Doug Hoffman Praises Glenn Beck As His ‘Mentor’
Doug Hoffman Praises Glenn Beck As His ‘Mentor’
Conservative blogger Charles Johnson of the site Little Green Footballs reported yesterday that Doug Hoffman, the Conservative Party candidate in the NY-23 special election, signed a pledge to uphold Glenn Beck’s 9/12 Project principles in Congress. The signed pledge is available online, and Hoffman touts his endorsement from the 9/12 organization on his website. Like the lobbyist-planned tea parties, the 9/12 Project is a creation of Beck, used to go after Beck’s liberal enemies and to organize hateful anti-Obama rallies.
Although there is a groundswell of far right tea party and Beck-inspired candidates running for office in 2010, very few Republicans running for Congress or Governor have signed the 9/12 pledge. Noting that he signed a document pledging his “sacred honor” to uphold Beck’s list of values and principles, Johnson aptly deems Hoffman “The Glenn Beck candidate.”
Right-wing bloggers have been apoplectic at Johnson for daring to observe the fact that Hoffman has been bowing to an extremist like Beck. They have written that Johnson must “hate America” and is “infused with Derangement Syndrome.”
But the 9/12 pledge isn’t the only pandering Hoffman has done to secure Beck’s enthusiastic support. Today on his radio program, Beck continued to nudge Hoffman to be more conservative. After being prodded by Beck to say climate change is not caused by human activity, Hoffman announced, “Well, I think there’s a lot of debate on there. I don’t believe that it’s totally manmade.” Beck cohost Pat Gray praised Hoffman’s lurch to the right, noting “he’s getting stronger every second.” Beck chimed in, agreeing, “He’s getting stronger, there it is, every second.” Hoffman then groveled:
PAT: Every second. What about
HOFFMAN: I have good mentors here.
GLENN: Wait, wait. Wait, wait. Are they mentors that will show –
HOFFMAN: I’m talking about you, Glenn.
GLENN: Oh, okay. I was going to say all right, as long as they are standing out from the shadows. [...]
HOFFMAN: No. Yeah, well, I’m going to keep in touch with people like you so I don’t get infected with that disease.
Listen here:
The interview today was not the first time Hoffman has pleaded to Beck for his support. On the October 21 edition of his radio program, Beck quizzed Hoffman on his conservative credentials and even offered his own “cocktail” of immigration policy solutions, which Hoffman quickly accepted. During the program, Hoffman serenaded Beck with adoring rhetoric, telling him once that the Founding Fathers envisioned “people like you and me to stand up” and take control of government. He also told Beck that he is a member of his local 9/12 organization.
In the past few weeks, Beck has promoted Hoffman on multiple occasions, directing viewers to the Hoffman for Congress website and inviting Hoffman onto his Fox News television program to promote his candidacy. In a firm rejection of the national GOP’s efforts to recruit moderate candidates for the 2010 midterm elections, Hoffman is now encouraging other insurgent right-wing primary challengers to step up. Along with his corporate front group allies like FreedomWorks and Club for Growth, Beck promises to ensure a continued purging of moderates from the Republican Party.
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November 2nd, 2009 at 2:38 pmDoug Hoffman Praises Glenn Beck As His ‘Mentor’
– - This is WAY better than getting any Democrat elected in the NY-23rd.
From the local paper, The Watertown Daily Times:
Mr. Hoffman is running as an ideologue. If he carries out his pledges on earmarks, taxation, labor law reform and other inflexible positions, Northern New York will suffer.
This rural district depends on the federal government for an investment in Fort Drum and its soldiers, environmental protection of our international waterway and the Adirondack Park, and the livelihood of all our dairy farmers across the district, among other support. Our representative cannot be locked into rigid promises and policies that would jeopardize these critical sectors of our economy.
It is frightening that Mr. Hoffman is so beholden to right-wing ideologues who dismiss Northern New Yorkers as parochial when people here simply want to know how Mr. Hoffman will protect their interests in Washington.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:39 pmBig smooch on Glenn’s ass. Yuck.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:40 pmI hope the people in the 23rd District have the good sense not to vote this nut into office. We don’t need another Bachmann or Foxx.
