Conservatives Mock 72-Hour Window That They Requested To Review Health Care Reform Legislation
Conservatives Mock 72-Hour Window That They Requested To Review Health Care Reform Legislation
In September, Rep. Greg Walden (R-OR) organized a discharge petition in order to force a vote on a resolution that would “require that legislation and conference reports be available on the Internet for 72-hours before consideration by the House.” “It’s just common sense: Americans should be allowed to read the text of major bills before Congress votes on them,” said House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH).
The House Democratic leadership eventually agreed to post health care legislation online for 72-hours before bringing it up for a vote. But once they got what they wanted, conservatives started to complain that 72-hours wasn’t enough. “They are only giving you 72-hours to read it,” said Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) on Glenn Beck’s radio show today. “So they obviously are embarrassed of their own bill.”
On WorldNetDaily’s radio show today, Rep. John Linder (R-GA) claimed that Democrats were only including the 72-hour waiting period because they needed more time to twist arms for votes:
LINDER: I would not be surprised if they sent us home Friday and bring us back a week or so later to see if they can get the votes because I do not believe they have the votes now.
HOST: What makes you think that?
LINDER: If they had the votes, they’d have voted on it already. They would not have worried about the 72-hours. That 72-hours is for them to beat up their own members, not for the public to read the bill. If they had those votes, they’d cram it down now and they clearly do not.
Listen here:
Despite their current complaints about the 72-hour time period, both Bachmann and Linder signed the discharge petition seeking the 72-hours.
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Repugs are so predictable and redundant.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:16 pmIt’s always the same with them — first complain about something, get a result, and then complain again.
When will the Democrats learn — the next time repugs complain, tell them to go Cheney theselves.
Choose one of the following;
A) We want 72 hours.
B) We don’t care if there’s 72 hours.
C) You Democrats forced 72 hours.
D) You Democrats gotta have 72 hours to whip your members.
“All of the above” is available only to Republipimp members who’ve neglected their meds today. I smell a certain giddiness in the air; probably just Batshit Shelley gargling patchouli oil again…
November 4th, 2009 at 5:20 pmThe Republicans would complain about this if they were given 72 YEARS to mull it over.
It’s time to stand up to the obstructionists and forge ahead — knocking them down if need be.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:20 pm“So they obviously are embarrassed of their own bill.”
Exactly what language is this that Ms. Bachmann (R-Batshittia) is speaking? She obviously was absent in 4th grade when they taught proper use of prepositions…
November 4th, 2009 at 5:20 pmCmon,
These Bills will be presented to the house and Senate…and Amendments will be voted on..
and they they will undergo reconcilliation…and be voted on again…
plenty of time to “read the Bills”….except some parts are hardly in English.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:20 pmI think want the Republicans really wanted was for the entire 1,900 page bill to be posted on Twitter.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:21 pmTwisting arms for votes? Calling Tom Delay!!!
Keeping votes open past time? Calling Republicans!
Projecting much? Sheesh, these Repubs have a short memory.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:23 pmOr how about having the entire bill included in the plot of the most favorite right wing show, “24″?
November 4th, 2009 at 5:23 pmOne republican lawmaker said (paraphrased), “when your captain’s crazy, you jump ship.”
November 4th, 2009 at 5:24 pmYes, children we know you want 72 weeks to dither over this.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:24 pmYou still have to go to bed at 8:30 PM…
It doesn’t matter whenever you give pugs what they want because they are NEVER SATISFIED with anything even when it is something they ‘setup‘. Nothing pleases them so progressives need to quit trying to please them by telling them to STFU!
November 4th, 2009 at 5:25 pmOfficials are telling The Associated Press that AARP–the seniors’ lobby–will endorse the health care overhaul bill that House Democrats are preparing to take to the floor.
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We’re dealing with incorrigible children.
Spoiled brats.
Poor sports.
Sore losers.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:27 pmThis was a farce from the start; these right-wingers can’t be intelligent enough to be able to read, c’mon.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:29 pmOh, well done Matt Corley for this exemplary post that is so illustrative of the mendacity and bankruptcy of both the GOP and it’s enabling media flunkies.
