Husband joins Army so cancer-stricken wife can get health care.
Husband joins Army so cancer-stricken wife can get health care.
One of the worst tragedies of the recession has been people losing their health insurance because they lost their job. Nearly 14,000 Americans lose their insurance every day. Wisconsin father Bill Caudle was laid off from his job at a plastics company in March 2009, which resulted in his family losing their employer-subsidized health care coverage. This put the family in an especially precarious position, because Bill’s wife, Michelle, was an ovarian cancer patient. After months of unsuccessfully looking for work, Caudle did the only thing he could to get his wife chemotherapy — he joined the Army:
Bill needed a job. He needed health benefits. [...]
The Army would solve their health coverage problem. In years past he would have been too old, but in 2005 the age limit for enlistment was increased from 35 to 40, and a year later it was raised again to 42. The tradeoff would be his absence from home.
In the end, although he risked leaving Michelle to fight cancer on her own, Bill chose the Army. He signed on for a job as a signal support systems specialist, a soldier who works with communications equipment.
“Seventy percent of the reason is for the insurance,” said Bill’s mother, Marguerite Hemiller. “He told me, ‘I’ve always wanted to do something for my country and I have to help Michelle.’”
The United States is the only industrialized country in the world that does not guarentee comprehensive health coverage to all of its citizens. In the rest of the developed world, Bill would not have to leave his cancer-stricken wife behind and risk his own life in order to get her care.
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Recruiters love them some recession, and when you throw health care that middle class Americans can’t afford, but desperately need, well ol’ Staff Sergeant Rekreuter just has a great day.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:31 pmUniquely American.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:31 pmCan’t wait for the first black hearted troll to make fun of these people’s predicament.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:32 pmThis sounds very familiar. I joined the Army in 1998. My wife and I had just had our first child, depleted our savings paying for the delivery, and had no health insurance. I got a $12,000 enlistment bonus for joining the infantry, and my family got Tricare insurance.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:34 pmThere was a war in progress in 98?
October 19th, 2009 at 5:35 pmOK where are the troll-spinners? Multiply this story by thousands to see that we are facing a crisis. While Republicans keep saying there needs to be reform, and then cleverly fight everything. “No it costs too much!”
October 19th, 2009 at 5:35 pmThese kind of scenarios happen as the insurance companies execs get richer and richer.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:37 pm“He told me, ‘I’ve always wanted to do something for my country and I have to help Michelle.’”
– - I don’t think Americans have cornered the market on self-sacrifice so Caudle’s story is not unique in that sense. But he’s certainly a hero by anyone’s measure. His story might even bring tears to Glenn Beck.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:38 pmOnly in America!
October 19th, 2009 at 5:41 pmWhat a Hobson’s choice for this family — join the military in order to get health care for your sick wife.
Reminds me of George Bush praising and boasting about the American opportunity to a single mom who needed to work 3 jobs.
No job = no insurance = no health care. Even if he could afford it, his wife is uninsurable.
The discision is already written as this soldier will learn his wife will not get help with her pre condition. Insurance Companies only cover the chosen few while denying others. As testified in the House Hearing woman will have to get the stop any child barring to get coverage and others will be asked to pay but when they get sick they will be denied. Some Americans have paid into insurance for over 45 years without serious medical problems but now their dropped or denied. It’s like paying insurance but never getting the service when needed.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:43 pmFred says:
There was a war in progress in 98?
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No, I just meant joining the military for health benefits sounded familiar. And technically there is not a “war” in progress right now. OIF and OEF are both “Operations Other than War.”
October 19th, 2009 at 5:43 pmFred says
October 19th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Can’t wait for the first black hearted troll to make fun of these people’s predicament.
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I don’t know if any of the trolls would make fun of this couple (well, OK — they probably would), but I fully expect them to come here and claim that they’re “getting away with stealing” health care. And they won’t even realize how stupid they sound.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:44 pmWow…almost like being black mailed…join the military and we’ll give you health care.
If our “no public option” government were to play it right, they could just raise the enlist age to 65ish, get people in by the millions, use them as they can and then eventually kick them out and let them get Medicare.
Oh ya…Rushpub would object to the “government handout”.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:44 pmMichelle’s increased stress and anxiety over her husband’s military service will likely have a detrimental effect on her treatment outcome.
