CNN Edits Out Dobbs Criticism From Taped Interview
CNN Edits Out Dobbs Criticism From Taped Interview
This week, CNN aired a new four-hour documentary called “Latino in America,” exploring how Latinos are reshaping American communities and culture. The broadcast sparked protests in cities around the country, including outside CNN’s headquarters in Atlanta, with minority groups calling on the network to fire anti-immigration crusader and serial misinformer Lou Dobbs.
The New York Times reports that CNN “has not commented on the protests or covered them on its news programs.” But not only has CNN ignored the Dobbs protests, the network edited out criticism of Dobbs from civil rights lawyer Isabel Garcia during a taped interview with controversial Arizona Sheriff Joe Arapaio that aired on Anderson Cooper 360 this week:
[Garcia] who was featured in “Latino in America” and organized an anti-Dobbs protest in Tucson on Wednesday, said that CNN edited her comments about the anchor out of an interview. [...]
She said she called Mr. Arpaio and Mr. Dobbs “the two most dangerous men to our communities,” and said that “because of them, our communities are being terrorized in a real way.” She also asserted that CNN was “promoting lies and hate about our community” by broadcasting Mr. Dobbs’s program. The comments were not included when the interview was shown Wednesday night. “They heavily deleted what I did get to say,” she said.
This isn’t the first time CNN has circled the wagons around Dobbs. Earlier this year, Dobbs was one of the most prominent mainstream media figures pushing the conspiracy theory that President Obama may not have been born in the U.S. Dobbs repeatedly called on Obama to “produce a birth certificate” and said it’s “unfortunate” that the birthers have been “dismissed.” Despite Dobbs’ hysteria and playing on “escalating white fear,” CNN president Jonathan Klein downplayed Dobbs’ antics, claiming the CNN anchor was merely reporting on the birther “phenomenon” and had simply asked why “some people doubt” Obama’s citizenship.
Moreover, while discussing race issues last year on the air, Dobbs became agitated, and it appeared that he was about to say “cotton picking” (often used as a racially charged slur) in reference to then Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. But he caught himself, only uttering the word “cotton.” In the official transcript of the show, CNN omitted “cotton” from Dobbs’ remarks.
While Dobbs has been quick to jump on right-wing conspiracy theories targeting Obama (including recently peddling a fake thesis purportedly written by Obama that trashes the Constitution, the Founding Fathers and free markets), his hateful anti-immigrant rhetoric has been ongoing for years. Now, Latino and pro-immigrant activists have launched two campaigns, Drop Dobbs and Basta Dobbs, which are aimed at pressuring CNN to “hold Mr. Dobbs to journalistic standards” or dump him altogether.
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The elephant in the room is a blind eye being turned as the corporations lure, arrange and pay immigrants to come to US for corporate big $$$$ money. Control this area, kick butt to those hiring undocumented and the problem will be controlled.
October 24th, 2009 at 2:59 pmCNN=Faux News Lite. Even Jon Stewart slammed CNN for their blantant practice of letting Repugs get the last word and cutting off Dems. And of course they never QUESTION Repug false statistics. Why do you think young people flock to MSNBC and Stewart and Colbert? It’s sad when people have to get legitimate news from Comedy Central.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:03 pmIt’s always interesting to hear Republican supporters attack minorities when their married to a minority and have mixed race children. Now Dobbs wife is Mexican/American and a child was a produce of that union. Wonder what he’s thinking at night while laying in bed with his wife, I bet he’s not thinking of her race. Many of the outspoken people who attack minorities are either married to a minority or having affairs with them. Senator Vitter doesn’t care what race a woman is he’s just interested in getting layed. Dobbs will be cut from CNN and he’s doing his best to get a job on the racist Fox News so as a true Republican he’ll sell out his wife and Family for a buck.
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CNN Edits Out Dobbs Criticism From Taped Interview
– - John Stossel, it’s your serve.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:12 pmAren’t these political pundits ever retired?
Why are we subjected to the opinions of people who are relics from another era?
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Nothing like a little selective editing to make oneself look better, right Corporate NotSoMuchNews Netwurk?
October 24th, 2009 at 3:22 pmWhat part of ILLEGAL hiring by profit hungry corporations don’t you understand, Mr. Duke? By the way which one are you, Mortimer or Randolph?
My bet would be on Mortimer.
Snerd.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:24 pmCNN will decide the news you need to know and you WILL like it!
I stopped watching CNN when they hired Beck and will not turn it on until they get rid of Dobbs.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:26 pmOT
anyone else having connection/login timeouts or interruptions today? Just had my third over the last three hours. No biggie, just wondering.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:27 pmDobbs will be cut from CNN and he’s doing his best to get a job on the racist Fox News so as a true Republican he’ll sell out his wife and Family for a buck.
After trashing John Stossel, I think that’s going to be hard for him to pull off. Even if CNN comes to their senses and discontunues further contact with Dobbs, he’ll still be able to find work on that old standby right wing hate talk radio.
The best thing we can do is to continue to expose him for what he is, and to turn him into a national joke. Luckily, he’s helping us with that.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:27 pmCNN and most of the media are all corporate parasites and are in bed together with other corporate business leaches.
They protect one another’ corporate greed and allow info released they want US to hear.
Example: this story/video did not make national news:
A News 8 investigation found that hundreds of aircraft mechanics have been brought into the United States to work at aircraft repair facilities.
and the guilty co’s are Chinese owned…. here in the USA!
Aircraft repair jobs sold to foreign workers
October 24th, 2009 at 3:34 pmRUCerious says:
What part of ILLEGAL hiring by profit hungry corporations don’t you understand, Mr. Duke?
That’s just something our friends like Mr. Duke fail to understand, RUC. People do not come here illegally just to hang around and collect free government services, no matter what some people think. They come here to work, primarily for large corporations that really do not care about American Law.
If you don’t want people to come here illegally, then remove the incentives that inspire them to do so. If just being here without authorization is a crime, then hiring someone who is here illegally should be an even bigger crime. When the world starts seeing the corporations who hire illegal immigrants punished, they will think twice about coming here illegally. But as long as corporations are going to be given a free pass, then people like Mr Duke will continue to misplace their anger.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:37 pm#10 RUCerious says:
Mortimer Snerd! HA!
Not too many would remember ol’ Snerd. That makes me a relic I guess.
But I’m not too much of a relic to know that Dobbs is an old fart that needs to take some Geritol® or maybe a Miltown®.
Too many hard-working immigrants, who have given a lot to this country are being denigrated by the likes of Dobbs. I agree with the general consensus: Start imposing large fines and penalties on the businesses and corporations that hire the illegals, and the number would decrease significantly.
I know too many immigrants who have worked in this country for years and are better citizens than say–Mr. Duke, or Mortimer Snerd as you call him.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:41 pmWhat part of ILLEGAL immigration don’t you people understand?
October 24th, 2009 at 3:45 pm—
Is it the part about the employers?
I have a friend, small business, who hires illegals. He knows there illegal. He tells them not to come back, on friday, until they get paperwork. They show back up on monday with forged green cards etc. He knows they are fake. But its not his responsibility, he says, to ascertain if its legal or not. He does it because they work cheaply.
He doesnt care that some legal american citizen wont get a job. Its the litterbug syndrome “If I litter, just one person, littering isnt a problem” Thing is there are millions thinking the same thing.
“If I hire a few illegals, so what, it wont change anything”
October 24th, 2009 at 3:46 pmThe legal employers creating the illegal problem.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:48 pm#12 5th Estate says:
anyone else having connection/login timeouts or interruptions today?
Bandwidth limits on your ISP? That is my guess. (Some of this was discussed on the McCain/internet thread.) ISP’s are limiting bandwidth in a lot of places. It also depends on the amount of net traffic in your area and how much switching the PSTN (Public Service Telephone Network) is doing at the time of the connection.
That is all for today.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:50 pmTed Turner on Bloomberg TV said earlier this month that he would like to run CNN again with “less talk and more news.” Have a feeling that Lou Dobbs would have to hit the road if Ted was in charge.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:52 pm5th @12,
October 24th, 2009 at 3:52 pmYes, me too.
People should be concerned because many airlines do not own, but lease, those aircraft, and the maintenance checks are contracted to such FBOs
October 24th, 2009 at 3:52 pmcorporate big business= CONservatives
CONservatives = those encouraging discrimination towards the immigrants they help lure in for corporate greed.
October 24th, 2009 at 3:57 pmWordpress has always seemed buggy to me and I did get logged out once today already
October 24th, 2009 at 4:00 pm5th @12,
October 24th, 2009 at 4:02 pmWaited awhile as I did not want to be # 1 as it is somewhat off topic…. and it took much longer than usual for other posts to post.
I have to admit that the new pathology sort of interests me but only slightly. Just voting down while hiding seems to point toward serious potential low self esteem issues…
October 24th, 2009 at 4:07 pmCorporate Noisome Noise (CNN), the second-most mistrusted corporate noise machine after Fascist Faux Noise, aka, Fox…
October 24th, 2009 at 4:09 pmMr. Dobbs would appear to this observer to be an ‘opinionist’; that is, he is paid by CNN to attract advertising viewers by uttering (ignorant) opinions. He may also be a ‘urinalist’; that is, he urinates standing up, perhaps with a Larry Craig Memorial Commode Stall Wide Stance. Urinalist is not to be confused with ‘journalist’; Mr. Dobbs, if he ever was a journalist, stopped his association with journals when he discovered the tube and all it’s glories. He can now blurt out flatulent ephemera and platitudes with some guarantee of many dollars for doing so; sure, he has to occasionally say something “sensational” or “controversial” in order to keep those eyeballs glued to the screen, but all he has to do is attack someone who can’t really hit back. Fracking weeny from hell…
October 24th, 2009 at 4:11 pmdbadass,
I have serious low self-esteem issues, and even I wouldn’t go around voting down comments while hiding. He must have other issues besides.
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Unfortunately many dislike truth and dissent even here at the comments section of TP
— Might you be kind enough to defend this thesis? I will prep a peer review rubric as well as a self reflective rubric. As I often do, I would warn you about the pitfalls of feeling able to define “truth”
October 24th, 2009 at 4:19 pmkscitydude says:
Whites will be a minority in America someday and that’s just way corporations want it. They know that Latinos will do any kind of job to provide for their family and not complain about their wages. White Americans have become fat and lazy.
http://www.kgoradio.com/, in SF California many times uses the topic of immigration as it is a very hot issue there. It is felt the state is going under due to the loss of jobs.
callers that call in:
* All groups of ethnicity call in complaining of a job they lost to an undocumented worker.
* undocumented workers, those that can speak English, call in stating a corporation arranged and paid expenses to come to USA for work.
October 24th, 2009 at 4:20 pmfreeman says:
Re instating the fairness doctrine would go along way toward keeping newscasters honest .Unfortunately many dislike truth and dissent even here at the comments section of TP .Facts and alternate views are regularly silenced in order to end actual inquiry when the conclusions are politically inconvenient .
I respectfully disagree. I don’t think the demise of the Fairness Doctrine was the problem so much as Media Consolidation has been. Too few corporations control too much of the media. What we need to re-instate and enforce are the rules that prohibit one person or corporation from owning too much of one media market. For example, Rupert Murdoch has been given exemptions so he could own both newspapers and television stations in one city. We need more diversity of media ownership.
October 24th, 2009 at 4:23 pmI worked side by side with many illegals from many nations, in other contractor crews for many years in the renovation business, working on the homes of the very wealthy.
They couldn’t speak a word of English and usually bust their asses without even the most basic safety equipment.
The contractors knew they were illegals, so did the designers and the archtiects and the clients.
Many of our clients also hired illegals as housekeepers/maids/nannies. We’d get to know them quite well because they were always around and we had to accommodate each others jobs.
Their treatment by their employers varied, but then the treatment we received as skilled craftsmen varied too and the attitudes towards their direct staff and us a subcontrators generally went hand in hand.
One ‘brownstone’ I worked at on 70th street was a $15-million renovation. The 40-ish Philipino housekeeper had her own nicely sized basement apartment, but it was just one room with a bathroom, which we the workers were required to use despite the other bathrooms being functional and the owners not being there because of the extent of the renovations.
