Bob Schieffer Likens H1N1 Flu Vaccine Shortages To Hurricane Katrina
Bob Schieffer Likens H1N1 Flu Vaccine Shortages To Hurricane Katrina
This summer, the Obama administration announced that it would spend more than $2 billion to buy enough H1N1 flu vaccines to inoculate every American and said that companies could have up to 80 million ready by October. But only a fraction of those vaccines have been produced so far. “[W]e probably did overpromise, and we overpromised on the basis of what was represented to us” by the manufacturers, senior White House adviser David Axelrod said this week.
Some conservatives are now calling the mishap “Obama’s Katrina.” Today in an interview with Axelrod on CBS’ Face the Nation, host Bob Schieffer advanced that view:
SCHIEFFER: What do you do to correct this kind of thing? You’re told one thing, you’d have so much and you didn’t. These are the kinds of things we heard after Katrina during a previous administration.
NPR’s Juan Williams noted the huge distinction between the two situations on Fox News Sunday this morning:
WILLIAMS: I must say that there’s a huge difference between Hurricane Katrina in government failure and what we’re seeing here in terms of delivery of the vaccine. This is a matter of private manufacturers not living up to promises in terms of the delivery system. …But I don’t think most Americans are blaming the Obama administration for this as they blamed, as they said that President Bush’s administration failed to properly understand or pay attention to what FEMA was not doing with regard to helping Americans with Katrina.
Watch it:
Indeed, Williams is right, Americans aren’t blaming the Obama administration. According to a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll, “69 percent of respondents said they were confident in a federal response to the outbreak.”
Even conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer acquitted the Obama administration of responsibility over the vaccine shortages today on Inside Washington. “I would be inclined to blaming this all on Obama but I rise in his defense because…this stuff is extremely hard to do safely, it’s a long process. … I would give him a pass in terms of assigning political blame,” he said.
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November 1st, 2009 at 3:23 pmWait a sec — isn’t the model that conservatives promote?
Private companies supplying the goods and services, and the federal government simply coordinating delivery?
And when the private companies fail to deliver as promised, somehow it’s the government’s fault????
I’m getting the feeling that conservatives really don’t care about facts.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:24 pmThere’s an old joke–two Republicans are on Fox News, and one of them says, “H1N1 is an Obamanazi hoax and the vaccine will poison you!”
The other one says, “Yeah, I know, and such small portions!”
(With apologies to Woody Allen.)
November 1st, 2009 at 3:27 pmChimpy had the materiel and the capacity to act in the Katrina disaster and chose not to. It takes time and expertise to nail down exactly the right virus to grow painstakingly in millions upon millions of chicken eggs. Glad to see a shred of fairness in K-Hammer, but don’t expect it to last for long.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:28 pmComparing this to the Katrina response is a pretty big FU to folks in Louisiana, I expect to hear some pushback on this.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:29 pmI dont plan on getting a flu shot, never have, never will and I have yet to get the flu.
Give my shot to someone else. In fact give them my social security benefits I have paid in for some thirty years that I have never, or likely will, ever collect on.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:31 pmWhere was Schieffer when the R’s were “holding” the Surgeon General appointment?
How much money has he received from pig-farm corporations?
November 1st, 2009 at 3:33 pmAnywhoo, I find it ironic that many of the same folks, unlike Krauthammer on this issue, dont want everyone to have health insurance but want them to have government purchased H1N1 flu shots. Of course this generates huge profits for the flu shot makers so thats probably why they support it.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:34 pmXisithrus: I got a flu shot to (I hope) protect my family, but I am too “old” to get the Swine Flu shot. I had Swine flu in ‘68 (yea, I’m that old) and never got seriously ill again. An occasional cold. But I’d hate to catch SwFl and tho not getting too ill myself, pass it on to someone at risk.
PS: I tried to access your blog, but Camino says it doesn’t exist?
November 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pmSwi-Fli? cooool. I feel so clever.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:37 pmPS: I tried to access your blog, but Camino says it doesn’t exist?
ooo, that, yes, it was a joke and has never existed. I dont have a current blog but the old one is here http://nuttylittlenutnuts.wordpress.com/ [comments arent working] I do need to change the remove the URL attached to my moniker, thanks for reminding me!
November 1st, 2009 at 3:46 pmMeanwhile, there are a large number of people who don’t even want it. How can you compare that to Katrina? I’m pretty sure that anyone who needed help during Katrina would have said, “Thanks, but no thanks”.
