Boehner Won’t Pledge To Offer GOP Health Care Plan, Refuses To Post It Online If He Does
Boehner Won’t Pledge To Offer GOP Health Care Plan, Refuses To Post It Online If He Does
Republicans have been insisting for months that Democrats are shoving a secret bill down the throats of the American public. The health reform legislation “should be posted online for 72 hours so members and the American people get a chance to see what’s in these bills,” House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) told Fox News. “But it seems to me that Democrat leaders want to rush these bills through Congress before anybody has a chance to read them.”
In fact, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) “has repeatedly pledged to Republicans that the health bill and any manager’s amendment would be posted online for at least 72 hours before the House votes,” and he promised again this week.
At a press conference this morning, a reporter turned the tables on Boehner and asked whether he’d post the GOP plan for 72 hours. Boehner declined to make such a pledge:
QUESTION: Will the Republicans put their alternative online for 72 hours as well?
BOEHNER: Uh, we’ll uh, we’ll have our ideas ready. Don’t worry.
Why won’t Bohner post the GOP plan? Because he doesn’t have one. Later in the press conference, this minor detail was revealed when a reporter pressed Boehner for a GOP alternative plan:
QUESTION: Is it your plan to have one Republican alternative that you all would get behind and endorse?
BOHNER: We have a number of ideas that we would like to proffer in this process, and we’re not quite sure how the majority intends to proceed. And so until we understand how they intend to proceed, it’s pretty difficult for us to have a solid plan.
Watch it:
Earlier this month, Fox’s Greta van Susteren asked Boehner why House Republicans didn’t push for transparency when they were in power. “It was a different time,” Boehner said in response.
It’s clear why Republicans have been insisting on having as much time as possible to read the bill. As Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KS) explained, health insurance lobbyists need to be given “at least 72 hours” so they can try to kill the legislation.
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Shorter Boehner: Our plan was, and is, stall and obstruct.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:53 pm“…um…well, uh, we don’t really have any plan, or ideas, but we do fancy ourselves pretty good liars, and i think that’ll be enough to get us through this.”
October 29th, 2009 at 1:53 pmThey got nothing meaningful and didn’t think they would have to offer anything. This shows the Pubs had no intention of working with Democrats or even offering the public anything. Hail your republican representatives!!! Your desire to make healthcare is unimportant!
October 29th, 2009 at 1:55 pmThe big money leg humpers for minority rule dont have any reform plan because their non-government paycheck requires it.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:55 pmDemocrats have posted their bill on line:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/29/history-in-the-making-rea_n_338438.html
If Republicans agree that our healthcare system is currently unsatisfactory, they need to additionally post their proposed solutions online, so the American people can decide between completing plans.
If the Republicans can offer no solution, or are unwilling to post a bill on-line (as Democrats have); they need to resign themselves to being merely obstructionists.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:58 pm“Boehner Won’t Pledge To Offer GOP Health Care Plan, Refuses To Post It Online If He Does”
In plain English: No plan, no idea, and no direction. And the reason for Boner not to put their plan online? Simply, they don’t want to be the butt of the joke. And after their laughable press conference in April and the release of their 18 page pamphlet and one pic of windmill online of their budgetless budget plan from the GOP’s starving for recovery plan, you can see why.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:58 pmcompeting
October 29th, 2009 at 1:58 pmBOHNER: We have a number of ideas that we would like to proffer in this process…”
“the only problem”, continued the feces covered Boner, “is that our ideas are worthless and we’re still waiting for AETNA, CIGNA, et. al. to tell us what the hell we’re supposed to do.”
October 29th, 2009 at 1:58 pmIn other words, they have no plan, they never had a plan, and they don’t intend to draw up a plan. What infuriates me (and it should most taxpaying americans) is they are grabbing a salary of at the minimum of $174,000 (more if they are whips and committee chairs) and have done NOTHING but whine and obstruct.
