Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN) appeared today on MSNBC’s Morning Joe to discuss the ideological direction of his party. Pawlenty, a late backer of Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman, has increasingly staked out a far right position within the GOP. He recently reversed his position on clean energy legislation, slamming the concept of cap-and-trade in June after calling for a regional cap-and-trade program in 2007. In September, he also flirted with the idea of embracing the fringe “tenther” movement to attempt to nullify health reform in his state.
The right-wing faction of the GOP, emboldened by its success in forcing out moderate Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava (R-NY) in the NY-23 special election, has called for more purging of politicians who do not follow an orthodox conservative voting line. After talking about the developments in NY-23, the Morning Joe hosts asked Pawlenty repeatedly if he wants Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) — also a moderate — in the Republican Party. Pawlenty refused to answer the question, and again refused to say that he is even “glad” Snowe is Republican:
SCARBOROUGH: Are you glad that Olympia Snowe is a Republican?
PAWLENTY: Well, the people of Maine–
SCARBOROUGH: I’m asking you because we’re talking about this litmus test […] Are you glad Olympia Snowe is in your party?
PAWLENTY: Well, I think Olympia Snowe is somebody who is more liberal than most Republicans would like [...]
BRZEZINSKI: Was that a ‘yes,’ Governor?
PAWLENTY: Well, you know look it the people of Maine have an open process, they selected her.
Pawlenty’s adoption of a dogmatic conservative approach to being Republican was compounded by his explanation of the “minimum standards” for being Republican in his eyes:
TODD: Governor, what is the minimum standard for being a Republican? Define minimum standard for being a moderate Republican.
PAWLENTY: Well, you can’t be for card check, you can’t get endorsed by ACORN, you can’t support the stimulus bill, you can’t be for bank bailouts, that would be a starting point, Chuck. But if you’re for all those things, you’re probably not a Republican.
Watch it:
Of course, like Pawlenty’s sudden flip flop on climate change, his own right-wing standards for being Republican might force him to purge himself. Although he says “you can’t be for bank bailouts,” Pawlenty supported the $700 billion Bush administration bank bailouts of 2008. While he has now joined the ACORN-bashing bandwagon, in 2007, Pawlenty signed an anti-predatory mortgage law crafted in part by representatives from ACORN. And while Pawlenty is eager to bash the stimulus, his top economic adviser has toured his state, touting its success and the “tangible results from this funding.”
Pawlenty Refuses To Say Whether He’s ‘Glad’ Olympia Snowe Is In The Republican Party
– - C’mon, Timmah! If ya can’t stand up to Mika freakin-BRZEZINSKI how ya gonna stand up to them terrorists?
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 amKeep courting those 20%er whack-a-doodles pawlewnty by throwing moderates such as yourself under the wheels of the bus. then report back to us on how well your presidential bid goes.
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:56 amForget it, Pawlenty. You can never be as “conservative” (read: off-the-wall fkin insane) as Palin/King/Santorum and others who have hinted at runs in 2012. You’re just embarassing yourself.
Why are the moderates in the GOP just taking the abuse? This should not be a party of arch conservatives; let them splinter off and form a Lord of the Flies party.
The reactionary right is out for blood. Let them feed on each other.
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:58 amPawlenty is reinventing himself to become a viable candidate for President in the ‘new’ Republican Party. And the new Republican Party wants nothing to do with moderate or mildly conservative Republicans (which Pawlenty was) anymore.
So, rather than running as his own man and trying to bring the Republicans back toward the middle, he caves.
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:58 am“You can’t get endorsed by ACORN”…
Damn, do Republics like them some boogeymen or what?
Still, it’s kind of ironic that their current boogeyman is ACORN, and the favorite game of the trolls is “SQUIRREL!”
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:58 amheh. I love it. They are afraid of their extemists who they gave permission to run things….