Mid-South Parents Say “No” To Swine Flu Vaccine
(New York) City Parents Opting Out of Swine Flu Vaccine
Sounds like yet another case of a no-win situation the Obama has stepped into.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:48 pmSo why is it that the production shortfall is Mr. Obama’s fault????
Does he have a lab in the White House that is supposed to make this?????
Why are we allowing the media to make up stuff???????
November 1st, 2009 at 3:49 pmI’m pretty sure that anyone who needed help during Katrina wouldn’t have said, “Thanks, but no thanks” I meant of course.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:49 pmMy only consolation is that every time someone invokes “Katrina” to criticize someone else, well that just reminds us how inept the previous administration was!
November 1st, 2009 at 3:50 pmThe Republicans will throw anything against the wall to see if it sticks. One of these days it’s going to blow up in their face.
Compairing Katrina to the present H1N1 flu outbreak and lack of vaccines is a clear cut demonstration how lame the Republicans really are, and appearently out of touch with reality.
I honestly don’t think the Republicans can help themselves, they are grasping at anything. I guess they are far more desperste than I thought.
November 1st, 2009 at 3:52 pmI prolly need to read up more on H1n1, but couldnt people be carriers without actually having the Swiflu?
November 1st, 2009 at 3:53 pmThe radical right is not too kind to their own who don’t keep the “hammer” down on Obama, you know the Krauthammer.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:02 pmWhy do the Republicans have their shorts in knots over the vaccine shortage? I am sure the vaccine producers will make a handsome profit with this production of vaccine.
Capitalism at work, such magic.
(I think the shortage of vaccine is a Marxist, socialist, fascist plot to give capitalism a bad name).
Beck and Linbaugh will fill in the dots next week for us on the plot theory.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:02 pmIt’s Obama’s fault that the company lied to the White House and promised more than they could product?
I.DON’T.THINK.SO.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:03 pmBob Schieffer has always been a RePugniScum sucka$$. Why should we expect something different today?
November 1st, 2009 at 4:04 pmIsn’t the Surgeon General supposed to take care of epidemic planning, understand the disease throughly, institute various programs & rules, and so on?
Funny, the Repugs put Obama’s Surgeon General nomination on Hold for, oh, about 9 months? Even knowing the Swine flu a’comin, and Avian Flu was still lurking, just waiting for birds to migrate north or south.
Thanks, Republican senator who HELD up the SG appointment.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:10 pmXisithrus says:
I dont plan on getting a flu shot, never have, never will and I have yet to get the flu.
Give my shot to someone else.
Part of the problem is that when the vaccination came out, the seniors gobbled up the available quantity even though, unless their immune systems were compromised, they probably didn’t need it. I am not getting a shot if it becomes available again because I want to leave the available vaccine to the people who need it (people with compromised immune systems and the very young).
November 1st, 2009 at 4:11 pmI dont think they really want to go with the Katrina meme, Bush knew about the coming hurricane and was briefed on it and later said he wasnt briefed. PBO does know about H1N1 and things are in the works to do something about it if it really does become a pandemic, which hurricanes are not.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:11 pmI concur
November 1st, 2009 at 4:12 pmThanks, Republican senator who HELD up the SG appointment
I wonder who bribed that/those Senators? The vaccine companies. maybe?
November 1st, 2009 at 4:13 pmYeh, they really should drop the SG hold it may come back to bite them.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:14 pmThe public often demonstrates it is not too informed, but the media thinks they are stupid.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:15 pmThe scientists at the laboratories are the ones who make the vaccine – this was planned for months ago – they promised delivery. They failed in their promises.
How does this translate to Obama’s failure – or even worse, a comparison to Katrina?
Actually, distribution is pretty orderly all things considered – the flu is not yet as rampant as they feared, so there is still time for vaccinations, which are expected to continue to be made and distributed.
The media is making a very sensationalistic story about the H1N1 flu but I often hear that we lose many people to ordinary flu each year. This one strikes young people, I know, but the media might be fomenting a kind of panic in the populace by headlining the deaths, and reporting the shortages.
The comparison Sehieffer made was unconscionable – there is no comparison between this flu season and Katrina.
Bob is a silly old fart friend of the shrub.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:16 pmIt’s Obama’s fault that the company lied to the White House and promised more than they could product?
