Kristol Says He Helped Congressional GOP Formulate ‘The Best Arguments Against’ Health Care Reform
Kristol Says He Helped Congressional GOP Formulate ‘The Best Arguments Against’ Health Care Reform
In Dec. 1993, Bill Kristol, a current Fox News contributor and the editor of the Weekly Standard, issued a now-infamous memo to Republican leaders, arguing that they should “defeat” President Clinton’s health care reform plan “outright” instead of negotiating a compromise. In later memos, Kristol counseled that Republicans should oppose reform “sight unseen” because “there is no health care crisis.” Kristol’s advice “animated” Republicans, who concluded “that all-out opposition to the Clinton plan” was “in their best political interest.”
Throughout this year’s debate over health care reform, Kristol has played a similar role, arguing in the media that Republicans should “kill” reform instead of trying to be “constructive.” In an interview on the Washington Times’ America’s Morning News radio show yesterday, Kristol revealed that he had met with some congressional Republicans on Wednesday night to devise strategy for defeating reform:
KRISTOL: Next week will really be a first crescendo in the big health care debate. And this dinner I was at last night was some Republican members, Senate and House, some staffers, some outside people, trying to think about how to, the best arguments against it and where the politics of this lies. She is really going for it. And I think the issue is Medicare. I mean this will be the largest package of Medicare cuts I think the Congress will ever have passed.
Later in the interview, Kristol distilled the conclusions from the strategy session with congressional Republicans, saying that citizens “need to go see their congressman and say ‘do not vote for this until either we have a chance to read it more carefully, but really more importantly just don’t vote for it because it’s going to cut my Medicare and raise my taxes.’” He echoes the same attack line in his Weekly Standard column today: “There will be no Republican votes for the Pelosi Plan of tax hikes and Medicare cuts. Will there be enough Democratic resistors so the bill is either withdrawn or defeated?.” Listen here:
For the past month, Fox has been claiming that it is not actually a “communications arm” for the Republicans. What do they think about one of their regular contributors advising Republicans on strategy behind closed doors? Will they disclose Kristol’s advisory role when he appears on the air?
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How these people sleep at night is beyond me. They KNOW thousands of people die a year without proper care. They KNOW that thousands of children die every year. These people are immoral, evil and downright frightning.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:35 pmRight, Bill. You also formulated the “best arguments” to vote for Bible Spice and that old geezer who foolishly allowed her to become a national political figure. How did that work out for you?
October 30th, 2009 at 4:39 pmP.D.
They actually sleep very well at night. Most are evangelical christians that fantasize about people “burning in hell”, so people suffering without proper health care is just another pleasant dream for them.
So much for christian “love”.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:40 pmI mean this will be the largest package of Medicare cuts I think the Congress will ever have passed.
Cutting what are basically subsidies to the corporate health insurance industry (through Medicare “Advantage” plans) is fine with me. It will strengthen the traditional/original Medicare program.
The lies and distortions continue. Kristol, you are scum, even pretending to care about Medicare or seniors. And thinking Americans know it.
http://mediamatters.org/research/200908250017
http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/08/will_health_reform_cut_medicare_benefits.php
October 30th, 2009 at 4:40 pmSo let me get this straight. Republicans are dead set against “government run healthcare” but will use the fear of cuts in Medicare “government run healthcare” as a weapon.
Great point in last paragraph on the conflict of Krystal.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:41 pmI know this is off topic, But the mayor in Maryland has refused to remove the hanging dummies! Unfriggin believable! I just can’t belive it.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:41 pmPerhaps there is somebody (Kristol) who deserves to be eaten slowly with cancer while watching the medical INDUSTRY eat his and his family’s savings so he can die a pauper.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:41 pmKristol Says He Helped Congressional GOP Formulate ‘The Best Arguments Against’ Health Care Reform
– - Oh, then it’s sure to pass.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:42 pmLefty@3, Yeah, what was I thinking? Just earlier we had a post about Pat Robertson. And we know how warm and fuzzy he is!
October 30th, 2009 at 4:43 pmWell, if Bill’s working so hard against health care reform by telling the GOP what to do, that pretty much tells us what we’ve known all along.
The GOP has NO plan of their own when it comes to health care reform.
Thanks, Mr. Boehner!
October 30th, 2009 at 4:44 pmP.D.
Pat Robertson is about as warm and fuzzy as a frozen Brillo pad!