She could die alone here, or he could die alone in Iraq/Afghanistan.
That’s a hell of a thing…
October 19th, 2009 at 5:45 pmOnly in America. If you need decent health car you have to join the military or rob a bank.
Can we get a cheer?
October 19th, 2009 at 5:47 pm**Bronx cheer**
October 19th, 2009 at 5:48 pmI follow you on joining for the benifits. Thousands of kids did the same thing..Many for trying to get through college. They also were betrayed.
You call it what you want. I call it a war. Hard for me to let it go as anything less when a million people are dead.
Sorry to hear that you got caught in the trap. You were some of bush’s prime victims.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:51 pmSince the Bush years, corporations have been targeting the sick, the aging, and the “over-paid”, using redeployment/lay-offs as the trigger to get rid of certain groups of employees.
One of the primary benefits of exporting jobs to China, India, and Mexico is that it allows corporations to legally (but immorally) thin their herds and pass their “profits” onto shareholders.
The fix has been in for several years now. But in the last year or so, all of these corporations (in collusion with the health insurance industry, for one) are accelerating their activities, more people are affected, and even more people are taking notice.
I believe we are quickly approaching a time when we (as a population) finally say, that’s it–we’ve had enough.
And the consequences could be shocking and deadly.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:54 pmGotta wonder how long it will be until ‘debtor prisons’ offer the masses quality health care as an option. In exchange for their slave labor, of course.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:57 pmNeedless to say the Republicans think this is horrible. They want to get the government out of health care so this patriotic and loving husband could join the army, have to settle for crappy private sector insurance that wouldn’t cover his wife’s cancer because of the pre-existing condition exclusion and risk getting his fanny shot off in one of Chimpy’s wars. Thanks Michael Steele, now I understand completely!
October 19th, 2009 at 5:58 pmCharmed, its either that or we die.
October 19th, 2009 at 5:58 pmI guess we have to thank the entire nay Sayers.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:07 pmWhat a bunch of losers.
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But all his wife had to do was go to the Emergency Room. She would have all the health care she needed then! /snark
October 19th, 2009 at 6:09 pmbackup says:
October 19th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
No.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:11 pmIf the Army has traditionally offered benefits to encourage people to enlist, won’t universal healthcare dilute that as an incentive for enlistment?
Shouldn’t we take care of all Americans?
October 19th, 2009 at 6:11 pmAccording to Al Franken over half the bankruptcies in the US are for medical problems and of that group 85 % HAD health insurance !
October 19th, 2009 at 6:14 pmThe US spends more than twice as much annually on it’s military than the top 14 countries combined or worse and has for decades !
We are the only western nation without universal health care for it’s citizenry .
Hey, look on the bright side. This situation does have some hidden benefits. If Mr. Caudle gets killed while on active duty, then his wife will have free health care for life, unless she remarrys, and the kids will be covered until their 18. SWEET!
October 19th, 2009 at 6:16 pmBut, but, this is Healthcare ran by the Government, it couldn’t possibly be good at it…they have Death Panels, don’t ya know.
Shouldn’t he just pull himself up by those old Boot Straps?
Isn’t this welfare?
Etc. etc. from the Reichwinger idiots.
Snarkity snark snark
October 19th, 2009 at 6:16 pmbackup:
October 19th, 2009 at 6:16 pmI knew I could trust you. I disagree but I respect your tireless efforts
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There is a tradeoff between productivity and socialism. The tradeoffs may be appropriate, but the tradeoff should be recognized.
Does any other industrialized nation have a volunteer-less military?
No?!?
And they all have UNIVERSAL COVERAGE?
Strange…
October 19th, 2009 at 6:20 pmbackup says:
October 19th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
So you think the American worker will just shut off like a light switch, just because they’re getting decent health care, is that it?
Is that what you’d do?
October 19th, 2009 at 6:21 pmWe aren’t safe enough as a nation to take a fraction of the military budget that would provide ALL Americans healthcare ? Does the military budget have anything actaually to do with our protection ?
October 19th, 2009 at 6:23 pmAs Maria Cantwell’s health expert told me about health care reform and the incompehensibility of the single payer plan favored by American’s in America, ” we already have a system in place that works and we are only trying to tweak it along the edges “.