I think Matt deserves an award for his sharp eyes and ears. May I suggest it take the form of a “Golden Petard”—as-in “hung by his own petard” ?
It could be a monthly award.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:29 pmBachmann and most of the repug knuckle draggers have a reading comprehension of a grape nut so what would it matter if they were given an eternity to read it. Hey repugs, if you were gonna enter heaven, would you stop God and demand to see the rules of heaven before entering…..thought so.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:30 pmWhat difference does it make how many hours Bachmann’s staff spends with the bill? She’s never going to agree to ANYTHING with a “D” attached to it.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:30 pmmlknez says: …
November 4th, 2009 at 5:32 pmThen write your congressperson and ask them to email it to you.
Michelle Bachmann! Is that you secretly voting me down? You little minx! :D
November 4th, 2009 at 5:32 pmWho is the chickendung troll voting down, man up for once in your life.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:32 pm“they are embarassed of their own bill.”
November 4th, 2009 at 5:33 pmI hate when people interchange words like “embarassed” and “ashamed” and think they take the same prepositions. Bachman, certainly not the shining light of her party, shows her lack of intelligence, but not just in terms of English grammar but with the actual facts of this bill’s conception. Perhaps SHE is ashamed of her inability to sit down with this bill and read it in three days. Clueless in Minnesota.
Hasn’t she slit her wrists yet?
November 4th, 2009 at 5:33 pmWho is the chickendung troll voting down, man up for once in your life.
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November 4th, 2009 at 5:34 pmNot bloody likely. Still the pussy’s votes have no legs…
mlknez says: 72 hours would be plenty for a 200 page concise bill. Nobody would complain about that. The fact that it is 1990 pages with references all over the place including to documents outside of the 1990 pages makes 72 hours not enough. I would like more time to be able to understand all of the salient points to consider.
mlknez,
1) are you saying that you could understand the entire bill if given enough time to read every single piece of it including all its references?
2) are you saying that the bill ( or any other bill for that matter) should be presented as a summary of immediately relevant points in plain English that anyone can basically understand given a few hours to read it?
3) Are you proposing that, as the bill isn’t in a 200 page format, the rest of the nation needs to wait until you personally have dully digested the bill as it is and given it your approvall/disapproval?
4) all of tha baive?
November 4th, 2009 at 5:41 pm5) some of th above)
6) you’d like to rephrase or expand /clarify your comment?
Sorry about Greg Walden. He’s the only Republican congress critter in the state. And we can’t get rid of him because he represents Eastern Oregon which is more like Idaho than Oregon.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:47 pmHi vote down pussy. Can I ask what you think you gain? Why not just post your thoughts?
November 4th, 2009 at 5:48 pmAnd remember when they wanted longer so they could stall till after the recess – and whip up the screamers to attend town hall meetings ?
November 4th, 2009 at 5:50 pmCaption contest:
So what’s the problem here? I just wanted to give Georgie some BatSh!t Skull!
November 4th, 2009 at 5:52 pmSeventy-two hours is plenty of time. Especially since virtually every incarnation of the bill during the design process, and every proposed amendment manages to find its way to the internet now. There has been absolutely no shortage of time for us to dissect, parse, and argue over every little detail while Congress does the same thing.
I am generally not in favor of mandating “waiting periods” for legislation. The lawmaking process is already about as efficient as sucking a salami through a straw. Requiring that wheels come to a grinding halt for every piece of legislation so the public can look at it and give their approval just slows everything down further.
We should be able to trust the people we elect to make decisions for us. And if we can’t trust them, we need to elect people we DO trust.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:54 pm6 hours would be plenty for a 200-page concise bill.
If Republicans figured 72 hours wasn’t enough time, they should have asked for however much time their lobbyists needed.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:54 pm#13– A copy of the entire bill is online, and according to Rachel Maddow, no reading is required, only listening.