The only reason why the Republicans are ahead in the gubernatorial races in NJ and VA is because the Democratic contenders are borderline-awful. Of course the RNC is spinning it as a “vote against this administration”, which is further reason why the voters of New York’s 23rd can’t elect Hoffman. The RNC deserves no bragging rights.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:41 pmGreat. Another looney toon to watch get up in the House and proclaim universal health insurance is more dangerous than terrorism. At this rate Charlie Crist is going to run in the Democratic primary next year.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:41 pmRight-wing bloggers have been apoplectic at Johnson for daring to observe the fact that Hoffman has been bowing to an extremist like Beck. They have written that Johnson must “hate America” and is “infused with Derangement Syndrome.”
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But…but…but…I thought the righties LIKED Beck! I thought all conservative candidates wanted to suck up to the lunatic fringe vote by worshipping the conservative talking heads!
So now Beck is considered toxic by the right? Who knew?
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:41 pmDoug Hoffman Praises Glenn Beck As His ‘Mentor’
– - And wingnuts call Obama the Manchurian candidate.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pmSo, Hoffman pledges to:
*Use divise politics whenever possible
*Conduct ad hominem attacks on political enemies while offering no solutions
*Call any and every program he doesn’t believe in “socialism”
*Deem the President a racist because…he’s not 100% white?
*Claim the President is supporting terrorism
*Hail the death of George Tiller
I’m sure I missed something here. Little help?
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pmI wonder if Hoffman does manage to get elected, if that will somehow embolden Sarah Palin as a King maker? If that happens, then the Repubs will continue to move in smaller and smaller circles until they go the way of the Whigs.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 pmMr. Hoffman,
You have some sticky goo dripping off your chin and some brown bits on your nose.
Please, have some decency.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 pm- – Josh Marshall hits the nail on the head:
Every non-hard-right congressional Republican will have this episode in mind going forward the next year — it will shape votes, positions on key issues. And what happened in this race will be the backdrop for every primary contest between a mainline and hard-right Republican this cycle — think particularly of the Crist/Rubio contest in Florida, which hard-right Republicans are already pointing to as the logical place to repeat the Scozzafava/Hoffman pattern.
This is the electoral equivalent of those brief moments earlier this year when prominent Republicans issued tepid criticisms of Rush Limbaugh only to be forced into craven apologies hours or days later. The hard-right of the GOP just got a much stronger lock on the institutional Republican party than it had before. And, let’s face it: the lock was pretty strong to start with.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 pmDoug Hoffman Praises Glenn Beck As His ‘Mentor’
This is a text-book example of the blind leading the blind.
Today on his radio program, Beck continued to nudge Hoffman to be more conservative.
Lee, I believe the word you are looking for in this case is either stupid, hateful, or divorced from reality…
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 pmThis should be exploited to stop this extreme neo-con from being voted. No one needs another 9/12 loon in politics.
Looking at you, Ms. Bachmann.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 pmIt’s been interesting to witness Charles Johnson’s evolution. A staunch right-winger who seems to recognize the threat that the current drift to the right poses to the Republican Party, his mild warnings have brought the weight of wingnut condemnation down upon him.
Ah well, lie down with dogs…
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:46 pmJohnson has been one of the few voices of reason in a sea of right-wing crazy hate.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:46 pmI kinda feel sorry for conservative who are moderate and function in the real world instead of the one in Glenn Beck’s head.
The astro-turf spin machine declared war on Charles Johnson last year and Little Green Footballs has been relentlessly attacked by the same trolls that plague this website. In fact the trolls have dedicated their latest stalker/hate site to their war on LGF.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:48 pmWhat disease does he not want to be infected with? Can we have a gigantic headline on this? “Hoffman refers to non-Beck-approved stances as ‘diseased.’”
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:48 pmIf these people vote for this guy. It will just prove to me that some American people are sheeple. What gets me aggravated is that these people can find out a lot about their candidates if thet just cared to look. A lot of Americans can’t be bothered to read a newspaper for crying out loud. That’s why we a segment of the population that is either misinformed or ignorant.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:48 pmSome people might see the way the right wing is circling around this guy as a sign of strength… I sort of see it as the turds circling around the drain just as you flush….