The whole house (four floors plus the basement)could be remotely monitored by the clients over the Web (from California) but they insisted the housekeeper be resent at all times and only leave to satisfy whatever errand the clients/employer required, even though there was no housework to do because apart from her apartment the entire building was being worked-on.
Thanksgiving was a day-off for us workers, but not for her, and even though her sister (who was legal) was in hospital at the time, she was told she couldn’t leave to see her (and the remote Web monitoring ensured she couldn’t). We picked up our tools on Thanksgiving morning because it was easier than doing it the night before and she was still there, on her own, unable to go out and see her sister for fear of her employers displeasure.
We had bought her a small box of Godiva chocolates to cheer her up, but it was small consolation.
October 24th, 2009 at 4:23 pmLou Dobbs is a typical conservative: white, rich, bigoted, fat, racist, and doesn’t care about anyone that isn’t white, rich, bigoted, fat, and racist.
October 24th, 2009 at 4:28 pmMr.Duke says:
What part of ILLEGAL immigration don’t you people understand?
Since you moved back into your mom’s basement she has been wondering the same.
October 24th, 2009 at 4:30 pmIs this really a surprise to anyone? The network that gave Glenn Beck and Greta Suster0n their big intro to hate talk TV. Bill Hemmer and on and on, ad nauseum. Faux News reads like an alumni book of CNN. Dobbs is one of the few hatemongers that are left on CNN. They are trying to keep him from jumping to Faux. Why I don’t know.
October 24th, 2009 at 4:43 pmIt is far past time for Congress to repeal the 1996 Communications Act that our beloved DLC patriarch Bill Clinton pushed so hard for. It is time to let the FCC break up and control the extent of ownership of the corporate types in the media markets, both cable and broadcast.
There was a time when CNN was a terrific channel….once Ted Turner left it, it started its decline. I never watch CNN any more…..I cannot stand listening to Wolf Blitzer and the Situation Room is just horrible and very uninformative….;.the only redeeming part of that program is Jack Cafferty who calls it like he sees it.
Send CNN a message and just stop watching that network….watch MSNBC, the BBC (if you happen to get it), PBS or just go on the internet. By doing that instead of watching CNN we will be sending them a message that until they do something about their Dobbs problem, we will not tolerate it any longer. Call the advertisers on CNN and tell them we won’t purchase their products until something is done. Dobbs crossed the line a long, long time ago and it is time for him to just clean out his desk and go home to New Jersey and count his money. He is like a cancer that is spreading and it is very bad and should not be tolerated by anyone.
Larry King used to be interesting but he too has crossed over into horribly cheap and stupid stories.
October 24th, 2009 at 4:43 pmCanada has strict immigration laws I have heard they enforce.
Mexico not only has strict immigration laws, but laws against buying farm or ocean property.
Most other countries also enforce their immigration policies.
Here in the US where a blind eye is turned for corporate profit by hiring undocumented what are the people to do? And the double whan: the hiring of undocumented is done then exploited to fire up prejudges for distraction during election time.
October 24th, 2009 at 4:46 pmMorgan Harrington is missing.
October 24th, 2009 at 4:48 pmon the Fairness Doctrine:
The current arrangement of media maintains an informal but explicit “fairness doctrine” of its own, as epitomized by FOX’s laughable and decidedly ‘Frank Luntz-ian’ claim of being “Fair and Balanced.”
Example:
Pundit A ‘raises the alarm’ about “death panels” or “FEMA concentration camps”.
Pundit B calls bullshit
The Moderator/Arbiter treats the difference between the arguments/claims as equally valid, regardless of factual basis or intellectual merit.
The Fairness Doctrine was about political party access to publicly owned media which was supposed to be neutral.
The UK practices this still in that the principle political parties of Conservative and Labour are permitted parity of airtime for their specifically political broadcasts during elections, so that neither is given an advantage of access.
The consolidation of the majority of US media in private hands made the Fairness Doctrine impossible and pointless to implement, and so was deservedly rescinded–but it was eliminated specifically to facilitate the privatization of mass media and enable partisan advocacy, and specifically in favor of the political Right with the express intetn to exclude the political left.
To meaningfully re-introduce a “Fairness Dorctine” would require either a nationalization of the media as a whole (with accountable bipartisan oversight) or at least the constant monitoring and and balancing of ‘publicly-owned’ media media. But as there is so little publicly-owned media now, a Fairness Doctrine would only add to the present imbalance, not redress it.
October 24th, 2009 at 4:53 pmWTF? Does Dobbs have nekked pictures of everyone on CNN?
October 24th, 2009 at 5:01 pmZooey says:
WTF? Does Dobbs have nekked pictures of everyone on CNN?
Zooey, the idea that naked pictures of Wolf Blitzer might exist frightens me more than anything Dobbs ever said.
October 24th, 2009 at 5:02 pmSorry about that visual, Wayne. ;)
October 24th, 2009 at 5:04 pmWhen a new Republican president gets ushered in Dobbs will be appointed head of Homeland Security. How do you like him now, immigrants?
October 24th, 2009 at 5:04 pmI’m glad the news outlets are reporting extensively on Morgan’s disappearance.
October 24th, 2009 at 5:06 pmMany of the so-called ILLEGALS are descendants of Mayans,
which established a civilization in southern America 10,000 years before Europeans arrived.
For Dobbs and CNN to denigrate them as invaders is truely an
October 24th, 2009 at 5:07 pminsult. They have every right to be pissed off.
Sign the petition:
http://bastadobbs.com/action/org/moveon/
October 24th, 2009 at 5:08 pmtanglewood says:….
I’m in NJ, and I for one could do without Dobbs here. :D
Your are spot-n about CNN though.
It was like an American BBC when Ted was in charge. Ted made his billions because people appreciated what they were being provided.
The new owners just saw the advertising dollars being delivered, not the content that delivered them. CNN provides neither the quality of news/information that established the brand, nor the ‘entertainment’ that FOX provided that generated brand loyalty and still does.
I guffaw when right-wingers describe CNN as liberal when what it really is center-right, “libertarian” really.
October 24th, 2009 at 5:10 pmWtGRm…
Sad as it is, people go missing every day. What is the obsession over this particular person?
October 24th, 2009 at 5:12 pmShe’s puurrty …
October 24th, 2009 at 5:16 pmAnd female …
October 24th, 2009 at 5:17 pmAnd whi- … well, you get the point.
October 24th, 2009 at 5:18 pmWill you guys be eating candy on Halloween? I will be eating mine at the dollar store.
October 24th, 2009 at 5:19 pmgully, random, had enough…
thanks for the feedback on connection issues.
I expect variations and glitches from time to time of course, and background Windows updates can cause quirks. Points of potential failure are all pretty obvious butdiscerning cause form symptom can be tough.
In my experience its always been worth asking to see if the observed problem is shared or exclusive. It doesn’t prove anything of course, but it directs one’s focus towards at least a reasonable explanation (if not an actionable solution).
Thanks again for the responses.
( connection seems stable now, self-doubt/conspiracy theories are subsiding).
October 24th, 2009 at 5:25 pmWtGRm…
So, she’s a pretty white female who went missing. I hope with all my heart that she is found safe and sound and returned to her family and home soon. But what about all the missing people are are not pretty, and not white, and not female? Do you care about any of them, too?
October 24th, 2009 at 5:25 pmWayne @ 34
October 24th, 2009 at 5:32 pmI agree with your appraisal largely . Thanks for offering as usual a well thought out opinion . I concur .
Mr.Duke says:
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What part of ILLEGAL immigration don’t you people understand?
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Just maybe “you people” understand far more of the immigration debate than you appear to comprehend.
Check the labor statics, wages in the United States have been flat since 2000.
This has occurred even with productivity gains. Why? The employment market was flooded with workers (your illegal immigration). This held wages down. Even after 9/11 and all the security improvements, the immigration continued, across the boarder, planes, and boats. A large number walked through the various port authorities under the watchful blind eye of immigration.
Who benefited from the surplus of labor? “American Business” And please don’t forget the Carl Rove factor. Allow immigration and you capture the Hispanic vote.
It was a “win win” proposition at the time for the Bush Adminstration..
The down side of the immigration is schools that were not ready for the influx; our medical system is overwhelmed with the costs (higher insurance premiums) and our social services
agencies overwhelmed. The costs are spread across the communities. We the tax payer are being hit twice, flat wages and higher local government expenses.
The final icing on the cake, the very group that has profited the most from immigration is now screaming the loudest about immigration. This appears to be a bonanza for the Republican Party.
What do you do now Mr Duke? Pack them on boats and send them all home? You smug Republican s.o.b., you guys make me sick!
The cynic, flight
October 24th, 2009 at 5:32 pmAn emergency petition for the public option to the president .
October 24th, 2009 at 5:34 pmSo about the ecojelewry? Why did you feel you needed to do that?
October 24th, 2009 at 5:36 pmExtinction ?
October 24th, 2009 at 5:39 pmHonesty is far more persuasive…
October 24th, 2009 at 5:51 pmWayne A. Schneider says:
WtGRm…
So, she’s a pretty white female who went missing. I hope with all my heart that she is found safe and sound and returned to her family and home soon. But what about all the missing people are are not pretty, and not white, and not female? Do you care about any of them, too?
Wayne, my party takes their picks.
October 24th, 2009 at 5:52 pmI’m just hoping that we can get back to power so we can tarp off the undesirables.
October 24th, 2009 at 5:54 pmPresident Ailes would be fitting for an Ailing country.
October 24th, 2009 at 5:55 pmfreeman says:
Extinction ?
That describes you green party / la rouche / libertarian lunatics nicely! ;)
October 24th, 2009 at 5:56 pmfreeman says:
Wayne @ 34
I agree with your appraisal largely . Thanks for offering as usual a well thought out opinion . I concur .
You missed the part where no one gives a sh*t what you think – dork.
October 24th, 2009 at 5:57 pmjust the bleepn facts says:
freeman says:
Wayne @ 34
I agree with your appraisal largely . Thanks for offering as usual a well thought out opinion . I concur .
You missed the part where no one gives a sh*t what you think – dork.
Actually, I believe it’s you whose opinions lack support. I appreciate his compliments.
October 24th, 2009 at 5:59 pmGo ahead. Vote me down. Boo-bleepn-hoo.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:02 pmHow would you like the sight of Roger Ailes and Lou Dobbs cuddling naked together and a naked Glenn Beck walks in the room and serves them a lolipop to share? Wouldn’t that be vivid? Hairy buns all over the place.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:02 pmfreeman says:
An emergency petition for the public option to the president .
LOL! You are a such a pathetic dork! The president already said he’d “sign” a public option. Another waste of time from the “inept” radical lunatic wing of the left. No wonder Dennis K has been so “ineffective” if he’s even remotely as dumb as you are!
What you want to do is go after the blue dog senators, not Obama. They are the hold up and unless you can apply pressure from their states what Obama wants won’t really matter.
Wow, how do wipe your own *ss being that stupid? Or don’t you? It could explain the stench every time you post…
October 24th, 2009 at 6:02 pmThanks Wayne .
October 24th, 2009 at 6:03 pmRemarks such as bleeps are the reason I reached for the fairness doctrine actually . I couldn’t think of a way of using market diversity in order to make my point about differing opinions being good for actually advancing our understanding of the issues confronting us .
I know middle schoolers with bigger nads. What exactly is your weirdness? Don’t be such a sissy. You are safe here…
October 24th, 2009 at 6:03 pmWayne A. Schneider says:
Actually, I believe it’s you whose opinions lack support. I appreciate his compliments.
Yawn… Your incessant need to be “liked” by the
October 24th, 2009 at 6:04 pm“group” is really pathetic wayne. Grow up and grow a pair. You aren’t in high school anymore, stop trying to be the “popular” kid like some insecure loser.
Usually the vote down thing is where my communist shithead gets all warmed up to make a complete ass of himself.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:04 pmfreeman says:
Thanks Wayne .
Remarks such as bleeps are the reason I reached for the fairness doctrine actually . I couldn’t think of a way of using market diversity in order to make my point about differing opinions being good for actually advancing our understanding of the issues confronting us .
