Lieberman Would Prefer ‘Nothing’ To Health Care Reform With A Public Option
Lieberman Would Prefer ‘Nothing’ To Health Care Reform With A Public Option
For months now, media critics like Media Matters’ Jamison Foser have pointed out that the press have often demonstrated a double standard when questioning opponents and proponents of the public option, only asking advocates about whether they think it is “better to have nothing than to have a plan that does not include the public option.” On CBS’ Face The Nation today, however, host Bob Schieffer put the question to Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT), who claims that he is “all for health care reform, but is threatening to join a Republican filibuster to stop any reform bill that has a public option.
“But wouldn’t that mean that you might wind up with nothing instead of something?” asked Schieffer. Lieberman responded by saying that supporters of the public option are “stopping us from getting something done” because they’re making the option “the litmus test.” Pressed again by Schieffer, Lieberman admitted that he would prefer “nothing”:
SCHIEFFER: But is what you’re also saying is that nothing is better than a government health insurance, or a health insurance reform that includes a public option? Nothing is better than that?
LIEBERMAN: Well, the truth is that nothing is better than that because I think we ought to follow, if I may, the doctor’s oath in Congress as we deal with health care reform, do no harm.
To support his claim that the public option would do harm, Lieberman said that the Congressional Budget Office found that under the House’s health care plan, premiums for the public option would be higher than the average premium in private plans in the exchange. But as TPMDC’s Brian Beutler reported, this is actually an argument for a more robust public option. Watch it:
In his discussion with Schieffer, Lieberman acted as though the public option was the only thing stopping him from supporting health care reform. But this ignores the fact that Lieberman opposed the Baucus bill last month, which did not contain a public option. Apparently, Lieberman truly just wants “nothing” when it comes to health care reform.
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November 1st, 2009 at 12:43 pmI’d prefer nothing to Joe LIEberman.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:45 pmI think he was holding out to just when the bill coming out to make this public that way he would have the most impact. Yet, knowing his ties to the health care industry, this is not that surprising and is most likely a closet republican.
I’d say if he continues on the path he is taking, then he should be stripped of every thing he holds and be reduced to the status of a very junior senator.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:45 pmHe doesn’t want ‘nothing’. What he means is ‘no deviation from the present system’. It’s all about leaving the insurance companies in charge of the playing field, complete with their exemption from competitive practice.
Joe Lieberman, Senate Inside Lobbyist/Senator from Aetna and all around insurance company whore.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:47 pmLieberman said the Public Option “came out of nowhere” and was not mentioned in the campaign last fall.
“The Public Option, I think, was raised in the last year, by people who really want to have a government controlled health insurance system.”
No Joe, that’s because Universal Health Care was in the party platform, which if you had been a participating MEMBER of the party last year, you might recall that.
From the Democratic Party Platform:
“Covering All Americans and Providing Real Choices of Affordable Health Insurance Options. Families and
November 1st, 2009 at 12:51 pmindividuals should have the option of keeping the coverage they have or choosing from a wide
array of health insurance plans, including many private health insurance options and a public
plan. Coverage should be made affordable for all Americans with subsidies provided through
tax credits and other means.”
People who want a government controlled healthcare system? An entitlement, Joe? You’re only entitled to that I guess. Screw the rest of us.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:54 pmHas anyone revoked Lieberman’s government funded healthcare yet?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:59 pmLieberman: what a vile worthless piece of human excrement.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:01 pmLieberman is so busy trying to have it both ways that he’s not really sure where he stands; however, like most 5 year-olds, he’s willing to say just about anything to get attention.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:02 pmCONTACT him here and tell Senator Lieberman (I-Aetna) that he is WRONG. His stance will KILL thousands of Americans.
http://lieberman.senate.gov/contact/
Washington
706 Hart Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
(202) 224-4041 Voice
(202) 224-9750 Fax
Connecticut
One Constitution Plaza
7th Floor
Hartford, CT 06103
(860) 549-8463 Voice
(800) 225-5605 In CT
CALL, CALL, CALL…and tell your friends.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:03 pmFrankly I think it’s time for Americans to just face facts. The USA really is not a wealthy enough nation to afford health care for all. Oh, and we can’t really afford to care for our elderly either.
