Lieberman Says He’ll Filibuster Health Care Reform If Public Option Remains
Lieberman Says He’ll Filibuster Health Care Reform If Public Option Remains
Earlier this month, when blogger-activist Mike Stark asked Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) if his opposition to the public option meant that he would filibuster a health care reform bill that included one, Lieberman was non-committal, saying “we’ll see” while also warning that there’s a “danger in doing too much.”
In remarks to reporters today, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) moved closer to siding with Republicans and actively blocking reform. Lieberman gave a wishy-washy response, stating that while he was “inclined” to vote to allow health care reform legislation to be debated on the Senate floor, he would “vote against cloture” if “the bill stays as it is now.” TPMDC has Lieberman’s comments:
“I told Senator Reid that I’m strongly inclined — I haven’t totally decided, but I’m strongly inclined — to vote to proceed to the health care debate, even though I don’t support the bill that he’s bringing together because it’s important that we start the debate on health care reform because I want to vote for health care reform this year. But I also told him that if the bill remains what it is now, I will not be able to support a cloture motion before final passage. Therefore I will try to stop the passage of the bill.”
Lieberman claims that he wants to “vote for health care reform this year” and that the public option is a sticking point for him. But he also opposed the Baucus bill, which did not contain a public option. Last week, he told NPR, “If I decide in the end the bill that is about to leave the Senate is gonna do more harm than good, then I won’t vote for cloture at that point.”
ThinkProgress previously produced a report titled “Joe Lieberman: The Progressive Who Lost His Way.” View it here.
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And LIEberman will continue to wonder why he was booted from the Democratic Party ………..
October 27th, 2009 at 2:10 pmScrew subtlety. If Liberman supports the filibuster, come down on him like the Hammer of Johnson. Kick his ass out of the Caucus, force him to join the GOP. Scrap plans to pass the bill through a typical vote, ram it down with reconciliation.
Destroy him.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:11 pmIs anyone actually surprised by this?
October 27th, 2009 at 2:12 pmReid needs to force them into the chamber to debate then. They can filibuster all they like so long as they stand there and debate the bill.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:13 pmAlso, O/T, but…C’MON…
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/27/scalia-on-brown-v-board-o_n_335591.html
It speaks volumes that Brown v. Board of Education was unanimous…and this schmuck would have voted against it.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:13 pmWhat a completely worthless tool this “man” is. He enjoys government-run healthcare. We cannot.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:14 pmSurprised? NOT !!! I have always wondered how the dems thought they could count on 60 votes for ANYTHING when this POS has one of those votes.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:14 pmWhen i see his picture I think Liberace. Lieberace?
October 27th, 2009 at 2:15 pmI am in a strange mood today.
I frequently wondered over the past eight years about how different our country would be today if Al Gore’s 2000 victory had not been stolen out from under him.
. . . . . . . then, I remember that Smokin’ Joe would have been vice president. That really sets up a conflict for me. But, still, Smokin’ Joe would have been marginally better than Darth Cheney I suppose.
It is sad to see that Joey has become a pivotal player in this debate. What a sad legacy he is creating for himself here in his last term in office.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:15 pmAnyone who votes against cloture on this is a chickensh*t who is afraid to get their vote recorded, plain and simple.
Playing politics with American lives. It’s the Republican Way.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:16 pmThe GOP keeps threatening to filibuster, and the Democrats always cave.
If the GOP is so adamant about prevent Americans from having access to quality, affordable health care, then Reid should call their bluff, and make them filibuster. Let America see just who is for the people, and who is for the insurance and pharmaceutical companies.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:17 pmThat bastard needs to be removed from his Committee Chair right now!
I want to see the YouTube of him getting thrown out of the building on his ass by Security.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:17 pmLiberman is not an Independent in the Democratic caucus he is a spy.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:18 pmThis traitorous as$hole has got to go.
Why doesn’t LIEberman want heath care for the poor?
Oh, forgot they can’t donate to his coffers enough.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:18 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
bew heww,
won’t someone please pay attention to me??
sorry droopy – you don’t matter any more.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:20 pmWhat are all of these losers afraid of? If they want cover, they can vote against the bill on the merits — but at least let it come to a vote on the floor!
Oh wait, I know — they’re afraid that the bill might actually PASS, giving the majority of the American people what we want. Yeah, that can’t be good for us…
/snark
October 27th, 2009 at 2:21 pmCould we see the ultimate completion of a Specter for Lieberman trade very soon? Dems will surely not stand by Joe when he goes beyond even Olympia Snowe in opposition to this particular reform bill.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
October 27th, 2009 at 2:21 pmHe’s the only politician I find more annoying than Harry Reid.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:22 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
It’s time to call these jerkwads on their threats. Let Lieberman filibuster. And let his GOP buddies join him.
An actual filibuster will make news. All the media will cover this. And the Americans will see who is holding up the process.
Americans want health care reform. They want an affordable public option. They’re tired of greedheads getting all the money. And they will get fed up enough that they will let their Senators know it. If Lieberman can’t be swayed by his constituents, there may be at least one Republican Senator who can — especially one who’s up for re-election next year.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:22 pmHe would have been the savior.
— What is it with you people and saviors and messiahs and shit like that?
October 27th, 2009 at 2:22 pmkindness says: That bastard needs to be removed from his Committee Chair right now!
Sadly, kindness, that would require Harry Reid to actually have a spine — and he’s demonstrated time and again that he’s an invertebrate organism…
October 27th, 2009 at 2:22 pmORM:
October 27th, 2009 at 2:23 pmWanna explain your opposition?
Now is the time to start putting pressure on Reid to strip Lieberman once and for all of his chairmanship and exclude him from the caucus. Same with Ben Nelson and Kent Conrad if they don’t come around. Pampering time is over. Now it’s strictly Hardball. And not the Tweety kind, the REAL kind.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:23 pmSorry STORM.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:23 pmThank is the second time today that has happened…
“That”. WOW!
October 27th, 2009 at 2:24 pmIsrael has a government run health care system, courtesy of American taxpayers, but you never hear Lieberman complain about that.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:24 pmShe’s a Republican. Just say no.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:25 pmGiven that he represents one of the states with a large amount of insurance companies in it, what do you expect?
A vote for his constituents or a vote for the guys who pads his pockets???
The money always wins…. Sad indeed.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:26 pmAny member of Congress who votes against Health Reform and the Public Option needs to be voted out themselves and privatized!
