ThinkFast: October 30, 2009
ThinkFast: October 30, 2009
National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Rep. Pete Sessions (TX) said yesterday that the GOP would “welcome” Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman into its ranks. Hoffman is slated to face off with Republican Dede Scozzafava and Democrat Bill Owens in a special election in New York’s 23rd congressional district next week.
In a speech at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce’s Institute for Legal Reform Summit on Wednesday, former Florida governor Jeb Bush claimed that “President Obama has used the bully pulpit as a way to attack capitalism.” “That’ll make the news,” added Bush after he uttered his criticism of Obama in response to a question from the audience.
Iran told the IAEA yesterday that it will reject a plan to send its stockpile of low enriched uranium to Russia to be processed and then returned for use in a reactor in Tehran. The decision came only “hours after Iran’s president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, insisted that ‘we are ready to cooperate‘ with the West.”
According to a report that “appears to have been inadvertently placed on a publicly accessible computer network,” House ethics investigators “have been scrutinizing the activities of more than 30 lawmakers and several aides in inquiries about issues including defense lobbying and corporate influence peddling.” Committee chair Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) said “no inference should be made as to any member.”
A report released by the Obama administration today says that “the largest stimulus program in the nation’s history has created or saved at least 650,000 state and local jobs.” The White House says that “the actual number of jobs created so far is likely closer to 1 million, since its report on stimulus job creation only focused on $150 billion of the $339 billion” spent so far.
Approximately 530,000 Americans filed for unemployment insurance last week, reflecting little change from the week before. The Senate is currently considering a bill to extend unemployment benefits by up to 20 weeks, but Republicans have been holding it up.
The Senate unanimously confirmed Dr. Regina Benjamin yesterday to serve as the nation’s surgeon general. For nearly a month, Senate Republicans had delayed a vote on Benjamin as part of the fight over health care reform. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) took the GOP to task yesterday for blocking the vote on Benjamin while concern over H1N1 grows.
After months of negotiations, Honduran and American officials came to an agreement yesterday that would pave the way for the restoration of ousted President Manuel Zelaya. “We are satisfied,” Zelaya told Reuters. “We are optimistic that my reinstatement is imminent.
And finally: “These sweet potatoes are huge! They’re huge,” Michelle Obama told a group of elementary school kids yesterday, as they harvested vegetables from the White House garden. At one point, the First Lady held up one of the larger orange-colored spuds and said: “This can feed an army.” Obama was also photographed eying an earth worm. The Fall Harvest yesterday collected 223 pounds of huge sweet potatoes, carrots, fennel, lettuce, tomatoes, broccoli, turnips, eggplant, peppers, tomatillos and greens.
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“That’ll make the news,”
Well, jeepers, JEB, why don’t you just say that the President is a n******? That’ll “make the news”, you infantile twat.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:05 amIt’s no surprise that the man who said the GOP needs to follow the path of the Taliban would back a clueless extremist like Hoffman. I think the bigger question would be: would Scozzafava be welcomed into the GOP ranks if, by some miracle, she won? With reactionaries, bigots, and the downright idiotic (i.e., Pete Sessions) leading the House GOP…I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Jeb Bush uses the bully pulpit to maliciously attack President Obama. Hooray for Hypocrisy! There’s no doubt he’ll at least form an exploratory committee for 2012, though even the most ardent Republicans won’t go near the Bush name.
Ahmadinejad and Khameni back out of an internationally negotiated settlement. What a shock. If they’re so intent on cooperation, what is their plan? The one they just rejected allows them to keep their nuclear program and drastically reduce their dependence on domestic oil supplies…and they still reject it. Sadly, this regime isn’t going anywhere for awhile.
Finally. An ethics investigation on the Hill. Democrat. Republican. Doesn’t matter. If you’re abusing taxpayer money for personal expense or accepting massive gifts from lobbyists in exchange for favourable legislation, you deserve the full wrath of…a Congressional ethics investigation.
Even in spite of the report that the gov’t overstated the amount of jobs saved or created by the stimulus (by thousands), it CLEARLY is working. Unemployment rates will drop soon enough.