In this weeks Newsweek, they are quoted as saying that they have no intention of seeing Obama succeed and no intention of helping with his agenda……with an attitude like that they should simply stay home.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:59 pmfreeman, calling freeman to fess up that bohner is who he listens to.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:01 pmRepublican legislators seem to have a few “pre-existing conditions” : hypocrisy, stupidity, vileness, greed, pugnacity, arrogance. However, these conditions do not stop Republican legislators from accepting federally-run health insurance programs. Like McSenator McWar going to the Naval Hospital for elective surgery…
October 29th, 2009 at 2:02 pmRepresentative Alan Grayson already beautifully articulated the GOP’s “plan” …………………..
October 29th, 2009 at 2:03 pmK Street Whore says:
HEY – if anyone would know, you would.
Why does Bohner and his ilk always look like they just rubbed feces all over their faces?
Is it required in your GOP platform or something?
TIA
October 29th, 2009 at 2:04 pmEveryone here is making the assumption (implied or otherwise) that the Republicans feel that the health care system is broken. To them, it is working just fine.
By enriching the people that donate the most to their political campaigns, they are able to stay in office.
Who cares if people are dying because they can’t get proper treatment for their health issues. If they are that poor, then they can’t donate money to candidates and offer cushy jobs to politicians that leave office, so they are irrelevant and worthy of death.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:04 pmThey could at least dust off McCain’s old campaign plan. It’s a sucky plan, but a plan nonetheless. Apparently Boner would rather stand up there and look stupid.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:05 pmzxbe says:
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Apparently Boner would rather stand up there and look stupid.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
But he does it , oh , so well ……….
October 29th, 2009 at 2:06 pmKstreetMORON
Look the same old ignorant punkass troll showing what a piece of dogshit he is
October 29th, 2009 at 2:06 pmAnd obstruction in your heart is a bad thing.
So is obstructionism in a democratic majority rule republic.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:06 pmK Street Whore was parroting bohner in the thinkfast thread.
You guys are basically just lazy. You would rather lie, cheat and steal than do an honest days work.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:06 pmzxbe says:
They could at least dust off McCain’s old campaign plan. It’s a sucky plan, but a plan nonetheless. Apparently Boner would rather stand up there and look stupid.
But I thought that the “true republicans” thought that McCain was a RINO, therefor not worthy of being mentioned?
October 29th, 2009 at 2:07 pmThat’s just his tan.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:07 pmThere IS NO PLAN for the party of NO.
I looked through this mess last night,http://www.gop.gov/solutions/healthcare and even followed the link to Bohnner’s site which was a bunch of crap and as usual these guys have nothing and will depend on word smithing, pretty appearances and fear mongering.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:08 pmQuick, over there! A Republican!
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October 29th, 2009 at 2:10 pmAre they claiming to be a libertarian?
Dave N says:
Why does Bohner and his ilk always look like they just rubbed feces all over their faces?
That’s just his tan
I don’t think so. That doesn’t explain the alarming stench when Bohner or another Republiscum enters the room.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:11 pmK Street Whore,
You need to be more concerned with yourself being one brain short of being a human being.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:14 pmK Street Whore
LIAR
October 29th, 2009 at 2:14 pmK Street Whore says:
October 29th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Now why wouldn’t the boner want to post online the three blank page rethug healtcare plan that the rude rethugs waved around during President Obamas address last month? I’m glad Rep Grayson pointed out the ridiculous tactics of the crooked GOP.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:15 pmLittle Johnny Boner is a liar. The republicans have a “plan” and it’s posted all over the internet from TP to Politico.
It’s one word, two letters long — no!
October 29th, 2009 at 2:16 pmWhore is going to have to stop being a lazy bum and earn her keep. What street corner do you work?
October 29th, 2009 at 2:16 pmK Street. Grayson’s comments are divisive and sensational. But, you could make the argument they get attention and may be effective in getting people to focus on issues he cares about.
I concede the ‘whore’ comment was inappropriate.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:17 pmWait, isn’t it supposed to be the other way around? Don’t you make a plan until you understand wtf is going on? Then modify as needed?
There has got to be a point when the smoke up the cape becomes a mild nuisance to the R supporters.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:17 pmMaybe you’d like to give the rest of the story there, sport.
From FoxNews.com (of all places):
Punked again, braniac.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:18 pmTo the troll @ 26:
Ever consider posting ON TOPIC? This story is a month old and not even newsworthy. Is that all you got @sshole?