October 27th, 2009 at 2:26 pmThey should’ve supported Lamont. I’m sick of these “Career Politicians” switching parties to keep their seat!!!
We’ve got the same thing happining here in PA with Specter. He must go! Please support Sestak!!!!
October 27th, 2009 at 2:27 pmstep 1: use reconciliation to pass health reform.
step 2: beat the ever lovin hell out of joe lieberman.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:27 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
What a perfect a$$hole Holy Joe is. He acts like the Republican senator he is (Lamont was the Democratic candidate).
Cheers,
October 27th, 2009 at 2:31 pmIsn’t Lieberman’s wife a health industry lobbyist? Seems like a huge conflict of interest. The upside is no one can ever say that joe is a progressive on domestic issues anymore…he’s simply a scumbag that is out for Joe. Too bad the voters of Ct. didn’t understand that there were 2 republicans who ran against Lamont in the GE.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:31 pmBe warned this is what Joe has wanted for years!
A chance to bore America to death.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:31 pm“Joe is doing the responsible thing here.”
(Responsible to his corporate overlords.)
October 27th, 2009 at 2:32 pmI guess the worm is about to turn it would seem…what a dick
October 27th, 2009 at 2:33 pmApparently Joe doesn’t want to be a Senator anymore.
Well, good riddance, you DINO.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:34 pmNOW will the Dems kick him out of their caucus…?
October 27th, 2009 at 2:36 pmStormy, why are you so afraid of competition? Isn’t that the American way? Quit living in fear, come out of the cave and join the real world.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:38 pmActually, STORM, doing nothing is the worst possible answer to our health care problems.
But go ahead and outline YOUR plan to fix things. You have 10 minutes, which should be sufficient time for you to type out a well-reasoned proposal. After all, the debate has been going on for well over 9 months now, so surely you’ve done more at this point than your Republican overlords have. We’ll be waiting for your certain-to-be-brilliant alternative to the current plan with baited breath. It better not suck.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:38 pmSPERM says:
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The public option is the worst possible answer to our health care cost. Joe is doing the responsible thing here.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
What’s the “best possible answer” , tool ?
Gee , I can’t wait for this unmitigated brilliance
October 27th, 2009 at 2:39 pmConnecticut progressives will not take kindly to this, and will help to “filibuster”
October 27th, 2009 at 2:39 pmthat jerk out of the Senate.
Storm, why is the public option the worst possible answer to rising health care costs? Please explain yourself.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:40 pmworkerbee says:
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Looks like TP is in full “diversion” mode. ;)
October 27th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Still doesn’t rival your full “dipshit” mode ……..
October 27th, 2009 at 2:41 pmWhat is to be done with him?
October 27th, 2009 at 2:41 pmIf he betrays the Democrats on filibuster, then he should be politically destroyed.
What leverage does anyone have against him? He is pigging out on power today. He will never be re-elected by Democrats and what real Republican would vote for him?
Who can twist his arm until he surrenders to Dems on the filibuster? Obama? Does Lieberman care what Obama says or does?
Traitor Joe is all for himself – what is his Achilles’ heel?
“Joe is doing the responsible thing here.”
(Responsible to his corporate overlords.)
TP wouldn’t be attacking him if he wasn’t!
(Responsible to the citizenry.)
October 27th, 2009 at 2:41 pmAnd we are suprised that LIEberman is a turncoat? I can’t believed he survived re-election. If the Dems were smart, the should strip him of everything. And i wonder what his constituents have to say about this latest development?
October 27th, 2009 at 2:42 pmpax says:
When i see his picture I think Liberace. Lieberace?
I am in a strange mood today.
Well, whenever I look at his picture, I think “stool softener”. And I’m in my normal mood today.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:42 pmI find it interesting, workerbee, that on an earlier thread you were b!tching about TP not paying attention to health care every minute of every day, and now they post a decidedly important health care issue, and you b!tch about that as well.
So, who is it that’s in diversion mode? Could it be…..you?
October 27th, 2009 at 2:43 pmworkerbee says:
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hellinabucket says:
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Stormy, why are you so afraid of competition?
Says the person that hates the fact that Fox News reports both sides of a story and kicks ass on all competition….yawn…..
October 27th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Yeah ……..If by “both sides” you mean the concocted and deliberately ignorant viewpoints …….
October 27th, 2009 at 2:43 pmDavid, he has no idea why he is against it, other than it was the Democrat’s idea, and Limbaugh told him it was bad.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:43 pmRunning out of time Stormy.
Where the hell’s my perfect health care proposal? You owe us a masterful piece of legislation, and you’ve only got about 5 minutes left. Better get on the ball.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:44 pm“Well, whenever I look at his picture, I think “stool softener”.”
Joe looks like he’s finally had a movement.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:44 pmLast week, he told NPR, “If I decide in the end the bill that is about to leave the Senate is gonna do more harm than good, then I won’t vote for cloture at that point.”
That’s not your decision to make, Sen Lieberman. That’s the president’s decision. If you want to caucus with the Democrats (as you promised the voters of your state), then you have to not stand in their way. Vote against passage of the bill if you want to remain a Congressional Prostitute for the insurance companies, but don’t you dare vote against cloture. You’ll find yourself kicked off several committees if you keep acting against the Democrats.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:46 pmworkerbee: Says the person that hates the fact that Fox News reports both sides of a story and kicks ass on all competition….yawn…..
If by both sides you mean the conservative and delusional sides, then you are indeed correct. And you usually would kick ass in ratings if you had a monopoly on conservative viewers.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:46 pmI can’t believe you all expect the troll to make an intelligent defense for his drivel.
Aren’t your expectations just a little high? The troll comes here to drop turds, and that’s it. Best to just vote him down so we don’t have to read them.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:47 pmLieberwocky WILL LOOSE his Senate seat based on this alone…WILL, not might.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:47 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Lieberman is doing this for spite, isn’t he? I’m sure his constituents want The Public Option. He lives in a Blue State for God’s sake. He has basically kicked dirt in the Dems faces. I have a felling good ole Joe is going to become more unpopular. And with good reason.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:50 pmWe all knew this day would come, when traitor Joe(I-Israel) would show his true colors. The real answer lies in the 2010 election. We need three more Dems and three fewer non-Dems.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:51 pmmissmolly, I didn’t expect it to defend itself.
I merely wanted to point out how pathetically incapable of defending itself it is.