So you want to “shut down” my opinions? LOL! You understand “nothing” of the fairness doctrine. It doesn’t apply to “private” spaces, and it’s no a way for “you” to silence “your” critics. What a fool you are.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:05 pmWayne A. Schneider says:
Go ahead. Vote me down. Boo-bleepn-hoo.
Stop whining like a little insecure b**ch. I never voted you down you little whiner. It was probably freeman or one of the other “dorks” you prefer to defend.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:05 pmLooks like someone got into the wood alcohol. A pity, he was doing so well.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:07 pmfreeman says:
Re instating the fairness doctrine would go along way toward keeping newscasters honest .
Do you even know what was in the fairness doctrine?
The Fairness Doctrine had two basic elements: It required broadcasters to devote some of their airtime to discussing controversial matters of public interest, and to air contrasting views regarding those matters. Stations were given wide latitude as to how to provide contrasting views: It could be done through news segments, public affairs shows, or editorials. The doctrine did not require equal time for opposing views but required that contrasting viewpoints be presented.
If fox stated the opinion of the other side in their editorial, that could be construed as “complying” with the doctrine… ZZzz…
I have no problem with the fairness doctrine, but you are delusional if you think it would have an impact on someone like Fox….
October 24th, 2009 at 6:10 pmpete says:
Looks like someone got into the wood alcohol. A pity, he was doing so well.
You shouldn’t be so mean to freeman that way. His blind attacks on all things liberal is just his insecurity for having voted for Obama and deluding himself that Obama was Dennis K…
October 24th, 2009 at 6:11 pmI have been honest DB which is why I posted the personal information in the first place which then led to my being called an egotist .
October 24th, 2009 at 6:11 pmYou can see my face on my blog , I don’t hide behind a moniker . It seems that now that the democrats are in power dissent has outlived it’s usefulness here and I have been cast in the role of say ….. exley or jason hendler, who posted here before your time bleep .
Meet the Neo-Tories.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:11 pmI never voted you down Wayne, can you be honest and say the same? Hypocrisy much?
I’m out of here, whine on with your new “green party” concern troll libertarian sock buddy…
October 24th, 2009 at 6:12 pmfreeman says:
I have been honest DB which is why I posted the personal information in the first place which then led to my being called an egotist .
You can see my face on my blog , I don’t hide behind a moniker . It seems that now that the democrats are in power dissent has outlived it’s usefulness here and I have been cast in the role of say ….. exley or jason hendler, who posted here before your time bleep .
Yawn.. Victim much? Wow, you really are a professional whiner.
Just grow up already. You have a democrat in office that is working hard to improve the situation and all you can do is whine. And all Wayne can do is bag on anyone that points out how childish you’re being.
Both of you just need to grow up and remember what 8 years under Bush was like! How stupid can you possibly be?
October 24th, 2009 at 6:15 pmI wasn’t whining. And I don’t believe you. And lastly, I do not have an “incessant need to be liked by the group.” Either people like what I have to say or they don’t. If all of my comments were voted down all the time, I might start getting the idea I wasn’t welcome here. So far, I haven’t been feeling that way, so I will continue to offer my opinions (and occasional snark).
If people want me to stop commenting here and to go away, this would be the perfect place for them to express that opinion.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:15 pmjust the bleepn facts says:
Yawn… Your incessant need to be “liked” by the
“group” is really pathetic wayne. Grow up and grow a pair. You aren’t in high school anymore, stop trying to be the “popular” kid like some insecure loser.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Looks like rhf needs to have his meds checked again.
Yeah, I know this means you’ll start trashing me at every opportunity, but I don’t give a shit. You go off the rails and start attacking anything that dares to deviate from your idea of “truth,” so it wouldn’t be anything new. I defend my friends, especially when they haven’t done a single thing to “earn” your attacks.
Deal with it.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:21 pmOh God. The self-pitying troll. It’s always about them. How they are ‘victims’ It is NEVER their fault! It’s always the ‘Media’, ‘Gotcha questions’ and their favorite whipping boy, ‘The Evil Liberals’. It’s getting old man.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:24 pmCan we talk about it?
October 24th, 2009 at 6:28 pmDB is the question addressed to me or bleep ?
October 24th, 2009 at 6:29 pmI want to talk about it! Do you like taco salad?
October 24th, 2009 at 6:30 pmYou guys should pick up Italian Cheesy Bread!
October 24th, 2009 at 6:31 pmThanks, Zooey. I love you, too. (And Jane knows it.) :)
October 24th, 2009 at 6:32 pmTouchy, touchy. Actually, since I know better than to get in the middle of this particular kind of fight, I was just making a snarky comment about Louie. Don’t worry, rhf, if I take exception to one of your posts I will address you with my comment. Deal?
October 24th, 2009 at 6:35 pmCNN has this money problem with Dobbs. Fox is actively recruiting Dobbs and CNN doesn’t want to give up this cash cow. Instead, they are giving up what little remaining integrity they had in favor of the almighty dollar.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:37 pmFinish it off with a piece of decadent Apple Strudel Cheesecake.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:38 pmWhere are the Libertarian trolls claiming that only governments, not corporations, commit censorship? This piece ties in with McCain’s anti-Net Neutrality bill. Corporations want to shut off all avenues of communication to information that isn’t in their interest for the public to know. CNN doesn’t want any criticism or disagreement with Lou Dobbs agenda so they can make it appear that there is none by censoring critics and refusing to cover demonstrations. Just imagine if McCain succeeds. You won’t be able to access any news sources other than ones controlled by major corporate interests.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:49 pmLooks like at least two someones want me to leave. I wish I knew who they were. Oh, well, I guess I’ll never know.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:50 pmPeople like Lou Dobbs have been around forever. I remember my dad always listening to Gabriel Heater. I couldn’t understand then why my dad listened to Heater’s trash and I can’t understand now why people listen to Dobbs’ trash now. The message of hate has been stale for at least 60 years.
October 24th, 2009 at 6:58 pmMs. Garcia has a serious problem on her hands if she thinks she lives in a Latino community. If it is such, the Latino community is divided by those who were raised in the US and wish to assimilate and those who where raised elsewhere and cling to traditional Latino ways.
The division does not stop there. The gaping cultural divisions among Latinos from Central and South America and Europe and the idea of a Latino community threaten to destabilize a cultural identity for millions of Mexican/Americans, and those with heritage from other Latin countries, who were born in the US.
We share a common Spanish language, but the similarities stop there. We are proud to be Americans. Those of us born here do not wish to be thrown in with the rest of the asylum-seeking Latinos from all parts of Central and South America. We are not a community. We are individual Americans.
October 24th, 2009 at 7:00 pmGeorge Bush and his cronies down along the Gulf Coast love the illegal immigrants!
October 24th, 2009 at 7:03 pmIt wasn’t me Wayne! Yes, I’m a liar by trade; after all I am a republican. BUT I’m making an exception just for you by telling the truth. One-time only.
October 24th, 2009 at 7:12 pmWayne , your an excellent poster , one of the best on the site . You are polite even when you disagree and your posts rarely lack substance .
October 24th, 2009 at 7:13 pmSorry but I’m not going anywhere so don’t sprain your wrists when voting me down . I am not here to win a popularity contest but believe this is one of the better soap boxes available to affect the debate going on in Washington as an average citizen .
What the GOP REALLY means … says:
BUT I’m making an exception just for you by telling the truth. One-time only.
October 24th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Do you need an icepack? Aspirin?
October 24th, 2009 at 7:15 pmStop the vote the vote down shit and face me you liberal communist shithead. Is it you, beefeater? Aren’t you the one who wanted Clinton to regulate the economy? Aren’t you the dandy principled conservative ..
You know something, pal. Those cows fart so you can have your beef!
October 24th, 2009 at 7:24 pmLOL Zooey
October 24th, 2009 at 7:25 pmThanks, freeman. I wasn’t looking in your direction. I’m guessing just-facts-(that-republicans-hate) is one culprit, despite his denials. Which is fine. I voted some of his down, too.
There, I just admitted it. Yes, I vote people down, especially trolls who just show up to cause trouble.
October 24th, 2009 at 7:26 pmZooey says:
Do you need an icepack? Aspirin?
PLEASE! Send it first-class over the google and the internets. Telling the truth for me is like working the first day at a job for which I’m supremely unqualified.
October 24th, 2009 at 7:28 pmWhere was I?
Oh, right …
Obami has an emenies list and Fox News reported that he’s researching state-by-state voter registrations and now adding individuals to the list. And once he’s done with that he’s going to add a surveillance division to Homeland Security and stake out the homes of every last republican in America. And then for doing 24/7 monitoring outside their homes, the feds will collect daily fees from the victimized republicans for their forcibly-provided services. He’s going to do it. And there’s no proving me wrong.
October 24th, 2009 at 7:39 pmOne last call. Come out from the attic or flying saucer in Colorado and face me.
October 24th, 2009 at 7:41 pmI live in a very mixed community that celebrates the heritage of its diverse members. The same community center hosts lutefisk dinners with the same frequency that it celebrates Latin cultures, Asian cultures, and African cultures. We also have a McDonald’s flanked by an authentic Korean restaurant (the best pork “egg rolls” I’ve ever had though they aren’t quite the same as any others I’ve tried) and a very nice Sonoran Mexican restaurant.
Perhaps the thing I like the best about my community is the richness provided by those who cherish the cultures of their ancestors, no matter how distant. I enjoy hearing the children speaking better English than some of their parents and I enjoy the lively conversations carried on in several languages simultaneously. And I get excited as hell when a chance conversation provides a little insight to life in Equatorial Africa, S.E. Asia, or Baltimore.
I’ve learned to cherish the little bits of our shrinking World and those wouldn’t exist if our citizens simply assimilated. And expecting anyone, whether their Grandparents were German or Honduran, to abandon their culture is just silly.
October 24th, 2009 at 7:42 pmObama has an enemies list? Nope! He just wrote the words “Fox News” on a piece of paper and did what the rest of do when we write these words down: draw a big red circle around them and then a line through it!
October 24th, 2009 at 7:47 pmHow pathetic are conservatives in our country? Well, for starters…Redstate can’t believe ABC News put their logo on the bottom right hand corner of the following picture of Nancy Pelosi!….
http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/10/24/is-abc-offering-strategic-deniable-editorializing/
This is what we’re up against people! These morons are fine with spending billions a day in Iraq and in Afghanistan, cringe at the idea of health care reform, but when ABC puts it’s station’s logo on the same screen of the person you’re filming…well….the right wing of America goes bananas! See?
October 24th, 2009 at 7:53 pmI agree with Pete.
America has plenty of faults…but More People from More Places All Around the World Call it HOME…than any other country.
This is an Incredible ASSET. Those who view it as a Problem have a Problem.
October 24th, 2009 at 7:54 pmThe UN belongs here , we are the planet .
October 24th, 2009 at 8:00 pm. I am not here to win a popularity contest but believe this is one of the better soap boxes available to affect the debate going on in Washington as an average citizen .
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How So?
October 24th, 2009 at 8:08 pmpete@111, I couldn’t agree more. I live in a multicultural area and love it. My father and many of his peers fled because they were brought up in a time when diversity was frowned upon. Sad.
October 24th, 2009 at 8:14 pmSorry O.T.
Comparing Canadian and American Health Care
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARxjQ3IRqvg
October 24th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
I’ve never been able to understand xenophobia, P.D. even though I’ve witnessed it.
Perhaps it’s because I’ve always idolized scientists? It seems that there are two different reactions when faced with someone/something different. One can either explore the new thing and try to understand it or one can react in fear and simply proclaim anything different “wrong”.
I can tell from the reactions I get that few people bother to ask, “you have a fascinating accent, may I ask your native language?” But how else would I find out that “Al” from Ghana doesn’t miss the snakes?
October 24th, 2009 at 8:35 pmNote to CNN: this sort of dishonesty on your part results in the loss of how many viewers? You’ve lost me, & I’m not even Latino. Just imagine how many more, because you can’t be honest with your viewers. You aren’t Fox, after all. Or are you?
October 24th, 2009 at 8:40 pmpete @ 111
I also live in a multicultural section of the city. I like the diversity and so do my children. Friends of my children have noticed the sterility of their suburban homes and enjoy a stay in the city. Couldn’t agree with you more.