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:50 pm@ 1. Leftside Annie says: Ew. Pass the barf bag!! November 2nd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Dang, Annie, ya beat me and everyone else to it. I’ll admit, I was torn between ‘yuck’ and ‘eeeeyew’ for a minute or two. These two must have come right out of a 69er porn act from pre-Castro Havana. Ick.
I need something with a little more capacity than a barf bag, please.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:52 pmEnnuiDivine says
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
I’m sure I missed something here. Little help?
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You forgot, “cry on cue”. If he really wants to suck up to Beck, he’ll try to outdo Boehner.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:53 pm16 Reggie
Off topic
Do you know the nicks of any wingnut idiots also messing with D.U.?
TIA
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:53 pmPsycho phant
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:54 pmVirtual Pebble says:
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pmI need something with a little more capacity than a barf bag, please.
Here’s a bucket. Found it at a two-for-one sale.
Reggie says:
The astro-turf spin machine declared war on Charles Johnson last year and Little Green Footballs has been relentlessly attacked by the same trolls that plague this website. In fact the trolls have dedicated their latest stalker/hate site to their war on LGF.
Good. Those &/%&/#$ over at LGF deserve that, and worse.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pmBookend morons.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:56 pmUltimately, this election will have serious consequences on 2010.
Whether or not it leads to a second “Republican Revolution” will depend on how badly the Dems botch healthcare and if some unforseen global event shakes the economy again. Doesn’t matter that the GOP destroyed our credibility on the world stage, started an unneccesary and illegal war, and brought the world’s financial system to its knees, if the economy gets noticeably worse before the midterms, the teabaggers are lying in wait. They’ll mount primary challenges to the “moderates” and place the extreme rightists against Blue Dog Dems. And probably win.
It’s a hell of a longshot, but never discount voter dissatisfaction and a ridiculously well-funded base. The GOP might dissolve, but if the teabaggers get their own pary, they can wreak some serious havoc on the nation (again).
*Virtual end of legal abortion
*Repeal of hate crimes laws
*Flat tax
*End of the estate tax
*End of Medicare
*End of Medicaid
*End of public education
*End of public saftey
***CORPORATE POLICE STATE***
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:57 pm@ 8. EnnuiDivine says: So, Hoffman pledges to:
*Use divise politics whenever possible
*Conduct ad hominem attacks on political enemies while offering no solutions
*Call any and every program he doesn’t believe in “socialism”
*Deem the President a racist because…he’s not 100% white?
*Claim the President is supporting terrorism
*Hail the death of George Tiller
I’m sure I missed something here. Little help? November 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Run around like a striped-arsed ape in the monkey house flinging shit at the onlookers?
Do the Chicken Little by standing in the well of the House screaming that the sky is falling and it’s all the commie’s fault?
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:57 pmThe New Republican Party only wants true believers. Like the SS.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:57 pmrepublicanSScareme says:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:00 pmWhich is why this guy clicks his heels and says “jawohl” everytime Becky opens his foul mouth.
It was Johnson defense of evolution and his attacks on Intelligent design that is one of the far right’s first grievence against Charles Johnson. Then he started to support Climate Change as sound science and all hell broke loose.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:01 pmCurrently he is way ahead of the progressive blogs in reporting the Republican Party’s ties to Ron Paul, the John Birch Society, racists, Dominionists, radical extremists groups and corporate lobbyists.
These are races in long held Republican territory – the very idea that it’s contested is testament to the neo-cons loss of strength.
It won’t matter if the Dems lose every single race.. it shouldn’t have even been a question. Of course FOX will paint it as being significant.. being the purveyors of spin that they are… but it simply is not the case. By the very fact that there is a question of if the Repugs will win.. it indicates they have lost.
I mean seriously.. up state New York.. 160 years of Republican rule from what I’ve heard – and Virginia… well come on! It’s Virginia! That’s a lost cause… Now New Jersey on the other hand – it’s a close race.. Liberals have a tendency of not showing up in as strong of numbers at the polls though, I hope that isn’t going to be the case this time.