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:59 amRalph, I have a feeling that thier escapade with Acorn is going to come back and bite them in the a$$. There are plenty of republican orgs that are much more guilty than Acorn ever was.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:00 pmTim Pawlenty, hypocrit and sockpuppet. That’s it! He’s trying to make it;
Palin/Pawlenty 2012 – Pullin’ the Plug on America*
*No politician’s brains were injured in the course of this advertising campaign; ya can’t injure what they don’t have.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:03 pmHow ironic, I refuse to say that I’m ‘glad’ Tim Pawlenty is the governor of my State.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:04 pm“you can’t get endorsed by ACORN”
every third grader knows you’re not going to get endorsed by ACORN if you’re a repukeliscum for one simple reason- there’s only one thing repukeliscums hate more than uppity people of color and that’s uppity people of color who vote.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:04 pmAt least they are not afraid to admit what we Progressives knew all along….GOPigs are a small tent party where dissent and moderates are not welcome.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 pmI think the far right needs to just admit the thing we’ve all been suspecting for some time now. That they’re just a bunch of god-fearing, gun-loving, racist fascists.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 pmOh man, serious hint for ACORN here. Start endorsing Republican candidates. Left and right. That would be hilarious.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:06 pmPeeing into the wind, crapping in their own nest, circular firing squad…how many ways can you describe the wingnuts in the bottom 20%?
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:06 pm@3. EnnuiDivine says: Forget it, Pawlenty. You can never be as “conservative” (read: off-the-wall fkin insane) as Palin/King/Santorum and others who have hinted at runs in 2012. You’re just embarassing yourself. Why are the moderates in the GOP just taking the abuse? This should not be a party of arch conservatives; let them splinter off and form a Lord of the Flies party. The reactionary right is out for blood. Let them feed on each other. November 3rd, 2009 at 11:58 am
Sheeeyit, EnnuiD, you sayin’ there won’t be a Palin/Pawlenty ticket, that maybe Timmie can’t pull off a conservative enough act for Rupert “Murder” Murdoch and Roger Ailes to consider buying him a Fux Noise Conspiracy canididate. And I had such high hopes for comedy in 2012. I’m disappointed, I tell ya, disappointed…
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:08 pmSo republicans are still frothing at the mouth over ACORN but don’t seem to mind the murder, rape, fraud committed by Halliburton, KBR and Xi (BlackwaterUSA)at the expense of our soldiers and the American taxpayer…how uniquely republican.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:08 pmAnother slimey little repiggie…
You can’t trust any of them.
I just voted in our local elections here if Florida, and no repiggie got my vote.
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@ 15, Sorry, EnnuiD, that’s supposed to be “… buying him as a Fux Noise …”
As for the ACORN and bank bailout stuff, that’s just run-of-the-mill hypocrisy. Timmie sees a bandwagon and runs after it; never mind what he said about that circus bandwagon yesterday, he’s ready to get some serious conservative elephant dung in his sneakers today.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:12 pmPolenta is just setting himself up for the carnage that will be the republic party’s 2011 primary season — as he, Mittens, Failin’ and Newtie turn on each other to out-wingnut each other, thereby sealing the doom of the extremist wing of the republic party (leaving who — Joe Lieberman???)…
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:14 pm15. Virtual Pebble,
Yeah. It’s a tragic loss. We’ll have to settle for the Bachmann/King ticket. They can appoint Rick Santorum as the new Department of Morality secretary.
You know, a kind of American mutaween
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:15 pmTypical Regressive mindthink. Witness the Nation shift toward the left-of-center and come to the conclusion that the way to regain power is to hurdle your party to the extreme right? Get voted out of power by an overwhelming majority for doing nothing to stop the downfall of our economy, our ethics and our world standing. How do you respond to the Nation? By furthering your “do nothing” attitude toward every problem facing America, problems caused by Republican ineptitude. These guys in the Republican Party are a bunch of real geniuses, huh?
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 pmWhat a dirt bag … bank bailouts were the idea & actions of the Republican administration of GW Bush.