I enjoy your wordsmith abilities, always a pleasure to read!
flight
October 24th, 2009 at 8:40 pmpete@119, When I was a young girl, Star Trek was really popular. But we couldn’t watch it. Why? My father wouldn’t say, but that’s when as a young girl, I realized he didn’t like the fact the crew was diverse. It taught me a lesson. Sesame Street told us the world was a melting pot. But for people like my father, that was a bad thing. I never understood then, and i don’t want to understand now.
October 24th, 2009 at 8:47 pmWhile the issue of immigration is red meat to the Christian-right GOP and their sheep, it seems all to likely that it will be the swansong for CNN’s Dobbs. And rightfully so.
Dobbs has no place to go but down. He’s too stupid to run for office. He couldn’t even host a game show on channel 9987. His choices are hate radio or Fox noise. Big whoop. Everyone expects that and while it might pad his bank account temporarily, it is still his end of the career road.
Can’t happen soon enough.
October 24th, 2009 at 8:50 pmI was more fortunate, P.D.
My Dad took me to see Shirly Bassie and Louis Armstrong. He also hosted associates from around the world (I once spent an afternoon fishing with Dad, a WW2 vet, and his clients who were also vets, one from Germany and one from Japan. In fact Mr. Spangler had decided to settle here because of his experience as a POW in Arizona!) and, in addition to five formative years in San Diego where our next door neighbors were Iranian and Palestinian, he took me traveling; including two weeks in Europe when I was ten.
I guess that I’ve always known that people have many more similarities than differences and most of the differences are cool as Hell.
October 24th, 2009 at 9:06 pmpete@124, I envy you for that. Although I love my father, ever since Obama won, he’s been getting more irrational. He is a Beck Devotee(Although he won’t admit anymore) And he will never come around. I hope he will, but I’m not optimistic. And I’m the kind of persom who views the glass as half full.
October 24th, 2009 at 9:12 pmThank you, flight. I find that waxing poetic orders my thoughts and forces me to fully consider the meaning of words.
October 24th, 2009 at 9:13 pm.
ABCNNBCBS&FOXPRAVDA
(abc.cnn.nbc.cbs & foxpravda)
They all edit to fit THE agenda!
American News is no longer hard hitting research journalism. News in America is delivered TABLOID STYLE! Gossip, opinion, and rumors dominate the discourse while reporting, as Colbert succinctly commented, is all about copy, paste and repeat.
Fox’s history has recently been marked by the Obama Administration correctly. Both for past history of being THE spokes station FOR the G(no)P and Bush Administration AND for the current G(no)P and Teabaggers. FOX IS a Political Station because their history points to a constant of platforming ONLY G(no)P talking points. Thus earning them more a “PRAVDA” than the others. However so, do not let that fool your senses.
THEY ALL hang on to the opposing opinion-haters and makers…
… To maintain the semblance of NO improprieties where there are many.
Lou Dobbs, is but ONE example of how ONE station maintains THAT semblance of being “FAIR and BALANCED“…
… Agenda Completed thus making the “SPIN” easily repeatable.
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October 24th, 2009 at 9:14 pmP.D.
Dad passed in April 2001 so he didn’t see what Bushco did to his country and his, usual, party. He did think Bush was an idiot though. He wrote in “NO” for President in 2000. That being said, I’m not sure he would have been able to let himself believe the horrible truth.
I have a great deal of sympathy for some of the old guard. It seems that they simply can’t believe, despite all evidence, that our former elected government turned us into a nation of war criminals. I can’t recall the exact moment of my epiphany but it wasn’t until it became clear there had never been WMD or a link between Saddam and AQ that I was able to internalize the fact that MY nation launched a criminal war based on fabricated intelligence. I think I got drunk for an extended number of days.
I can understand those who would rather believe a web of lies than that awful truth.
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pete@128, My father is Philly born and bred. In the 50s he saw his neighborhood change drastically. Just think ‘West Side Story’ without the music and talent. I think that completely skewed his view. Even though he and my grandparents left for suburbia, he will never let go. And the funny thing is, my grandmother was the ultimate Liberal. I have fond memories of their arguments. Particulary about Anita Hill and Ollie North. How I miss my Gran!
October 24th, 2009 at 9:33 pmSaddam was helped into power by the US WAAG
October 24th, 2009 at 9:34 pm@130, STFU.
October 24th, 2009 at 9:34 pmIf I wanted the opinion of a pre-dead POS like you, Daryll, I’d visit Rapture Ready. STFU and let those who believe in the future make our plans for living in it without the doomsaying from the cheap seats.
October 24th, 2009 at 9:37 pmGod told Bush to create the Dept. of Homeland Security and weaken FEMA because those folks in New Orleans had it too good.
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2 people do not a country make. I am praying for your soul WaAG for it is lost.
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Is not the earth populated by GODs creation?
October 24th, 2009 at 9:47 pmAre we as GODs children not populist?
Do you seek inequality for GODs children WaAG?
October 24th, 2009 at 9:47 pm@136, You are a fool. Iraqi womwan were one of the most educated in the entire region! We supplied Sadam with WMD in the 80s! Jesus! Even Rummy was photographed shaking his hand! You are either grossly ignorant or completely hopeless. I believe you are both. Get lost!
October 24th, 2009 at 9:48 pmI can’t speak for anyone else but the thought of the pre-dead being in charge of defenseless souls makes me ill. I weep for another poor girl who has every odd stacked against her. This isn’t fun anymore.
G’night.
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How can one of GODs children say that some of humanity is not of GOD if you believe that GOD created the earth?
October 24th, 2009 at 9:49 pmYou cannot have order until you stop fighting.
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October 24th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
waag aka: Darryyll: will you and the family be traveling to Brazil, hoping to save souls and “shake off the devil” before the Olympics begin?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:00 pmWho created this devil you speak of?
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I hear the devil lives in Puerta Plata
October 24th, 2009 at 10:04 pm#
Xisithrus says:
Tell that to your President, he is the one bolstering a war that is a lost cause </blockquote
Why?
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You elected him. You currently support him. You need to inform him via email message/letter to stop the war.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:05 pm.
I love it when the (R)ighteous come here to tell us to get o.f.f. OUR pedestals.
I love it. L-O-V-E it!
‘Cause you know the only thing Jesus ever was propped upon was a cross…
… And it wasn’t even his. It was pure (R)oman design!
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October 24th, 2009 at 10:05 pmHe?
As I recall the morning star, Lucem Ferre, the bringer or bearer of light, was the planet venus.
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Xisithrus says:
He was an Angel who was kicked out of Heaven for refusing to follow God’s command to bow down to Adam.
He?
As I recall the morning star, Lucem Ferre, the bringer or bearer of light, was the planet venus.
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I apologize, Angels have no sex. They are created from light. Now your belief regarding the devil and the planet Venus is extremely wrong.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:08 pmBut Venus is so scary.
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Hitler talked a lot like worhip and adore god.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:11 pmBut didnt GOD say let there be light? And Isnt Lucifer the light bringer?
And no, Jesus said he was the bright and morning star and offspring of David
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There will be consequences if CNN doesn’t let Dobbs go. None of it good.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:11 pmHitler liked order too.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:12 pmI dont believe in a devil, Darryl, thats your belief your pinning on others.
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Unless it was a union
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But you just said angels are of light
October 24th, 2009 at 10:13 pmTrue X, but hitler talked a lot about order. He was a very christain man.
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Jesus is coming back, but while we are on this earth, we will have order in this nation, which means that illegal immigration must cease.
worship and adore God,
Could you please explain. How on earth did you formulate this?
curious, flight
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death camps?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:15 pmHe is consisted of light, but he is still evil.
Why?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:15 pmHitler had issues with immigrants.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:16 pmYou’re a child of the devil, Huckabee c ocksucker.
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worship and adore God says:
flight says:
Jesus is coming back, but while we are on this earth, we will have order in this nation, which means that illegal immigration must cease.
worship and adore God,
Could you please explain. How on earth did you formulate this?
curious, flight
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The book of Revelation and are laws regarding illegal entry into our country.
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“Are” should be “our”.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:17 pmSo now he is darkness?
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worship, do you think we should have more god in our public schools?
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Look how Dobbs has infected the way CNN edits out things from their “news”. This is just the beginning if they don’t let Dobbs go now. The trustworthiness of CNN has suffered a blow from this that can only be remedied by termination.
Remember CNN, if you start covering for this guy, Dobbs is a guy that likes to “take over” the network he works for…
October 24th, 2009 at 10:18 pmSo, illegals are the devil?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:19 pmWorship etc. says:
No, but my wife and I will be leaving our daughter (that sounds great) with her grandparents after Christmas to travel to Puerto Plata, Republica de Dominica for some R&R.
Young man, I believe your child is less than 4 months old. This is way too soon to leave her for such a frivolous trip. Our politics may be different, but her infant immune system and her parents need to bond with her requires that your wife not interrupt breast-feeding so soon. Please defer your vacation for a while.
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Fred says:
worship, do you think we should have more god in our public schools?
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The reason why our children are misguided is because God has been removed from our schools (bible, religious courses, etc.).
October 24th, 2009 at 10:19 pmThe devil is not fire and brimstone but cold darkness. Yes I think I get it.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:20 pmDarryl wants his crappy storyteller to be president. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Is it storwie time, Darly? You need Wuckabee in your wittle bedwoom?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:20 pmOutstandingInMyField says:
Worship etc. says:
No, but my wife and I will be leaving our daughter (that sounds great) with her grandparents after Christmas to travel to Puerto Plata, Republica de Dominica for some R&R.
Young man, I believe your child is less than 4 months old. This is way too soon to leave her for such a frivolous trip. Our politics may be different, but her infant immune system and her parents need to bond with her requires that your wife not interrupt breast-feeding so soon. Please defer your vacation for a while.
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We need the R&R, and we will only be in Puerto Plata for a week. The only alternative is to bring her with us. She will be fine.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:21 pmworship, do you see Christianity as the foundation of our national morality and the family as the basis of national life.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:22 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
Darryl wants his crappy storyteller to be president. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Is it storwie time, Darly? You need Wuckabee in your wittle bedwoom?
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I am not worried because many democrats and your President will be out of office by 2012 (you guys are doing nothing to help the populist). The American people are angry at your party for lack of productivity.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:23 pmFreeze in hell mister!!
Im joking.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:23 pmworship and adore God @ 182
October 24th, 2009 at 10:23 pmThe Book of Revelations is your source. Please tell me teacher, how do you deduce this truth from this book? You see, I at a loss.
I’ve read the book of Revelation many times and I simply can’t see how you relate it to the problem of illegal immigration. Could someone please explain?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:24 pmI will agree that we did supply Sadaam with weaponry, but we did not expect him to use this weaponry for negative purposes (Kuwait, citizens, etc.).
Please tell us, Darryl, what “positive purposes” there are for using the kind of biological and chemical weapons we sold Saddam?
And of course we expected him to use them. We knew what kind of person he was, and of what atrocities he was capable. But we did it anyway. What would justify that, Darryl?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:24 pmFred says:
worship, do you see Christianity as the foundation of our national morality and the family as the basis of national life.
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You must be a holy person because you understand the actual concept and purpose for this nation/world. Yes,yes, yes.
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I’ll pray the salvation army gives me a tax-deductible receipt for your pathetic caricature, Darly.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:25 pmOutstandingInMyField says:
I’ve read the book of Revelation many times and I simply can’t see how you relate it to the problem of illegal immigration. Could someone please explain?
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The book of Revelation discusses the Rapture and the end time. Our laws discuss the illegal entry of people.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:26 pmDarryl,
I was just watching something on the Hitlery Channel (a/k/a “History Channel”) called “God vs. Satan.” It said that a lot of what was “known” about the coming Apocalypse came from Revelations. I ask you. What credentials did John have that would make everyone believe everything he said? From where did his credibility come? Why was he believed and not dismissed as some doom-and-gloom crackpot?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:26 pmYou do realize that only 8 million jobs were created during George God Spoke To Me time in office, which have pretty much been wiped out from 2007 to 2009?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:27 pmLet’s see, we covered:
keeping order
problem with race
god in school
national morality
national family
You sound just like this guy:
October 24th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
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I’ll pray the salvation army gives me a tax-deductible receipt for your pathetic caricature, Darly.
