Limbaugh lumps Fox News into ‘conservative media,’ Chris Wallace doesn’t object.
Limbaugh lumps Fox News into ‘conservative media,’ Chris Wallace doesn’t object.
For weeks now, Fox News has been vigorously objecting to the Obama administration’s contention that the network often acts as “the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party.” But on Fox News Sunday today, host Chris Wallace did not object when Rush Limbaugh included Fox News as an example of the “conservative media” that has been spawned in the wake of his success on the radio:
LIMBAUGH: Look at 1988, there was nobody doing what I’m doing. Nobody. You had CNN was the only cable network and you had the three networks and the newspapers. And now, look, now look what’s out — all this conservative media. Conservative talk radio, television, Fox News, the conservative blogosphere. I mean, in one way, I could, if I wanted to have my ego be as big as Obama’s is, I could say, look what I created.
Instead of pushing back on Limbaugh’s description of Fox as ideologically conservative, Wallace moved on to the next question, saying, “let’s talk about you.” Watch it:
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I saw the “interview”, one softball after the other.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:21 am“I could, if I wanted to have my ego be as big as Obama’s is, I could say, look what I created.”
“But I won’t do that. You know why? Because I’m magnanimous. I’m humble. I’m the kind of human being all of you poor slobs ought to wish you were. Did I mention I’m humble?”
Rush is so clueless about how he is perceived beyond the walls of his studio that, if he weren’t so odious, it would be charming.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:22 am“I could, if I wanted to have my ego be as big as Obama’s is, I could say, look what I created.”
Rush has no ego to speak of, right? He’s like Jesus. Or Gandhi.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:28 amLimbaugh’s head appeared large and bloated, literally filling my TV screen; his teeth were bright white, obviously capped. His answers, the usual fear mongering; I knew exactly what he would say before answered any of those softballs from Wallace.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:30 ammagnanimous? humble?
It’s a good thing TV doesn’t create a smell when you watch it. The aroma of bullshit would be overwhelming from these two.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:32 amLIMBAUGH: Look at 1988, there was nobody doing what I’m doing. Nobody. You had CNN was the only cable network and you had the three networks and the newspapers. And now, look, now look what’s out — all this conservative media. Conservative talk radio, television, Fox News, the conservative blogosphere. I mean, in one way, I could, if I wanted to have my ego be as big as Obama’s is, I could say, look what I created.
Yes, he could say that if he wanted to lie. And we know he wants to lie, so why didn’t he say it?
Rush was, by no means, the first of his kind. There have been right wing hate radio jocks since long before Rush. For him to claim to have “created” what we see today in terms of conservative media really would be egotistical.
And where the fnck does he get off claiming Obama’s ego is so big? How many times have Republicans felt they had to call into this show and apologize to him for belittling his influence? Did he ever once tell those people it was unnecessary to call him? No, he thanked them for their contrition. If that isn’t a sign of an over-inflated ego, I don’t know what is.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:35 amObama has already beaten this tub of lard by getting elected President. When the tall, skinny, good looking guys stands next to the short, squatty, sweaty, smelly guy, we women instinctively know who’s got the most lead in their pencil and it ain’t squatty! Sorry but, I couldn’t resist!
November 1st, 2009 at 11:36 amApologize to meee, Rush! You stepped across the line!!
No way the meedia is anything less than liwbwul! There is no such thing as conservative media. You have wib media and you have the fair and balanced channel.
Answer to meee Rush. explain yourself!
That’s it. Rush is out like Scozafava! I will become the new Rush!
November 1st, 2009 at 11:40 amswinebaugh
November 1st, 2009 at 11:41 amConservatives don’t need egos. We just get off on being exceptionally mean people.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:43 amWayne, as a Republican, Rush is especially skilled in the art of Projection.
Thus you can bet that whenever he accuses someone on the left of something that doesn’t seem to fit, you can bet your bippy that it’s a trait Rush’s subconscious knows applies to him.
I mean, c’mon… no ego? A guy who claims he’s working with “talent on loan from God”?
Either Rush is really smart and making fun of all those who worship him, or he’s a deluded, self-loathing guy with a loud voice, a talent for saying provocative things and a willingness to defend them.
My money’s on “B”.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:44 amOMG, how much worse can these Sunday morning talk shows get?…LIEberman is on Face The Nation right now.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:46 amHopefully Bob will have a decent panel.
I am glad I tuned in for this 25-minute waste of FoxSnooze fraudcasting! Limpballs was in rare form. It’s amazing how much he resembles Archie Bunker . . . except that Archie was smarter, more likeable and better looking.
The best part of the interview, however, was about what Limpballs learned from rehab. His answer was total BS. He learned nothing from rehab. And it is obvious that he is in the midst of a total relapse. The dead-giveaways are his bragging about drinking “adult beverages” (he didn’t learn that the path to recovery lies in abstinence); his huge ego and grandiosity (he didn’t learn that the path to recovery requires humility — that is, self-awareness); he denies responsibility for the consequences of his own actions, e.g. — the NFL kerfuffle (he didn’t learn that the path to recovery requires personal accountability); he is a hate-mongering, belittling gasbag (he didn’t learn that resentment and anger are poison for addicts like him).
In short, Limpballs has zero credibility or integrity.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:46 amNo need to correct the insinuation that Faux is an arm of the conservative movement. They are proud of it. The only time it becomes a burden is when they want to paint Obama as an obstructionist
November 1st, 2009 at 11:53 amtom, effective rehabilitation programs are built upon total honesty with oneself.
That much alone should tell you that any rehab Rush underwent just rolled off him like water off a duck’s back. Perhaps that was necessary, since successful substance abuse treatment would have virtually destroyed the source of his wealth and power — his thinly disguised racism, willingness to indulge in hatred and his bottomless well of self-loathing that must always be turned outward.
The man is so psychologically transparent that it’s truly comical.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:55 amFrom Matt’s post;
“Instead of pushing back on Limbaugh’s description of Fox as ideologically conservative, Wallace moved on to the next question, saying, “let’s talk about you.””
I think that says it all. It’s a public BJ (”puff piece”) where Chris Wallace soothingly and gently applies tounge strokes to Fatty’s weenie while Fatty sings songs of bloviation and ego. “Let’s talk about you.” – As if the Head Cheese Bloviator was there to talk about anything else. It’s all about him, or his opinions, or any other BS that might fall out of his mouth.
Now, don’t bother me – I have to watch the clip to verify my suspicion. And rememeber;
Palin/Limbaugh 2012 – Pullin’ the Plug on America
November 1st, 2009 at 11:59 am@16. pardon me, that should have been “tongue”…
November 1st, 2009 at 12:01 pmRush must have shared his stash. Wallace was too mellow to hit his “we aren’t conservative, we’re fair and balanced” cue.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:05 pmLIMBAUGH: Look at 1988, there was nobody doing what I’m doing.
I call BS. Rush is quick for taking credit for something thats been around, under different names for some time. Its called ‘Transfer’ and is a form of propaganda. It is manipulation of language much like Luntz does with ‘framing.’ It also reeks of demonization of others. Hardly new. And politicians from all partys have engaged in it whether they realize its propaganda, which can probably be called smear as well.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:07 pm
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Wallace moved on to the next question, saying, “let’s talk about you.”
Wallace relaxed a little, relieved that he’d avoided having his stupid face slapped off by the drugster — again.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:09 pmShorter Rush: I invented demonization of others before the inquisitors did!!
November 1st, 2009 at 12:09 pmdoes this mean that when Rush eventually passes on there will be no more “conservatives”?
’cause that would be awesome.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:09 pm@ 3. gummitch says: “I could, if I wanted to have my ego be as big as Obama’s is, I could say, look what I created.” Rush has no ego to speak of, right? He’s like Jesus. Or Gandhi. November 1st, 2009 at 11:28 am
Oh yeah, he’s just a regular frackin’ egoless Bhodhisattva, here to point out the right path to rightness. Just take the next right and go right over the edge…
(femto-snark)
November 1st, 2009 at 12:09 pmPorkchop1950 says:
…reaffirmed my belief…
November 1st, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Shit in one hand and put your belief in the other, and see which one fills up faster.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:11 pmPorkchop
shut up and stop being a waste of my hard-earned tax $.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:11 pmSorry pigsh|t, that kind of garbage is so tired people don’t even get partially riled up about it anymore.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:12 pmI believe Limbaugh just got to a few million flaming liberals that either are on or suck from the public trough. -=Porky=-
Seriously? Your going to whip out your projectionst sidewalk chalk and try to color people into your unimaginative scribblings?