At last: a surgeon general. The obstructionists in the GOP finally realized they can only play politics with the nation’s health for so long. I mean, really…they criticize the administration for inaction on the flu, while simultaneously blocking a government post directly responsible for the handling of a flu outbreak. Wankers. All of them.
Mmm, presidential sweet potatoes…
October 30th, 2009 at 9:13 amJeb Bush claimed that “President Obama has used the bully pulpit as a way to attack capitalism.”
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Lemme guess — he just dropped this turd out there and offered nothing to back it up. How very Republican of him.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:17 amJeb, Jeb, Jeb,
We were told that you were the smart one.
Capitalism is fine, as long as it strictly regulated so criminals don’t make off with all of our 401k money.
Or are you for that kind of capitalism Jeb?
October 30th, 2009 at 9:21 amJeb please remove your foot from your mouth….. hmmmm no never mind…
October 30th, 2009 at 9:21 amAnother enjoyable day watching the pubs making asses out of elephants!!!
The Senate is currently considering a bill to extend unemployment benefits by up to 20 weeks, but Republicans have been holding it up.
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The Republicans don’t seem to understand that unemployed people don’t just go away when you don’t pay them. They also don’t just magically get jobs when you don’t pay them.
I guess they LIKE the idea of homeless people begging in the street. I guess they WANT more foreclosures in their neighborhoods. I guess they think more uninsured people in our emergency rooms driving up premiums for the rest of us is a GOOD thing. And I guess they’re WILD about what empty homes and homeless people do to their property values.
We know Republicans aren’t compassionate people, and won’t help people because it’s morally right. But you’d think they’d lift a finger because it’s practical and would help their bottom line.
Like it or not, it comes down to this — when one of our people doesn’t have enough income to live on, we’re going to pay for that, one way or another. At least unemployment benefits are conditional on trying to find employment. And while it doesn’t permit a lavish lifestyle, it allows people to stay in their homes, feed themselves, and meet their basic needs.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:32 amMust be from all the BS spread by the previous administration!
October 30th, 2009 at 9:32 amanyone with the last name bush who wants to lecture someone else on attacking capitalism needs his ass kicked.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:36 amOf course. The GOP believes it should be up to business (ahahahaha) and religious organizations to provide “charity” to those who’ve lost their benefits/salary/homes. Funny how the rightists are adamant against the seperation of church and state…unless it’s when the state tells the church it can’t incite hatred of gays.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:38 amJeb Bush claimed that “President Obama has used the bully pulpit as a way to attack capitalism.”
As opposed to the Bush family policy of “attack economics”
October 30th, 2009 at 9:40 amwhere legislation is passed and regulations not enforced which enables the wealthy to suck every available dollar out of the economy and from the middle class and working stiffs.
Jeb Bush claimed that “President Obama has used the bully pulpit as a way to attack capitalism.”
As opposed to his defective brother’s stellar Presidency in which New York City and Washington D.C. we’re attacked, along with the American middle class and the American Constitution.
Never forget.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:44 amThe GOP is insane. Do they honestly believe by purging their Party of Moderates is going to be beneficial? By supporting people like Hoffman, they are closing their tent to women, gays and minorities. If they keep doing this, They will be finished in a couple of decades, if not sooner.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:47 amhttp://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20091029_mcchrystal_doesnt_get_it_does_obama/
Interesting article here from Scott Ritter – remember he was the guy who was right in Iraq from the start but the warmongers discredited him.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:52 amHe thinks McChrystal should be fired; this, among his thoughts on Afghanistan.
Meanwhile at Faux News, a You Decide poll asks if readers support health-care reform without a “government-run” option.
Answers:
1) Absolutely! Free-market system rules!
2) Yes probably
3) I dont want any health care reform whatsoever! Free-market system rules!
4) Undecided
foxnews.com/opinion/2009/10/28/lieberman-republicans-filibuster-public-option/
October 30th, 2009 at 9:54 am12. P.D.
The troubling thing about a Hoffman victory is that it COULD spark a larger trend of far-right politicians with little experience and fewer wits winning elections due to their connections with very well-funded out of state types. All the more reason for stricter campaign finance laws.
If, hypothetically, a Hoffman win kills the GOP, we’d be left with a national Conservative party, which would still garner at least 45% of the vote in every major election to act as a foil to the Dems. As long as the Dems keep botching legislation and caving to corporate interests, there will be some kind of heinously conservative opposition to them.