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I’ll pray the salvation army gives me a tax-deductible receipt for your pathetic caricature, Darly.
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Jesus love you, and I do, too!
October 24th, 2009 at 10:27 pmSo, if I understand you correctly, you believe there is a justifiable use for weapons of mass destruction like biological and chemical weapons?
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I am not worried because many democrats and your President will be out of office by 2012 (you guys are doing nothing to help the populist). The American people are angry at your party for lack of productivity.
Yes, we expect the republican party to crack down on wall street and get credit flowing to small businesses again. How does it feel to sit on your fat ass and criticize others in their attempt to clean up the mess you left hehind, Darly?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:30 pmworship and adore God says:
Fred says:
worship and adore God says:
Yes,yes, yes.
Let’s see, we covered:
keeping order
problem with race
god in school
national morality
national family
You sound just like this guy:
“Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith.”
“We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.”
“The National Government will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built up. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality and the family as the basis of national life.”
ADOLF HITLER
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Hitler is horrible man whom is in hell. But his perception is correct.
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“Perspective” instead of “perception”.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:30 pmflight at #198, I see you have the same questions I do.
Worship and adore God says: We need the R&R, and we will only be in Puerto Plata for a week. The only alternative is to bring her with us. She will be fine.
Take her with you. Why would you need a break from your little blessing? It’s too soon to be seperated for so long. What will she eat?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:30 pmI’m outta here. This troll is a pathetic loser. Not worth any more of my time. I’m watching his comments and it makes me sick. Later my fellow TPers.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:31 pmDarryl,
Could you please try to be a little more particular about the stuff you copy from other comments? You don’t need to copy even the time stamp and votes up or down part. Thank you for making this minor adjustment. Please, continue responding to the questions put to you.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:32 pmHitler had the right perspective?
If he was horrible and did the things you reccommend then I’m confused.
Where do you draw the line between hate and action?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:33 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
I am not worried because many democrats and your President will be out of office by 2012 (you guys are doing nothing to help the populist). The American people are angry at your party for lack of productivity.
Yes, we expect the republican party to crack down on wall street and get credit flowing to small businesses again. How does it feel to sit on your fat ass and criticize others in their attempt to clean up the mess you left hehind, Darly?
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How can a person accomplish anything when they are constantly on camera 24/7? How can Congress actually work for the people when they consult and receive payments and gifts from lobbyist while chastising them? How can Americans do their part when their Government will not fight for them?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:33 pmHitler is horrible man whom is in hell. But his perception is correct.
In turn, Darryl just called himself a horrible man.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:33 pmHitler was awful but his perceptions correct.
Okay, this is like asking Jeffry Dahmer for bible lessons
October 24th, 2009 at 10:33 pmred says:
Hitler had the right perspective?
If he was horrible and did the things you reccommend then I’m confused.
Where do you draw the line between hate and action?
Right perspective, wrong actions (social cleansing).
October 24th, 2009 at 10:34 pmworship and adore God says:
The book of Revelation discusses the Rapture and the end time. Our laws discuss the illegal entry of people.
Well yeah, but that doesn’t really explain how you relate thetwo.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:35 pm#
Wayne A. Schneider says:
Wayne A. Schneider says:
Please tell us, Darryl, what “positive purposes” there are for using the kind of biological and chemical weapons we sold Saddam?
worship and adore God says:
For defensive purposes.
So, if I understand you correctly, you believe there is a justifiable use for weapons of mass destruction like biological and chemical weapons?
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If your nation is attacked, yes.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:35 pmSo, on this one issue, immigration, what do we do with them?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:36 pmOutstandingInMyField says:
worship and adore God says:
The book of Revelation discusses the Rapture and the end time. Our laws discuss the illegal entry of people.
Well yeah, but that doesn’t really explain how you relate thetwo.
LOOK! ONE THE COMMANDMENTS IS “THOU SHALL NOT LIE”! THESE PEOPLE ARE LIARS (FRAUD) AND PERPETRATORS (ILLEGAL ENTRY).
October 24th, 2009 at 10:37 pmjust worship and adore life on earth
October 24th, 2009 at 10:37 pmFred says:
worship and adore God says:
Right perspective, wrong actions (social cleansing).
So, on this one issue, immigration, what do we do with them?
Do you remember operation wetback?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:38 pmSo your for death?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:38 pmApe-Man says:
just worship and adore life on earth
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Only worship God, not material things.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:38 pmHow can a person accomplish anything when they are constantly on camera 24/7? How can Congress actually work for the people when they consult and receive payments and gifts from lobbyist while chastising them? How can Americans do their part when their Government will not fight for them?
I read in the first sentence an exaggeration and the rest a perfect description of the republicans’ time in power. I remember Congress working for the people when the GOP held the reigns — 3 days a week.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:39 pmPretty offensive. Refresh my memory.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:39 pmIf your nation is attacked, yes.
Even though it would violate International Law to use them?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:39 pmAnother of the commandments is thou shall not kill
October 24th, 2009 at 10:39 pmI might as well be talking to my dog here but…
WAAG,
Does it matter to you that that the illegal immigrants of which you speak are overwhelmingly devout Christians?
What makes you think that the USA is Gods chosen land?
This country was founded by Masons…not Christens. Masons believe in God (supreme architect of the universe) and accept (nearly) ALL religions as long as a supreme being is recognized. Reference to God by the founding fathers doesn’t necessarily mean Jesus.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:40 pmI was going to congratulate Daryll on the birth of his daughter, but after reading this thread, I’m concerned that Daryll may need psychological counseling — more than ever.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:40 pmBut but but I just sent money to Pat Roberston to heal me!
October 24th, 2009 at 10:40 pmDid you notice Bush was only concerned that his soul remain intact [he claims], and not about the millions of lives he ended or destroyed during his rein of terror. Did you notice that.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:41 pmWayne A. Schneider @ 205,
October 24th, 2009 at 10:42 pmThe book of Revelations has baffled people for years. I ran across a book named “Lamb’s Supper”, written by Scott Hahn a biblical scholar. The accounting of Revelations by Hahn is far different from the generally accepted version. According to Hahn, John laid the foundation of the liturgy of the Mass that is still in use today by Catholic and Orthodox Churches. The liturgy has not changed from the time of John.
This is the primary purpose of the book of Revelations.
Why does Pat Roberston need diamond mines and my money Daryll?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:42 pmMycelium says:
I agree. The Framers were Deists, primarily, who recognized that when a government chooses a religion and tells everyone they must practice that, and only that, religion, bad things will happen. They believed everyone should be free to worship or not as they chose for themselves (and for their wives, children, and slaves.)
October 24th, 2009 at 10:43 pmworship are you going to tell me? 226 I’m not posting it again.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:44 pmworship and adore God says:
LOOK! ONE THE COMMANDMENTS IS “THOU SHALL NOT LIE”! THESE PEOPLE ARE LIARS (FRAUD) AND PERPETRATORS (ILLEGAL ENTRY)
But the Ten Commandments are not found in the Book of Revelations, so I’m still missing the connection here. I could point out that the Samaritan was also an illegal alien in the country he was traveling through (as well as an Iraqi) and he was honored for his compassion.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:44 pmHey Darly, name one function of the presidency that Obama isn’t fulfilling. He makes lots of time to do lots of things and — *gasp* — you idiots don’t think he’s doing enough. Bush stayed behind the gates and away from the media and left idiots like you to fill in the blanks. And you filled it in alright with your cowboy fantasies.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:45 pm#
What the GOP REALLY means … says:
How can a person accomplish anything when they are constantly on camera 24/7? How can Congress actually work for the people when they consult and receive payments and gifts from lobbyist while chastising them? How can Americans do their part when their Government will not fight for them?
I read in the first sentence an exaggeration and the rest a perfect description of the republicans’ time in power. I remember Congress working for the people when the GOP held the reigns — 3 days a week.
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Your President is on camera much more than any other President. He campaigns more than any other President. He uses the plane more than any other President. Based on these actions, how can he accomplish anything. Also, your response regarding Congress is sorry. Tell the truth, democratic officials have not accomplish anything. This is why the public is angry. This is why many seats will be lost.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:45 pm“Thou shalt not lie” is not one of the ten commandments.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:46 pmExactly Wayne
Hence “Freedom of Religion”
October 24th, 2009 at 10:46 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
Hey Darly, name one function of the presidency that Obama isn’t fulfilling. He makes lots of time to do lots of things and — *gasp* — you idiots don’t think he’s doing enough. Bush stayed behind the gates and away from the media and left idiots like you to fill in the blanks. And you filled it in alright with your cowboy fantasies.
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LEADERSHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 24th, 2009 at 10:46 pmDid you notice how Bush remains concerned only about himself, his legacy, and his imagined personal after-life, and not concerned about the millions of living lives that he terminated, or made into a living hell. Did you notice that.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:46 pmDaryll, you forget GWB holds the vacation record and had no exit plan for either Iraq or Afghanistan
October 24th, 2009 at 10:47 pmWhat do you want big government to do for you anyway, Darly? Do you need more government in your life, Suckabee?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:48 pm#
OutstandingInMyField says:
worship and adore God says:
LOOK! ONE THE COMMANDMENTS IS “THOU SHALL NOT LIE”! THESE PEOPLE ARE LIARS (FRAUD) AND PERPETRATORS (ILLEGAL ENTRY)
But the Ten Commandments are not found in the Book of Revelations, so I’m still missing the connection here. I could point out that the Samaritan was also an illegal alien in the country he was traveling through (as well as an Iraqi) and he was honored for his compassion.
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Render unto Caesar what is his. Caesar says that we are a sovereign nation.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:48 pmOdd:
Approval of Congress Hits Four-Year High, Fueled by Dems
Congress seems to be much more popular with less republicans.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:49 pm#
What the GOP REALLY means … says:
What do you want big government to do for you anyway, Darly? Do you need more government in your life, Suckabee?
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Nope less government (Read Adam Smith’s “The invisible hand”). Government should properly regulate or conduct oversight on important industries.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:49 pmworship and adore God says:
Render unto Caesar what is his. Caesar says that we are a sovereign nation.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
When did Caesar say that? And which Caesar?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:49 pmWait. Now you are for Czars [Kaiser, Czar, Tsar, Quaisar]?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:49 pmFred says:
worship and adore God says:
Tell the truth, democratic officials have not accomplish anything. This is why the public is angry. This is why many seats will be lost.
Odd:
Approval of Congress Hits Four-Year High, Fueled by Dems
Congress seems to be much more popular with less republicans.
A March 2009 linear graph is lame (right after the inauguration). Currently, their rating is low. Try again.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:51 pmworship and adore God,
October 24th, 2009 at 10:51 pmI suggest you check my posting at 59 and then explain just who perpetuated the wrongful action with respect to illegal imigration!
Daryll, what will you do as gay marriage spreads across the nation, eventually being legal in every state?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:52 pmZooey says:
worship and adore God says:
Render unto Caesar what is his. Caesar says that we are a sovereign nation.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
When did Caesar say that? And which Caesar?
Are forefathers.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:52 pmAdam Smith has been dead for over 200 years, never set foot in this country, and he lived with his mummy until she died.
Who cares what he had to say?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:52 pmOur forefathers were greek pagans?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:53 pmFred says:
Daryll, what will you do as gay marriage spreads across the nation, eventually being legal in every state?
Want happen. Not under my watch. Many people see these individuals as perverts who need help. But I know a man from Galilee, if you are in sin, he will set you free.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:53 pmPersonally, I think Monotheism was a step backwards from Polytheism. It would have made far more sense to go from attributing all the good and evil in the world to one god, to attributing different things (good and bad) to different gods. At least it would have been some kind of progression of critical thinking. It would have meant taking the important step of realizing that there are many things afoot in the Universe, and it isn’t all the result of one being’s work.
I believe that I have less of a problem grasping the infinite than many true religious believers. I do not believe that there had to be a First Cause. I believe that what we perceive as the Universe has always been around, since long before our own section of it emerged from the explosive forces of the Big Bang (which happened inside an already-existing universe, which is the only way to explain how astronomers could observe things older than the universe.)
There never was a “beginning” to the Universe and there won’t be an “end” to it, either. Whether and for how long Earth can remain an inhabitable planet for humans is an entirely different question. We might poison the atmosphere completely for ourselves, or we might get hit by a planet-killing asteroid at the end of 2012. Either way, the Universe will continue to exist.