And lets not forget all the cost overruns and delays on such things as V-22 Ospreys and the F-22 Raptor and that very expensive ship Zumwalt DDD-1000
November 1st, 2009 at 4:22 pmBig Pharman unable to supply vaccines President Obama for some reason thought he was going to have? Why is this on the back of Obama?
Maybe over the top but, could it just be the GNOP/corporate powers/corporate whores will do, hope and wish for anything to get into power again?
I trust none of those goons.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:25 pmI will never forgive Bob Schieffer for helping cheer on the walk up to the completely useless war in Iraq — the Botch War as I call it.
Bob Schieffer is war mongering scum.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:35 pmWillowOrchid,
November 1st, 2009 at 4:37 pmBesides the current pandemic, Swine Flu (H1N1); there have been two other recent ones. In 1957, Asian Flu (H2N2) made its World Tour in 1957 and Hong Cong Flu (H3N2), in 1968. The last pandemic of Swine Flu was in 1918. There was an isolated outbreak of Swine Flu in the Fort Dix area of New Jersey in 1976, but so many survivors from the 1917 outbreak were still alive that the virus could not establish a beachhead.
waltTheMan: Yes, and they were what I was referring to. I was under the impression at the time, in 68, that the flu was pandemic. My whole family was very sick. Only I did not get sick, till everyone else was well. I recall sleeping sitting up for three months afterward. Nasty sickness.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:41 pmAs vaccines are not being processed in a timely manner with this joke of a for profits HC system, isn’t this a good reason to dump it and get on board with the rest of the industrialized countries?
November 1st, 2009 at 4:41 pmFrom the wiki:
This is one more reason why you can’t trust this a$$tard, war mongering, loser.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:55 pmXisithrus says:
Yeh, they really should drop the SG hold it may come back to bite them.
October 29, 2009
The Senate, by voice vote, confirmed Dr. Regina Benjamin as the nation’s surgeon general amid a national emergency over the swine flu outbreak.
And the H1N1 Virus has decided to GROW SLOWLY. Nothing Obama or anyone else can Do about it.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:57 pmThe press has gone batsh$t crazy–Bachman must be catchy. Not one of them asks a question,that makes any sense, or is adding to the information base for viewers. And heaven forbid they actually do any research. They all take talking points from FOX and Luntz and just regurgatating the same BS. Everyone of the Sunday moring shows is garbage. You would think the President is growing the eggs for the vaccine in the WH basement! What a bunch of fools. All of them making more money that most of us will ever see.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:01 pmThis is the kind of comment that shows that the ‘news’ has ceased to be just that: news.
No one in the MSM seems to be able to think of anything new to say; they recycle the past even when it is utterly inappropriate to link it to the present.
IS this the legacy of postmodernism? When the old is always new again? I wonder. But with very few exceptions (McLatchy is one I can think of) not much that is actually new in terms of information ever appears in the MSM these days.
Recycling isn’t for the news, guys!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:02 pmThanks bob shceefer for exposing the wib hypocrisy!! It wuz insane the aboose they gave furmer president boosh for simply enjoying a piece of cake and pwaying the guitard!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:07 pmNow suddenly we right wingers want government to do something for us.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:10 pm“Even conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer acquitted the Obama administration…”
What did CK say after this? His style is to damn Obama by faint praise then really slam him on something else in the next sentence.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:11 pmYeah, all the people driven from their homes by this year’s flu will be herded into some sports stadium and left to rot.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:11 pmLook, we right-wingers stupidly thought (and projected onto the libs) that Obama advertised himself as a water-walker during the campaign. We’re simply demanding he use the magic wand the wibs prevented the victimized gw bush from using, that’s all.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:12 pmObama’s Katrina?
So the Republicans are now admitting that George W. Bush really fuched up the government’s response to Katrina? That’s a first.
They’ll be calling the next government snafu, Obama’s 9/11.
Funny how those sequels don’t quite have the impact as the originals.
To me, it only draws attention to how bad the previous administration was.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:13 pmWait a minute. Didn’t the trolls tell us that CBS is part of the liberal media that never questions anything President Obama does?
November 1st, 2009 at 5:15 pmWe will artificially link Obama to everything Bush did because it will help Bush look good in the history books, maybe in 75 years, moved up from 100 years.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:16 pmThis is another attempt to smear the president. The conservatives with their Obama phobia want to make him look as bad as they can. So they will play up anything, no matter how insignificant or out of his control, as something really bad. Simply put the conservatives hate how Bush is vilified and so they want to try and get the country to vilify Obama like they did with Bush.