If we pull off even 1 race.. it’s a message to the Republicans.. no, you can’t.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:03 pmI skimmed the article and missed it. The only question I have is whose lips were on whose ….
Cheers,
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 pmThis does bring to mind the relative “wisdom” of the two parties nowadays.
The GOP party line is that, to succeed, they’re going to have to run more to the right.
The DLC party line is that, to succeed, they’re going to have to run more to the right.
<*sigh*>
Cheers,
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:07 pmP.D. says:
If these people vote for this guy. It will just prove to me that some American people are sheeple. What gets me aggravated is that these people can find out a lot about their candidates if thet just cared to look. A lot of Americans can’t be bothered to read a newspaper for crying out loud. That’s why we a segment of the population that is either misinformed or ignorant.
Amen.
I retired back at the end of May after 33 years in the classroom, and I saw this more and more as the years passed. Many children are being reared to no longer be interested in finding out anything on their own. They want to be entertained. They show up in classrooms across America wanting everything to be fun and entertaining and wanting to be told everything. Research? Research? What is that? is the prevailing attitude coupled with cheating as a way of getting ahead.
IMHO, this is why Fuchs Noose is so successful. People are too lazy to do a little research to find out about the politicians they vote for. They want the easiest answers to their questions, and above all, they want to be entertained.
They have been seduced by the entertainment and outrageous ideas pushed by the rw politiciains and entertainers.
So what if truth takes a backseat to entertainment, it’s fun and involves less work.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:07 pmlux@32, I agree. The way the Righties hijacked that race was incredible. Here was a woman, who was PICKED by her own Superiors to run, then out of nowhere you have people like Palin (A quitter AND jobless) and this guy Hoffman, who isn’t even from the district, telling her she isn’t Republican enough. In fact they called a (Gasp!) ‘Liberal’. I don’t know about you, but if a bunch of Repug Party Right-wingers descended and bullied thier way in my area, a lot of people would be alarmed if not disgusted. Let’s see if they pull it off. But it may be a double edged sword. Because that behavior of the Righties was way over the top.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:11 pmAw c’mon libruls…you all know you hate him because he’s ssoooooooooooo beautiful! Just ask Bill O’Lielly, he’ll tell ya.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:12 pmSo the big loser is Newt. When the drop out Republican endorsed by Newt, endorses the Democrat, Newt has got to figure he just lost a few points toward his own nomination. Was the Republican endorsement of the Democrat a manuever by the White House to take Newt out of GOP contension? It also boosts Palin who would be the easiest for Obamaa to take.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:14 pmlux,
I live in VA, and the thing the pundits won’t tell you is that in Virginia (since 1977), we tend to elect a governor opposite of the party in power in the White House.
1976 – Carter (D); Dalton (R)
1980 – Reagan (R); 1981 – Robb (D)
1984 – Reagan; 1985 – Baliles (D)
1988 – Bush (R); 1989 – Wilder (D)
1992 – Clinton (D); 1993 – Allen (R)
1996 – Clinton; 1997 – Gilmore (R)
2000 – Bush (R); 2001 – Warner (D)
2004 – Bush; 2005 – Kaine (D)
2008 – Obama (D); 2009 – McDonnell(?) (R)
If McDonnell gets elected, it’s not so much news as it is a continuation of a trend. But that won’t play into the Faux News claim of a Rethuglican revolution.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:15 pmmaj@35, You Betcha! It all started, I believe, when MSM started focusing on ‘Infotainment’ Remember in Bush’s reign when MSM was all over Paris, Britney and Lindsay? I don’t know about you, but isn’t that the ‘National Inquirers’ job and ‘Entertainment Tonight’?
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:15 pmfirst of all, how seriously does an adult with a site named “little green footballs” expect to be taken? sounds like a turd a chihuahua would take after eating chile peppers.
second, boo-hoo glenda becky is a moron.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:21 pmWatertown is in deep doo-doo with this clown.
Sometimes, things have to get worse before they get better.