October 30th, 2009 at 4:45 pmWow, with Kristol’s track record, it’s no wonder the Republicans used his wisdom…. or is that wis-dumb?
October 30th, 2009 at 4:45 pmAre Boner and Kristol dating now or just meetng in the men’s room?
October 30th, 2009 at 4:46 pmUm…where ARE these “best arguments”? So far, the only arguments I’ve heard against health care reform are outright lies (the government is going to take over our lives and we’ll be like the Soviet Union), conjecture designed to frighten (health care will be rationed and death panels will decide who lives and who dies), baseless fearmongering (your premiums and your taxes will skyrocket), or are just plain lame (a public option wouldn’t be fair to private insurance companies).
Seriously, has Kristol (or any other wingnut) come up with an argument that an average sixth-grader couldn’t debunk?
October 30th, 2009 at 4:49 pmAnd this dinner I was at last night was some Republican members, Senate and House, some staffers, some outside people, trying to think about how to, the best arguments against it and where the politics of this lies.
And they LISTENED to YOU? AH HA HA HA HA HA
October 30th, 2009 at 4:56 pmFrom what I can gather from across the pond, Kristol is consistently wrong about pretty much everything. If I were you, I’d actively encourage him to formulate arguments against healthcare reform.
October 30th, 2009 at 4:57 pmcut medicare and raise taxes?
from what I have heard, those married making 1 million per year, or those individually making $500,000 and higher per year will have a tax hike.
Isn’t the statement cutting medicare more fear mongering… something the GNOP does well?
October 30th, 2009 at 5:00 pmWow. It’s quiet. I guess everyone is making dinner.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:00 pmHuh? They have used the same basic plan since reform was killed back in Nixons time.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:04 pmWow. It’s quiet. I guess everyone is making dinner.
Nope. Roasting some pecans. 8^B
October 30th, 2009 at 5:05 pmThese thugs actually think killing a bill that would benefit millions is their salvation. Go figure. It may have worked before the internet but it will not work to their benefit in 2009. We will never forget the thugs and the party of no.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:07 pmfuzzy as a frozen Brillo pad!
Heh
October 30th, 2009 at 5:10 pmWaaaaay off topic.
A local Reichradio host is claiming that President Obama fired the pilots who overflew Minneapolis (a gross safety violation) and is “trying to take over the airlines the same as he took over Detroit and Wall Street”.
You just can’t argue with such dishonest, willful, stupidity.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:13 pmI caught a bit of The Office yesterday and they did the hanging dummie, well it was the boss fake hanging himself, but the employees were like ‘Whats wrong with you?’
October 30th, 2009 at 5:14 pmWill they disclose Kristol’s advisory role when he appears on the air?
I´m guessing no
October 30th, 2009 at 5:15 pmPresident Obama fired the pilots who overflew Minneapolis (a gross safety violation) and is “trying to take over the airlines the same as he took over Detroit and Wall Street”.
Pure lunacy. But some like the loony.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:16 pmAnd did you know that Reagan tried to take over the whole airline industry by firing the ATC?
October 30th, 2009 at 5:17 pmWow! The repug party had to ask Kristol to help them how to say NO. The brain power working in that party is awesome. These clowns couldn’t light a fire with 10 gallons of gasoline and a blow torch.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:18 pmI’d love to see Kristol go one on one with Grayson.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:20 pmangels@28, Yeah. It takes a lot of effort to form one friggin word. After all, the Repugs did nothing for the American people for the last 8 friggin years. Oh, except the wars, the deficit, the scorn of the World….
October 30th, 2009 at 5:22 pmIt’s quite simple:
GOP, when in power, they do whatever they want and use fear to get people to see it their way.
GOP, when not in power, they obstruct everything, and blame the other side using fear to get people to see their way. When things get tough obstructing everything, bring out basic fears such as teh gays, abortion, guns and ‘reverse racism’.
It’s a formula Billy Boy Krit0l and KKKKKarl Rove and FOOOXXXX Neeeewwwws use all the time.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:22 pmMath@29, Hell, I would PAY to see that.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:23 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
And this dinner I was at last night was some Republican members, Senate and House, some staffers, some outside people, trying to think, but we decided to just blow each other instead.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:26 pmI for one would like to encourage Republicans to continue to rely on Bill Kristol’s sound political advice for almost any issue they would like to say “NO” to.