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I would bet you are on the public’s pay list. Just so you completely understand what I mean: You must draw your pay from most of us hard working tax paying citizens.
By your defintion you shouldnt then be voting for politicians or even supporting the troops.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:24 pmPorkchop1950 says:
So, not only did Limbaugh get to you, but so did I.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Sorry Porkie, no dice. I hope you don’t make gambling a habit.
Actually, people like you bore me to tears. You and your sheepish authoritarian attitude, and ignorant assumptions are what tear at the fabric of this nation.
Should I assume that “1950″ is the year of your birth, or the price of your soul?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:24 pmPorkchop1950 says:
I would bet you are on the public’s pay list. Just so you completely understand what I mean: You must draw your pay from most of us hard working tax paying citizens.
Why do you nutcases think you’re the only people with jobs?
It’s a truly stupid misconception about Americans who don’t agree with you.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:24 pm@ 20. Porkchop1950 says: I believe Limbaugh just got to a few million flaming liberals that either are on or suck from the public trough. … dump all incumbants if they cannot prove that they are financially responsible and that they do not spend money that we cannot afford to keep sending them. November 1st, 2009 at 12:08 pm
And just how do you draw this inference, pokechop? Is someone jumping up and down about borrowing another kazillion buckolas from the Chinese, like the Shrub did, but proposing that we use it to build McMansions for the homeless, instead of using it to screw up Iraq? What’s your problem, pokechop?
By the way, you misspelled incumbent, but don’t let that bother you. We all make mistakes.
Porkchop? 1950? That must be rather rancid by now, or at least dessicated unto shoe leather, verily.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:24 pmAnd just so you know, Porkster, about half of that taxpayer debt your crying about paying is bought by other countries thru treasuries bills/bonds.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:25 pmCbmaxwell says:
November 1st, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Leave Limbaugh alllloooonnnneeeee!!!!
*Cbmaxwell bursts into tears*
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Limbaugh has 20 million listeners a week
5 days in a talk show week. That’s 4 million people per day. That’s 4/300, just over 1% of the population. And you call us pinheads!! LOL
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27, Says the corporate welfare hog.
Farm subsidies anybody?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:30 pmYou pinheads don’t get it…Limbaugh has 20 million listeners a week, of all political stripes. That is more that ABC, NBC, and CBS network anchors combined.
No, if you understood how demographics worked and Amplitude Modulation you would find that number to be quite inflated. There maybe are twenty million people who voted republican, of which not all are even conservative republicans, which these AM radio waves cover but in no way does that mean every conservative in that area is tuned to Limbaughs show, its based on possible listeners.
And further more that number of twenty million can be further reduce by the simple comprehension that its the same 3- million seven days a week to total 21- million
November 1st, 2009 at 12:31 pmI pay taxes,
always have,
so when porkie and freeloader shoot their fool mouths off,
I laugh.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:31 pm28, 37, Not to mention what he’s done for Vigra, weight loss and three (count ‘em three!) ex-wives.
Did I mention Oxycontin? Awesome :)
November 1st, 2009 at 12:31 pmThese trolls come here day in and day out with the same old line. Not one of them ever has an original thought or comment. They all sound just like Rush, Hannity, Savage and the rest of talk radio. Don’t you people think for yourself? You all treat politics like its a football game, and all about your side winning, even when your side may be wrong.
I guess none of you got far enough threw school to learn about critical thinking or independent thought. The hive mind is strong in you trolls.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:32 pmHe is working to get me lots of free stuff from all you taxpayers
I dont think you understand the concept of lobbyism and how that creates earmarks, grants and government subsidies for special interest groups not to mention funding the MIC.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:33 pmfoxsuckers are too dumb to expect something in return for the taxes they pay.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:33 pmHeh. If that fat gasbag was filled with any more hot air – he’d simply float away.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:33 pmFree Load R says:
November 1st, 2009 at 12:28 pm
The teabagger demonstrates his stunning ignorance.
Thank you.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:35 pmFree health care will be really great.
The issue IS health insurance reform. And if you think about it inusrance, whether public or private is paid out of a money pool. Both are ’socialist’
November 1st, 2009 at 12:36 pmFish Ranch Road = East Bay, right?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:36 pm…both of these pigs make me sick.
They are destroying America and our way of life.
They want a Third-World-Dictatorship system, where “they have ALL the say”. You? Just shut the F-up and keep working to fill their troughs.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:36 pm@ 28. Cbmaxwell says: You pinheads don’t get it…Limbaugh has 20 million listeners a week, of all political stripes. That is more that ABC, NBC, and CBS network anchors combined. And yes, he single handedly saved the AM radio band by re-branding talk radio in his image. … 2010, GOP blowout of DEMS in conservative states. November 1st, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Acch, Mein Gott, how did I not see this; Pudge Blimpo ist das FUBAR and must be listened to in all things. And he has a very large audience, too. He single handedly dunked it in the sewer of hate jock talk and hath created modern man in his very image. Bow down, oh lefty infidels, bow down. (giga-snark)
Max, there’s an old saying about committees that applies to audiences as well. It has to do with pitching to the lowest common denominator, because otherwise, the schnooks don’t go into the tent. Pitch to the lowest base emotion to keep ‘em coming back, because that’s how ya get ears to hear the advertising.
Have a nice day, and remember this, ’cause you saw it hear first;
Sarahcuda/Limpbo 2012 – Pullin’ the Plug on America
November 1st, 2009 at 12:37 pm40, FRR thanks for the reminder. Wife number three “Marta” lived in a separate home away from El Rushbo. She stated publicly that one of the reasons for this was that the corpulent conservative commentator was “flatulent”.
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I tell ya, the trolls just don’t have the staying power they used to have. *sigh*
November 1st, 2009 at 12:38 pmJust to show you how numbers can be skewed, for SAGs, lets take that 20 million and increase it by 56 weeksto get 1 billion 120 million listeners.
There are only +300 million in America. Igmoes.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:39 pmHey Angel, did you get past six grade and learn the difference between “threw” as in he threw a ball, and “through” as in I am through with you? DUH!
Sometimes I spell it ‘thru’. Does that mean I also did not get past sixth grade?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:40 pmdoes this mean, that when rush eventually passes away,
there will be no more “conservatives”?
-’cause that would be awesome.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:42 pmZoo, East Bay it is.
You’re right, the trolls are quitting earlier. Kind of like Lima-baugh’s ex-wives club; spousal support but not much love.
49, Flatulent? OMG.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:44 pmOooh, looky – a troll who thinks he’s smart!
How cute!
(Pssst, troll – if you were *truly* so smart, you wouldn’t be listening to that corpulent bag of shit Rush.)
November 1st, 2009 at 12:46 pmWithout Rush there would be no Beck or Hannity or Savage ….
Rush, bringing out the wackos, is not something to be proud of.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:46 pmWhat Limbaugh is practicing is sometimes also referred to as the ministry attack, hardly new, in fact its very old.
They are the demons! Look over there! They are casting spells on our congregation! You have sinned because of them!! Its not your fault! We must ourselves then perform imprecatory prayer for their demise and curse them!!
November 1st, 2009 at 12:49 pmFish Ranch Road says:
Zoo, East Bay it is.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:44 pm
So amazed I remember that. Thanks!
On to the troll whacking!
November 1st, 2009 at 12:51 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Who is he trying to kid? Is there anyone who doesn’t think Limbaugh’s ego is absolutely huge?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:54 pmLimbaugh has much less influence on elections and public opinion than he gives himself credit for.
He couldn’t keep Bill Clinton from being elected twice, despite his best efforts. He couldn’t even keep Al Gore from winning the popular vote in 2000. And I believe his beloved W left office with a 30% approval rating as opposed to Clinton who was close to double that when he left (and at sky high ratings at the height of the impeachment hearings).