If they keep this up they will quickly, if not already, become the laughing stock of this country. Heck just take a look at the Doug Hoffmen campaign and try to keep a straight face.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:18 pmWillowOrchid,
November 1st, 2009 at 5:18 pmYes, the 1917, 1957 and 1968 flus were all pandemics. Antibodies from the 1968 outbreak seem to have a passkey that seals out the current outbreak.
Xisithrus says:
I prolly need to read up more on H1n1, but couldnt people be carriers without actually having the Swiflu?
Doubtful. You wouldn’t carry it like the HIV virus, which you can have for years before getting sick from it or even knowing you have it. H1n1 viruses act fairly quickly.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:20 pmOctober 29, 2009
The Senate, by voice vote, confirmed Dr. Regina Benjamin as the nation’s surgeon general amid a national emergency over the swine flu outbreak.
Thanks Badger I was not aware of this.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:36 pmBob forgot to take his medication today. Everyone is looking to fine a way to excuse Bush or even say someone was worse then what happen in Katrina. Bob forgot the billions the Bush Administration paid for bird flu medician that didn’t work. But Rummy invested in the bird flu medican and made big money.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:37 pmNovember 1st, 2009 at 5:44 pm
I am not getting a shot if it becomes available again because I want to leave the available vaccine to the people who need it (people with compromised immune systems and the very young) -=BHB=-
I concur
http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1FLU/surveillanceqa.htm
While that sure is nice of you guys, 41% of deaths came from people in the 25-49 year old range. By far the largest impacted group out there.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:50 pmWhile that sure is nice of you guys, 41% of deaths came from people in the 25-49 year old range. By far the largest impacted group out there. -=Tundra=-
I am in that range and my POV hasnt changed. But thanks for the info.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:58 pmPresident Obama took the H1N1 outbreak SERIOUSLY… and appointed COMPETENT People to deal with it.
President Bush views Government Action as Inferior to a Privatized Solution….and set out to prove himself right.
Regardless of how one views Obama, ideologically…you can’t say he doesn’t take the job seriously.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:00 pmWhat a bunch of loons to even think of that comparison.
One: the lack of help to the Katrina victims was intentional and murderous.
Two: to this day men, women and children are displaced from each other and/or from their community.
Three: chimpy left one of own cities in ruins, like he did in Iraq and Afghan.
Four: chimpy used Katrina disaster as photops.
Five: chimpy praised horse fluffer whisperer for his great job.
Six: chimpy and teabaggers are just nuts to the core.
repugs want us to get sick, want us to die, want us to be poor, want us to walk everywhere and most of all they want us to understand their destruction and evilness on fellow human beings.
STUPID MFs.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:04 pmbtw, where’s my iced tea?
If chimpy was in-charge he would have privatized the distribution, paid millions to his buddies and then recall batches because of contamination.
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Thanks for confirming that blaming the President is a useless strategy, Beefswallower.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:24 pmA terrible Republican leader cannot be blamed for anything. But the small govt. types expect the demlib leader to deliver big government to them. We’re just getting ours, libs. Nothing to see here.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:24 pmJohn F’ng Kerry tried the same tactic against Bush in 2004. Blamed George for screwing up the flu vaccine that year, I think it got him elected or something.
Pass some of that pine nut gin this way Queefbleater.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:25 pmI bwame George Sowos for the entire pwogwessive moovemint!!!!
November 1st, 2009 at 6:26 pmBob Schieffer Likens H1N1 Flu Vaccine Shortages To Hurricane Katrina
Seems like we’ve had some trolls on TP making the same argument.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:27 pmThe media made up success stories for bush.
The media makes up failure stories for Obama.
Your librul media at work.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:33 pmPoll: Most don’t blame Bush for flu vaccine shortage
Majority of Americans point finger at drug companies
By Michael Ludden
CNN
Tuesday, October 26, 2004 Posted: 3:17 PM EDT (1917 GMT)
They probably will this time too, beefbeater, despite the best efforts of the podpeople. :)
November 1st, 2009 at 6:39 pmOT & Wow.. from NY’s 23rd…
Dede Scozzafava has endorsed the DEMOCRAT Bill Owens.
Huh?