Republicans, you can’t go wrong by the American people by following the sagacious counsel of one William “The Bloody” Kristol.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:26 pmheard john dingle say this, after the house presented their bill:
“The only people who have to worry about cuts to their medicare
payments are the insurance companies…”
pass it on.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:26 pmWe all took a vote and decided that you Kenney will have to pay for it. Hows that work for you? Works for us.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:27 pmBilly boy and few others i like to say
please dont die quickly die very slowly and painfully with the worst of cancers one can get. pleases have the health care drain your accounts and place your spouses in the poor house.
now that i can stand behind.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:29 pm@33, I really could give a sh*t how we will pay for it. It’s OK with sh*theads like you to support wars, but helping our own citizens is not important to as*es like you. You might be OK with THOUSANDS of our citizens dying, but I’m not.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:33 pmWho will pay for it? Those who benefit from it.
I bet the stupid troll doesn’t even realize that people on Medicare, like myself, pay a monthly premium.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:35 pmKenny would be the first one crying the blues if he found out he had cancer, and some pencil pusher cut off his insurance because it would cost them to much money. That’s the system he’s in love with, and he better hope like hell nothing happens to him or his family.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:37 pmSomtimes these trolls really piss me off. People are friggin DYING and NOW they are worried about how much this will cost! WTF?
October 30th, 2009 at 5:39 pmKenneth, I advise that you put it in the same concern file that you had when bush was throwing money away. We plan to spend it on Americans.
The sad part is that you aren’t smart enough to see that it will actually cost less than it does now. Honestly, how can it cost more?
Just because it’s not a govenment tax doesn’t mean it’s not taxing our pocketbooks. Look on it as an anti-tax measure. You should be able to get behind that.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:39 pmangels81 says:
We all took a vote and decided that you Kenney will have to pay for it. Hows that work for you? Works for us.
hes not bright enough to understand he`s paying now and it is more then what he would be paying went this passes.
but smarts are not the white wing wrong side party is all about.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:42 pmKenneth says:
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If healthcare passes in any form who in heck is going to pay for this bureaucratic boondoggle?
Who pays for Iraq and Afghanistan? Who pays for tax cuts for the rich? Are you really that stupid?
October 30th, 2009 at 5:47 pmRab@45, No, he is not. He’s know damn right well what he is saying, but he doesn’t give a sh*t. He is more than willing to send our troops into the meatgrinder and watch Americans die because of lack of Health care. He is a perfect definition of a Repug.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:50 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
i’m very surprised that last sunday’s 60 minutes report about medicare fraud has not made it to the discussions big time…
unless it made it so obvious that “medicare fraud” was actually perpetrated by false fronts, unscrupulous doctors and clinics…
the amounts ripped off from our government medicare program are dizzying…
October 30th, 2009 at 5:53 pm@47, Oh Please, How old is your neighbor? I think you are full of sh*t. And people ARE dying. I used to think you were annoying, know i know you are heartless and not worth any more of my time. Get Lost.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:55 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
If healthcare passes in any form who in heck is going to pay for this bureaucratic boondoggle?
It’s a hundred billion a year, for ten years. A pittance, compared to the money wasted in the republicans’ phony war.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:58 pmKenneth is a simple repug, doesn’t take much to fool him or get his outrage, he’s not smart enough to think about things in depth and that’s a main characteristic of repugs. They are really simple minded.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:59 pmOur troops are in the field right now fighting to protect your wimpy arses so that you have the freedom of speech to disagree and also to spew your progressive venom.
No, that would be the Constitution, that “piece of paper” you guys selectively honor.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:00 pmKenny, and who do you think is paying threw the nose for those trips to the hospital? You are paying you stupid troll, threw higher premiums. Also, if your buddy needs long term care and has no health insurance, he’s shit out of luck.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:01 pmLOL! The troll called us intellectuals. I guess to him, intellegence is a BAD thing! LOL! Now wonder why they liked Bush so much. The man was dumber than a bag of hammers.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:01 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Kenneth:
Don’t get me started on this one you intellectual wimps! Go serve your country and get back to me.
Thanks for validating my post on repugs and how simple minded they are.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:01 pmAND, you have this WIMPY President
Who doesn’t start bogus wars, to achieve a permanent political magority…
October 30th, 2009 at 6:02 pmOops, make that majority.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:02 pmKenny when are you going down to sign up and fight for your country? A good red blooded American like you should be dying to go get them terrorists, so let us know when you are shipping out.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:03 pm“And please show me some proof of these people dying as anyone can get treatment at any hospital emergency section.”