October 29th, 2009 at 2:19 pmTop four current comments on the Newser article about Alan Grayson and the vote up/vote down score for each:
“He’s spot on the money!” +29
“I don’t even live in his state but if I did I also would vote for the man…..what he said may not be kiss a$$ PC but he hit it right on the head.” +19
“Hell I am so proud of the man I looked up his web site and told him thanks for having a set, about damn time someone did in Washington” +16
“Typical Democrat. Stupid and mouthy…” -20
Look at those numbers, Whore. The people have spoken.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:19 pmthe whore comment was perfectly appropriate. It just turned out that the particular whore was a woman.
the metaphor is perfect. It’s just all the right has to fight with….ie, inuindo.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:21 pmThey have a plan?
Here’s what they probably have in mind though.
More Lobbyist money for my election coffer.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:23 pmK Street Whore says:
tax cuts for the rich
deregulation
spending and damn the deficit
war
and the right cheered loudly.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:23 pmKsteetPUNK
No we didnt. YOU are a liar. You are a punk. You are a stupid worthless troll and a piece of filth. Maggots vomit when hearing your name. STFU
October 29th, 2009 at 2:23 pm38 Flagged AGAIn for off-topic. Hey whore, you got anything to say in defense of that @sshole Boehner?
October 29th, 2009 at 2:23 pmYou didnt HAVE a point whore. You never do. You ignorant pile of dogshit. STFU
October 29th, 2009 at 2:24 pm“You see,” said Boner, “Our Plan is to be against their plan, so how can we possibly show you our plan until we see their plan…. Jeesh.”
October 29th, 2009 at 2:27 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
You are.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:29 pmK Street Whore says:
This comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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– October 29th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
That about sums this turd up……….
October 29th, 2009 at 2:29 pmIt’s not in the GOPs interest to put out a plan; they cannot govern or legislate. The only thing they know how to do is smear, attack, and divide to the point where they have the public scared shitless and vote them into power. Once there, though, the public realizes they can’t do a goddamm thing and they get laughed out of sight.
Boehner’s GOP plan would almost certainly consist of:
Tax cuts for the wealthy
Rolling back capital gains tax rates (irrelevant to the topic, but a GOP favorite anyway)
Privatizing Medicare
Privatizing or eliminating Medicaid
Eliminating SCHIP
Tort reform
All this would explode the deficit and further increase the insurance industry’s stranglehold over the populace.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:30 pmK Street Whore says:
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I concede the ‘whore’ comment was inappropriate.
Yet, the left cheered loudly…..
October 29th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Well ………….I like whores ; want me to lie ?
I’m no Republican …….Or even one of their imbecilic supporters (hint,hint)
October 29th, 2009 at 2:31 pmReally, I thought some on the left condemned it? That would make you both liars.
Who cheered a war of attrition?
who cheered tax cuts for the rich?
who cheered deregulation?
who didn’t hand off a robust economy to Obama and yet pretend to have solutions.
I think I have a point. I don’t think whore has anything.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:31 pmGrayson apologized for calling Linda Robertson a whore, but I’ll pick up that baton —
Linda Robertson is a K Street Whore.
Cuz she is.
(No offense meant to honest whores)
October 29th, 2009 at 2:33 pmYou, ya dufus. How about you prove that the 29 people who voted up that comment are “lefties?” Prove they’re not American citizens of all stripes who are sick and tired of lobbyists messing up this country.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:34 pmKstreetMORON
YOU are the liar you are CONSTANTLY lying. What now 29 anonymous people on a website constitutes the LEFT? Just STFU you are too stupid to even TRY to have a conversation with.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:35 pmThe only thing the right has on Greyson is that he is outing them. They hate that and so they go to the ditch to find dirt.
They are too lazy to work and do the right thing. It is easier to use blackmail to make people leave them alone.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:35 pmK Street Whore says:
Which is it? You realize that unlike your Messiah Rush, you don’t have a tape delay to smooth out your incoherent raving, right?
October 29th, 2009 at 2:39 pmIf you want a party who insists on fiscal responsibility for all bills that benefit the “masses”, but will borrow trillions to support the military-industrial, energy, and pharmaceutical interests (Iraq, prescription plan, and mideast oil) and that continually focuses the hate and ire of their christian base on minorities (gays, blacks, and now muslims) and is willing to throw their constituencies under a bus to enrich themselves and their families, then the New Republican Party is for you. They will say whatever you want to hear, the do their own thing. What a party!