Why doesn’t the media hold these losers accountable when they make up this kind of stuff ??
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 pmwoo woo, looky. Kenneth the Troll is back. Wanna froth at the mouth about the Welfare Queens, Kennie? eh?
or have you forgotten that the Newtster and that nasty Slick Willy fixed that program. sorry, I forgot that your reading of pseudo-conservative campaign literature hasn’t progressed past about 1955.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 pmKenneth says:
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Every 3rd Grader knows that they can get free stuff from the gummint if their parent or relatives vote for Liberal Democrats. That is the way they have been educated for 40 years.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Least they’re educated ; what happened to you and your brainless brood , tool ?
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 pmreally kenny?
i don’t recall any of the wall street robber barons voting for liberal democrats. in fact, they voted for the moron known as the 43rd president of the united states who handed them 700 billion dollors with no oversight.
or perhaps you’re talking about the CEO’s of blackwater an halliburton, who were given no bid “cost plus” contracts by idiot boy for his war of choice in the mideast. did they vote liberal democrat kenny?
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:17 pmKennie can be found at comment #18 for those who wish to give him an appropriate welcome.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:17 pmPawlenty is the gray man of politics. He is the kind of person that makes no impression at all, 30 seconds after you hear him you can’t remember if he even said anything, he has an excellent chance of being the next Republican loser.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pmCan’t wait to see Timmy and Mittens both running in 2012 as born again conservative while running as far as possible from their moderate records as governors. At least Mittens does have a track record as a robber barron.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pmMCMetal says:
“Least they’re educated ; what happened to you and your brainless brood , tool ?”
let me field that one: kenny and his brood prove why it’s a back idea to impregnate your own daughter.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pmTODD: Governor, what is the minimum standard for being a Republican? Define minimum standard for being a moderate Republican.
PAWLENTY: It’s the same as the maximum standard for being a Republican ; be a brainless , lying , backwards-ass moron ….
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm@ 12. USNclerk says: I think the far right needs to just admit the thing we’ve all been suspecting for some time now. That they’re just a bunch of god-fearing, gun-loving, racist fascists. November 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
They admit nothing, and prefer to be called fascist racists, not the other way round, please.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:20 pmKenneth says:
Oh, it’s little Billy from the Family Circus. Keep trying, and I’m sure someday you’ll learn to spell “government” correctly, you adorable scamp.
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Kenneth sounds like every other republican troll online, same ignorant right wing rhetoric, wash-rinse-repeat-puke!
Unfortunately idiots like Kenneth don’t realize that because of Liberals his life is good. Whether it’s the clean water he drinks, the clean air he breaths, the safe roads he drives on, his safe workplace, his 40 hour work week, his parents social security and medicare, etc, etc, etc…….IDIOT!
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:24 pmVirtual Pebble says:
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pmThey admit nothing, and prefer to be called fascist racists, not the other way round, please.
Well tough, I call it how I see it. :)
Kennythebennetaker—How many of the 50% of American children who are predicted to be on welfare and food stamps are children of conservatives? liberals? I don’t expect an answer because you don’t have one, but I can tell you that the data show that the poorest people in America live in red states and vote the republican ticket, so one could conclude that voting for republicans has resulted in their impoverished condition. Therefore, it wouldn’t be a stretch of the imagination to theorize that these are the states that get the most freebies and probably have a large percentage of the population that does not work.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pmwhat an utter shuddering running for president next year not gonna offend rushlimpballs prick this one is.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:27 pmkenny promotes the welfare queen myth while ignoring the halliburton/bank bailout truth.
irony.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:27 pmKenneth says:
Republicans in Washington just gum it up.
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Fixed your typo Kenny.
Ah yes we should just privatize everything, this is the republican answer to everything, privatize and deregulate…
Privatize the police force and fire departments, so if you can’t afford to pay for their services you get robbed at gun point and take it like a man, your house burns down, deal with it….