Someone has been watching waaaaaaaaay too much CroxNews.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:21 pmThe biggest mystery of tomorrow will be NJ. Things have been reeeeeeal ugly down here.
The consensus is that you’re choosing between two piles of shit and a vote for Daggett will inevitably swing the election towards one of them.
I, like many in the state, will be voting for Corzine. Not because I think he’ll be a great governor (he’s been a trainwreck thus far), but because, for as bad as he is, Christie is tenfold worse. And if you ask a Christie supporter, you get the same thing in reverse. You’re not likely to find a less enthusiastic bunch voting tomorrow, and it’s unfortunate that low turnout will hurt Corzine. Those really dedicated to throwing him out of office will show up and there aren’t enough hardcore supporters to swamp the polls to make up for the people who will just stay home. It’ll be down to the wire.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:22 pmSorry for off-topic, but:
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November 2nd, 2009 at 3:23 pmI wonder, is this the same Doug Hoffman I remember from this thread?
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/30/colbert-signs-petition/
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:23 pmIf there is anyone here with any influence, the Democrats need to capitalize on this! Right now we need a meme being spread by Democratic politicians and in the media about the Glenn Beck wing of the Republican Party, the Rush Limbaugh wing of the Republican Party, and the Sarah Palin wing of the Republican Party. Seriously! The Republicans need to be identified by their extremists in the minds of the public. This is gold for the Democrats in 2010, lets stir discord within the Republican Party! Make the politicians caught in the 2010 wave decide whether they are for or against the talk show extremists and become public about it! How extreme will the Republican Party be? Make them go all the way and cause voters to wonder if the Republican Party is a legitimate alternative to who we have now.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:24 pmHoffman thinks it’s a honor to have the godfather to kiss him on the cheek.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:24 pmEh? The spawns daddy is irrelevant?
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:25 pmPerhaps we need freedom from the Press.
They have puffed Palin beyond all belief.
They have done the same for a half-crazed Glenn Beck.
If they think this is flexing their power, they will be rather sorry when it comes back to bite them if these clowns attain political office or power.
What a big, big mistake they are making to focus on them instead of what even the Wall Street Journal today admits are serious and direction changing accomplishments by the Democrats,
But then that wouldn’t be INFOTAINMENT.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:25 pmConservative blogger Charles Johnson of the site Little Green Footballs reported yesterday that Doug Hoffman, the Conservative Party candidate in the NY-23 special election, signed a pledge to uphold Glenn Beck’s 9/12 Project principles in Congress.
Looks like Congress is gonna’ need to order a shitload of crying towels if Johnson happens to win ……..
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:25 pmThis ‘Bro-mance’ stuff seems to be spreading
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:28 pm40. P.D.
Actually.. to be fair – there just isn’t enough actual news to fill a 24 hour cycle. We want something to click all day long.. and the gaps are filled with junk like Palin and Beck and Lindsay and Paris..
I mean… what really happened today? Not enough. But still the news organizations have to dig up something.. often if there’s no news – an opinion piece fills that gap, other times entertainment pieces make up the void.
As always.. I’m just against being overly cynical.. the internet is still trying to adjust to this real time world we live in. In the old days you had 6 o’clock news… and some might even wager that was better. No news is good news they say.. but I’d prefer we endure the ugly side of minute by minute updates – the truth is worth it. Media has a lot of adjusting to do still.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:30 pmjohnny dol1ar:
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:30 pmIt’s been a long time since I have done any research on trolls, they bore me to death. I find it much more interesting studying the people who are exploiting these mindless twits and getting them to spam their astroturf talking points.
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Hoffman is the crypt keeper and beck is the body rotting away!!!!
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:33 pmDuring the program, Hoffman serenaded Beck with adoring rhetoric, telling him once that the founding fathers envisioned “people like you and me to stand up” and take control of government.
The Founding Fathers were for mental patients being in charge and holding the fates of citizens in their hands ?
Who knew……………..?????