November 1st, 2009 at 6:45 pmI thought I’d never see the day that I called Bob Schieffer and liar, but that’s what I’m doing. Come on Bob, I know you are trying not to get “Dan Rathered” by the right wing, but come on man. You need to take your geritol more often my old friend. This don’t even come close to Katrina. Apparently you can’t handle the pressure of being “fair” anymore, so you need to do us all a favor and quit. Look Bob, when you become so afraid that people on the right will call you names, or make you get fired, then it’s time to move on. By the way, I’m calling them like I see them, and “You are a coward” if you can’t call balls and strikes fairly.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:50 pmwalt the man: I wondered about that- if having the ‘68 flu would make me more resistant to this flu. My husband, who is younger than I and did not have the ‘68 flu, came down with a bad case of Swine flu: fever 103, chills, headache and a bad cough. I merely got a cough. My daughter (who I breast-fed) got a sore throat (I had her inoculated anyway).
November 1st, 2009 at 6:53 pmTundra,
November 1st, 2009 at 6:55 pmThe bandwidth of each of the populations varies from group to group. The zero to five group is 6 years wide while the 25 – 49 is 25 years wide. In addition, smaller family sizes mean a declining annual birth rate in the 6 – 24 group which is 19 years wide as well. From 50 on, you are either dead, dieing from addiction, or have a surplus of antibodies.
That’s what we get for meddling with the locally-picked candidate. Man we always f ourselves over time and again. I guess we’ll have to wear our clown costumes again just a few days after Halloween.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:57 pmThis is just another nail in the coffin for those attempting to claim that except for Fox News the networks are having a love affair with President Obama. Instead we have the steady drumbeat of outrageous and false claims by this “left wing” media.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:57 pmA bit off-topic, but still relevant (I hope), I actually got my H1N1 shot yesterday, as my mom is a nurse and offered it, and given a lot of the people I work with have kids and they’ve been getting what looks to be it and passing it around, it made sense. Unfortunately, it was a nasal shot, and not only that, she shot up 95 percent of it up one nose and it ended up dribbling onto my lip. It was rather gross.
So for those who don’t like shooting foreign objects up their noses, the H1N1 vaccine is not fun to get and you might want to wait until there is a needle in the arm version. :/
Right, back on topic.
I very much think there is no comparison to make, mainly because the vaccine is a voluntary choice to get, whereas I very highly doubt people in New Orleans asked for a hurricane to come ravage their homes and livelihoods. Plus, developing a safe vaccine (which is part of the reason for the delay, just like it is nearly every year with the flu vaccines, mind you) is important because you want to limit the potential side effects that people who get the vaccine, especially children, will end up experiencing. With the FEMA delay there is no such excuse, and not only that but many of their supplies had no known quality control exercised over them, what with the lead and asbestos in the trailers.
On other words, yes, it is imperative we have the vaccine, and it’s unfortunate there is a short supply at the moment. But this is likely a case of better safe than sorry and it’s not something to blame Obama for – it’s the normal vaccine development process that’s to blame, and I highly doubt we’re going to be understocked indefinitely.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:58 pmYou can blame all the swine flu deaths on Republican opposition to real health care reform. If we had a government run health care system, there wouldn’t be a shortage of the swine flu vaccinne.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:00 pmHoffman’s undisclosed assets include stock in torture chambers and unused crest whitestrips.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:04 pmAnd Bob Schieffer is a jerkwad, moronic, RePugniScum phuckup for comparing H1N1 Flu Vaccine Shortages To Hurricane Katrina.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:20 pmI am extremely disappointed in Bob Schieffer. It isn’t as if Obama ordered all H1N1 sufferers to be housed in the Astrodome in unsanitary conditions and were subjected to outbreaks of violence, and the President’s mother put a positive spin on the situation.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:46 pmI’ll give the administration a wide degree of latitude on this issue. I think too many people in the media are so hungry for rating that they’ll make a controversy out of everything. (Still somewhat better than people like Limbaugh who *create* controversy for ratings. He *is* controversy.)
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Art says:
They’ll be calling the next government snafu, Obama’s 9/11.
Fox ‘News’ is already way ahead of you.
Way back in March their headline read:
Is the Economic Crisis Obama’s 9/11? – First 100 Days of Presidency
The link is no longer available though. Which is no loss, of course, since it was total nonsense.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:53 pmHello Papirini, glad to see you are back and beside the dribbling nostril juice [ack!] doing well.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:55 pmMr. Duke, which wrongs of the country do you feel should go unrighted?