It’s entertaining.
workerbee -
If you want to discuss Fox, go to the Fox thread. This thread is about Lieberman threatening to filibuster health care reform. Your posts have been flagged for being completely off-topic.
I can’t believe you had the balls to accuse anyone else of attempting a diversion, you hypocritical sack of garbage.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:51 pmYo! Conneciticuteans! Got recall?
October 27th, 2009 at 2:52 pmLIEbermann is nothing but a corporate whore.
And to think he was supposed to be VP after election 2000.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:52 pmThe Public Option WILL pass, as DEMANDED by a MAJORITY of Americans.
Also, it WILL lower the costs of health care, since people will have an alternative to the 30% PROFIT paper-pushers who do NOTHING at all in PROVIDING health care…
If it pisses off the rightwing nutjobs, you KNOW that it is
GOOD FOR AMERICA and REAL Americans.
Not the supporters of Bush and Cheney’s TREASON, of course…
October 27th, 2009 at 2:52 pmJoe Lieberman has never been a democrat. He did not support our new President. He ran as an independent only to get re-elected. He’s one of those leeches on the government. It’s ok for him to live off the government but God forbid anyone else try to simply buy an insurance policy they can afford! Throw his ass out once and for all. He is a worthless human being. When is he going to be on Glenn’s show?
October 27th, 2009 at 2:53 pmWorkerbee says: Using your “logic” msnbc would have a “monopoly” on liberal viewers since they pander to the left. How’s that working out for them?
No, because many democrats watch CNN, NBC, ABC, etc, not just MSNBC. Most liberals do watch MSNBC though, and they have a much higher number of the 21-35 demographic than Fox.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:53 pmThat’s what I thought, Stormy.
You’ve got nothing. You just want to b!tch, whine, and gripe, just like your Republican leaders. That’s why no one gives a damn what you, or them, think or say anymore. Get used to being in the minority, dude. It’ll be a long time before you or your kind see daylight again, if all you can bring to the table is obstruction.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:53 pmLieberman is another worthless lying traitorous pig.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:53 pmSo, to my shame, I watched Fox on my lunch break, you know who they had on to comment on the public option? Sen. Chuck Grassley, who’s one argument for blocking it is it would put the big insurance companies out of business. I don’t see a problem here, does anyone else?
October 27th, 2009 at 2:55 pmBoth sides of a story. That was funny workerbee.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:55 pmFox “news” is nothing but rightwing LIES and PROPAGANDA.
REAL Americans KNOW this.
Of course, not “storm” or “worker bee”.
God Bless America, President Obama and the WORLD!!
October 27th, 2009 at 2:55 pmworkerbee says:
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And you usually would kick ass in ratings if you had a monopoly on conservative viewers
Using your “logic” msnbc would have a “monopoly” on liberal viewers since they pander to the left. How’s that working out for them?
October 27th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
What section of the “left” are Joe Stupidborough , Andrea Mitchell , Chuck Todd , Norah O’Donnell , Chris Matthews , Kelly O’Donnell , Alex Witt , etc , a part of , GOP stooge ?
October 27th, 2009 at 2:56 pmJoe, your a fu**en idiot!!!! Strip his chair!!!!
And on a different note….all three McDonald’s in Iceland will be closing this week. The weak Icelandic currency is in a tailspin. A big mac in Iceland is about $5.60US.
So how many McDonalds will close within the next year in the US????
Any bets???? Predictions on when the US dollar will fall??? anyone????
October 27th, 2009 at 2:56 pmBoth sides, is that like both kinds of music. Country and western?
October 27th, 2009 at 2:57 pmUSNclerk says: Sen. Chuck Grassley, who’s one argument for blocking it is it would put the big insurance companies out of business. I don’t see a problem here, does anyone else?
Nope.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:58 pmAnd they may be right.
As the public plan provides quality care with a fraction of the overhead, the only way the for profits will compete is by being more and more restrictive in their claims policies, driving people away in droves, to the public plan.
No problem.
For profit health care sucks.
Right-wing zombies like workerbee are all so sucked into Fox’s alternate reality, they think 20% is a majority.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:58 pmed reporting that LIEberman office bombarded with calls -
they say politico got the story wrong – he WILL vote for cloture…
hmmm.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:59 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
workerbee says:
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October 27th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Your “proof” is some half-assed site that attempts to dole out numbers for ONE SHOW on MSNBC ?
Who knew that Rachel Maddow’s show was on 24/7 ……
October 27th, 2009 at 3:00 pmworkerbee:
“Oh, shit, they’re talking about health care…better cause a distraction…I know, Fox News ratings! Oh, look a squirrel!”
Seriously….STAY ON TOPIC, D0UCHE.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:00 pmPlease tell me why God should bless America???
Two wars…
Millions without a home
Millions without health care
Millions who can’t afford to go to collage
Wiped out middle class
Laws set up in favor of corporations
spend 73% of US income tax dollars on the military.
Have overthrown governments that were elected by the people
Allow people to buy assult rifles for hunting???? Really.
This is just the beggining….
PLEASE TELL ME AGAIN WHY GOD SHOULD BLESS AMERICA?????
USE YOUR FU**EN BRAIN!!!
October 27th, 2009 at 3:01 pmThe difference between the Reich and The Left:
October 27th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
workerbee says:
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October 27th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Please post the link that shows Maddow’s show is the only one on MSNBC , you ignorant GOP skid mark…..
October 27th, 2009 at 3:01 pmhey workerdrone, tell us when you have ever been right about anything.
Name one successful program the gop can lay claim to. Just one.
Where’s them WMD’s. I’m still waiting for that era of prosperity that you promised if we gave tax cuts to the rich and deregulated…….what say you?
October 27th, 2009 at 3:02 pm*FLAGGED*, spamming.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:03 pmfat of the beef thinks that when you specifically use the word Israel that they can turn you into an anti-semite.
Are they just dumb or has no one told them the difference between being Jewish and being the Isreali government?
I guess it’s willful ignorance. they seem to lean that way.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:04 pmAnd Iraq has government run health care courtesy of the American taxpayers and the blood of American troops. Aren’t there any politicians that will do the right thing for the citizens of this country even if it means putting their jobs on the line? And we have the nerve to talk about how great Americans are. Pathetic.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:05 pmARE YOU EFFIN RETARDED, WORKERBEE???
If you want to talk about Fox:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/26/fox-obama-change/
Since it’s clearly too confusing for you, let me explain:
1) take your mouse (that’s the thing connected to your computer that moves the arrow around on your screen) and point it to the underlined part of this post.