Have a nice day. :)
October 24th, 2009 at 10:54 pmZooey @ 253, gotta just love that one
October 24th, 2009 at 10:54 pmworship and adore God says:
Are forefathers.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Yeah, right. We live in ancient Roman times, I get it.
Seek help, Daryll. You have the time, since you’re not helping your wife with the baby.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:54 pm#250 ????? Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s and unto God the things that are God’s. Neither the secular or divine ruler made any comment on our sovereign nation, though I’m pretty sure Caesar would have informed us we were all peasants.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:54 pmZooey says:
Adam Smith has been dead for over 200 years, never set foot in this country, and he lived with his mummy until she died.
Who cares what he had to say?
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His book makes a logical point regarding the Government’s affect on industry when they are allowed to dictate enterprise.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:55 pm“The American people are angry at your party for lack of productivity.”
WTF? Darryl, I hope for your child’s sake that you will soon start using your brain and your eyes for a change. You’re definitely not living in the real world.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:55 pmAwwww, thanks flight.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:56 pmIt already is happening and you’ve done nothing to stop it. New states every few weeks are making gay marriage legal.
Why haven’t you stopped it?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:56 pmZooey says:
worship and adore God says:
Are forefathers.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Yeah, right. We live in ancient Roman times, I get it.
Seek help, Daryll. You have the time, since you’re not helping your wife with the baby.
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First of all, we share the duties, but she is the stay at home mom, I am the bread winner. Second, those who created the Constitution believed in America as a sovereign nation.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:57 pmworship and adore God says:
His book makes a logical point regarding the Government’s affect on industry when they are allowed to dictate enterprise.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
SO?
October 24th, 2009 at 10:57 pmworship and adore God says:
First of all, we share the duties, but she is the stay at home mom, I am the bread winner. Second, those who created the Constitution believed in America as a sovereign nation.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
First of all, does your wife know exactly how little respect you have for her?
Second, our nation was not created but f ucking Caesar.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:59 pmIt’s more impatience than anger. The problem with Americans is that they think both parties are equally attuned to pocket book isues when it’s clear the democrats typically do better with the economy. So when republicans slow-churn these problems and call the lead-up the “good times”, Americans, who misplaced their votes, expect fast solutions when all goes to hell. Sorry, it’s a tangled web. You could have avoided the far-right vote in the first place. Maybe if you all could stop worrying about the size of government at a time when the government is trying to pull you out of a mess, as per your vote, we wouldn’t be in these deep recessions.
It’s like they want the repair man to fix their air conditioning but won’t let him get to work because they’re afraid he’ll move into the guest room.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:59 pmDarryl,
Adam Smith lived in, to put it lightly, different times. He never saw the Industrial Revolution and the advent of mass production on a scale unseen before. He never saw instant world-wide communications. How could his theories have any practical application today?
Please, try to live in the 21st century.
October 24th, 2009 at 10:59 pm#
Jane E. Schneider says:
“The American people are angry at your party for lack of productivity.”
WTF? Darryl, I hope for your child’s sake that you will soon start using your brain and your eyes for a change. You’re definitely not living in the real world.
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Oh it’s true. They are upset at the democratic Congress and president for lack of productivity and using mere words to inform the public that everything is alright. What happened to the stimulus? Where are the 500,000 jobs that were supposed to be created within 6 months.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:00 pmDaryll, I’ve never understood why you hate gay people so much.
Have you never seen a man you thought was even a little attractive? Honestly?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:00 pmHeh,
Sorry about the “but f ucking” in #272. I meant “by f ucking,” but I was responding to Daryll, so y’all will understand the Freudian slip.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:01 pmworship and adore God,
I suggest you check my posting at 59 and then explain just who perpetuated the wrongful action with respect to illegal imigration!
I am still waiting; I would like you to explain how corporate greed can be laid at the feet of the immigrants?
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Zooey, I laughed but I got your point.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:03 pmThanks, Fred. I knew you’d understand. ;)
October 24th, 2009 at 11:04 pm#
flight says:
worship and adore God,
I suggest you check my posting at 59 and then explain just who perpetuated the wrongful action with respect to illegal imigration!
I am still waiting; I would like you to explain how corporate greed can be laid at the feet of the immigrants?
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The problem lies on both sides. Why hasn’t congress created legislation to outlaw the hiring of illegal immigrants. Why are our borders still open? Why won’t congress send more money for border protection?…….
October 24th, 2009 at 11:04 pmHow about 276 Daryll?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:05 pmworship and adore God says
I suggest you worship and adore this living planet earth and all it’s living inhabitants.
that’s the miracle right there – and if you miss this fact, i’m afraid there’s no refunds.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:06 pm#
Fred says:
Daryll, I’ve never understood why you hate gay people so much.
Have you never seen a man you thought was even a little attractive? Honestly?
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Jesus told me that I am only allowed to marry a woman. I can only have a son/daughter with a person of the opposite sex. But answer my why questions!
October 24th, 2009 at 11:06 pmUm, we already have laws on the books saying it’s illegal for employers to hire undocumented workers.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:06 pm#
Fred says:
Daryll, I’ve never understood why you hate gay people so much.
Have you never seen a man you thought was even a little attractive? Honestly?
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Are you libs afraid to answer the why questions?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:07 pmZooey says:
Um, we already have laws on the books saying it’s illegal for employers to hire undocumented workers.
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So why want your president and the appointed secretaries allow this law to be enforced. Why is Sheriff Arpaio being targeted.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:08 pmworship and adore God # 282
October 24th, 2009 at 11:09 pmI am sorry, you didn’t answer my question. Why are the illegal immigrants being held accountable for corporate greed.
Daryll, I understand what Jesus told you but everyone has sin, you surely are no different.
There must have been a man at some point in your life that you thought was attractive, even in passing as you never intended to act on it.
Can you be honest?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:10 pmIt’s okay, Zooey. Funny how they can quote “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s…” but somehow don’t think that means they have to pay their taxes. And taxes are what make this great liberal society in which we all (liberals and conservatives) live and prosper possible. Some of them live under the delusion that they are “self-made (people)”. Yet their prosperity was possible precisely because of the policies and beliefs of the liberal nation we call America. We believe in doing what is in the collective good of all of us (when we aren’t kowtowing to what Corporate America wants), and that means Social Security, Medicare, public education, interstate highways, and clean air and water. Conservatives have fought against every one of those things. How they can claim this is a center-right nation baffles me. We would not have all of things if we had always been a center-right nation. We probably wouldn’t have any of them, come to think of it.
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Rethuglican obstructionists have everything to do with that- nutball
October 24th, 2009 at 11:10 pmHelloooooo!
Is this the place that ordered the lions?
Do me a favor and skin the jacka$s before you feed them.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:11 pmNope less government (Read Adam Smith’s “The invisible hand”). Government should properly regulate or conduct oversight on important industries.
That is not less government. More regulation in your circles is not just more government, it’s dubbed a “government takeover.” Pretty pathetic I have to explain to you your own platitudes.
But a proper explanation wouldn’t fit on a teabagger sign, so no big deal.
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What project do you know of that doesnt require labor?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:13 pmworship and adore God says:
So why want your president and the appointed secretaries allow this law to be enforced. Why is Sheriff Arpaio being targeted.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
“want?” I’m going to guess that you mean “won’t,” Daryll.
I’m typing very slowly now, so you’ll understand. The Department of Justice and all the law enforcement system under that are responsible for prosecuting such violations, not the Executive Branch. Unfortunately, President Obama has been very, very busy cleaning up the horrific mess left by the previous occupant of that office, and hasn’t had time to replace the previous president’s partisan goofball prosecuting attorneys. He’ll get to it, rest assured.
As for Sheriff Arpaio, he just your average, run of the mill sick f uck racist sadist, who’s been given too much power and too much time in the spotlight. He targets himself.
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Too much Government is bad for America. Look at the public option in Maine ( a foundation for national public option).
You are not making arguments, you are reciting talking points and platitudes. Do you have an intelligent refutation to what I said?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:16 pmUm, Daryll… there is no such thing as a filibuster in the House.
Might want to brush up on your elementary civics one more time, mmkay?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:17 pmWhat happened to the stimulus. Why are the funds going to projects that do not stimulate the economy? Why is big pharma and health insurance companies having closed door meetings with the president and congressional officials? Why has Goldman Sachs taken over the Federal Reserve?………
You could have avoided the far-right vote in the first place.
If you don’t like grappling with solutions don’t go looking for problems. If you’re looking for a fight, you’re going to find it.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:17 pmTake a look at “Badger Care” in Wisconsin
October 24th, 2009 at 11:17 pmWorks very good here
worship and adore God says:
Look at the public option in Maine ( a foundation for national public option).
October 24th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
M-A-S-S-A-C-H-U-S-E-T-T-S
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Zooey says:
worship and adore God says:
Look at the public option in Maine ( a foundation for national public option).
October 24th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
M-A-S-S-A-C-H-U-S-E-T-T-S
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NO! MAINE!
Daryll, the problem is money and its corrupted DC.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:19 pmWas that before or after he told you it was cool to go ahead and call the candidate “President-elect Huckabee“?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:19 pmworship and adore God says:
Too much Government is bad for America.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
It takes a lot of government to legislate morality, Daryll.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:20 pmG’nite all, church is early tomorrow. Worship fellow: Jesus does not want you to drop anthrax, or any WMD on anyone. I also sincerely believe He wants you to resist the temptations of Puerto Plata and tend to your beloved infant.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:20 pmMaybe you should type even more slowly, Daryll.
Answer this: under which branch of government does the Justice Department fall?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:21 pmworship and adore God says:
#
Zooey says:
worship and adore God says:
Look at the public option in Maine ( a foundation for national public option).
October 24th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
M-A-S-S-A-C-H-U-S-E-T-T-S
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NO! MAINE!
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Its called Maine Dirigo. It is a model for the national public option. It is bankrupt and has ultimately failed after 5 years.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:21 pmDaryll, since you won’t discuss your possible latent homosexual tendencies I must assume that it is the root of many of your problems.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:21 pmworship and adore God says:
NO! MAINE!
October 24th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Why do you hate Maine, Daryll?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:21 pmNO THEY DON’T. YOUR PARTY IS IN CHARGE. YOU HAVE ENOUGH OFFICIALS TO BE FILIBUSTER PROOF IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE. THIS IS THE REASON WHY AMERICA IS MAD. YOU CONTINUE TO BLAME THE REPUBLICANS WHEN YOU HOLD MAJORITY SEATS IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE.
First of all, Darryl, there is no need to shout.
Second, try to educate yourself about how our government works, especially if you want to complain about it on a political blog. There is no such thing as a filibuster in the House of Representatives.
Third, were you aware of the fact that Senate Republicans have been holding up many of Obama’s appointments for no good reason?
I would have more respect for you if you even remotely sounded like you knew what you were talking about. But since US Government is not covered in whichever version of the Bible you personally feel is more correct than the others, your ignorance about it is understandable, but not excusable.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:22 pmworship and adore God,
October 24th, 2009 at 11:23 pmWhy is it so easy for a conservative to dismiss cooperate greed.
You are ready to round up all the illegals and punish them to the fullest extent of the law.
Do you see something wrong with this picture.
God told me Sheriff Arpaio is a racist and a sadist.
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Buyble thumper,
What figure do you have regarding the number of illegal immigrants in the USA?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:25 pmBecause to a conservative, corporate greed is a fundamental element of nature, as necessary as gravity.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:26 pmThe only thing we need is oversight to prevent monopolies and corporate wrongdoing. THAT IS IT!
The thing is, you all have your idea of what government should be and “that is it!” The teabaggers want their social security and no public option and “that is it!” The AEI hawks want taxpayer money flowing endlessly to Halliburton and “that is it!” Darryl wants government contracts for his employer and “that is it!” They want a limited government after they get what they want.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:26 pmworship and adore God says:
It was probably a satanic spirit.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
It was God!! How dare you deny God?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:26 pmHe believes in following state and federal laws.