While he regretted saying this I told him it was a very accurate depiction of the state of our government .
backup says:
devil’s advocate: If the Army has traditionally offered benefits to encourage people to enlist, won’t universal healthcare dilute that as an incentive for enlistment?
Other than providing entertainment for you, why ask? Does this seem like a good reason to refrain from a universal health care program? To encourage desperate people to join the military?
October 19th, 2009 at 6:23 pmbackup says:
It’s the flip side to the argument of socialized anything.
If society meets the needs of the individual, some portion of the incentive to be productive is mitigated.
Bullfeathers.
Let’s eliminate public water departments because that mitigates the the incentive for people to be productive and dig their own water wells.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:24 pmfirst, I wish them both the best.
Second, it’s an American shame that a man has to put his life, and perhasps his ethics, on the line for healthcare for his family.
In America, you CAN get healthcare if you’re willing to go to a foreign country and kill people, but you CAN’T get healthcare for your wife’s “pre-existing” condition when you’re out of work.
We need to end this Employer-based healthcare and have a Universal Single Payer Healthcare System so that people won’t have to join the Army for healthcare.
This last paragraph is very telling of the sad state of American Healthcare.
“The United States is the only industrialized country in the world that does not guarentee comprehensive health coverage to all of its citizens. In the rest of the developed world, Bill would not have to leave his cancer-stricken wife behind and risk his own life in order to get her care.”
October 19th, 2009 at 6:26 pmThe flip side of socializing everything was shown in the 2000-2008 era.
You are advocating for that for the sake of argument?
October 19th, 2009 at 6:29 pmbelaccifer lacca says:
Does any other industrialized nation have a volunteer-less military?
Right off the top of my head, I’m reasonably sure that Switzerland and Israel have mandatory conscription (except for ultra-orthodox Jews in Israel). Some form of national service may be mandatory in some of the Scandinavian countries.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:29 pmbackup says:
It’s the flip side to the argument of socialized anything.
If society meets the needs of the individual, some portion of the incentive to be productive is mitigated.
Whatever portion of the society that works to ensure their medical benefits will no longer feel compelled to work for those benefits.
There is a tradeoff between productivity and socialism. The tradeoffs may be appropriate, but the tradeoff should be recognized.
This is nonsense. Portability of health coverage is standard in countries like Germany, for example. Do you see a lot of Germans hanging out at the gasthaus because they don’t have to work for medical care? Do you think there are no other motivations for people to work? How about you? Would you quit your job just because you had free medical coverage?
October 19th, 2009 at 6:32 pmOlby Sucks
off topic. flagged for spamming
October 19th, 2009 at 6:32 pmI see the olbytroll is plagiarizing yet again. Bad enough it’s a stupid stupid troll, but it can’t string together ten words of its own.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:33 pmThe corporate state is without compassion or ethics unless it helps the bottom line .Democracy is an impediment which still requires some lip service on a par with having to act religious if your a politician .
October 19th, 2009 at 6:34 pmThe revolving door spins so fast it’s hard to tell if there is even a door there at all . Corporate governance at it’s finest !
Hi Olby Sucks
October 19th, 2009 at 6:34 pmLong day eh? So I was wondering why do you do this? What do you hope to achieve?
So Olby Sucks why is it that you shy away from discussion? Can we talk about that?
October 19th, 2009 at 6:37 pmWhen I left the Army 4 years ago they tried to use the threat of “you won’t have any medical or dental insurance when you get out and a lot of jobs don’t offer it to employees”. Luckily I was not married nor did I have children so I was not that concerned. I can’t tell you how many people I knew while I was serving who stayed in simply because they were afraid they wouldn’t find a job with benefits to cover the rest of their family. It’s completely blackmail and it goes against the very heart of the idea of a completely volunteer military.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:38 pmSome form of national service may be mandatory in some of the Scandinavian countries.
True… but all also have many volunteers, despite the universal coverage.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:40 pmOlby Sucks
October 19th, 2009 at 6:41 pmWhy don’t you wanna talk? Come my friend you are safe here. I’ll make you hot chocolate…
It’s okay Olby Sucks if you don’t wish to stick to a topic we can jump all over the place like tweekers. Come on what do you say?