2) Click the left button once.
3) Read the story.
4) Respond on that thread, where your drivel will still be drivel, but at least it will be on topic.
Sweet jebus you must be the biggest fcuking moron on the planet. Infcukingcredible.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:05 pmHey worker drone, the poll that mattered was when the American people elected a black man with a muslim name rather than any republican……..
October 27th, 2009 at 3:06 pmDear Senator Lieberman,
When you allow millions of Americans to die because they can’t afford health care coverage, it is an American version of the Holocaust.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:07 pmworkerbee says: Must support the hive, must support the hive, munch, munch, barf, barf, oh look, a squirrel, must support the hive, munch, barf.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:08 pmFred @100
FTW
I wish I could vote that up 50 times.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:08 pmFred….RIGHT ON!!!!
October 27th, 2009 at 3:08 pmWhy is this dorkqweef loser posting some half-assed site addy rather than just posting Nielsen Numbers , which are the only ones generally accepted when discussing television ratings ?
What a jackass…….
October 27th, 2009 at 3:10 pmFox’s ratings happen by MORONS who believe their LIES.
REAL Americans KNOW that Fox is PROPAGANDA.
And REAL Americans KNOW that the Public Option WILL pass.
Of course, not “workerbee” and the other supporters of the TREASONOUS Bush and Cheney.
DEFINITELY not…
October 27th, 2009 at 3:11 pmworkerbee’s got a thing for poles.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:12 pmAll attributed to adolf dubyah (R-Nazi). Thanks for admitting his failures.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:12 pmworkerbee says:
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October 27th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
George W Bush – Never E-L-E-C-T-E-D , just selected ; and the worst president in US history , whom you and your equally ignorant ilk still adore.
Nuff said……
October 27th, 2009 at 3:12 pmI loathe that wrinkly old whiner – KICK HIM TO THE CURB, NOW!!!
October 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pmworkerbee, we’re not dittoheads like you. We don’t need ratings to know what’s good and what’s cr@p. Reality TV routinely beats out good show and movies. That doesn’t make it good. It’s funny that you people are such chumps Fox has to constantly feed you their ratings info so you go against your own instincts and watch their drivel.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pmWORKERBEE
STAY ON TOPIC.
What is your problem, you idiot?
The amazing part is that if you were man enough to debate any of those things you brought up, the people on this site would eat you for lunch…but you don’t have the balls. You’re a post and run pussy.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pmMCM, why does the troll even focus on cable “news” ratings in the first place?
I’ve tried to get an answer from trolls for years on this question, and they never seem to be able to face it:
what do cable “news” ratings mean in the context of political debate?
Never got a straight answer yet. They just have no other argument so they throw the same crap at the wall again and again.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:14 pmWrong. Stock market has been soaring, my retirement accounts are getting fat, my investments and stock portfolio are raking it in….God Bless America!!! GO USA! GO USA! GO USA! GO USA!
October 27th, 2009 at 3:15 pmYou listed bush and the gop failures. What happened to the party of personal responibility?
You expose just how phony and shallow you really are.
Thanks.
I also noticed that you didn’t take the opportunity to list any of the gop success stories I asked for. Why is that?
October 27th, 2009 at 3:16 pmI checked out the 3rd rate crappy site that workingona1IQ posted ; says all you need to know about the dump when some dopey broad posted a comment trying to eviscerate Olbermann , while cooing about Glenn Speck’s “brilliance” ….
It’s probably Bible Spice Palin……
October 27th, 2009 at 3:16 pmHey, workerbee, since you like polls so much, try this one on for size:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/10/27/2109332.aspx?ocid=twitter
Support for a public option at an all time high. SUCK ON IT, B!TCH.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pmUnemployment up. Thanks to 8 years of sending jobs offshore and deregulating everything they could. Thanks Republicans.
Stim fail-asking for more. Contradiction in terms. If it is failing why ask for more? And which Red States are asking? Thanks Republicans.
Both wars-failing miserably. As they have for the past 8 years because the bozos who thought they were a good idea had no clue beyond putting money in cronies pockets. Thanks Republicans.
health care-not looking good. Because Republicans are saying NO to everything and not even trying to participate or offer alternatives. Thanks Republicans.
Any more goat tripe there buzzy?
October 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pmStay classy, Joe…
Oh, wait! You never had any class.
Remember, this is the guy who had to lead McCain around and tell him what to say as he, McCain & Graham spent our tax dollars pole dancing in Iraq.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
David Volsky says
October 27th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
No, because many democrats watch CNN, NBC, ABC, etc, not just MSNBC. Most liberals do watch MSNBC though, and they have a much higher number of the 21-35 demographic than Fox.
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Don’t forget that many liberals spend less time glued to the teevee in general. We like to get our news from a variety of sources (including television), but we tend not to plug ourselves into it for hours on end in order to be programmed.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pmbackup
The public option is the compromise, so the answer to your question is “no.” There has been enough compromise, and they aren’t going to get any Republican votes anyway. The best thing they could do right now is to load up a bill with everything they want and then vote on it, as they will get just as much bipartisanship out of that bill as they are getting out of this one.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pmRun for office, b-kkkup, and tell them how to do it. You hate America, minorities, reality, and facts….you’re a perfect GOPig candidate.
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Oh Joe! Are you trying to make yourself relevant again?
October 27th, 2009 at 3:24 pmAm I the only one here who finds the idea of beef flavored kool aid repulsive?
October 27th, 2009 at 3:24 pmActually, Beefeater, there is a distinct difference between being Jewish, and therefore pro-Israel, and being pro-Israel to hell with America.
It is not anti-semetic to call someone out for being more pro-Israel than they are pro-America. You don’t have to agree with the assessment, of course, but that doesn’t make RUC a Jew-hater.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:24 pmHoodathunk @128
Nope.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:24 pmI’m going to answer that one, back up
I’d rather have none at all, and here’s why – because by allowing states to opt out, which they would do for purely political reasons, they are punishing those who have no say in the opt out. Seeing as the entire plan is optional from the get go, all that having an opt-out accomplishes is the further oppression of the poor (which tend to be from the South and Republican). I will not get behind such a discriminating bill. No opt-out.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pmbackup says:
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October 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
It would be humanly impossible for you to be any more dishonest and/or more delusional .
You’re actually claiming that ANY REPUBLICAN is interested in casting anything other than a “NAY” vote on any bill that includes a public option , regardless of the language in it or the way it is presented ?