A 22-year-old woman from Oxford, Ohio, died from swine flu on Wednesday. Kimberly Young graduated from Miami University in December and continued to live in Oxford, Ohio, within Minority Leader John Boehner’s congressional distrct. Reports now indicate that after initially getting sick, Young put off treatment because she was uninsured:
October 30th, 2009 at 6:05 pmBarfly,
NO, that would be the troops protecting the Constitution as they did in World War I & II. Hadn’t we gone over and fought Germany you would be speaking German right now and being told to shut up or enter a concentration camp.
How did you serve your country in your lifetime or are you just reaping the benefits of us who did serve?
October 30th, 2009 at 6:07 pmangel@60, He wouldn’t dare. it’s easier to be a armchair warrior than a real one. He and Dick Cheney have a lot in common.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:08 pmKen knows that when Obama’s healthcare plan is successful, republicans will be as popular with voters as cod liver oil, and will be shunted even farther in the political wilderness than they now are.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:08 pmBoy, his best certainly is not very good.
I cannot think of a single cogent, well articulated criticism of health care reform made by anyone who is opposed.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:09 pmangels81,
October 30th, 2009 at 6:09 pmI wish I was younger again cause I would surely love to go over and kick some ass after what the enemy did on 9/11. What have you done for your country lately?
Barfly,
NO, that would be the troops protecting the Constitution as they did in World War I & II. Hadn’t we gone over and fought Germany you would be speaking German right now and being told to shut up or enter a concentration camp.
I can already speak german, scheiskopf. And the rest is just your Red Dawn fantasy.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:10 pmKenny, when are you going? America needs guys like you.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:10 pmKenneth thinks putting magnetic ribbons on your car is service to your country.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:11 pmKill this cluster f— 1,100 page bill …
October 30th, 2009 at 6:11 pmChickenhawk excuse # 3:
I wish I was younger again cause I would surely love to go over and kick some ass after what the enemy did on 9/11.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:11 pmDumb Question: anywhere in the interview did he use the logic of “don’t vote for this because it is bad for health” ?
All I ever hear is don’t vote for it because we want to make the dems look bad.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:12 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Mr.Duke says:
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Kill this cluster f— 1,100 page bill …
Hey repug, reading is fundamental
October 30th, 2009 at 6:12 pmKenneth says @50
1st of all you punk ass coward troll>>>>>>>>>> I have wore the uniform of this great country and yes i had to fight for you and all your ignorant chicken hawks so you can be stupid and un-patriotic and un-american.
2nd if you dont see you are paying for those free rides your neighbor is getting (and laughing at you ) then you truly need help.
i would feel sorry for you but i can not bring myself to. you are one sorry azz punk as troll
October 30th, 2009 at 6:13 pmMr.Duke says:
Kill this cluster f— 1,100 page bill …
Not going to happen. It sure sucks to be powerless, eh?
Heh, heh.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:13 pmThank you, stupid troll. You have confirmed, once again, the obvious fact that Reichwhiners have nothing but contempt for intellectuals. I suppose it’s only natural for you to belittle that which you can not have. Namely, a fully functional human brain capable of rational thought.
Since you have admitted that you are not equipped to have a real conversation? I suggest you go blow Bloody Bill. He’s looking a little squirrely and could use the release.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:13 pmChickenhawk excuse #2:
PD,
October 30th, 2009 at 6:14 pmI served in the military.
Kenny, I served this country, and paid in blood for it. Who the hell are you to belittle other people and question what they have done. What the hell have you done? I really don’t care, because its a BS question. One thing I will say…If your not a vet, shut your f**kin mouth about what other people have done.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:15 pmThat’s rich. A stupid troll, who dismisses his betters as “over educated”, asking for proof.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:16 pmPD,
I served in the military. So, what is your excuse? And, what have you done for your country except tear it down.
Ironic, on a thread about chickenhawk Kristol. Will Kenneth ask him the same question? Because Kristol has done much to put us in our current predicaments.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:17 pmKentroll needs to get the repug chickenhawk list and ask all those repug cowards why they didn’t serve their country.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:19 pmAnd just what is the frequency, Kenneth?
