Americans trust Obama and Democrats more than Republicans on health care.
By on Oct 30th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Americans trust Obama and Democrats more than Republicans on health care.
A Gallup Poll out this week shows that 55 percent of Americans trust President Obama “when it comes to making changes in the health care system.” While 48 percent said they trusted Democrats in Congress on health care, only 37 percent trust the Republicans:
Matt Yglesias observes that “this sort of result tends not to support the idea that breaking with congressional Democrats to join congressional Republicans in a filibuster of Obama’s signature health initiatives would be a political winner.”
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Well of course they do. Repugs don’t want to do anything about Health Care. For months they were touting their plan, the problem is, they don’t friggin have one. They are literally the party of NO.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:29 pmHeh. The Republican Health Care plan is a blank and devoid of any ideas (except tax cuts for corporations and tort reform) as the blank sheet of paper they held up in Obama’s Joint session of Congress’s speech…
October 30th, 2009 at 1:32 pmShould read “as blank as”….not “a blank as”
October 30th, 2009 at 1:33 pmWould you trust the Republicans? They are best friends with the insurance companies.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:36 pmThis should come as no surprise.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:36 pmThe G-NO-P has obstructed, delayed, denied, and otherwise hindered progress in every arena of issues facing Obama and the Democrats.
Despite the media favoritism toward the sensationalism, the division, and the conservative viewpoint the public seems to have shorthanded their own mental notes on this and the repugs don’t come out looking too good.
Looks like some Democrats need to do a bit better, and given the differential between the President and the Republipimps, the Congressional Democrats need to move closer to what they understand the President’s position to be.
OTOH, keep it up, Republipimps. You’re headed in the right direction and it’s downhill all the way. We’ll send a meat wagon out after you hit bottom and crater. Maybe. Letting the wreckage stink for a while might be a good example for others.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:37 pmAnd this is supposed to surprise people?
It’s not so much that the American public have by and large rejected the GOP strategy to reform healthcare. It’s that since the Republican Revolution of 94, the GOP has done NOTHING AT ALL to improve the healthcare system, in fact, weakening it further through rampant deregulation and the crock of shit that is Medicare Part D.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:39 pmSome of the callous, cold-hearted and disinterested responses from repugs that were reported in the news demonstrated the disregard repugs have for the health of the general public and the lack of concern they feel for the needs of their constituents.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:40 pmWe can only imagine what indifference toward humanity was demonstrated by repugs that did not make the news reports.
The tactics that helped the Republicans block health reform in 1994 is definitely backfiring on them. Obviously, the key differences is that Obama, unlike Clinton, wasn’t – and isn’t – offering a fully socialized system that everyone would eventually have to sign up for at some point. Not only that, but times have changed. A lot of people are out of work or are being underrepresented in health care, the exemptions given to the insurance companies are being used and abused, and many Republicans themselves have shown themselves to just not care about what is going on with their constituents – instead using lobbyists and their attack dogs to try and force an “us or them” mentality on the voters. Unfortunately for Republicans, a lot of the people they are trying to hoodwink have been burned by the insurance companies that the Republicans are supporting.
With all that happening right in front of our eyes, is it any wonder why what worked in 1994 is failing specactularly in 2009?
October 30th, 2009 at 1:44 pmGo to Brad Blog and watch the Tea baggers Express II if you want to see who the 37%ers are.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:44 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Repiggies lie.
Everyone knows this, even their repiggie supporters.
They lied our nation into a terrible mess in Iraq, and they continue to lie about the reasons for it.
CroxNews lies on a minute-by-minute basis, shamelessly and without apology.
Who would you trust?
The crowd that just keeps lying and lying?
October 30th, 2009 at 1:47 pmYou mean saying “NO” over and over again isn’t a plan?
October 30th, 2009 at 1:47 pmWell I imagine most intelligent people would be against health care reform which consists of don’t get sick and if you do, die quickly.