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:34 pmso, cancervative has fallen yet again…last year they were letting tub o lard lintballs “annoint” the presidential candidate, this year is boo-hoo becky
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:34 pmNow these Right-wingers are sharpening their daggers for Charlie Crist. The have taken a little burb from NY and now they are conscentrating on the big leagues. I can’t belive how Sarah Palin, a quitter and a awful candidate, has been elevated to this. Damn. People are truly stupid.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:34 pmhere’s a *hint* manbeefeater,
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:35 pmyou’re a moron and no one clicks on your crappy link.
Hmmm. Seems to be a relatively troll free day so far..
Ooops, just jinxed it. Sorry everybody…
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:36 pmBeck’s 12 values are not in sync with his 9 principles.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:39 pmcaption…
Deer in Headlights and Headlights in Tears.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:39 pmRUCerious says:
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Hmmm. Seems to be a relatively troll free day so far..
Ooops, just jinxed it. Sorry everybody…
No big deal, I think everyone here has accidentally summoned trolls before. I know I have.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 pmThey want to uphold 912 principles without a clear majority of the salus populi being for such a thing?
And arent some of these folks the dislikers of the 911 victims relatives?
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 pmMaybe it’s just me, but this guy looks a lot like this guy.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 pm“unelected” Republicans have “rushed to echo” right-wing pundit bleeo bleep recent smears against widows of victims killed in the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, but no top elected Republican has. Former White House adviser Mary Matalin, CNN Headline News host Glenn Beck and Republican strategists Karen Hanretty and Jack Burkman
Shorter Beck: Remember 911 and hate the 911 widows!!
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:49 pmI personally would be alot warmer to the idea of a Republican party if they shed the teabaggers and reactionaries. Let them form their own party. The GOP was traditionally a moderate, pro-business party that didn’t scream about conspiracy theories and accuse its political rivals of treason.
If the GOP was comprised of Rockafeller Republicans and the batshit insane Conservative Teabag party had their own little niche, some real governing could occur.
We need multiparty Democracy Now!
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:49 pmI hope this loon gets his ass handed to him by Owens! If the peoploe of Upstate NY don’t reject this outsider and his band of crazies, they’ll have only themselves to blame. The fact that this clown doesn’t have a clue about the locals issues should be enough. I just want to see the look on Beck’s face when his rightwing loonie candidate gets his ass crushed!
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:50 pmLimbaugh
Beck
Palin
Fake News
The Republican party is already finished.
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:51 pmDoug Hoffman aims high,
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:53 pmDrinks from Beck’s golden chalice,
Mentholated tears
Shorterer Beck: Remember 912 screw the 911 widows!
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:54 pmNote to Up State New York: If you want to see the mess a hard line republican can leave behind just look at america and then zoom in on California..
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:54 pmDoug Hoffman, the Conservative Party candidate in the NY-23 special election
So , one could basically say/claim that Doug Hoffman is indeed a very “special” candidate ……
November 2nd, 2009 at 3:57 pm54 Beefjerker
Are they all the same pimps as the Koldys Street Ho’s?
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:15 pmDoug Hoffman joins the growing Pantheon of the ignorant, right wing nutballs that pander to the Teaparty retards. I think there are enough of these crackpots getting in the house and senate to have their own calendar for the adoring fanatics.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:17 pmNext thing you know the radical right will be touting Hoffman for 2012, maybe with Palin. What a trainwreck.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 pmI just read a quote from a Hoffman advisor, saying Scozzafava “betrayed the GOP”.
That’s right. The campaign for the guy who abandoned the Republican Party and prevented it from winning a district it had held since the 1870s is saying Scozzafava betrayed the GOP.
Classic.
Also, there’s talk that Scozzafava will cross the aisle and either caucus with the Assembly Dems or join them outright. Maybe even contest the nomination next year as a Dem.
I say, more power to her. Even if Owens wins, the two candidates are virtually interchangeable.
http://watertowndailytimes.com/article/20091101/NEWS09/911019992
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 pmOk let us recap the NY 23 race. Obama picks the Republican congressman to be Secretary of the Army. The replacement Republican picked by the local GOP establishment turns out to be too “liberal” and gets a challenge by a “conservative. The “liberal” republican drops out and endorses the Democrat, and makes a lot of GOP leaders look like fools, especially Newt. The point of all this is Obama starts a chain of events that end up forcing a divide in the GOP. It is so nice to see a Democrat who is willing to play hard against the Republicans for a change.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:32 pmWhen extremists seize control of any group they reserve their greatest contempt for those in their own movement who display any sign of nonconformity. The “conservative” movement has reached that stage. Unless they find a Hitler or a Mao, to use examples that the trolls are so fond of using, they stand to keep splitting over trivialities and paranoid accusations of disloyalty.
