Journal Sentinel
Oct. 19, 2009 4:42 p.m. | Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin will visit Milwaukee next month for a speech at State Fair Park.
The former Republican vice presidential candidate will speak Nov. 6 at the Wisconsin Exposition Center in West Allis. Tickets cost $30 each and can be purchased online only at http://www.SarahPalinEvent.com. No tickets will be sold at the door.
The program is scheduled from 7:30 to 9 p.m.
Palin’s visit is sponsored by Wisconsin Right to Life and will feature Charlie Sykes of WTMJ-AM (620) as master of ceremonies. Palin was Sen. John McCain’s running mate in the 2008 presidential election.
October 19th, 2009 at 8:11 pm(Ziegler)said that any conservative who criticizes her should be “ostracized and punished.”
October 19th, 2009 at 8:14 pmWow, Ziegler takes us back to the hateful, bullying tactics of the Bush group: criticize & you are a traitor. What spineless, whining, babies Ziegler & his type are.
I want to see Levi’s Johnson.
October 19th, 2009 at 8:18 pmYou are wasting your time here SlappyBeggerino No pity for you
October 19th, 2009 at 8:29 pmSpeak English
You are stupid beyond human understanding. Nothing can shame you. If it could you would have killed yourself long ago out of shame for your breathtaking stupidity and your total lack of decency
October 19th, 2009 at 8:31 pmWho even cares what the issue is, Zeigler is a jerk and Sarah Palin deserves him and all the other whack jobs nut cases like him.
October 21st, 2009 at 4:59 pmThank you for your sharing.!
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October 26th, 2009 at 6:05 am