What we need to to scrap our current legislative branch. Create multi-party democracy based on proportional representation (sort of like a nation-wide version of what Nebraska does for the electoral college). Screw first-past-the-post; truly representative democracy would have the Democratic Party, the GOP, the conservatives, the Greens and whoever else actually getting some form of representation and you would’ve have the inane shit the attention whore office seekers backing Hoffman are doing right now
October 30th, 2009 at 9:55 am——————————————————————————–
The GOP is insane. Do they honestly believe by purging their Party of Moderates is going to be beneficial?
You must not have gotten the memo. Moderates are welcome in the Republican Party – as long as they keep their mouths shut and tow the Party line.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:55 amCapitalism should be attacked – look what it has done to ruin our once great nation. But the Bush Crime Family would rather attack third world nations, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.
Great priorities there, Jeb.
October 30th, 2009 at 9:56 amWhere is K Street Whore? I am not done with that poser!
October 30th, 2009 at 9:59 amRepublicans think that this is the way they will win elections, or they wouldn’t be doing it.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:05 amGood morning, fellow insects!
In honor of my birthday (today) and Hallowe’en (tomorrow), I ask, have you seen this incredible drivel?
Enjoy.
Is your Halloween candy prayed over by WITCHES???
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
October 30th, 2009 at 10:11 amAttack capitalism? Seems to me capitalism pretty much attacked itself even Jebs brother said he had to abandon his free market ideology and spread the peoples wealth to it to save it.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:13 amHA HA HA HA
Conservatives = Pathetic Joke.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:13 amHappy Birfer Day Annie!!
October 30th, 2009 at 10:17 amThe Confederate southern white guys in the repiggie ranks are telling New York repiggies what’s what, with their interference into New York repiggie politics.
How will this go down with New Yorkers?
October 30th, 2009 at 10:19 amWhere is K Street Whore?
KSW is like halloween candy after trick and treating and is spread out all over the floor.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:19 amI am consistently amazed at government officials who are proud of the fact they cant run a government plan.
Its like electing the maytag repairman to fix the space shuttle.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:22 amThe logic behind supporting a system that has required bailout from Chrysler to the S&L fiasco [over 500 billion] to the latest debacle costing some 13 trillion and calling it “Free Market” is mind boggling absurdity.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:25 amWho cares about KSW? He’s looking for that Keith Olbermann mask for his costume this year.
Have people decided on their costume for this year? Dressing up for the first time in years.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:28 amXisithrus says:
Happy Birfer Day Annie!!
Fank you! ;o)
October 30th, 2009 at 10:32 amHey, Annie! Happy B-Day!! :)
October 30th, 2009 at 10:34 amIran told the IAEA yesterday that it will reject a plan to send its stockpile of low enriched uranium to Russia to be processed and then returned for use in a reactor in Tehran. The decision came only “hours after Iran’s president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, insisted that ‘we are ready to cooperate‘ with the West.”
You have got to be kidding me!! They changed their mind and didn’t really want non-weapons grade uranium to ween themselves off of oil? Look out Israel….it won’t be long.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:34 amLeftside Annie says:
Good morning, fellow insects!
In honor of my birthday (today) and Hallowe’en (tomorrow), I ask, have you seen this incredible drivel?
Enjoy.
Is your Halloween candy prayed over by WITCHES???
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
Happy Birthday Annie. Thanks for the laugh (I think!!!). I’ve been dipping into the halloween candy and the black licorice is devilish.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:35 amAnd I was thinking about this GDP growth of 3.5% even as some 500k jobs a month are still being shelved and trillions of dollars are being printed. Where accounting rules have been changed and toxic assets have blossomed overnight into gold.
Has it occured to people that inflation is driving prices up? How are home prices going up when there are foreclosures out the yingyangy.
The Shell oil is saying their profits are down 60%+ [IIRC]
Really? They were artificially inflated and are going down to where they should have been. They are not losing money they are just not making as much. Supply and demand are out the broken window and some yayhoo will clamor “Our profits are down, we must raise fuel prices!” even though demand is down. Supply and demand the right side of my left testicle.