Keep em coming Kenny, each comment you make just proves what an ignorant simpleton you are…
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 pmShorter Paw: Olympia is too compassionate. We only care about the unborn.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 pmYou are an idiot. We just tried that and it failed, miserably.
That’s why you and what you think really don’t matter.
Where’s that era of prosperity that you promised us in exchange for tax cuts for the rich and deregulation?
When you provide that, we will start caring what you think.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:29 pmPaw-lenty of hypocrite exists in this one.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:29 pmLet’s see… I the last few days not only did the Repug establishment ditch Dede (Whatever her last name is), now they are targeting Snowe? It seems as if the Repug tent is getting smaller and smaller. Pretty soon, it will be just old white dudes. That’s exactly the way the Repugs want it. Fine with me….
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:29 pmShorterer Paw: After they are born – - useless eaters.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:29 pmFred says:
“kenny promotes the welfare queen myth while ignoring the halliburton/bank bailout truth.”
welfare queen? like joe the plumber, the darling of the 2008 repukelican national convention?
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 pmKenneth says: People in Washington just gum it up. Let the robber barons reign
Flipped Your Tortilla Kenneth
Your welcome.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 pmif you threw pawlenty into a pond he’d float on the surface
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 pmkenny@34 ask your meemaw and peepaw if they like their medicare.
then encourage every member of the repukeliscum party to run on this ticket, “we’re gonna get rid of medicare once and for all” and report back to us with the outcome.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:32 pmKenneth says:
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And you think the gummint can handle a healthcare program?
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Not if any Republicans are involved , GOP leg humper …..
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pmkenny,
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pmwhy do you want to pull the plug on meemaw by taking away her medicare?
Kenneth says:
“And you think the gummint can handle a healthcare program? What a joke!”
First off kenny, I’m glad to see you’re so ecstatic over the flailing lower class in your community, your a “true American”. Secondly I believe that the “gumint” already successfully runs healthcare for our veterans, the elderly and “gumint” employees. Opening up medicare to the Nation would be fairly easy and surely very successful. Unfortunately legislation needs to move in baby steps but don’t you worry kenny, you WILL see universal healthcare in America at some point in your pathetic life.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:34 pmAnd you think the gummint can handle a healthcare program?
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
We are talking about health insurance not health care.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:35 pmI suppose Kenny the Idiot Troll wishes we could privatize water & public works departments too. That way mega corporations can charge high prices for water, like the oil companies do with oil. Don’t have the money for a drink of water…..dehydrate and die quickly motherphucker!
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:35 pmRepiggie trolls like Kenneth just serve to solidify our feelings about health care reform.
That moron thinks that the private sector will police itself, and stop with the “pre-existing condition” crap.
There’s a sucker born every minute, as the saying goes.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:35 pmOh, wait, me bad, the problem is that the private sector already runs these politicians thru campaign dollars.
Do you think Federal Reserve Notes, which are just IOUs [promissory notes] which have no soul, no body and were born by a printing press, should have voting power Kenneth?
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:38 pmKenneth says
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
No they are not educated in my local. Less than 50% graduation rate in the black community. Ha! Look what throwing money at education has done for this group; Failure!
And you think the gummint can handle a healthcare program? What a joke!
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I don’t know where you live, but I find it fascinating that the black community in your area attends federally funded and and administrated public schools. I never knew there was such a thing. In my state (North Carolina), we get some federal money, but the administration and most of the funding of the public schools (what generally determines if they’re good or bad) is handled by the state and county. The one federal dictum that fouls everything up is the No Child Left Behind Act — brought to us by the GOP. I agree with you that contributes to failure.
But instead of comparing local school districts with a federal health program, why not compare a federal health program with a federal health program? If you believe a health program administered by the federal government program can lead to nothing but failure, then you must believe that Medicare has failed. And if that’s the case, why are so few seniors willing to give it up?
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:38 pmThe military, government health care, trains many doctors and nurses and other medical personnel, Kenneh, that do go into the private medical practice after they leave the military.