October 29th, 2009 at 2:42 pmPlease, someone correct me if I am remembering this wrong, but I thought that when the Republicans controlled both Houses, they routinely shut the Democrats completely out of all Conference Committees, where the final versions of the bills were written. Bills had popular Democratic amendments stripped away, and often no Democrats took part in the writing of the bills that eventually got passed (or maybe only the very conservative Dems got to sit in).
And they did this regularly and routinely. For them to complain about not having their say is hypopcrisy of the worst kind.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:43 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
backup, what you are doing now is what trolls do.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:49 pmboehner is limp on his best days.
grayson kicks ass. every day.
ms robertson provides a face and a voice for the morally suspect activities of others in exchange for money – maybe he should’ve called her a pimp instead.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pmbackup is a whore.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:57 pmbackup says:
October 29th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
backup,
To reiterate: She’s a K Street Whore.
You can take your little attempt to curb my misbehavior and shove it. Thnx.
October 29th, 2009 at 2:59 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
We have a number of ideas that we would like to proffer in this process,…….
Do tell ? If that is so, how come you haven’t offered them in the last 2 decades ?
October 29th, 2009 at 3:09 pmI admit to being a little confused about Grayson’s remark. If the object of the remark had been a man, no one would have batted an eye. But since the “k street whore” in question is a woman, suddenly the comparison is insulting? Why?
It is funny, though, that the same group who regularly accuses the Left of being “too PC” about language is suddenly all over this one. If Limbaugh had made the remark, we’d all be hearing about how it was “humor” and that anyone criticizing him should lighten up.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:11 pmIt doesn’t stop you. You’ve been called for trolling repeatedly and yet you continue.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:11 pmIt’s Boney’s tan that draws people to him. It’s a very healthy looking.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:12 pmThere never was any intention on the part of the repiggies to offer any palliative whatsoever to the public.
The repiggies only care about the health of the health-insurance fat cats.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:20 pmIf they do present a plan, I expect it will be an empty folder, just like their budget.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:20 pmCarrots are healthy looking. It doesn’t work for Boenher.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:22 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
It’s been on line for over a week, you goat raping hick, and yet you were whining yesterday that Dems haven’t posted the bill. You’re a such a waste of human skin.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:23 pmI vote down on backup. He lacks balls.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:34 pmDoug you worthless punkass troll just STFU. You are too stupid to be wasting the time of the adults here
October 29th, 2009 at 3:40 pmbackup says:
Misbehave all you want. Just don’t judge others when they exhibit similar behavior.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Thanks b-cup, I was waiting for your permission. Robertson is a whore, Lanzo is a racist, and you are an apologist for racists and bigots. I calls ‘em as I sees ‘em.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:43 pmI like you Gene, you HAVE balls!
October 29th, 2009 at 3:46 pmwere’nt these the same whiny beyotches screaming about the need for transparency and the posting of bills online for constituents to see? clearly, not when your bills show your lips firmly wrap around corporations balls.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:46 pmWho is most guilty of this? Why are you talking to us about it?
You’re sense of justice seems to have extra weights pre-added to the right side.
I’m not saying you’re biased and partisan, there’s just a danger of going down that road.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:48 pmbackup says:
gummitch. you’re right about the right’s reaction to similar occurrences.
But, doesn’t it seem like there needs to be a standard?
You may not agree with Robertson, but she is a woman. Is it okay to call her a ‘whore’ or not?
Similarily, you may not agree with President Obama, but he is a black man. Are the stereotypical characterizations and derogatory insults okay or not?
Which way is it going to be?
Whore: 3 : a venal or unscrupulous person
What parallel term for a black man did you have in mind, that has a comparable definition?
October 29th, 2009 at 3:49 pmA bar owner in Atlanta has a sign calling President Obama a ‘half-breed’.
According to this definition, he’s technically correct:
It generated this thread at TP:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/13/bar-owner-racist-sign/
I think characterizing President Obama as a ‘half breed’ is offensive. Regardless of whether someone makes the case that it could be technically correct. It just is offensive. I’m sure most here would agree.