I swear, the roly poly fish head people on this bee-u-teeful blue whirled are getting absolutely bizarro. Why are we in such a hurry to go nowhere as fast as we can? Throttle it back people for Gods sake.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:38 amLook out Israel….it won’t be long.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:39 am—
Last time I checked only one country has used this technology against another…Why does Israel have these weapons?
Happy B-day Annie, how many swats on your backside do you get this year?
October 30th, 2009 at 10:40 amHappy Birthday Annie, and by the way I live with a little redhead who is a witch, and she makes all our candy. She has hexed all the candy to turn all these little kids into progressive left of center liberals.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:40 amPurple State says:
Who cares about KSW? He’s looking for that Keith Olbermann mask for his costume this year.
Have people decided on their costume for this year? Dressing up for the first time in years.
Not this year but last year my wife and I got dressed up and went to a house party for the first time in 15 years. I was a mad scientist and my wife was a witch. We only knew the hosts and don’t go out to parties much so it was very much out of our comfort zone. We were the oldest party goers by a good margin. Had a very good time, lots of halloween jello shooters and far too many funny cigarettes. Took 3 days to recover. LOL
October 30th, 2009 at 10:42 amdbadass,
Israel has these weapons because the Germans tried to wipe the Jews off the face of the Earth, and most of their neighbors would and do try to do the same any chance they get.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:53 amlivelongandprosper says:
Had a very good time, lots of halloween jello shooters and far too many funny cigarettes. Took 3 days to recover. LOL
Likely, this will be my last year to party. Got myself a Chinese zombie costume together. Wonder when Glenn Beck will accuse me of attending a party as the “Ghost of Mao”?
October 30th, 2009 at 10:54 amThey changed their mind and didn’t really want non-weapons grade uranium to ween themselves off of oil?
Why would Iran nuke Israel? It would be suicidal and they would be utterly destroyed although I am thinking that some of our more fervent religious folks would see that goshawful disaster as the coming of the return of Yeschu.
Nukes are more of a weapon of deterrent from attack, I think, than anything else.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:57 ammost of their neighbors would.
October 30th, 2009 at 10:57 am—
No they wouldn’t
Has India nuked Pakistan? Pakistan India? Is deterrent one of those words like freedom fighter/terrorist?
October 30th, 2009 at 10:59 amDr. Hussein Matt says:
Happy B-day Annie, how many swats on your backside do you get this year?
Enough to where I’d have to be a serious masochist to enjoy it. ;o)
October 30th, 2009 at 11:00 amTo the Wicca, All Hallows Eve is a religious holiday, similar to Christmas, except it celebrates it during the autumnal festival instead of the solstice.
Most Wicca really don’t pray over things, like candy, unless you include casting spells upon that candy. The Wicca believe that their power is vested in them by Nature itself. One does not pray to Nature, at least not in the Christian sense, because Nature has no human characteristics.
One might pray to God that one’s wife not die. Christians believe that there is something personified that might intervene on your behalf if you pray (and believe). Wiccans don’t really believe that Nature is some kind of “super person” that reasons or thinks. Nature simply is, and they attempt to bend its power to their will.
Unless of course, I have no idea what I am talking about.
October 30th, 2009 at 11:01 amPeepers sez:
BOO!
you scared now?
October 30th, 2009 at 11:02 amIsrael has these weapons because the Germans tried to wipe the Jews off the face of the Earth,
Yes, Iran is exactly like WWII Germany. What kind of logic are you using their peepers, I dont recognize it.
October 30th, 2009 at 11:03 amI have my beliefs that I wont get into, but when people of religion make imprecatory prayers for the demise of those they see as their ideologicsl enemy, isnt that like trying to cast a spell??
October 30th, 2009 at 11:10 amHappy birfday Annie. I trust you’ll be providing the long form of your birf certificate in a timely fashion…..
October 30th, 2009 at 11:13 am44 – Levi – according to the nutjob who wrote that article, if you eat Halloween candy, celebrate the harvest or even use “fall” colors – you’re practically consorting with de debbil and his legion of demons, who (of course) are out to ensnare the souls of the unwary/un-saved/unwashed.
Heh. That’s some downright crazy sheeyit – and the comments are very nearly as hilarious as the article itself.