By looking at the high poll number results of the ‘Not so much’ voters, you can only come to the conclusion that a lot of unintelligent people and perhaps some connected with the health insurance industry participated in this poll.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:53 pmeven a drooling troll can tell you that.
October 30th, 2009 at 1:54 pmWhere’s the poll that shows the American public’s confidence that the unregulated health insurance industry won’t screw us to make an incremental buck?
October 30th, 2009 at 1:59 pmraynman says:
You mean saying “NO” over and over again isn’t a plan?
October 30th, 2009 at 1:59 pm—————————————————————
I suspect that in the beginning the gNOp thought “NO” would be a great plan. Of course after the bailouts and “march” to socialism the party of “NO” is just pandering to the extreme anti government base that has taken over their party. But they know and fear that if Obama passes a strong health care reform bill and his policies begin to start helping the economy and the American people see this, the party of “NO” will truly become the party of no future
Sang By Loretta Lynn and Conway Twitty
guess who Dug HoffnPoff ripped off for his lyrics.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:00 pmSongwriters: Bobby Bare, Boyce Hawkins
Release Date: 2002.09.03
Oops, I sit corrected…
Hey, Doug! it’s called giving attribution…
October 30th, 2009 at 2:02 pmRU, wrong! It’s Glenn Beck and Michele Bachmann.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:13 pmDoug, I see your song and raise you.
HEARTLAND (Bob Dylan and Willie Nelson)
© 1992, Special Rider Music (ASCAP) / Fred Mann (BMI)
Lyrics as reprinted in liner-notes to Willie Nelson’s “Across the Borderline” (SONY/COLUMBIA 472942 2, 1993)
There’s a home place under fire tonight in the heartland,
And the bankers are takin’ my home and my land from me.
There’s a big achin’ hole in my chest now where my heart was,
And a hole in the sky where God used to be.
There’s a home place under fire tonight in the heartland,
There’s a well with water so bitter nobody can drink.
Ain’t no way to get high and my mouth is so dry that I can’t speak.
Don’t they know that I’m dyin’, why nobody cryin’ for me?
My American dream
Fell apart at the seams.
You tell me what it means,
You tell me what it means.
There’s a home place under fire tonight in the heartland,
The bankers are takin’ my home and my land away.
There’s a young boy closin’ his eyes tonight in the heartland
Who will wake up a man with a home and a loan he can’t pay.
His American dream
Fell apart at the seams.
You tell me what it means,
You tell me what it means.
My American dream
Fell apart at the seams.
You tell me what it means,
You tell me what it means.
There’s a home place under fire tonight in the heartland….
October 30th, 2009 at 2:17 pmThis really isn’t news — ever since the new president and the new congress started working on this important issue polls have consistently indicated people have more faith in President Obama and the Democrats than they do in the nay-saying Republicans.
Polls have fluctuated a few percentage points over the months (the GOP picked up a couple of points during the August town halls, for example), but the Republicans have never enjoyed majority support from the people on health care reform. Despite all their tricks and soundbites — death panels, kill granny, government takeover, socialism, tenth amendment, abortions going wild, premiums going up, taxes going up, rationing of health care, Soviet Union, etc. etc. — they haven’t been able to change the will of the people. Because nothing is scarier to Americans than the health care nightmare they’re already living.
The Democrats in Congress need to recognize this and act accordingly.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:17 pmTrust Republicans? I wouldn’t leave a child alone with a Republican.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:21 pmDoes anyone trust either at this point…seriously. Corporations run the show..the political system in this country is fail.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:25 pm- – Unfortunately, Ezra Klein has some bad news on the public option costs:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2009/10/wil_lthe_public_plan_have_high.html
October 30th, 2009 at 2:25 pmDepends on the child Perry. The republican may learn something.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:25 pmAnyone who trusts a Republican is a fool.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:44 pmWhich party people trust over health care doesn’t mean folks want government health care. Especially women.