October 19th, 2009 at 6:42 pmLike I said, plagiarizing again because it’s too stupid to write sentences.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:43 pmOlby have you ever served? Somehow I think you are too much a coward to put on the uniform.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:45 pmtwo in the pink and I still own you…A bigger person would do something about that.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:46 pmOlby Sucks says:
What message is the messenger delivering?
Can you present a coherent argument?
No?!?
Shocker.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:48 pmHow’s that voting thing working out for you. You do realize how simple this could be don’t you?
October 19th, 2009 at 6:49 pmgummitch. progress thought anecdotally describes numerous people staying in because they don’t want to lose their medical benefits.
I’m not saying we should keep that situation as the status quo. I’m saying that medical benefits have acted as incentive. Universal coverage would dilute that as an incentive to either staying in the military or enlisting in the first place.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:49 pmHey, I just heard the Armys new slogan for enlistment.
“Join the Army! Get healthcare.”
Not as snazzy as see the world but it could work.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:51 pmProgress Thoughts:
I was drafted way back when.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:52 pmNow I get healthcare from the VA
Here’s a neat site that breaks down militaries by country:
http://www.globalfirepower.com/
October 19th, 2009 at 6:53 pmOlby, I hear that KO is auctioning of a pair of his undies on Ebay
October 19th, 2009 at 6:53 pmbackup, you make a very good point. Although to be honest with you, I can’t remember that many people telling me they joined for the medical benefits when I asked them. It was mostly for college money, no jobs in their area, or wanting to serve their country. I am sure the health benefits were definitely a factor though.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:54 pmNot when people realize how crappy “universal” coverage is. Cuba?
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October 19th, 2009 at 6:54 pmShall we talk about this Olby Sucks? Would you like to make a case or would you rather just spout shit? I think you might wanna try and make a case. It might make people think you are smething more than a lame ass attention seeker. Come on my man give it a try…
Olby Sucks says:
Okay… o/t sorry…
Because Democrats and Independents watch Fox that somehow proves that Fox has no bias?
So when there was no cable news and all voters watched network news exclusively there was no media bias?
That’s your argument?
Cool, thanks for ‘proving’ that there was no media bias before Fox News came along… dumbass…
October 19th, 2009 at 6:54 pmbackup
October 19th, 2009 at 6:55 pmUniversal coverage would dilute that as an incentive to either staying in the military or enlisting in the first place.
So that’s bad how ?
Maybe we would be less hated around the globe if we would send engineers and construction contractors instead of soldiers abroad thereby alleviating the need for the militarism which has become 21 century America .
What da ya think Newton ?
backup, why not just give it a rest and become a human being? Trollish is like wanting to live in a cesspool.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:55 pmbackup: “There is a tradeoff between productivity and socialism.”
According to Fortune Magazine, French workers are currently rated as more productive than American workers. That fact would tend to make one suspicious of this “tradeoff” you’re referring to.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:55 pmbackup says:
Here’s a neat site that breaks down militaries by country:
http://www.globalfirepower.com/
There is no sane reason why we spend as much on military as the rest of the planet combined. A ridiculous 56% of our federal income tax goes to military spending. This has got to stop!
October 19th, 2009 at 6:56 pmNinerFan says:
backup: “There is a tradeoff between productivity and socialism.”
The trade-off is that French workers are more productive, better working conditions and higher salaries. Where is the trade-off again? Oh right. Conservatives can’t act like d***s to the workers and get your jollies off…
October 19th, 2009 at 6:57 pm“Universal coverage would dilute that as an incentive to either staying in the military or enlisting in the first place.”
Hold up, here. We don’t really want people joining our all-volunteer military because they need health care. That shouldn’t be the reason people join. Universal health care just guarantees that this doesn’t happen.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:57 pmOlby Sucks says:
That’s your argument?
Spin much? LOL!
Project much? LOL!
October 19th, 2009 at 6:58 pmolby sucks sez:
Just how much does the Republic party pay you to be a fluffer?
October 19th, 2009 at 6:58 pmOlby Sucks says:
lucifer, can you read? No?
Jeffy Bovine the Patsy, can you read? No? Explains the projection…
October 19th, 2009 at 6:58 pmOlby Sucks says:
just the bleepn facts says:
sock alert
I already sounded it, but thanks for letting everyone know you have new sock Patsy..
October 19th, 2009 at 6:59 pmprogress thought. Now that you mention it, I joined the military and it wasn’t for medical benefits.