Similarly, I also think calling a woman a whore is offensive, regardless of whether someone here can justify it by pointing to an alternative definition.
People misspeak all the time. Grayson apologized for a reason. Because it was the right thing to do.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:49 pmDoug Hoffman says:
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I like you Gene, you HAVE balls!
October 29th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Thank you …………………………Jeff Gannon
October 29th, 2009 at 3:51 pmbackup says:
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October 29th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Unless your entire family tree is “pure” , can’t you make that same claim/argument , about everyone and anyone ?
Why is it so stringently applicable to our SITTING PRESIDENT , ALONE ?????????????????
October 29th, 2009 at 3:54 pmbackup: Similarly, I also think calling a woman a whore is offensive, regardless of whether someone here can justify it by pointing to an alternative definition.
So I take it this means you could not find an equivalent instance? I didn’t think you could.
Grayson did not call her a whore, anyway. He called her a “K Street whore”; if you don’t know what that reference is to, look it up.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:56 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Doug
FOAD PUNK
October 29th, 2009 at 3:59 pmThe Republican health care plan IS on line, you know when your computer can’t find an website and you get that “Page not Found” message…. thats it.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:59 pmFrom CBN.com:
The word “occult” means “secret.” The danger of Halloween is not in the scary things we see but in the secret, wicked, cruel activities that go on behind the scenes. These activities include:
• Sex with demons
• Orgies between animals and humans
• Animal and human sacrifices
• Sacrificing babies to shed innocent blood
• Rape and molestation of adults, children and babies
• Revel nights
• Conjuring of demons and casting of spells
• Release of “time-released” curses against the innocent and the ignorant.
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Point number two has me really worried.
October 29th, 2009 at 4:00 pmWhat’s cbn? Some kind of ethical group? Like the ones that supported the Iraq war and torture?
October 29th, 2009 at 4:04 pmDoug you MORON CBN isnt a credible source for what day of the week it is. The word occult doesnt MEAN secret. It means hidden from view. It is from the astronomical term occultation which is like when the moon passes in front of a star and makes it OCCULT. So STFU. You are an ignorant troll wasting the time of adults trying to have an adult conversation you are ALWAYS going to be too stupid to contribute to
October 29th, 2009 at 4:07 pmFred, I think you’re confusing “war and torture” with satanism. They’re completely different.
October 29th, 2009 at 4:08 pmDoug Hoffman, so cbn is satanists?
October 29th, 2009 at 4:10 pmGene I see your point. But if we’re going to move into a new millennium of what I call “Arch-o-Conservatism” then you’re going to have to start looking at things the way backup does. In other words “pretend” this but “do” that. Ok?
October 29th, 2009 at 4:13 pmFred, goodness no! Are you teasing me?
October 29th, 2009 at 4:14 pmEugeneDebs says:
I think you and Fred are taking Doug Hoffman too seriously. You’re missing the joke.
October 29th, 2009 at 4:15 pmbackup says:
Similarly, I also think calling a woman a whore is offensive, regardless of whether someone here can justify it by pointing to an alternative definition.
October 29th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
I find it offensive that you think only women can be whores. Or that you find calling someone a whore is offensive only when it’s directed at a woman.
I baited a sexist trap with the word “whore,” and you just got your neck snapped.
October 29th, 2009 at 4:20 pmWhen you release your ideas, will it be like your budget release or will it have, like, numbers and words ?
October 29th, 2009 at 4:20 pmDoug Hoffman,
October 29th, 2009 at 4:22 pmI wonder if I could trouble you to tell me what the relationship between All Hallows Eve and All Saints Day is?
OT
October 29th, 2009 at 4:24 pmI am male. When I was a Teenager, I was one BIG F’N WHORE!
zooey: I find it offensive that you think only women can be whores. Or that you find calling someone a whore is offensive only when it’s directed at a woman.
Which was my original point; why is it only offensive if it’s a woman? I guess they need to be protected, poor little things.
October 29th, 2009 at 4:24 pmgummble-bee-itch says:
Which was my original point; why is it only offensive if it’s a woman? I guess they need to be protected, poor little things.