November 4th, 2009 at 6:00 pmPsst! It’s on audio!
Stop complaining, ConservaSens.
You asked for a 72-hour window.
Dems gave you a 72-hour window.
Now you complain that the 72 hours aren’t enough AND that the 72 hours are TOO much.
You know what that makes you?
LAWYERS.
And we know how popular they are.
November 4th, 2009 at 6:04 pmDoes Bachmann need more time
November 4th, 2009 at 6:06 pmso she can twitter the entire text of the Health Care bill,
or just time enough to to spin it to her disliking?
#33 Purple State,
Q: What do you call driving a 1000 lawyers into the sea?
A: A good start.
November 4th, 2009 at 6:07 pmTypically a bill of this size (and this ain’t the first) is divided up among different staff members and then they report back on their section to the sitting member they work for.
November 4th, 2009 at 6:12 pmThis from the party that spawned Joe “You Lie” Wilson, who had to look up the word “dithering” in a dictionary. If you gave these morons 72 years, they still couldn’t read a bill because they would have to spend all of their time looking up words that have more than one syllable.
How can we keep electing morons to congress like the ones we have now?
November 4th, 2009 at 6:14 pmShe is one skinney ass ugly btch.
November 4th, 2009 at 6:15 pmThe sad fact is that none of the GOoPers have any intention of reading anything sponsored by Democrats. And the bits they do read always seem to say the exact opposite of what they claim.
November 4th, 2009 at 6:15 pmDid I hear there will be a House vote on health care on Sturday?
November 4th, 2009 at 6:16 pmIt’s also fair to note that the bill needs to be this long in order to address every paranoid, xenophobic, conspiracy theory that’s thrown at it.
November 4th, 2009 at 6:20 pmYou repugs keep asking for more time. You losers had eight years with bush,look how fcked up our country is because of the repugs and bush. Sorry, you are out of time. The adults are in charge of the clock now. STFU, and watch our country prosper.
November 4th, 2009 at 6:21 pmI saw a segment last night, I think on CNN,
November 4th, 2009 at 6:21 pm(I was eating, and kind of trying to ignore it)
making a tally of Obama’s kept and broken promises during his first “year”
(I guess nine months is a year in 21st century talking head time).
One of his broken promises, they said, was signing a bill into law within less than five days. They only mentioned two of 14 supposedly broken promises, and something like 54 kept, out of 500.
This should keep the trolls occupied for a while, anyway.
mlknez says:
The fact that it is 1990 pages with references all over the place including to documents outside of the 1990 pages makes 72 hours not enough.
Might as well go all the way and ask for a version with pop-up figures and color-by-numbers drawings.
November 4th, 2009 at 6:57 pmShorter Linder: They arent locksteppers like the party of no.
November 4th, 2009 at 7:04 pm~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
27 states have reduced health benefits for low-income children and families;
25 states are cutting aid to K-12 schools and other educational programs;
34 states have cut assistance to state colleges and universities;
26 states have instituted hiring freezes;
13 states have announced layoffs; and
22 states have reduced state workers’ wages.
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in the last administration… exactly how long was insisted upon before the passing of key legislation?
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I, like the rest of you.. of course remember that 72 hour period the public got to pour over the patriot act ..
..wait..what’s that? (listening to pretend ear piece)
oh.. so they..still haven’t put the patriot act online? aha.
November 4th, 2009 at 7:07 pm@ 43. okie dokie says: I saw a segment last night, I think on CNN, (I was eating, and kind of trying to ignore it) making a tally of Obama’s kept and broken promises during his first “year” (I guess nine months is a year in 21st century talking head time). One of his broken promises, they said … This should keep the trolls occupied for a while, anyway. November 4th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Nah, you’re talking real high quality attention deficit disorder with our trolls; give them a minute or two trying to understand two adjacent word in a sentence, they get bored and wander off to jack someone else’s thread. Try to give them an example of broken promises, and if the first one isn’t their favorite pseudo-promise from Fux Noise, off they go. The only thing they seem to really go for is abuse. They seem to like EugeneD; suits their little masochistic souls to a tee to have Eugene dump on them.