He may have had some impact on the 1994 Congressional elections and a few thereafter, but certainly not in 2006 and 2008. And even now the Repubs are polling at record-low numbers.
Keep talkin’ Rush!
November 1st, 2009 at 12:55 pmYou folks still don’t get it: Take a look at the latest findings regarding “literacy” in America…you keep throwing around stats related to Rush’s influence.
I wasnt the one who first posted Limbaughs stats.
But tell me, please, how Limbaughs show teaches people to read?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:56 pm@ 57. Xisithrus says: What Limbaugh is practicing is sometimes also referred to as the ministry attack, hardly new, in fact its very old. They are the demons! Look over there! They are casting spells on our congregation! You have sinned because of them!! Its not your fault! We must ourselves then perform imprecatory prayer for their demise and curse them!! November 1st, 2009 at 12:49 pm
And yea verily, I say unto you, my chilluns, that whilst one of you standing upon the stump shall shout, “There be demons”, and point and wave wildly to the right (the rube’s left), his brothern and sistern shall pass quietly through the crowd, picking the pockets of the much entertained rubes. Now go forth and do our work among the heathens…
November 1st, 2009 at 12:56 pmAnd a malignancy spread across the land, gathering the strong, the educated, and the foolish. Many shall reap the whirlwind and wonder what has beset them. The others shall pick themselves up and go about their daily lives without hindrance or fear.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:58 pmAnd if there are people failing to learn to read then how do we fix the problem instead of pointing fingers CBM?
I am not interested in the tranfer of blame and arguing over who did or said what CBM. If there are that many people who cant read/write then arent we then, as a whole, failing to create a more perfect union as the constitution wrote we should strive for?
November 1st, 2009 at 1:00 pmVP @ 63
Heh
November 1st, 2009 at 1:01 pmZooey says:
I tell ya, the trolls just don’t have the staying power they used to have. *sigh*
Nor the intelligence…
Nor the capacity for critical thought…
Nor the originality…
Whoever’s making these trolls, they must be leaving something out of the recipe. Or they’re not stirring the pot long enough. Something’s not right. They used to be so much better than the ones we have now. Oh, well.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:01 pmCbmaxwell says:
November 1st, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Link to that study, and we can take a look at the methods. Thanks.
BTW, you do know that illiteracy in America didn’t start on January 20, 2009, right?
November 1st, 2009 at 1:03 pmTo #59 -
Funny how only NOW the debt becomes an issue – not when Bush was turning a surplus into a deficit by giving away trillions of dollars worth of tax cuts, mainly to the wealthy.
Only 10% of the current year’s deficit is solely attributable to Obama, as opposed to 37% due to the recession, 33% to programs put in place by Bush and 20% to programs put in place by Bush and continued by Obama, including the wars, which Bush never used to put in the budget. At least Obama is honest.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:05 pmAnd now, look, now look what’s out — all this conservative media. Conservative talk radio, television, Fox News, the conservative blogosphere.
So then why does the conservative media complain that the mainstream media is liberal? Certainly, if the conservative viewpoint was mainstream, then it stands to reason that the mainstream media would also be conservative. But they are not.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:07 pmNext Sunday, Little Chrissy WailAss has “exclusive interview” on FoxSnooze Sunday with Becky Doody.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:07 pm59, “Is our children learning?”
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Don’t tell me conservatives aren’t funny:
Rush Limbaugh isn’t endorsing Sarah Palin for president in 2012 but he says she’s ready for the job now.
“One thing I do not do is follow conventional wisdom, and the conventional wisdom of Sarah Palin is “She’s not smart enough. She needs to bone up on the issues. She’s a little unsophisticated. Alaska, Where’s that?, [She] doesn’t have the pedigree,’” Limbaugh told Fox News’ Chris Wallace. “She’s the only thing that provided a spark for the Republican Party. This is not an endorsement, but i do have profound respect for Sarah Palin. There are not very many politicians who have been through what she’s been put through and still able to smile and be ebullient and upbeat. This woman, I think, is tough,” he said.
___
Meanwhile Sarah’s future ex-son-in-law Levi (he’s so cute!) is preparing to pull his pants down for a photo shoot with Playgirl magazine.
h/t C&L
November 1st, 2009 at 12:16 pmLiberals by their nature, are critical thinkers. Conservatives, by their nature, are more likely to prefer to be told what to think and to not question those in authority above them. I am not making that up. Google “Jonathan Haidt” “Why People Vote Republican.”
November 1st, 2009 at 12:17 pmLiteracy issues are related directly to government run school systems which must cater to the lowest common denominator in the classroom
When I was in school those children were held back. This NCLB act [severely underfunded] simply teaches the kids how to pass a test and has resulted in schools having their funding removed resulting in less instruction and likely driving up the illiteracy rates.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:19 pm73, And you’re out playing golf. See ya at the 19th hole ;)
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“She’s not smart enough. She needs to bone up on the issues. She’s a little unsophisticated. Alaska, Where’s that?, [She] doesn’t have the pedigree,’” Limbaugh told Fox News’ Chris Wallace.
Limbaugh also said that “We have a hotty on the ticket” as a rational, I s’pose, to vote for her because of her looks.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:22 pmAnd whats up with this pedigree talk?
That reeks of elitism.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:23 pmThe fact is that liberal newspapers all across the country are losing circulation, not growing. -CBM
First, you seem to be buying into the myth that these papers are liberal, they are primarily centrist and are owned primarily by those who lean republican.
Besides that many who ID themselves as conservative vote democratic and watch the, as you say, ‘liberal’ media outlets.
I turned off the TV years ago.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:29 pmCbmaxwell says:
Literacy issues are related directly to government run school systems which must cater to the lowest common denominator in the classroom.
What you have us do with the “lowest common denominator” students?
Much of the illiteracy can be traced to the huge influx of immigrants, both legal and illegal.
Link, please. I can see that you have a problem with people who don’t look like you.
It has been reported that almost half of Americans currently get some form of assistance from the government, that means we have half sucking, and the other half paying. Not a good formula for a healthy society.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Again, link please. For someone who criticizes the lack of critical thinking skills in this country, it’s surprising to me that you expect us to just take you at your word — without using our critical thinking skills.
Also, what is you definition of “government assistance?”
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Rushbo should be the first one to hang for Treason amongst the fifty or so loudest traitorous scumbags that call themselves the Neo-clowns or whatever: Rush, Cheney, Bush, Rove, Rumsfeld, Crystal, Wolfowitz, Rice, Feith, Addington, Yoo, Bibee, Graham, Levin, Savage, Hannity traitors all.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:30 pmThey live in their liberal bubble and don’t have a clue of life between the coasts.
From National Ocean Service:
Seems like you don’t have a clue what your country is made up of.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:32 pmWhy would an organization called ” Excellence in Journalism” be reporting on the bullshit of “talk radio” which is not Journalism? Hmm, could it be the scumbags are all rightwing screaming machine dupes? http://www.journalism.org/about_pej/staff
November 1st, 2009 at 12:33 pmPapers are losing circulation, even Murdochs, due to the advent of the internet where people get their news when they want, from many sources, not because of people abandoning their ideology.
Should we save the papers?
Did we save the Pony Express and horse and buggy business as new innovations became available?
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They live in their liberal bubble and don’t have a clue of life between the coasts
Why do you insist on putting people into groups your imagination has conjured up and accepting it as truth?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:36 pmArbitron??
Talk radio is not journalism, it is, by its executives own words, opinion programming. A journalist would supply both sides of an argument and take a neutral stance allowing the reader to come away with their own opinion without finger pointing.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:37 pmThese two comments were posted by the same person. So I really have to question the idea of throwing ratings numbers out there as proof of anything, and why can’t they get them straight?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:38 pmCbmaxwell says:
So then why does the conservative media complain that the mainstream media is liberal?
Because they have an agenda. Use your critical thinking skills!
The fact is that liberal newspapers all across the country are losing circulation, not growing.
Correction: ALL newspapers are losing circulation. Critical thinking!
ABC, NBC and CBS stick to their liberal bias despite losing viewers to FOX.
Where is your proof that those viewers are turning away from NBC and CBS and TOWARD Fux? Critical thinking!