October 29th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
I guess I should stop skipping over your comments. :P
October 29th, 2009 at 4:28 pmNo, it’s pretty applicable.
Here’s a couple of competing definitions for ‘whore’:
– prostitute: a woman who engages in sexual intercourse for money
– compromise oneself for money or other gains
And here’s a couple of competing definitions for ‘half breed’:
– an offensive term for an offspring of parents of different races
– a person who has parents of at least two different nationalities
If you condone Grayson’s ‘whore’ remarked based on the availability of definitions, do you also condone the bar owner’s ‘half breed’ sentiment based on the available of competing definitions?
This is simple and Grayson understands it. It was wrong to refer to Robertson as a K Street Whore. As wrong as it was calling President Obama a ‘half breed’.
October 29th, 2009 at 4:29 pmgrumblebee
I dont think I am missing the joke. I think the joke he is trying to have is at our expense. He is screwing with us. Trying to push our buttons. He is pure troll and I have nothing but contempt for him
October 29th, 2009 at 4:31 pmgummitch is right about Doug Hoffman.
October 29th, 2009 at 4:35 pmbackup – definition of whore can be male or female and selling oneself for gain or services. Well, in this case she was a lobbyist for Enron which precluded Maddoff in taking millions from working people. So, I think the definition was correct. And, as a newbie Grayson still is Captain Cojones in my book. The corruption hasn’t gotten him yet.
Also, can anyone else say take away Anti Trust Exemption from the insurance companies ? How many other companies get to control the areas they market too ? Don’t know about you but our premiums just went up AGAIN.
October 29th, 2009 at 4:39 pmAs most offensive comment, no one can beat limbaugh’s “bend over and grab your ankles.” Or his rendition of magic negro. It really makes me sick that so many listen to that bag of garbage. What happened to Americans values.
October 29th, 2009 at 4:41 pmtexaslady. We should not let partisan sympathies be the basis for what behavior we will condone; for this reason.
If people cheer Grayson’s ‘whore’ comment, the next opportune time opposition wants to tear down a female politician or civil servant over policy – they can slur her as a ‘whore’, with the Grayson comment as justification.
It’s similar to the hit our collective civility has taken since the Joe Wilson ‘You lie’ spectacle:
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/28/gonzales-you-lie/
Grayson has handled this the right way. He got fired up and misspoke. Then he apologized, because he realized it was the wrong thing to say:
Grayson is right, those who think his whore comment was appropriate; are not.
October 29th, 2009 at 4:51 pminstead of since, that should have been, “because of the Joe Wilson ‘You lie’ spectacle”
October 29th, 2009 at 4:54 pmNope, not even close. joe was wrong in substance and location.
Greyson was right in substance. The only thing offensive other than that was the actual word “whore”.
You have defined it yourself. these people are whores. Obama did not lie. Go f uck yourself or tell the republicans you have a problem with their crap.
October 29th, 2009 at 4:57 pmbackup,
STOP DIGGING!
October 29th, 2009 at 4:58 pmThe word whore is not just female, it is anyone that sells itself to the highest bidder. Right now, I consider libermann, mcconnell, rove, evan byah, max baucus, ben nelson, it goes on and on. They dance to the tune of the ones that pay the most and backup you and all of America are being sold out, wake up.
October 29th, 2009 at 5:06 pmLike it or not the 1960’s were the last great generation. At least they had the backbone to march, scream and demand change. Americans have become fat, lazy and prefer to listen to whatever their preacher, commentator tells them instead of reading and checking facts.
October 29th, 2009 at 5:10 pmGrayson should stand by his words and tell those questioning to look up the definition and see if she doesn’t fit.
October 29th, 2009 at 5:13 pmFred.
I agree with you here. I’m not disagreeing on the substance of what he said, only that he used the word ‘whore’.
Some people are saying that using ‘whore’ was appropriate. I disagree with that.
October 29th, 2009 at 5:17 pmThe GOP plan is already in existence. The only change they want is a mandated 40 million new victims to be sentenced to health insurance hell.
October 29th, 2009 at 5:28 pmbackup says:
October 29th, 2009 at 5:57 pm“Some people are saying that using ‘whore’ was appropriate. I disagree with that.”