At 20 years old, medical benefits were the furthest thing from my mind.
If I was 40 with a family, and thinking about getting out, those benefits would definitely be higher on the list.
Maybe you’re right. Not much of a recruitment incentive, more of a retention incentive.
October 19th, 2009 at 6:59 pmOlby Sucks says:
Olby, I hear that KO is auctioning of a pair of his undies on Ebay
I hear dass has the high bid. Go dass!
Wish you hadn’t spent your last nickel on that meth don’t you? LOL!
October 19th, 2009 at 6:59 pmOlby Sucks says:
Uncle Ho says:
sock alert
Uncle ho knows you’re a sock with Eric Odom shoved up it! LOL! ;)
October 19th, 2009 at 7:00 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Olby Sucks:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:01 pmI know you hide what you do from family but I am wondering if you share it with your friends or if it is way too embarassing. Can we talk about that?
This should not be happening in this country, it just shouldn’t be!!!!!
October 19th, 2009 at 7:01 pmbackup says:
progress thought. Now that you mention it, I joined the military and it wasn’t for medical benefits.
Were you shot in the head? Would explain the stupid.
backup says:
At 20 years old, medical benefits were the furthest thing from my mind.
No p***y is, until you figure out you “are one”, right mantastic? LOL! ;)
backup says:
If I was 40 with a family, and thinking about getting out, those benefits would definitely be higher on the list.
If you were 40, you wouldn’t sound like a 12 year old. Yet you do?
backup says:
Maybe you’re right. Not much of a recruitment incentive, more of a retention incentive.
No jobs, and a GOP destroyed economy. That’s enough incentive for lots of folks that are easily exploited by the GOP war machine.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:02 pmeveryone wants health care as long as they don’t have to pay for it.
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October 19th, 2009 at 7:02 pmso you are a united and not a divider? see people are all the same once you get past your preconceptions…
A ridiculous 56% of our federal income tax goes to military spending.
It gets worse. We have the most powerful country in the world that has never been invaded, has never suffered an attack on its shores by foreign country and we spend half of our tax dollars protecting ourselves. And we have a portion of our population who wet the bed because they think that isn’t enough.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:02 pmconservative guy says:
everyone wants health care as long as they don’t have to pay for it.
Then there are the GOP cheap traitors like you that just don’t want to pay for anything.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:02 pmdbadass says:
Olby Sucks:
I know you hide what you do from family but I am wondering if you share it with your friends or if it is way too embarassing. Can we talk about that?
He has the love and devotion of Eric Odom and the cabal of ugly little beta male trolls. What “friend” does bovine need other this group of misfits, failures, lunatics and child molesters? ;)
October 19th, 2009 at 7:04 pmolby succks sez:
Sock alert?!
Are you saying that you are a sock for Craig Stevens?
Or any Republic party member?
just askin
October 19th, 2009 at 7:05 pmconservative guy says:
everyone wants health care as long as they don’t have to pay for it.
Just like all those people on Medicare who started paying into the system 44 years ago?
October 19th, 2009 at 7:06 pmOlby Sucks:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:06 pmHave we reached the point where I can say any shit no matter how nasty and you are so emasculated that you won’t do shit about it? Man you sort of make me wanna hurl. Who would be so freakin’ lame. I pity you you loser.
Olby Sucks says:
and a GOP destroyed economy.
dinjee harry, palooza pelosi and disgraced dood are “gopers?”
You want to “blame the victims” for GOP failures? LOL! Yep, you’re a “teabagger” failure apologist alright! Next?
October 19th, 2009 at 7:07 pmShe could break the law and get state healthcare.
Just another “option” for the masses.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:07 pmconservative guy says:
everyone wants health care as long as they don’t have to pay for it.
I’m willing to pay for it.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:07 pmNinerFan. That’s a great way to frame it.
Although it’s the right way to go for our society, it could have some impact on retention and productivity that could be taken into account.
For example, if we survey and found that X percent of military members would separate under universal coverage, the impact to our military staffing could be mitigated.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:07 pmOlby Sucks says:
Proof positive that 56% is well worth it. Thanks for debunking yourself!
Spend over half of our economy on something we don’t need to use. Thanks for debunking yourself!