Do any of you seriously look to Katie Couric for NEWS?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Not at all. I’ve never seen it, since I don’t have television. Do you seriously look to Fux for NEWS? Seriously?
There’s your problem right there, buddy. You rely on Fox, who won a court case allowing them to lie to their viewers, and cranks like Rush and Glenn, who will literally say ANYTHING to get their ratings.
Please don’t continue with the “critical thinking” meme, you’re not using it, and we’re not buying your shtick.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:39 pmA n a l y z i n g the statistics, it would appear that conservatives listen to talk radio more than liberals. This does not make conservatives more informed or more correct or more moral. It appears to limit or actually prevent conservatives from thinking critically.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:40 pmSource: For half and half…half pay, half receive:
5% of insured account for 95% of payouts in the health insurance system.
Why is this simple fact ignored by so many?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:41 pmif half pay and half receive,
who’s left over to resent?
just cb, and the dittoheads.
still in denial over that whole “majority rule” concept…
poor dummies.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:42 pmMore about “JB Williams” here.
:)
November 1st, 2009 at 12:43 pm14.5 million tuned in weekly.
Lies, damn lies and statistics -Mark Twain
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95% of insured pay for the 5% claims.
Are you telling me your money doesnt go to pay for other peoples medical bills????
November 1st, 2009 at 12:45 pmSome people need to read up on how to post links to Illiteracy Statistics.
And did you know that 87.2% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:46 pmIf you think 2 trillion bucks of debt is change, wait till you see your next tax bill, that is if you make enough to pay.
Illiteracy Statistics
If you think Obama started with zero dollars in debt then you might want to take some courses on economics.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:47 pmCbMaxwell says: (I cannot understand why some of these flaming liberals voted you down CB. I believe everything you say espiecially the part about being smart enough to read and about eating up the part about hope and change):
I dont think anyone denied that illiteracy was a problem.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:48 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
This is a non-issue. Obama wasn’t singling out Fox News for being conservative; he was singling out Fox News for being a political organization for the opposition party. Limbaugh isn’t saying that Fox News is a political organization, but conservative media. There’s nothing wrong with that. If there wasn’t liberal media there would be no ThinkProgress. And it is obvious that ThinkProgress *is* a political organization, but you don’t claim to be a legitimate news organization either. Fox News does, shame on them.
ThinkProgress isn’t credible when it makes much ado about nothing.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:50 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I am simply trying to point out that conservatism is on the rise.
I live in Texas. Read the states history and you will see that for over a hundred years the state government was a run by majority of conservative democrats.
IE Its a mistake to assume that conservatives vote strictly for republican as many conservative pundits wrongly assume.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:52 pmLimbaugh isn’t saying that Fox News is a political organization, but conservative media.
Well, many are not differentiating between FOX news, the opinion programming section started by Roger Aisles, and the local FOX news channel. One is opinion programming and the other is actual news.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:54 pmPorkchop1950 says:
You folks still don’t get it: Take a look at the latest findings regarding “literacy” in America…
November 1st, 2009 at 12:44 pm
If you can work out how to link to those findings, Mr Illiterati, we’ll certainly take a look at ‘em.
Keep trying!
November 1st, 2009 at 12:57 pmSo, Porkchop1950 makes a comment complimenting CBmaxwell claiming to link to something about Illiteracy Statistics, I point out that there was no link, and CBmaxwell apologizes for not providing the link.
What am I missing here? Porkchop1950=CBmaxwell?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:57 pmCbmaxwell says:
November 1st, 2009 at 12:48 pm
So?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:57 pmAnd by conservative many people ID with that word because of their conservationist views. IE frugality. Whereas the person who coined the word meant it to be conservation of the old order which was an aristocratic one.
Others think conservatism is the christian religion. It isnt.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:58 pmjesus. Do I even want to bother?
November 1st, 2009 at 12:58 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
*handing baton to dbadass*
I have to finish this research paper. Have fun!
November 1st, 2009 at 1:00 pmI continue to find it amusing that a bunch of trolls show up to defend Lush Rimjob every time he ventures outside his studio or gets called out on his vile crap. One would think that he would be able to defend himself but, even the stupid trolls realize he can’t.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:01 pmpete, I think there’s just one troll. Again.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:02 pmJust a damn minute Zooey…
November 1st, 2009 at 1:02 pmCbmaxwell says:
November 1st, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Tsk tsk, you didn’t read the whole article!
Toodles for now.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:03 pmPresident Barack Obama’s effort to lead the world economic recovery by spending the U.S. out of its recession is undermining the dollar, triggering record commodities rallies as investors scour the globe for hard assets.
You seem to forget that process, which I dont adhere to, began with some 13 trillion in loans and guarantees during GWBs time in office.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:03 pmA large part of the problem came about because of derivatives gambling, some 600 trillion in bets. AIG lost its behind when the recession began in 2007 and was bailed out by the treasury to the tune of 180 billion because it did not maintain the capital required to cover those bets it had insured.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:05 pmWe bailed out an insurance company and people are telling me that we dont need insurance reform.
Sheesh.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:06 pmtriggering record commodities rallies as investors scour the globe for hard assets.
Investors/speculators were creating a commodities rally for years which resulted in the price of oil reaching 140 a barrel!
November 1st, 2009 at 1:08 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hi Cbmaxwell and Porkchop1950
November 1st, 2009 at 1:13 pmReally nice day here. Hope the same for you. So I was wondering what are your takes on K Street Whore? Wannabe attention seeker or true grit?
Wayne A. Schneider
One or many, it makes little difference. I just picture an amorphous, mindless, blob that throws out appendages like an amoeba.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:14 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
The stupid trolls just can’t seem to grasp the fact that our economic travails were, at least, thirty years in the making. The collapse was inevitable and predicted by many. It’s going to take a very long time to recover and everyone will bear a portion of the cost.
The funny part is that the Reichwhiners insist on blaming those who were screaming out the warnings.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:28 pmCbmaxwell sounds like our favorite “concern troll, B-Cup.
November 1st, 2009 at 1:28 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Limbaugh lumps Fox into “conservative media” and Fox doesn’t object? Why should they, when they try so hard to belong? A political machine is what Fox is. Why should they deny something that is so obvious?
November 1st, 2009 at 1:53 pmCbmaxwell says:
Literacy issues are related directly to government run school systems
WRONG. Studies show that IQ disparity is mostly linked to economic disparity.. and since America is the new 3rd world country thanks to trickle down economics and tax breaks for the rich – the blame is easily placed on Republican rule. On top of that, take a look at the under funded red state education system sometime – I’ve had the misfortune of living in a few of those states in my formative years.. it was like taking a step back in time – I recall going from Michigan in 1st grade beginning to study simple multiplication tables to Arkansas – back to rudimentary addition and subtraction. It was the same in other subjects like reading. It was like stepping into the way back machine – and guess what – I loved it. As a kid it made things a helluva lot easier, only later would I regret those lost years in the back woods.
I’m sorry to any who live in these states and had their education there, you can get a good education in the bible belt / heart land.. it’s just quite a bit more difficult to acquire.
So what cause illiteracy again CBM? Republican policy and anti-progressive ideology. They refuse to improve schools because they’ve noticed a direct correlation between higher intelligence and loss of Republican voters.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:06 pmCBMaxwell..
The dollar falls back when the stock market does well.. it’s complicated describing how it all works.. but simply put – the US dollar is considered a safe place for money.. in a storm of sorts. When the storm subsides.. people feel free to pull out and invest in other things. That’s a simple version – I’m by no means an economist or wall street trader.. the point being, that whenever the stock market does well – the dollar does poorly. It’s truly nothing to get worked up about – it’s BAU.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:11 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Cbmaxwell says:
John Wayne said, “Life is tough, but it’s even tougher if you’re stupid!”
November 1st, 2009 at 2:17 pm
You must really be having a tough time, poor thing.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:25 pmBTW, that’s “Frosty Wooldridge,” ya f uckin’ racist.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:26 pmYeah, CBM…. you’re taking your lessons from this retard? No wonder you are so f’d in the head.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:30 pmActually, the biggest problem with education is that we insist on giving juvenile fantasies like religion equal footing with real knowledge. As long as we reward people for their ability to deny their own senses?