I have some beans if you’re interested in growing a beanstalk ……
October 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Ralph @ 114
When your political agenda is totally discredited by a significant majority of Americans, I guess the rubes have to find comfort in something. As usual, they misinterpret/misread the data. So 460,000 people watch Fox…BFD. That’s 1/700 of the entire US population. All that tells me is there are a half million Americans willing to believe the propaganda and disregard the reality of past 30 years.
It’s like saying, “sure my favorite football team went win-less this year, but we led the league in visits to the urinal”.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pmAn Opt Out Plan. Sure, let us please allow states run by Republicans decide to discriminate against their residents as US citizens. Makes perfect sense.
“Yes, residents of my state, I have decided to not let you participate in a national health insurance program because I know you are all real Americans and strongly desire to continue to support corporations that like to take your money and dump on you. Vote to re-elect me in November!”
October 27th, 2009 at 3:27 pmBeefeater says:
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October 27th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
How cute …………(and nauseatingly delusional) ; the GOP tool actually believes his useless opinion matters…..
It doesn’t , stooge…..
October 27th, 2009 at 3:28 pmSenator Palpatine hasn’t given up yet! He still thinks he can be important to somebody…
October 27th, 2009 at 3:28 pmMr.Duke says:
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ThinkProgress previously produced a report titled “Joe Lieberman: The Progressive Who Lost His Way.”
No. He finally got smart and realized the nanny state is a loser’s philosophy.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
How’s that “permanent Republican majority/Contract With America” , working out for you and your imbecilic brethren , tool ?
October 27th, 2009 at 3:30 pmMr. Duke
Did you sleep through the last 30 years? It is the Republicans who have decided that they would grow government, tell people who they are allowed to marry and what they are allowed to put in their bodies, in addition to creating the largest expansion of an entitlement program since the inception of Medicare.
Republicans are the ones pushing a nanny-state. How do you reconcile that? Oh, nevermind. You don’t have to reconcile it. Master Rush told you everything you know so you don’t have to bother with all that pesky “thinking.”
October 27th, 2009 at 3:30 pmBest laugh all day tigger. Sen. Palpatine.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:30 pmYou can GO HERE to tell Traitor Joe what you think about how he wants to help the American people:
Front Page:
http://lieberman.senate.gov/
It appears that he is one of those few that LIMITS the email to people from Connecticut.
http://lieberman.senate.gov/contact/
BUT you can call (call, call, call!) or fax.
Office, Phone, Fax numbers:
Washington, DC Office
706 Hart Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
(202) 224-4041 Voice
(202) 224-9750 Fax
Connecticut Office
One Constitution Plaza
7th Floor
Hartford, CT 06103
(860) 549-8463 Voice
(800) 225-5605 In CT
(866) 317-2242 Fax
Spread the word!
October 27th, 2009 at 3:34 pmWouldn’t devoting time to drafting a workable opt out make sense to facilitate a compromise?
There is only one opt out proposal that makes sense. Let individual Americans decide if they want to buy in to a public option or remain with private health insurance.
You know, that good ole Republican idea of letting the people decide?
October 27th, 2009 at 3:36 pmb-kkkup, I’d rather you go fetch us some more links to newsbusters and foxnation to “prove your point”….so we can laugh at you so more.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:40 pmWe might as well give it up smidg, the troll has decided on the “truth” as he wants to see it. He’s probably one of those “real” Americans.
willfull ignorance can be cured beefeater but you have to admit you have a problem first.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:41 pmI just sent this piece of crap the most hateful message I could muster. I hope he rots in hell.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:43 pmI see b-cup is back to his “hypothetical one or the other” arguments. Let’s see if we can try it:
b-cup, would you rather I pee in your coffee?
Or would you rather a take a dump in your corn flakes?
October 27th, 2009 at 3:44 pmbackup says
October 27th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Wouldn’t devoting time to drafting a workable opt out make sense to facilitate a compromise?
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Right now the sticking point appears to be Lieberman’s vote. And he opposed the Baucus bill WITHOUT a public option of any kind, and now he opposes it WITH a public option — even a public option with an opt-out feature.
Lieberman has made it pretty clear he will oppose any kind of health care reform. There’s really no way to “compromise” with him.
And we’ve already seen how many Republicans are willing to work in a bipartisan fashion.
The public option was a compromise from those who wanted a single payer system for those who didn’t. The opt-out feature is a compromise for the tenthers. The pharmaceutical companies were brought on board with the compromise that their profits weren’t going to be eliminated under the new system, and doctors were brought on board with the compromise that their fees wouldn’t be cut to the bone.
This is plenty of compromise, and it still isn’t enough. When President Obama tried to meet with Republican leaders and offered to put tort reform on the table, he got nothing but crickets chirping when he asked what the Republicans would put on the table in return. The Republicans aren’t interested in compromise. They haven’t given an inch. They are far more interested in destroying the Obama presidency, and they’ve made this crystal clear.
The only thing left to do at this point is to put forth a bill the American people will accept and let the opposition commit political suicide filibustering it.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:47 pmIt appears that he is one of those few that LIMITS the email to people from Connecticut.
Anyone who accepts campaign contributions from non-constituents should also accept e-mails from non-constituents. They can’t have it both ways. They can’t take money from non-constituents but then tell them he doesn’t have to listen to anything they say.
That having been said, no one should be allowed to accept campaign contributions from non-constituents. It creates too many conflict-of-interest scenarios.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:48 pmThat’s my biggest flaw, Fred – I convinced myself years ago that with a proper argument and enough evidence, anyone can see the light. Then I grew up and met some Republicans (the crazy kind, not the kind like my uncle the accountant who is a completely rational person and is actually probably more of a Democrat these days than he is Republican now that they’ve gone completely off the rails) and boy was I ever wrong. I’m still trying to accept the error of my previous thinking.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:52 pmWhat politician, with the possible exception of GW Bush or Dick Cheney, has done more damage in modern times to our country than Traitor Joe Lieberman? This man is a real piece of work. How can one person be on the wrong side of so many issues? Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:53 pmreconciliation…
October 27th, 2009 at 3:55 pmBeefeater,
I’m a proud “Joo” and can tell you to go fk yourself. Criticism of Israel (in this case, anyway) is not akin to anti-Semitism.
You, sir, are a putz.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:56 pmsmidget,
I gave up on republicans when reagan was elected. But to your “reasoning” comment.