November 4th, 2009 at 7:08 pmThere weren’t enough pictures and too many big words for the Republicans.
They would have to look up in the dictionary every third word to see what it means.
Bachmann = skank
Beckerhead = Loony toon
Linder = Ignorant liar
November 4th, 2009 at 7:11 pmlux says:
“…oh.. so they..still haven’t put the patriot act online? aha.”
To the best of my recollection, the so-called Patriot Act was over 6,000 pages, trotted out within a couple of weeks of 9/11, and passed virtually overnight.
November 4th, 2009 at 7:13 pmNo one read it except for Dennis Kucinich.
caption…
“Who needs reading?”
November 4th, 2009 at 7:21 pmcaption
“Come on guys wouldn’t you rather f uck me than that b itch from Alaska. I mean like come on you pasty old white dudes”
November 4th, 2009 at 7:24 pmI think the lurker VDT has a thing for MsSmelley…
November 4th, 2009 at 7:36 pmHe probably has this photo blown up to poster size in his bathroom.
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May I suggest Coulter, Malkin, Palin, and Bachmann masks. Maybe Maggie Thatcher as well. The right’s women are so nasty….
November 4th, 2009 at 7:43 pm53, Let’s get a plan that really works. How about all the men wear a sawyer mask?
November 4th, 2009 at 7:43 pmMay I suggest Coulter, Malkin, Palin, and Bachmann masks. Maybe Maggie Thatcher as well. The right’s women are so nasty….
November 4th, 2009 at 7:43 pm Vote Up | Vote Down | (-1
November 4th, 2009 at 7:44 pm—-
So which one is the one that does it for you weirdo?|
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Of course there’s always sawyer and his cocktail weenie condoms. One rib for her pleasure. Larry Craig always carries one in his wallet.
November 4th, 2009 at 7:47 pmWhy would anyone want to put a service like Planned parenthood out of business?
November 4th, 2009 at 7:48 pmsawyer says:
lol, this is very entertaining.
Stick around for the eleven o’clock show. It gets a little blue.
November 4th, 2009 at 7:49 pm59, Sawyer and his cousin. Any other dumb questions?
November 4th, 2009 at 7:51 pmI’ll dither on it awhile.
November 4th, 2009 at 7:52 pmIs that like “shaking off the devil”?
November 4th, 2009 at 7:54 pmNow we know what you do for a living.
November 4th, 2009 at 7:54 pmActually I work for a Nuclear Utility, the greenest form of power in the world.
November 4th, 2009 at 8:02 pmLinder:If they had those votes, they’d cram it down now and they clearly do not.
This is projection..again.. not only do they not understand the concept of being true to your word.. it also is truly beyond republicans this idea of bipartisanship – they truly don’t believe that anyone would actually try to reach a consensus… because they never would..
see also: Republican foreign policy
November 4th, 2009 at 8:03 pm65, That’s why you have the greenest spots in the world on your lungs.
November 4th, 2009 at 8:14 pmOne word, speeled out in caps, bold so it’s easy to read…..
S T U P I D !!!
November 4th, 2009 at 8:28 pmI hear your pain, Olby Sucks. To have one less state for you and Keith to choose for getting hitched…oh, how it must wound your tender heart!
There’s still Iowa!
November 4th, 2009 at 8:30 pmFirst thread of the day, stupid troll. And you are welcome to leave any time the content becomes offensive so I don’t think you can make a case for any particular “shit” being “forced” on anyone.
November 4th, 2009 at 8:31 pmI have a feeling that this particular stupid troll thinks he’s being oppressed because it’s illegal for he and the rest of the congregation to burn down the homes of witches, homosexuals, Muslims, assorted scary brown people, and atheists.
November 4th, 2009 at 8:35 pmIs tp avoiding the gay marriage getting shot down, again? Stop trying to force this $hit on us!