October 30th, 2009 at 6:20 pmI wonder if Kenny has asked the same question to Cheney and Rush?
October 30th, 2009 at 6:20 pmWant proof?
http://namesofthedead.com/
October 30th, 2009 at 6:20 pmKenneth seems to have faded – so I’m off, to prepare for a weekend camping trip. Have a good weekend TP’ers.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:23 pmKenneth: “I wish I was younger again cause I would surely love to go over and kick some ass after what the enemy did on 9/11.”
15 of them were from Saudi Arabia, a couple were from UAE, one from Jordan and one from Egypt, I think. Funding clearly came from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Would you attack Saudi Arabia, UAE or Pakistan?
October 30th, 2009 at 6:24 pmMr. Duke: “Kill this cluster f— 1,100 page bill …”
Riiiiight! Because the pathetic corporate tool says so…
October 30th, 2009 at 6:25 pmbarfly, have a great time camping, hope the weather is good for ya.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:26 pmBTW, stupid troll. Emergency rooms are great for treating acute illness and injury but they do nothing to treat chronic illness and injury.
They don’t treat mental illness. They don’t treat cancer. They don’t offer physical therapy. They don’t treat diabetes. They don’t treat heart disease. They don’t treat arthritis. They don’t treat asthma. And? I could go on for hours.
Also, assuming you have insurance, you are paying for your neighbor’s emergency room visits. Unless, of course, you are telling the truth about your alleged military service in which case you already have “socialized health care”.
I really can’t stress this enough. It’s just plain silly for uneducated little freaks to try and debate people who’s brain function exceeds the average potted plant. You’re WAY out of your league.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:27 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hey Kwsventures, are you stupid or what? Try staying on topic.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:30 pmYou can tell people were going to buy a car anyway by crunching numbers?
Really. So I take a bunch of numbers, mash them up, mix them around out comes what people were thinking, ‘Hey, I am going to buy a car soon’
Well, yeh, I have an old car and yanno, soon I should get another.
BTW I wasnt really supportive of the clunkers program I just wonder how some number crunchers came to that conclusion. did they break out the magic eight ball or whut.
And Ahnulds staff didnt mean for that veto to say: “If You See Kay You…”
October 30th, 2009 at 6:38 pmWell the little redhead is home. so its time for dinner. Keep smashing the trolls, and I’ll see everybody later.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:39 pmKenneth: “I wish I was younger again cause I would surely love to go over and kick some ass after what the enemy did on 9/11.”
Uh huh. You do recall that it was called Operation Iraqi Freedom so as to free the oppressed people, we were told, from a tyrannical dictator and not Operation Go Kick The Enemies Ass For 911?
And you do recall the tens of millions of dollars spent, under the previous admin to rebuild roads and mosques in Tikrit?
Yes, thats how GWB thought ass should be kicked.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:44 pmKenneth: “I wish I was younger again cause I would surely love to go over and kick some ass after what the enemy did on 9/11.”
Okay, we have pundits and politicians telling us that they dont want people to have health care, they dont much care about them I guess, but when 3000 people die on 911 its time to spend trillions and years in a foreign country kicking ass we went to go free.
Your a genius Kenneth.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:50 pmBilly K is against health care reform?
That is a sure sign we need health reform given that what is opposite of Krystol’s opinion is usually right. Especially given that he is (and his gang of Weakly Blandard idiots) is usually woefully wrong.
October 30th, 2009 at 7:00 pmJebus, I loathe these morons.
October 30th, 2009 at 7:18 pm“Kristol Says He Helped Congressional GOP Formulate ‘The Best Arguments Against’ Health Care Reform”
Scraping from the bottom of the scraps. The GOP has certainly hit rock bottom if they are that desperate to have Vampire Kristol to help with the GOP talking points against the healthcare reform. Guess that’s why the GOP won’t put their healthcare reform bill online. Keep it classy, GOP.
October 30th, 2009 at 7:42 pmkwsventures says:
More crappy economics from the white house:
That’s funny coming from the trickle down d**chebags that have destroyed the industrial base, created bubble financing and have economically trashed the country for 40 years! LOL! What fools you wingnuts are!
October 30th, 2009 at 8:18 pmkwsventures missed the 3.5% GDP growth last quarter! Why do republicans hate our country so much?