October 30th, 2009 at 11:14 am48 – I’m six feet tall…is that long enough for you? ;o)
October 30th, 2009 at 11:15 amLeftside Annie says:
48 – I’m six feet tall…is that long enough for you? ;o)
Indeed it is :)~
October 30th, 2009 at 11:19 amdbadass asked a question as to why Israel has these weapons….answer, deterrent.
Xisthrus…the logic was that just as the Jews were persecuted by Germany, they are persecuted and attacked on a regular basis by their Islamic neighbors thus the need for a deterrent.
October 30th, 2009 at 11:29 amI find it perplexing that Wiccans (and Druids) do not believe in Christian mythology, but they are accused of being followers of Satan. Satan is part of the Christian mythos, yet those that do not follow Christianity are lumped into the category of followers of the Christian’s evil deity. How can one be a follower of Satan if one doesn’t believe that Satan even exists?
Christianity frightens me simply because they worship the graven image of a man being tortured to death, even though their book says not to worship graven images. More evil has been done in the name of the Christian God, than all the rest of the Gods throughout history, combined.
October 30th, 2009 at 11:30 amThanks for the laugh. I guess it would be asking too much for you to live in reality.
October 30th, 2009 at 11:43 amAnd why does the US have these weapons? Are the neighbors of the US always trying to nuke the US? So if you like the nation they are a deterrent and if you don’t they are not a deterrent. Is this how this works?
October 30th, 2009 at 11:47 amDid I step into the anti-semite room here?
October 30th, 2009 at 11:55 amdbadass, I hear your argument that everyone should have them or more to your point no one should have them. However, the history of persecution of the Jews and the outright hatred by certain countires….I think we are all familiar with Ahmadinijad’s statements to wipe them off the earth would merit the World’s nervousness about Iran’s proliferation of Nuclear weapons.
October 30th, 2009 at 11:59 amI’ve got a burka, so if I can get a Sarah Palin mask today I’m going as the american taliban.
Happy Birthday Ms. Leftside Annie!
October 30th, 2009 at 12:21 pmWitches praying over halloween candy ?
As a diabetic on a diet, I do have to admit that cany is from the devil.
Seriously though, why are these people attacking a successful, free market, capitalist industry (the candy industry) ? Do they hate capitalism ?
And think of what a similar slur against Proctor and Gamble did to them a few years ago (perhaps 10 to 20 years ago)
October 30th, 2009 at 12:47 pmI will give you an opportunity to explain this nonesense.
October 30th, 2009 at 12:48 pmHappy Friday Youngsters,….A very happy birthday to you Leftside Annie..My birthday was the 11 th…The big 68 …Ugh!….
About witch’s and all living things….There are as many different fractions in the wiccan ideas as there are different relegions all over the world…Let me just add quickly, ” no war has ever been started by witch’s”….Wiccans as a rule are not like the one’s portrayed by Hollywood and the movies, nor like the satan worshipers…There is no hell in my opinion and this witch works for Peace, Mother Earth and all living things…Most I have met are like me, they work to dispell evil and create harmony…No I do not mix up eye of newt and feed it to the unwary, I would be more likely to bake a pie or cake and give it away with my Blessings….Sending out healing wish’s and good thought’s for a friend are my speed….I also send out healing thoughts for evil doer’s hard heart’s, to change their war like way’s to Peace….I would never take another persons life except in self defence..
All of our Sabbots were taken by the christian’s hundreds of years ago to convince new converts to their church way’s…All over the world witch’s were killed for having a birth mark, cat, broom or what ever the papal judges made up for the day…Samhain/Halloween is the fall harvest time and a time when the veil between the living and dead is suposto be the thinnest…Many believe it is a time to honor the dead and speak to them…I think much like native american clans and believe I can do this festival any time I choose and often…Celebrate and be grateful for what I have.
How do’s a witch handle evil doer’s…By exposing them for what they are and shining light on all their evil for the world to see…Sorry for the length…Time to go hug some trees and walk to Bear….Blessings
October 30th, 2009 at 1:06 pmI think we are all familiar with Ahmadinijad’s statements to wipe them off the earth would merit the World’s nervousness about Iran’s proliferation of Nuclear weapons
October 30th, 2009 at 1:34 pm—
I suppose it pointless to wonder about the translation. Using this logic N Korea and Iran would be more than justified in seeking these weapons in light of hostile rhetoric aimed at them by numerous American politicians. Bomb bomb bomb….