October 19th, 2009 at 7:08 pmI agree with 103 and I will double down to help someone that can afford less than I.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:08 pmconservative guy says:
“everyone wants health care as long as they don’t have to pay for it.”
Everyone wants national security and we all pay for it through our taxes. Everyone wants health care and we all can pay for it the same way – through our taxes providing Medicare for all. That way, we’ll do it with less than a 3% overhead; much more efficient. Sure, we don’t give billions to the insurance industry, but they’ll get by with Fire, Home, Car and Life insurance.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:09 pmbackup says:
NinerFan. That’s a great way to frame it.
You mean with a “fact”?
backup says:
Although it’s the right way to go for our society, it could have some impact on retention and productivity that could be taken into account.
Yawn… More excuses from the wingnut lunatic fringe.
backup says:
For example, if we survey and found that X percent of military members would separate under universal coverage, the impact to our military staffing could be mitigated.
How about you just STFU morontastic??
October 19th, 2009 at 7:09 pmjust the bleepn facts says:
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October 19th, 2009 at 7:09 pmThere is no sane reason why we spend as much on military as the rest of the planet combined. A ridiculous 56% of our federal income tax goes to military spending. This has got to stop!
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Actually if your single motivation is trillions in profit then it isn’t so crazy .
The cold war was over so now we have an enemy that can never be found , without a country and being that al qaeda is a LOOSELY affiliated group , isn’t even aware he belongs to it .
Besides when you kill their mothers and fathers , brothers and sisters ,wives and children they tend to dislike you long into the future .Which is great if you make a millions like Bush’s dad did on the board of the Carlyle group , which W will soon inherit , supplying the war machine with dream toys .
I was just a little kid but I remember when the fear mongers said Medicare was going to destroy our country. I remember when they said civil rights would be the end of the US.
It is so sad that the US died in the 60’s.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:09 pmProof positive that 56% is well worth it. Thanks for debunking yourself!
I have a rock that prevents Tiger attacks, OS… how do I know?
Ever since I’ve had this rock I have not been attacked by a Tiger! Not even once!
I’ll sell you this rock for $1,000!
You’re ‘de-bunked’ so often it must start to seem like you’re going to summer camp on a Roller Coaster, huh?
October 19th, 2009 at 7:09 pmthe best you can muster is a vote down that will vanish shortly? Damn it why do I even bother with your sorry pussy ass. Let’s go. All you have to do is stand up and have a normal conversation. Why does that frighten you so?
October 19th, 2009 at 7:10 pmbelaccifer lacca says:
It’s like the religious lunatics that say you can’t prove God doesn’t exist – therefore God must exist! Almost like saying you can’t prove there’s no Santa Claus! LOL! The Republican teabaggers are natural born naive lunatic sockpuppets of the radical ideology of their fascist overlords…
October 19th, 2009 at 7:11 pmhttp://www.globalfirepower.com/total-population-by-country.asp
China and India have significantly more people serving than the U.S. and the rest of the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
The U.S. spends about the same amount as the rest of the world combined.
I agree with those that advocate a reduction in military spending.
Although the numbers of personnel in China is troubling, the U.S. spending is overkill (pun intended).
If conservatives are serious about spending cuts, they should start looking at the U.S. defense budget first.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:16 pmOlby Sucks:
October 19th, 2009 at 7:16 pmDo you ever read this shit back the next day and think about it? For real what you do is really not normal which is exactly why you hide it from those close to you. Trust me I can help you if you let me.
There is a really easy way to solve this problem Olby Sucks.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:19 pmHe got a job with the Army. Okay. This story makes it seem there is something wrong with joining the U.S. Army. We will probably need more troops when Obamaski ramps up the Afghan war.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:20 pmbelaccifer lacca.
Do you really have a Tiger attack preventing rock?
October 19th, 2009 at 7:20 pmOlby Sucks says:
just the bleepn facts says:
You have the same “qualifications” as obama, right? You never ran a popsicle stand, either?
Highly educated and competent you mean? LOL! That’s why all of you “home schooled” rubes think we “liberals” are elitists? We actually “have” qualifications that aren’t based on our momma saying we crawled out of the basement long enough to take out the trash? LOL! I can see how that would make you jealous, sock! LOL!