So let’s chuck the Public Option, and lets privatize SS at the same time.
And while were at it, lets start a few more wars. After all the unemployment rate for young men is touching 50%. It’ll give them something to do. Die.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:03 pmSome smart interviewer should ask Joe where he stands on revoking the anti-trust exemption for the insurance companies. Did Bob Schieffer miss that one?
November 1st, 2009 at 1:03 pmThis guy is why lobbyists rule washington.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:05 pmI was only half-paying attention to him this AM, but my ears perked up when he said the public option “came out of nowhere” — blatant lie! blatant distortion of fact!
November 1st, 2009 at 1:07 pmThe public option came out of the universal health care that was widely talked about for months until it was prematurely killed.
weeell… he’s gonna stick with it… he don’t care – he’s gone…
that was tough to watch… also tough was sitting through any more of the george will after a few minutes…
does it seem he is even more of a pompous jerk than ever?
like, he’s determined to not cooperate with any criticism…
and when george S made a gaff mispronouncing david plouffe’s name as ‘bluff’, will sat back with a chuckle/smirk like it was a good joke he really enjoyed… ha.
sunny day here! out to do some chores… later…
November 1st, 2009 at 1:08 pmIt makes no difference to Lieberman when his illogical views pointed out. He has made up his mind and the facts be damned. I would hope his constituents have strong opinions on the public option. Let Lieberman squirm because he will have to choose between his insurance campaign contributions or the constituents who favor the public option and the probable loss of his chairmanship.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:12 pmSo where’s the investigation on him? He’s obviously being paid off.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:13 pm#12 virtual pebble
Lieberman did say:
“I’m open to supporting the removal of the antitrust exemption for the insurance industry. I’m prepared to support it.”
Is that because Reid punted on that and traitor Joe feels safe in saying he’d support it?
November 1st, 2009 at 1:13 pmLying Lieberman does nothing without a hidden agenda.
LIEBERMAN: Well, the truth is that nothing is better than that…
Do we need any further proof that Lieberman is really a Republican?
November 1st, 2009 at 1:13 pmLIEBERSHMUCK: Well, the truth is that nothing is better than that because I think we ought to follow, if I may, the doctor’s oath in Congress as we deal with health care reform, do no harm.
TRANSLATION: Well, the truth is that the needless deaths of 45,000 of my fellow Americans every year due to lack of access to affordable health care is better than me having to turn my back on the people whom I truly serve and am accountable to – all those health insurance industry campaign donors.
Just saying . . .
November 1st, 2009 at 12:27 pmJoe – follow your own advice! “do no harm”!!! Retire!!!!!
November 1st, 2009 at 12:28 pmI’m a little confused here. Why aren’t liberal and progressive leaders (especially from Connecticut!) not organizing protest of him? Why are there not organized campaigns of callers to his staff? Why no sit-ins at his office? Why not have Connecticut voters who support a public option harass him everywhere he goes? Why are liberal pundits not shooting down his talking point every time they’re on TV? Oh yea, liberal are inept at organizing for political advantage. I forgot. This is why the right can force out its’ moderates in NY but the left gives it’s most conservative members chairmen seats, and the power to thwart their goals. Pathetic!
November 1st, 2009 at 12:30 pmAccording to the reception I’ve received, everyone’s happy with the individual mandate. It seems they’re all sell outs except for maybe Weiner and Kucinich. Yeah, Grayson talks tough, but when your worth is over 30m what’s a mandate?
I’m so glad President Obama decided to leave the Senate and Congress to their own devices. It’s worked out well.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:33 pmSomebodys got to lift their foot up and kick Lieberman right in his neocon ass. I can’t believe Obama and some other democrats are tolerating this clown.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:36 pmYou have the radical extreme right wing of the republican party influencing who gets elected as a republican and you think we should emulate that?
It is destroying thier party. You act like it’s a good thing.