October 30th, 2009 at 8:19 pmKenneth @ 50,
I will take issue, comparing Bush to Obama. The term wimp applies to whom. Obama appears to have the tenacity of Clinton. Remember, full political body blows and they can still stand up, brush the dust off and keep going. That’s guts in my book.
The most vivid memory of Bush is jumping out of the fighter in a fake flight suit on a carrier. Our warrior president, who made all the brilliant war decisions to what end? Where did it get us? George Bush was a military genius in his own mind, and his advisories told him so daily.
I call the wimps when I see them, and Bush and the Republican don’t have the guts to take ownership for the last 8 years!
Don’t lecture me on wimps. You boy was a royal Fu$kup, and that is why you guys lost!!!!!!
October 30th, 2009 at 8:38 pmKristol is a psychopath. A death-mongering psychopath. And as such he represents the dominant wing of the ‘pukes perfectly.
October 30th, 2009 at 8:41 pmKristol and Bush both have that pathetic dumb ass grin. Do you think its because they know that their full of crap and they think their fooling people? Kristol has an agenda,and that is to keep pushing the repugs lies. Bush on the other hand was just one stupid SOB who had no clue as to what was going on around him. I would love to see bush and his dumb ass grin sitting at the defense table in a courtroom.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:22 pmhelped spread the most effective lies and slanders about health care reform, you mean. Why are The Evil so extraordinarily Proud of their actions?
October 30th, 2009 at 9:49 pmThe Republican lies had less to do with the death of real healthcare reform than the corporate bribes, I assure you.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:12 pmRodeskawler @ 106
October 30th, 2009 at 10:23 pmFrom my perspective, I thought it was one and the same.
Mr.Duke says:
Kill this cluster f— 1,100 page bill …
we wanted a bill that would fit on a single page – Single Payer.
but all the k-street insurance whores and pimps wouldn’t allow it…
and somehow, too many un/mis-informed rubes bought the lies,
giving their bought-off reps the impression that they actually
didn’t WANT health care and health insurance reform…
whodduthunkit.
October 30th, 2009 at 11:57 pmMr.Duke says:
Kill this cluster f— 1,100 page bill …
Why? So the for profit healthcare industry billionaire death panels can continue to decide who dies? What if you were one of the many who they denied coverage to because of a pre-existing condition? Do you want that?
Sure you do. So you want them to make you die quickly? Why do you hate America?
October 31st, 2009 at 12:25 amWhen Mr. Kristol and his cohorts eventually meet their Maker, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, Barry Goldwater, and all the other past Republicans will be waiting there to kick their asses.
October 31st, 2009 at 6:01 amBloody Bill Kristol: Notable liar and chickenhawk coward, waramongerer.
October 31st, 2009 at 12:38 pmThe “Kristol” ball of that charlatan always fails to predict correctly.
At least that clown is consistent – consistently wrong, that is.
October 31st, 2009 at 12:39 pmKenneth
You are flat out too stupid to be talking about this issue. The fact you dont seem to know the difference between being treated and realeased and healthcare shows all we need to know about what an ignorant brainwashed moron you are. Tens of THOUSANDS per year DIE from lack of access to healthcare and if you dont KNOW this you are far too ignorant and uninformed to keep wasting our time. Just STFU
October 31st, 2009 at 7:58 pmKristol will be on CSPAN washington journal monday morning 7:30 thru 8:15. I urge anyone who has the time, to call and let mr kristol know what you think of him.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:22 pmDemocrats:
(202) 737-0002
Independents:
(202) 628-0205
Outside U.S.:
(202) 628-0184
Email address:
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Twitter:
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here is a personal message to “kenneth” the status quo loving teabagger zealot…..
Why don’t you enlist to fight with the troops you say you value so much instead of whining about others and free speech…or are you another chicken hawk coward like your idol cheney. and ….
here’s proof of those dying due to lack of insurance. ER’s will not see you if you don’t have a chronic but deadly illness..and
Harvard Medical Study Links Lack of Insurance to 45,000 U.S. Deaths a Year
http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/17/harvard-medical-study-links-lack-of-insurance-to-45000-us-deaths-a-year/
November 1st, 2009 at 11:43 pmhow is that for proof you butt plug.
oops….let me clear up my above comment
er’s will not see you if you have a chronic illness that needs treatment..ie cancer requiring chemo and radiation or depression that may lead to suicide or many other examples. They also won’t treat orthopedic problems that cause disabilities and not necessarily death.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:46 pm