October 19th, 2009 at 7:22 pmThis story makes it seem there is something wrong with joining the U.S. Army.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:23 pm– Well it is better than playing fantasy CEO….
kwsventures says:
He got a job with the Army. Okay. This story makes it seem there is something wrong with joining the U.S. Army. We will probably need more troops when Obamaski ramps up the Afghan war.
You put his life at risk, because he needed to save his family. Why don’t you sign up – dork?
October 19th, 2009 at 7:23 pmThis story makes it seem there is something wrong with joining the U.S. Army
Bull.
This story makes it seem like there is something wrong with the U.S. healthcare system.
And there is.
And I do have a rock that has been with me for sometime… and in all that time I have not been attacked by a Tiger, you do the math.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:24 pmbackup says:
The U.S. spends about the same amount as the rest of the world combined.
I agree with those that advocate a reduction in military spending.
That doesn’t account for black ops.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:24 pmkwsventures, again, we don’t really want people joining the military because they need health care. That’s just not the way to build a top-notch all-volunteer military.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:27 pmbelaccifer lacca.
Well, you obviously have a Tiger attack preventing rock.
You say you’ll take $1000?
October 19th, 2009 at 7:28 pmYou say you’ll take $1000?
A bargain at twice the price… isn’t your families safety worth a mere $1,000?
Olby?
October 19th, 2009 at 7:29 pmkwsventures sez:
There are jobs that pay better, have bennies, and DON”T involve getting shot at or shooting other people.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:30 pmbleepn. Even if you discount black ops, it’s still too much.
With the deficits we have, the most rational place to start cutting is the defense budget.
We’re on the same page.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:30 pmbackup says:
bleepn. Even if you discount black ops, it’s still too much.
Duh! Yet you get your “fellow” Conservatives on here whining about “cuts” to defense spending published in the “moonie” times just this week… ZZzz..
backup says:
With the deficits we have, the most rational place to start cutting is the defense budget.
We’re on the same page.
Hey you bought a clue! Too bad you have such a small budget!
October 19th, 2009 at 7:35 pmAh, the smell of troll in the morning. Have a health care problem, join the military. It’s socialized healthcare but at least the government gets to use you in a military fashion.
If you want health care, agree to get your a$$ shot off. One way to avoid a draft.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:37 pmOlbyLOON
You are a liar. A punk, a moron and an ignorant troll. You are so stupid it is a laugh that you think you make sense. You come here only to annoy us and are too stupid to even pull that off. Dont you ever cry about how stupid and pathetic you are”?
October 19th, 2009 at 7:39 pmWhat’s wrong with this country?
http://theworldofhowey.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/supporting-a-public-option-the-wrong-way/
October 19th, 2009 at 7:40 pmDr Venture you will excuse us if no one cares what a moron and an ignorant punkass troll like YOU thinks. We could get better more original opinions than yours from Magpies. Just STFU until you grow a REAL brain
October 19th, 2009 at 7:43 pmAmerica is a wonderful country. We tell our citizens that if you want your dependents to have healthcare, come fight our war. So caring. So sensitive. If you are willing to fight the wars nobody will benefit from (other than the weapons manufacturers and the mercenary companies that used to be illegal) we will take care of your family.
October 19th, 2009 at 7:47 pmSpeakEnglish
STFU and shove it up your tarhole you ignorant racist pile of dogshit. Just go kill yourself
October 19th, 2009 at 9:42 pmSpeak English or Die Tryin says:
Touching story libs, I bet it would make a great movie.
LOL! Another Republican who hates to “read”, how predictable! Everything needs to be “boiled down” by “hollywood” for you inbred fat *ssed couch rats. You spend so much time living in your GOP/TV fantasies you don’t give a sh*t about your fellow americans. You are the teabagging taliban and you “hate” our country – traitor!
October 19th, 2009 at 9:48 pmProgress Thought says,
I asked Olby Sucks and Con Guy that question a couple of nights ago. Cowards ran away and didn’t answer my questions.
October 19th, 2009 at 10:00 pmJust flag speak english folks flag it and move on,
October 19th, 2009 at 10:02 pmIts stories like these that make me ashamed of my Country. Just unbelievable that this guy has to do this. It also says much about just how badly Bush screwed this Country with his policies.
October 19th, 2009 at 10:05 pm136
October 19th, 2009 at 10:16 pmYou know there are times I tire of b itch slapping posers, frauds, and wannabes.