I have a feeling that jumpin joe will be feeling plenty of pressure over his stance. This is what he lives for. To be “important”.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:36 pmThis is worth a read:
The Health Care Pledge for Conservatives.
(I tried posting this here, but it’s not showing up)
November 1st, 2009 at 12:40 pmLieberman is the little kid in grade school who would never give the ball back.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:50 pmkaty says:
that was tough to watch
I lasted all of three seconds before I was yelling at the television.
Thank you Soapbox for providing that link and making contacting him so easy. I sent him a message telling him that he was WRONG to disregard the wishes of the majority of his constituents and that he was WRONG to not support a public option that was affordable and inclusive.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:59 pmI have an honest question for liberals: Would you rather have the bill fail if it lacks a public option? I don’t know if Lieberman is posturing or if this is his stand. It’s starting to look like his stand, he’s making it hard to change his mind without people accusing him of flip-flopping.
But are liberals posturing? Is health care reform a lost cause?
You know what would happen, politically, if it does lose, right? Congress is going to fill up with hard line conservatives in 2010. There doesn’t seem to be any way for liberals to win in this country, sad to say. Perhaps the best strategy is to support leftists politically while, at the same time, try to make leftist issues more prominent among the people at large. Personally, I support the health care bill with or without the public option. It sounds like there are a lot of good things in it. I think liberals are pissed off because single-payer isn’t even on the table. But I think if this health reform plan can pass, even without a public option, there will be greater opportunity to improve the health care bill later on. If the bill fails, I don’t think the topic will be brought up again for another decade and the President will lose all momentum for other issues. You’re going to kill his Presidency right here and now.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:04 pmPost 28: Mary…
November 1st, 2009 at 1:04 pmMy pleasure. I hope a few TP readers will make a Sunday call to his offices.
matimp says:
Would you rather have the bill fail if it lacks a public option?
Exactly what DOES the bill have if there is no public option?
November 1st, 2009 at 1:07 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Mr. Duke you’re an ass. I can’t help but wonder if you’re either already on a government plan or are one of those who are facing double-digit increases for your employer-based health insurance plan.
But enough attention already given to the troll.
Check out this great post from the ‘MyLeftNutmeg.com’ blog yesterday:
Lieberman = Ballon Boy dad
November 1st, 2009 at 1:16 pmMary Lacewing: It seems to increase regulation on the insurance companies, which does seem to be solidly popular among Americans across the political spectrum. At the same time I’m afraid of the individual mandate. I don’t have health insurance, can’t afford it. What does the plan do to help that if there is no public option?
November 1st, 2009 at 1:29 pmI would rather Congress pass each and every Republican health care proposal than a flawed Democratic proposal with zero Republican votes.
I believe the quickest way to reform our country is to give Republicans everything they want. Within ten years, twenty tops, conditions will have gotten so bad for the working class that revolution will be inevitable. Assuming, of course, they don’t bring about the end of the world in the meantime.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:33 pmNothing is better than the Public Option, i.e., there is nothing better than the Public Option.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:41 pmTime ol”joe leave and live off his wife’s salary as attorney for WellPoint . . . hear they have a nice employee health plan – she could add him . . . .
November 1st, 2009 at 1:56 pmNo bill
November 1st, 2009 at 2:25 pmNo Lieberman
matimp – thank you for responding.
I myself am one of those currently without coverage. From what I’ve read of Pelosi’s bill I can’t see anything that gives me any confidence about an affordable plan for us. Hopefully I’m just not good at interpreting the legal language.
As far as regulating the insurance companies there is a lot of (convoluted) language in Pelosi’s bill, for example, that would seem to protect those who are already in plans but quite frankly that doesn’t help me.
Pelosi’s bill talks about eligibility for credits starting on page 247 but I couldn’t really make heads or tails of it and suspect that, as inadequate as my current income is right now, that I probably wouldn’t qualify for any credits.
Hopefully we’ll be able to find additional income and make do. We’re trying very hard to do so. If we can make more money and there is some kind of exchange available perhaps we can become covered again at some point.
Good luck to you!