We all have to foloow state and federal laws, Darryl. But the sheriff’s job is to enforce state laws, not federal laws, unless the federal government asks him to. Because of the way he does it, and the frequency with which he uses federal laws as an excuse to harass people, they have asked him not to any more.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:27 pmMaybe the same “satanic spirit” that told you that Mike Huckabee would be the next President?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:27 pmjohnny dol1ar says:
Buyble thumper,
What figure do you have regarding the number of illegal immigrants in the USA?
Between 12-20 million.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:27 pmI wonder if Daryll starts every conversation with, “Are you saved?”
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Ok Daryll, so, your relunctance to discuss this with me, even as nice as I’ve been with you tells me that this is a deeper problem than you would be comfortable with.
Were you molested by an uncle or something when you were a kid and you enjoyed it a little and the guilt is eating you up?
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Per the Constitution and state law, he has every right to arrest an individual that has illegally entered this sovereign nation.
Where is that in the Constitution? Please, copy and paste the exact words from the Constitution that you are referring to here.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:31 pm327. Buyble thumper
“Between 12-20 million” illegal immigrants in the USA.
OK.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:31 pmWhat do you suggest to do to them?
I wonder why Daryll isn’t on the atheism thread instead of this one? Which is he more obsessed with, his god or illegal immigration?
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I believe in God. God created Adam for Eve, not Adam for Steve or Eve for Evette.
Really? Is that how you understand it? Because I always thought the story was that God created Eve for Adam, not the other way around. Are you saying that you believe God wants you here to please your wife, and not that he wants your wife here to please you?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:34 pmI gotta say, even though i joined this conversation late, in the short time I’ve been following the thread Daryll has really distinguished himself as a completely uninformed political bimbo.
No federal laws against hiring illegals?
A filibuster-proof majority in the House?
The DoJ not part of the Executive branch?
C’mon, Daryll.. pick up your game a little, dude. You’re embarrassing the “Truth of God” church that you link to.
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“Haliburton and my firm is pivotal to your defense. Do you want to be protected?”
Not by those greedy sick fu(ks who answer to Darth Cheney.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:36 pmJane, it’s pretty clear that Daryll is MOST obsessed with homosexuality. In the absence of a thread on that subject, I suppose illegals are easier for him to hate than atheists.
Or maybe they’re just less intimidating.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:37 pmRemember operation wetback? We can bus them, fly them, even ship them back to their country of origin. This is much cheaper than allowing them to use our social services, depress wages, and invest money into their home countries instead of America (money transfer).
Where did you say this offensively named program came from?
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Well, Daryll, it’s a fact that people that can’t deal with homosexuality on an emotional level are victims of some kind of mental confusion.
For you to hate homosexuals so badly reveals deep feelings that have to be caused by something.
It could be that you have some latent homosexual tendencies or you might have had a traumatic experience when you were very young and not even remember it.
A normal healthy adult man should be able to address this issue without turning it into the other persons problem.
I can’t imagine any man on the planet that hasn’t met some other man in his lifetime that had qualities that drew him to that person.
Just the fact that you can’t even discuss that reveals some problems that you are not being honest about.
Why dodge the question this time with a bible quote.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:39 pmSo when you get sick, that is the satanic spirit having power over you?
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Haliburton and my firm is pivotal to your defense. Do you want to be protected?
Nice try, and a common misperception. It’s what the contractor lobbying arm does to protect their government bennies: they hide behind the bravery of our young men and women on the frontlines to keep up their well-funded stateside paper-pushing operation. You essentially force the government to do business with you because you can’t elicit any business on the free market.
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Why spend money on protecting those we dont give a crap about their health? Why spend money on some defensive stuff, trillions, that didnt even work on 911?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:43 pmOccurred in 1954 under Eisenhower’s presidency.
And that was really the official name? I find that hard to believe.
And 1954 was before either my wife or I was born, so we wouldn’t remember it.
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339 buyble thumper
On that subject of the “money transfer,” why are you going to the Dominican Republic?
Wouldn’t it be more patriotic to spend your money, oh, I don’t know… Disneyland?
I’m not telling you how to spend YOUR money, money YOU WORKED FOR AND EARNED.
But you certainly are entitled to tell other people what to do with THEIR money.
Is that how it works?
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Occurred in 1954 under Eisenhower’s presidency.
How convenient, mentioning the man who made it a point to exit office warning against the type of activity you partake, the military-industrial complex.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:45 pmEngineering and technology are important to the future of the military and national defense.
So it’s important to the future of the military that we hire contractors who build shower units that electrocute the troops?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:45 pmSo daryll, you do have fantasies about men. You just admitted it.
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Yes that was the name. The term wetback derived from this operation. Which philosophy courses did you complete in college?
Why would that piece of knowledge be taught in a Philosophy class, as opposed to an English class?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:47 pmEngineering and technology are important to the future of the military and national defense.
Where’s Osama?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:48 pmEngineering and technology are important to the future of the military and national defense.
Star Wars is not relevant “engineering and technology.” The government has no business paying you to play video games. Get over your delusions.
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No. 1, Darryl, you said:
“Why hasn’t congress created legislation to outlaw the hiring of illegal immigrants.”
This strongly implies that such laws are needed and do not currently exist.
No. 2 , a “filibuster-proof majority” in the House is an absurdity since filibusters are not part of the workings of the House, only the Senate.
No. 3, you said:
“The Department of Justice and all the law enforcement system under that are responsible for prosecuting such violations, not the Executive Branch.”
(emphasis mine)
This strongly implies that the DoJ is NOT part of the Executive branch.
Daryll, have you been drinking? Or are you really this uninformed?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:48 pmWhy spend trillions on defense stuff, things that kill, when we have a bunch of illegal immigrants? Huh Daryll? Why are we in Iraq, because we care more about some foreigners well being over those 45 million, here, in America, we dont?
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Okay, I did my own research, and it turns out there really was an offical operation called “Operation Wetback.” It was in later years that this term came to be taken as a derogatory one. However, contrary to what at least one person believes, the term most definitely did not “originate” with the naming of this program. The term was in use for several years before that.
But I still don’t understand why this would be taught in a Philosophy class. At least, not as part of the curriculum. maybe a teacher might have said something about it in passing.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:51 pmAww, daryll, you just couldn’t keep it together could you?
I guess remembering which lie you told to who is getting harder to do as you get older eh?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:52 pmUm, Daryll, the term did not originate with the federal government. You are a fool for believing so.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:52 pmWhen was Jesus for empire and things created to kill?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:52 pm357 Buyble thumper
I see you conveniently skipped the part about telling someone else how to spend their money. What you call “money transfer”
That was the point.
By the way, who suggested you visit the Dominican Republic, a known sex trade destination, Rush did?
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Daryll once had it together? And I missed it?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:53 pmYou mean the same Halliburton that moved it’s headquarters to Dubai?
Now there’s ‘merikan fer ya
October 24th, 2009 at 11:54 pmYou didn’t answer my question. Is it important to the future of our military that we hire contractors who build shower units that electrocute the troops?
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You know, Daryll, putting nonsensical phrases like “college academia” behind false statements does nothing to enhance their credibility.
History is not “categorized under philosophy” in any institution with which I’m familiar. Perhaps Regent University or Bob Jones University categorize it that way, but no real academic institution does.
Now, science used to be called “natural philosophy”. Maybe that’s what you’re thinking of.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:56 pmHistory is considered Philosophy? That’s news to me. I thought Philosophy involved questions about existence, not a review of historical facts.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:56 pmworship and adore God says:
He is in the White House.
The Western White House, you stupid f uck.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:56 pmWayne, I’ve noticed a pattern. Daryll won’t answer questions unless he offers platitudes.
He’s basically dishonest as Ralph suggests….even points out.
He want’s to be taken seriously but he doesn’t want to be serious.
He’s basically any 14 year old you ever met.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:57 pmYou know what Im starting to think Daryll, you are conflicted. Jesus says dont kill but your making good money helping create something your faith doesnt follow.
Thats tough to justify.
MY POV: Judging others souls, sticking a sockpuppet on them, so you can feel superior, maybe better about what you work doing. The Devil is another feel good device. That person has the devil in them. So easy to believe ones own BS.
October 24th, 2009 at 11:57 pm375 Buyble thumper
I voted you up because that was actually funny.
ROFLMAO!
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Engineers and electricians aren’t perfect. Things happen. This problem has been rectified.
Tell that to the families of the troops killed by the incompetence of the criminals who built the showers. And what evidence do you have that the problem has been recitifed? And as for “things happen”, the problem was identified and reported and even then, still more soldiers got electrocuted. This was shoddy, incompetent work, and the result was the death of about a dozen of our soldiers. And you are defending that?
October 24th, 2009 at 11:59 pmEngineers and electricians aren’t perfect. Things happen. This problem has been rectified.
In 9000 buildings?
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Engineers and electricians aren’t perfect. Things happen. This problem has been rectified.
Rectified (ahem) the same way a rape case goes to arbitration?
October 25th, 2009 at 12:00 amXisithrus says:
Engineers and electricians aren’t perfect. Things happen. This problem has been rectified.
In 9000 buildings?
Proof that the problem occurred in 9000 buildings, please?
October 25th, 2009 at 12:01 amIt was used officially by the US government in 1954, with Operation Wetback (your Wilkipedia source). Reading is fundamental.
You claimed that the term originated with this program, and then made a remark about my education.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:01 amI get it daryll, you protect them to death.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:02 amWe do not kill. We protect.
By killing. Right?
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willful ignorance is stubborn.
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Missle defense, mapping, wargaming programs, security programs, logistics, etc.
Yes, because the services don’t have major commands and agencies with both uniformed and civil personnel devoted to those causes. They need Darryl’s propped-up private firm in all its cheap duplication to equip, train, recruit and deploy out troops.
Riiiiiight.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:05 amYes. I imagine you have to say that to yourself, not me, alot.
You seem to ‘protect’ others by praying for their souls, that you judged, somehow, inadequate, to give rational to your anger and your hate at whatever it is in your life, that you created, that torments you.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:06 am386 Buyble thumper
in Jesus name, of course.
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They hired alot of foreign labor [privatization] that didnt do stuff like we do here. You know those pesky government regulations? And they have worked/wired on some 9000 buildings.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:10 amFrom the ever-popular Wiki
“History” is definitely not “Philosophy”. If they are offered by the same department, it’s probably because both are studies of the Humanities.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:11 am“When was Jesus for empire and things created to kill?”
When the C Street gang declared it so.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:11 amI wasn’t disputing that. I was disputing your contention that “The term wetback derived from this operation.”
Now, either you don’t know what the word “derived” means or you were just flat wrong.
What is it?
October 25th, 2009 at 12:11 amIm not going to lose anything.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:12 amHow about you provide one for us?
October 25th, 2009 at 12:12 amSo C stands for ‘cross’!
October 25th, 2009 at 12:13 amWTF does that mean?
You are one loopy dude, Daryll.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:14 amWayne A. Schneider @ 384,
October 25th, 2009 at 12:15 amThings like this don’t happen. In the instances in Iraq, what happen is known as criminal neglect. There is a correct method in installing electrical devices safely. The work done in Iraq was performed by incompetent contractors who were paid minimum. This had been known for some, but the responsible agencies did nothing. The bottom line of maximum profits had every thing to do with these electrocutions. Halibertin conduct in Iraq was disgusting. Why do you think they moved off shore.
Well, folks, I think Daryll has taken his share of abuse, so I’m going to call it a night.
yeah, yeah, I know he will continue to invite more abuse, but I’m confident you guys can accommodate his demands.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:17 amDarryl, your government bennies are going byebye and your hopes for 2010 or 2012 don’t mean squat. You aren’t a measure of anything good because you are inherently bad. You have the continuance of suffering in mind to keep padded your personal bank account. There’s nothing objective about your assessments because you have a horrific history.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:19 amYou sure are a glutton for punishment Daryll.
Does your wife kick your ass too?
October 25th, 2009 at 12:22 amBuyble thumper
Regarding your little trip to Puerto Plata, do you have the V prescription on your name or are you going to buy local?
You know, “money transfer”
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Before I go, Darryl, I’d like to know the official title of the defense firm of which you are employed. Since the firm depends on public funds you’ll feel a sense of duty to disclose the firm’s title with ease.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:30 am412 Buyble thumper
Yes, I know.