November 1st, 2009 at 2:31 pmIgnorance is bliss
[you wouldnt know if your ignorant]
November 1st, 2009 at 2:35 pmMax links to the Jeff Rense website–a gathering place for loons, trolls, conspiracy nuts, new-world-order claimers, ufo investigators, etc.
That site is fun if you’re really, really snockered.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:35 pmA conspiracy requires only three people. Two insiders and one patsy.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:39 pmFrosty Wooldridge?!
Talk about snockered–he writes like he’s half in the bag on schnapps or cheap vodka.
I got better nuts on my pecan trees.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:39 pmA phrase of absolutely no meaning, used by bloggers to shut down debate on their sites.
—–
Wanna debate that?
November 1st, 2009 at 2:41 pmI truly will not pursue the topic of religion after this statement.. but I must point out one thing.
Pete, in what way do you answer the fact that the moon and the sun appear exactly the same size in the sky during a solar eclipse? What science do you use to account for such an anomaly? Or do you just say.. like all things – such as the existence of life in the first place.. that it is just an amazing sequence of coincidences? And how is it you explain planets which travel in retrograde – In reverse? Though some have proposed computer models to account for things like this in the early forming of the universe.. I hardly find them convincing.
Before attacking religion – I’d hope you come up with your own explanation.. or you are just another party of ‘no’, with no answer of your own.. but a tremendous objection to those who have an explanation.
Now could we please keep politics and religion separate.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:46 pmNow could we please keep politics and religion separate.
You should tell Limbaugh, Beck, Buchanan, Inoefe, et al. to do the same, lux. I’m afraid they have been doing that for years.
November 1st, 2009 at 2:51 pmCbmaxwell says:
I had to go to the Urban Dictionary to understand that one Wolf359…curious, which definition applies? CB
November 1st, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Probably one of the other three definitions you failed to note.
Hey, how about “critical thinking?” Gonna try it sometime?
November 1st, 2009 at 2:53 pmThose who wish to call me a racist for pointing out unchecked immigration contribute to illiteracy show the weakness in their argument. Name calling does not refute the facts.
Try this:
The 1965 Immigration Act: Anatomy of a Disaster By: Ben Johnson
FULL STORY IS HERE: FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, December 10, 2002
America’s current mass immigration mess is the result of a change in the laws in 1965. Prior to 1965, despite some changes in the 50’s, America was a low-immigration country basically living under immigration laws written in 1924. Thanks to low immigration, the swamp of cheap labor was largely drained during this period, America became a fundamentally middle-class society, and our many European ethnic groups were brought together into a common national culture. In some ways, this achievement was so complete that we started to take for granted what we had achieved and forgot why it happened. So in a spasm of sentimentality on the Right and lies on the Left, we opened the borders.
Born of liberal ideology, the 1965 bill abolished the national origins quota system that had regulated the ethnic composition of immigration in fair proportion to each group’s existing presence in the population. In a misguided application spirit of the civil rights era, the Kennedy and Johnson Administrations saw these ethnic quotas as an archaic form of chauvinism. Moreover, as Cold Warriors facing charges of “racism” and “imperialism,” they found the system rhetorically embarrassing. The record of debate over this seismic change in immigration policy reveals that left-wingers, in their visceral flight to attack “discrimination,” did not reveal the consequences of their convictions. Instead, their spokesmen set out to assuage concerned traditionalists with a litany of lies and wishful thinking.
Chief among national concerns was total numeric immigration. Senate floor manager and Camelot knight-errant Ted Kennedy, D-Massachusetts, assured jittery senators that “our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually.” Senator Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, further calmed that august body, insisting “the total number of potential immigrants would not be changed very much.” Time has proven otherwise. Average immigration levels before the 1965 amendments took effect hovered around 300,000 per annum. Yet 1,045,000 legal immigrants flooded our cities in 1996 alone.
The 1965 “reform” reoriented policy away from European ethnic groups, yet implemented numbers similar to 1950’s rates in an attempt to keep immigration under control. However, Congressmen managed to miss a loophole large enough to allow a 300 percent in immigration, because they did not take into account two “sentimental” provisions within the bill. Immediate family members of U.S. citizens and political refugees face no quotas. Their likely impact on the nation was ignored, presumably because aiding families and the dispossessed cast the right emotive glow.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:00 pmlux says:
Pete, in what way do you answer the fact that the moon and the sun appear exactly the same size in the sky during a solar eclipse? What science do you use to account for such an anomaly?
November 1st, 2009 at 2:46 pm
You cannot be serious…
The sun is much larger than the moon, but it’s much farther away — about 93 million miles away, and the moon is about 250,000 miles away. The ratios of distance and size are currently just right to make them appear the same size in the sky, so the moon appears to block the sun during a solar eclipse.
I hope that helps.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:00 pmlux,
Actually, the Sun and Moon do not always appear to be exactly the same size during an eclipse. The orbits of the Earth around the Sun, and the Moon around the Earth, are not circular so there is a small difference between eclipses. That’s why there are two kinds of eclipse, total and annular. In fact, each eclipse is different if not unique.
The reason that they appear to be nearly the same size is because the Moon is small and close while the Sun is big and, relatively, far away.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:01 pmJinx, pete. :D
November 1st, 2009 at 3:03 pmYeah whatever, Cbmaxwell.
*yawn*
November 1st, 2009 at 3:07 pmPlus, I would be delighted to keep religion and politics separate but many of our politicians keep insisting on letting their religious Beliefs guide their decisions. We also tend to really screw up children when we give Belief equal footing with knowledge.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:07 pmGreat minds think alike, Zooey. And, apparently, so do ours.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:09 pmAnd while we are at it, take a look at this FACT:
Justice Dept. Figures on Incarcerated Illegals
| March 27, 2006 | Carl Limbacher
Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 8:07:14 PM by Carl/NewsMax
One of the more popular claims by illegal immigration proponents is that those who enter the U.S. by breaking the law are invariably “hard-working” and “law-abiding” once they get here.
That argument, however, has one major flaw. According to Justice Department statistics and the analysis of immigration experts, the “law-abiding” claim often isn’t true.
As Investors Business Daily reported in March 2005:
“The U.S. Justice Department estimated that 270,000 illegal immigrants served jail time nationally in 2003. Of those, 108,000 were in California. Some estimates show illegals now make up half of California’s prison population, creating a massive criminal subculture that strains state budgets and creates a nightmare for local police forces.”
Citing an Urban Institute study, director of research for the Center for Immigration Studies Steven Camorata noted in 2004: “Roughly 17 percent of the prison population at the federal level are illegal aliens. That’s a huge number since illegal aliens only account for about 3 percent of the total population.”
Former California Gov. Pete Wilson places the percentage of illegal aliens in U.S. prisons even higher. In 2001, he told Fox News Channel’s Bill O’Reilly:
“We had problems related to the costs of educating children who were acknowledged to be in the country illegally, healthcare costs. One in five in our prison population were illegal immigrants who had been convicted of a felony after entering the country illegally.”
The Federation for American Immigration Reform also turned to the Justice Department to get statistics on criminal aliens. They report:
“In March 2000, Congress made public Department of Justice statistics showing that, over the previous five years, the INS had released over 35,000 criminal aliens instead of deporting them. Over 11,000 of those released went on to commit serious crimes, over 1,800 of which were violent ones [including 98 homicides, 142 sexual assaults, and 44 kidnappings].
“In 2001, thanks to a decision by the Supreme Court, the INS was forced to release into our society over 3,000 criminal aliens [who collectively had been convicted of 125 homicides, 387 sex offenses, and 772 assault charges].”
Up to a third of the U.S. federal prison population is composed of non-citizens, according to Federal Bureau of Prisons statistics – but not all non-citizen prison inmates are illegal aliens.
As to the “hard-working” claim, CIS notes: “The proportion of immigrant-headed households using at least one major welfare program is 24.5 percent compared to 16.3 percent for native households.”
Investor’s Business Daily concurs: “Once [illegals] get here, they are 50 percent more likely to be on welfare than citizens.”
November 1st, 2009 at 3:15 pmNEWS MAX, Cbmaxwell!!