Did I step into the anti-semite room here?
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October 30th, 2009 at 1:43 pmWhat does antisemitism have to do with the right of a sovereign nation to defend itself against those it sees as a threat if in fact that is what these weapons are for?
dbadass,
Is your argument an everybody has them or nobody has them argument? If so, you think that nations and leaders that have proven to be homicidal maniacs and committed atrocities against their own people should have nuclear weapons just like more developed and civilized society’s?
October 30th, 2009 at 1:59 pmI am not making either argument. I am simply pointing out the holes in the logic that has been offered. Are you suggesting that the nation of Iran is uncivilized?
October 30th, 2009 at 2:04 pmSo Iran is going to build a nuke and immediately hurl it at Israel? This makes absolutely no sense. Iran is 100% aware of the consequences of such an action. The is no strategic benefit to Iran to do so. There is strategic benefit however to an Iranian deterrent and negotiating chip.
October 30th, 2009 at 2:13 pmdbadass says:
Are you suggesting that the nation of Iran is uncivilized?
I am saying their government is run by a maniac, yes.
“Iran is ready to transfer nuclear know-how to the
Islamic countries due to their need.”
“Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation’s fury,”
“There is no doubt that the new wave (of attacks) in Palestine will wipe off this stigma (Israel) from the face of the Islamic world, … The World without Zionism.”
dbadass says, There is strategic benefit however to an Iranian deterrent and negotiating chip.
I don’t think that sounds like deterrent
October 30th, 2009 at 2:45 pmMr.Peepers says:
dbadass says:
Are you suggesting that the nation of Iran is uncivilized?
I am saying their government is run by a maniac, yes.
So you think the mullahs are maniacs? Because they run things.
Mr.Peepers says:
“Iran is ready to transfer nuclear know-how to the
Islamic countries due to their need.”
“Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation’s fury,”
“There is no doubt that the new wave (of attacks) in Palestine will wipe off this stigma (Israel) from the face of the Islamic world, … The World without Zionism.”
dbadass says, There is strategic benefit however to an Iranian deterrent and negotiating chip.
I don’t think that sounds like deterrent
You think deterrents would work against a “mad man”? LOL!
You extremist republicans want your cake and eat it to.
Mad men don’t respond to deterrents – sane people do.
That’s why the death penalty doesn’t stop you lunatics from blowing up fbi buildings, compounds, churches, clinics or gay bars. You right wing extremists aren’t “deterred” by consequences like that – you’re all nut jobs! Which is why you think everyone else is… Zzzzz..
October 30th, 2009 at 2:59 pmBleepin, where do you get off calling me an extremist Republican?
Bleepin said, Mad men don’t respond to deterrents – sane people do.
dbadass says, Iran is 100% aware of the consequences of such an action. The is no strategic benefit to Iran to do so. There is strategic benefit however to an Iranian deterrent and negotiating chip.
Which is it guys? Are they madmen or not?
It seems pretty simple, I agree with most of the rest of the civilized world that Iran doesn’t need nukes.
October 30th, 2009 at 3:48 pmam saying their government is run by a maniac, yes
October 30th, 2009 at 3:59 pm—
And who do you believe runs the Iranian government?
dbadass says, There is strategic benefit however to an Iranian deterrent and negotiating chip.
I don’t think that sounds like deterrent
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October 30th, 2009 at 4:02 pmWhy not? Incidently would you have argued that the US was run by a madman under Bush? Afterall he did start a war in Iraq under odd pretenses and claimed all that Magog weird shit? Madness indeed!
It seems pretty simple, I agree with most of the rest of the civilized world that Iran doesn’t need nukes.
— But you believe the US, Israel, the UK, India, China, Pakistan, and all do? What about Canada do you think they should? What about Costa Rica? Iceland? How do you decide?
October 30th, 2009 at 4:04 pmI am a little confused by this civilized deal. Can I get a list of the place you deem civilized and those you do not. Is torture civilized?