A canteen driver just pulled up to our warehouse and I’m always real friendly with him – I always am to people who are trying to make a living.
And he says “what’s up with Obama trying to push through healthcare when there’s so many other issues. He wants to raise taxes and we’re already in two wars and the economys in the tank…I think there’s so many other more important issues to worry about. And he wants to give healthcare to all the people on welfare and are too lazy to work.”
So I said to him, “well, the people on welfare already have healthcare, he’s just trying to provide for others who don’t have any. I don’t have any, do you?”
Then he says, “I’m over 65 so I’m on medicare” then he looks at me a little disdainfully and departs.
Go figure.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:01 pmTheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong says:
They should’ve supported Lamont. I’m sick of these “Career Politicians” switching parties to keep their seat!!!
You seem to forget that the Democratic Party did support Lamont. It was Republicans voting for Lieberman that gave him the victory.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:04 pmWow, Rich.
You just can’t make up stuff like that, you know?
Of course, I am proud of you for so clearly confusing him, and probably making him think, at least slightly, about what it was that he just said, although there were a whole bunch of inaccuracies in that statement.
There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. This is what we’re up against. People on Medicare who think that others don’t deserve the same. Incredible.
I’m about to seriously undermine my own credibility here, but have to admit something – I wasn’t around when Reagan was first elected. I’m only 26. :)
October 27th, 2009 at 4:04 pmRich H, I run into that a lot too Rich. It seems they all want to take us on but when they try, they always fail because of generally very obvious contradictions they have about what they consider to be the truth.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pmHoodathunk says
October 27th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
“Yes, residents of my state, I have decided to not let you participate in a national health insurance program because I know you are all real Americans and strongly desire to continue to support corporations that like to take your money and dump on you. Vote to re-elect me in November!”
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I’m not wild about an opt-out feature, but if that’s the only to get a public option, I can live with it.
Because I know that any reform will take some time to implement, it will cause a fair amount of discussion at the state level during the interim about opting out or not. Citizens will demand their governor and state legislators make public their stand on the issue, and elections will be determined by it. I predict a lot of the pompous posturing we’re seeing now will diminish in the glare of glaring voters, although there will still be some who will fit the scenario you describe above.
Even those states who manage to successfully opt out of the public option will be wanting to opt back in once they see how other states are better off with it.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:08 pmCredibility comes from thinking and acting. There are plenty of dumbasses my age out there(58). I’m glad to see young people understand that politics is crappy but it affects our lives and so we must pay attention.
Cheers.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:10 pmJeez, what kind people would deny health care to a human being . .
(shaking my head)
While vacationing in Italy my g/f broke her toe. Hospital treated her and gave her medication. No one asked us for a dime. I asked ‘no bill’ they said, no, senora, go have a good time, be well . .
Socialist bastards!! I’m still in shock . .
October 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pmSoapBox says:
It appears that he is one of those few that LIMITS the email to people from Connecticut.
http://lieberman.senate.gov/contact/
It’s easy to get around his restrictions. Just use Hartford, CT 06103 and make up a street address. The program controlling the contact page is looking for an acceptable zip code. I do this all the time with everyone but Nancy Pelosi who actually has a Speaker of the House page that accepts e-mails from anyone. Chicken $hit Harry Reid doesn’t have a Senate Majority Leader page like Nancy has. His pages all only accept e-mail from residents of Nevada.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pmI wonder how many pieces of gold Judas got for turning on the people of his state? The man should be kicked out of the Democratic caucus and lose his committee chair.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pmThank you, Fred. Politics does suck, but it literally affects every single life in this country and many lives in other countries. Who we choose as our leaders is vital to the health and wellbeing of our economy and our populace and is critical to our security. It is very important that those of us who recognize this and care about the outcomes vote accordingly and try to be fairly active in the political process.
Unfortunately, I’m an accountant, and I am surrounded by die-hard Republicans all day, every day. So I come here to vent my commie, pinko, liberal, hippie, pot-smoking, free-health-care-giving, gay-marrying, peace-loving opinions among like-minded individuals. :)
October 27th, 2009 at 4:16 pmLiebermann is just a two-bit whore for the health insurance cabal.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:17 pmSend Lieberman an e-mail at:
http://lieberman.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm?regarding=issue
It’s really simple. He even gives you the zip code for Hartford in the upper right hand corner when you are on his contact page. I just sent him an e-mail reminding him that he has a duty to “we the people”, not to the for-profit health care industry.
I suspect that Lieberman knows there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell he will ever be re-elected so he’s trying to rake in as much money as he can while he still has a job. It’s too bad he’s not up for re-election until 2012.
Doesn’t CT have a way to get rid of him?
October 27th, 2009 at 4:18 pmI live in Oklahoma…..need I say more?
October 27th, 2009 at 4:19 pmsmidget,
When I was 26 the Apple Lisa was state of art.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:19 pmsmidget says
October 27th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I’m about to seriously undermine my own credibility here, but have to admit something – I wasn’t around when Reagan was first elected. I’m only 26. :)
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One need not be old to be interested in their government and their political system. One need not be old to recognize propaganda and BS. And one need not be old to make an intelligent argument or exhibit common sense.
I’m about to turn 54, but started being aware of social injustice when I marched alongside my parents for civil rights as a child in the sixties. And on my own, I’ve been interested in doing (and arguing for) what’s best for this country since I was in my teens and the Vietnam war was raging.
You may not remember Ronald Reagan due to your age, but I’m sure you’ve had opportunity to talk to those who do (and knowing you, I bet you’ve grabbed that opportunity). Just as I wasn’t around during the time of FDR, but I have had my parents and grandparents to share with me what the Great Depression and World War II were like to live through.
Your credibility is just fine. You’re thoughtful and intelligent, you present your points well, and I enjoy your posts. Keep it up!
October 27th, 2009 at 4:20 pmMe too missmolly. I went through Selma Alabama in 1965 and it changed the way I saw things. I was 15.
I was arrested in 69 on college campus. It was an awakening for many.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:25 pmBorn in 1954?
October 27th, 2009 at 4:27 pmJoe Lieberman October 2006 (when he was trying to get the people’s vote):
“I’ve been working on health insurance reform for more than a dozen years. … I have offered a comprehensive program. Small business health insurance reform, plus something I call MediKids to cover all the children in America on a sliding fee basis up until the age of 25.