November 1st, 2009 at 2:25 pmmatimp, thanks for your CONCERN - as Ralph would say.
We liberals and progressives are not stupid – nor are we toothless. The election of Barack Obama to the presidency of the United States should tell you that!
I think where we do fail is in that we seem to be unable to wrap our collective heads around the true evil that is the Republican Party and it’s so-called “conservative” members. We seem to always give these evildoers the benefit of the doubt (just look at Traitor Joe Lieberman!) and tell ourselves that “they can’t really be that bad!”
Well, they ARE that bad, and we need to realize that what they have in mind is the complete destruction of America as we know it – our rights, our middle-class lives, our freedom to read, speak, vote as we will. They will not rest until they have achieved the complete dismantling of the Constitution and reinstated the feudal society of the late 1800’s, also known as “The Gilded Age,” where the rich were kings and the poor were nothing but serfs and slaves.
That, matimp, is what they want. And we liberals and progressives are the ONLY things standing in their way. That is why they relentlessly demonize us, marginalize us and block democratic and populist reform at every turn.
I don’t know about you, matimp, or the rest of you “conservative” lemmings, but I will fight to the last drop of my blood to prevent them from turning America into their medieval fiefdom. You, my friend, would be wise to join us – if not, then get the hell out of my way, or I will run you down.
I’m one of the new liberals – I don’t take shit from anyone, and I will not allow the likes of Rush Limbaugh to tell me what to do and what to think. Unlike you and your “conservative” ilk, I think for myself – and I’m also willing to fight for what I believe in, and for this nation.
Am I being overly dramatic?
I don’t think so, because as one of my fellow posters pointed out this morning – it may very well come down to a second American Revolution – this one to KEEP our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.
As for you, “conservative idiots” – you can kiss my liberal ass – BRING IT ON.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:28 pmHe’s up for re-election in 2012.
It’s not that far away.
Let’s never forget what a prick that guy truly is.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:30 pmLeftside Annie – I gave matimp benefit of the doubt but share your suspicions there.
In the meantime, the bill I was reviewing to see if it, assuming is can even pass in its current form, could be of some help to me and my husband can be found here.
On page 252 they have a table that would indicate to me that we would probably have to pay up to about $4,000 to $4,500 per year towards coverage. But since we’re both currently self-employed, even that would be quite a stretch right now..I’m not proud to say.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:37 pmDemocrats should strip Lieberman of his chairmanship now, and announce publicly that he will not be getting it back without his full support.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:39 pmThat being said, any reform would probably be better than nothing but I feel strongly that should a public option survive debate it would HAVE to be available to everyone.
Otherwise it’s critics will blame any large program costs or even any large increases to people’s employer-based programs on those that are able to take advantage of any public option. In other words it’ll create resentment and foster more anger towards government.
I do bookkeeping for a company that pays for half of their employees’ health insurance plans and the increases in their portion of the premiums are becoming unaffordable to both them and for their employer. The company may not survive and the outrageous monthly premiums are one of the reasons for that.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:46 pmI hope Obama’s learned a lesson on this one. You can’t rehabilitate a putz.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:53 pm“Putz” meaning LIEberman…
November 1st, 2009 at 3:21 pmWell frankly I agree with him though for different reasons. I think this is a massive corporate welfare bill what will do very little, and possibly nothing at all, to improve health care in this nation.
IMHO we should toss this bill and go back to work on real health care reform like single payer whether Obama likes it or not.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:26 pmdidn’t he mean “do Aetna no harm”…?
November 1st, 2009 at 3:26 pmI am from CT and I will do everything I can to make sure Joe Lieberman NEVER serves another term as Senator from CT. He has been bought and paid for by the Health Insurance industry. His objective is to kill ANY health insurance reform bill so the corporate criminals running the health insurance companies can continue pillaging America. Lieberman has lost his way and he will pay for betraying the more than 60% of CT citizens who support a public option. Now I know how the right wing feels about Obama. I sincerely loathe Lieberman and hold him responsible for the Americans who are dying because they lack health insurance. AG Richard Blumenthal MUST be the next Senator from CT when elections are held in 2012. I apologize to the rest of America for Lieberman and regret that he has another 3 years to serve his criminal insurance masters.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:39 pmamTruth says:
AG Richard Blumenthal MUST be the next Senator from CT when elections are held in 2012.