I think if the Democrats force a government plan when folks clearly don’t want it, this could be the end of the Democratic Party as we know it.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:45 pmMichele Bachmann on the government health care takeover.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:47 pmAn Obama lie or broken promise? Your taxes won’t go up by one single dime.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:49 pmGood god marwick, you really are a dim bulb. First you throw up Lord Monckton as a climate expert and now you give us bat shit crazy Bachmann as a expert on health care. You really need to go back to school and try learning something.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:53 pmYou really are stupid. Obama hasn’t even gotten a bill on his desk yet. Since he has seen nothing from congress, please tell me how he has lied or broken a promise yet? What health care bill has he signed that has raised taxes? Come on smart guy, name one.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:58 pmYou can download and read the bill for yourself here.
Page 94—Section 202(c) prohibits the sale of private health insurance policies, beginning in 2013, forcing individuals to purchase coverage through the federal government.
Page 110—Section 222(e) requires the use of federal dollars to fund abortions through the government-run health plan—and, if the Hyde Amendment were ever not renewed, would require the plan to fund elective abortions.
Page 225—Section 330 permits—but does not require—Members of Congress to enroll in government-run health care.
Page 297—Section 501 imposes a 2.5 percent tax on all individuals who do not purchase “bureaucrat-approved” health insurance—the tax would apply on individuals with incomes under $250,000, thus breaking a central promise of then-Senator Obama’s presidential campaign.
Page 1174—Section 1802(b) includes provisions entitled “TAXES ON CERTAIN INSURANCE POLICIES” to fund comparative effectiveness research, breaking Speaker Pelosi’s promise that “We will not be taxing [health] benefits in any bill that passes the House,” and the President’s promise not to raise taxes on families with incomes under $250,000.
Page 313—Section 512 imposes an 8 percent “tax on jobs” for firms that cannot afford to purchase “bureaucrat-approved” health coverage.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:02 pmWhat really bothers me is that so-called interviews looking for facts are now only chances to spout talking points.
You ask one side about their chances, and the answer MUST be that the people of American have expressed strongly their desire for their side.
Kind of like rooting for the home team even though it hasn’t won a game in 3 seasons.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:10 pmOnce again marwick, that’s the bill that is going to the floor of the house were it will be debated. There will then be a final bill, which may or may not have any of this in the final bill. Then it will go to conference and will get worked out with whatever the Senate passes, and then and only then will a final bill go to the President to sign or veto.
You really don’t know much about how things work do ya? So I ask you once again, what bill has the President signed that has raised taxes?
October 30th, 2009 at 3:11 pmThe Insanity of the House Bill:
More at the link. Great analysis.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:15 pmPage 94—Section 202(c) prohibits the sale of private health insurance policies, beginning in 2013, forcing individuals to purchase coverage through the federal government.
You don’t know how to read a government bill, do you, Marwick? There is nothing on page 94 that says anything of the sort. It’s not saying you can’t buy private health insurance, it’s saying you can keep your insurance, but that you can’t take both the public and private insurance without a plausible exception. Likewise your insurance company can’t boot you out or limit your coverage because you have public benefits.
There’s nothing that says anything about the year 2013, or losing your insurance in that year, in that section.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:15 pmFrom Kimberly Strassel:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
marwick says:
Michele Bachmann on the government health care takeover.
Is that the same woman working to defund liberal organizations? You and the rest of the GOP should be sent to jail on racketeering charges using RICO!
http://rawstory.com/2009/10/conservatives-25year-goal-defunding-left-revealed-acorn-controversy/
October 30th, 2009 at 3:20 pmMarwick…Still waiting for you to backup your post that Obama has lied or broke his promise about raising taxes. You come here and throw charges out, but don’t have the balls to back them up or say your wrong. What a pussy.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:21 pmmarwick says:
Which party people trust over health care doesn’t mean folks want government health care. Especially women.
LOL! Are you really that retarded? That article refers to whether people would “personally” want a premium health care service, or a basic one provided by the government. It doesn’t mean the majority doesn’t want the “option”!!!!