“MediChoice to allow anybody in our country to buy into a national insurance pool like the health insurance pool that we federal employees and Members of Congress have. Medical malpractice reform.
“It will cover 95% of those who are not covered now, and it will reduce the pressure on rising costs for all the millions of others.”
2004 presidential campaign:
“My plan will also enable all Americans who don’t have access to affordable, conventional health insurance to buy into new MediChoice health insurance pools, modeled on the health care program for federal employees. The MediChoice pools will be open to all workers who currently fall through insurance cracks. This includes self-employed, part-time, seasonal and temporary workers. It also will give stay-at-home moms, early retirees over 55 and workers in small companies with less than 50 employees access to affordable health benefits.”
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This is totally wrong to get votes by promising a strong public option—and then once you are in office, pull a complete 180 degrees!
October 27th, 2009 at 4:31 pmPost 160: Bilbo…
HEY! That’s great info! Thanks!
October 27th, 2009 at 4:33 pmHi Fred,
Pretty close, 1957. Seeing how smidget is only 26 got me to thinking how well organized we (or I shoud say “I”)could have been way back when if the same technology had been available.
And McCain wants to regulate it. But it’s great reading smidget – there’s hope for the future yet!
October 27th, 2009 at 4:35 pmRich, Lisa was one of our learning experiences…….it didn’t last long.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:37 pmNo, any Republicans who could find their way out of the darkness of alternate reality have already seen the light and left the Republican party. The 20% deadenders are all that remain, and nothing can save them.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:40 pmI’m really feeling the love here, guys. Thank you so much!
I get a little irritable sometimes and sometimes find myself partaking in the completely immature pastime of troll-baiting….but I can only hope to grow up and be as rational and thoughtful as the fine folk on TP.
Fred – Yikes. I totally get it, man. I live in a town of 3,000 in NE Kentucky. I like it here…but yowzers, it’s rather oppressive for a liberal like me….though I have noticed an awful lot of Obama bumper stickers lately. That’s hope for the future, right there.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:41 pmI’ve worked shutdowns at the refinery at Ashland.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:44 pmFred and MissMolly,
Well, I never marched, but my earliest rememberance of injustice was the older kids in my nieghborhood scared shi*less of being drafted. And then those who were, and then who didn’t come back.
Fred, did you ever use the Lisa?
October 27th, 2009 at 4:45 pmAfter reading the posts and the story, I really think there is no other choice than to use budget reconciliation. Daily Kos is saying that not everything can be budget reconciliation… but there still is a lot that can be in it. I wish Reid would give Joe an ultimatum… stop the filibuster with us or you’re out. There will be less Democrats in the next Senate, but we should still have a majority… so kicking out Lieberman will not hurt us one way or another. I wish there were other options, though. But it really makes me steamed that he’s holding up the process.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:47 pmHolding up the process and being an ignorant as*hole is pretty much all Joe knows how to do.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:49 pmFred, that’s where I live!
Kind of. Grayson, actually. The vast majority of my friends’ fathers work at Ashland Oil (now known as Marathon).
October 27th, 2009 at 4:50 pmRich, no, I didn’t get involved until dos came along. I am a Cad designer and AutoCad didn’t come along that early.
Never been a Mac person.
I use too much VBA to get away from it. It’s too easy.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:50 pmHoly Joe is shaking down the insurance lobby money tree.
How is that moral again, Holy Joe, you stinking hypocrite?
Joe Lieberman has an ever-shifting line of disingenuous arguments for opposing a public option. He has cast his lot in with the Republicans who he needs to win re-election. He doesn’t give a rat’s ass about anyone but Joe, and maybe his health industry lobbyist wife.
Thanks, Connecticut!
October 27th, 2009 at 4:51 pmHis number is taking messages again:
(202) 224-4041
October 27th, 2009 at 4:54 pmWell, the refinery is actually in Catlettsburg but the Union Hall was in Ashland.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:54 pmYeah, I know.
I live up the interstate a little bit. From my front door to the parking lot at the refinery is about a 20 minute trip up I-64. Were you a boilermaker or a pipefitter? We have locals for both in Ashland.
Geez, small world, huh?
October 27th, 2009 at 4:56 pmOh yeah, that’s why most people around here are registered Democrats – nearly all of them owe everything they have to the existence of unions.
The only reason we go Republican on a national level so often is because of the prevalence of religion in the area. Look for that to change in the near future. Jim Bunning’s Senate seat is up for grabs next year and it will be a really good race – a well-liked Republican versus a very well-liked Lt. Governor. Should be a doozey.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:58 pmWait people… quote from MSNBC.com:
“Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman said Tuesday he would support sending Reid’s bill to the Senate floor for debate but would ultimately oppose the measure as written because it includes the federal insurance option, even though states would be allowed to opt out under the design Reid announced Monday.” (Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33489424/ns/politics-health_care_reform/)
Guess we don’t need to worry about this then?????
October 27th, 2009 at 4:58 pmPipefitter. We worked the crude unit.
I was a superintendent for CTS. Do you know an old timer named Crawford?
October 27th, 2009 at 5:00 pmOne more side note for Fred and then I’m gone for the day – the town I live in has a population roughly equivalent to the number of employees Ashland Oil has on payroll at any given time. Yeah. We also have a Christian college and at least 25 churches. Just to give a little insight into the state of things around here.
The elderly are at diametric odds with the younger of us when it comes to politics. Frankly, they’re THE reason we’re still a dry county. We’re just biding our time. We’re younger than them, we’ll outlive ‘em. :)
October 27th, 2009 at 5:02 pmHow about Rodney Barbour?
October 27th, 2009 at 5:02 pmcondour,
October 27th, 2009 at 5:03 pmcouldn’t speak to staff—just busy signal
and could not leave message—mailbox was full
In 2006 candidate Lieberman was for national health insurance. But now he’s against it. My guess is that in 2012 Traitor Joe will be for it again.
October 27th, 2009 at 5:04 pmI don’t personally know him, but I bet a bunch of guys I know do. My ex-boss’ husband has been at the refinery for nearly 30 years, and he’s worked his way up to superintendent. Now he’s about to retire.
Anywho. I’ve got to get going. I’m sure my puppies need to go outside. It was great talking to you. It’s so crazy that you’re familiar with my little corner of the world. Surreal. Take it easy, Fred!
October 27th, 2009 at 5:05 pm3,000 people and 25 churches, did I read that right?