Jesus f ucking christ, consider your sources.
CRITICAL THINKING.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:18 pmInvestor’s Business Daily
**eyes rolling**
November 1st, 2009 at 3:20 pmlux: And how is it you explain planets which travel in retrograde – In reverse? Though some have proposed computer models to account for things like this in the early forming of the universe.. I hardly find them convincing.
They don’t travel in retrograde, genius. They only appear to reverse direction relative to an observer on Earth.
Sheesh.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:20 pmFine mow your own lawn…
November 1st, 2009 at 3:21 pmActually, only about a quarter of California’s prison population are not U.S. citizens and only a portion of those are here illegally.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:30 pmIt’s hard to cover the big lie in EVERY instance, huh, Chris?
November 1st, 2009 at 3:31 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
cbmaxwell, let me give you a hint…If I went over to Free Republic with an article by Mother Jones magazine, do you think I would be viewed as very credible?
November 1st, 2009 at 3:35 pmCbmaxwell says:
Perhaps you would prefer WorldNetdaily? LOL. You guys are amazing…how bout arguing facts, not sources.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Well, if that’s all you can come up with, doofus.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:42 pmCbmaxwell says: how bout arguing facts, not sources.
Better question: Why don’t you try addressing the topic of the thread rather than trying to divert it off topic, mmmkay?
November 1st, 2009 at 3:42 pmI am arguing with the stupid troll’s “facts”. And here’s my source, page 6.
http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cache:W_uLOPTEZvgJ:www.ppic.org/content/pubs/cacounts/CC_806ABCC.pdf+california+prison+demographic&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgkjGRxThJQNaavr6E5v4yegRjT5E-Mt9FjjE2lJThpB3vtkSmIhgbOGJLARUD_5gr7-7zg52ICu0aunG_kUQD0v8CiiyQl4pf9opXi-f4dBFm4ZZ0D6n2YN5evHafn5hlQwo4N&sig=AFQjCNEW2gAb3p5WofCtxeMwL8IC-6VcVw
November 1st, 2009 at 3:42 pmand that Gallup poll you cited, is a superficial one…Dwell deeper and ask on some policy issues, and you’ll find that there is a bit more than meets the eye.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:42 pmConservatives have done an excellent job in demonizing the opposition…demonizing liberals, and turning it into a four-letter word. When you look at conservative values, they revolve around helping the extremely rich at the expense of every one else. Ask if corporate America or the richest Americans pay too little in taxes, and a conservative will say they pay TOO MUCH. Most Americans will say too little. Most Americans would rather pay more taxes to insure that more people get covered by health insurance. Dive in deeper than some stupid superficial poll that asks you to label yourself. Most Americans don’t want to be called liberal even though they hold some liberal positions, because liberal means spineless, America-hating, terrorist/commie-loving wimps thanks to decades of conservative demonization.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:45 pmThis is embarrassing. I misread my own source. Only 17% of California’s prison inmates are foreign born. Sorry about the confusion.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:45 pmpete says:
I am arguing with the stupid troll’s “facts”. And here’s my source, page 6.
There you go again with your facts. Real “facts” can only come from Right Wing sources. Yours are obviously tainted by Liberals and can be discounted immediately. Besides, look at all those words!
November 1st, 2009 at 3:53 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
gummitch,
I know it’s probably futile but, if we don’t occasionally try to educate the stupid trolls then we carry a share of the blame. Plus I find it hard to let BS stand unchallenged.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:04 pmJust curious…to return to topic…for all you who are bashing Rush and the “right” do you ever listen to him, or visit his website, where the whole show is transcribed each day?
November 1st, 2009 at 4:06 pmNope. I don’t listen to proven liars, bigots, and fools.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:15 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Most of those who have no income tax liability pay other federal taxes like Social SECURITY and Medicare. So your talking point is not as sturdy as it might seem…
November 1st, 2009 at 4:29 pmI’m citing different polls where they go deeper than “are you liberal or conservative?”
November 1st, 2009 at 4:30 pmCbmaxwell says:
And you would “know” that he is a proven liar, bigot and a fool because…?
Because it’s been repeatedly documented and because transcriptions have been made available by people with stronger stomachs than mine. Years ago, I’d listen to him on the car radio and had plenty of exposure to his distortions and outright lies.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:31 pm@ 83. Cbmaxwell says: … Audience Demographics
The talk radio audience is largely male, relatively young and ideologically conservative, although not necessarily Republican. Talkers magazine put the party breakdown in 2007 at 23% Republican, 14% Democratic, and a majority, 58%, independent. … more than 36% of the talk audience is between 25 and 44 years old, compared with 22% in the news/talk/information grouping. Talkers magazine’s Talk Radio Research Project, released in the fall of 2007, found that talk listeners tend to identify themselves as conservative (38%), … November 1st, 2009 at 12:29 pm
I like the demographics for ‘talk ra-did-io’. If my recollection of voter demographics is still valid (haven’t looked up the numbers recently), the talk radidio listener demographic of young, male, and conservative or independent is also the demographic that might be best described as “least likely to vote” and “probably not really registered to vote”.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:33 pmHere’s one on health care…
the 2008 American National Election Study
November 1st, 2009 at 4:35 pmCbmaxwell says:
And you would “know” that he is a proven liar, bigot and a fool because…?
It’s documented on various sites and there’s even audio of him, but I forgot…It’s all satire, or a leftist conspiracy to discredit him…
November 1st, 2009 at 4:38 pmVirtual Pebble says:
I like the demographics for ‘talk ra-did-io’. If my recollection of voter demographics is still valid (haven’t looked up the numbers recently), the talk radidio listener demographic of young, male, and conservative or independent is also the demographic that might be best described as “least likely to vote” and “probably not really registered to vote”.
Interesting column by David Brooks here:
The reality is that Right Wing Radio/TV makes a tremendous amount of noise but has virtually no real influence over elections. They do get GOPers to look ridiculous pandering to the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity, but the end result is a Republican Party sinking deeper into the sh!thole.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:41 pm@ 125. Cbmaxwell says: “What am I missing here? Porkchop1950=CBmaxwell?” NO, I am not Porkchop1950…Wayne…here is literacy story link which I failed to provide in my original post…and did link with an apology.
http://www.rense.com/general88/dumb.htm November 1st, 2009 at 1:16 pm
WTF? CB, you’re posting something from a racist hack (Frosty Wooldridge? gimme a break…) and you expect his numbers to be taken seriously? Sheeyit, if you’d at least quote something from the Heritage Foundation or the American Enterprise Institute you’d at least have half a chance of having data that had been properly vetted.
Gawd help us all. Are all of today’s trolls this daffy? (you don’t have to answer that, dbadass. I think I already know the answer.)
November 1st, 2009 at 4:49 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hegelian dialectic? WTF? I’ll see yer Hegelian dialectic and raise you a Wittgenstein and a Lord Bertrand Russel’s “Principia Mathematica.” Synthesis, antithesis, synthesis is just some syllogistic cheese in the great taco of algorithm construction…
Hm. I’d vote for CB as being a concern troll of the thread derailing sort; since he’s a Frosty Wooldridge fan and Frosty is, or at least was, a bicyclist*, maybe we should call CB and his general troll type a derailleur troll.
*Don’t go all “Huffy” on me, bikers. I’ve owned a bike or two and am considering finding a nice sidewalk cruiser to peddle around town…
November 1st, 2009 at 5:11 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer who is allowed through “freedom of speech” to get his message of hatred to millions of people. Fortunately, when main stream had a real opportunity to respond, the resoundingly voiced their rejection of his ideology. That is the real measure of America. The tea baggers, KKK, birthers, haters, beckers all exist in their vacuum and do nothing to advance the nation. Fortunately, when it mattered the players and the owners stood up “for America”.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:15 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Cbmaxwell KKK:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:35 pmFrosty Wooldridge is a racist dog turd who posts on former Klux Klux Klan leader David Duke’s website.