Several gay men have hit on me before, but I am not interested.
Anyway, do you have the via gra prescription on your name or are you going to put it in Jesus name too?
October 25th, 2009 at 12:34 amworship and adore God,
I am pissed. You owe me an explanation.
Why is corporate greed so easy for you to dismiss?
Why is the plight of millions of immigrants so easy for you to dismiss?
These are two very simple questions and I haven’t been given an answer.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:34 amWhere is your humanity, just skip your designer religion, OK!!!@!
Jesus loves your, and I do , too!
You love my what, Darryl?
Dirty SOB.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:36 amAnswer, Darryl?
October 25th, 2009 at 12:39 am417 What the GOP REALLY means
I’m sorry. You two were not meant for each other.
Buyble thumper just told me he and the Mexican guy Jesus are in love with me.
Deal with it.
October 25th, 2009 at 12:47 amflight says:
The bottom line of maximum profits had every thing to do with these electrocutions.
But weren’t these “cost plus” contracts? Wouldn’t they have been guaranteed a profit no matter how much it cost? And if I understand the terms of those contracts correctly, they get a certain percentage profit minimum guaranteed. Wouldn’t that mean that if the job cost more, the guaranteed percent profit would be larger? Which would mean that the more the job cost, the more they would get paid, and the more profit they would make overall (in raw dollars, not percentage)?
If I am correct about all of that, and if it applied to the contract to build the showers for our troops, then what motivation would they have to cut corners? They could spend the most money for the best parts necessary, and work all the overtime they want double- and triple-checking their work, and it would only mean more money for them, wouldn’t it?
I must be missing something. Or is it that they just don’t really care?
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Darryl, I was raised by devout Catholic parents and had 13 years of devout Catholic schooling. I knew many people, including many of the nuns who taught me, who seemed to truly exemplify the teachings of Christ.
They would not recognize you as a fellow Christian.
October 25th, 2009 at 1:04 am“Jesus loves your, and I do , too!
You love my what, Darryl?
Dirty SOB.”
I love funny typos, don’t you? :D
October 25th, 2009 at 1:06 amThat’s, um, lovely, WtGRm. I’ve got the night off, too, but even I can find more productive uses of my time.
But I do agree that it sums up the Philosophy of your party (though History would show this has not always been the case.)
October 25th, 2009 at 1:06 amworship and adore God,
1.) Your religious training appears to be lacking.
Look at your name. Might I suggest “worship and adore god”
You assume way too much using God’s name in that fashion.
That name is reserved for reference to only one Being!
2.) Spend some exploring the subject matter. The FOX talking
points just don’t cut it.
3.) Determine the difference between historic fact and
revisionist fantasy. You really look stupid when you
can’t determine the difference.
give it some thought, flight
October 25th, 2009 at 1:06 amSorry I disappeared, y’all. I had a date with God.
Oh lordy, I totally received him into my life. Woo!
October 25th, 2009 at 1:10 amWicked, wicked Zoot, er, Zooey!
October 25th, 2009 at 1:13 amZooey, I’ve noticed I have that effect on women.
I start talking to them, and they want to go join a nunnery. ;)
October 25th, 2009 at 1:15 amI just can’t help myself around God. :-D
Hey Wayne, I’d join Zoot’s nunnery!
October 25th, 2009 at 1:20 amZooey’s just begging for a spanking from Darryl.
And on that note, I’m out of here. Goodnight, all.
October 25th, 2009 at 1:23 amWayne A. Schneider # 419,
October 25th, 2009 at 1:24 amI assume they just didn’t care but I really don’t know.
I watched some of the hearings a while back’ and profit is my recollection. American electrical safety standards were not adhered to and workmanship was low quality. The electricians were from third world countries which have a high incidence of electrocutions.
Jane E. Schneider @ 421
October 25th, 2009 at 1:29 amMy experience also!
Jane,
I think Daryll will have to punish himself for thinking about that too long. ;)
Goodnight, all.
October 25th, 2009 at 1:30 am@ 419. Wayne A. Schneider says: “flight says: The bottom line of maximum profits had every thing to do with these electrocutions.” But weren’t these “cost plus” contracts? Wouldn’t they have been guaranteed a profit no matter how much it cost? … I must be missing something. Or is it that they just don’t really care? October 25th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Wayne, Flight,
They’re not necessarily cost-plus contracts, but even if they are, there’s a premium award for finishing earlier than contract due date and under budget. And the issue isn’t material, it’s workmanship.
The contractors are probably hiring electricians who can’t really work to code because they haven’t been properly trained, and the QA inspectors aren’t necessarily qualified. I think KBR and the other contract operators have a lot of third country nationals working under US and European foremen/supervisors. There are some US electricians, and maybe a few Europeans at the work sites, all of whom should be well versed in code, but maybe aren’t, who are perhaps not much better than mid-level apprentices, who’ve signed on because of the hazard money. There are also very probably a lot of electricians from third world countries who have signed on for better money than they get in the Gulf states. The latter may be perfectly good industial electricians but have no experience with residential code and code applicable to hookups in bathrooms and wet areas.
The foremen and inspectors are getting bonuses on jobs signed off. They’re pushing their teams, whether the individual electricians are US or third country, to go as rapidly as possible. Once a wiring team finishes, there’s no incentive to go back and correct anything but the most glaring errors; there are probably ground fault miswires all over the place and we’re lucky more people haven’t been electrocuted.
That’s my best guess, regarding the work crews, but I am reasonably sure that the contracts have a lot of incentives for timeliness, etc.
October 25th, 2009 at 1:39 am@ 412. worship and adore God says: Jesus loves your, … October 25th, 2009 at 12:25 am
The correct expression is;
Jesus loves you, but will he respect you in the morning?
October 25th, 2009 at 1:47 am#163 worship and adore God,
Sorry for the delay. Went out for the night for some good music. The symphony played like Angels. What a delight.
Oops, I got off track there…
Of course it’s not blasphemy when Xtians hoist themselves up on Christ’s cross, is it?
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October 25th, 2009 at 1:53 am@ 430. flight …
Ya beat me to it…
I was hammering out my comment at #433 when you got yours at #430 up.
That’s about it though; a bunch of people who can’t get it right the first time, playing ‘beat the clock’, with no time to go back and make corrections (they don’t get paid for that).
October 25th, 2009 at 1:59 am@ 342. Wayne A. Schneider says: Remember operation wetback? … Where did you say this offensively named program came from? October 24th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
I remember hearing about it as a kid in ‘54, ‘55, but then again, I’m in NM and was then, so it’s not exactly a surprise to have it pop up. Ya never know what a troll will come up with. Wikipedia has a write-up on it which looks about right;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback
While the term ‘wetback’ is offensive now, and was a slur even then, it was in fairly common use among Anglos, and even among the Hispanic-Americans whose families were here when the Anglos arrived. There seems to be a class, a group, in the local Hispanic population that really considers Spain to be their country of origin, the source of their cultural heritage, not Mexico. That period from Mexico’s independence in 1821 to the US invasion in 1846, didn’t produce a really strong allegiance to Mexico, even though a lot of territorial families had familial ties to people in Mexico.
Anyway, while ‘wetback’ is considered declasse, in the ’50s there wasn’t quite as much emphasis on political correctness, so the usage was quite widespread, and had been from it’s inception.
October 25th, 2009 at 2:29 amI just stopped reading at post 123 – will return there after I post this.
My great, great grandparents were undocumented immigrants from Norway and arrived here in 1865. They arrived via Port Hudson, the Great Lakes and the Mississippi River. They could not speak English and my great, great grandfather’s diary was written in Norwegian. We all come from immigrants – except for our Native brothers and sisters. We are a melting pot and that is one thing that makes this country special.
People must hold on to their stories and cultural traditions; it is what makes life rich.
October 25th, 2009 at 2:36 amOops – should have said “Hudson Bay” – got side-tracked from my own home town’s “Point Hudson”. Anyway…you get the drift.
October 25th, 2009 at 3:16 amAfter I read through the comments I was somewhat astounded as to how the religious freak hijacked this thread. The great, great grandfather I spoke about above was a “bastard” and much of his diary proclaims so much “glory to god” which I believe is directly related to what he may have felt about his own “illegitimacy”. I believe the dominating religious freak tonight may have similar issues.
Although I was raised Xtian – I know that traditionally the Scandinavians don’t buy this shite – to me, the whole church thing always appeared to be about creating and maintaining community. And that is good.
I am not xtian – and never will be – and that is an informed choice. I don’t like what xtians have done throughout history and I don’t like how they behave today. I’m pretty sure that if Jesus was around, he would not join a xtian church – and they would likely reject him. Go figure…
One of the earlier posters — shoot, way up there, talked about her xtian faith being one of balance. And that may be for her — but the concept of balance has been around a lot longer than judaism, christianity or islam. In fact the big three are quite heirarchical (sp?). There is no balance there. The balance for which you seek is ancient and inclusive and respectful of all of life, including our Earth.
Ahem…anyway folks…life is good.
October 25th, 2009 at 3:59 amIf Lou Dobbs feels so strongly about honoring cultural and political boundries,
October 25th, 2009 at 4:02 ammaybe he can convince the bush family and their Scull and Bones secret society
to return Geronimo’s skull to the people of the Apache Nation.
My ancestors all immigrated here well before the Revolutionary War.
October 25th, 2009 at 4:59 amShip captain traders, farmers, merchants, and adventurers willing to endenture themselves for passage to a new world.
Most of these Europeans became Western frontiersmen,
and some married native Americans.
Mexicans are also native Americans, mixed with the European ancestory of Spanish explorers and settlers.
Lou Dobb’s is a colonial elitist, in the British tradition.
He attempts to maintain his own ethnic sovereignty with a geographic political boundry that keeps the doors wide open, going south,
but passage to the North, locked and barred.
We should avoid CNN. CNN is enemy propaganda, like all of the corporate media.
In a just world, the execs and many reporters of the corporate media would be in jail,. for inciting the populace to violence in the lead-up to the Iraq War.
October 25th, 2009 at 6:58 amIt bugs the crap out of me that the pompous and delusional Daryll is being paid with our tax dollars. He comes in here claiming to “love” everyone and then spews hate.
And I agree Pete, poor little Sarah. She’ll be indoctrinated before she knows what hit her. But soon enough she’ll try to exert her independence, only to have her father do his best to mess her up and threaten her with eternal damnation if she doesn’t comply with his worldview and submit to his domination.
So, Daryll, how was church today? Did your pastor urge you to love all of god’s creations? Or just the legal American ones?
October 25th, 2009 at 11:14 amThis slobb, “Lewd” Dobbs can take the Censored News Network down with him as far as this former viewer is concerned. Is his racsist stance on issues reflective of Ted Turner?
October 25th, 2009 at 12:37 pmI have had CNN cancelled from my cable subscription and informed CNN that until Dobbs’ is reined in I will continue to boycott them.
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I have had CNN cancelled from my cable subscription and informed CNN that until Dobbs’ is reined in I will continue to boycott them.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:18 amI don’t get CNN, really estetik. They’ve been, and still are, one of the Official Obama Cheerleading squads estetik burun ameliyati and yet they do keep Dobbs, not exactly an Obama fan on their network gögüs büyütme. Are they trying to “fake” that they have some balance estetik gögüs ameliyatlari? Their regular programming is so bias and slanted but gögüs küçültme, oh it’s okay ‘cuz we have Dobbs vajina daraltma? P.S. mcnorman, any idea what has happened to DE’s blog lazer epilasyon fiyatlari? I know the other day he posted an apology for not posting much b/c he had a lot of work to do karin germe ameliyatlari. And the blog isn’t deleted, like shhh’s, it’s become private plastik cerrahi. Maybe a WP glitch karin estetigi? We are all worried about DE, but I have a feeling that he may have gotten some type of worm saç nakli. It only makes sense that if it was a computer worm he would back up gögüs büyütme what he could and not turn the machine on without some tech help gögüs diklestirme. Maybe his machine is in the shop? I am hoping that this is what has happened gögüs küçültme. I don’t think he would close down the blog without a forewarning vajina daraltma ameliyati. I think you hit it on the nail. Dobbs is their “safe” call for balanced news gögüs estetigi. Hacks.
October 30th, 2009 at 11:05 am