Witness the reaction to Scozzafava and even Charles Johnson. Any hint of going off message is grounds for instant expulsion. Heck, Newt effing Gingrich is taking heat for being too “liberal”!
On a related topic, did everyone catch Lush Rimjob’s disgusting remarks about Scozzafava?
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911020022
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:32 pmWiz, few people see it. Sure glad he’s on our side.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 pmSoooo, Hoffman praises an insane scum bag POS as his mentor, well, that certainly says alot.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:37 pmThey have found such a figure. Insean Vannity recently voiced her interest in running for office.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:47 pmTo touch on Wiz’s and Fred’s remarks, we have become so used to the previous regime bellowing their plots and plans, rather than keeping strategy under the radar, that it’s hard to say how much is by design and how much is fortuitous.
It’s beginning to look like letting the teabaggers rage unchecked was a tactical victory. Did the Dems lead them on, knowing they would go nuts, or were they unprepared? Is the recent increase in Pakistan’s activity against terrorists due to secret negotiations? Then there was Bill Clinton’s surprise trip to N. Korea.
In light of those events I’m starting to think that President Obama has some good people in place and is probably doing more behind the scenes than we may realize. Especially when one considers the mess he was handed, I really don’t see why so many are so impatient. I have a feeling that it’s unwise to Judge his actions before an actual bill is signed or vetoed.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:48 pmJeez, is there no ‘anti-stoooopid’ serum out there???
Hoffman’s district in UPSTATE New York must be really rural ’cause I didn’t think we had such ignorant people in this State . .
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:49 pmLOON!!!
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:03 pmOf course genius only looks like genius in retrospect, and Obama had a lot of help making the Republicans look stupid, from weak GOP leadership, the teabaggers, and the radical right broadcasters. Obama is like a chess player able to see 20 moves into the future. The radical right will see NY23 as a victory, but it seems rotten to me.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:04 pmI think so too, Wiz. It’s also going to take a while to get used to the Reichwhiners gleefully purging those who could actually turn the movement away from the fringe. At the rate they’re going, Obama may be remembered as the last President to run against a viable Republican party.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:20 pmOops! I should have added that President Obama and the Dems still need to be cautious. As long as the opposition is making crap up to blame on them? They’ll be fine. However, they still can’t afford to hand the opposition the opportunity of a real disaster. The momentum could still turn back to the “dark side”.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:23 pm@ 24. USNclerk says: “Virtual Pebble says: I need something with a little more capacity than a barf bag, please.” Here’s a bucket. Found it at a two-for-one sale. November 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 pm
thanks. good thing I don’t have a basement, I’d need a handy-billy to bail the puke out of that…
ah, the bucket could also be used to splash Glenda and Duggie with cold water. don’t know if there’s any other way to break the vacuum between them.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:25 pmI must be missing something here. Isn’t tomorrow when the elections are held?
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:33 pmDr. Hussein Matt says:
pete says:
The “conservative” movement has reached that stage. Unless they find a Hitler or a Mao,
They have found such a figure. Insean Vannity recently voiced her interest in running for office.
Well, no. No matter what their ideology both Adolf and Mao knew how to get things done and they were anything but quitters. Can you imagine Sarah on the Long March?
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:34 pm@ 90. Hoodathunk says: I must be missing something here. Isn’t tomorrow when the elections are held? November 2nd, 2009 at 5:33 pm
election? sheeyit, from some of the comments you’d think it’s the end of the world or the rapture, depending on where you’re standing. just noting that we have both negative and positive projections and not a damn thing has happened yet. just the godawful sucking sound that’s drawing Glenda and Duggie together, like a moth to a black hole, or a (no, I don’t think I’ll go there….)