Can you please spell correctly: It’s ‘guarantee’ not ‘guarentee’.
October 19th, 2009 at 11:03 pmOlby Sucks says:
lucifer, can you read?
Do you have a brain?
Olby Sucks says:
No?
Thought so…..
October 19th, 2009 at 11:17 pmOlbyLOSER
Moron alert. Punk, weasel, maggot, piece of filth.
October 20th, 2009 at 12:04 amHey lame ass. Will you please just shut up. You are like the little brother that will not go away. Actually you are like the conjunctivitis on the little brother that will not go away….
October 20th, 2009 at 12:13 amWow. 60 million people all watching! That must be some kind of world record! Have you called Guiness? This is big news!
October 20th, 2009 at 12:15 amSoapBox says, “Wow…almost like being black mailed…join the military and we’ll give you health care.”
It’s like watching somebody getting kicked when they’re hurt and down on the ground. The sad part is that he’ll probably be sent to Iraq or Afganistan to fight Bush’s phoney war on terror.
October 20th, 2009 at 1:38 amOlby Sucks says:
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Is FOX News “an arm of the Republican Party” as White House Communications Director Anita Dunn says?
Democratic and Independent voters beg to differ. A national survey shows that 46% of those who watch FOX News “just about every day” are Democrats or Independents as are 50% of those who watch it “several times each week” or more.
Oh, like I’m gonna take this seriously…not. It’s a “poll” commissioned by the League of American Voters, done by the unknown Global Marketing Research Center (and I can’t even figure out how the Hell *this* site fits in), and was sent out by Dick Morris – with absolutely NO original source. All it is is “a recent poll says”. You can’t find the ACTUAL poll ANYWHERE.
http://www.newsmax.com/morris/fox_news_party_lines/2009/10/19/273848.html
October 20th, 2009 at 2:14 amOlby Sucks says:
The other cable news pos only dream of Fox News (#1) viewer numbers! LOL!
With only 1% of Americans watching! LOL! Embarrassing for the GOP! LOL! ;)
October 20th, 2009 at 2:16 amOlby Sucks says:
1 out of 5 Americans watch Fox News (#1) every night! No wonder obama is scared $hitless of us!
America only has 10 million people? LOL! No wonder you morons think you’re a majority with 2 million Fox viewers! LOL! ;)
October 20th, 2009 at 2:17 amOlby Sucks says:
Intrepid says:
sock alert
Oh patsy, we “always” know when you have a “new sock” online. We just look for the most stupid 1 liner crap with poor grammar and ridiculous claims and there you are! LOL! ;)
October 20th, 2009 at 2:18 amPatsy needs to review her math. Fox News = 2million viewers. America = 300 million. 2 million != 1/5th of 300 million! LOL! Republicans should stick to racism, math just proves how stupid they are! LOL! ;)
October 20th, 2009 at 2:19 amPoor patsy heard 1/150th of Americans watch Fox and though it was 1/5th! LOL! What a sad little teabagger loser! LOL!
October 20th, 2009 at 2:20 am.
… Well that’s one way to get socialized care.
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October 20th, 2009 at 2:36 ambleepn facts,
That Sucker needs to hire someone to carry his decimal…
… Talk about the epitome of being “Lazy“, NO?
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October 20th, 2009 at 2:40 amOlbyLOSER
STFU you ignorant punkass troll. No one cares what moronic brainwashed pieces of filth like you thinks. Fox is garbage for brainwashed morons like YOU.
October 20th, 2009 at 2:52 amIs Olby Sucks typing out everything he yells out during his man-love sessions with Keith Olbermann here?
October 20th, 2009 at 8:06 amOlby Sucks says:
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NEW YORK — Nearly one out of every five Democrats thinks the world will be better off if America loses the war in Iraq.
Why do demonrats hate America?
Interesting. A poll from FOX from two years ago. And one of the stupidest polls I’ve ever seen, BTW. Seriously, “do you ever pray for President Bush”? WTF?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299374,00.html
October 20th, 2009 at 11:13 amMy heart goes out to this family. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Where there is a will there is a way. God bless you.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:48 pmIf we have universal health care, who will join the Army?
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:58 amThank you for your sharing.!
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October 26th, 2009 at 6:44 am