November 1st, 2009 at 7:55 pmMr. Duke – would that be opposed to, oh I don’t know, a Capitalistic government? Who would presumably exploit and suck dry the country for the gain of the top 1%?
November 1st, 2009 at 7:57 pmAt some point in every socialistic society, the Government becomes so all knowing and all powerful that they feel it is their duty to make right all the wrongs of the country -Meister Duke
Like the patriot act?
November 1st, 2009 at 8:00 pmAt some point in every socialistic society, the Government becomes so all knowing and all powerful that they feel it is their duty to make right all the wrongs of the country
I am sure you will provide some examples to bolster your case.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:03 pmWe were told we were attacked because we were free and laws were passed to remove some of those very freedoms. Are you saying Meister Duke that this wrong should not be righted in a democratic republic and can only be righted, wrongly, in a socialistic one?
November 1st, 2009 at 8:06 pmHow do we right the wrong that is Mr. Puke?
November 1st, 2009 at 8:09 pmI suggest simply laughing at his foolishness.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:13 pmralph the wonder llama,
You are right. Ridicule is the sincerest form of insult.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:17 pmI thought that according to the GOP, Katrina was a huge success for Bush. Next, Obama will be attacked for not cutting enough brush. They are so desperate they are flinging their own feces to see if it will stick to the ceiling.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:26 pmThe only cure for someone like Mr. Duke is internment in an education camp. He has been brainwashed and needs to be deprogrammed before he can be reintroduced into society, if he can ever be reintroduced at all.
Mr. Duke is a shining example of why Nazis were so hard to rehabilitate after WW2. It’s like trying to convince a member of a cult that their cult is doing harm to them and others. They do not participate in reality but see the world through the filter of their dogma.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:43 pmHello Papirini, glad to see you are back and beside the dribbling nostril juice [ack!] doing well.
Thank you, Xisithrus! As far as I know I haven’t suffered any bad side effects from the vaccine. And it really was gross, but thankfully I didn’t eat any of it. It probably would have tasted nasty.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:02 pmIf I remember correctly, didn’t the same thing happen during the Bush Administration with the Avian Flu? I remember when Senoirs were flipping out because the drug was scarce. As for comparing this to Katrina is bullsh*t. The vaccine makers missed the mark. The Katrina disaster was a failure of ALL the agencies. Local, State AND Federal. I thought everyone involved should have been fired or thrown out of office. That included Landriu and Mayor Nagin.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:19 pmIs there anyone here? It’s really quiet.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:31 pmP.D.
I’m here but I’m also watching the World Series and cooking dinner.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:40 pmdixie@95, Who are you rooting for? I live in PA, so I’m hoping the Phillies win. But to tell the truth, I never watch sports.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:49 pmP.D.
I do not give up clues like where I live, sport teams, etc. My anonymity is critical to me.
My best,
November 1st, 2009 at 9:55 pmdixie
dixie, That is wise. I guess I’m naive to think ANYBODY remains anonymous. Lord knows, the Righties are going nuts. But now I’m at an age where I don’t give a crap.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:58 pmWow. Twenty minutes and nobody. I guess I should clean my house or something.
November 1st, 2009 at 10:19 pmP.D.
I’ve admitted two facts here in the past. I used to work in the entertainment industry including at NBC on shows like Saturday Night Live, The Today Show and Live at Five (a local news program in NYC.)
Then I became a computer programmer.
One new fact. I used to write a monthly column for a national computer magazine.
None of those facts will give anyone a clue as to my identity.
I use a non-routable IP address online.
L8R,
November 1st, 2009 at 10:27 pmdixie
dixie, Now I’m intrigued. You are obviously more educated than I am. My previous employment record is working at a bakery and a meat slicer and wrapper.
November 1st, 2009 at 10:33 pmP.D.,
Be proud of the work you’ve done. All work is noble. Everyone who works helps everyone.
November 1st, 2009 at 10:42 pmdixie, For the last couple of years, I’ve been a volunteer. You know, one of those dreaded ‘Community organizers’. That’s what really repulsed me about the McCain/Palin rallies. Why is it so wrong to serve your community? I think that is why the Repugs are in such trouble. They have no respect for anyone who serves selflessly. Big Business is their only love. Everyone else is disposible.
November 1st, 2009 at 10:55 pmPD, You and most people, are quietly extraordinary. Good for you, out there helping your community.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:06 pmP.D. – good for you for volunteering.