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November 4th, 2009 at 8:49 pmHave you extrapolated the demographics on this? Every journey starts with… Today’s 53 is tomorrows 49….
Who’s forcing you to get married to someone in your own gender? You’re a f**king idiot.
November 4th, 2009 at 8:55 pm” I mean I love her like a sister and all but still you guys like totally think I am hotter right?”
November 4th, 2009 at 8:55 pmPerhaps they mean:
If pro is the opposite of con, what is the opposite of progress?
November 4th, 2009 at 9:01 pmNuclear power is NOT the greenest form of power in the world. Those spent fuel rods aren’t exactly good for the environment.
Maybe you don’t define green power the same way I do. Green power has to be renewable and non-polluting. Nuclear power plants are not renewable and are polluting.
November 4th, 2009 at 9:35 pmAwwwwww. The poor babies read reeeeeeeeeeeeally slowly.
Give it up, Donner Party – we’re onto you!!
November 4th, 2009 at 10:00 pmMore whining from the party of Victims…call the WAAAHHHHHHMBULENCE…
November 5th, 2009 at 12:23 amHyperinflation says:
Is tp avoiding the gay marriage getting shot down, again? Stop trying to force this $hit on us!
Someone is trying to force you to “gay marry” someone? LOL! I’m pretty sure you right wing extremists are trying to force gay people to stay in the closet or marry people of the wrong gender for them. Lunatic project much religious freak? LOL!
November 5th, 2009 at 1:50 amsawyer says:
“Actually I work for a Nuclear Utility…”
The one in Sawyer on Lake Michigan?
November 5th, 2009 at 9:02 amI thought they shut that one down, or are going to.
I’ll check it out.
See ya…
There are a great many childish remarks here.
I have access to a pdf file on that 1990 page document. When you get done reading it, then they should vote on it. Personally, I think a document that is going to cost a billion dollars a page and kill one job for every word should be considered more carefully than the typical one page bill.
http://theprogressivecapitalist.blogspot.com/
USPS/IRS Health Care
November 5th, 2009 at 10:40 amIf health care is the problem, insurance is not the cause and government is not the answer.
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Of those “50 million,” that lack insurance there were 45,000 who died without health care.
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WITH health care, 98,000 died FROM health care because of malpractice.
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The question is do we want to trust that largest corporation in the world, the U.S. Government. Do not expect house calls anytime soon.
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We have seen how well the government delivers on its promises and its bureaucracies pursue the money without giving us benefits on so many levels.
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Imagine another 111 bureacracies that only ultimately must listen to the Secretary of the Treasury – another “service” of which is the IRS.
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http://theprogressivecapitalist.blogspot.com/2009/10/affordable-health-care-for-america-act.html
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That blog of mine above has several .pdf connections (HR. 3962 and two summaries, a few videos, and page references for new taxes and other mandates).
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If you cannot use the link, google “Progressive Capitalist H.R. 3962.”
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If you believe the promises of this bill, you have to deal with the lie that it fosters competition with a government option called the “Public Option” and establishes the government as a monopoly making its own rules. Don’t worry. You’ll run out of “rich” soon enough.
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We have at least a $12 trillion economy of which at least $1.8 trillion is spent on health care.
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If you read the bill, there are plenty of opportunities to soak the middle class, if you do not mind the 1.6 million made jobless.
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REPUBLICAN Affordable Health Care For America Act
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MAKING HEALTH Care Affordable For EVERY AmeriCAN
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http://thehill.com/images/stories/whitepapers/pdf/ainsfloor_01_xml.pdf
I do not know about Linder, but alas, I know far too much about Bachmann. She is a Republican ditz that our party could well do without. Amazing that she is in a constant dither about things and that she simply changes positions when called out about her inconsistency. Of course, perhaps Bachmann is truly not up to understanding a bill in the usual alloted time. I do not doubt the entire thing is too complicated for her to get in such a short time. However, She needs to whip up her reading skills a bit, maybe. OR, she is just blabbing so she can complain. Both ways, she looks grossly incompetent to me, a life long Republican.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:17 pm