These people were trained by tax dollars. The health insurance industry doesnt train them.
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And I would be very very leery of say, Halliburton, training and operating a health care facility. You would probably end up being electrocuted by a bed pan.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:43 pmP.D. says
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
It seems as if the Repug tent is getting smaller and smaller. Pretty soon, it will be just old white dudes.
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It won’t be 100% old white dudes — there will still be some white women, but only if they are considered “hot” by the old white dudes. And, of course, there will be a couple of non-white tokens like Alan Keyes they can parade out every so often.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:43 pmStowe is a RINO [Republican In Name Only] -Meister Dook
Wow, Meister Dook thinks he leads the republican party and who can and cannot be a ‘republican’ Maybe she thinks your a RINO.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:45 pmMr.Duke says:
@60. Stowe is a RINO
Fine, we could use more like her and less like YOU.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:45 pmAnd I would be very very leery of say, Halliburton, training and operating a health care facility. You would probably end up being electrocuted by a bed pan.
I forgot to add billed 10x the going medical rates and then thru private arbitrage refused to take them to court and sue them.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:46 pmKenny-boy sez:
I have gummint health-care, it’s called Veterans Health Administration and it works fairly well for me.
You a such a moroon.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:47 pmKenneh: Screw the constitution let AIG run the country.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:52 pmPrivatizing public services is part of the platform of the republican candidate for mayor in my city, Uncle Fester Lurks. Of course, he also owns and operates an oil company, and is on the board of the dam authority here, that has control of some of our biggest lakes and power plants.
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Kenneh: We need to kick all people who dont think jes like me out of the party. Majority rule must be defeated in a democratic republic!!!
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:57 pmSo Kenneh, do you think that a democratic republic should be run, basically, by a small percentage [The FIRE sector] of this country?
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:58 pmReich-winger teabagging hicks answer to everything is “privatize it!” That “logic” brought us fleecing and rape by KBR, Xi murderers, and a medical insurance monopoly…to name a few.
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Kenneth says: Senator Snowe is a RINO and needs to be replaced with a stronger Conservative.
But didnt conservatives [I would like to see your definition of that word’ elect Snowe?
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 pmI am from Minnesota and am beginning to become almost as embarrassed about Timmah Pawlenty as I am about Bat-sh1t Crazy Shelley Bachmann. Sad. Really sad.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 pmI concur! I hope the teabagging GOPigs continue to kick/run out moderates and those who dissent. You terrorist hicks will be completely extinct in a decade. Amen!
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 pmThose who thought Pawlenty was a reasonable repug should have their eyes opened by now — he is a political opportunist.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:01 pmI too have VA benefits and right now they are really jacking me around. Long story. -Kenneh
Well, stop using them then and see how far you get walking into an insurance office and demanding free health care.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:01 pmKenneth: “People in Washington just gum it up. Let the private sector reign.”
Ken, have you been on another planet for the last couple of years? Maybe you missed it but the private sector, fresh from a new round of deregulation in the late 90’s and early 00’s, almost just sent us reeling into another great depression. If you were on Uranus or Mars for the last couple of years you might have missed it.
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If we were fighting war, today, for our independence from an aristocratic bunch of imperialists Kenneh would, in all probability, join the Tories who think he should go eat cake.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:03 pmKenneth says:
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So much for efficiency and service in a Gummint run program.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm
You’re still alive , aren’t you ?
Talk to surviving family members who have lost loved ones because they were dropped by their insurance companies and then talk , jackass…..
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:04 pmKenneth, the thing for you to do, out of principle of course, is to refuse your VA care and go to the private market for your health insurance. That’s what you advocate right? I’m sure someone as reasonable as you wouldn’t advocate private insurance for everyone when you are taking government-administered care. That certainly wouldn’t be reasonable. So, if they’re “jacking you around,” just drop them and go to the much more efficient private system. Let us know in a couple of months how that worked out, ok?