But, you’re right, if you’re not doing something for money then you’re automatically under suspicion as far as the right seems to be concerned. I mean, you MUST have a hidden agenda, right? Why else could you possibly be expending such an effort?
Even when Obama appears at an event hosted by G.H.W. Bush and says:
“In the end, service binds us to each other and to our community and to our country in a way that nothing else can,” he said.
tea-baggers show up, of course, to protest such an obviously socialist agenda.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:08 pmOut@104, What is really depressing is that the last couple of years I have seen a dramatic drop in volunteering. Whether it is the economy, or the fact that people are buying this whole ‘Volunteering is Bad’ theory. I don’t know. I just know that McCain/ Palin slammed what I did for years. The fact I didn’t get a paycheck for what I did was a bad thing? WTF? I thought these Righties were Christians. And Christians were supposed to care for the needy and sick. I guess that no longer applies to Repugs. Sick, no?
November 1st, 2009 at 11:15 pmP.D.
Volunteers make the world strong. My dad was a volunteer fireman. He volunteered for just about everything at the church and was listed on the local businesses as the emergency contact. It made my mom crazy with his willingness to help others.
Keep up the good work.
I have to sign off for now. Have a good evening.
dixie.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:18 pmGoodnight dixie.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:20 pmYeah PD, the wretched excess of the last few years has fostered a culture where some relate their self-worth to their net worth. Big house they don’t need, gourmet kitchen they never cook in, enormous truck to transport the perfect child to school. They don’t volunteer because they’re too busy, too important. I also suspect they look down on anyone who needs help. While I don’t wish the misfortunes of this economy on anyone, maybe some will emerge with a better sense of what’s important, and how very fragile anyone’s security is.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:24 pmThe republicans often use their business contacts and dont do community volunteering. Doing election work is a job to them and they get paid to do it. They are organized but an unpopular minority that has, like in business, no qualms about lying or cheating and dirty tricks to win. In the big business world corporate espionage is quite common and if thats what it takes to knock out your competition, they will do it.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:25 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means … says:
Hoffman’s undisclosed assets include stock in torture chambers and unused crest whitestrips.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:04 pm
We believe someone else posted a comment about teeth whitening before you. Why are you stealing from this person?
You must try to be original.
November 1st, 2009 at 11:32 pmWell a non-routable IP address is assigned by the router, like mine here, to the five devices hooked to it, the default non-routable IP is usually in the 192.168.1.xxx range. The router knows which device is which by a MAC number the internet adapter supplies. It uses the ARP protocol so netstat [start run type command, hit enter, type netstat -a, hit enter] doesnt see these communications. You would use ARP [start, run, type command, enter, type ARP -a] to see the ARP table.
But the router still must get a routable IP from your ISP
November 1st, 2009 at 11:54 pmYou must try to be original.
Like Limbaughs spawn Beck is original
November 1st, 2009 at 11:55 pmIm kinda bored, if you wanted to see what your router was doing you would need a packet sniffer such as ethereal or wireshark, commview, etc to see the router and computers [ARP protocol] talking to each other to see who is assigned what non-routable IP nummy.
192.168.1.254 Who has Mac 02d4e50cE558?
192.168.1.66 has 02d4e5oce558
Etc etc. Their is quite a bit of data flying around constantly.
See? Bored. =]
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:05 amI’m a volunteer tax payer……xisithrus….do you often times see flashes of light just off to the left and when you look there is nothing there? In the past few years I have seen a huge increase in hover-rounds and the indigents are just getting fatter and fatter. Huge carts of free food at Win-co and Walmart……..so huge they have to pull the carts with their hover-rounds. And if that cant be done the store has a small Honda truck to hall their bibulous bodies and tons of food out to there old broken down pieces of Honda shit talking on their phones all the way………………this want America is all about? If the Teliban came to my town they could take it over in minutes with out a fight. When the food ran out they would start eating each other….. a win is a win!
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:07 amdo you often times see flashes of light just off to the left and when you look there is nothing there?
What do you think it is?
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:12 amI saw ALF the other night Slappy, I woke up and there he was, beady eyes, brown fur, staring at me from beside the bed. I jabbed my finger at him I another jab DONT another jab THINK another jab SO and he evaporated.
Guess he was looking for a cat. I went back to sleep.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:21 amBibulous? Tis that you Dr Dbunker?
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:26 amIts probably “The Palin” high a atop her black Kight Pegasus dawned only in a light stole wielding a red hot rapier and Glock in .357 sig. Be afraid, be very afraid!