October 27th, 2009 at 5:05 pmYes Rich, you did. That’s not entirely fair, of course. Some of those churches are outside of the city limits, and when you include all of Carter County and not just Grayson, you’re looking at close to 15,000 people, but that also includes Olive Hill. Of course, if you include all of Carter County, you’re looking at closer to 50 churches. Bible Belt man. It sucks.
Later taters!
October 27th, 2009 at 5:08 pmNo one more to clarify that – there is a LOT of country around here. A lot of these churches are tiny little places out in the middle of nowhere and will have a congregation of 20 or 30. The church I got married in (more about why an atheist would get married in a church on another day – it wasn’t a religious ceremony, I promise!) only has 80 members and about 40 show up on any given Sunday.
It sounds like a lot, but when you consider the size of most of them, it’s not really. Most people my age don’t go to church on Sundays now that they have grown up and their parents don’t make them anymore.
Okay, I really do have to go now, guys. I’ll talk to you later.
October 27th, 2009 at 5:10 pmHave a good day smidget.
That many churches just boggles the mind. The town I grew up in also had about 3,000 people, but I think we only had three churches.
I guess we must have been pretty godless.
October 27th, 2009 at 5:19 pm#164 Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:
Send Lieberman an e-mail at:
http://lieberman.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm?regarding=issue
It’s really simple. He even gives you the zip code for Hartford in the upper right hand corner when you are on his contact page.
Holy Joe doesn’t listen to people from Hartford (or New Haven or Bridgeport or New London). They’re those kind of people. Use a West Simsbury or Greenwich or Wilton ZIP code. That’s Joe’s kind of people.
Cheers,
October 27th, 2009 at 5:32 pmWho’s Paying Lieberman? SCUM BAG!
October 27th, 2009 at 6:26 pmLieberman needs to grow a soul. Tiny Tim would not approve of this man.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:40 pmLieberman needs to grow a soul. Tiny Tim would not approve of this man.
“God bless us, everyone. Except Joe Lieberman.”
I remember when Tiny Tim said that. How prescient of him. :)
October 27th, 2009 at 9:05 pmScrew Loserman. Let him try his little attention-grabbing power play — and then shove it up his a$$ by passing healthcare reform by budget reconciliation.
The time for playing is OVER. Kick Loserman to the curb, get Reid off his fence, and let’s get the real leaders of this country to finally get real healthcare reform passed…
October 27th, 2009 at 9:27 pmLizCoro says:
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Jeez, what kind people would deny health care to a human being . .
(shaking my head)
While vacationing in Italy my g/f broke her toe. Hospital treated her and gave her medication. No one asked us for a dime. I asked ‘no bill’ they said, no, senora, go have a good time, be well . .
Socialist bastards!! I’m still in shock . .
So, what you’re saying is you want free stuff wherever you go? AND, who pays for that?
October 27th, 2009 at 9:32 pmYou Progressives accuse FoxNews of lying but never back it up with facts or proof.
Here are 7 lies in 2 minutes to think about.
http://www.theospark.net/2009/09/video-7-lies-in-under-2-minutes.html
October 27th, 2009 at 9:42 pmI hope you guys or another progressive activist group will quickly produce an ad like this to air across Connecticut:
A dark city street; a stretch limo drives along, slows, rolls down a window, a hand beckons to a prostitute hanging on the corner. The hooker approaches the car and leans down; the hand flashes big wads of money. As the hooker gets in, we finally see “her” face: it’s Joe Lieberman. The car drives away and we see logos plastered across it: Aetna, Hartford Life, and all the other big insurance companies (especially those based in Connecticut) that have given him more than a million bucks in the past five years. The license plate reads “Joe.Inc.” As the car drives away, people (maybe identified as Connecticut towns?) try to follow it, calling “Joe.” “Senator Lieberman.” “What about us?” “What about the voters?” etc. The tag line: SUPPORT A PUBLIC OPTION FOR ALL CITIZENS, JOE. Or something of the sort.
If anyone out there is connected to an ad agency or a public policy group that can put together an ad like this, PLEASE go for it!!! It should start running the day Senate debate begins on a health care bill.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:43 pmKenneth 204 – per the video you referenced – 6 of the supposed ‘lies’ have to do with government transparency. The 7th ‘lie’ is that Justice Brandeis said that ’sunlight is the best disinfectant’.
According to the first few sites I Googled, Brandeis did make that statement. If Brandeis was not the originator of that remark, this is a mis-attribution, not a lie.
Even if every single thing on that video regarding future government transparency turned out not to be true, there are not 6 separate ‘lies’ as the website implies; there are 6 remarks on one subject.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:53 pmI grew up in Connecticut and lived there when Lieberman ran for senate the same year he ran for VP, always knew this piece of fecal matter was a snake in the grass and 2000 proved it to me. He truly is one of the most vile, disgusting piece of trash ever to reside in that state. And to think he represents CT in the senate. Really glad I moved.
But is anyone surprised?? This vain little man can’t stand to see himself out of the spotlight and not on television, which is strange when you look at how truly ugly he is, on the inside and out.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:14 pmThe approach to Lieberman has been all wrong. The White House should send Hillary to have a sit-down with the Israeli ambassador and promise him another advanced jet fighter in return for Joe’s cooperation.
October 28th, 2009 at 8:52 amHealth care reform will help doctors, who man the most complicated machines, and who are ostensibly the most highly educated population in society. An American education always functions to embed democratic ideas and principles, within those traditional academic subjects that are taught. In addition, medical professionals are popularly rated as one of the most highly valued heterogeneous groups, in our society!
IMO, our higher education system may yet be the finest avenue available after highschool, there are ample useful materials, and high quality library staffers. Those lucky students who successfully graduate with a degree, will have completed the study of a particularized ‘circle of knowledge’, whereas intellectually, they will reside within those curricular boundaries, which provide safety and security to each and every degree-holder, and which expand that safety and security toward each and every community. Let’s support our highly educated doctors! Support health care reforms, now TP!!
October 28th, 2009 at 12:52 pmsmidget – You are completely credible. You state your opinion as such, you smack down trolls hard but gracefully, usually after you give them a chance to actually SAY something, you are not arrogant or just pushing one point 24/7! Now if you were only 22 we might have a problem…
;-)
October 28th, 2009 at 1:04 pmKenneth is brainwashed and VERY stupid. Kenneth is also a LIAR. Why do you lie so much Kenneth? What part of being a liar, a moron, and a punkass troll excites you so much?
October 28th, 2009 at 8:11 pm