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:04 pmWell X, certainly not by the Far Right or the real Left, Left, Left whacko progressives like visit this site.
I didnt ask you that. I asked if you think a majority rule is better than a democratic majority rule?
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 pmThe far reich is all that remains in the GOPigs, you dolt.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 pmAhem, I meant “If you think a * minority rule is better…” [Me so bad]
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 pmKenneth says:
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Xisithrus says:
So Kenneh, do you think that a democratic republic should be run, basically, by a small percentage [The FIRE sector] of this country?
Well X, certainly not by the Far Right or the real Left, Left, Left whacko progressives like visit this site.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Bet ya’ I’m far more productive and capable at my profession than you are at yours , right-wing tool……
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Kenneth says: We need Hitler to run things.
Hitler not only busted up unions he lowered the wages for people like you and had them work more hours then he went went and got his country destroyed by starting wars.
But now I see your just, of many, another parody.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:11 pmKenneth says:
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We need Hitler to run things.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 pmRegardless of whether or not you’re spouting this garbage to make a point, this is why you jack-offs should never be allowed any form of governmental power again. The Reich would rise again, NAZI bastards.
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missmolly says:
It won’t be 100% old white dudes — there will still be some white women, but only if they are considered “hot” by the old white dudes. And, of course, there will be a couple of non-white tokens like Alan Keyes they can parade out every so often.
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And you know what’s ever weirder? THIS…
You go look at the RNC’s official website… and there’s a never ending loop of smiling women and blacks at the top… certainly makes it seem like the GOOP is oh so inclusive…
At the very same time they were running THIS on Facebook and voting NO on THIS…
Good Lord… it must SUCK to be a GOOPer these days…
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 pmKenneth says: Halliburton could do a much better job with healthcare than the gummint.
Yeh, if your into electroshock therapy, tainted water and unedible food and held hostage for tax dollars, sick or not.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 pmKenneth says:
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Hitler pulled germany out of a depression just like bush was going to.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Bush put us into a depression, you numbskull ….
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:15 pmKenneth says: Hitler pulled germany out of a depression just like bush was going to.
Umm, Kenneh, Bush started TWO, count them TWO wars of choice and we still slid into a recession.
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You’re embarrassing yourself, Kenny.
Please… carry on.
I’m SURE you’re convincing the undecided which side of the fight to join.
Please carry on.
Give him some room, folks. He’s doing our job for us, and we couldn’t possibly be as persuasive as he us. You go, Kenny!
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:16 pmKenneth says:
Uncle Ho,
I too have VA benefits and right now they are really jacking me around. Long story. Delays! Delays! Delays! Met another veteran at a recent town hall meeting who is refused services by the VA. So much for efficiency and service in a Gummint run program.
Because a private insurance company would never delay you, jack you around, or deny service, right?
You really do live in a tiny bubble separated from the real world.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:16 pm@95. Yeah, he also launched a multi-front war, just like Bush did. He ruined a nation, much like Bush very nearly did. And if memory served, he blew his own head off rather than stand up and take the consequences, much like what Bush would probably do if this country ever pushed for a war crimes tribunal. GTFO you stupid twat.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:17 pmDon’t argue with him.
Let Kenny go on and on and on.
So… you were expounding, Kenny?
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:17 pmKenneth says: bush should have declared martial law like we thought he was going to do to keep America from falling into the hands of commies.
That would have destroyed the economy and what you are promoting is rule by a King with his exclusionary communal cronys.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:19 pmMy post got lost in space at about 1:08pm.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:19 pmAnyone else experiencing this?
‘Living With Less in the Land of Pawlenty’
I had a long talk with my State Senator 2 weeks ago.
He recalled how Pawlenty will get up on a podium & make promises. Afterward, as Timmeh walks down the hallway, he was overheard saying, ‘I’m not going to do anything I just told them’.
This is the Mullet Man who would be King…
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:22 pmAnd you think the gummint can handle a healthcare program? What a joke!