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:28 amI tried to find the ’sweet and light’ ITIW blog last night couldnt find it.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:28 amIts probably “The Palin” high a atop her black Kight Pegasus dawned only in a light stole wielding a red hot rapier and Glock in .357 sig. Be afraid, be very afraid!
Yupp, nothing was there…=)
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:30 amHuge carts of free food at Win-co and Walmart
Walmart meat is just weird, saline tenderizer injected crap and I wont shop there. Doan like it.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:35 amhttp://www.takimag.com/
I was just reading over here Slappy, you should be proud that I actually read opposing views. Taki Theodoracopulus seems like a decent, and very wealthy, guy who actually is fairly down to earth but travels around in the upper crust pie pans, has some interesting takes on things.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:38 amI just go to Winco/Walmart for observation and material…………oh and Cheezy Poofs.
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:46 amI just go to Winco/Walmart for observation and material…………oh and Cheezy Poofs.
What no diet coke?
November 2nd, 2009 at 12:58 amYes xisthrus…..while not the point of the exercise there is always a third entity needed to resolve predicaments sometimes of their own creation, there are a few such mediators in my family, one being my son who spends all his time exchanging rich people money between some and others
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:00 amand as they agee per a set of prearanged guidelines. Million come and millions go………it just business………….
Million come and millions go………it just business………
I think they refer to that as the greater fool theorum
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 amIts cheaper, quicker and it gets the job done so the caravan can move on……….
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:05 am“America rejects the false comfort of isolationism,” said George W. Bush in his 2006 State of the Union. And we did reject that false comfort. And now we can enjoy the fruits of interventionism. -Pat Buchanan
Pat is finally starting to see why Scowcroft didnt want to destabilize the arc of instability. Its a frackin disaster.
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:09 amhttp://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/forever_war/
Yes xisthrus…..while not the point of the exercise there is always a third entity needed to resolve predicaments sometimes of their own creation
Ordo Ab Chao Ordo Ad Chao
November 2nd, 2009 at 1:13 amNote: The OECD report shows that despite the Ronald Reagan tax rate reduction, the rate of increase in U.S. income inequality declined during the Reagan years [less free food Slappy!] During the mid-1990s [Clintin], the Gini coefficient (the measure of income inequality) actually fell [more less free food Slappy!]. Beginning in 2000v[Bush] with the New Economy (essentially financial fraud and offshoring of U.S. jobs), the Gini coefficient shot up sharply [Lots more free food Slappy!].
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:01 amOh, that post, abubb, was from Paul Craig Roberts.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:03 amI remember Katrina well. The Bush Administration was waiting for the private sector to solve the problem.
This was before the fall of the Republican Reich, back when wingers projected their own reality like gods, and life was an Ayn Rand novel.
Hating ACORN
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:11 amWow, really? The swine flu is causing people to drown in their attics while George Bush eats cake and plays guitar? Who knew! Spit.
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:35 amThe Bush Administration’s focus during Katrina was on enriching cronies via no-bid contracts, not saving lives.
The Republican focus in general is putting morons in important positions to try to make government look bad and relying on short memories to forget Republicans held government positions when it sucked the most.
If the Bush administration was still in power, we could expect to see a couple things.
First, we would be paying a much larger price for much less vaccine and noone would expect the pharmaceutical to actually live up to their end of the contract.
Secondly, we would actually see significant problems with adverse effects from the vaccine, because it would have been manufactured in China and noone would actually inspect it for safety.
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:53 amKrak-ho ventures,
I voted you up just to keep your stupidity on display a little longer.
Do you even know when the H1N1 influenza variant originated?
Moron.
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 amRight wingers are all about fearmongering. I’m sure Donald Rumsfeld is loving this “swine flu scare” because he’s a big huge investor in Tamaflu!
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:10 amKrak-ho ventures,
I’ll give you one more chance to display your stupidity.
Who was the president LAST WINTER, you moron?
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:10 amBob has become more and more right leaning in the last few years. His objectivity is questionable at best. I won’t even watch anymore. Not that I love Dave Gregory either. Rachel Maddow has the stones to actually moderate and call the right wing moron parade on it’s inaccuracies and lies.
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:10 amSlappy Beggerino. You ignorant pile of garbage. Just give it up no matter how much you beg there is no pity for you here
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:15 amKstreetMORON. You are so stupid it is just astonishing. I love to laugh at morons as stupid as you.
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:19 am