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:39 pmHoffman will have angered some of the Republican party regular organization. This will translate to votes for the Dem but maybe not enough to win. Nevertheless, if Hoffman is elected he will become a pariah in his own district if he votes the way he has stated he will. In two years, Hoffman will probably be gone.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:41 pmCan you imagine Sarah on the Long March?
Is that the one from Niemann-Marcus to Macys? Or from Tiffanys to Sachs? I can never keep them straight.
November 2nd, 2009 at 5:44 pmWe already knew Hoffman is a hateful jerk, due to his history, but this just clinches it. Big mistake, Hoffman! Calling a mentally unstable drama queen your “mentor” doesn’t exactly make you look too intelligent– or well-mentored, for that matter.
November 2nd, 2009 at 6:13 pmI could be wrong but I think that “Insean Vannity” is a twist on Sean Hannity. But I don’t think he’s much of a threat either. His head explodes over the slightest hint of a challenge. He would stroke out if he ever had to give a press conference or engage in a moderated debate.
November 2nd, 2009 at 6:14 pm@ 94. Hoodathunk says: “Can you imagine Sarah on the Long March?” Is that the one from Niemann-Marcus to Macys? Or from Tiffanys to Sachs? I can never keep them straight. November 2nd, 2009 at 5:44 pm
That’s post-advance. Pre-advance it was Dollar General to K-Mart. But that RNC credit card did give ‘er a taste for the high life, didn’t it?
November 2nd, 2009 at 7:28 pmMy ex wife is from that district and I understand why they are so stupid. She and her family were dumb a s s republicans when I met them. I sure they still are too. I wouldn’t vote for that idiot based on his weird looks alone. Forgive me for judging someone based on look, but his dude is a very weird looking individual. He walks like a robot or like their is something serious mentally wrong with him.
November 2nd, 2009 at 8:02 pmIn a stunning turn of events, I find that I rather enjoy reading the comments at Johnson’s blog. The people there, for the most part, are very smart, know the issues and are not reflexively against anything and everything Obama. They realize that elections do indeed have consequences and roundly reject the whole overthrow the government teabagger movement.
I’ve tried to cwtch their open registration so I can comment there for I have asked myself dozens of times – wanting to ask them: why do and how can you still call yourselves Republicans when they are seemingy trying to institute theocratic rule, harken us back to the dark ages in terms of anything relating to science, want women as chattel, haven’t been fiscally conservative in a decade (walk the walk GOP, don’t just talk the talk!), want no government other than in your bedroom and bible, don’t take responsibility for the fiscal mess they fully endorsed and participated in, while espousing otherwise, talk about family values with the likes of Sanford, Ensign, Vitter, et al, and more.
I know some lizards are reading this, and since I can’t ask you myself at your place, I’ll ask here: Why are many of you still Republicans?
I read your comments often. I hope you’ll answer either here or at LGF.
Excuse typos…I’m on my iPhone.
November 2nd, 2009 at 9:34 pmWhat adult with the brainpower to feed themselves would be stupid enough to call a moron like Beck their mentor?
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:18 amI don’t see why honest Republicans need to have their whole party hi-jacked by folks who wouldn’t have been with us five years ago. We need, and always will to win elections in this country, more than just my rifle and my Bible. It’s just not Frontier days, when a fella could live his own way. Now we’ve got huge Hospitals, School-systems, highways…..Isn’t it time to stop blustering at each other, and see just how real complex these problems are nowadays. We need to do hard work with each other, even if we don’t always agree.
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:46 amI think if you read your post a few times, firefox0077,
you may find your answer.
Honesty was considered a liability,
as far as the Bush administration was concerned.
dick Cheney “couldn’t recall” 77 times at one sitting, only yesterday.
Greed is the creed of the republican party.
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:10 amIn all things, even government, you get what you pay for.
Your party has put all their money
into a campaign of deception and obstruction of progress.
And that’s all the repubs have to offer.
Hoffman’s mentor is the spawn of Rush Limbaugh.
How could any republican resist that?
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:16 amAll conservatives dream of having a college drop out for a mentor. America in peril.
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:50 am