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November 3rd, 2009 at 1:23 pmKenneth why do you think the “gummint” can handle protecting you from freedom haters that hate your freedom? Are you one of those selectively outraged individuals?
I think Kenneth has been namejacked, although it’s not clear that he has noticed.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:24 pmKenny-boy sez:
Did you ever consider that your health care might improve if you weren’t such a first-class shit?
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 pmUncle Ho (110), that’s exactly what I was thinking. It’s also interesting that Kenny-boy belittled the education of people in his local (sic). Local what? Or did he mean locale?
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:33 pmPLC;
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:37 pmmethinks Kenny-boy went off the deep-end with his latest rants. Send for the boys in their clean white coats with their butterfly nets, a nice strait-jacket, and padded cell for the schmuck.
This is going to be interesting to watch because Pawlenty is trying to pick up votes with the far right. If he moves to the center, he will lose those votes. Eventually, he will have to take a stand on the purging of moderates in the party. It is a no win situation, because either way he will lose support.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:42 pmUncle Ho, the “Republican crazy” makes H1N1 seem pretty benign and limited in comparison.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:42 pmOMG
I am reading Ken’s comments — what a nut case. He thinks Hitler was smart. He doesn’t like his free health care. He thinks Halliburton is good. He thinks Bush was going to save the economy that he nearly destroyed.
What time zone does he live — it is surely too early to be that drunk!
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:53 pmKenny-boy;
BTW- we did have a Hitler wannabe running the country, from 2001-2009, the would-be fuhrer’s name was George W. Bush.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:53 pmRemember, he was the self-proclaimed “deciderer”.
Kenneth: “Ninerfan,
You keep taxing the people who provide the jobs in this country and sooner or later there will be no income for the gummint to take and you will see a real depression. You can only go to the well so often before it dries up.
Packerfan”
HOW ‘BOUT THAT NUMBER 4, PACKERFAN?! ISN’T HE JUST FANTASTIC?! You wouldn’t believe how disappointing it was for him to beat the Niners with 10 seconds left. Oh well, that’s a Hall-of-Famer for ya. Oh right, you would believe – he’s torn your heart out twice already this season. Sucks to be you.
Now, to your ridiculous non-point – raising the top marginal rate would make it 38.5%, the lowest top marginal rate in the world. During the 50’s, the top marginal rate was 91%; 60’s – 75%. Clinton raised it by 3 points to 38%. During all of those decades, job creation was better than during the Bush era. So, what the hell are you talking about exactly?
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:02 pmAnd, again Kenneth, if you advocate free market health care solutions, getting your health care from the VA is pure hypocrisy. Stand by your values, man. Refuse the VA and get into the private insurance market…. or shut up.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:03 pmKenneth: “bush should have declared martial law like we thought he was going to do to keep America from falling into the hands of commies.”
Death threats on the President are 400 times higher than normal. To keep the country out of the hands of those who actually support our enemies from the last World War, maybe Obama should declare martial law. What do you think, Hitler lover?
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:06 pmLadies and Gentleman, I think the Hitler=Bush comparison has rendered Kenny unable contribute anymore lunacy except as a VDT.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:09 pmKenneth says:
Uncle Ho,
I too have VA benefits and right now they are really jacking me around. Long story. Delays! Delays! Delays! Met another veteran at a recent town hall meeting who is refused services by the VA. So much for efficiency and service in a Gummint run program.
Do a little research on how many times the gopee voted against veteran’s funding that would have made the VA more efficient. I, too, have experience with VA benefits – 40 years ago!! Not much has changed, thanks to republicans.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:11 pmKenneth, the neonazi traitor: “Hitler pulled germany out of a depression just like bush was going to.”