October 30th, 2009 at 4:05 pmdbad says:
But you believe the US, Israel, the UK, India, China, Pakistan, and all do? What about Canada do you think they should? What about Costa Rica? Iceland? How do you decide?
As I pointed out earlier, I get that you are making an all or none nuclear argument, and I understand that.
In 71, you took the argument out of context….I quoted Ahmadinijead, and said that he did not have “deterrent” in mind for his nuclear weapons program according to his words.
Yes, I do understand he answers to the clerics/ mullahs, but he is the mouthpiece for the country.
Are you really defending Iran and Ahmadinijead’s proliferation of nuclear weapons?
@73 Don’t be patronizing
October 30th, 2009 at 4:44 pmAlso, @71 I would answer your question with a question for you to get a baseline on you before I answer….Was Kennedy a mad man for going into Vietnam, or Truman for going into Korea, or Bush 1 for Perian Gulf War?
October 30th, 2009 at 5:01 pmOne would have to ask the reasons those presidents did so and if they actually thought fantasy biblical characters had something to do with their reasoning.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:13 pm76. It is disingenuous to think that he REALLY went into Iraq for fantasy bibilical reasons. Oil, settle a score for Daddy, CIA misinformation….check, check, and check.
October 30th, 2009 at 5:54 pmA report released by the Obama administration today says that “the largest stimulus program in the nation’s history has created or saved at least 650,000 state and local jobs.” The White House says that “the actual number of jobs created so far is likely closer to 1 million, since its report on stimulus job creation only focused on $150 billion of the $339 billion” spent so far.
Did you really think they would say anything different? They have been pulling numbers out of their arse for 10 months now. This stimulus nonsense is a con that Bernie Madoff would be proud of.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:06 pmIn a speech at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce’s Institute for Legal Reform Summit on Wednesday, former Florida governor Jeb Bush claimed that “President Obama has used the bully pulpit as a way to attack capitalism.” “That’ll make the news,” added Bush after he uttered his criticism of Obama in response to a question from the audience.
Michael Moore, Sean Penn, Harry Belfonte, Danny Glover and Oliver Stone all approve.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:15 pmMy man and I are going to our first H party together – as Hugh Hefner and his Bunny. I can’t wait! Usually we just take his kids around the neighborhood. This year he told them “get invited overnight to a friend’s house, or it’s Granny Chris’s!!” We are staying overnight ourselves, as much booze and funny cigs will be there.
Have a great one everybody!
October 30th, 2009 at 6:33 pmMr.Peepers says:
dbadass,
Is your argument an everybody has them or nobody has them argument? If so, you think that nations and leaders that have proven to be homicidal maniacs and committed atrocities against their own people should have nuclear weapons just like more developed and civilized society’s?
October 30th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
October 31st, 2009 at 1:54 amThat homicidal maniac we just got rid of means we shouldn’t have nukes either, then.
More economic madness from the White House.
In a report for home buyer tax credit wrangling, it seems GMAC is looking to the Treasury for yet another handout:
GMAC Asks for Fresh Lifeline
Lender in Advanced Talks for Third Slug of Taxpayer Cash — at Least $2.8 Billion More
When you are in for over 15 Billion already, what’s another 3 Billion right?
I am unclear as to if the handout of about 3 Billion is in addition to a TLGP issue just made by GMAC, or if this was the deal they wanted:
November 1st, 2009 at 7:57 pmCash Sink Hole GMAC Catches Last TLGP Train Out Of The Station With $2.9 Billion Free Issue
Anybody know? Does it matter? Can anything be done to stop the government from doing these things non stop?
More economic madness from the White House.
A report released by the Obama administration today says that “the largest stimulus program in the nation’s history has created or saved at least 650,000 state and local jobs.” The White House says that “the actual number of jobs created so far is likely closer to 1 million, since its report on stimulus job creation only focused on $150 billion of the $339 billion” spent so far.
Bear in mind it is impossible to prove how many jobs were created and it is beyond preposterous to think one can estimate the number of jobs saved.
However, let’s take the administration’s estimates at face value.
Obama creates 640,329 jobs at a cost of $323,739.83 per job
November 1st, 2009 at 8:09 pm