Of course, you’re using Brent Bozell’s Media Research Center as your source, so the aura of objectivity so crucial to credible analyses of fact is missing…
but beyond that, most of those “good press” stories turn out, on closer examination, to refer to polling results during the campaign. For instance, “Obama gains two points over last week’s numbers” would be counted as a “positive” story for Obama, and since he had the bulk of the good news fall on his side of the table during the campaign (you know, a surge in poll numbers from mid-September through the election, not having an interview celebrating “what we’ve done for the banking sector” appear the very same week that the banking sector collapsed, choosing a responsible, qualified adult to be his running mate, that sort of thing) it makes sense that the balance of the “positive press” would go to the candidate who eventually won.
The implication that this “positive press” was somehow the result of an unfair bias rather than an accurate reflection of the course of the campaign is a little dishonest, don’t you think?
Or perhaps I misread your comment, and you weren’t actually implying bias.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:43 pmCbmaxwell KKK says:
Media Research Group owns Newsbusters, so anything posted by that far right wing astroturf spin machine will not be taken seriously here.
Progressive media watchdog group Media Matters for America has also repeatedly criticized the MRC, charging they view the media “through a funhouse mirror that renders everything–even the facts themselves–as manifestations of insidious bias
November 1st, 2009 at 5:47 pmCBMaxwell KKK, looks like the trolls are branching out from the usual pack of nazis.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:54 pmSince only 50% of Americans pay income tax, how can you possibly make this statement? Since only half pay income taxes, it is patently false to say “most Americans” would “rather pay more taxes.” Where in the world do you come up with that? You mean, most po’ people would rather taxpayers pay “more taxes” so THEY can get “free” coverage? They already do with Medicaid.
I’m sorry. Maxwell, but this has convinced me you have no damn idea what you’re saying and that you’re just repeating random conservative talking points and blanket statements about how, because people don’t pay an income tax, that automatically means they are poor/illegal/etc.
I am a state worker that earns 27,000 a year, which is very stable in my area, not on any subsidized income. When my taxes were added out I didn’t pay federal income tax last year. Does that mean I’m automatically poor and trying to milk the system? No. I paid state taxes and they take tax out of my paycheck every two weeks. And the year before that I paid federal income – not a lot, but I still paid. It was simply that this year for whatever reason I didn’t have to write a check to the IRS.
Seriously, stop making stupid insinuations without backing it up with credible, non-racist sources. Damn.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:55 pmYou know what’s really shocking? A survey of press coverage conducted by Ralph Media Research found that last june, from the 5th to the 19th, the broadcast networks and major newspapers treated the LA Lakers to roughly ten times as many positive stories as the Orlando Magic.
In that two-week period, there were roughly 210 positive stories about the Lakers and only 12 negative ones. At the same time, there were 210 negative stories about the Magic, and only 12 positive ones.
With the press so far in the tank for them, it’s no wonder the Lakers won the series 4 games to 1.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:56 pmPapirini says:
Since only 50% of Americans pay income tax, how can you possibly make this statement? Since only half pay income taxes, it is patently false to say “most Americans” would “rather pay more taxes.” Where in the world do you come up with that? You mean, most po’ people would rather taxpayers pay “more taxes” so THEY can get “free” coverage? They already do with Medicaid.
All I’m hearing is talking points and linked articles from far-right websites…and he has the audacity to ask us to be critical thinkers?
November 1st, 2009 at 6:00 pmMy bad. It actually looks like the MSM had roughly 17 times as many positive stories about the Lakers as about the Magic.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:00 pmIs this actually the troll who challenged us to be critical thinkers?
Nah, can’t be.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:01 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
All I’m hearing is talking points and linked articles from far-right websites…and he has the audacity to ask us to be critical thinkers?
This isn’t even a question of critical thinking anymore. It’s a question of whether or not he even understands which talking point he’s using to ‘disprove’ us. He’s gone from Rush to literacy to Medicaid and back again like an epileptic grasshopper.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:05 pmway to be condescending here…you expect us to take you seriously but all you’re doing is expecting us to swallow right-wing propaganda and then attacking those who disagree with you…
November 1st, 2009 at 6:06 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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By definition you live on a subsidized income since you are a self described “state worker.” You are subsidized by taxpayers and produce nothing.
I work for the State of New York as a bill and law proofreader. My job is to make sure that there are no mistakes in laws, bills and the state budget so that the millions of lives that are affected by the laws passed by our Legislature aren’t affected in a way unintended by the writers of those bills – one word can make a big difference in how a law is carried out. My department also certifies law books and publications so that schools, colleges, law firms, government workers and anyone else who needs to know the law can have access to it. My job, as little as it pays, is pretty damn in important when push comes to shove, and produces a necessity.
….I’m sorry, what did you say you did for a living?
November 1st, 2009 at 6:12 pmWay to play victim here, after all it’s what your side does best. Your first comment here, “You pinheads don’t get it” and now you expect civility from us? Sorry, it doesn’t work that way…
But the fact is when people who claim to represent the conservative side spew racism and the mainstream on your side does little to condemn it, it doesn’t do much to dispel the stereotype that conservatives are racists…and it doesn’t help your cause when you resort to scapegoating when it comes to illiteracy…sure, you might not think you’re racist and maybe you aren’t, but as you well know, perception is reality and the perception here is if you’re not racist at best, then you’re repeating racist talking points…
It doesn’t help when Rush makes a racist joke or comment when conservatives rush to his defense by saying it’s only satire…It doesn’t help to dispel the stereotype that conservatives if they’re not racist, only defend racism when it comes to freedom of speech.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:16 pmCbmaxwell says:
I was referring to someones earlier comment that “most Americans would rather pay more tax” to “give” the unwashed masses “free” health coverage and treatment. Maybe it is “true” that “most Americans” want a free lunch, but I think it is fair to say, “Most TAXPAYERS” don’t want to see increases in their taxes to the government who then “pays” to their own special interest groups.
Here was the poll which I didn’t link to, I was talking about the polls that suggest that taxpayers might be open to paying more taxes if it meant universal health coverage for all Americans…
November 1st, 2009 at 6:18 pmCbmaxwell says:
By definition you live on a subsidized income since you are a self described “state worker.” You are subsidized by taxpayers and produce nothing.
Tell that to the cops and firefighters in your area. Or to the people that keep your water clean and your food free of mouse crap.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:19 pmWell said, Papirini.
Anyone who believes that state workers “produce nothing” is a flat-out idiot.
I wonder if our new friend would like to live in Somalia? After all, there’s no functioning government there, and thus no “subsidized state workers” to reduce his take through taxes.
Of course, there are none of the protections that a well-designed, functioning government provide to its citizens, either, but since our friend seems such a “bootstraps” kind of guy, I’m sure that wouldn’t be a concern for him.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:19 pmCbmaxwell says:
Paprini:
I am a state worker that earns 27,000 a year, which is very stable in my area, not on any subsidized income.
By definition you live on a subsidized income since you are a self described “state worker.” You are subsidized by taxpayers and produce nothing.
Wow. Can you imagine if no one worked for government?!?!?!?
November 1st, 2009 at 6:21 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Anyone who believes that state workers “produce nothing” is a flat-out idiot.
Completely. There are days when I don’t get home until the next day, working a full 24-hour shift, and I don’t get any overtime or special bonus for it. It gets extremely stressful and it’s been especially so this year with the coup and the budget being re-written for the umpteenth time in 6 months to accommodate for the economy.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:26 pmAnd how is that working out for our economy? Your type of “tinkle-down” economics has pretty much devastated the middle class and shed jobs like a collie in July.
Your tendency to blame those who are unemployed as somehow unworthy of basic services and support rings more than a little hollow when there are more than six applicants for each job opening nationwide.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:29 pmThe question is this: do you want to pay MORE taxes, to support those who don’t work? I help companies grow their businesses through right use of all available media.
Jumping around again. My question is whether or not you’re going to apologize for what you said about me and my job. Because it’s one thing to make fun of me for being liberal-minded, it’s entirely another thing to call the integrity of my job and the jobs of dozens of others into question, because most of the people I work with don’t go to this site and can’t defend themselves from your slander. B|
November 1st, 2009 at 6:30 pmI bet the KKK troll regrets making fun of others poster’s
November 1st, 2009 at 6:30 pmgrammatical errors earlier in this thread.