Hey, stupid. FDR was able to do that without slave labor from military conquest. His one mistake was the only Hitler-like thing he ever did – forced internment of Japanese Americans. But, these are historical facts. I know you are more moved by “foolish rules from ancient date, designed to make you feel great while you bend, fold and mutilate those unbelievers from the neighboring state.” Just like Hitler. He was a very good Catholic – or at least he claimed to be.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:20 pmKenneth says: Halliburton could do a much better job with healthcare than the gummint.
The only thing that they would do better is unfortunately gang-rape and war crimes.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 pmThe VA runs at about a 5% overhead. “Kenneth, the Neonazi traitor” would prefer the private insurance method with it’s 15 to 30% overheads because Ken wants to make sure corporate middle-men take their cuts at our expense.
But, strangely, “Kenneth, the Neonazi traitor” feels that his position is for everyone else, but not him. He uses the services of the VA. Ken, why don’t you live your convictions. If it’s good enough for the rest of us, it’s good enough for you. Refuse that socialist system and get into the free-market soup with the rest of us. I’m sure you’ll just loooovvve it!
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:24 pmKenneth says:
Ninerfan,
You keep taxing the people who provide the jobs in this country and sooner or later there will be no income for the gummint to take and you will see a real depression. You can only go to the well so often before it dries up.
Packerfan
Right, we reduced their rates and STILL had job losses…
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:25 pmMaybe this is why “Kenneth, the Neonazi Traitor” likes Hitler so much:
“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exposed.”
—Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922, published in My New Order
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:28 pmHey Neonazi Packerfan, how ’bout that number four! Isn’t he just adorable?!
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:29 pmNinerFan says:
Hey Neonazi Packerfan, how ’bout that number four! Isn’t he just adorable?!
That was very gracious of you to applaud #4 beating the ‘9ers. It was also a great game by both teams.
I didn’t know Kenneth was a Packer fan, though, but it figures.
Kenny, would you like some whine with your cheese? You Packerbackers were truly obnoxious Sunday. Get over it. Ted Thompson is the problem, not Brett Favre.
My favorite sign at that game: ‘We’ll never forget you, Brent!’
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:43 pmZimzone: “That was very gracious of you to applaud #4 beating the ‘9ers. It was also a great game by both teams.”
Thank you. It WAS a great game and you’ve got to give it up for the guy when he does something as spectacular as that. How many times did I see Montana or Young do that to other teams?
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:01 pmMaine Votes most democratic on issues. The only reason we have republican senators is because they are moderates. If they decided to go hardcore conservative they would be voted out so fast. The republican party lost a ton of seats because they refuse to listen to the people. Now they are criticizing the republicans who actually won because of their connection to their constituents. Everyone said republicans are going to eat each other and that process is in full effect now.
The republican party is supposed to keep the democrats in check. Which they have totally failed at. They refuse to do their job and instead focus on lies and non-issues like birthers the death panels. Snowe is one of only a few that still lives in reality.
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:10 pmKenneth,
If I believed in God, I think I might pray for your soul. But, since I don’t, you’re on your own.
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:12 pmAaronQ: “Snowe is one of only a few that still lives in reality.”
If you don’t get universal healthcare with a legitimate public option, you can thank Snowe.
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:35 pmHurrah for the Donner Party! Better watch out, Olympia Snowe – YOU’RE ON THE MENU!!!
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:54 pmI have Pawlenty as governor and remember this important fact, “he never received more than 50% of the vote in MN as governor”, if were not for third party candidates he would NOT be governor.
He is leaving our state in the worst shape it’s ever been because he took the “no new taxes” pledge.
November 3rd, 2009 at 4:44 pmPawlenty was an idiot before he was a moron.
November 3rd, 2009 at 7:55 pm“you can’t get endorsed by ACORN” so all ACORN needs to do is endorse vulnerable Republicans and get them to be abandoned by their party.
Please sir, may I have some more!
November 3rd, 2009 at 9:32 pm#89, 90, 92, 95 & 100.
Somebody did highjack my login name.
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:07 pmKenneth
It looks like you were namejacked you are still a moron.
November 4th, 2009 at 3:48 am