LOL! You republicans are as dumb as dog sh!t and you stink up the room just as bad! LOL!
October 30th, 2009 at 3:22 pmHouse plan a nightmare for Main Street middle-class families:
October 30th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
marwick says:
The Insanity of the House Bill:
More at the link. Great analysis.
The “national review” does great analysis? LOL! That would be a first!
Is this the winning magazine that touted WMDs in Iraq, and that Iraqis would greet us with flowers? LOL!
Yeah, the intellectual “giants” over there are a great source of “analysis”!!! LOL! LOL! LOL!!
Thanks marwick for showing why the GOP is so out of touch these days! That was priceless! LOL! ;)
October 30th, 2009 at 3:24 pmmarwick says:
House plan a nightmare for Main Street middle-class families:
Kaiser Health News’ Julie Appleby reported Thursday that, despite claims the bill will limit what those in the lower and middle income groups will pay for health insurance, “The fine print shows that, over time, the premium costs could rise well beyond those caps.”
The reason for this, Appleby explains, is “the cost of coverage would shift from a percentage of income to a percentage of the premium, no matter how high the premiums go.” This will be a big, unpleasant surprise for the working middle class.
LOL! If that were true, then insurance companies would be thrilled – being the cheaper option.
More scare mongering from right wing lobbyists that want to gouge America.
Insurance companies have no credibility, and you and the rest of the GOP have even less… ZZZZzzz… You’re proven liars.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:26 pmGod, now the stupid troll is quoting Kaiser on the house bill. Marwick, do you get paid by the health insurance companies?
October 30th, 2009 at 3:27 pmmarwick says:
Page 94—Section 202(c) prohibits the sale of private health insurance policies, beginning in 2013, forcing individuals to purchase coverage through the federal government.
That’s a lie, that’s not what that says.
And your plagiarism is pathetic – loser!
Why do you conservatives all insist on “lying” when it’s so easy to prove you’re liars? Are you pathological, or just too stupid to realize you’ll get caught?
October 30th, 2009 at 3:28 pmangels81 says:
God, now the stupid troll is quoting Kaiser on the house bill. Marwick, do you get paid by the health insurance companies?
Most of the trolls are clearly part of, the libertarian Ron Paul lunatic fringe, the NeoCon fringe, or the Heritage/CRC lunatic crowd. Most of them are probably either interns or retirees based on how out of touch and uninformed they are.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:29 pmMarwick is just a idiot. He doesn’t even know how a bill moves threw congress and ends up on the Presidents desk.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:31 pmANGELS81 and JUST THE BLEEPIN FACTS
After reading Marwick’s stupid posts, you each have done a fine job of pointing out that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
He doesn’t understand the legislative process, and he simply repeats what he hears from his rightwing sources.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:40 pmI think Marwick had to leave. Posting so much stupid in one day wore his pea brain out.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:42 pmangels81 says:
I think Marwick had to leave. Posting so much stupid in one day wore his pea brain out.
These same posts are all over the web.
Probably some idiot retiree who’s willing to be a useful idiot for the vast right wing conspiracy that’s spent the last 25 years trying to shut down liberal organizations such as Think Progress.
http://rawstory.com/2009/10/conservatives-25year-goal-defunding-left-revealed-acorn-controversy/
October 30th, 2009 at 3:46 pmObama wins another award!
October 30th, 2009 at 3:57 pmMore on the House health bill:
October 30th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
marwick says:
Obama wins another award!
Republicans continue to be unpatriotic d**chebag terrorists.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:05 pmmarwick says:
More on the House health bill:
The latest health-care bill, offered by Speaker Nancy Pelosi, is more of the same.
Effective and competent? LOL! You right wing extremists hate competence don’t you – d**chebag? ;)
October 30th, 2009 at 4:06 pmmarwick says:
The Democrats’ approach to health care remains unpopular. What seems most inevitable is that sooner or later they will pay for it.