Now you’re shifting the goal posts. You were talking about those who don’t make enough to be liable for federal taxes and we’ve already shattered that talking point. They pay other taxes such as sales taxes, they pay for Social Security, and Medicare.
So what’s your solution? Let’s not pay taxes and then what happens? Only the rich get access to the services that run our society like police, fire departments, schools, etc if we take the next logical step to privatize everything. Why do you assume that everyone who is uninsured is a good-for-nothing deadbeat? Because that’s the memo that has been fed to you, my friend by those in power.
Look at the public option, by not making it available to everyone in the House bill, the Democrats ensured its unpopularity because then it becomes framed as a welfare program.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:31 pmBoogaloo Shrimp says:
40, FRR thanks for the reminder. Wife number three “Marta” lived in a separate home away from El Rushbo. She stated publicly that one of the reasons for this was that the corpulent conservative commentator was “flatulent”.
No wonder he bounces around so much. He bounces when he’s on the air and he bounces when he’s making a speech.
YUCK
November 1st, 2009 at 6:31 pmThis is work debating you folks, but I will give you this, you never answer a question with an answer, but with a question. Food is a necessity, shelter is a necessity, fire and police protection are necessities, garbage men are a necessity…proof reading while no doubt noble, not sure it falls under the category…I would ask though, how would you know that legislation as written is “mistaken” since most legislation is written to obscure and be left open to interpretation by the regulators. And for those who are making the assertion that we have a “functioning government” may I point you to the SEC and Bernie? Or how about the revolving chairs between the FED and the banks? And where is that “stimulus” money going?
November 1st, 2009 at 6:32 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I would ask though, how would you know that legislation as written is “mistaken” since most legislation is written to obscure and be left open to interpretation by the regulators.
Like I said, one wrong or misspelled word or number can change the entire meaning of a law, even a whole section of law – 9 years for first degree robbery is reasonable, 99 years is not. And in a budget getting the numbers correct is essential, otherwise you could potentially default a governmental department, bankrupt a city, etc.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:37 pmAlso, your apology is accepted, Maxwell. :)
November 1st, 2009 at 6:38 pmI think I see where our new friend is going with this, folks… no public money should be spent on anything that is not a “necessity” — no, wait, let’s clarify this a little further — no public money is to be spent on anything that is not an IMMEDIATE necessity.
Do I have that about right, CB?
And it goes without saying that the perspective used to determine what is a qualifying immediate necessity is your own, correct?
The idea that the state legislature employ people to proofread legislation before it is enacted probably was born out of necessity — legal accuracy, clarity of intent, that sort of thing. It may even have been in response to a disastrous episode of unintended consequences traced back to poorly expressed language.
But because our new friend sees it as some sort of “luxury” (my word, not his) it does not reach the level of necessary government service, no matter how useful it has proven to be.
And of course, he leans on his own anti-government bias (”most legislation is written to obscure and be left open to interpretation by the regulators.”) to support his otherwise threadbare argument.
Did I say “otherwise”? Scratch that. Even with his bias-fueled argument, his whole premise is threadbare at best.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:40 pmYou posted links to someone who blogs for David Duke, and earned the letters KKK.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:47 pmHey if Papirini can accept my apology, the rest of you should…let’s see what you think of this factoid…
Do Members of Congress Pay Social Security Taxes?
Lawmakers do pay 8 percent of their salaries into their pension system, although this only compensates for about 1/5 of the typical lifetime benefit. We cover the rest as taxpayers.
Member of Congress began to pay into Social Security in 1983, as part of a government-wide pension overhaul.
In addition, Members of Congress DO NOT draw the “same pension” as their pay in the last year of office as suggested in a rumor circulating on the Internet; only federal judges do that under the term “retirement pay.” Still, the formula is quite generous, and, with 20-25 years, a Member of Congress could retire with up to 80 percent of his or her salary replaced. Of course, the only cap on how fast their benefits rise is the rate of increase in CPI. For this reason, Congressional pensions can and frequently do exceed a Member’s final salary, but only after a few years in retirement, when COLAS begin to kick in.
In the final analysis, Congressional pension benefits are 2-3 times more generous than what a similarly-salaried executive could expect to receive upon retiring from the private sector. That ought to be enough to concern any taxpayer.
SOURCE: HERE
November 1st, 2009 at 6:49 pmWhy do people on the right think that income taxes are the only kind of taxes we pay? Do they not realize that the vast majority of them could still pay more if income taxes were lowered but FICA and gasoline taxes were raised?
November 1st, 2009 at 6:55 pmI am NOT anti government, I am anti CORRUPT government…which is no longer a government of “we the People.” If you folks aren’t concerned by the cozy relationship between the banks, the FED, and the US Treasury…”follow the money” said DeepThroat.
FROM:
What are those five large banks? According to the OCC, they’re JP Morgan Chase (JPM), Goldman Sachs (GS), Bank of America (BAC), Citibank (C), and Wells Fargo (WFC). Add up their “total derivatives” numbers in Table 1 of the latest OCC report, and you get $197 trillion, which is indeed 97% of the $203 trillion in total notionals.
But never mind that, and take a look at Table 2 instead. That shows the notional amounts at bank holding companies, rather than banks themselves. Suddenly, the size of Bank of America’s derivatives holdings spikes from $39 trillion to $75 trillion, while Morgan Stanley appears from nowhere to reveal itself as holding a more-than-healthy $41 trillion in derivatives. It seems that at Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley (MS), the derivatives are generally held by the holdco rather than the bank, which allows the OCC to ignore them for the purposes of its headline calculations.
Add up the derivatives books at the holdcos, and the total isn’t $203 trillion any more: it’s $291 trillion — an increase of $88 trillion which is very hard to find in the OCC report unless you’re specifically looking for it. And never mind Wells Fargo, which was also something of an also-ran in the top five banks. The top five now comprise JP Morgan, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, and Citigroup, with derivatives holdings between them of $278 trillion. That’s 95% of the true total, or 137% of what the OCC would have you believe was the total.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:59 pmgotta go…been fun.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:05 pmSorry… statements like “most legislation is written to obscure” kinda made it sound like almost ALL government is “corrupt government” to you, making the two statements practically synonymous. And folks who espouse the kinds of philosophies that you have offered here (anti-tax, “government employees produce nothing”) frequently try to make the same distinction you made, but then their more general rhetoric invariably betrays their true positions.
And for what it’s worth, I read your apology to Papirini as sarcastic. The All caps “SURE” was kind of a giveaway. But it’s not really my business. If Papirini has enough class to accept it, then you’re good to go.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:44 pmHey Cbmaxwell, it’s not six grade, it’s sixth grade. Before you criticize someone else’s English skills, take a good long look in the mirror.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:54 pmralph the wonder llama says:
Is this actually the troll who challenged us to be critical thinkers?
Nah, can’t be.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Yep, that’s the one.
Wow.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:57 pmWell, two things are for certain. That troll doesn’t use any form of critical thinking, and he didn’t learn a thing today.
Of course, this was probably like any other day in that regard.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:00 pmThe scariest thing about what is going on in this country is the number of uninformed, non thinking people making comments like the ones I have just read about the interview. It is you that are causing the demise of our freedoms No matter what you think of Rush, at least try to pay attention to what he is saying, even Beck has not lied about one thing, so before you start spouting off , check the facts for yourself, and do something about it, because this country has been taken over by radical extremists, and only we the people can stop it, but we need to do it NOW !! So read your history books, see what Hitler, Chavez,Marx,Castro and others did at the beginning of there take overs and how they got away with it, It is identical to what Obama is doing,IDENTICAL !!!educate yourselves and then determine for yourself who is lieing and what is really happening here.I’m not a fan of any news organization or any political party.. But I do love this country and the constitution on which it was founded, and our constitution is being trampled on and dismissed by this administration, and yes also by the previous one too.
Please Educate yourselves before it is to late.
Thank you
God Bless America
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:57 ameven Beck has not lied about one thing
“I think that, deep down, he’s a racist.”
“I think he has a deep-seated hatred of white people and white culture.”
Still want to insist that Mr. Beck “has not lied about one thing”?
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:10 amRush’s ego could be as large as Obama’s if he only paid attention to about 10% of it.
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 am