We got that backup, 80+ posts ago…
Is there something about this word that really has your corset cinched to tight?
noseeum. I’ll give it up.
October 29th, 2009 at 6:03 pmGrayson is right, those who think his whore comment was appropriate; are not.
So, you think just because she’s a woman, the term should be off limits? A feminist would argue that you’re patronizing women in general, when you declare that a person who acts like a prostitute, can’t be called one, simple because of her gender. They seem to think women are strong enough to take insults that aren’t gender-specific. Funny, huh? Perhaps if he’d simply called her a K Street prostitute, you wouldn’t be so offended.
October 29th, 2009 at 6:18 pmRandomChaos says:
Doug Hoffman,
I wonder if I could trouble you to tell me what the relationship between All Hallows Eve and All Saints Day is?
October 29th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Random, let’s not split hairs here, evil is evil. I’m not for banning Halloween per se, but, when I’m elected, I will repeal it. And you may thank God for that!
October 29th, 2009 at 6:19 pmI’m not for banning Halloween per se, but, when I’m elected, I will repeal it. And you may thank God for that!
It’s not a real holiday, so thanking a nonexistent entity for it’s repeal is hyper-goofy.
Or is that your schtick?
October 29th, 2009 at 6:32 pmThe big Boner is an automaton for the Health Insurance Industry. Of course there isn’t a republican health reform plan unless it allows for the health (or is it wealth care?)insurance’s increase of profit over health care.
Every industry is entitled to make a profit, but blatant greed is another thing.
October 29th, 2009 at 6:49 pmDH thinks he is a Pope?
October 29th, 2009 at 7:13 pmLOL
Zooey and barfly. You’re right. I thought about the idea of singling out the derogatory nature of the term ‘whore’ to just women and that could be considered patronizing. I, do however, think you could make the argument that the term is offensive when it’s applied to a man.
I found this video. I find it offensive, but I’m offering it up as an example of a male being called a whore. Obviously, it’s up to each individual to decide if it’s offensive or not. (Even if you don’t find it offensive, it would be hard to describe it as enlightened):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCoOkVy-6Wc
It’s a free country. Anybody can call anybody a whore. Whether it’s used against a man or a woman, I still think the term is offensive and we’d probably be better off using something else.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:31 pmb-crap, shut up you stupid whore.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:36 pmyou’re bold.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:55 pmbackup says:
you’re bold.
you’re whiny and pathetic.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:19 pmBOHNER: We have a number of ideas that we would like to proffer in this process…
…And those ideas are Tort Reform and less regulation on the Insurance Industry.
BOHNER: And so until we understand how they intend to proceed, it’s pretty difficult for us to have a solid plan.
Our ‘plan’ is more gaseous than solid or liquid in form.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:28 pmMaybe it’s just me, but I see a lot more STFU’s, MORONs, CAPSLOLs in general, and ad hominem attacks on this website than any conservative website I’ve ever been to. News flash: those things are neither witty (unless you’re 12) nor convincing.
I’ve also noticed that if anybody posts views contrary to those expressed in the articles here they are immediately voted down and attacked with zealous fervor. Almost as if they are a heretic in the view of the temple of liberalism. If you don’t want to have a dialogue with people who disagree with you why post at all? Is a one sided political discussion truly that appealing? Do you have the need for an echo chamber of ideas you already hold? If your views are sound you shouldn’t. If you do… you might just want to take a few steps back and rethink your position.
I am not a Republican or a Democrat. I am also not a fan of the government. Why some people seem to put so much faith in it eludes me. Do you really trust the government to handle things better than for-profit companies? At least to turn a profit you must be efficient and make your customers happy. Last time I checked, the evil health insurers made around 2-3% profit, not exactly a consumer rape fest. Oh and on that note… Medicare has a claim denial rate of over 9% whereas the highest denial rate for a private insurer is just over 4%. Does the government still sound so benevolent?
I’ll not tell any of you what you should think or insult you if you disagree with me. I do, however, urge you to scrutinize your own political beliefs. If nothing else, it will only strengthen your original position. I have a feeling, though, that if you do a bit of digging beyond what the right and left throw at you, the things that are going down in the White House right now would scare the sh1t out of you.
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:34 am