Putting a “lie” in a block quote doesn’t make it true! Did you “notice” the header of this poll that says the “Democrats” approach is much more popular than the “Republican”? LOL! You people lie so much that you start believing your own b*llsh!t don’t you p*ssy?
October 30th, 2009 at 4:07 pmmarwick says:
All of the Democratic bills are likely to increase premiums.
What does “likely” mean? That’s code word for Republicans continuing to make sh!t up and pretending it’s true to “scare” people.
The “public option” is “likely” to decrease premiums for “all” Americans, thereby undermining profits and causing the sort of propaganda lies you’re spewing to be put out by the insurance industry. ZZzzzz…
October 30th, 2009 at 4:09 pmmarwick is a republican “bot”. Report her spam.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:11 pmImpact of the House health plan on insurance provided by your employer:
I have news for Knight Carbide, once the government discovers that 8% penalty doesn’t come close to covering the costs of government health care, the percentage will rise significantly.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:13 pmThe interesting part of this is that 37% of those polled are “likely Republican voters”. That tells me that no one outside the stupidest block of voters trusts the GOoPers.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:49 pmIt appears the stupid troll shuns all sources that are not “politically pure”. Garbage in=garbage out.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:51 pmMarwick, you still haven’t told us what bill has Obama signed that raises taxes. If he hasn’t signed anything yet, how has he lied or broken his promise? Are you really just some dumb f**k troll who can’t backup your own words?
October 30th, 2009 at 4:54 pmMarwick, you keep posting parts of the house bill that came out of committee. You do understand that this is a committee bill that now goes to the floor of house were it will be debated and amended? The final bill that comes out of the house may not have any of the shit you have been posting as if it was sealed in cement.
Did you make threw high school? You really don’t understand how our government works do ya?
October 30th, 2009 at 5:00 pmmarwick says:
Impact of the House health plan on insurance provided by your employer:
A majority of local companies responding to a Macomb Daily survey stated they would drop their existing employee health insurance coverage, or avoid offering future health care benefits, if legislation pending in the U.S. House of Representatives passes.
So republicans are threatening blackmail?
Thanks for proving why an employer mandate is required to keep GOP *ssh*les from denying health care to workers.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:08 pmmarwick says:
I have news for Knight Carbide, once the government discovers that 8% penalty doesn’t come close to covering the costs of government health care, the percentage will rise significantly.
And their employees would get coverage for less.
Sounds like a win-win, don’t you think – d**chebag? LOL! ;)
October 30th, 2009 at 5:10 pmWithout the link provided for this article, it would be hard to find these poll results on the Gallup web site. It’s buried inside and toward the end of another article with the neutral-sounding title “Americans on Healthcare Reform: Five Key Realities”.
I’ve noticed that Gallup articles on polls regarding the president tend to be negative, and sometimes they really reach for a negative spin, such as an article about how Obama’s drop in popularity from the 3rd to 4th quarters was “unprecedented.” (How about the drop or increase from the 1st to 2nd or 2nd to 3rd?) If his poll numbers drop during a full moon in a month with an R in it,they’ll probably write about how unprecedented that is, too.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:23 pmDon’t libs just cry for minority rights. Well, how about on this issue?
October 30th, 2009 at 6:13 pmHey Mr Puke, we cry for you too. We are sad to see the brainless wander around not knowing what the f**k is up.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:23 pmMr.Duke says:
Don’t libs just cry for minority rights. Well, how about on this issue?
Don’t cons just cry and whine about being victims while victimizing others? Well how about you, are you another b**chy bigot patsy?
October 30th, 2009 at 8:20 pmHopefully that trust isn’t misplaced and Obama and the Democrats will ram through a strong public option. And what is this crap about no changes for 4 years? Please tell me that’s just a talking head talking out his a$$!
October 31st, 2009 at 2:03 amIf you want to hear the truth listen to what Dennis Kucinich said about the health care reform and the last minute sell out by the Democrats to the insurance industry.
I wish Kucinich was our President, but then again good men don’t get into the White House, at least not since President Kennedy.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:56 pm