Has he decided to challenge Lieberman?
November 1st, 2009 at 4:02 pmLeftside Annie, I am in total agreement with EVERYTHING you have written here. You and I are of the same mind and we understand the real desire of the right wing is to destroy American democracy and replace it with an oligarchy of the wealthy. What makes this particularly lamentable is that this oligarchy will come to power with the support of the “Tea Party” conservatives who are mostly low income, uneducated, bigots who will be tossed aside once the transformation has been made. The conservative media of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity are filling the same roles as the local Hutu media did during the Rwandan genocide of 1994. At that time the Hutu media dehumanized the Tutsi minority just as the conservative media in America today dehumanizes the progressive liberal. Conservative media in America characterizes any progressive liberal as un-American or as Sara Palin has said, “Not real Americans”. This makes it easier for the right wing to attack the left wing when the right wing “Judgement Day” finally arrives. Pay attention to the upcoming “Tea Party” rallies as they encourage people to turn against the liberal progressive and to take back their country. We are living in a time when the radical right wing will stop at nothing to “take back” America, even if that means destroying America in the process.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:02 pmShilling for all he’s worth and then some.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:19 pmJust eliminating Joe and all the money spent on him and the people who lobby him would pay for many uninsured. He’s somebody that could use a real job. He seems suited to cleaning toilets at a mental hospital. No insult to toilets intended.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:32 pmWho is paying for Joe Lieberman’s health care? Talk about pouring money down a rat hole. Single payer for all citizens.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:36 pmThis country faces the equivalent of a 9/11 EVERY 3 1/2 weeks due to people having to go without health care. I mentioned this to Rep. Alan Grayson earlier today when he was on my friend’s call-in radio program, and he agreed that we need to frame the issue in those terms.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:46 pmJoe Lieberman is an obstructionist to the democratic agenda and does not deserve his chairmanship on Homeland Security. He is no leader and certainly not one for democrats to be asked to follow. It is time for the dems to put him aside and let the repugs deal with him and the people of CT.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:05 pmThe Insurance Companies and their obstructionist shills are Terrorists.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:08 pmOur false elitists cannot garner votes by their insignificant talents so they resort to the dollar, a virtueless thing, to purchase them.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:42 pmI don’t know how to put this any other way than to come right out and say it. Sen. Joe Liebermann is an a s s hole and doesn’t deserve to be in congress. The people that voted for him are idiots. He wouldn’t say that about any thing they consider for Israel. He’s a total “sell out”, and should be kicked out of the democratic caucaus for this outrage. This shows exactly what was wrong with the President forgiving this piece of s h i t for what he said and did during the Presidential campaign. I can’t stand this stupid bastard at all. I like Rush Limbaugh more than I like this pinhead a s s hole, and Rush makes my stomach turn. That’ should tell you how discussed I am with this d i c k head.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:00 pmThe awful truth for those looking for a freebie at taxpayer expense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hn6ad4_FzM&feature=popular
November 1st, 2009 at 7:17 pmkwsventures,
You are a lying fascist Republican maggot. You are unworthy of existence.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:36 pmMary Lacewing/Leftside Annie:
You guys are very cynical about people you correspond with online unless I’m some sort of bizarre exception. I don’t consider myself a conservative, if that means anything to you.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:37 pmRon Paul lives in a dream world.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:13 pmWow – just like Kucinich and his fans. Funny, that.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:27 pmWhat else would we expect from the Senator from Aetna?
November 1st, 2009 at 8:31 pmMaybe Joe is worried that the Death Panel will deny him care and allot it to a more deserving individual. Almost anybody else.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:32 pm“.. the truth is that nothing is better than that because I think we ought to follow, if I may, the doctor’s oath in Congress as we deal with health care reform, do no harm.”
But he will be doing a great deal of harm to the people that don’t have health insurance or access to the public option.
The only thing better than the public option would be single payer anyway…
November 1st, 2009 at 10:33 pmI’m sorry, but Joe you made me do it. Yes, you my self indulgent, sutpid like moronic a s s hole, you are just like Adolph Hitler. You are corrupted to the core of your rotten soul and bought and paid for by big business, big insurance, and Israel. You are a total sell out and your rotten soul is going to burn in hell FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!! You sat there and said you’d rather have people die for lack of health insurance than vote for a public option. Furthermore you even stated that you would personally filabuster the bill if it contained a public option, and that is exactly why you are like your hero Hitler. Don’t give me that “I’m a Jew” crap as a reason to be not be compared to Hitler. If you act like him, then I have to compare you to him. Only a sick
November 1st, 2009 at 10:43 pmb a s t a r d like him could watch people die and not give a damn.
I applaud Lieberman. A 1,990 page bill should be against the law. No one can possibly understand everything within that bill. Health care reform is too important on so many levels to be “pushed through” like the stimulus bill. The stimulus bill was “rushed through” because there was a “crisis”. Well, there was to be no earmarks, yet there were over nine thousand. And there was to be transparency, yet there wasn’t even proper time for the bill to be read. The stimulus was to keep unemployment at 8% and to date we have only spent 15% of the money and did nothing for small businesses so they could create new jobs. Unemployment is now near 10%. We are broke and cannot afford to let the goverment run yet another diastrous program like Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, all on the verge of bankruptcy. Our government hasn’t even been able to run the H1N1 vaccination program, yet people think they can run an entire health care program? If our goverment was able to control costs cut fraud and waste in Medicare and Medicaid, they could cover the 12 million uninsured through one of theses programs. And cutting Medicare benefits to our seniors to cover the uninsured and illegals (there will surely be a loophole to cover illigals hidden within the 1,990 pages) is unconsionable. This is not a health care reform bill, it is the goverment takeover of the health care industry. Yes, those health insurance companies make a profit, unlike AIG, GM and the banks that we had to bail out and then give the executives who destoyed the companies bonuses! Why is making a profit evil? Let’s demonize every company that runs efficiently and makes a profit. What else is the government going to take over? We are on the road to socialism. I don’t want the government to take away my freedom of choice on my health care.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 amGuys, why let this moron bother you?
It is clear why he is doing what he is. He has no intention of running again. He showed the Democrats by beating them in the general after having his butt handed to him in the primary. He won based on lies. He is exploiting and taking advantage of Obama’s civility. He is ignoring not only his constituency, but the greater than 60% of medical bill bankruptcies and 45,000 American deaths per year.
He is simply bought and paid for and looking forward to his retainer while that simple year passes before he can become an overpaid lobbyist for corporate interests while moving his home base to Israel. Thanks for that lobbyist reform, by the way, Pelosi.
The Dems should kick him out of their caucus and strip him of all his committee positions, but as we have seen, that is not how corporatists and bipartisan disillusionists roll.
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 amSusang @69
All we need to do is pass HR 676.
Both chambers’ bills do nothing to actually solve the healthcare crisis problem, because both are too tainted by corporate bribe influence.
We truly need campaign finance and real lobbyist reform before we can expect to combat the corruption to a significant enough degree to actually get useful, conscientious and real healthcare reform that brings America into the same century as the rest of the industrialized world.
Both chambers should be ashamed of themselves for the crap they submitted.
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 amTo be fair, if Liebermann thinks that “nothing” is better than government sponsored health care then he should give his up.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:06 pmI like Liebermann.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:02 pmThis is insane man ,He just wants attention .Thousands of people may die because of his stupid child play.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:24 pmI called his office ,the mail box is full all the times , I guess many people call in to complaint about his behave .
Finally I talked to the woman and I asked her if ” Senator plan to move to Midle Earst after blowing health care reform ?”
She said ” r you joking ? ” I said I am not joking , Many rumor on internet about that .
what the shameful senator .
Please people call his office until He change his crazy mind.
Well enough, Joe, single payer it is!
November 2nd, 2009 at 6:37 pm